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The Tumbler? Oh, The Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day wouldn’t be interested in that…
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
This year sees Christopher Nolan completing his three movie arc with The Dark Knight Rises. I really liked Batman Begins, but it was The Dark Knight that really stole my heart. However we couldn’t have gotten to The Dark Knight without the foundation set up by Batman Begins and what a foundation it is.
The casting is brilliant, the real-world focus helps ground a rather silly concept and the scope is just plain epic. Today’s image shows how Nolan used model work to help achieve that epicness.
Instead of relying on CG for a simple shot of the Tumbler racing along they used a nice bigature to keep that real-world grounding I love so much. Check it out and click to enlargen!
If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at quint@aintitcool.com.
Here’s looking at you, tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes pic.
-Eric Vespe
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...at least according to Harry.
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Great pic!
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Jan 22, 2012 5:05:01 PM CST
It was a model? i thought it was life-size because i remember a BTS video
by killik
where they showed how the VFX team created the tumbler.Or they made both a miniature and a life-size tumbler?
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Actually it gets worse every time you watch it but it still remains a great movie for what it is.
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Jan 22, 2012 5:07:43 PM CST
Still the batmobil from Burton's Batman remains the coolest batmobil.
by killik
i love that car,i wish i had one to drive for real.
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There's so much unnecessary bs in TDK
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I would have my piebald Dachshund drive it around.
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Along with Superman:the movie, they are the best comic book films ever made.
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Huh?
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Jan 22, 2012 5:36:52 PM CST
OOHH, while I'm here, I prefer Katie as Rachel, I thought the other actress played her far too whiny.
by boredbluekoala
And Liam Neeson being revealed as the Villain at Bruce's party was brilliantly done.
Then there's Rutger Hauer, Tom Wilkinson, Rade Serbedzija, and that little kid who went on to be in Game of Thrones (I genuinely thought that we would see him come back in the third film as 'Robin')
Batman Begins is just such great film-making.
Photography
Score
Acting
Story
FX
Can't wait for The Dark Knight Rises. -
Cause this is the one thing in Nolan's realistic world that never made sense to me...there's no armor for the wheels? They're like giant balloons just waiting to get popped.
Or am I thinking about "Joyful Noise?" -
Jan 22, 2012 5:49:26 PM CST
Begins has a better balance between comic-book and gritty ...
by ginge_muppet
Dark Knight is a very well made movie but FUCK the thing is miserable ...
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Yeah, a billionaire putting on a suit to look like a bat in order to scare criminals is a silly concept. It works bc the actors/director/crew take it seriously, and find pretty good ways to ground it in reality, for the most part anyways
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With Aaron PAul from Breaking Bad as Terry and Clint Eastwood as Bruce. I know, I know but I can dream.
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That fat mouth chin and the voice?
You know it's true Bat fans. -
I feel the plot machinery grinding, grinding, grinding away.
Ledger was great, but the movie was WAY overplotted. -
Jan 22, 2012 6:03:24 PM CST
The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers are two completely different types of movies.
by tarijeno
Can we get that out of the way before the flame war starts?
Nolan is going for a dark, gritty take on a fantasy character while Whedon/Favreau/Johnson/Branagh, etc.... have all gone for fun, action and pulp.
Comparing the two is like comparing chinese food and mexican food. They're both really good (to most people) but.... different. -
...for an R/C tumbler bigature. Thing looks so cool.
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Begins is better than The Dark Knight, but they are BOTH way better than any other Batman movie. And Bale is great as both, an actually believable Wayne, who looks like he could be a spoiled brat, but actually has the physical prowess to be Batman. Keaton, don't make me laugh, he couldn't beat himself up. Nolan rules, fuck anyone who feels otherwise!!!
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Jan 22, 2012 6:20:14 PM CST
It's funny that when Batman Begins first came out it got a lukewarm response...
by nerd rage
but Nolan fanboys now consider it a masterpiece. Did the movie magically get better over the years?
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but the batpod miniature, which i have,will suffice for now.
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Jan 22, 2012 6:21:13 PM CST
I recall seeing a picture of the Tumbler in EW (back when I had no clue they were remaking Batman)
by dahamburglar
and I was gobsmacked. The design was so cool, so believable as a the typeof bat-vehicle you'd expect if Batman were part of real life.I knew ,with that ONE image Nolan was the only one to bring Batman to justice on the screen
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Hardly anything memorable about that holds up to TDK or even Batman (89).
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how so?
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I'd like to know if your TB alias is based on a Pearl Jam song, if so hat's off, if not, never mind...
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Adjusted for inflation Begins is the 2nd lowest grossing live-action Batman movie. That's a lukewarm response.
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GREAT
The Dark Knight
VERY GOOD
Batman Begins
GOOD
Batman Forever
SHIT
Batman
Batman Returns
OMG WHY
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Jan 22, 2012 6:49:35 PM CST
=The design was so cool, so believable as a the typeof bat-vehicle you'd expect if Batman were part of real life.=
by killik
yeah.Because escaping the police or chasing a criminal by destroying with your big,explosive tank half the city which you supposedly protect, is so fucking realistic.
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Jan 22, 2012 6:49:44 PM CST
'Does it come in black?'.....Nolan gave a bit of sorely lacking credability to a naff genre, before Batman Begins we had the utter shit of Batman & Robin...
by drstrangerlove
......Once nolan has finished we'll only have the campy Marvel movies left. Much as i liked the 1st Iron Man movie, all the others are pretty mediocre at best.
I hope The Man of Steel is good, but with Snyder at the helm my hopes aren't too high.
I guess if TDKR makes a billion plus like TDK there is the chance WBros will try and tempt Nolan to make another......Maybe. -
you don't deserve a penis.
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is my favorite Tumbler scene. So fucking boss.
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Yeah, right. Sure.
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Jan 22, 2012 7:56:31 PM CST
Always thought Clint Eastwood would make a better two face than Bruce in The Dark Knight Returns
by stillsberry
or Batman Beyond
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You know it suckas.
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Confirmed.
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And then write a review after not going back to rewatch it?
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Jan 22, 2012 8:03:36 PM CST
So Begins is now being touted as superior to TDK?
by johnfordsmissingeye
I mean, Begins was good, but TDK was like a Michael Mann Batman. And it had the Joker who is without a doubt the most popular Batman villain. I guess this is just more geek revisionism?
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Kilmer was decent, but the villains are awful. Returns is a much more interesting film.
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Jan 22, 2012 8:13:16 PM CST
johnfordsmissingeye: I actually think Forever is worst than B and R
by stillsberry
Forever tries to be so serious but comes short, B and R is camp from the beginning and never strays.
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I prefer Nicholson's psychotic clown (umpteenth time I've said this on AICN..).
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Jan 22, 2012 8:22:14 PM CST
Dont get me wrong TDK is great and all, it just has too many sub plots
by sunwukong86
like the prisoners on the boat, and the chinese mafia, you know
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pieces of garbage in cinematic history. If you think either one is better than Batman Begins I never want to meet you in person.
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... is just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
The movies are better than anything else out there and everyone knows it.
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Jan 22, 2012 9:21:06 PM CST
Nolan is one of the few contemporary filmmakers keeping tradional minature work alive
by nasty in the pasty
Only Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro share his love for old-school "in-camera" special effects.
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During the IMAX screening of Begins that I attended, when Bats hoists Falcone through the sunroof and declares "I'm Batman!" the crowd went absolutely APESHIT. They exploded with a fervor I've seen very few times before.
The only thing at the IMAX screening of Dark Knight that I attended that came even remotely close was the Joker's pencil trick.
So I say, Begins for the win. That movie had the audience by the short hairs in a way that Dark Knight could only dream of having. -
Jan 22, 2012 9:48:06 PM CST
yeah, begins still had a niceism and gotham city
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
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Jan 22, 2012 9:50:47 PM CST
geazz that wss fucked, meant hothic tone to the urban realism...
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
...and an original Gotham City. The city in TDK just looked like Chicago. However, TDK had the best tx ever, Heath Ledger tearing up the scenery so its a wash.
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I dug the shit out of Begins the moment I saw it. So did everyone else. Get over yourself.
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Jan 22, 2012 10:24:08 PM CST
looks like that one part in Batman 1989 where the batmobile is driving furiously towards a noentry sign and it turns out to be a mirage hiding the enterance to the batcave.
by seabiscuits
just reminds me of it is all.
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Nolan spent so much time trying to make Batman believable he forgot to make it iconic or compelling. And the action scenes and dialogue was forgettable too.
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Jan 22, 2012 11:29:54 PM CST
Bless Nolan for bringing back practicle FX to a mass audience.
by cureguy
I hope Ridley Scott continues with practicle FX for Prometheus. I think the rule should be at least 70% practicle-30% or below CG.
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Burn in hell George Lucas.
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and I still actually hold '89 Batman in a higher regard, just for the sheer spectacle and awe of seeing Batman portrayed that way for the first time, but Begins was solid. Even when giving it the least props, you can't deny that it set the stage for some next level shit (TDK). People like nerd rage are being cunts for the sake of being cunts. Hipster nonsense if you ask me.
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Jan 23, 2012 12:01:57 AM CST
I have to agree with Nerd Rage, the Cult of Nolan turned Begins into a "masterpiece" after TDK's trailer was released.
by hank henshaw
I still remember all the complaints people had for Batman Begins: poorly edited and choreographed fight scenes, Scarecrow's ridiculous plan, Batman letting Ra's die, Gordon inside the Tumbler, Katie Holmes...
I'm serious, BB did just a little more money than the turd known as Superman Returns, but Superman Returns made more money worldwide, which is crazy once you think how much more popular Batman is and how really awful Superman Returns was. Batman Begins HAD a lukewarm response from the public, critics liked it tho.
A few years later, TDK trailer releases, and BAM! Batman Begins is the shit.
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If everyone was so ho-hum about Begins, they wouldn't have cared so much about TDK. When Gordon showed the Joker card, it was fucking awesome!!! I loved Begins from the start! I'll put it this way, Begins is a more complete film from start to finish, but my favorite parts are in TDK. Oh, and Batman Returns is a piece of cheesy ass shit!!!!! Burton's first batman is the only one remotely worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Nolan's, because Nolan showed Burton how the Joker should've acted when he fell. He shoulda laughed instead of screamed like a whiny bitch!!!! Nolan owned that shit!!!!! LOCKE815 is right on, Nolan's Batman world is the ONLY Batman world as far as I'm concerned, all you haters can have your shitty Burton films.
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Boring cretin.
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You liked his Batman movies, fine. I didn't, and guess what? That should be fine too. I respect Nolan's dedication to practical effects and his ambition, but his deathly serious approach to the material just doesn't work for me. I can get over that. Hell, I like Insomnia and most of Memento. What I can't get over is being told I'm the idiot for not joining the cult. Get over it kids. Thinking that everything a certain filmmaker touches turns to gold will be a long lonely road for you. Very few have a clean sheet.
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The stunt man who drives the tumbler was an old childhood friend of mine. A guy called George Cottle. He always had better toys than me and it looks like that hasn't changed!
A good though and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. -
delivers the line "Oh, Jim Gordon? He's a friend actually, etc."
I absolutely awful.
Whoever further up mentioned Holmes being the better Rachel had it right. She may have been the weakest link in Begins, but at least she wasn't insufferable. -
Edit button, please.
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Jan 23, 2012 6:18:39 AM CST
I can't wait for Harry's "review" of The Dark Knight Rises.
by knuckleduster
I remember when The Dark Knight was released and so many critics and fans were comparing it to The Godfather Part 2 as one of the greatest sequels ever made (and rightfully so, in my opinion).
Harry "King of Hyperbole" Knowles was obviously late to the party (probably couldn't get into an early screening) and as a result he couldn't be the first to compare the movie to chocolate covered pussy juice or whatever the hell gets him off, so he finally had to taste some of his own medicine and hear other people rave about it. That's probably why his eventual review for it had a very "yeah, it's okay, I guess" tone to it.
Then, of course, when Inception was released he fell asleep in the middle of the movie and famously stated that Nolan had to "dream bigger" (what a wanker).
So, if we want Harry to finally give Nolan a the kind of review his films deserve, we have to do 2 things:
1) Make sure he sees it before everyone else, so he doesn't feel like the fat kid who always gets picked last again. It's obviously very important for him to be the one who knows everything before anyone else does.
2) We have to remember that this guy's got the emotional maturity if a 10 year old. It's not so much the film itself, but the circumstances in which he watches it, that determines his opinion of it. So it's very important that we make sure he isn't sleepy or hungry or grumpy or gassy or in any way prevented by his own fatass anatomy from enjoying this movie. Could be a good idea to send Yoko an e-mail and ask her to make sure he gets some nappy time and uses the potty before the screening.
If it all works out, maybe we can finally get him to give a Nolan movie the kind of "I'm so happy I shat myself" review he gives other movies like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Red Tails, although I doubt it. -
Say what you want about Keaton's physicality, at least you believe he wasn't all there mentally, which Batman isn't. Bale's Batman is like an off duty cop who just happens to dress like a bat to scare criminals. The ballistics scene (which didn't make any sense, BTW) was straight out of a CSI show.
And Two-Face was all wrong yet again. I mean the character wasn't completely ass raped like he was in Batman Forever but he's supposed to have two separate personalities, which one takes over is determined by flipping a coin. That still hasn't been done right.
But overall they're both very good films that are just closer to a Michael Mann crime drama than a comic book. Which is fine but I could see how comic book purists would prefer Burton's films. -
Katie Holmes! What happened with that? What's up with that? Katie Holmes! Katie Holmes! Katie Holmes!
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Jan 23, 2012 8:33:15 AM CST
Remember when everyone hated this design before they saw the movie?
by ultratron
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Jan 23, 2012 8:34:27 AM CST
Remember that the dark knight has the ugliest dog-face girl ever cast for a movie that expensive in all cinema history.
by ultratron
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That was a very reasonable and logical opinion you expressed. Are you sure you're on the right site.
But seriously, I agree. Keaton's Wayne comes off as a brooding loner who really only tolerates people and can't wait until night time to don his costume and scare the shit out of people. And, like you said, he really doesn't seem all there.
I like Nolan's films and I like Burton's. -
Nice jacket
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Or the dumpy girl for that matter. The character was literally the girl next door, just a girl that Wayne happened to grow up with. If she was super hot or super smart, it would fuck with Nolan's realistic take. Yeah, she's a lawyer but how many lawyers have you met? Law school is easier to get into than Lindsey Lohan at the Viper Room. She was just an average girl.
At least they fucking killed her. The girl gets kidnapped in every Batman movie (except Batman and Robin because that turned out to be an edited for content gay porno). But they killed her in TDK, which was pretty unexpected if you weren't spoiled previously. -
Salty humor aside, I try to be civil here, because there are people who actually want to talk about movies among all the 13 year old attention whores.
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Actually Katie Holmes is super hot.Yes she has that cute girl next door look but she can also be very sexy if she wants to be.Just check her in some other movies.
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Is no-one else bothered by the Tumbler "taking out the trash" scene in TDK? Biggest plot hole in either movie. Bats won't kill the Joker if/when he gets the chance and Bats wouldn't kill Ra's al-Ghul either. But. BUT. Bats will crush the driver of the garbage truck like an iddy biddy fly against the roof of an underpass without a second thought? That doesn't make sense and doesn't fit with the rest of the avowed "line he will not cross" schtick.
Particularly after a scene in the movie where Bats tells Harvey off for menacing one of the Joker's goons, because he (the goon) is a medicated psycho who is typical of the poor souls the Joker attracts.
Makes as much sense as Batman sparing the Joker (who he hates, for killing his ex) and then tossing Harvey Dent (DA and former best buddie) off the roof to his death, instead of just Bataraing-ing his ass from a safe distance. -
Technically he did kill Ras Al Ghul.He could have saved him but he chose not to do.
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Actually, this plot point didn't bother me. I actually thought Nolan was giving us a Batman who is very human, and hence, sometimes makes some very human screw-ups (like Craig as Bond). It was my impression that part of the Joker's mind-games with Batman was calling the Dark Knight on his BS (breaking the law in order to preserve it, not killing anyone but "choosing" not to protect or save others, using extreme methods of law enforcement without realizing these might breed extreme criminality).
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Two things will happen when the series ends. They will either try to mimic the gritty and realistic style with another director, which will fail.miserably or will do another interpretation. I hope it is the latter.
I personally like begins more and here is why: Bruce doesn't become Batman until 55 minutes into the film but the story still manages to be intriguing. I love how the back story and the events in Asia ran side by side. It made me feel closer to Bruce. Nolan made Bruce Wayne interesting. Sure, dark Knight has ledger kicking ass as joker....but everyone loves the villain. Begins made the hero the one to watch -
Batman's monologue
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It felt like I was watching a scene from a 'Bourne' movie. The camera just felt too up close. That is the first fail.
While the Scarecrow was an interesting way to go with the villain he just seemed lame in the long run. Maybe I need to rewatch it but I just felt he needed to do more. But great performance.
Katie Holmes...2nd fail.
Neeson was cool. His story arc was good. But by the time the have their showdown I was tired of it all and was longing for Burtons Batman.
But then The Dark Knight came out and changed my whole perception. Granted I haven't watched Batman Begins since the theater and think it deserves a rewatch. But I've rewatched TDK several times since it came out so what does that tell you. TDK FTW. -
But Bats *really* squishes Garbage Truck Guy. He's not walking away from that needing a few stitches. He's not going to have a headache in the morning. He's dead. And now I think about it, why didn't Bats take out the articulated lorry first?
And why in Batman (1989) does the Joker say "I was just a kid" when Batman says, "You killed my parents" if he doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman?
And why does Judge Dredd's gun sample his DNA through his glove, but Rico needs four giant needles in his forearm later in the same movie?
And why doesn't Dumbledore beat Voldemort when he clearly has the Elder Wand at the end of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix?
And why do the natives of Skull Island build a wall to keep King King out with a f*cking great big door in it?
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Jan 23, 2012 12:59:05 PM CST
Love the scene in BB where Batman summons the bats to help him
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
I think that was probably the moment I realised that I totally loved the movie I was watching.
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Jan 23, 2012 1:33:17 PM CST
Well jimbocop, I think the Joker could have pieced it together
by mugato5150
How many parents could he have killed while leaving the kid alive, I don't care how crazy he was?
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Heath Ledger's Joker steals the show, but Batman Begins is a better movie as a whole.
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Cool if you like the other Batman films. Makes sense. However, Two Face with two separate personalities is just fucking stupid. Glad no one has done that because it's just utterly ridiculous. Getting burned like that would have in no way shape or form the effect of creating a multiple personality, look it up if you doubt me. I loved Nolan's take, just like I find Maggie to be a very classy actress and I was excited when she was brought on board. But all these things are opinions, and as you said, you have a right to yours and I have a right to mine.
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Mugato, the ballistics scene is bad, I hate that part, this is just my argument that doing something for the sake of "It's what he does in da comics" doesn't make it a good idea. The Batman detective shit should've been dropped, it didn't fit into his world.
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Jan 23, 2012 3:11:28 PM CST
i love that line in the movie. morgan is the perfect presence to play off bale bats
by smudgewhat
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have elements of the comic book writers that have written the character over the years.
keatons batman was clearly in the frank miller style. totally out of his fucking mind, very dangerous and borderline psychotic. he likes nothing more than to dress up as a bat and beat the shit out of bad guys and would probably do it for the rest of his life.
bales batman is more from the dennis o'neil era. totally in control, much more well adjusted as a person and actually working for a day when batman is no longer needed in gotham
kilmers batman was somewhere in between the last two, clearly he was supposed to be a continuation of the batman from the burton movies, but he did actually smile once in a while and actually seemed cared about what happened to people. so he wasn't a total psyco.
and by the time we got to george clooney as batman it was just basically the 60's adam west tv show on steroids. and fuck that shit. -
get a fuckin edit button aicn. join the fucking 90's allready. jesus...
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Jan 23, 2012 8:49:51 PM CST
Burton's Batman just kicked ass Nolan's get's too wrapped up in "morality" psh
by cgih8r
Burton's Batman bled blood and took a punishing beating in the cathedral tower with costume all torn and covered in dust before finally gaining the tactical advantage and sending that dude over the ledge. Nolan's Batman just gets out of breath and his outfit is always super clean. I care about shit like that. Keaton also bloodied up the joker's face when he punched him, Nolan's joker just gets his makeup rubbed off.
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These Nolan Batman movies haven't been very good. I mean, they're not horrible or anything, but, ya know. The best Batman adaptation was BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES and its derivations. No other screen Batman has touched that version.
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