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Published at: Jan. 21, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!

Today we get to see the Shatner with Star Trek: The Motion Picture director Robert Wise on the bridge of the Enterprise. We live in a time where most filmmakers do one thing and do it well, but look at Robert Wise’s filmography. He has directed classics in almost all genres. The Haunting in horror, The Day the Earth Stood Still in sci-fi, West Side Story and Sound of Music in musicals, Somebody Up There Likes Me in drama… the man moved from genre to genre effortlessly. It’s pretty remarkable.

So, here’s Shatner and Wise talking during the filming of the very first Star Trek film. Enjoy and click to enlargen!

 

 

If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at quint@aintitcool.com.

Tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes pic features one of the most successful reboots in modern filmmaking history.

-Eric Vespe
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  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST

    banned_of_brothers

    by phantomcreeps

    Yeah, I think the first movie is quite brilliant. Not perfect, but ambitious, for the time. Beutiful to look at, and underrated. 1-3 are my favorites. They fit together like a hand and glove.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I love star trek the motion picture

    by robamenta

    its the only real star trek movie..the rest are all film adaptations of a tv show its filled with the best trek moments of all time...opening klingon battle, the shuttle fly over the enterprise...spock zipping through vger..and one of the most beautiful scores of all time. i know a lot of you hate it...but I find it genuinely thought provoking and i love the parallel stories of both spock and vger looking for meaning in thier lives. im sad we will never get another intelligent star trek film again..maybe a new series will rectify that at least on tv...and jj abrams, does not have a clue was trek is

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Paced and thoughtful. A greatly under rated film.

    by Yamato

    I love the "23rd century is a whole different culture" aspect. The costume, especially of the citizens at the transport port in SF is great. Sexual, part of a society very different from ours.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I saw it theatrically when I was 11 or 12

    by proevad

    I hadn't yet seen 2001 yet, so this was my first experience with a film clearly influenced by it. I mean Star Wars was according to Lucas--(but c'mon--they aren't really anything alike) Anyway. I really liked it. My Dad thought it sucked--but he liked Chuck Norris movies so he doesn't count. Can't say if it holds up. Think it's been 15 years since the last time I watched it on cable.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Tomorrow's pic the JJ's Star Shit? Probably.

    by KilliK

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST

    proevad

    by phantomcreeps

    You should watch it again. So comforting, get a blanket, by the fire. It will make you feel good.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Chuck Norris sure turned into a bitch, didn't he?

    by phantomcreeps

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Wow, those TMP costumes...

    by AbramsPRIME

    Look WAY more dated than the original 60's outfits (remarkably well updated in JJ Trek). Say what you will about that first ST movie ("Kubrik-esque" brilliance or "the motionless picture"), those outfits HAVE NOT aged well.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    I can still watch this film

    by AntiBeru

    Saw it in '79... Fell asleep. 8 years old. But it now remains my favorite of the Original Films. So much to soak in with every scene - thanks Robert Wise! And a brilliant score.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Star Trek TMP, we should just worship it.

    by Dark Doom

    It is the monolith that rebirthed a franchise. Gene never said 'fuck you' to his fans. He might have been out of his mind..literally, but he gets some cred here. IIRC Asimov was writing the story, then it changed. But all in all TMP was a hot mess..I loved it..Stood in line at Essex Green Theatre in West Orange NJ for the opening day and got my Star Trek Pin from the goody bag!! cool..

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST

    I love/loved this Movie

    by LargoJr

    It was the ONLY film that matched what Gene was trying to tell. "The Human Adventure", not some fucking uber-action sci shoot em up extravaganza. Yeah.. I loved ST2, but TMP is still hands down my favorite. The idea of bringing everyone back together, not just literally for the film, but in the story in character as well... each individual having to overcome the fact that their lives have all taken them in different directions.. It just worked for me. Anyone who calls it slow, boring, or badly paced seriously needs to go fuck themselves.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Nice to see the love here

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    Felt overlong and repetitive when I was a little boy, but I suppose I was the wrong age/audience. Got the Director's Cut and it's probably my favorite Trek film now. II and IV are fun but feel too campy compared to this one at times.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Yeah. Great opening scene.

    by OutsideChance

    Incredible music. Some of Goldsmith's best work.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Shatner in the best shape of his life

    by Nem_Wan

    Ten years older than he was in the TV series, and weight could be a problem back then. So just look at him here. The 70s were the worst period of his career, so Shatner hit the gym and took this giant-budget movie very seriously as the comeback opportunity it represented.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Phantom--ya know I think I'll do that tomorrow night

    by proevad

    I've seen it only three times--might give ST V a whirl too. Only saw it once (maybe it's not as bad as I remember lol)

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST

    nem_wan - agree. very cool.

    by Mennen

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST

    KHAN.... Still the best ever.

    by Mennen

  • As though anyone who would dare to like JJ's version is some sort of lowest common denominator frat boy deserving to be looked down on in contempt. Kinda flies against the whole concept of Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations no? Or acceptance of different opinions?

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    slder78: Watch the parts that were cut from JarJars reboot...

    by LargoJr

    ... then come back and tell me he has a fucking clue about what Star Trek is/was. Kirk is a COMPLETE fucking douchebag... no lie.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Best Star Trek drinking game ever.

    by Iblis_mage

    Watch the original long-ass cut of ST:TMP and during that endless shuttlepod tour around the Enterprise, take a shot whenever Wise is clearly just off camera directing Shatner which direction he's supposed to be looking. (You'll need to be good and drunk for the remainder of the film after that sequence.)

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Fuck you Creepythinman!

    by phantomcreeps

    Fuck you! I can't wait to see your ugly,repugnant, head show its face. I will be on your ass, to refutiate, every, fucking word you say. To everyone else, sorry, but I'm going to take that fucker head on. Where he appears, so shall I. Just shaking my stick in the bushes. C'mon Thinman, where are you?

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Largojir

    by slder78

    I have watched the deleted scenes. 1) In the alt timeline his dad is killed leaving him with an abusive "father figure". Having him not be punk would be inconsistent with his character arc. 2) You telling me he wasn't a douchbag at all in the prime timeline? He was a deadbeat dad. I don't care if Carol Marcus told him to stay away. He chose a career flying around the stars boning anything with long hair and breasts over being a father. AND he totally cockblocked Decker out of the Captain's chair in TMP. Why? Cause he realized he fucked up and wanted to be on the Enterprise. Kirk was about as self-centered as you can get throughout the whole of the Prime timeline. <p>Can't believe I'm going to quote Joss Whedon cause of how overrated I think he is, but he actually had a point when he said TV is the medium to pose "the question." Film is the medium to give "the answer." And for Star Trek that is appropriate.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST

    i could never get over the re-use of efx from tmp in star trek2

    by robamenta

    how f-ing cheap can you get?? i mean did they think we wouldnt notice??

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    About once every two years...

    by bubcus

    ... late at night I sit down on the couch and pop this movie in. I love it. It's just this peaceful, reflective film that relaxes me. I admit the costumes do look terrible (ST2 almost didn't happen because of those costumes), but it's still a great film.

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST

    the thing about star trek the motion picture

    by percane

    it's a VERY visual movie. it's essentially the star trek version of 2001 a space odyssey. as such it really suffers on the small screen because the story isn't quite good enough. and for over a decade that was really the only way you could see it: pan and scan on a 20"-30" TV (unless you had a TON of money) the advent of big screen tvs and then flat screen tvs really helped this movie, because if you compare it widescreen/hi def to low res/pan and scan, it's almost like 2 different films

  • Jan. 21, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST

    I hated ST TMP. Bored the living bleep out of my pooper!

    by btc909

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST

    nem_wan, yes and when TMP sort of bombed...

    by SEVGN

    ...and that's a debatable word for the first film's box office, but follow me on this. Shatner takes TMP VERY seriously. Gets in great shape, puts time and effort into his character, dusts off the best toupee he has. This is FINALLY his grand return to fame and fortune, a chance to be vindicated for choosing to do Star Trek more than a decade earlier. Do this film and then bigger, better roles in non-trek films will roll in. But then the film is overbudget and underwhelming at the box office. This is NOT the film that will propel Shatner back to Stardom, just back to Star Trek. There's a sequel, but it's for a fraction of the original's budget - not the triumphant return he wanted. He's crushed and is now reflecting on a career on the downward slide. He feels old and outdated. Which is EXACTLY what Admiral Kirk feels at the beginning of TWoK! All Shatner's inner demons are perfectly mirrored by his character in ST II. This is the part of a lifetime for him because it's the perfect intersection of real life and character. All his internal pain and remorse of his life choices can now be vetted through Kirk. When he is sitting in his apartment during his birthday scene, it is Shatner who feels old, outdated and trapped in this film. So it is the failure of the first film that provides Shatner the emotional springboard to give the performance of his life in Star Trek 2. At least, I think.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST

    I saw it in the theater when I was 12

    by disfigurehead

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST

    I like "Kingdom of the Spiders" more...

    by MST3KPIMP

    and I 'm not being sarcastic... It's pretty great.. you got Shatner playin it serious and stompin on live tarantulas as they didnt have such strict rules back then.. They could never make this movie today!.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST

    TMP: The Director's Cut is fantastic

    by Jake Pantlin

    I really like The Directors Cut. I hope that they can put that out on Blu Ray in the next few years. I always like dthe ship designs; especially the Vulcan Shuttle. There is a Star Trek "fan film" called Yorktown (starring George Takie) that has a different version of that shuttle, which was redesigned by Andrew Probert himself. Looks really cool. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151132125835206&set=o.151211704904054&type=1&theater

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST

    btc909

    by phantomcreeps

    You have a boring pooper. What does your pooper enjoy? Pray tell.

  • The design in TMP gave a sense of the Star Trek world moving-on somewhat. Nice big bridge -USS Voyager's bridge would later recall this design- and a different colour pallet, not so many primary colours telling you what to think. Late seventies, early eighties was a golden age for outfits in sci-fi. A few spring to mind. Buck Rogers' classic white costume and Karen Carlson's leather gear from the ep Planet Of The Slave Girls. The tan outfits from the original BSG. (pre-Mal Reynolds in Firefly) Jenny Agutter and Michael York had some cool outfits in Logan's run, not least Jenny's Infamous Green Handkerchief..

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 1:29 a.m. CST

    My Second Favourite Trek Film

    by Uzala

    My first being Wrath of Khan, but I love this film too.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Vulcan Shuttle By MPC

    by rickdeckard1

    I think it was MPC whom made the Trek TMP models? I remember buying one of the Vulcan shuttles for my brother for his birthday, it was a really cool designed ship. You had the black hole, and buck rogers around that same time frame and galactica models by MPC !

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 1:37 a.m. CST

    themeofme...Glad to know I wasn't the only kid...

    by conspiracy

    who could never get those damned lights working. Alas...my Enterprise also ended up a sacrifice to the Gods of Daisy and Black Cat a couple of years later.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Speaking of MPC models...can you believe this shit???

    by conspiracy

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MPC-CYGNUS-MODEL-KIT-THE-BLACK-HOLE-MOVIE-/270751786088?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0a106468

  • ...Where he plays Steve Austin's astronaut buddy who can telepathically communicate with dolphins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9moDEXOW_As

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST

    THE BEST OF THE SERIES.

    by adulcegrey

    The only film of the series that was thought provoking, actually lived up to its premise 'to boldly go where no man has gone before', had Douglas Trumbull and John Dykstra's amazing effects, the best music score. The rest of the series were more 'character based' and dealt with inter-personal conflicts... STTMP dealt more with a real, tangible science fiction premise that none of the other films have dared to touch, most importantly JJ Abram's version, whose story still has me scratching my head.

  • I grew up in the 80s/90s but if you want to marvel at some seventies pop culture and old merch catologs, I commend to you the following website: www.plaidstallions.com the 'Mall Appearance Gallery' has a very mundane Darth Vader making a speech at a Chevy dealership in Eugene, Oregon.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:37 a.m. CST

    ST:TMP is chronically underrated.

    by Keith Maniac

    I think someone mentioned above, the opening shot of the three Klingon cruisers, followed by the tracking shot which rotates 180 degrees over the bridge whilst looking downwards, with that aggressive Goldsmith score, is just amazing. It somehow manages, in a way i cant verbalise, to capture that essence of epicness that films now, on the whole, fall way short of. I enjoyed JJ Trek, i thought it had humour and camaraderie, which are Trek keynotes. They were right to introduce the two fisted, action element, i suppose they feel that the mass audience could'nt tolerate two hours of more, cerebral sci-fi today. I think whats funny about that, is that Hollywood blockbusters, on the whole, are a slave to the trends that they have created, faster storytelling, more and more visual distraction.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Nice to finally see some TMP love

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It's always been my favourite, probably because I was six years old when I was taken to the cinema to see it, and it blew my mind wide open. Amazing cinema experience. Watch this back-to-back with JJ's Trek, one is a cinematic odyssey with great ideas, beautiful score and memorable dialogue., the other is a crass cash-in, written to cater to the lowest common denominator. Watch the extras on the DVD where JJ and co all repeat how they wanted to make Trek "cool". Idiots.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:57 a.m. CST

    thecomedian

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Thanks for sharing! Wow, classic Shat.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Fantastically crafted with no heart no emotion

    by unparanoid_android

    If you've ever wondered what a Trek movie directed by Chris Nolan would be like, TMP is your answer...

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 5:11 a.m. CST

    no heart no emotion

    by adulcegrey

    Why does Science Fiction have to have heart and emotion? 2001 didn't have it. Leave the heart and emotion to the chic flicks if it means a more sophisticated story.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 5:35 a.m. CST

    Neckbeards who assert their manliness via assembly language need their movies too.

    by highfunctioningsociopath

    - "Sir, is this a bughunt?" - "No, it's a teenage male libido that has been trapped for 300 years inside a network of antiquated semi-conductors." - "Damn, and I was hoping for hot blue alien chicks."

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 5:39 a.m. CST

    =Fantastically crafted with no heart no emotion=

    by KilliK

    LIKE 2001.FACT.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Fuck You creepythinman!

    by phantomcreeps

  • ...and in the coming months, I went back to the theater many times to see it again. If I felt underwhelmed at all, I at least knew the film had to be "successful" if there was to be any more Star Trek. Don't know if I talked myself into enjoying the first movie or actually enjoyed it...it doesn't really matter to me. I'm just glad that I was able to do my small part to make sure, 33 years later, Star Trek is still here with us.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 6:26 a.m. CST

    HI CREEPYTHINMAN!

    by phantomcreeps

  • A great movie, and actually becoming more topical as time passes and we live in an age where the concept of AI is not so fantastic. Also i remember the reveal of it being little Voyager behind it all epic and such a cool concept, to a 10 year old brainwashed by his trek nerdy dad! lol

  • It's my Randy-Hickey-ian thought when it comes to this movie and the Borg.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Ahhh, the Sans-A-Belt 70's. Good times. Good times.

    by planetran_fan

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Ah Yesssss...

    by Brandon Dillard

    Love the TMP love going on. No other Trek film characterized the series so well. I still tear up at the Enterprise flyby. Goosebumps galore! And the Klingons! Oh my. I love Worf, but those IMHO were REAL KLINGONS!!! JJ I want Klingons, REAL KLINGONS!!!! Bring it on!!

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Re: Tangcameo and the borg

    by Brandon Dillard

    Roddenberry himself is know to have said he considered V'gers homeworld to be the Borg homeworld.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    I always thought that the movie was boring.

    by DerLanghaarige

    I only knew it from TV airings. But then, a few years ago, I saw it during a Star Trek night on the big screen. It not just looked awesome, but without being interrupted by millions of commercial breaks, the slow, but steady pace of this movie worked so much better. Yes, it's definitely a good movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    thecomedian

    by proevad

    That was amazing. Shit like that could bring down empires. Man--I'll never be the same. Wow.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    still my fav trek film.

    by alice133

    luv tmp. luv the story. the return of voyager = awesome sci-fi. and so glad they didnt bring back a decker/iliager hybrid love child destroying the galaxy in a sequel. but wtf not a single kirk roll.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Conspiracy

    by cornponious

    I built that model! It was huge, 2 feet long. It even had a detachable Palomino ship that rested on the docking port at the back. I also had a model of VINCENT.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Cant even describe how awesome the 70's were...

    by LargoJr

    We had Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, Space: 1999, and The Six Million Dollar Man... being a kid was just FREAKING AWESOME then. (Plus we had the best toys)

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Happy so many others...

    by digginjim

    ...seem to appreciate TMP. To my mind the best ST film and the only true sci-fi movie in the series. I don't think we'll ever see one like it again. The directors cut is excellent. Shame we won't see a blu release for it.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    =faster storytelling, more and more visual distraction. =

    by KilliK

    George Lucas's mantra.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    @slder78-- actually, NOT a deadbeat dad

    by HarveyManfrenjenson

    It's clearly established in TWOK that Kirk did not know he had a son by Carol Marcus. The director Nick Meyer talks about this a bit in "A View from the Bridge". Apparently Kirk *did* know about David in an early draft of the screenplay, but this was changed for precisely the reason you bring up-- it made Kirk seem like too much of a douche.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    There is no substitute. That was the poster tagline.

    by UltraTron

    This was the only Startrek movie they've made yet. Everything since has failed everywhere this one succeeds. And it's story is a roller coaster compared to plodding through any one of the Harry potter wondering in the woods movies.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    This was the Douglas Trumbull one. It was just this latest movie

    by UltraTron

    where the enterprise started to compare to his work here. You can now argue that the new enterprise is more convincing. But it's still an argument. The way he lit the thing made you feel like it was parked offshore. Gonna watch this one again. Also make sure you peel those stickers off your blu-rays from Netflix. Polish those things up. I noticed the sticker gives you 100% maximum error correction and basically makes blu look worse than my hd cable. Can't believe how shitty it makes blus look. Peel that shit off.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'm no Trekky but I enjoy TMP

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Of course Goldsmith is one of my heros so that helps. I don't think its a bad film.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    ultratron--just remember it's WAND for wandering

    by proevad

    ...although I'm sure he was wondering about wands while he was wandering in the woods.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Did you actually see TWOK, harveymanfrenjenson ?

    by Mugato5150

    Kirk obviously knows he's David's father. He mentions that Carol told him to stay away.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    gayest shat pose ever

    by Daniel

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    I like parts of it in isolation like the Enterprise flyby

    by Tacom

    Seeing that by itself with Jerry Goldsmith's score and the Enterprise looking real and massive, it's awe inspiring. In the actual movie it slows it down.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Robert Wise was a racist douchebag

    by MooseMalloy

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Robert Wise edited CITIZEN FUCKING KANE.

    by Knuckleduster

    The man's a legend.

  • It was a few years ago. The title of it escapes me now, but is buried somewhere in my amazon wishlist for 2012. God, I have so may books to catch-up on, it's ridiculous.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Let's not beat around the bush.

    by successor

    <p>I find the film boring as all hell. It really is. Just try to stay awake watching it. And I'm not some ADD-afflicted visigoth of the modern era. I've sat through and enjoyed Tarkovsky's Solaris and Stalker, Gone with the Wind, The Godfather, etc. I can enjoy long movies so long as it's a good story. But TMP is not a good story.</p> <p>Star Trek V is the worst of the original series movies, but this one comes in a close second. And at least number five is a fascinating train wreck of a film. This one just lies there dead on the screen.</p> <p>Five minute of the Enterprise. Yes, it's the Enterprise. We get it. Thank you. Please move on. Ten more minutes of staring at special effects in the cloud, which is about as exciting as watching tumbleweeds blow across the desert. To call the pace glacial would be a compliment. Flat performances all across the board, except for McCoy. Awful suits and tacky interior design. I'll take the militaristic designs of the later films any day.</p> <p>And let's not forget the film has some big plot holes. Like how Kirk waits for the Enterprise to be repaired. If the situation were that dire, why not take another fucking ship, genius? And Starfleet has only one ship to respond to a major crisis? And if V'ger is so powerful, why can't it wipe the gunk off its own side and know it's Voyager VI? Some really bad writing there.</p> <p>If Star Trek had continued on this path or had Roddenberry gotten his JFK assassination story made, the movie series would've been dead in the water. Thank goodness Meyer and Bennett came along and gave some of the later movies a good shot of drama.</p> <p>As with 1900 and Heaven's Gate, there seems to be a lot of apologia for a film that is stupefyingly dull.</p>

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Brilliant smart film, true SciFi, still has best effects ever

    by picardsucks

    Best effects (though a few shots look dated, all the matte painting shots) of any sci fi film ever Certainly the second best Trek filmn ever and one of the smartest Sci Fi films of all time Not for the short attention span shakey cam, axe body spray dumbshits who need fast smart ass dialogue written by (usually) some nebish wallflower who thinks that is what the cool crowd said in High School and College I wish they would do the Directors Edition on Blu

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Robert Wise a racist?

    by djangoilbastardo

    I don't think a racist" would've made a film like ODDS AGAINST TOMORROW.

  • and curiously enough, is the template for one of the best original Star Trek episodes "The Balance of Terror".

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Run Silent, Run Deep

    by KilliK

    One of the best war movies with submarines ever.FACT.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    @killik...absolutely agree.

    by tritium

  • And Spock's Vulcan Shuttle from STTMP. Lots of things like that boxed up in my garage.

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I agree, successor

    by Mugato5150

    It was boring for no reason. But then 2001 had the same problems and it's considered a masterpiece.

  • Such a grand adventure, with all the elements that make a great story, courage, humour, sacrifice, love and loss. There's real meaning in TMP. In fact all of the Trek movies have these elements, which is why I own them all, and always watch them in order (including ST:V which in my opinion is unfairly maligned as a dumb story about the search for God, but instead should be appreciated as a story about friendship)

  • Jan. 22, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I'm just kidding

    by MooseMalloy

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    I love the ending lines to all the TOS Trek films.

    by Dogmatic

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Out there...thattaway.

    by Dogmatic

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Jim. Your name....is Jim.

    by Dogmatic

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Let's see what she's got.

    by Dogmatic

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Second star to the right....and straight on til morning.

    by Dogmatic

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    ST:TMP Defenders are interested (and a bit deluded).

    by Sluggolicious

    I have nothing much to ad, other than it's funny how film-fanatics (myself included) have this innate need to brand everything we like as 'exceptional' and things we have trouble with as 'crap.' I've seeing a lot of fan-boy comments expressing their imagined nerd-given duty to defend this movie and pretend its length isn't a problem. Well, guess what? Your arbitrary choice to believe in something that isn't real doesn't magically validate your belief. This movie isn't bad, but it isn't great either. While there are some interesting concepts buried in the muck and the F/X are fantastic, it's a little flat (like Return of the Jedi). It's obvious to anyone who's ever seen a movie that the film-makers insisted on shoving the massive FX budget in viewers' faces, even if doing so was actually detrimental to the pacing. This film could easily lose 15 minutes of its ponderous running time and the story would still be in there - just more accessible and compelling. Shots of a ship moving through a cloud are dull and no amount of pretending or whining is going to change that.

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    *INTERESTING*

    by Sluggolicious

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    I watched this all the time as a kid when my Trekkiness was in full swing.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    I am curious to revisit it again since there is so much love for it. As I recall is was a little slow, but as a film it seemed so much more interesting. I've also heard comparisons that they were trying to do 2001:ASO.

  • Jan. 23, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    @mugato5150: the deadbeatiness of Kirk

    by HarveyManfrenjenson

    What a question. Of course I've seen TWOK-- it's in my personal top 10. And I think I'm correctly recalling that Kirk never knew about his son (Kirk to Marcus: "Why didn't you tell me?") But... whatever, you've given me a pretext to watch it again.

  • Jan. 24, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Those LOOOOOOOOOOONG VFX

    by JIMBOCOP

    sequences were only delivered a matter of hours before the film was (un)edited and shipped to cinemas. One of the finest examples of setting the release date first and worrying about finishing the damn movie afterwards.

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