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A Frontrunner Has Emerged In The FANTASTIC FOUR Reboot-Directin' Sweepstakes!
Beaks here...
Fox execs are reportedly keen to hire twenty-six-year-old Josh Trank to direct the studio's reboot of THE FANTASTIC FOUR. It's practically a done deal! According to Variety, the job is Trank's provided his debut feature, CHRONICLE, doesn't bomb when it goes into wide release over Super Bowl weekend. If it stiffs, I guess they'll blame the young filmmaker for not opening a movie they liked internally but failed to sell to teens and twentysomethings?
That part of Variety's story doesn't make sense. If Fox is likes Trank based on CHRONICLE, they're going to offer him the film regardless of what CHRONICLE does at the domestic box office - unless someone cheaper and more promising comes along. Michael Green, who created NBC's well-received KINGS and grabbed a credit on GREEN LANTERN, is currently writing the screenplay. Akiva Goldsman was originally set to produce the new FANTASTIC FOUR, but he's evidently too busy fucking up other studios' projects, so he has moved on.
I do not know the work of Josh Trank, so I have no opinion on this hire. I hope that he is talented. I also hope that Michael Green has an Oa-sized chip on his shoulder after GREEN LANTERN and turns in a spectacular screenplay. After X-MEN: FIRST CLASS and RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, I feel like Fox has turned a corner with their franchise films. We shall see.
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I think he could've done a good job with it.
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I could rant about how every fucking movie coming out now is a remake or a reboot or a rehash or a sequel or a prequel or a reimagining of something else or that worse, it's a remake or a reboot or a rehash or a sequel or a prequel or a reimagining of something that was done less than 10 years ago but what would be the fucking point? If most of this post wasn't a copy or a paste of previous text I wrote in this same post, I wouldn't have the strength to compl
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FF would be great if done in the style of that Ewan and Renee movie set in the sixties. But it will probably turn into a WB/CW teen feet.
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Jan. 13, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST
I actually don't feel the FF movies get the hate they truly deserve
by matthooper8
The screenplay, direction and most of the acting is like a SyFy movie. This is a franchise that deserves a reboot!
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Jan. 13, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
Chronicle looks pretty decent, and there is no baggage fanboys have with this guy
by Terrence
Except for the fact that he's probably as old as most of us.
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should be Billy Crudup(Watchmen,Almost Famous)
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Always thought it was too goofy. The movies confirmed my suspicion.
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Fox isn't going to just give FF back to Marvel Studios, even if they have to crank out a Corman-level reboot. That's the reason for nu-Spidey and the last X-Men, too. Crazy that Marvel can't seem to get their hands back on their three top features, but I guess they were the first to be licensed for a reason.
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It's the sequel to the sequel to the prequel to the sequel before the final sequel to the original movie. I liked the FF movies. They were light, but fun. Going all out with a 3rd effort would make more sense than starting over.
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Jan. 13, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
HAHA! Goldsman was gonna do this?? dodged a bullet there!
by LegendarySpartanBlood
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I forget his name. But "Moon" and "Source Code" were both kick ass sci-fi with a strong human element, which is the cornerstone of any good FF story. But who are we all kidding here. This is Fox, not Marvel Studios. There's no way an "FF" reboot's going to be anywhere near as good as "Captain America" was or "the Avengers" is going to be.
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it's up to the sixth sequel of the ninth reboot
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Is the best FF we'll ever get, so just put this shit to bed. Too many producers at Fox get their hands into shit and fuck it all up.
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Re: matthooper... In a world where many comic fans point to "Daredevil" as the lowest common denominator of film adaptations, there isn't NEARLY enough vitriolic hate slung at Tim Story's "Fantastic Four" movies. They're absolute fucking abominations. Thankfully, I only saw them both because I had to screen the prints at the theater I worked at. In my opinion, Tim Story got a grand total of ONE element right in the entirety of both films... the Silver Surfer. And I'll attribute that much more to Doug Jones and the SFX team than to anything Tim Story had to do with it. Honestly, I'm slowly growing hyped for "Chronicle," but I'm not sure that a near-unknown with one credit(and a quasi-super hero credit at that) is the right choice. Just seems like they're once again going for the bottom rung of the ladder. re: anti-hero... Once upon a time, the studio was actually aiming high for the "Fantastic Four" property, talking to people like Steven Soderbergh to helm it. I agree entirely with anti-hero that, in a perfect world, we'd have Brad Bird handling this reboot since he's already come closer than anyone on earth to delivering an actual Fantastic Four movie with "The Incredibles."
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Jan. 13, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
so whose dick did he suck to get a gig in the first place?
by alienindisguise
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needs a longer period of time. Its left such a stink, it will still taint any new movie. Just like wang lee's hulk stank up Leterrier's vastly superior incredible hulk.
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you know it makes sense.
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Jan. 13, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST
Dude who looks like a turd,rubber man,invisible chick and guy who goes on fire.Cronenberg bitches.
by JohnWayneWasGay
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Jan. 13, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST
I didnt care for it, and will never watch it again, but Daredevil is faar from the worst superhero movie to come down the pipe.
by dahveed1972
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Jan. 13, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
As far as FF, a reboot couldnt possibly be worse than the previous movies.
by dahveed1972
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"Daredevil" is far from successful, but it gets a shocking amount of backlash from fans. I've always suspected that backlash was due in large part to the fact that it was the first comic book adaptation that came hot off the heels of the runaway commercial and critical success of "X-men" and "Spider-man." Had Daredevil come out after, say, Ang Lee's "Hulk"... probably wouldn't be nearly as reviled as it is today. It is by no means a great film, and the casting of Affleck is a horrible misfire, but I'd be lying if I said I don't leave it on the tv every once and awhile if FX is playing it late at night. Here's to hoping David Slade gets on the ball and casts Ryan Gosling for his new DD flick.
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The Thing must be CGI.
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Granted, this was back in 2002(god I'm getting old). I was only 14 and a little mouthy, granted, but they're some touchy pricks over there.
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Nuff said
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And not look like a bad for Syfy movie like the last two?
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Anybody hear Rob Liefeld say he's seen 10 minutes or so of test footage for the Deadpool film? And it actually sounds kind of awesome? Unfortunately,FOX will NEVER spend the cash to churn out an R-rated Deadpool movie. Even if they do mange to get Ryan Reynolds to star.....
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How did they not know their golden ape was prego? After killing a bakers dozen of apes, why do they have a problem killing the last one. What government wouldn't kill that ape after it attacks a human? How dumb was it when Ceaser screams no? They killed the whole human race with a five minute graphic after the final credits started. All the movie did was pull at heart strings and make you forget how stupid it is. Burton's was better and I hated that one too.
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1st class was a critical sucess because of a director and staff hat cared about the material. It was still underfunded and "the seams were showing". But hell the guy can't be worse then Tim Story.
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The hulk fought a couple Humvees on a college campus, yeah thats vastly superior to fighting tanks, attack choppers, and a F-18.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST
will we get a real Galactus this time? Will he eat some mother fucking planets?!?!
by Simpsonian
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I read that at BleedingCool, too.
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Directors are just traffic managers laying on glitz and jitter. <p> It's always the same old shit. The same fucking camera angles, the same fucking pacing, the same fucking characters saying the same fucking dialogue.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST
This time they should go all the way and cast a black actress for Sue Richards
by KilliK
and instead of CGI to create the bulkiness of the Thing,just go all the way and use a Thing mascot suit instead of makeup.I mean why not?
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give him pounds of cocaine, booze and hookers. It would be the most bat-shit crazy FF film but damn the EPK (Electronic Press Kit) Behind-the-Scenes stuff would be awesome!
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST
and make Galactus into a purple rain instead of a purple cloud and have Prince
by KilliK
as Silver Surfer who introduces him to the humans by singing his famous pop song: Purple Rain. why not?
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Always has been. I loved all kinds of comics as a kid, but I just couldn't get into FF. The matching costumes, the Baxter Building, the Fantasticar... it all seemed so hokey. Like THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO or something. It doesn't matter how many times they try to turn FF into a film. It will suck because the corny nature of the subject matter will not translate well.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST
@3d-man same here.never liked FF for the reasons you mention.
by KilliK
except for Doom ofc.Best Marvel villain imho.
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The entire first movie was a vehicle for alba in her underwear or a tight bodysuit. I was so offended while masterbating furiously.
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Do it right this time you idiots... Dr. Doom is a hard core villain do him right and you're half way there. Don't make it stupid. It's like they defended how shitty those movies were by simply saying "It's family friendly"... Right that doesn't mean it has to be shit.
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he was really good in these films. In fact most everyone was. cept Alba
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she was perfect for this and Alba really brought the production down.
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Apparently he's a fan of Zach Snyder as well.
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It's got a bad ass Doom, Franklin and Val being useful and fun, tons of super science, etc.
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All I have to do is figure out some sort of found footage story and get some rich friends of mine to produce it and next thing you know, I've got a directing career.
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Too bad he nor Sean Astin for got a crack at this and they went with the director of Barbershop instead. What a tragedy.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST
Reading comprehension and analytical skills. Try them out some time Beaks...
by J242
This set of lines is just abhorrent: "That part of Variety's story doesn't make sense. If Fox is likes Trank based on CHRONICLE, they're going to offer him the film regardless of what CHRONICLE does at the domestic box office -" It doesn't make sense that a studio might like the director's view, choices, etc enough to hire him to heml a project without worrying about the revenue generated from a previous project of his? This is a young director who is still very young in his proffesion. What studio WOULDN'T want to take a low-cost throw of the dice with someone of his (visual, audio and narrational) skills? Sheesh... You sound like a withered "old hand" industry hack with lines like that.
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Born to direct Fantastic Four.
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Really great show, I was sorry to see it go. You kind of had to know your Jewish History to appreciate it. But it was still good. FF, I agree, much worse than DD (which I actually like, Director's Cut), not as awful as Electra. That having been said, Elektra and DD could have been better if done right. And I actually liked Garner as Elektra in the first one, although I'd have prefered someone like Kate Beckinsale looks more the part, and could probably do a better physical job. But I think there's a larger question with FF, can you really make a FF film without it coming off stupid? Thing is such a big part of that, yet it's hard to create a film version of him that is believeable. I could go on, but I think FF is the same thing as Watchmen, you can make a version of it for the big screen, but it's never going to be great on the big screen.
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Reed: Campbell Scott/Guy Pearce/Martin Donovan Sue: Naomie Watts/Claire Danes Ben: Dominic Lombardozzi (The Wire)/Joel Edgerton (Warrior) Johnny: Aaron Paul (Breaking Bad) DOOM: VIGGO MORTENSEN/Vincent Cassel/Paul Bettany The Wizard: Steve Buscemi
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Any FF story should have a lot of genuine emotion and heart to it, but also a fun, 'gee-whiz' sense of Sci-Fi goofiness to it. 'Spider-Man 2' I think comes closest to the tone of a good FF film. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, GET AN ART DIRECTOR WHO IS READY TO KIRBY IT UP! We want psychedelic cosmic vistas and impossibly convoluted chrome gizmos!
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No one likes Fantastic Four. No one. Not even it's fans. It's sort of like Aquaman or Wonder Woman, where some sort of mental short circuit makes people *think* they like it, but then when it's actually presented to them, and they are forced to sit there and really examine it, they realize that yeah, it sucks. Also sort of like how in the early days of Star Wars, we thought we couldn't get enough flashy lightsaber action. And then they announce shit like Attack of the Clones where there is going to be like a hundred Jedi running around saber fighting and everyone is like 'that sounds awesome' and then when it's actually put in front of them they realize it gets boring in exactly 8 seconds. Sort of like that. People *think* they like Fantastic Four, and *think* they want to see Fantastic Four movies, but really, they don't. No one wants to watch a stiff middle aged father figure who can turn into rubber, a rock golem, a bitch that turns invisible and a flaming guy in a movie for 2 hours. Boring characters, boring powers, boring relationships. Boring comic, boring movie.
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What the fuck was wrong with the first Fantastic Four? I thought it was great.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 4:18 a.m. CST
RE: "What the fuck was wrong with the first Fantastic Four?"
by Stalkeye
Hmm, aside from Evans great potrayal as Johnny Storm and of couse Chiklis' Ben Grimm, the Movie itself was way off kilter as in too comical which if you have read the comics especially during the Lee/Kirby run you would have hated this film for being too non canon. Oh and then there's the casting of Alba as Sue Storm. Anyone who thinks of FF as being goofy are already biased. The Fantastic Four are not your average run of the mill superheroes. In fact they are explorers of scientific mysteries. If The Avengers are like the Police, then The FF are Scinetists. Pure and simple comparisons. And to the guy who compared them to say, Thunderbirds, are you kidding me? Those Gerry Anderson Puppets never kicked ass let alone introduced great concepts and characters such as The Negative Zone, Galactus, Silver Surfer,Black Panther, Adam Warlock, The Skrulls and of course Victor Von Doom. And I thought most of you guys did your Homework.
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Enough of pimping the classic Characters via reboots, how about focusing on the lesser known IPs that were introduced during the 70's like say, Deathlok The Demolisher, Nova, Iron Fist, Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Killraven or even fucking ROM the Spaceknight? I don't really care for the Golden age characters on screen save for Cap and The Avengers, so it's high time for some new blood to make their debut on cinema. After all, Had it not been for Blade,( Another Silver Age character) Marvel would not have quickly gained the momentum for their comic based films.
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As a big fan of Down With Love, I think FF as a 60s period piece would be groovy.
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All comics have potential for movies, but i really think ROM could be an involving action/adventure series.
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Pickin' on an 85 year old Jerry Lewis for a comment he made 14 years ago! Fuck you man!!
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I loved it for its '90s-ness.
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It really bothered me that they had Alba in white face for that role.
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1st movie: Origin, Mole Man and ending with Dr. Doom. In the first film, Victor should be introduced, have his accident. 2nd movie: Doom and the Submariner. Wedding of Reed & Sue. 3rd film: Galactus and the Silver Surfer 4th film: Franklin's birth and the Negative Zone, Annihilus. then, close the franchise. Anything after... with another creative team.
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doing it right this time went out the window i guess.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 7:03 a.m. CST
CGI will work for a character made of orange rocks. Please no rubber suited Ben Grimm!
by mdk
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Jan. 14, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST
1994 had a hot-ass little blonde as Sue - that's the only thing positive I can say
by mdk
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I know the Thing would get his ass handed to him, but it would be good to see him pound the Hulk for that first minute while Hulk still underestimated him.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST
If you edit out the park scene in DD. It would've made the movie so much better.
by welcometothepartypal
No amount of editing would help both FF movies. Alba IS a beauty but she just sucked. As some of you said, Silver Surfer was truly the best thing to come out of these. A new one could be better, but really- how much? Just give it back to MARVEL so at least Iron-Man or Thor can fly by and up the production.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 8:12 a.m. CST
If there's one Marvel property that needs an A-list director, it's the FF
by Wormie1
Really the only way to do Fantastic Four right is to huge. It needs a massive budget, and a Spielberg, Cameron level of director. I don't dislike the Tim Story movies, but they fell short of what they could be. In fact, I think Rise of the Silver Surfer is actually ptetty good. It's a shame they pussied out on their depiction of Galactus.
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I've had several accounts banned from there for disrupting their "conservative" circle jerks with facts and reason. And yeah she's still there.
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since the emergence of Ape Caesar, a whole lot of superheros could use a makeover. The Thing for sure, but also Sue Storm. I often wonder how Tim Story did such a great job when the Silver Surfer passed through buildings, but never figured out how to shoot Sue the same way; that is, even though she can bend light, a close-up will reveal her passage through a scene. This weakness in her invisibility can be used as a plot point. Even Reed and Johnny will look more believable. Sorry, but there were moments in FF2 (like the trailer!) when I thought they had really caught on to the Marvel universe.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 9 a.m. CST
F4 needs to be a summer blockbuster but it also needs to be a family drama
by sunwukong86
Reed and Sue are the parents and Ben and Johnny are the children. Honestly if anything thats what the first two films got right, the relationships between the characters.
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Is if they bring back Sue's evil alter-ego Malice. Did you see her slutty dominatrix costume in the '90s animated series? Yowza!
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Jan. 14, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST
Please make the Thing taller than five fucking foot.
by Kill List Hammertime
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Jan. 14, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST
26? Not old enough to settle down. Maybe he'll have some of that good old insanity like
by UltraTron
speilberg before everything went family shitty. I want to see human torch explode a nazi head after melting a face in closeup. Get that in under a pg13 and I might be impressed.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST
I'll take Dr. Doom. Starring Johnny Depp as Doctor Victor Von Doom.
by UltraTron
Directed by Tim Burton. Fuck it.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST
Watch! Fox will do a period piece for FF like it did with Xmen first class!
by Gregory schmerber
I can see the fox executives, who never read a fucking comic in their life making decisions about marvels first family the fantastic four. If first class made money and it was in the 60's, then we can do FF in the 50's when it was created! It's all about formula with movie executives, if it works once do it three more times. All fucking movies have to be a trilogy, they'll try to hire zac efron as human torch, to try and get girls to theatre. They'll hire a director who also has never read a comic but who will be there puppet (tim story) so they can make it as cheap as possible. = movie is doomed
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_X5C6e3ZeY
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Elizabeth banks for sue. Ryan kwanten for torch. Not sure for mr fantastic, hugh laurie maybe? The first edition's casting was so putrid (aside from evans and maybe chikilis) that theres literally no where to go but up.
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cause it's fat, hairy, and 95% of it is covered in shit, just like whoever they'll probably get to direct this unnecessary piece of shit.
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the FF should be treated as a *major* property. not with someone who's barely directed before. and PUH-LEEZE do the script right. someone here on AICN wrote after the first FF movie came out that it should be treated as a straight sf movie, and that's correct (green lantern should have been too). do the FF right- as a straight story (and it can be done) - and people will flock to it, just as they did iron man. screw it up again, and it will be a longggggggg time til such a valuable property will be given another shot by audiences.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST
This was their chance to make up for not hiring Soderbergh...
by JustinSane
...BY HIRING SODERBERGH. Oh well. As I said for many, many months before Rise of the Silver Surfer screwed it up - CLANCY BROWN AS GALACTUS!
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By making him take his helmet off every ten minutes.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST
George Clooney, Elizabeth Banks, John C. Reilly and Ryan Gosling would make a good 4
by the Green Gargantua
I like Clive Owen for doom too
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I think they need at least one movie before they bring out the big gun like the Batman Begins model.How about The Mad Thinker and some super-powerful androids and/or Puppet Master? That way they could introduce Alicia. Sub-mariner might work too, if Fox has the rights to him.
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... which is why I'm secretly hoping Fox screws up this iteration of the FF. Too bad Akiva Goldsman went on to other franchises to mess up. He definitely would have put the nail to the coffin on this franchise, but good! If Tom Rothman were no longer head honcho at Fox, I'd feel better about an FF reboot, but until then, I intend to stay clear of this one. Fox has no business doing superhero movies if they can't even get the tone right. Jessica freakin' Alba as Sue Richards --- need I say more?
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or Xmen and Spidey for that matter...it's so lame how these marvel heroes have to live in separate universes..
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A rock dude, a stretchy man, an invisible chick, and a fire guy. Oh...and a villain named Dr. Doom. Do those sound like characters that belong in a SERIOUS SCI-FI story? Or do those sound like characters from a kid's funny book? It's perfectly fine to retain the love you had for something when you were young. But, kind of like the guys who demand an intense, sophisticated G.I. JOE movie, one shouldn't lose sight of the original intention - to entertain children. I liked both of Tim Story's FANTASTIC FOUR movies. They're about teamwork and heroism and family dynamics and all that stuff. All that KIDS' STUFF.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/169237-fox-has-shot-8-minutes-of-deadpool-test-footage If it is what they say it is, I'll take. But if the milk turns out to be sour, I ain't the kind of pussy to drink it.
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Burton had nothing to do with the Corman Fantastic Four.
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A load of shite...
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I've never heard of that site before. A link to the alleged quote would be nice. At any rate, it's an old joke that was started with the original Scorpion King, and has just been extended each time. But a 14 year old troll wouldn't know that, would he? You know...with being in diapers during the original and all.
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The ones you listed are considered Bronze Age starting in 1970. The FF (and most of the StanLee,Kirby,Ditko Marvel stuff) is Silver Age from around 1956-1970. The Golden Age is from 1930-1950 and is mostly Superman Batman and WW2 CaptAmerica, really old stuff like that.
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looks just like The Thing. They should get him. Oh he's dead? Nevermind.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST
I hope we finally get a great FF movie, there's so much storyto draw from. It boggles my mind how amazingly they fucked up FF1 and 2! Doctor Doom is such an awesome bad guy, he should be like Vader!
by cameron
the Fantastic Four could be such a good franchise if some effort was put in. Also i'd like to have an awesome Human Torch so Evans can fail in the gay avengers & the FF movie wins big! FF wish list: Mr Fantastic - Guy Pearce Sue Storm - Charlize Theron human Torch - Justin Hartley The Thing/Ben - Gerard Butler Dr Doom - Daniel Day Lewis
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1.they killed him. (for the time being) 2.they put a chick in his place. 3.the spaceknights are not cyborgs now.they just wear an armor ala Iron Man. Fuck Marvel.Fantastic Four have a better chance with Sony rather than Marvel.or have you already forgotten the Iron Man 2 fiasco.?
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are the libraries of material that have never been adapted ONCE. I guess the young execs only frame of reference, visa vi science fiction and fantasy is movies, television and comic they read in the 90's.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST
FF4 has always sucked, pick a good one instrad, say Martial Law!
by clarntoon
Why reboot a fail when there is so much good yet to be tspped!?
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make it look like Down with Love meets Kirby and have Brad Bird direct
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I'm with "fustfick." It's for kids to start with. Goldblum would have been great as Reed years ago, but he's a little old for the role now. Besides, I have young Goldblum playing Rincewind in my fantasy lineups. For the Thing? Andy Serkis in CGI. Who else? Who cares who plays Ben in human form?
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Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer to script and conceptualize/production design.
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Goldblum & Watts would actually be kind of perfect. Gary Sinise or Robert Patrick are still my top 2 Reed Richards choices though.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
FF was my favorite comic when I was a kid
by In Action Man Reborn Requiem
I hope the writer and director understand that the The Thing is the heart and soul of Fantastic Four. The Thing's origin story reads more like that of a super villain. His three friends get cool super powers but, still look perfectly normal. The Thing becomes one of the strongest characters in the Marvel Universe but, is horribly disfigured in the process. The Thing is initially shunned and feared but, with the help of his friends he becomes a hero. That's the core of your story right there. After that you build some action set pieces around your core story. And make sure your villain has a point of view where the audience might even sympathize with him a little (remember the citizens of Latvaria loved Dr. Doom because he kept their tiny Eastern European nation free from Soviet domination during the cold war.) Please Fox don't fuck this up.
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They illustrate the problem with superhero teams. So many of these cast lists of the FF and a super villain antagonist would be too expensive. Remember that most of the budget has to be spent on CGI & SFX. Five A list actors isn't going to be possible unless it is guaranteed to gross hundreds of millions. Which most superhero films aren't, especially as the audience is saturated with them.
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Trying to move past the "old nerds living in their mom's basement" vs. "vapid apologists who will love anything" debate a bit, I think the real problem with the new Trek, for me, was that unlike the original series it was based upon, it wasn't really about anything. Old Trek, at it's finest, anyway, tried to explore social, political and personal issues in a creative, entertaining way. It didn't always work, but there was at the very least, an attempt and for many of us that was the core appeal. New Trek just sort of sailed along; slick, often well acted and action packed, but with no real heart. I didn't feel invested in anything the characters did because they hurtled from one 'big moment' to the next, and worse, there was no overriding theme to sink my teeth into. Not a horrible movie, really (though plagued by some poor scripting choices, for sure), just nothing like the series it was supposedly based upon. I mean, if you aren't gonig to try to capture the heart of the source material, what's the point?
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. . . want to thank everyone here who got my hopes up. What a let down. Corny. Rushed at the beginning. WTF, a bay-area ape prison? If it had been R rated w/ the apes not giving two shits about killing humans, I might have overlooked all the lameness. Also, I was let down to find out one of my favorite hotties, Freida Pinto, can't act worth a crap.
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Might make a good Ben. Definitely has the acting and comedic chops and the loveable-lug thing down. But he's so ugly that it kinda takes the sting out of being transformed. But I could see Reilly doing a good job. Also Bobby Cannavale, Joel Edgerton, or maybe Ray Stevenson... Before 'Punisher' he was good as Titus Pullo. AND VIGGO FOR DOOOOOOM!!!
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I like Michael Chiklis, but it was ridiculous to have The Thing shorter than everyone else... They need a CGI Thing that they spend some time and money on - get freaking WETA and Andy Sirkis - thank you.
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I'm actually not surprised that Fox is making Trank's hire contingent on the performance of CHRONICLE. Given how scared and cheap all the studios are these days, the executives are just hedging their bets. If Chronicle does well, then they can brag that they got this hot new genius director for cheap. If his Fantastic Four then ends up being a bomb, the executive in charge of hiring the director can say "hey, his last film did really well. It was a good bet". The executive then keeps his job while Trank goes to movie jail. Of course, if Chronicle fails, this same executive can then jettison Trank and claim they've missed a bullet. So it goes.
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I recently saw it again and it was actually quite good compared to some of the more recent superhero shit I've seen -- including the Fantastic Four movies. They actually did a good job respecting the source material. Colin Farrell was great as Bullseye, and I actually thought Jennifer Garner did a good job as Elektra. And, unlike some KKK asshole fanboys, I had no problem at all with Michael Clark Duncan as the Kingpin. There's a reason they made Elektra. Although that movie sucked, I hope that Marvel got back the rights to Daredevl, and can use him again. I always loved that character.
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Sam Worthington as Reed Richards Kate Upton as Sue Storm keanu Reeves as Dr. Doom Justin Beiber as Johnny Storm Snookie as Ben Grimm
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With a cameo by the Fantastic Four. Doom was always a very shakespearean, tragic villain in many ways. He's the best villain in the entire Marvel Universe, and it was an incredible crime the way Tim Story ruined him. He should not be a rival scientist to Reed Richards in the smarmy, US douchebag sense. There is a massive amount of back story and plot twists for Doom, including the use of Diplomatic immunity to avoid US prosecution, etc.
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I mean, seriously Tim Story -- how in the hell can anyone ruin the single best Marvel Comics storyline of all-time: The coming of Galactus and the Silver Surfer? I should think that was completely idiot proof. Just putting a kick ass CGI Silver Surfer on screen for the first time in cinema history should have been enough. But, you had to go and fuck it all up.
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He'd knock it out of the fucking park. And, you cannot play Reed Richards for laughs like he's a nerdy socially inept moron. He has to be played by an intelligent actor with Gravitas. If Tom Hanks were younger he'd be perfect. You have to trust him, and believe he's the smartest man on the planet. Someone like Viggo Mortensen has to play him. Sue Storm can be just about any pretty starlet, of the correct age. Chris Evans was great as Johnny, but you obviously can't use him for this part any longer.
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And cast the rest accordingly. The Thing needs to be CGI. FF1 was weak sauce but ROTSS was pretty cool. FF deserves a reboot.
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Sorry, Millennials, you're just not as talented as your parents tell you you are. Do this right, Fox, or don't do it at all.
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Jan. 14, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
so this is gonna be some shit balls low budget cash grab
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
like the Spiderman reboot? Fuck this shit. I blame all you faggots that complained about Spiderman 3 for this low budget shit.
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'Nuff said.
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Comic book movies don't do much for me, but I've always been fascinated by supervillains. Doom is one of the best. I'd love to see a straight biopic of Doom's life story. Keep the heroes in the background.
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I was in a rush to get the Netflix DVD to the mailman - did I miss something in the closing credits???????? I enjoyed the film, but the trailer basically covered the entire plot. See the trailer, and you have a perfect summary of the whole movie. Not a good thing. No surprises. Twelve years ago, I read the pre-Burton "Apes" script that was circulating...it was quite bad. As was the Ahnold's "I Am Legend". I think AICN linked to both at the time. The 1994 era "Godzilla" script was better than the eventual film, however...
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Totally missed that, but made the assumption from the film itself. God, there is nothing more torturous, than watching a YouTube clip with a bunch of nerds blabbering in the background...
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Jan. 14, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
PLEASE KEEP AKIVA GOLDSMAN AWAY FROM OUR COMICS MOVIES
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I mean, dear GOD. Who is that guy related to? Fuck off, Hollywood
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There is NO other acceptable option.
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I believe it was a toy first that Marvel then licensed off of Parker Brothers.
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what we need is a great director and producers who are not yes men.....I want a good physical actor as Dr. Doom and Gary Oldmen for the voice. A heart to the movie. We are all the studios afraid of a elite director? I know they are trying Joss but I wish he was not the benchmark.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 1:49 a.m. CST
@k-gin that's correct.ROM was a toy and Marvel was hired to write a comic
by KilliK
about it in order to promote it.The toy ended up a commercial failure but the comic was a hit which eventually led ROM to officially become part of the M universe.now that's ironic.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 1:53 a.m. CST
@maxcherry i dont disagree but on the other hand it was Marvel
by KilliK
who insisted on releasing the sequel in such short time. (only one year later after the original).Favreau wanted more time to develop a proper script but ofc Marvel didnt listen to him. I blame both Marvel,Favreus and also RDJ (he brought his own script writers from another movie he had made) for the IM2 fiasco but mostly Marvel because at the end of the day they are the bosses who control things.
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Paul Giamatti as Mole Man. Fuck all the other FF villains - Mole Man is the only one that matters.
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is shorter than Reed - just look at any Kirby FF book - the only ones that matter - so quit bitching about his height in the movies. I think a CGI Thing could work, but they need to really up the budget - after all they could not do a decent Reed stretch effect and that was only in a few shots, how are they going to afford an all digital character with the screen time the Thing requires? The make-up in the others was almost there, a few alterations and a little digital enhancements and it would have been perfect. Tom Hanks should direct the reboot - he's a huge Marvel fan and has the necessary FX background.
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was Tim Story's choice for Mole Man, too! And Gary Oldman for the Wizard...
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Jan. 15, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST
lisab if you are gonna troll you're supposed to hide it better
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Otherwise you're just an amateur. Fail troll. You know what the kid's say, "fail troll is fail." You tell us to "look at the first half of the trailer." OK! Let's! 1. Dude gets wacked in the face with a toy, then knocked through some shelves. 2. Girl is tormented by stuffed bear controlled by an invisible man. 3. Black guy moves a car in a parking lot. A woman returns to find her car missing. (They had no knowledge of who owned the car, it was a random person) Alright, that's the first half. Now lets see the second half. 1. Redneck MAN driving a truck is MURDERED
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Jan. 15, 2012, 2:29 a.m. CST
Avengers without Wasp and Henry Pym is just a bunch of superheroes.
by disastermag
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Jan. 15, 2012, 4:30 a.m. CST
No more Dr.Doom please - let's have a proper 200ft Galactus pissing on the Baxter Building!
by marineboy
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Yea i'm talking to you, posters. You're bypassing these morons choosing a fucking midget of a director and go right into the casting. That's why we're getting shitty super-hero movies because you fools will accept anything.
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Bruce Greenwood would be an awesome Mr. Fantastic, or Guy Pearce! And go fuck yourself!
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It's the story of the first family of the Marvel universe, the place where many of the most enduring concepts originated and the book that introduced large scale, 'cosmic' storytelling (the Watcher, Galactus, Silver Surfer, the Inhumans, the Negative Zone, Counter Earth, Adam Warlock, etc.) to the medium. An FF movie should be like James Cameron on steroids: big concepts, larger than life characters incredible action and special effects that break the mold. Instead, however, the studio keeps turning to small time directors, unknown casts and tiny budgets. A complete misunderstanding of the concept.
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I thought the first was a solid "B". Great casting, and they got the relationships between the characters just right. They did f up Doctor Doom pretty badly, and the origin too. The action scenes were another major flaw. #2 just blew. Galactus as a giant cloud just doesn't do it for me, and once again, they really misinterpreted Doom. They need to do some major space exploration in the third one/reboot, maybe head to the Negative Zone. PLEASE not another origin story.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST
FOX makes terrible, generic films. apes and x men were both mediocre
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
they were just "cool" because they were apes and x men films- not because they actually lived up to their potential. Fox is mediocre, and happy to be.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
and yes, FF should be marvels jewel- epic Sci Fi stuff
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
but, nobody gets it at Fox. DICK HEADS.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
we all know how this movie will end, with Mr Fantastic..
by TheManWhoCan
talking to commisoner gordon on a roof of the Baxter building where who hands him a card, "calls himself the Doctor Doom!"<p>Mr F "Ill look into it" and leaps from the building< que music "score" Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun groan
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Jan. 15, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST
Can't wait to see the origin story again, 3rd times the charm
by Mace Tofu
They have to do the origin again so people don't get confused like they do with the Bond movies. Whos that new guy? he don't look like Roger Moore.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST
The Thing should be CGI.....not a man in an unconvincing rubber suit.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Good cgi though...not some SyFy channel horseshit attempt at cgi.
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And maybe 1 other F4 villain.
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The last thing I want to see is a film about teenagers.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
If Tom Hanks is a Marvel Fan -- CAST HIM AS REED RICHARDS!
by Hesiod2k7
That's a frigging no brainer.
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Nothing is beneath me!
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Jan. 15, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
creepythinmanlives, just about all comic book plot lines are butt ass stupid.
by Hesiod2k7
A wealthy kid sees his parents murdered my a street criminal. So, he decides to study martial arts and science for 20 years, and then dresses up as a fucking bat to go and fight street crime in Gotham city -- using his wealth to build super crime fighting technology rather than, you know, running for mayor and hiring 1000 more police officers to patrol the streets. C'mon, man.
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Oh, that's right. AICN doesn't have enough backbone to do script reviews anymore. Even ones for undeveloped scripts. CHRONICLE looks like same-old-same-old; Great concept, but amateurish. But, the fanboys will make excuses for anything, so, it doesn't matter what happens. Remember, you're not a true lover of film, or just a decent human being, unless you accept anything that Hollywood churns out. So, be positive!
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At the rate they're pumping these out, they're obviously under the distinct impression that the general public is inhibited by chronic short-term memory loss. It's gotten pretty pathetic. They can't possibly expect to find a brand new audience for their shit every few years. Hollywood never fails to show their true colors... every time.
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If Dr Doom is in it, he isnt a handsome bugger underneath the mask, he's all burned up and uglified from the explosion when he tried to replicate what happened to the four.
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Jan. 15, 2012, 9:08 p.m. CST
Not really worried about the director as I am about...
by BurnedNotice_Dude
having a great script and the casting.
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Let's see, who should we cast in the role of of Sue Storm? she's always been portrayed as a blue-eyed caucasian blonde woman, I know! let's cast Jessica Alba, a dark-haired latina that doesn't resemble the character at all! Stupid casting. The Thing better be a mo-cap character now. Let Chiklis do the voice, that part is fine, the physical appearance? not so much. Chris Evans was great as Johnny Storm. I would find someone else to play Mr. Fantastic. Finally, Dr. Doom. He just came across as a greedy megalomaniac douchebag. Doom's motives aren't always to be evil for the fun of it, he wants to make the world a better place with him leading it. He's a misunderstood bad guy, someone like Ralph Fiennes would be great for him.
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Jan. 16, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST
Ralph Fiennes as Victor Von Doom is actually a good choice.
by Hesiod2k7
Of course, he already played a similar character in Voldemort. (JK Rowling "borrowed" a lot of charatcreizations and plot devices from other places). Dom is a tortured genius, who wants to take over the world and gain enormous power so that he can run the world. he wants to do so because he thinks he can run it better than the idiots and fools who do it now. Not just because he wants power. He wants power for an end. He's a very complex personality. Plus, he's not just a Villain. He's also a head of state.
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I think she did fine in the role. It;s not like Sue Storm is that well-developed a character in the first place. The key casting for the original movie had to be Ben Grimm, Reed Richards and Victor Von Doom. I think Gruffud was OK as Richards, but played him too much for comedy. Not sure if that was his choice or the way he was written. You have to believe that Reed Richards is the smartest man on the Planet. He has to radiate competence. Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm are there for comedic effect. Not Reed Richards. He has to be the grownup in the room. What I did have a problem with is majubg Sue an accomplished scientists in her own right. If that's the case (and I recognize they have to update the characters for modern times, somewhat) then casting Alba was a mistake because she's too young to play someone who's got a PhD and who has been working in academia for enough years to garner a good reputation. I probably would have made Sue an accomplished musician or an actress, or something, where she has a career, and is well-known, but is not helping Reed in the lab. Also, the powers they all received (as conceived by Lee and Kirby) were supposed to be partly a reflection of their personalities.
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Jan. 16, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST
I hate when people complain about the 2005 and 2007 Fantastic Four movies
by TheFifthCylon
They were really good. I find that people who bitch about them don't actually get the Fantastic Four. Those movies nailed it. The FF is the family sitcom of the Marvel universe. I always hear people complain that the movies were too 'goofy' and 'not dark enough'. DUH. That's the Fantastic Four. It's not Batman. The FF has always been my favorite Marvel comic, and the two movies got the tone just right. And you'll never top that casting. Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis were Johnny and Ben to perfection, as if they'd just stepped of the page. It annoys me that we're getting a reboot just because a lof of non-FF fans didn't like two movies that captured the FF so perfectly.
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...had a great idea! And at the very least, Hanks' involvement would bring other top name writers, actors and a name director to the film.
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he has the visual effects background, That Thing You Do was very good, and he's a Marvel fan - referencing both Black Bolt and Thor while promoting TTYD and Earth to the Moon...
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I'm assuming you're trolling. The light tone of the FF movies was not the problem. Doom was pissed on, Alba as Sue was terrible, Chiklis was a great choice for Ben but he looked ridiculous as the Thing. The only way the FF will ever be good is if Marvel Studios takes some of their billions of "Avengers" dollars and buys Fox out.
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Yes, the movie is about getting footage on a hand held camera, but, it also means if this guy gets FANTASTIC FOUR, we've got yet another shakey cam superhero film. Is Hollywood really so clueless that they just hire someone for a superhero property just because they've done a movie about people with superpowers? Do they really just want someone who they can command around? Fuck this.
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I agree with ya bud. In fact, more interesting to me is, choosing writers and directors that have had success on one type of film and seeing what they could do with another, changing genres or whatever.....just to shake things up. Let's remember that before Superman, Richard Donner was the director of The Omen and Inside Moves (a character 'dramedy'), while Christopher Nolan had two smaller suspense thrillers under his belt before Batman Begins. For example, after Nolan leaves the Bat-Movies, I think a PERFECT candidate to pass the baton to is Tomas Alfredson, the director of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Let the Right One In---not a superhero flick between the two, but boy, does the guy have pacing, action, tone and getting good performances from his actors in a 'big machine' type of movie, down pat. For an FF movie? I'll get blasted for this, but honestly this has 'Chris Columbus' written all over it. For a smaller director, Jason Reitman.
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Tim Story did a good job with Barbershop, but that did not really translate well to the FF... Who would have guessed that the director of ELF would have made a good super hero movie? It's all a crap shoot, but I do wish they would look for a more seasoned director for the FF ~ it's a tricky property to do correctly.
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I agree, I really hope this Trank guy has chops, but I don't like the 'shaky-cam' aesthetic attached in any way to FF. You need someone who is a real visual stylist, someone who can convey SCOPE. The FF cannot be done 'small'. Peter Jackson, whatever his flaws, is someone who proved, even before LOTR, that he could squeeze a lot of movie out of a modest budget. It's anyone's guess if Trank can grasp the aesthetic necessary to pull off FF. Unlike the first X-Men, I don't think you can do a 'small' first chapter and then follow up with something more epic like X2. The problem with FF is that it really demands a Speilberg-level commitment to even get off the ground.
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Yeah, you heard me! Bronze Age goodness, them Micronauts were! I read it as a kid and thought it would be a great movie. A STAR WARS-like struggle going on in a parallel universe that spills over into ours...only when they get here, the warriors are all about 5 inches tall. I know it sounds silly, but just check out the books. They could have great battles on earth, with small spaceships blowing through windows and strafing back yards. Then have one earth person be taken back to the Microverse so he can see the titanic struggle for good and evil taking place. Man, Michael Golden was a MASTER artist. His designs (modified from the toys) were awesome. Acroyear has the coolest helmet in the Marvel Universe. Yeah, you heard me. I'd love to see the sword fight between Acroyear and his evil brother Shaitan. I'd love to see the fighting centaurs, Force Commander and Baron Karza beat the shit out of each other. I'd love to see some hottie actress play Marionette in her one-piece bathing suit outfit with thigh-high boots (yeah baby!) Oh, if I were a studio head... Okay, rant over. Carry on.
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Jan. 18, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST
To make a good FF film you need THE THING to be an amazing motion capture performance rendered to dazzling effect.
by the Green Gargantua
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Jan. 18, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
blue_demon , jj abrams may be doing Mirconauts, but it is not confirmed which series it is..
by the Green Gargantua
It may not even be the Marvel Micronauts, there was an unrelated 70s scifi book Frazetta did a cover for it..
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