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Is TV’s SHERLOCK Playing Harry Mudd In J.J. Abrams' Next STAR TREK??

I am – Hercules!!

Deadline Hollywood reports exclusively that the fellow who plays Smaug The Dragon in the "Hobbit” movies will also be a cast member of the next “Star Trek” movie.

Benedict Cumberbatch appears to be everywhere these days. He’s on the big screen in “Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy” and “War Horse” and he’s on the small screen playing the title role in the BBC’s “Sherlock.”

No word on who Cumberbatch plays.  Is the world ready for a skinny Harry Mudd?

He’s terrific in “Sherlock.” I’ve not seen the movies.

Peter Weller ("Star Trek: Enterprise"), Alice Eve ("She's Out Of My League") and Noel Clarke ("Doctor Who") are also aboard for the next Trek.

Though J.J. Abrams did not end up taking a writing credit on the last “Star Trek” he directed, he is credited alongside Bob Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof on the new one.

The latest adventures of Kirk, Spock and company finally arrive May 2013.

No word on a title, but I have my fingers crossed for "Star Trek XII: The Horta Way."

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  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST

    just get on with it already

    by j2talk

    how much longer are they going to drag this out...

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Good news Id say. Oh.. ahem... FIRST!

    by dahveed1972

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST


    by dahveed1972

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST


    by Musicman247

    Great News! But: "Though J.J. Abrams did not taking a writing credit "? What is up with not checking the grammar, Herc?

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah he's great as Face in The A-Team.

    by Mugato5150

    Wait, what? They're still trying to do Star Trek movies? Okay. Good luck with that.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    And of course he plays... KAHN

    by Ed

    had to do it :)

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Bob Orci, Alex Kurtzman, please go the fuck away

    by sunwukong86

  • My brain just exploded into little pieces on the floor.

  • This dude was terrific in TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY. Now let's see what kind of 'stache this guy can grow.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Dr. Phil for Harry Mudd

    by mjw

    The most obvious casting choice ever.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Benedict Cumberbatch will play.... T'Pau!

    by rakesh patel

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST

    did not taking a writing credit

    by matthooper8

    Was this article proof read by a retarded monkey? I go taking a dump now...or a writing credit.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Was hoping he'd keep the schedule open to step into the role of THE Doctor. (if and when such a time comes... Smith is fantastic) I just know he's been quoted when asked if he'd like to be a guest star on Doctor Who he's said he would NOT like to be a GUEST on Doctor Who. Emphasis on GUEST.... as in he wants to be THE Doctor.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    More Jar Jar hype for his refreid beans.

    by justmyluck

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by justmyluck

    Let's all start lining up for tickets.

  • which means it will suck nevertheless.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Herc, still didn't fix he "direceted"

    by matthooper8

    unless direceted means something I don't know.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Benecol Cunnypunch to star in

    by buggerbugger

    remake of 'Face/Off' with Matt Smith and Michael Shannon. All three of them have their faces surgically removed and... thrown in the nearest medical waste bin. Script ends.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST

    That surname is just ripe for dirty puns.

    by themikejonas

    I'm all for Star Trek II/XII being The Wrath of Mudd. Anything but another Khan retread.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Definition of 'direceted':

    by buggerbugger

    To defecate in the direction of film-goers, spraying them liberally with a steady, heavy flow of liquid shit while they open their mouths for more. Something like that, anyway.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Way to go for Cumberbatch if this pans out.

    by elgato73

    He makes Downey Jr.'s Sherlock look like a fucking dipshit too.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by Mennen

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Awesome Actor..

    by scrapplejoe

    total talent..

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Yeah, he looks like a vulcan... He'll play a vulcan.

    by mistergreen

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Kind of young and skinny for Harry Mudd.

    by Phategod2

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Wait, both Mudd and Kahn are in this?

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Mudd's women get some of Kahn's space seed? WTF?

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    A Vulcan, obviously... also

    by johndalf greymane

    "direceted" (deer-i-seeted) To sit on one's ass while others do the work. Derived from the french "derrier" and the latin "to sit".

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    A Vulcan, obviously... also

    by johndalf greymane

    "direceted" (deer-i-seeted) To sit on one's ass while others do the work. Derived from the french "derrier" and the latin "to sit".

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    A Vulcan, obviously... also

    by johndalf greymane

    "direceted" (deer-i-seeted) To sit on one's ass while others do the work. Derived from the french "derrier" and the latin "to sit".

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST

    mistergreen read my mind

    by Dasinfogod

    Dude looks like a Vulcan already. Minimal makeup required... My vote is that he'll be playing Surak.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    wowee! 3xpost

    by johndalf greymane

  • That damned Kelvin really was the Hand of Destiny. SHERLOCK is outstanding, especially because by all known laws of entertainment and even mathematics, it should suck. And Cumberbach is great in it. I recently read an excerpt from an interview where he complained about being typecast as "posh" because of his posh upbringing. As an American, I don't think I have the appropriate cultural baggage to typecast him appropriately. To wit, I'd have a no problem if he were to appear as "Bert the Chimney Sweep" in the next version of Mary Poppins, and I'm sure Bert wasn't posh. And finally, I think if he were Doctor Who, that would be WAY too on-the-nose. I mean, come on -- he's ALREADY playing a mysterious genius with a sidekick who struggles to keep up. Doctor Who would just be more of the same.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST

    FOUR Sherlocks, CTM?

    by WhatTheHellHappenedToMe

    I've only seen the first three! FACT! Where can I find the fourth?

  • What is up with the 'do? I just don't know if I can sit through multiple episodes of that. :)

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by WhatTheHellHappenedToMe

    His hair works perfectly for the "If you weren't so worried about my hair, you might have noticed that this window is locked from the outside" character he plays.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Anyone who can't spell "Khan" should be banned for life...


    ...and have their geek privileges revoked (esp. as it's been pretty much confirmed that Khan's not in the film). But Cumberbatch = awesomeness.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST

    P.S.: Doctor Who's Noel Clarke has also been cast


  • Jan. 4, 2012, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Gary Seven

    by AaronSch

    He will be playing Gary Seven. Featured in the last episode of the second season of the original Star Trek television series, "Assignment: Earth," the character, originally portrayed by actor Robert Lansing was a human who lived on Earth but who worked for the inhabitants of another planet. The character was also used in subsequent novelizations in which he had numerous dealings with Khan Noonien Singh. The character will be introduced in order to create a spin-off franchise for Paramount and J.J. Abrams. Trust me.

  • Jan. 4, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    P.P.S.: Cumberbatch is confirmed as the villain...


    ...and it's the same role both Edgar Ramirez and Benicio del Toro were up for previously.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, midnight CST Mickey the Idiot is going to be in ST2?

    by KilliK

    are you fucking kidding me? who is going to play? a black redshirt who keeps getting saved by Kirk in the same fashion that it happened in Dr Who?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST

    i fucking CALLED the last sequel talk back

    by gk1

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST

    No word on who Cumberbatch plays.

    by Bass Ackwards

    Yet for some reason the article and the headline randomly decide to suggest he's playing Mudd?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    He is playing Khan FFS.

    by KilliK

    is it not already obvious?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Where the fuck is Asimov and Orci?

    by conspiracy

    These Trek Talkbacks just are not the same without the sparks of that online love affair. Orci is working...if you can call anything in the business "Working", but Asi has no excuse for not being here lighting up the interweb

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:33 a.m. CST

    bass ackwards...YOu must be new here?

    by conspiracy

    Hyperbolic exaggeration is the bedrock that AICN journalism is built upon.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Since they brought Weller back...

    by DougMcKenzie

    and it seems he might be playing his Enterprise John Paxton role as a Human supremacist, I would venture BC is going to be playing a counter Vulcan supremacist who might be plotting to take over Earth after Vulcan was destroyed.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Conspiracy Orci is fake.

    by KilliK

    it has been confirmed by the real Orci.

  • Maybe JJ saw his Sherlock performance,as a calculative genius who follows facts and cold logic and decided that he would have been perfect to play an emotionless Vulcan. Maybe he is going to play Spock's brother?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Killik...The same Orci on Twitter?

    by conspiracy

    If that Orci is a fake he has his own sister and father duped; and that Orci has been here.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:01 a.m. CST

    I would love it if he played Sybok...

    by Mattman

    The Final Frontier story had a lot of potential... but the execution was terrible. But all this speculation is probably for naught, because in the end they'll probably go with a brand new villain.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST


    by mackmm

    judging from his hair

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST

    Four years is TOO GODDAMN LONG TO WAIT

    by SmokingRobot

    for new Trek. Please take this away from J.J. and give it to someone who wants to do a new tv series.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST


    by ToughGuyRizzo

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Noel Clarke????


    I guess they want even more people who can't act because the first didn't have enough.

  • I just wish he wasn't playing a young Palpatine who grows up to be good because he never trains Luke Pike to be Darth Surak.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Well, I won't be watching it.

    by V'Shael

    Having hated the last one, and never liking the character of Harry Mudd in the first place, I think this officially kills the movie franchise for me, in the way that Voyager killed the TV show for me. It's dead Jim.

  • Phasers on target

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST

    I am officially psyched by this news. Also, Noel Clarke..

    by Nerfee

    is a good guy and I'm glad to see him making inroads in Hollywood.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Harry Mudd?

    by JamesT

    He looks more like a young Ben Cross. Please no more time travel stuff. Has anyone noticed that Shatner appears to have lost a decent amount of weight? Cameo?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST

    Is this a new hilarious AICN 'joke'?

    by Samson_K

    Whenever you find out about casting you just pull another Trek Character name out of a hat and joke that the actor is possibly playing the character? Because if it is - stop it - you're upsetting the kids. Cumberbatch is very good though and IF they were going down the route of reimagining some of the original episodes he would make an interesting Gary Mitchell but I doubt that this will be a remake of any particular episode - though Gary Mitchell is one character that I think has potential.

  • Sherlock is truly inspiring television. The last episode was better than most films released this year, hairstandinguponthebackofyourneckgoodness.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST

    Rise of a good actor

    by The Fuck

    this makes me happy

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:21 a.m. CST

    by pw

    Benedict Cumberbatch is way too talented and wanted for better roles than Dr Who,Matt Smith and all that shite Amy Pond bollocks has killed it for me,I don't think any actor,male or female,black or white will be touching Dr Who for a while.As for Benedict Cumberbatch in Star Trek it has to be a captains role,as all British actors with his talent are suited to that in Star Trek

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:22 a.m. CST

    This guy is an amazing actor

    by CuervoJones

    I respect him.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Where have you got Harry Mudd from??

    by paint163

    Have you just made that up??

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Could BC be playing the younger version of...

    by Master Bruce

    a certain bald Captain of another Enterprise? Make it so!

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:05 a.m. CST

    this dude might not be Mudd

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    No word on who Cumberbatch plays. Is the world ready for a skinny Harry Mudd?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST

    He should be Gaiman's Morpheus

    by Monolith_Jones

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Not Khan. Not Mudd. He's playing...

    by KelseysNuts

    ...Finnegan in a feature length version of 'Shore Leave.'

  • Well, at least it will believable why Harry Mudd can get so many women do his bidding. I mean, it's Benedict Cumberbatch. His voice alone makes all the women who have not swore undying fidelity to Sean Bean get totally in Cumberbatch's mercy. His female fans call themselves the Cumberbitches. No kidding!

  • I find it fascinating that it takes 4 guys to write a Star Trek story. This cunts, it takes them 4 of them to write one movie. Amazing!! I wonder how they divide the workload. Do they divide it by scenes or actions or characters? One writes the action scenes, the other the dialogue scenes, the other the toilet scenes, etc? I never ceases to amazing me on how many bad writers it take to write for one movie. small wonder this movies look so ungainly and incoherent, as if writen by comité. Which they are.

  • And yes, that's scarcams, you JarJarHeads.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    That means you spent the whole night watching the 4 episodes of SHERLOCK, since each lasts 90 minutes.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:17 a.m. CST

    six hours at the very least, without intervals.

    by AsimovLives

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST

    The One where Khan a tribble...

    by ChakaMudd

    Come on! Who doesn't want to see Khan lounging with a few tribble buddies, sipping Tiki drinks... hmmm... perhaps genetically enhanced Tribbles with fancy braids are in order????

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    "Mudd" is a bad joke-- how about an evil vulcan?

    by chifforobe

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Hello, CHARLIE X???

    by jspidey2k


  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST


    by Mike Holdbrook

    ....Cumberbatch is going to be playing a Romulan (He's too skinny to be Harry Mudd, Khan, Klingon, etc,) and Clarke will be a cadet that gets killed in the first 10 minutes...Cool.

  • There you have it...

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Professor Lensçais Flareia.

    by vulturess

    they should really just try to come up with a new/original/good/memorable star trek story.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Just what we need, a skinny 20 something Harry Mudd

    by MrShootist

    Harry Mudd is fat and late middle aged.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Cumberbatch as Trelane?

    by SpyGuy

    There was this rumor on Badass News back in October of 2010 with the obligatory anonymous "source" that claimed "It’s definitely a character that will make fans of TOS excited. Think along the lines of Harry Mudd or Trelane or Gary Mitchell or the Talosians or the Horta. Actually it’s one of those that I named." Mudd makes little sense for Cumberbatch and the Gary Mitchell storyline was recently updated in the STAR TREK ongoing comic series from IDW Publishing, so if that old rumor actually turns to be legit, maybe Cumberbatch is Trelane?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    as long as

    by Himbo

    the ending solution IS a big explosion... rather than in old boring Star Trek, where there is a big explosion that is a by-product of the thought-out solution. Good Lord. I think I'd rather watch the Whales again.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST

    35 is twenty-something?

    by bah

    AICN talkbackers must be getting old. They see these mid-30s actors and think they're in their 20s (see also: the guy who's playing Q. The Bond Q, not the Trek Q)

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST


    by wcgilb

    Huge Trek fan but Mudd is the most annoying Trek character of the franchise. I really hope that this is just a bad rumor.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    How fucking hard is it

    by Keith learn how to spell the name "Khan"? It's FOUR FUCKING LETTERS. K H A N People who continue to write "Kahn" are bafflingly retarded. I mean, do you also write "Jhon" and "Pual" on a frequent basis? Fuck me ragged.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Oh, please write something original already....

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...and enough with the retreads. I don't want another re-imagining, unless I get to imagine that this never gets made.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Cumberpatch is playing the Borg Queen

    by photoboy

    I've no idea who Cumberpatch is playing, but he's a very talented actor so the idiots they've got shitting out the script can rely on him to make the drivel sound good.

  • I like that, and I like him. Cocky is good.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    and he will play Sybok

    by proevad

    you've been warned.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST


    by proevad


  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Fuck Star Trek, Cumberbatch was born to pay

    by RainesMaker

    Spike in Cowboy Bebop.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    If Super 8 had been a bigger hit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    there's no way Abrams would have directed Star Trek 2 as his next gig.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    kwis -- you know NOTHIING!

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST


    by Boborci

  • I'd like him to play a rival Vulcan if he is in Star Trek. Benedicts aloofness and cool English charm makes him a shoe in to verbally Bitch slap Spock and become the Alpha Vulcan.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    It is the real Bob Orci

    by Stabby

    Of course, he is going to say that it's not him. He doesn't want anything he may say here to come back to haunt him. He gets to have his cake and eat it too. In fact, the only reason he hasn't been here lately is probably because his agent told him not to.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Though aicn boborci is written by Roberto Orci

    by Boborci

    the views expressed by boborci are meant to represent a "talkback" character whose views do not necessarily represent the views of Roberto Orci. So when I tell you to go fuck yourselves, it is only for entertainment purposes. So go fuck yourselves.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Jack Black

    by angelopoulos

    born to play Mudd.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    What's up, Bob? AlreadyStar Trek 3 planned?

    by wtriker1701

    Come on, Cumberbatch IS going to play Gary Mitchell, isn't he? No answer would lie an actual answer... ;-)

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Cumberbatch will play.....

    by v3d

    Nurse Chapel.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    wtriker1701 - have no talked about 3 yet!

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    He plays Jeffrey S. Tube.

    by Embeedeuce

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Gary Mitchell, Trelane/Q, or a Vulcan

    by Chewbacca_Khan

    They won't go back to the Romulans so quickly, and if BC is getting a lead role he's perfect for either of the first two. My guess is Gary Mitchell, he's the right age and temperament to play off of Chris Pine as a competing hotshot in Starfleet. Otherwise, I could see them going the route of the Talosian/Pike story and BC is just a secondary starship captain that is ordered to stop Kirk from helping his mentor...yada yada yada.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Data... travels back in time...

    by dj_bollocks

    Yeah..... but no....

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Cumberbatch wil play

    by Stabby

    the weird-assed looking alien in the silver robe at the end of the OS end credits. (Sorry, not a Trekkie, so I don't know what the name of that species is although I should since I owned that action figure when I was a kid.) Sans makeup.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Nowhere does it say he's playing Mudd, its a joke people

    by sunwukong86

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Goddamn it...I fall asleep and go to work and see what I miss!

    by conspiracy

    Ahhhh...the old crew here and happily busting each others's like a family afflicted with Tourette's having a reunion. And Bob...if you are in fact Twitter Bob; it is good too see you understand the larger issues at play here and MUCH respect from this anarchist. Fathers Office...the beer is on me.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Harry Mudd - it's a fail already

    by abe

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST


    by Astronut

    You watch.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Yes, i m twitter b

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Maybe they;'ll being doing a Trek/Dr. Who crossover?

    by Hesiod2k7

    And he'll play the Time Lord? Awww...who cares. As long as he's not playing Kahn. Sounds likely he's playing someone like Trelane or even better -- "Mr. Flynt" from Requiem for Methuselah.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'm betting it's Flynt from Req. for Methuselah

    by Hesiod2k7 Would actually make a pretty damn good movie plot.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    If they want a new Khan...

    by Paste Pot Pete

    ...get Benjamin Bratt. He channels Ricardo Montalban in guest appearances as Javier on "Modern Family." Best thing I've seen him do. Ever.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Han Solo

    by Eric Hines

    has he been cast yet. Why wasnt he in the first star trek

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Callmeeric - because i wanted him for Enders Game.

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Can you believe the MSM coverage Roberto?

    by conspiracy

    "He who can not be named" might as well be invisible. And people say we have a "Free Press" Bought and Sold say I...

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Cumberbatch looks like a British Paul Dano.

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    Maybe the next Star Trek movie will end with Kirk bashing Cumberbatch's head in with a bowling pin.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Do u have to call first to get first or be first post?

    by Gore_monkey

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Will he play an evil Vulcan?

    by TheWrathOfSean

    I can see them going bad after what happened in the last movie. I'd like to see things really diverge from the original, maybe the Vulcans turn into the new Romulans, but worse.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Not a fan of Harry Mudd

    by Jaster Mareel

    Honestly I don't know why so many are. He's fucking annoying.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    stabby - the episode is The Corbomite Maneuver, and that alien is in truth:

    by Damned if I can login

    ...not an alien at all, but a puppet. And I'm not being sarcastic, in the episode it's actually a puppet used to scare the Enterprise crew.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Apollo, or one of his kind perhaps

    by Damned if I can login

    Could be one of the Olympian Gods, ala Who Mourns for Adonis

  • Hmmmm.....

  • I can't believe I just said that....but he could play Mudd.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    I see jack Black as more Cyrano Jones

    by Hesiod2k7

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    conspiracy -- msm

    by Boborci

    totally agree. When arguing with friends, the corruption of the msm is the hardest part for them to believe. Even when you quote former CIA director Colby, who said, ""The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." Or Bernstein's book discussing the same subject.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Trelane sounds cool

    by Rob Hill

    Anyone else ever read "Q Squared"? Q vs. Trelane was a hell of a story, and I've always wanted to see one of the mercurial godlings portrayed on the big screen. Honestly, the biggest question I have for the new Trek Universe is this: What kind of character does this strange new Federation have after the destruction of one of it's charter worlds to a madman with future tech? Can the Federation survive intact with a new race of paranoid nomadic Vulcans? What are the Klingons and Romulans doing in response to what happened? Do the Andorians or Tellerites become a bigger influence in the UFP now? Random things I think about, because I am a geek.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Mark my words-they are doing a movie version of Amok Time

    by Ingeld

    Cumberbatch will play Spock's rival Stan. This will have all the things that they will want in the next movie and which they set up in the first. Conflict with the love between Spock and Uhura. Conflict between Spock and Kirk who acts as the rival to save Spock. It will be filled with character development and help establish the friendship bonds between the trio. The only problem--easily taken care of-- is to have it take place on a different planet than Vulcan. In fact, now that Vulcan is gone it will add to Spock's motivation to marry and reproduce in order to preserve Vulcan identity and heritage. I am betting this is what the movie will be.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    As long as Seth McFarlane doesn't have a cameo, I'm on board

    by Von_Trierstein

    In my star trek universe he is the black hole that sucks the integrity out of everything... although I would still see it anyways.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Benedict Cumberbatch? Yeah, that will fill seats,

    by Brian Hopper

    he said sarcastically.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by Etienne72772

    Why do you torture yourself by coming onto these boards? And, I for one, really liked the last Star Trek. Doesn't anyone have any fun anymore? I guess haters gotta hate. And in what respect did anyone remotely connected to the franchise say anything about cumberbatch playing Mudd, except for the wild speculation making it into the title of this article???

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Vonotar- Q Squared is one of my favorite Trek novels

    by Cartagia

    And was written by a talkback regular, Peter David (no, really!). I just finished series one of Sherlock yesterday, and loved it (except Moriarity, like everyone else). Cumberbatch would be a perfect Vulcan. And as someone above said Deadline reports that he landed the role of the villain. So, my guess, based on the other people who were up for the role, is some sort of Klingon general.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    He's great as Sherlock, so this is cool news.

    by Imagikafan

    I definitely could see him as Trelane or Q, but please keep Harry Mudd out of this series.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    I was in a film with him once....

    by connor187

    Atonement, true story. Good actor, plays a creep really well.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    mrshootist, Cumberbatch is 36/37 years old.

    by AsimovLives

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    have mercy, not everybody in the west is familiar with sikh names and culture.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    I was hoping for the Tribble Queen as the antagonist.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    Get away from her [The Enterprise], you BITCH!

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Tribbles don't need queens, they are the ultimate communists.

    by AsimovLives

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST


    by Joe Damiani

    @themikejonas how can it be "another" retread if there has been only one movie with Khan?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    So excited!

    by SuperTrekkie

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST

    asimovlives -- I take that as a compliment!!!

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Doesn't work for me

    by BDT

    But we'll see. This guy just doesn't come off slimy enough, although he's a fantastic actor....we'll see.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Isn't Spock Gay?

    by pintoman

    He sounds gay. Besides we all know the next trek is about the bar-code scanners on the bridge.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    boborci...It is hard having discussions with anyone anymore...

    by conspiracy

    That Salon piece was one of the best pieces of actual journalism I've read in many years...did you find it off of LR?

  • No fake would post personal pics of another guys one eyed Beagle for fucks sake...unless he had NO life.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy -- i think I found on

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Yup, Spock is gay now.

    by Brian Hopper

    And Scotty has an alien monkey butler. And space is yellow. Thank you, JarJar Abrams.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    is indeed Roberto Orci. He confirmed as much when I met him at Comic Con a few years ago.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Cumberbatch would have made an excellent Spock.

    by KnowItAllFromCali

    Zachary was not a bad choice, but Cumberbatch would have been better. Harry Mudd he is not! I'm sure that was a joke, but what a poor choice of villain.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I'd agree with Spyguy - I see Cummerbatch as Trelane

    by DoctorTom

    He looks like a good replacement for William Campbell in the part. I don't buy Herc's thought of him playing Mudd. I would see getting Nick Frost to play Mudd (or Cyrano Jones).

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    boborci...I know the site, visit as well...

    by conspiracy

    I gotta tell you got a lot of guts taking the position you are in the business you're in...people have been blackballed for less down there. Given the "discussions" in my business world (Finance, Retail...), I can only imagine the arguments with your arguing with Zombies (as it is here) I'd imagine. Real Freedom and Real Peace is a damned hard sell...

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Peter Weller actually playing Buckaroo Banzai in the movie

    by DoctorTom

    well, it would make things interesting.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Oh, if not Trelance, Cummerbatch might be Gary Seven

    by DoctorTom

    it all depends if Abrams wants to continue to play with the time travel elements. Maybe we get Gary Seven AND Buckaroo Banzai, in a story with the Enterprise doing time travel (again).

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    doctortom ans Spyguy..Agreed, he'd make a great Trelane...

    by conspiracy

    and the Q, if indeed Trelane was, would make for a very Trekish story...Less Bang Boom, more Adventure and Discovery.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST


    by moonlightdrive

    This is gonna suck. Very sad news.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I wonder...

    by Rob Hill

    Randomly off-topic, I wonder what a documentary about talkbackers would look like?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST


    by Boborci

    yeah it's pretty bad. The part I really hate, though, is when people say they agree AND DO NOTHING! Not even, simply, open discussions about it with their peers.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Carey Mullighan as Nurse Chapel

    by AsimovLives

    A women of such overwhelming cuteness she can melt the coldest of vulcan hearts with just a smile.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    boborci, you can take it wherever you want

    by AsimovLives

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    conspiracy -- as for my guts

    by Boborci

    I'm about to make a deal with the Empire that will hopefully keep them off my back forever.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST

    conspiracy, but boborci does not have a life!

    by AsimovLives

    only a lunatic withyout a life outside his bedroom walls would want to impersonate one of holyeod's worst hacks. But such people exist and bobbyboy is one of those. boborci being the real deal? the real orci would become a real writer first, and that will never happen a loony impersonating an hack. a festival of sadness.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    *cough*Young Gen. Chang!*cough*

    by Lou Stools

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    boborci...It is because they do not want to get branded...

    by conspiracy

    Lets face it, the propaganda machine has done it's job well; and to take an hard position against or even so much as openly question the prevailing ideology of ones peers and associates takes a bravery most people simply do not have. Nobody likes being branded by the labels readily supplied by the Machine Roberto..., and people in general just want to get by as best they can and watch sports on Sunday while in the back of their closed small minds just hope it all goes away without touching them or their children. Ideological cowardice and apathy is the reason troops were sent into the grinder of WW1, the reason Jews were marched into gas chambers, and the reason liberals in America excuse the NDAA and Conservatives support foreign Intervention...

  • I'm thinking the same thing. i like the casting of Zachary Quinto as Spock, but come to think of it, Benedict Cumberbatch would make an even better spock. he can play great intelligence and aloofness very well and extremely believable. Also, don't forget, he once played Stephen Hawkings in a BBC Tv movie. Think about that.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Here's an interesting thought

    by Rob Hill

    I say that if we get a new Mudd, let it be Bruce Campbell. He's got the humor for it, and I think he'd give the role just enough of the sinister air it requires.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    It would look like the documentary TREKKIES, the one with Denise Crosby as presenter.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by Rob Hill

    I am only following some of what you guys are going on about, but it almost sounds like a Chomsky-like kind of thing. Close?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    untolf european lives were wasted and lost because the americans took their sweet time to go to WWI. Had they hurried up, the war had finished much sooner and with less loss of lives. And the world is fucked up at is is thanks to unchecked actions of the right all over the world. Or you could be right, in that the world is fucked up because the liberals. but for somke woierd ass reason nobody can understand, the americans equate liberal with left-wing, when in fact liberalism is a right winger movement. but that just shows that there is no true left in the USA, all just degrees of right.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    untolf = untold

    by AsimovLives

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    vonotar -- very close, although sadly

    by Boborci

    Chomsky has shown real cowardice on a few important topics in the last decade.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    So Benedict Cumberbatch will get an easy paycheck. good for him.

    by AsimovLives

    one or two weeks daling with hacks, getting lots of money for a short period work, and then back to make quality mterial like SHERLOCK. Smart boy!

  • tall words from a holywood hack who writes the dumbest stupidiest movies made this last ten years.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    vonotar...Sort of, although Chomsky is a lazy Idealogue

    by conspiracy

    and often spews hard, and oddly hypocritical, Socialist points which in the end are at odds with his professed libertarian / Anachist views. The man is a great Linguist but a lazy idealogue. Bob and I, I think, both have a healthy distrust of government in general, although I'm sure we disagree on a number of things. I can't speak for Roberto, but I guess I lean Libertarian, although personally I choose the Anarcho-Capitalist label. We are both to one degree or another Paul supporters in this latest round of "elections", if you want to call them that given the herding of public opinion the Media is doing.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    That's a shame

    by Rob Hill

    Pity, that. Almost makes me wonder if there isn't some Hari Seldon type lurking in the background, using his own equations on how people react for his own amusement.

  • After your claim that Brazil was handed over to the Brazilians without bloodshed, and with the blessing of the Portuguese government (and I'm not talking about the powerless king); I"m of a mind we should stick to talking about film're out of your element here.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    boborci...See what we are up against...^?

    by conspiracy

    It isn't just here in the is world wide. Leviathan has a long long reach.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I sure do.

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by Rob Hill

    When I was 14 or so I was introduced to the works of Robert Heinlein. No other author has influenced how I think about life, love, government, and religion quite as much. I hesitate to apply any labels to what I believe, but they seem to be "Libertarian" when compared to what my peers believe. I tend to think that government candidates should win or lose on their own merits and records, and not what some damn idiot talking head says I SHOULD think, to be a GOOD American. Hah. Call me jaded if you must. Perhaps I just read too much. :P

  • is on AICN right now pretending to have a high-minded discussion about Noam Chomsky.

  • Just sayin'.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    m6y -- even more amusing from where I'm sitting

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    I never really saw it before, but

    by Rob Hill

    Seems to me that some folks here lose sight of what brought us all together here in the first place: a love of film. I'm not going to argue with anyone about definitions of "good" or "bad" writing/directing/film, etc. That way madness lies, it's too subjective. I honestly have yet to find a film I truly despise. I can always find something interesting, and in some cases, downright mind bending about any film you'd care to mention. Too much bickering about details. What happened to enjoying yourself? This is all simply my view, by the way. Take it or leave it. I won't argue it. :P

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    vonotar...Read everything, investigate it all...

    by conspiracy

    come up with your own well reasoned ideology. Even if it differs from mine, you will have my respect...intellectual curiosity is the mark of a civilized man.

  • Good talk...until later.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST


    by Rob Hill

    Couldn't have said it any better myself, Conspiracy.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Maybe he'll play Holodeck Holmes

    by bah


  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Holodeck Holmes

    by Bass Ackwards

    Out for vengeance against the Enterprise crew for having blithely set free mastermind criminal and his arch-nemesis, Moriarty. Wrath of Holmes!

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    We want Morn!!!!!!

    by Matt Adams

    Do we really need Mudd in the new Star Trek movie; first Khan now Mudd.... Next Morn will be showing up to take over the universe!

  • or a new Nu Trek movie written by Bob Orci and directed by JJ. And to think that the common link between these two atrocious things is Sam Raimi and his production company...sigh...Sam what happened to you man? what?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Great actor!

    by Chris Moody

    Benedict Cumberbatch was great in SMALL ISLAND, ATONEMENT and even as William Pitt in AMAZING GRACE. He will be a welcome addition to the film! Heck, he would have made a very capable young Picard at one time. Hmmm.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Good choice if true

    by monster man

    love him in sherlock , hes on the up big time

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    you obviously know very litle of the circunstances of the independence of brasil. and there was bloodshed involved in it's independence, but it was portuguese blood from a portuguese civil war of the early half of the 1800s. the independence came from a truce from that civil war. don't take my work, go read about it. Don't mistake brasil with columbia.

  • want to see libertarianism in action? watch the crime world and how they do business and dealings with each other. it aint pretty. libertarianism, a political movement to promote social and economic irresponsability in favor of the rich and powerful.

  • it's a truly great show. and a text book example on how to modernize a classic to today. you heard that, roberto orci? not that you could learn the lesson, anyway. because it would need intelligence, which orci does not possess.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Chomsky should stick to linguistics...

    by Chris Moody

    ...because his experience dabbling in politics, economics and philosophy are ridiculously futile and quixotic.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    asimovlives, it's been confirmed many times that it is the real Boborci

    by Talkbacker with no name

    You on the other hand, are a fucking cartoon, mate.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by Chris Moody

    Yeah, this has been confirmed by Harry himself, as well as a handful of other AICN guys (including Herc earlier in this talkback). During some public appearance, Bob Orci has mentioned frequenting this website's talkbacks. His identity just isn't in doubt.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by Chris Moody

    Have you seen the ALCATRAZ pilot yet? If so, what do you think of it?

  • Did he like it or not?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST

    haven't seen alcatraz, but trailers look cool

    by Boborci

  • So says Judge Good Cinema.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    If they ever do a Harry Mudd story, get Phillip Seymour Hoffman

    by MasterShake

    He could do a great Roger C Carmel. About the right size too.

  • i love the new Sherlock movies,they did a great job at modernizing Holmes.But i want to see the BBC episodes too,i hear a lot of good word about them with the exception of the Moriarty.Everyone says that they have fucked him up royally.

  • what do you suggest? i want to see RDJ since he is one of my favorite actor but everybody says that MI4 is the best of the series and i dont want to miss that either.So what is going to be.RDJ or the crazy scientologist?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    @ killik...

    by Chris Moody

    MI4. No question. Holmes 2 might be worth renting...on Blu Ray...during a lonely rainy day.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    killik, it's better

    by Talkbacker with no name

    and why not see both SH2 and MI4? If you can afford a computer and broadband, I'm guessing you are not on skidrow and can afford (even at todays prices) 2 cinema tickets this month. Go on. Treat yourself! Oh sorry, you were asking the god of all things film, asimov. My mistake.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    The first Sherlock was fantastic!

    by KnowItAllFromCali

    The second was decent, but didn't quite live up to the first. The ending of the third had me saying WTF out loud! It was like they never planned to do another.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    I should clarify on Sherlock...

    by KnowItAllFromCali

    I am referring the Cumberbatch 90 min movies.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Did the new Sherlock episode leak online yet?

    by Mattman

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    mattman - yes...

    by Imagikafan

    It's an excellent episode, too.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST

    blubbersnatch definitely gives off a vulcan vibe...

    by OptimusBob

    ...possibly Sybok as others have stated, but he's also giving off a Gary Seven vibe. Given that Vulcans population has been all but decimated in the last movie, would Sybok have survived in this timeline, we can all hope not, thereby deleting star trek 5 from canon. Gary Seven seems a bit of a stretch as he seems too similar to Dr Who (Time Traveler with a sonic screw driver type device, etc.). Sorry, if i'm rambling, been drinking Jack and Cream Soda and distracted because i'm watchin' watchin tits jiggle on freeview (uk).

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST

    typos make you sound like a fuckin idiot.

    by OptimusBob

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    optimusbob -- edit button

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Edit button, html embedding, delete comment box, quote system.... it would be awesome if this site caught up with the last decade. I'm thinking that either the dev time/money isn't there, or there's simply no will to change. Maybe secret door number 3, where AICN finally gets an awesome overhaul by 2013. It's long overdue.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Hey, choppah...

    by DuncanDisorderly

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Hey, choppah...

    by DuncanDisorderly

    I've had a really lousy day at work and I was feeling a teensy-weensy bit pissed-off. Then I read your post regarding Mr. Beaks Top Five Of 2011 and I laughed for a good five minutes or more. Thank you. P.S. Sorry about my last post, I hit the damn enter button.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    @choppah ROFL

    by KilliK

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    @boborci Please read

    by TheUltimateMathTeacher

    (assuming this is the real guy) I love that you are on this site with the us. I think your first post was the funniest, but the others have been insightful as well. Transformers aside, great work out there and I absolutely loved ST 2009. I was wondering, as a ST fan would I be able to be one of the leads in ST 2013? Please ask JJ for me. I have acting experience since I pretend that Analytic Trigonometry is awesome and very useful in day to day living. Other than that, I've never been in front of a camera, but my 6 year old was in a national commercial for an insurance company, so that counts as well. Please consider me for Kirk or Spock or Scotty since all of those actors (especially Scotty) are horrible actors. I could do so much better than them. I'll be awaiting your offer, but please let JJ know that I already make a ton of money teaching, so my salary will be pretty steep.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by Boborci

    We're all booked up on this Trek, but perhaps part 13?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Cumberbatch in the Hobbit [Spoiler]

    by Ingeld is reporting that Cumberbatch will be voicing the Necromancer and that he will appear at the Battle of Five Armies.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    fuck it, i liked cowboys and aliens, so here's my

    by OptimusBob

    PITCH FOR COWBOYS AND ALIENS 2: Opening scene has an alien ship landing on earth, where a shapeshifting alien (similar to Ella) takes on human form (played by Robert Downey Junior or Mickey Rourke) and the attire of the indigenous population (cowboy clothing, except all in black). He heads off towards the nearby town, which just so happens to be Absolution to conduct his mysterious investigation. Here are the main points: - Ella is still alive, as is indicated by the Humming Bird at the end of the first one. - As the story unfolds she meets up with Jake, who is now the unlikely sheriff of Absolution. - As it turns out Ella has not been entirely truthful with her back story from the original film; she is actually a fugitive on the run from some interplanetary authority, as she is a person of high value to them, due to her regenerative capabilities, maybe? - The race of aliens from the first film are actually a band of dumb grunt mercenaries who were assigned to pursue and capture Ella, but she escaped from them on Earth, before the first film takes place, and so the “grunt” aliens decide “we can’t find her, we’ll never get our payment/reward now… wait a minute this place is has a lot of gold deposits, let’s make our money back that way (better abduct humans and keep them as slaves).” - The Alien in Black is actually a bounty hunter on the trail of Ella. - In the third act the alien fleet that have been after Ella show up with their Elite Guard, having grown impatient with their bounty hunter. - Dollarhyde has a one-on-one fight with the bounty hunter (the closest thing we’ll ever get of a continuation of the Han Solo/Boba Fett stand off on film.)

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Optimus -- Not bad!!!!

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    Went back and looked at all my posts over the years. Proud to say I never slammed on Orci. He must do good work. I don't count hating on Transformers. That's part of my religion.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:53 p.m. CST

    proevad - no worries if you had!

    by Boborci


  • Jan. 5, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST

    sorry about the "fuck it" before my post boborci...

    by OptimusBob

    ...makes it sound as if i'm going against the grain by liking it, all i meant was; judging by certain reviews, some seemed to have a problem with the mash-up of styles; the clue is in the title people. It's shit like that, that makes me believe we truly are living in an Idiocracy.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST

    @optimusbob dont forget to take breaths.

    by KilliK

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Well said

    by victor82

    The Warfare/Welfare State works for the Ruling Class, who own the Propaganda Ministry, as @boborci pointed out above. Only Rubes and Suckers play the Blue vs. Red Game. Way too many of those on this board lately with 2012 Campaign turning into a Rombot vs. Obama Cargo Cult Contest. The signing of the NDAA and the virtual suspension of Habeus Corpus and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1877 are just the latest in a series of acts against liberty during the 12 years of Bush and Obama. When fascism finally comes to America in full force, historians will write that it came in an envelope with a check from the Health and Human Services Administration and a draft notice from Selective Service.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    if you werent being offensive then i truly apologise

    by OptimusBob

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST


    by TheUltimateMathTeacher

    Yes, I accept for ST 13. Remember, a verbal or written contract is binding in the state of CA. So when this is filmed in 2050 and I'm almost dead, I'll be ready. Thanks for the reply.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    kiliki -- good idea!

    by Boborci

    so after trek, I'll merely be the producer and own the production company that makes Ender's Game and Now You See Me. Thanks!

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    @Orci good.the chances for these projects to turn out good,

    by KilliK

    just increased.

  • where he said that he doesnt post in AICN.but the mod here and some other guys say that he is the real hack,er deal. So believe whatever you want. Personally couldnt care less,the fact remains that the real Orci is somewhere out there,still fucking good entertainment cinema with his atrocious scripts thanks to the movie sheeps who keep giving him job because they go and watch garbage like Transformers or Nu Trek.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Somebody has been imoeronating me at Trekmovie;)

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:29 p.m. CST

    And impersonating 2

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST

    And impersonating me, 2

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Maybe.You should do something similar.Impersonate a real

    by KilliK

    good script writer.HA.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST


    by Boborci

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Hey, Orci, go suck some Horta dick!

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I THOUGHT somebody was impersonating you on Trekmovie. You seemed intelligent all of a sudden, and I just couldn't figure it out.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Thank God Anthony Pascale doesn't moderate here

    by Queefer Sutherland

    That wimpy motherfucker keeps the action way too lame at Trekmovie. He'd never let me tell Bob Orci to suck Horta dick.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Professional Work always.

    by conspiracy

    Looking forward to tomorrows Fudge Pack Friday; because Conspiracy cannot live on serious conversation alone.

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    When will we learn who is to play Bean in Ender's Game?

  • Jan. 5, 2012, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Peter Weller

    by therightclique

    You seriously think Enterprise is a better resume example for Peter Weller than FUCKING ROBOCOP? Seriously?

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Bob HERE IS The Real Thing, believe it or not, newcomers!

    by wtriker1701

    And that he is here to take on some some good verbal fights just means, they are obviously doing well with the script and they are happy with the movie, that'll come out next year. If you don't like it, already, then simply don't watch it. Hate it as you like, your (not showing) numbers in theatres won't hurt the movie's income a bit, I strongly believe! And: You'll watch that movie - you couldn't throw anything against it, if you didn't... ;-) @Bob: Maybe Delta Vega (you know, Gary Mitchell's Planet in another reality) will be much closer to Earth this time... - you know, in case, someone has to watch its (Earth's) imminent destruction... ;-)

  • For who can suggest the most inappropriate casting, isn't it? Like when Brian Cox played Ian Holm, for example. But good news that BC is on board, and I'm quite pleased Noel Clarke is, too - I've always quite enjoyed his work, and if he needs to take the paycheck to fund more of his smaller scale stuff, then fair play to him. Oh, and I'm one of those who really enjoyed Trek 09, even on repeat viewing; mind you, I went to the premier, see, walked ups the red carpet behind the Fresh Pegg and still have the popcorn, so that might be part of the reason I'm well disposed towards it. Mind you, I loathed the shallowness of the 2nd Transformers movie I saw at a pre-screening at Paramount's London HQ and didn't watch any of the others, so I don't know where that scores me on the Orci scale - a 3, maybe? Right - I'll probably want to delete this comment in about five minutes - how do I go about doing that?

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Wormholes are not real!

    by Just_Some_Guy

    Anyway, I hope the science is done way better in this sequal. "Magnetic distortion" from Saturn's rings? Really? I never heard of ice and rock creating magnetic fields. Or a supernova "threatening" an entire galaxy? They should hire and trust a physics guy as a consultant, not

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    I just hope the movie doesn't suck

    by Just_Some_Guy

    Cuz that would suck

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    ithrat_cordwallis, Noel Clarke!? Are you kidding me?!

    by Talkbacker with no name

    The guy can act a bit, but is a prized bellend and shitty director to boot.

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Not sure about the rings...

    by lprothro

    But Saturn itself has a huge electro-magnetic field; and Jupiter's magnetosphere is larger than the Sun itself!

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Rings of Saturn

    by Boborci

    on the rings --

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Libertarianism is a political ideology for juveniles.

    by Hesiod2k7

    It cannot exist in the real world for more than a very short period of time. Power and wealth inevitably start congregating in the hands of fewer and fewer people, who will use their increasing power and wealth to strip both from anyone else in a never ending cycle. The only way to ensure as much freedom as possible for as many people as possible is to create countervailing and antagonistic power bases that balance each other out. in the modern world this is the Gvt vs the Corporations. Freedom dies when one or the other becomes too powerful. You need equilibrium.

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    hesiod2k7 define facism

    by Boborci

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Rings/magnetic field

    by Just_Some_Guy

    Ok, so according to that paper, the rings create a distortion of Saturn's magnetic field. A magnetic field is created by any simple movement of a charged particle, and since movement is always relative, a field is created. Then there is a superconducting fluid with the rings (ice). The distortion is cool and all, but it doesn't seem that much. I know that Abrams thought it was "cinematic" or whatever to invoke the rings. Cheesey. It would have made more sense to say that the Enterprise hid from the Narada's sensors simply because it was in Titan's atmosphere. But, whatevs, what do I know?

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST


    by lprothro

    So superconductivity theory, hunh? Thanks for the link. It's a fascinating read (about half way through it now--having college reading assignment flashbacks!) Also appreciate what you guys have done with Hawaii Five-o and Star Trek, great entertainment all around if you ask me! (You gotta bring back the Gorn one of these days, man!)

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Balance of Terror Herc...

    by brainee28

    Herc, he has a Romulan look to him. I agree with hesiod2k7, I think it's "Balance of Terror" with the Romulans. Great space battles, mano-e-mano with Kirk and the Romulan Commander, and based on one of the best TOS episodes out of the gate.

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST

    =If you don't like it, already, then simply don't watch it=

    by KilliK

    or we could watch it and criticize it if we dont like it.that way maybe hacks like Orci will try to make a better job with their scripts next time. you see,there are plenty of options.but only very few good modern scifi movies.

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST

    killik, I thought you were trying to be funny

    by Talkbacker with no name

    but turns out you are just a right knob.

  • Jan. 6, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Bob Orci types about as well as he plots and writes

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Which is to say, horribly. You'd think making that kind of money he'd learn to type and take a lesson in screenwriting, but no.

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST

    "facism" = Disease afflicting Hollywood producers.

    by Hesiod2k7

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    The central problem of all libertarians...

    by Hesiod2k7 their failure to demonstrate how their system can be sustained for more than a relatively short period of time. They claim that they want Government to "only" perform essential functions like protecting liberty and defending borders. i.e. to protect property rights of individuals from theft, and prevent foreign invaders from doing the same. But, as history demonstrates, protecting property rights -- even if enforced -- is not sufficient to protect liberty. Eventually, some property owners aggrandize wealth and power and start abusing that power to muscle others out of the way and consolidate it. They can do this without stealing anything, and thus would not be prevented from doing so by the Gvt. They can do this through monopoly power, etc. You also have the commensurate problem of this same class sing their power to buy political power as well, so that they control the levers of government to both prevent the gvt. from interfering with their own operations and to crack down on their rivals. So, a democratic society must be constantly vigilant against one group gaining too much power and using that power to take over the levers of power and the government. Our system has worked best when there has been a rough equilibrium between capital and labor in our society -- from the standpoint of economic and political power. Where neither side could overly impose it's will on the other. This also resulted in a rough political equilibrium at the government level as well. Unfortunately, that equilibrium has been shattered for a whole host of reasons, and now the Capital side has aggrandize a massive and disproportionate share of power and is using it to beat down its rivals. This will either result in a massive backlash and a political revival of labor, or it will result in a violent upheaval against the perpetrators. Fortunately, in a functioning democracy, people have the legitimate option of changing the government to create a countervailing force. But, of course, the capitalists are trying to rig the electoral system in their favor as well. See the Citizens United Ruling, voter ID laws, etc. They are trying to prevent their rivals from re-balancing the power scales democratically. Unfortunately, that will only mean that when the masses finally have had enough -- and their only legitimate avenues for restoring equilibrium have been blocked -- they will resort to "other" means. Libertarians are under the rather niaeve and stupid perception that equilibrium can always been maintained with a minimal use of force or government power. That makes them massive idiots, in my opinion. They have no idea how the real world works. Which, of course, is ironic because their ideology is supposedly based upon the concept that all humans act with self interest. That's true, but you have to have both the will AND the means to act in your own self interest. If you only have the will, and not the means, you may not have any choice than to be a slave. What has happened over the past 3 ears in this country has proven that Karl Marx was absolutely correct in his diagnoses of Capitalism's major flaws. (He merely pointed out the flaws of Capitalism and made a prediction about how it would destroy itself eventually. He didn't advocate forced socialism or communism).

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST

    I should add...

    by Hesiod2k7

    ...that if you lack the means, but do have the will to be free -- you can also choose to die in futility fighting for their right to be free rather than be a slave. So, I guess libertarians have something to look forward to after all. Of course, there's always collective action. But, I don't think the masses are going to rise up and trow off the oppression of the Environmental Protection Agency or Medicare. Do you? Ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out.

  • Cumberbatch is Sybok? He does kind of look like Skylar. If we've got Peter Weller and this actor, plus they tried to get BD, and they all would kind of look at home with pointy ears, I think this'll be a Vulcan-centric movie. But I wonder if he'll take some of the bad Trek and try to make it good, hence Sybok.

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    No Kill I

    by Anthony Torchia

    Is it saying it won't kill us or pleading for its life? Eat me if I know, Spock. Shoot the fucking thing.

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    Sybok was probably banished from Vulcan before it was destroyed, so he's probably somewhere out in space still looking for "Sha Ka Ree." As such, I doubt he'll show up to say hello to the same family who banished him.

  • Jan. 7, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST

    RDJ= Holmes for Riddlin adled short attention span retards

    by picardsucks

    Cumberbatch = brilliant Homes as if a young Jeremy Brett was reborn. They even have the same voice, scarry I am happy with this casting it will only make the film better

  • Jan. 8, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    If the real Roberto Orci is on here.......

    by david starling

    Then I think that Benedict Cumberbatch hasn't been cast yet, but will be imminently!! Benicio Del Toro was mooted a few months back, and I noted that the feeling was of indifference - it was then posted that he wasn't in the film. Lots of news, but not much going on - I think that this site is being used as an 'approval board', to see what people want and don't want. More evidence? Lots of stories about Akira being made, all met with horrific talkbacks. Now its canned (they say 'for the moment', I say its been buried!!). Yes, this might be crazy - but hey. crazier things have happened!! Mind you, it would be nice if I were right - the power of the audience to make the product they want!!

  • Jan. 8, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    That animated gif is strangely intoxicating

    by proevad

    I think I might be a gay man. Can't stop staring at it.

  • Jan. 8, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Damn you Micheal Bay

    by SmokieGeezer