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A Feminist CARRIE Remake?

Nordling here.
Deadline is reporting that CARRIE will be remade over at MGM and that Kimberly Peirce is in talks to direct the Stephen King adaptation. The script was written by Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, who worked on the Broadway hit SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK. Peirce's previous films were the acclaimed Hilary Swank film BOY'S DON'T CRY, and STOP LOSS.
Obviously, a remake of Brian De Palma's classic movie will be a source of anger amongst fans of the original. De Palma's CARRIE is pretty much perfect the way it is - De Palma had a way to get to the pulpy center of King's work that no other director really has since, in a way. Movies based on King's work often miss more than they hit, but CARRIE, while a timeless movie, came out at a time when the world's attention was focused on women's issues.
Like THE EXORCIST before it, CARRIE explored a woman entering adulthood, but in a far different manner than THE EXORCIST did. I'm sure that United Artists didn't expect the film to become as successful as it did - the studio likely wanted a quickie horror movie to capitalize on all the EXORCIST hysteria. What they got was an undisputed classic.
The idea of a remake of King's book makes me wince, but it's also possible that this generation of young women don't have something like a CARRIE in their lives, and Peirce, who seems at touch with those issues, might offer an interesting take on the material. But the original was fairly feminist in its own right, and it's doubtful that De Palma's version will ever be topped, in my opinion.
Nordling, out.
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The stronger film of course.
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...is everywhere. Anyone would think he has a new book out...
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Jan. 4, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
Seems like Sofia Coppola would be a far better choice.
by The_Genteel_Gentile
I'm not even a fan of Sofia Coppola at all, but I did like The Virgin Suicides a fair bit and could see that type of aesthetic serving Carrie well. Of course then pappa Francis would have to screen calls from an irate Brian De Palma demanding to know why Francis's daughter is meddling with his lagacy whilst threatening to stick his own offspring at the helm of an Apocalypse Now remake! Point being, let's not do this. Okay?
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to show up and tell us why this film was better as the original when it was called Donald, and when it was not a victim of "powiticul correktnus gone MADD!!!!!!" and then say he actually likes women/bitches/whores etc
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for the second time.
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This is the perfect reason for remakes - crumby films that can be made better. Hopefully they will track down deParma-sty to get the blood for this one.
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Jan. 4, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
Kimberly Peirce has some set of balls to remake a De Palma film.
by fustfick
This being 2012, there probably won't be any bush in the locker room scene. And if that's the case, then I just really don't see the point.
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Seemed like one of those 'Get Revenge on bullies' kinda flicks. Those are always satisfying in a cathartic sort of way...
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Jan. 4, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST
umm, this was ALREADY remade, rather horrendously, like 8-10 years ago.
by TheSeeker7
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Jan. 4, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
=And if that's the case, then I just really don't see the point. =
by KilliK
why? did you see the original Carrie only for the bush in the locker room?
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Its just another adaptation of King's book. Unless its adapted from De Palma's script, it's not a remake
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it is a classic film but it's not something I'm all that precious about. I think a remake done with some respect to the classic could work quite well. They would have to have a lead who is not all that attractive and very awkward.
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After one book and three movies? King wrote a LOT of books. Pick one that hasn't been done and do that...
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Involves running a train on a 12 year old, some really bad CGI and the guy from Wings playing the bad guy. No one wants to be faithful to a Stephen King novel.
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This thing comes out in 2013. All the girls will be shaved. With tattoos. And CGI.
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...once as a semi-sequel, and again as a TV series. For that reason I wouldn't be too upset about the idea. Even if it doesn't surpass DePalma's original, I have to imagine that Peirce can do a better job than those two.
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Jan. 4, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
Fuck you MGM, and FUCK YOU Kimberly Peirce for even "entering talks"...
by Dr. Egon Spengler
Same goes to every other fucktard in Hollywood who decides to pursue any of these remakes. There are thousands of talented folks out there with great, original ideas just waiting to get made and this is the kind of crap that gets greenlit. Also, to any asshole that actually shells out their hard earned money to see these remakes, you should be ashamed of yourselves. You're the biggest reason why this shit continues. Fucking Hollywood boot lickers.
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Soylent Green is studio execs!!!!!! nom nom nom
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Jan. 4, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST
How 'bout a Diablo Cody scripted TAXI DRIVER remake with a female Travis Bickle?
by fustfick
Amanda Seyfried stars. Patty Jenkins directs.
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with justin bieber
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That was a hit like The Shawshank Redemption was hilarious.
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with Mel Gibson. and danny glover as nurse fletcher
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with Harry Knowles. Or Harry Hamlin
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Jan. 4, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
You guys know this was already remake with that chick from May, right?
by Mitch
And it was a three hour long shit heap. At least this one will be shorter, hopefully.
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with Ellen DeGeneres & Portia de Rossi
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Jan. 4, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST
lol "The idea of a remake of King's book makes me wince, but it's also possible that this generation of young women don't have something like a CARRIE in their lives, and Peirce, who seems at touch with those issues, might offer an interesting take on th
by ravenloff
As if this generation of women need any more reason to look down on men. Half are convinced by the older women in their lives, and the other half by the half of men these days that deserve their derision. All of them are inundated daily with endless examples in the media of men as oafs, foils, and clueless idiots, whether they be husbands, brothers, boyfriends, or, especially, fathers.
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Jan. 4, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
..."this generation of young women don't have something like a CARRIE in their lives,"
by DoctorWho?
Alas...how will they ever get through life?<p> Please.
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Amirite?
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You can rent the remake on Netflix (http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Carrie/60029461?trkid=2361637). This will be the third remake. But the first theatrical remake if it makes it to theaters.
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Jan. 4, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST
re: "And, once again, you used the word "movie" instead of/in addition to "film". Kudos, brother."
by buggerbugger
Is there such a thing as a phobia of synonyms? If so, I wonder if you can cure it simply by handing the sufferer a thesaurus?
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Jan. 4, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST
...who worked on the Broadway hit SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK.
by Joaquin_Ondamoon
That says it all....
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Jan. 4, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST
mr_x_ - The One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest idea...
by The_Genteel_Gentile
actually sounds good though!
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Jan. 4, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
remake Star Wars episodes One Two and Three without LUCAS!!!!
by millermeusa
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You know their going to cast whole CW channel for this remake, and a PG-13 rating to go with it. Why? Why?
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There's nothing about this story that suggests they're making it a "feminist" remake, that claim seems straight pulled out of your ass. Though I suspect it's more likely a result of you not really understanding the term "feminist."
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With jack black, ben stiller and roseanne barr as tuco
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"If only they knew".....kinda sounds wrong..."If they only knew" sounds correct...WTF... what am I a frickin' grammar teacher???
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I'm done. I was done with the Thing, and I'm twice as done now. Fuck this.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 3:35 a.m. CST
And people got thier panties in a bunch when De Palma made feature-length Hitchcock references disguised as films
by Margot Tenenbaum
At least he went to the trouble of writing a new screenplay while he strip-mined the past for ideas.
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Yay!!
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He knows what women want!
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From experience, this is why Carrie resonated so strongly, a lot of girls identified with the bullying and torment. If Pierce turns Carrie into a "men are bastards" film, then she can fuck off.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 4:28 a.m. CST
..."this generation of young women don't have something like a CARRIE in their lives,"
by Wookie_Weed
I suspect Nordling doesn't have a girlfriend or much experience with women.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST
You all know there WAS a Carrie remake some years ago, right?
by Ricardo
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Jan. 5, 2012, 5:16 a.m. CST
Whay don't Hollywood allow writers to actually WRITE new material?
by CeejayNightwing
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Jan. 5, 2012, 6:44 a.m. CST
oh but if it was Fincher doing it, it wouldn't be a remake, right?
by Spandau Belly
It would be called a fresh adaptation of the source material.
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New York, NY – SPIDER-MAN Turn Off The Dark, Broadway’s most popular new show, rang in the New Year as the highest grossing show on Broadway, shattering the record for the highest single-week gross of any show in Broadway history. The total gross for the record-breaking week ending Sunday, January 1 was $2,941,790.20, besting the previous record of $2,228,235 set by Wicked in 2011.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST
They flash scary scenes of Carrie with "BWONNNG!" in between.
by butterbean
That will be the trailer. Calling it now.
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Interesting choice. Boys Don't Cry was great, Stop Loss was a mess. I'm a big De Palma fan and a fan of his Carrie movie, but this is one of those things where the source material is popular enough that a sequel doesn't bother me. And De Palma's best known film (Scarface) is a remake anyway, so I doubt he gives two shits about a remake.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST
As long as we aren't getting Nora Ephron's Dressed to Kill
by Samuel Fulmer
Or Sofia Coppola's Blow Out.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST
Okay I'm going to go out on a limb here and sound insane
by Samuel Fulmer
But I'd actually be behind a Gus Van Sant Carrie remake, shot in the style of his film Elephant, just not a shot for shot Psycho thing.
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C"mon deep down you know you wanna hear that high pitched whine aping Pacino.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
"...who worked on the Broadway hit SPIDER-MAN: TURN OFF THE DARK" (?!)
by Kevin Rubio
Did the publicity person have a gun to their head when they wrote this?
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Remake after remake after remake... And good luck finding anyone making this even half as good as De Palma did.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST
Fuck yeah! This time to outdo the original they'll have to cast super hot chicks with even hairier bush!
by UltraTron
They have my money for the opening scene which will have giant pillows of full frontal bush action! Yeehah! Wooo! A great day indeed. Excuse me.. What?! Pg13 cockfest you say?! Really?! Oh well you'll have to excuse me I've been frozen in carbonite for a few decades. Apparently this future society I've awoken in sucks giant elephant cocks. I was just informed that there will be absolutely no nudity in this. Next
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Jan. 5, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
Shaving pubes and tattoos are so 1990. When will women define a new decade?
by UltraTron
It just all blurs after 1990. How would you even go to 2000s night at a club? Dressed like what? Women should bring back natural bodies with bush and exposed skin with no rotting, necrotic ink. In an attempt at creating a new memorable decade. If you have tattoos all over your neck and are wondering why you can't get hired as a cocktail waitress at a strip club then you are exactly who I'm talking about. Women should bring back? That's so funny. I meant parents should come back from whatever planet they went to.
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I hated that Carrie ended up killing EVERYBODY, including those who helped her. That killed the cathartic pleasure of watching her let loose. And is the reason I have no desire to see it again.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST
but what does "freedom1234" think?
by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports
Why couldn't they have gotten BRUCE CAMPBELL for the lead instead! I want to see him in a skintight blood-soaked PROM DRESS!!! Wait, did I say that out loud?
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Jan. 5, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST
A "feminist" Carrie? I never read the book, but the movie is pretty pro-female, or actually anti-male.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
All the men are portrayed as clueless, ineffectual, led by the women in their lives, or plain stupid. Carrie does destroy all the tormenters in her life, but does kill herself in the process. I guess you can't destroy an entire high scholl senior class and staff and get away with it.
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If he were here right now...I think he'd plan a crane shot or two...that's what Brian De Palma would do!
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No dirty pillows? Ol' Damned is out....
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If he were here right now...he'd create a circular dolly track around the two...that's what Brian De Palma would do!
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I know it's not all about scale but she destroys an entire town, not just a senior class. A high school girl who is a force of nature - the world is scared shitless after the events. Should look pretty cool with today's special effects.
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One of the most lovely scenes of female nudity ever filmed.
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I always thought the movie served as the ultimate anti bully message. Fuck with some "defenseless" kid, and you'll get your ass handed to ya. i was one of the few who cheered when Spacek's character flipped over Travolta's car sending them to a fiery grave. The Prom scene was a bit much.LOL That scene in which carrie's Mom using the knife as some crucifix was fucking unforgettable. hats off to De palma for making one of the best vintage horror films of all time. (Still hates Blowout)
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Jan. 5, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST
Carrie 2 (The Rage) does not exist in this or any other Dojo.
by Stalkeye
Sorry Cobra, but i had to borrow your trademark in this case. Godawful sequel next to Exorcist 3 and Omen 4. No fucking with classics Hollywood!
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Carrie's rage ain't shit compared to Alma.
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...but I wouldn't care if they remade The Fury. Carrie is kind of limited to the story but you can go anywhere with the Fury. I wonder though, if they are gonna be more faithful to the book. I know some think that means that they will destroy the town, but I wonder if they are gonna portray Carrie like she was in the book. You know, fat, pimpley, not even close to a prom queen.
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That movie kept feeling like it was building to something glorious, but then it just kinda got all resolved in an underwhelming obvious detective movie way.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST
Most women of today are retards so they won't notice that it sucks balls
by alienindisguise
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Jan. 5, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
Snake Eyes was supposed to conclude with a tsunami wiping out the casino.
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
I'm looking forward to the remakes of The Raid and Cabin in the Woods.
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
In this one, can she kill off Studio Execs who are remaking movies of their youth?
by Drath
Because there are other stories to be told, remakes of the movies that studio dipshits saw as teens are NOT the only material out there. Also, I don't know how Carrie relates to Feminism now. Maybe at the time it represented issues that weren't addressed like young girls being kept ignorant of their bodies and suffering terrible emotional abuse, but by now that's all very familiar news and not something you can sensationalize the same way. Plus, no offense, the original Carrie did nothing for me. It was a Twilight Zone episode with a little more gore/terror drawn out painfully longer than it needed to be--made worse that the "surprise" of what Carrie does at the Prom being well and good spoiled by the time I saw it. You can't duplicate that by remaking it though, not without changing it so much that it's just pandering to do it as a remake.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST
Also, follow this up with a gay remake of the Scott Baio movie Zapped!
by Drath
Oh shit, that's too close to possible to be funny.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST
De Palma's movie does NOT get the essence of the book
by Thunderbolt Ross
Did you even read it? I like the movie but the it's not true to the tone of the book at all.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
Oh no drath, the true horror would be the remake of "From Justin to Kelly"
by Damned if I can login
Just typing the subject line made me throw up in my mouth.....
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
thunderbolt - do you mean the fact that it was written in an epistolary style?
by Damned if I can login
I'm not sure I get what you mean, although I read the novel some 30 years ago. I do recall it being quite different from the film, if anything for the style of storytelling.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
A Carrie remake in a post-Columbine School shooting age? ROFL!
by spire_walk
I highly doubt the story about a teenager killing all of her bullies in school will make it unscathed to the big screen. If a bucket of blood gets dumped on Carrie at the end, it will be from the castration blood the studio script doctors give this movie.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
Listen here you FUCKS! Aside from Carpenter's 'The Thing' everythind, yes that's right people; every-fucking-thing remade is, by definition, a FUCKING REMAKE
by AllThosePowers
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Jan. 5, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
BIG news on the IMDB board about a possible remake of this...
by AllThosePowers
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453194/
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Jan. 5, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
Surprised no one has mentioned the strong religious aspects...
by Darth Macchio
..so far it's all about bush and bullies and female empowerment but what I remember from the story (beyond Carrie not being a cute strawberry blonde ala Sissy Spacek) was the overwhelming manic socio-pathic mother of Carrie and her old testament hyper-extremist views. It's been a while since I've seen DePalma's film and I do recall her being religious but not nearly as much as in the book. I still feel sorriest for the creative talents writing original screenplays that no one would even consider unless some bigwig pushes it.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
I never made it past the first scene...I always jack off and fall asleep and miss the rest
by Mel
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But more gore would help.
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for remake related news? It's really depressing. Stick it in a corner somewhere.
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Women are worse to each other than any man is to any woman (though I will qualify that statement to exclude those assholes that hit women and, of course, Middle Eastern men).
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Jan. 5, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST
Darth, she had a scary-ass googly-eyed crucifix Jesus and was always raging about "dirty pillows", what more do you want?
by mdk
If Piper Laurie did the character the same way today, you'd have every nutcase in the South on DePalma's case and Bachmann could've extended her campaign 3 more weeks on the "controversy". Which just goes to show how far along this country is toward a theocracy. Not that the thumpers will ever get there, since a few months under 16th Century-style rule would make even those dumbass Occupy hippies put down the spliffs, leave their tents and pick up a brick.
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...Carrie is telekinetically killing everyone at the prom, suddenly, in walks Scott Baio, who proceeds to telekinetically strip Carrie to panties, garter belt and stockings. She covers her boobs and runs, followed closely by Willie Aames.
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Jan. 5, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
The original can't be outdone. Only reason to do it is a minor cash-grab. Screw 'em.
by kevred
'Nuff said.
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Charlie was so much more powerful in the book, and with modern special effects and some of the talented young actresses around today, Firestarter could be a really great film.
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Now I get to look at girls' titties at work...
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yeah, more or less. Not that specifically but the tone it brings. The movie is so melodramatic and heightened
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That's movieland 2011/2012
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Footloose, Nightmare in Elm Street, Thing, Fright Night, all were at best mediocre performers at the box office no? Though I can imagine there's probably an additional revenue stream of DVD sales that comes with the heightened attention on the original films that adds an extra incentive.
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Jan. 6, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST
With the Current Climate of Bullied Teens Killing Themselves A Carrie Remake is an Awesome Idea
by thecomedian
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Jan. 6, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST
I wish remakes were more restricted to potentially strong concepts in the past poorly executed.
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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Jan. 6, 2012, 7:44 a.m. CST
Or possibly recombinations of elements from second tier films that in the right hands add up to a lot more.
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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Jan. 6, 2012, 7:45 a.m. CST
Then again if a great film maker remakes something that influenced him chances are it takes a year or two for the consensus to clock it.
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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Is amazingly talented and I have a feeling if she does this project she'll bring something to the table we haven't seen before. It's not a REMAKE of DePalma's film (which is wonderful, BTW) but clearly a different adaptation of the King novel, which has YET to be done in a way that's closer to the original text. There was a sequel, which wasn't dreadful (wasn't great either) and a miniseries with Angela Bettis, that was well cast, but ultimately not very well done. The intent was to spin that mini into a TV series but ratings were average so it wasn't pursued. I see no reason why more adaptations of popular fiction shouldn't happen. Pierce is a very talented film-maker. Boys Don't Cry is one of the best films of that year and still rests on my top 10 list. Stop Loss wasn't as well received but it was certainly competently made and she's an artist at heart. She wouldn't pursue this project if she didn't think there was an angle worth exploring.
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Wait! Someone let me in on the secret!!
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has been writing the extremely-faithful comics adaptation of THE STAND for the last 3+ years. So the guy knows his King. And yeah, in addition to SPIDER-MAN, he's also a writer on GLEE. Which will probably simply inspire more hating on the guy, but it just might mean he's got a good deal of experience writing stories set in high school. Or who knows, maybe it means he's adapting the failed Broadway musical version of CARRIE... Either way, Nordling, you really should have done your research before posting this story.
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Sorry but gay kids get treated like shit in high school. You could add religious shit to it too. It would make the story more timely and it could work. They won't do it because a gay kid murdering ass holes in the end will piss off the middle of the country pretty badly. This remake seems so utterly pointless and as someone else has mentioned, haven't the recent remakes bombed in the box office?
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Oh noes! Mean kids just keep saying bad things about me via facebook. They make me want to kill myself...so I will just kill them. High school is such a serious thing and I am the only kid that ever got picked on in the history of high school.
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heartbreaker of a performance, they don't have a prayer.
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Jan. 7, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST
They flash scary scenes of Carrie with "BWONNNG!" in between.
by 2soon2eat
LOL! I love that shit. Seriously I haven't gotten tired of that technique yet. Hey, it worked for Prometheus.
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I hear it's a film adaptation of the hit broadway musical. I loved it, it was better than Cats . . .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWQ_vJYt7DA&ob=av2e
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