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Sir Ridley Scott Respectfully Requests The Privilege Of Kicking Your Ass Next Summer!! (The PROMETHEUS Trailer Is Here...)
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Merrick here...
This is very much like the recently leaked and quickly disappeared promo we saw a few weeks back. Fingers crossed...I so want this to work. Half-way intelligent Science Fiction is scarce on screens these days. I'd love for Sir Ridley & Co. to alter the equation...
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Neato.
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bitches
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That's the Alien mothership!
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XENOMORPHS
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All this stuff about it sharing the same DNA seems to be nonsense. From this trailer it seems to be a direct prequel. You can see the alien astronomer in his chair and the crashing spaceship from the original film.
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if thats not the egg ship and space jockey.......
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST
ewww i was gonna imbed it on FB but it shows up as AICN, not the trailer. boo
by zom-bot.com
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excellent
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That trailer screams re boot.
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I really don't want to envision the architect of mankind as being a race of giant Mr. Cleans'. And it looks like he has a T-shirt on! This looks so awesome though. I hope I'm wrong on the Mr. Clean bit.
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That sounds crazy I know but it just looks too crisp and clear. I don't know if it is because it has been shot digitally in its entireity but it just looks too perfect. The SW prequals had the same problem in that they looked too clinical, cleansed and looked odd compaired to the original films.
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Geeked the hell out. The original Alien blew my mind and is to this day one of the best films ever made. Ridley Scott's gonna bring the pain, boys and girls.
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It looks to be a direct prequal of sorts to Alien. There is far too much in this trailer to suggest it. I will see it regardless.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST
the odd end peices on the jockey ship's U- broken parts of a circle?
by zom-bot.com
i don't like that- looks like what we always thought was an asymmetrical U shape is actually a loop shape ship that a chunk broke off of when it was hit or crashed into something? the thing is, all the old art, design and models of the crashed jockey ship in ALIEN WERE an imperfect U that wasn't so rounded. they've redesigned it retroactively to have been a perfect ring (with the one central bubble-distortion area- the heavy part that crashes to the ground) boo on that
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Idris Elba is first, because - well, figure it out.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST
Oh, was there a Prometheus trailer? I saw a commercial starting,
by kabong
so I clicked out.
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Looks great!
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With Charlize Theron ripping her spacesuit off. Seriously, this looks good.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST
In ten years time, this will be known as the BRAAAM!! Era of sci fi
by P
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Token Black Guy will bite it first? I give Ridley Scott more credit that than.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST
i can't believe how many of you are surprised to see the jockey and ship
by zom-bot.com
did you save yourself from all the spoilers, pics, leaks and talkbacks of the past 6 months?
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What the hell Ridley?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST
Is that a Space Jockey head/skull they're scanning on the table?!?
by D.Vader
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Big fail on Ridley's part.
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A lot of the shots and motifs seems transposed from earlier films. I am not getting a sense of anything original here in the trailer. From what i have seen i am in no rush to part with my money to go and see this. Unless we are getting really cerebral sci fi here then i am not going to bother. They even stuck in a "facehugger in helmet" shot. I ts too vanilla.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST
Why the fuck is this not on Apple trailers instead of this bullshit low-quality fuck-job shit?
by Ironhelix
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Murderous mutated crew members . Zero Original Alien. (0_o)
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but for now it's easy to see that the organic mishapenness of giger's old direlict ship design has totally been fucked over by now being shown as a 'broken' ring instead of a strange U shape. go watch ALIEN again and tell me that wreck's U ends are shattered and broken. they aren't. cop. out. ridley.
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That's me laughing at all the pretentious dickheads on here complaining about this trailer. Morons.
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Or is that too much to ask??????
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if we're going on trailers alone.
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That ship does not look like a circle to me. Looks clearly like a U. I don't see any broken ends.
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So this science team knew the location of the crashed Space Jockey ship on LV426 before most of them (or all) were wiped out. Weyland-Yutani Corp then sends the Nostromo and crew on a secret "non-voluntary" recovery mission to "collect" SJ technology from the derelict... so secret that only the Nostromo's programmable science officer knows the details. Yeah, that works. Thank you Uncle Ridley.
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Whatever dude. Just cause we have some good ideas of what this movie will be about and have been speculating for almost a year doesn't mean these ideas have actually been in a movie LIKE this. For all intents and purposes...it looks pretty damn original. But go ahead and be a stick in the mud.
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Pepople whining cause it might/will have more alien prequel-ish-ness to it than ridley let on? You'd complain about the theater seats if ridley himself picked you up and bought your damn ticket and popcorn.
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While its been known or presumed that the movie would involve the Space Jockeys in some way, I never read any confirmation. Just rumors. And even if the rumors were true, I certainly did NOT expect to SEE the Jockey's telescope/gun and the same ship.
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will be posted at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT
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I'm going to guess you really don't watch many trailers.
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we have milk and cookies waiting by the tree for you. Awesome, awesome trailer!!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST
for the record i'm not complining about the trailer: looks great.
by zom-bot.com
i'm gonna be among the first in line to see it....but yeah, i'm confused as how they have redesigned the direlect ship to fit the story here. how they took an established element of the mythos and kind of easily explained it away incorrectly. is this a broken ring? http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-JockeyShip.gif is this a broken ring? http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/derelict.jpg is this a broken ring? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8GJbAAr1DY8/TLKMxl9KYPI/AAAAAAAABw8/XsBFiKKLGq4/s1600/rscottalienset01.jpg is this a broken ring? http://scifiblock.com/sites/all/files/images/space-jockey-ship.jpg answer, no. it's an organic imperfect U shape with greebles on the ends.
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At about 0:39, is that his/her chair thingamijig rising out of the floor?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVY_lonKf4
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Got a feeling this film gonna be pg13. That would spoil what looks to be a great movie in development
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I see the ringed ship blowing up...but then I see the ship on the ground and the ends DO NOT look like they were damaged in any way...two different ships
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If they're examining a space jockey skull then it's not "the" space jockey (unless they put it back for some reason). Maybe this is one more-rounded ship that crashes, and after discovering this one, it tells the company that they should investigate the other, U-shaped one if they come upon it?
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Wow, next year is really shaping up to be a barn burner. This, Batman, and The Hobbit? I don't know if my little nerd heart can handle it.
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I mean why not? and the other littler 4 engine ship is the Magellan
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Just nip forward a few months and watch Prometheus, Avengers, John Carter...
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Rarely die first anymore. But there are somethings you could win good money on, if anyone was stupid enough to bet based on a supposedly random distribution of mortality in a horror/sf film. 1) He will die before the end of the movie 2) He will not get the girl (the most standard survival pairing at the end of a horror/sf/survival flick is a white male and female pair of breeding age.) If you can find someone willing to bet based on random distribution...you can clean up.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST
Yamayama, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Hobbit trailer yet.
by vetepalapinga
zzzz..better not mention the hobbit too much..zzz...I'll fall asleep on my keyboard...
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Very nice. And there's no question in the mind of anyone who watches this that this is related to ALIEN. Well done, Mr Scott.
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is strengthen the intensity of the cock tease this movie has been since it began...this shows us so much but also so very little...fuck I'm already impatient for the theatrical trailer
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I don't know if I'd ever seen it before. This Prometheus trailer is definitely an homage to that.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST
We don't even know if that is THE derelict ship from A L I E N
by Cureguy
It could be another ship. The planet they show the humans arriving on has a white sky. That wasn't present on LV-246 in Alien or Aliens.
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Is that a space jockeys head at 0.29ish in the medical bay scanner thing?
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Or, maybe that's the ALIEN/ALIENS derelict *before* it got to LV-426?
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This movie is not what I was expecting, but something tells me it will form a nice beginning to the great ALIEN trilogy, now with ALIENS as its finale.
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"OUR"? According to the following Alien movies, Earth (and humanity) remained pretty safe for the next several hundred years.
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I don't know why this is up for debate. The ship blowing up in the sky IS the Space Jockey ring ship. It's quite obvious(it is to me anyway, then again I'm an Aspie). The ship that's crashing is ALSO the space jockey ship. The ship looks identical to the one in the original film. The planet looks and feels a bit different and doesn't look nearly as hostile but I'm sure that has an explanation. Everyone cool your jets; these are all out of context shots in a teaser that tells us nothing of of the plot, so let's not criticize it for not telling the story we want it to.
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...you can tickle my balls and stroke my cock and then raise the man in me before backing away laughing maniacally. You old cock-teaser, you...
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The ship crashing does look spectacular, I even dreamed about that scene last night... Except in my dream the ship was much bigger and green...and errrm! spongy looking. True. I can't bloody wait 6 months, I may have to do a Cartman in the 'Go God Go' episode.
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I jsut heard that Sara Palin is doing the voice of the original Alien queen mother. But that can't really be true....
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I was promised naked pushups.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST
Maybe the planet looks different because it gets nuked from orbit at the end of this film?
by Ironhelix
You know, cause it's the only way to be sure.
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Yep, Ridley Scott makes it a trilogy. Now all we need to see is a Nexus 6 tear a Xenomorph's tongue out by its roots. Fassbender looks a lot like Hauer did, don't you think? And doesn't Charlize bear at least a tiny resemblance to Hannah?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:05 p.m. CST
It does amaze me that studios are resistant to quality and prefer quick profits...
by WeylandYutani
and go the least expensive for up front costs for years, effectively running a franchise into the ground... even when they are presented with other options. I recall after the so-so reception of A4, FOX was in talks with Scott and Cameron to return to the ALIEN franchise, but instead they made a series of very poor AvP films. I don't know if the same model applies to film production, but in other industries you can focus on high quality products that are also VERY profitable. When film studios go cheap they hurt the brand that they worked so hard to create. Off the top of my head, Apple and BMW are two corps that are very conscious of the power of branding and consistently table high end/high quality products (that are also extremely profitable BTW). I guess the price of a movie ticket is fixed no matter what movie you see while car prices and PC prices fluctuate by brand and model. However, it seems that movies and TV series now have a far longer life on DVD/BR/digital download... people collect classic films and series like The Wire. I think WB used this idea to relaunch the Batman franchise under Nolan's guidance. The same thing occurred when Paramount relaunched the Star Trek franchise with Abrams (some would say with mixed results in the case of ST). I hope Prometheus is successful. I hope studios adjust the way they make films. I hope they learn to cultivate their investments. OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
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I’m still very excited for the movie. I just hope it doesn’t diminish ALIEN for me.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST
Maybe the ship originally was a ring, but it "healed itself" after the explosion in this movie.
by hank henshaw
I dont know, kinda like the imperfect stumps resulting from a severed limb. That is if the ship is biomechanic too. I really doubt it is a different ship. I'm not trying to justify this movie, if anything I'm still on the fence about the whole endeavor, it has the potential to suck big time.
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Best trailer ever made in my opinion. I like the nods to it here.
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The key would is "COULD"
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Anyone know how far before Alien this is supposed to be set? I must admit there is a tinge of disappointment concerning the idea that the alien derelict might have only been sitting there for e.g. 50 years rather than thousands.
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Is it possible that some kind of time jump might play a role at some point in this movie? Dunno how I would feel about that...
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Everything looks more modern and high tech than in Alien. No more gritty look that made Alien so interesting. I thought Sir Scott was smarter.
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I am hoping for some serious existential horror.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
kind of sick of the big note inception style in trailers tho-
by SPACEHUNTER3-D
DAAA.....DAAA.....DAAA.....DAAA.....DAAA
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST
Goes on the short list (along with the classic Alien teaser) of greatest trailers ever.
by Brian Hopper
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST
hank henshaw - i thought the same thing about the ship 'healing'
by zom-bot.com
it could be, or that could just be us superfans using our imagination to fill in the gaffs for them. :(
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pistols and flame throwers?? c'mon now...also Alien The Nostromo was a mining ship, filled with grunts...The Prometheus is carrying scientists...so their ship will look cleaner
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST
I FUCKING REFUSE TO "BUY A TOYOTER," SO STOP TRYING TO GET ME TO!
by Fawst
I really do hate that man's line delivery. Now to watch the trailer...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST
Wow, you guys are complaining about "Inception style sound" in the trailer?
by D.Vader
GO WATCH THE ORIGINAL ALIEN TRAILER FOR CONTEXT. Then come back and mention Inception one more time.
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I agree that it would be very disappointing if it had only been fifty or a hundred years since it had crashed in ALIEN. I always imagined it had been there for at least a millennium, and possibly much longer.
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the derelict ship crash is so awesome. cannot wait.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST
And if you guys want today's sci-fi to look like sci-fi from 30 years ago...
by D.Vader
Like the original Star Wars or Alien, just a bunch of blank walls and blinking lights, which was cool back then... Well today, it'd look worse than SyFy Channel flick. Deep down, every single one of you know that. It would get laughed out by the movie-going public. It would be deemed cheesy by the general population. What do all those lights do? Obviously they're just there for set dressing. They have no purpose. They're cardboard boxes glued to the wall. Look, all that stuff looked great in the 70s, but today? Its got to look better. Now, this may have more advanced computer modeling and "holograms" and whatnot, but this doesn't really look much cleaner than Alien. And if any of you still want to use that sticking point as a way to sleight this movie and Ridley Scott, again it must be noted that the crew in the first movie were basically a bunch of space truckers. Of COURSE their ship would be dirtier compared to this one, which appears to be part of a science expedition instead.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST
Thanks Mr. Scott...I have to now explain, at work, why I have
by openthepodbaydoorshal
a circular stain just above the crotch area of my pants. I have not seen a trailer that makes me want to see the movie !NOW!, since the original Matrix trailer that ran during the Super Bowl.
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Thank you for a really great laugh there, buddy. You're ranting about Harry and Nazis and all sort of nonsense, yet you apologize for a double post? God, you couldn't make up some of the idiocy you see online if you tried. That was really funny, though.
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My ass there opening night. That is one of the best Teaser Trailers I have ever seen. Oh my goodness!
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If only writing a letter to a studio would get them to stop making photoshopped posters... But refusing to see a movie just based on its poster design, no matter HOW badly you want to see it? That seems stubborn to the point of folly to me. You're only hurting yourself.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST
PROMETHEUS - ALIEN - ALIENS...finally the studio arrives at a decent trilogy...
by BurnHollywood
*SPOILER* Anyone else figure out that the "Space Jockey" is actually a biomechanical spacesuit, Charlize Theron (Vickers, the sole survivor of the Prometheus mission) is the occupant, and it was she who was trying to warn the Nostromo to stay away when she succumbed to the Xenomorph? *END SPOILER*
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I liked the BWAAAAMs in this trailer way better than the BWAAAAMs in TDKR trailer. They actually sound more like PINGs. Absolutely love this trailer. I'm up for some intelligent, suspenseful sci-fi.
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This could be the movie to beat in 2012.
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I've always thought the derelict was something that needed to be re-explored. But I get worried when filmmakers go back and try and inject new shit into the mix. I'm looking at you midichlorians and replicant-Deckard. Hearing all this "beginning of time" bullshit... I'm worried that there's gonna be some 'wtf?-stuff' in here that tries to "enhance" the existing story....but ultimately diminishes it.
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Look at 37 seconds, when it is stating up after, you can see it is the same as http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-JockeyShip.gif Everyone calm down.
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That would be terrible.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST
hatedperson, you have posted the same thing like six times now.
by frank
Message received.
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The same Derelict space craft. Jesus H Christ. Same race of Space Jockeys, different planet altogether.
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Dear Movie People, Put on your smart hats (if you still know where they are) and make this the only trailer that will ever exist for this movie. No two and half minute trailer explaining the story. No dialogue. Just this. Please.
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With all the ''excitement'' building in the fangeek community over PROMETHEUS, quite possibly the most obscure and unimportant idea to prolong a ''franchise'', well, ever (not that there will be anything more beyond this movie - ever - in terms of this iteration), my excitement level for PROMETHEUS to collapse the Alien movie franchise after the opening weekend simply cannot be abated. I am practically moist to see people tearing their own hair out when it opens with $32-36 million and takes in a paltry sub-$100 million in the US. I am practically sweating with pleasure at the thought of the discount bins at TOYS R US filled with useless PROMETHEUS merchandise nobody wants. I am practically hyperventilating at the prospect of watching the movie nobody wants meet the audience that doesn't give two farts. It is going to be positively glorious, and it is going to be a major capper on a couple-of-year period when the fangeek community realized, once and hopefully for all, how little they matter. They got uppity with LORD OF THE RINGS. One hopes this will knock them back to the obscurity of basement-dwelling idiocy. We normals can only watch, enjoy their suffering like a Cenobite, and jill off as they run home to momma.
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I'll never get the attachment some have for the human-Deckard theory... A replicant Batty rescuing a human is touching, but a replicant Batty rescuing a more advanced model of replicant is pure Philip K. Dick. And anyway, why the hell would Batty kill EVERY SINGLE HUMAN who gets in his way, including Tyrell and the hapless Sebastian, then rescue the hitman who killed his beloved Priss (and the rest of his pals) if he wasn't a fellow replicant (and thus, worthy of rescue)? No fucking sense whatsoever. Delete your voice-over version and get with The Director's Cut, man. We now return you to Prometheus-space.
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Are you simply stating that based on the way the planet looks? Because it sure looks to me like they are setting up the crashed ship the way it was found in the first film. I am sure the atmospheric differences will be explained. Maybe they nuke the planet at the end of the film?
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You're pretty much an asshole.
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Something the Prometheus crew unleashed utterly destroyed the LV-126 environment. Same place, same derelict.
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That Prometheus would not dovetail into ALIEN by way of a crashing Derelict. It's been talked about that the ship we see has been shot down.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST
Christ, that movie looks impressive. It looks almost impossibly good.
by Brian Hopper
I pray the story and screenplay are solid, because in every other respect this appears somewhat godlike. Those sets are amazing. Awe-inspiring production design and fx. The shot at about 0:27 of the ship descending toward the storm bank on the planet/moon takes my breath away. This thing looks artful, terrifying and epic in scope all at once.
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Pretty obvious judging by all of your copy-paste hate-filled posts regarding upcoming films that you are indeed a seriously ill person. You are nothing but a diseased, bitter troll. Crawl back into your cave (a.k.a. mom's basement.)
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Rather than kill Deckard he decided at the very end that he would rather talk to him and possibly make him appreciate his own life more. I think he wanted to let Deckard know his mind before it was extinguished. It was the only semblance of a legacy he had a chance to leave behind. That is my take on it, anyway. And how would Batty know if Deckard was a replicant anyway?
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You think I should see see the first three before watching this one? I know I am a sorry piece of shit for not having seen 2 and 3. I guess I have time to watch them before.. BUT, Hobbit wins the trailer off imho... TDKR and This look suoer fuckn dope. 2012 is going to be EPIC
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Apple just put up the 720p & 1080p versions on iTunes about 5 minutes ago. Can't wait to watch this in glorious hi-def. Have at it, and enjoy!
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ALIEN and ALIENS, yes. ALIEN 3 and beyond, decidedly no.
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...was the moment that we see the Space Jockey from Alien coming up through the floor on that chair with the big canon/telescope on the end of it. It wasn't until I saw that shot that I realised how I've always wanted to see that!!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST
Prometheus has me more excited than the hobbit and TDKR
by drunkenmonkey73
Having said that, next year these 3 movies will well and truly kick our asses
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holey jeebus!
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the Brian Cox cameo.
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Watching this trailer made me jizz all up in this piece
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Attaboy Fassy, way to take her Ol' Fassy Boy!
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It's simple. It's like the old narration states. He learned to appreciate ALL life. He's not just saving a "fellow replicant". In turn, Deckard learns the same lesson. The whole emotional impact of that message is ruined when you make Deckard a replicant. Just like explaining the Force as some microscopic organism that can be measured ruins the notion of it being something that anyone can tap into. I'm coming to the conclusion that there is about a ten year limit in which a filmmaker can return to a universe he/she worked in before. After said period, they have changed too much as a person and have begun to lose sight of what it was that made their original movies tick. It's like, "oh, I just read this cool new-age book recently....maybe I can try and add that now that I'm older and wiser." It's kinda like when a rock band tries to return to it's "roots". It just never works. I hope this doesn't happen with The Hobbit or Prometheus. Guess we'll see. Still, a really exciting year for movies 2012.
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Great stuff, but if this is really going to tie in to the original film, it has to have Theron sporting the skimpy, crack-happy panties!
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and yeah, the part that strikes the other ship does not break a 'ring'. all the greebles are already there and exist. it would have been stupid for Scott to have fucked that up, and it was stupid for me to think he would. there i said it. humbled. i just have too much soul at stake for this movie to suck or get anything wrong.
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and after many adventures, we will understand that they are servants of the Old Ones! H.P. Lovecraft had it right all along. Nothing I enjoy more than watching bright-eyed hopeful explorers run screaming in terror.
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1) In that interview Scott did recently that was just posted here in AICN, he claims that the Space Jockey is wearing a suit, that it's "obviously a suit". Only one tiny problem with that: in ALIEN, Tom Skerritt's character says, upon examining the dead Space Jockey: "Looks like it grew out of the chair." It grew out of the chair wearing a suit?!? Sadly, I guess it's a suit now. That's gonna be weird.</p><p> 2) There's already been a fine continuation of the Space Jockey's story: Dark Horse's ALIENS comic (which also would have made the best sequel to ALIENS, since it involved Newt, Hicks, Ripley, the aliens/Space Jockeys coming to Earth and a shitload of cyborg Marines invading the aliens' homeworld. The Space Jockeys in the comic also wore actual spacesuits over their fucked-up bodies.</p><p> 3) Unless Scott has completely lost it (see point #1), not only is the Space Jockey ship NOT a ring that somehow gets blown into a weird U-shape, but the ship itself is pretty much based on this shape: http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u325/mappster65/20287.jpg
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Just don't bring a gun to the theater, k?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST
WATER, MY ASS!!! GET THIS GUY SOME PEPTO BISMOL!!!!!
by Squinty CGI Flynn
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bless south africa for her daughter Theron.
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but that looks fucking EPIC! I like the fact that it has a really nice fresh look about the environments. It's not all dark and nightfall!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
Jizz........Can't believe i've seen trailers for Prometheus, TDKR & The Hobbit, all in the same week!!!! Each one has looked epic too!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL YOU CRAZY TALK BACKERS FROM DRSTRANGERLOVE AND HIS FAITHFUL ASSISTANT EGOR. The Lab will be clos
by cameron
The PS3 will be open from now until then! BF3, Batman Gotham City, Uncharted 3 and blurays, blurays every where!!! THEY THOUGH ME MAD, BUT I'LL SHOW THEM, I'LL SHOW THEM ALL!!!!!!! Come Egor, it is time to unleash this Modded PS3 on the WORLD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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if the tech looks better than that of alien that was one of the issues i had with star wars
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST
All I see when I watch it now is "half nekkid pushups, DAAAAMN!"
by fireclown
I like to think that the black guy that we see right after the pushups is watching and reacting.
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What great shots! What an amazing look!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST
sweet trailer, quite enthusiastic to see this movie. only negative point: Damon Lindelof. why it had to be him?
by AsimovLives
hopefully, Scott put a leash on him.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST
But she was supposed to have been doing the pushups naked, Asi.
by frank
I distinctly recall hearing something about that from Ridley. Or maybe it was just a dream I had?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST
sweet trailer, makes me quite enthusiastic about PROMETHEUS. only negative thing: Damon Lindelof. why it had to be him?
by AsimovLives
Hopefully, Scott put a leash on him and holded it thigh. or maybe lindelof might actually have hidden talents whenever he's out of the evil influence of the JarJar.
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Just watch 2. It all ends there as far as most people are concerned. 3 was just a total train-wreck. 4 is better than 3 just for Ron Pearlman alone.
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control yourselves, nimrods I don't get how you people can instantly love or hate a movie just based on an arrangement of out-of-order and context 2 second clips. Looks interesting enough, I hope it will actually be good. Ridley's been disappointing for far too long.
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so long as the film lives up to that Fucking BADASS trailer!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST
Is that a chestburster scene I beginning? Also acid on the one guys suit
by ajt2111
When the girl is lying down all fucked up screaming help me? Looks like it could be a chestburster...also, notice the acid on the one guys suit? Even uses the Alien font. Yep, we're going to be getting some version of the Alien(s) at some point in this movie. (Of course I think we all already figured that considering this is a fucking Alien prequel at the end of the day.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST
I see beginning* Fuck this sites lack of edit. Why does Harry refuse to update this fucking site? A little modernization wouldn't hurt the charm
by ajt2111
FUCK
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To the gods of cinema I pray unto you, please bring us the sci-fi we need.
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Two cuts were done as I hear... One clothed..probably for the PG-13 Money Machine. One Nude for R rated DVD...for those of us who like to fap in the comfort of our own homes.
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And getting me just as psyched .
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On the right side of the screen there's a tall dude standing there as the astronomer chair is raised. Looked like a giant human... nice to see the proto-alien/half-metamorphosed dude jumping on the other, too. Can't wait!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST
banditdarville...The toe inducing Panties Sigourney wore are Standard Issue...
by conspiracy
Rest assured...Ridley knows his audience...there will be plenty of sexuality laced violence, and skimpy sweat soaked panties. Hasn't even come out yet and already I Can't wait for the directors cut.
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No year can handle this much awesome.
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noob
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST
the people responsible for JOHN CARTER would do well to learn from this trailer. This is you sell a movie.
by AsimovLives
This trailer didn't felt the need to use hip rock music to sell it to an audience, and it's better for that. Stick to the movie, do your business, and no bullshit. This is how you do it.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST
Am I alone in thinking the use of the Alien title card was a bit too sensationalist?
by Kris Downes
Really really want and believe this film could be a life changing cinematic event, but you could have made ANY half-arsed sci-fi film own that vibe from what was presented...especially with the studio firing all guns for it! Again, really really rooting for this!
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But I hope all those rumors of the crew turning into the aliens are still considered B.S.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST
Hate me more nows gimmick is as worn out and tired as his mothers pussy
by ajt2111
With that being said, it would be preferable if this movie was rated R. If that is indeed a chestburster scene, I'd like to see it done correctly, same with any other Xenomorph carnage.
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I keep trying to pause, but I miss and get closeup sweaty Theron instead. Not complaining.
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take yer fuckin ritalin
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charlize theron is so hot, her being naked or dressed is just a matter of detail. and after i saw her do a 25 seconds long kiss on another woman, she has my undying loyalty, even dressed.
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I didn't notice the bald figure raising the Space Jockey gun/scope in the previous trailer embed! As for the alien metamorphosed guy... what are you talking about?
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Wow, just wow.
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It's a hollywood blockbuster. It's not "halfway intelligent Scifi" anymore than Avatar was. It's fucking eye-candy.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST
Asimov, this and John Carter are completely different movies
by D.Vader
One is sci-fi horror and its trailer is a direct homage to the trailer for ALIEN. You really think Disney should advertise its family scif-fi adventure film in the same way?
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http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/
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So much good stuff to go and see!!
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were you even born yet?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
V'shael...and you can tell that it is not serious sci-fi, and just eye candy...
by tritium
from a one minute trailer that features no dialogue?? Interesting. You must have levels of perception that go beyond mortal men.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
That hologram map room looks to take place in the same room as the Space Jockey gun/scope
by D.Vader
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
early this year, there was a rumour that Ridley Scott wanted to make a Sf movie that among other things explored woman-on-woman sex in a SF story, which would be part of story in PROMETHEUS.
by AsimovLives
and lo and behold, this movie has two actresses who are no strange to onscreen lesbian sex, charlize Theron and Noomi Rapace. Hum!
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i am seeing this movie. Ridley Scott, back in the Alien universe? you couldn't stop me seeing it. as for ditko's point about everything looking more high tech and modern. i think Scott will have thought about that, from the trailer it looks there's a pretty major operation going on there, well funded and well equipped. but the Nostromo was a working ship, a space tugboat if you will. in the original Alien, they're like the deep space long haul truckers, they're not gonna have state of the art equipment.
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I'm saying that JOHN CARTER advertizement should be done intelligently, like they are doing with PROMETHEUS. And THE HOBBIT and TDKR.
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or were you just born naturally witty? noob
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Is there a mutated (?) member of the crew standing besides the space jockey chair when its lifting up? The chair seems empty, so will he sit in there and melt with it?? Maybe its some kind of DNA extracter, which uses other life forms DNA to complete the perfect biological weapon - in this case an Alien. My mind is going wild already :P
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Sorry, but that's a fucking alien prequel! Same fade-in lettering with the same font, same fucking music cue, same fucking SHIP! I guess they just didn't want to piss off people expecting xenomorphs running around so they had to retract it, but that trailer is CLEARLY aimed at Alien fans! That looks even better than I could have fucking DREAMED! It's amazing how he recaptures the exact same look and tone of the original film.
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Interesting point, but this is supposed to be, what, 100 years before Alien? The Nostromo would be outright antiquated.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST
What does Ridley think of what James Cameron did with Aliens?
by the Green Gargantua
Does he like the Queen? Or does he see it as mucking up a concept that he would have expanded in a different direction? I mean, JC made them very much a kind of alien animal life. However, when there was only ALIEN, we did not know what to think..
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I'll be there on day one.
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I saw that too. Also, there appears to be another infected/mutated crew member leaping down & attacking. Maybe could have kept that plot point out of the trailers...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST
pretty sure the Space Jockey chair is aimed at the star system that the pilot wishes to visit in the hologram space map.
by the Green Gargantua
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/spacejockeyf.jpg/
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/spacejockeyf.jpg/ I'd say it's definitely not a mutated member of the crew, considering he must be fucking giant when compared to your average human.
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Promethei? What's the plural of Prometheus? This time it's really war
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST
Space Jockey Not a mutated crew member, unless he mutated into a fucking giant
by ajt2111
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/spacejockeyf.jpg/
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When he says it looks like the jockey grew out of the chair, I always figured that the chair and jockey had kind of melded together in a fossilization process. Over time, the suit could have deteriorated or fossilized as well. Anyway, that Giger pick is cool as hell.
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holy shit, i have the ALIEN production book with that art, and i guess it's been years since i read the notes, i never caught the ship being based off of that humanoid form but it totally is. mind blown.
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Maybe this is too obvious and the creature on the left is really a native member of the alien ship... and the big human face in the urn/egg room coud indicate that humankind was an original product of this alien race (would fit somehow to the original Prometheus myth). So maybe WE were the original perfect biological weapon designed by those alien dudes...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST
Pretty much the best-looking trailer I can recall seeing in 1080p.
by Brian Hopper
The fx are stunning. Everything looks detailed and realistic. The planet/moon they're on actually LOOKS like an alien world, not the Mojave Desert or something, and it doesn't look exactly like other alien planets we've seen before. Already, I deeply admire what Ridley Scott has done here... Prometheus, though clearly a cousin to Alien, has a look and feel all its own.
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You can definitely tell now that the trailer is in HD.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST
We'll probably find out that the space jockey was one of us.
by jawsfan
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At 0:34 seconds into this trailer (in the apple quicktime version) the crew can be seen in medical gear operating on what looks to be the head of a space jockey. This trailer is loaded with cool images, but this may be the most revealing.
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http:// i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr48/bullitt411/prometheus.jpg
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In the shot with the space jockey chair rising up from the ground, in the left hand side of the frame there is a man standing there. Now if this is the same room and chair from Alien, thats one really fucking tall man...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST
ajt211, that is assuming this is the SAME room as from the first Alien
by D.Vader
I'm inclined to believe its a different room bc the map room looks to be smaller. There's a human figure in it, and the scale is off compared to the space jockey room.
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I like it. Will it be that clever?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST
Clabog there's an entire Space Jockey standing up in the trailer, here's a pic
by ajt2111
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/spacejockeyf.jpg/ it's at the 45 second mark. And no it's not a fucking human as he's proportionate to the giant chair.
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As much as we all want a hard R film to satisfy our own personal fetishes and lusts...studios simply have too much as stake to take such a gamble these days.
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We expect better out of you.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST
for anyone argueing why the nostromo's computers looked shit
by zom-bot.com
compared to the science ship, then i offer you to look at AICN. it is not state of the art by any means but continues to be used despite being totally outdated. the nostromo needed just the bare minimal of course plotting and autopiloting/cryo and data tech. i like to think of their computer system like the sonar readouts on modern freight tugs and fishing boats.
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a bunch of bitchy little girls."..
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Would be even more clever is such things would be just indicated in the finished movie and kept a bit open interpretation.... hope Ridley Scott has again some trust in the audience's imagination
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Well then if that guy isn't human, what is he? I dont think he's a space jockey because then what the hell is that head that I pointed out in my first comment? The one they're operating on. THAT head looks more like the dead space jockey then that supposedly giant sized man
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
Quicktime sucks, stop pretending its good to get free stuff
by thedarklingthrush
fags
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
conspiracy, R rated movies can (and have) easily make money if marketed right
by Mattman
No ALIEN movie should EVER be rated PG-13. It just doesn't fit the material.
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I think there will be not only the space jockey's (who will looks monstrous and alien) but some sort of hybrid, genetically engineered human type things. I love how hush hush this whole movie is. It's refreshing
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I don't think it's originally a ring. In this trailer, when the ends are facing upwards, they seem smoothed rather than blasted to hell. Also, if that shot comes soon after the explosion, I would expect some smolderin.' But who the hell knows? I'm stoked.
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I am looking forward to seeing it.
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I miss movies that don't spell everything out for you.
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I still see your misogyny is shining like a beacon. Get over it, women exist, they are every bit as equal as men... So will the derelict in this crash and anti terraform the planet to a rock? I am hoping that the Alien does make an appearance in this as the font, music and editing are so close. Why go to such lengths if the central crux of Alien is not there. The marketing tease has been masterful though. It may be the first time where the geek-aspi-hive mind cannot decide to like or disown a film from the outset. The management of if it is a sequel or not has been amazing at managing expectations and corralling people into not criticising it. Hope it lives up to my expectations and also that the ALien does appear - maybe it is the first test the Jockeys do to see of the Alien is adaptable and an efficient killing machine on a non-jockey species. It could be the finale where they are introduced to eradicate the last few surviving humans... the nuclear option for the Jockeys
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST
yup- zoomed in on that pic- the space jocky is a humanoid
by zom-bot.com
and big. and wearing a suit. but not the helmet yet, which probably grows over his face. he is vaguely humanoid. his brow and nose ridge are overdefined, like the big face. he is our 'god' but he's just an alien. we're made in his image. we totallt stole his secrets and killed him millenia ago....and our curse is that we die but keep giving birth and overmultiplying. we're corrupt. we are somehow responsible for it...and probably our own horrid nature corrupts/infects the 'bioformer' and is personified by the alien-
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When the crew come into the airlock it looks like one of them is being helped by the others... It may be the one who takes the acid(?) to the face... If so it would appear to be Holloway the character I believe is played by Logan Marshall-Green
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and discover it's just a shell, a helmet. just because it looks like they are scanning a skull doesn't mean they won't find out it isn't one
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stratosphere numbers... it's basically impossible. Too much of the movie-going public is frozen out of seeing it. The recent examples of 'blockbuster' Rs are the Hangover movies and 300, all of which settled in at the $250m range. The highest grossing R is of course Mel Gibson's snuff film Passion of the Christ at $370m. Obviously, they're looking for $500m to $1b plus on Prometheus, which is why it will be rated PG-13 and our best hope is a push-the-limits PG-13. I wish this was rated R, but it won't be.
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Remember Alien? The scene where we see the space jockey? It's much bigger than a human and it's sitting in that chair. Whatever is standing there off to the side is proportionate to the space jockey's chair. If it's not a space jockey, it's something bigger than a person. Also I agree it does appear that their studying a space jockey's skull, so maybe whatever is standing there is something else, but it must be pretty fucking tall, right?
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Were you trying to tell me something?
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...one of the few movies I'm really looking forward to next year.
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looks awessome waited 30 years for ridley to return to scifi.
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There was plenty of bitching and moaning about the Hobbit & TDKR trailers too. No trailer is gonna satisfy everybody. This one seems to be coming pretty close so far, though I'm sure there are folks who will be posting their problems with it shortly. I'm feeling a "just didn't do it for me" post any minute now. As far as the JC trailer goes...I think they were just trying to counter-balance the teaser's quietness with bombast. I expect the next will mix the two along with depth added by snippets of Giacchino's just finished score. Anyway, there's no denying that the Prometeus trailer is well done...but of course, they had the original Alien trailer as a blueprint. There's an element of nostalgia the trailer benefits from that other trailers can't possibly count on...same goes for the Hobbit. Also, there's the repeating/growing thunderous "boom" music cues- timed with shots from the movie that imply "serious business".... that were also used to great effect for Inception, Tron Legacy, True Grit and some other trailers recently.
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good call zombot
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But it's the exception that proves the rule.
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I don't think that really fucking tall guy is human, but I don't think he's the classic space jockey either. God, I'm so excited for everything in this movie. Space Jockey's, Really Fucking Tall Dudes, and quite possibly xenomorphs
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To add to your point about the look and feel of the earlier Alien movies and Prometheus: I coudn't agree with you more with your reasoning that the gritty appearance of the Nostromo was attributed to the type of work the crew and ship were performing. James Cameron's version of the Alien universe was also strikingly cleaner than it's predecessor- mostly evident in the scenes where Ripley was recovering on the space platform. It would make sense that a medical/science facility would have a "cleaner" look than a mining station in much the same way that a hospital looks cleaner than a warehouse.
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The mutated crew member appears to be bald / weird looking... There's a shot when the blood / poop covered female entered the medlab and those already i there turn to face her. In thi shot one of the crew is bald and in a wheelchair. Is it possible that Holloway gets infected first ala Kane and then infects the rest of the crew?
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i always wanted to know...guess now i will. there was no other creature's remains on the ship, at least not found by the crew of nostromo. did it wander out into the planet and die? was it killed by one of the prometheus crew? i think what we are seeing in that pic is the giant demi-god space jockey making his final walk to the chair, knowing he's infected/injured and going to attempt some revenge on earth in his ship. but what happens to the urns that makes them into eggs? did it happen before or after his death? so many questions. can't wait
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$500m+ global. But the point is still that: when you look at the list of the top grossers, the one thing they have in common is basically that they're not rated R.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST
Well as someone else pointed out after zooming in, he appears to be wearing the space jockey's suit
by ajt2111
So as Zombot said maybe the other thing is a helmet. I guess we'll find out
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talking about this Prometheus PG-13 vs. R bullshit. Again. Forgive me.
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I might go see that when it comes out.
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just saying
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
How the hell can you tell he's wearing a "space jockey suit"?
by D.Vader
Its far too dark to tell what kind of suit that guy is wearing! The space jockey "suit" was rib and bone.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST
Probably been mentioned by now, but I'm thinking the opening dialogue...
by Fawst
is the message that Ripley was working to translate/decode in "Alien." It's spoken in past-tense, so it would make some sense.
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There a scene where Charlize is climbing into some kind of capsule. Well, if you look closely you'll notice, her ass looks amazing in that space suit.
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you do realize if that rating had existed forever, given todays standards almost every R rated w/o nudity from the 70's-80's would have been PG-13
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http://trailers.apple.com/movies/fox/prometheus/prometheus-tlr1_h1080p.mov
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST
mattman...This film will need $300M minimum domestic to turn a profit.
by conspiracy
I"d guess it'll need $250M to just break even. Once you factor in the costs above and beyond the actual production costs. I just don't see how you can do that when you ice out the 13-17 demographic. As M6y points out...but for few exceptions R rated films just can not do the traffic, especially films like this which we have to admit have a very narrow audience..Comedies get away with it because they appeal to such s large part of the population, but I'll tell you know as much as my parents laughed at Hangover...they won't be going to see this, and neither will the Jesus freaks that went to see Passion. Sure..it is Possible it could do those numbers released at R, if it is the second coming of Ridley and the stars align. But if YOU were the guys green lighting this, who assured the styakeholders their $200m investment would be returned with profit, and your career were on the line...would YOU take that risk knowing that if it failed you'd never get another job in that town...EVER (not exaggerating). It will be PG-13...just to cover their asses; you'll get the unrated cut on home release.
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So isthat a Space Jockey head they have on the gurney at 35s?
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and download the damn 1080p Quicktime (I hate Apple too, but seriously - you're acting like idiots) where you can see all the detail in perfect clarity. The ship is OBVIOUSLY not a perfect ring, as you can see in the Derelict explosion shot as it's falling. It has a flaming hole in the inner curve towards the center. It's not being blown apart from a circular shape. The giant bald person in the room with the Jockey chair (again, look at it in HUGE MASSIVE 1080p) is not wearing clothes at all. You can see his bare skin. Look at his goddamn arm. There are some kind of detailed black markings on parts of his body, though. Yes, there is also a PERFECTLY VISIBLE Space Jockey 'head' on the examination table, and it looks 100% identical to the one seen in ALIEN - as in, it even looks "fossilized". Beats me why they would be examining a "helmet" like that, since it just looks like bone.. which is why I'm hoping that giant bald dude isn't just a giant bald human-looking guy who ends up wearing a Jockey "suit". Take 5 minutes to download the Quicktime version and all of this is perfectly visible and obvious. If your computer can't handle it, save up your Taco Bell paychecks and buy a fucking better one.
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Just download the .mov file and rename to .mp4 and play in Windows Media Player or VLC or whatever shit player you have.
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you both made my day... lmao
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Give me a break. In Alien, they were a bunch of truckers. You think that was high-end tech for their time? It would be like comparing some Teamster's aging 18-Wheeler to a Ferrari. Yeah, they're both cars, both transportation, but...big difference.
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I'm lad you mentioned the INCEPTION trailer, because i have the feeling that the people who made that trailer also made this trailer for PROMETHEUS. The styles feel similiar, if you know what i mean, and not just because of the evil horn sound.
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... and I'm really excited. I just hope the story is as mind-blowing and deep as the trailer suggests. Now I just need to work out how to get fucking Quicktime to let me save the file to my hard drive without paying for the Pro version. I don't want to have to download the trailer every time I want to watch it.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
RIDLEY SCOTT ALREADY SAID HE FILMED IT SO IT COULD BE RELEASED AS PG-13 OR R
by poop
The comic-con video has been on YouTube for MONTHS! He says he's filmed it so it can be released as both versions, because, quote: "You've got to cover your ass". He states that when everything's put together, him and Rothman are going to sit down and watch it and then make their decision at that point. What is wrong with you people when the information is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU and you sit around speculating like morons? Here, for the blind, deaf, or just fucking stupid people who are debating the eventual rating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeIce4lc8s
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
@caractacuspotts - REPLICANTS AND XENO UNIVERSE WILL MERGE!!! HOW F*CKING AWESOME WILL THAT BE?? Yessssss...
by marineboy
Already been indicated by Ridley, more than several twists in this movie - I Fassbender is a last gen replicant before the Ash model droid supersedes...Weyland bought out Tyrell after his death :)
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They're going through the Tannhauser Gate!
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his forearms are bare, but he is either biomechanical (duh) or wearing a sheer segmented suit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeIce4lc8s
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when it turns out in the end, that the whole movie played millions of years before the first Alien movie and the human-looking crew members were just creatures from another planet and because the DNA somehow landed on young planet earth, our species could evolve.... well this could happen if this was an M. Night Shyamalan movie (What a twist!!!)
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST
Passion of the Christ is a bad example of R rating making money...
by conspiracy
That wasn't a film so much as a religious and semi-historical document. You had religious leaders world wide all but begging their flock to take their children and bed ridden mothers to go see it lest the Devil take their very souls. It was an anomaly...nothing more. And as I said...Comedies can be R rated...as people over different generations and cultures usually find many of the same things funny... ...but there is a big difference between a few "Fucks" and a naked Chinese jumping out of a trunk of a car; and the graphic depiction of horrific bloody sexualized violence, sex and nudity...which Prometheus most probably has lots of. It'll be PG-13...
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Merry Xmas you old facehugger!
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That's true. It's funny, today's standards would do all kinds of wacky things if you were to apply them to old movies. A lot of R movies from back in the day could maybe get even get as low as PG. I mean, look at Barbarella and Midnight Cowboy....weren't those both X at one time? Last Tango in Paris and Bonnie & Clyde ain't shit by today's standards. I think Alien would remain R because of the chest-bursting scene alone. Other movies that were low rated would probably get WORSE now. Don't know if Blazing Saddles was PG or not back in the day (I think it was), but it would definitely get an R now for the liberal use of the N-word. I don't think Dune would make PG-13 today, now that the ratings board knows what a sick fuck Lynch is lol.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST
Looks to me like the Space Jockey is the antagonist in this story.
by Royston Lodge
Could, then, the Xenomorph be the weapon used against the Space Jockey to save the humans?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
re: "I'll never get the attachment some have for the human-Deckard theory..."
by buggerbugger
It'll be because the story makes much more sense that Deckard is a human who has come to realize that the thin line that separates him from his prey may no longer exist, because androids are now almost totally indistinguishable from human. What is "human" anyway? It's a story about a man who comes to doubt his purpose in a bleak, cynical world and comes to the conclusion: fuck this, I'm going to run off with this hot robot chick who's almost totally indistinguishable from human, because what is "human" anyway? It is not a story about a man who realizes that he's secretly always been an android who's been given fake memories to believe he's human so that he can hunt down the latest, cutting-edge androids that are less cutting edge than himself, because he's a new, secret super-android. And now that he's found out that he's a secret super-android, he's going to track down who placed him there and why and- oh sod this, I'm just going to run off with this hot robot chick, because none of those things are important in a story about a man who realizes that he's secretly always been an android who's been given fake memories to blah blah blah.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3 p.m. CST
buttnasty_cockstank ...which is why Charlize shot the pushup scene twice...
by conspiracy
one clothed, one not. PG-13 people...it's the smart thing to do.
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On the larger vehicles there are orange "W" logos and in one shot at the 0:37 point you can see a grey W logo on a screen and it says "Weyland USV" underneath, so it appears this film is set before Weyland and Yutani became "the company" that we know and hate!
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...dat ass :P~~~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/53789785@N02/6555826455/
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I am so there opening day!!!!
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I think you're right
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As time goes by I become more and more jaded and bitter about cinema, and Hollywood has done nothing to abate this... ...Except this trailer. My ass will be parked in a seat, and for 3d, no less! Dare I hope?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST
At 00:29, they ain't xenomorph eggs, but they sure are meant to evoke that memory.
by Royston Lodge
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Actually the ship IS the familiar U shape seen in ALIEN. Look closer at the first scene showing the explosion on the side of the ship. The angle is odd but you can tell it's still the U shape.
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...and it would be interesting to see how those guys would handle JC
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Sure got it. RIIIIGHT. "We" You and who? What do ya got a mouse in your pocket?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST
There are dozens of images of cast/crew members wearing 'Weyland Corp' clothing
by poop
So yeah. No Yutani yet.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST
by zombie_fatigue: "I did the BWAAM sound. Gotta credit Spielberg for that" How you figure that?
by AsimovLives
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is that you can clearly see a huge flaming hole where the U-shape Derelict is falling from the explosion, but when it's on the ground rolling like a donut there's no hole/damage whatsoever. Weird.
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Man this is boring... A film shows the epoch it was made in. That is why there are big glass monitors and flares in ALien. Production designers are not physic and can predict technological change - they guess - get over it. Do you want people in flares wandering about as in Alien... it was made in 78 after all. Did you ever notice that all the Night - Day of the Deads etc were contemporary to their time even though they seemed to be telling the same story... did they have to explain how an 80s helicopter was in a film series that was set in the 60s at the first film... they just contemporised them I do like that as it is set before Alien the space suites look like they are from an earlier time thematically. Look at the giant glass dome and the skin tight lycra. This is inspired by the 50s and 60s era space suites of the Jetsons and lost in space - the more utopian looking rather than clunky dystopia of Alien. It uses the epochs we know to bring a history to the future we are seeing - smart! I like that the vehicles are boxy and angular though - with wheels rather than levitation to fit with the aesthetics of Alien.
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and cannot see the wood for the trees. Judge it on its merits not its rating
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Because one movie was made in 1979 and the other is made in 2011. It took many times scrubbing through the trailer frame by frame to figure this out, but I am now confident this is the answer.
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..the terraforming process and consequently get their asses handed to them.
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The shot of the explosion hitting the space jockey ship could correspond with the hole in the side of the ship that Newt's parents used to get inside the ship (assuming it's the same ship). We see the space jockey ship flying, maybe it manages to fly off to LV-426 before crash landing? Then again, the ship on LV-426 looked ancient and fossilised, so it's odd to see it in working condition if it is the same ship. There's a strange bald guy in a wheelchair in the shot where the bloodied woman collapses. Is this an injured/mutating crewman or something from the ship? The space jockey chair doesn't appear to have the space jockey in it! I wonder if we'll see a live one? What's that metallic looking guy to the right of the chair? Love the shot of sweaty Charlize Theron. Really evokes that shot of sweaty Sigourney in Alien when the self-destruct is counting down.
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If you came to this conclusion using the low res quicktime you are a retard. If you downloaded the 1080p version though that will give better results... You have to have a full picture to see this not the blurred one... etc... etc... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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The space jockey chair doesn't appear to have the space jockey in it! I wonder if we'll see a live one?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST
Weird...it didn't post my whole response. Dammit! Anyway, photoboy:
by DrBathroomMD
The space jockey chair doesn't appear to have the space jockey in it! I wonder if we'll see a live one? What's that metallic looking guy to the right of the chair?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST
This looks like the spoiled script review from a few months back
by SunsetLament
A little while ago, there was a script review (packed with spoilers) that was floating around the internet. Everyone dismissed it as fan fiction. The scenes in this trailer look like it could easily be what was depicted in the spoilers.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST
Wierd...my other respnse didn't show up. Anyway, photoboy:
by DrBathroomMD
The space jockey chair doesn't appear to have the space jockey in it! I wonder if we'll see a live one? What's that metallic looking guy to the right of the chair?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST
i'm sorry, guys, al your talk is very interesting... but i can't get pass the sweaty Theron image
by AsimovLives
that is so worthy of a tonne of CGI. i could watch a whple mmovie be about that, a sweaty theron. Truly Ridley Scott is a master visualist!
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It's literally no different than any dozen or so sci-fi trailers that have been released over the past few years = poor assembly comprised of quick jump cuts and ominous music. Sure, the visuals look pristine and will, no doubt, be state-of-the-art. But there is nothing here to suggest that this is "high-minded"science fiction. I remain impressed with the assembled cast. However, it's going to take more than just a few nostalgia-fueled glimpses of the Derelict and Space Jockey platform to get me really excited about this dubious concept. Much more. So, until Scott can show me something that guarantees this to be something other than a cynical return to a premise based on fan-fic, I remain skeptical. Your everlovin', -MNG
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST
The space jockey chair doesn't appear to have the space jockey in it! What's that metallic looking guy to the right of the chair?
by DrBathroomMD
I think you just answered your own question. Look at the size of that guy. 2+2=4. Eh?
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You're both probably right (although it could make a lot worldwide). Still, they need to look at it this way (I know they won't, but they should): is this movie going to do that well even as a PG-13? It's obviously aiming for the ALIEN fans, who you're going to piss off with a PG-13. I don't see families going to this in droves like a Transformers movie. You might attract a few extra teens, but I doubt it's "hip" enough to make much of a difference. I honestly don't think PG-13 is going to make it THAT much more money, ya know?
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I have to keep reminding myself this is FOX we're talking about here. So yeah, you're all probably right. We won't get the REAL Prometheus until Blu-Ray.
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Ratings are for children, old women, and irresponsible parents
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Do you cry yourself to sleep at night? Or is this an act and you get off from being insulted. Is a film better in a country it gets a higher rating? For instance is Gremlins better in the UK where it was a 15 or in Europe where it was a PG???
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are you saying this will be another Ridley Scott Director's Cut movie type of deal? i though that shit had ended with KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. it still pisses me off that i didn't saw that movie's director's cut in the theaters, where it belongs.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST
Player: m6y, yeah that wide shot of the ship flying is gorgeous!
by Lakewater
Scrubbing through it @ 1080p and noticing the ship's shadow on the cloud below it. Fucking nice!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST
you guys ever though that maybe this movie doesn't need any other rating then PG-13? that that rating works fine for the movie?
by AsimovLives
i undrstand the pro-R rated argument, of which i'm quite sympathetic. i would naturally be on that side, and itseems to go in hand with the previous aliens movies, specially ALIEN. But it could just be that the PG-13 is enough and good already for this movie. Perhaps PROMETHEUS can work with the PG-13 rating without compromises. Though a naked sweaty Theron doing push ups would had been very nice. That's by far the most convincing for the R rating, since the USA rating systems is so pussy in regard to nudity.
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The Space Jockey was fossilized. It better have already been dead by hundreds of thousands of years ago when this movie begins.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST
ihatetalkbacks, Alien movies are inherently R-rated material
by Mattman
I'm not against the PG-13 rating... plenty of movies fit snugly within that rating... but no ALIEN movie should be PG-13. These are gruesome tales that should shock and disturb you... not mildly unsettle you.
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pause the Space Jockey chair rising and there is a big bald human/slightly alien man standing to the right. Did read Ridley say that what we thought was the Space Jockey was actually a suit. Sounds a bit ominous!
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cut back on the caffeine, kid, it'll stunt your growth
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Color me excited. Only trailer released this week that's got me wanting more.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST
Bad Space Jockey Fossil Record = flames on Optimus, Nipples on batsuit, etc...
by spire_walk
Sorry had to do it.
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since Phantom Crevice. TDKR,Hobbit and this - cant wait.
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where it was a 15: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gremlins-DVD-Zach-Galligan/dp/B00004R84L Anyway the question was hypothetical... good to see the spittle is affecting your typing. Can you put a complete list of things you hate so I do not have to read your other posts to find out? You dont like me probably Anything that is not R except PG Hate PG 13 most of all Hate women Hate yourself Anything else to add... your mother, mummified remains you keep in your attic? All the faeces you have saved in jars in a self loathing hoarding fetish?
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Enjoy your stay.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST
oh, and to the fucknuts that say the trailer is "underwhelming trailer"
by Darth_Kaos
Fuck Off, and go watch the TDKR trailer for the two thousanth time and continue to live in your world mediocrity. That's an old school trailer, a trailer that doesn't give away anything. Go watch the trailer for the first and best "Alien" movie. Same quick cuts and wording.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST
Looks exciting and fun, plus that quickie on Charlize's ass is fantASStic. Plus fassbender. But not his ass.
by smudgewhat
I'm There
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Every single pixel is being poured over this week - and leading to all kinds of speculation. Love it, sure helps pass the time before I leave work tomorrow for holidays.
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your sublime mastery of the English language, not to mention your critical thinking and debate skills led me to believe you're an ADD-addled tween who just recently discovered his penis you go with your bad self
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST
@polarized: The 'Engineer' sits on the... wait for it... Terraforming Gun and it comes alive and harnesses him to it.
by Lakewater
That's what that exoskeleton-looking material is... a harness! Just throwing out ideas here.
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it's your kryptonite. You sound like the person that says "Im not racist but..." Good to see you did not have to correct me about the self hating though. I hope you one day get help.
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...then they had better explain why it was "fossilized" in Alien, fused to the chair. Didn't those guys even say, "Looks like it's been dead a long time." Unfortunately this one point gives me LOST vibes--and Lindelof is associated with Prometheus too--when the cave skeletons on the Island were at first thought to be a few decades old but turned out to be much older. Sort of same issue but with reverse age problem. The only other logical reason aside from age that it would appear "fossilized" could be that something happened to dissolve/fuse it to the chair, and maybe also dissolved the urns to reveal the eggs that the Nostromo come across. But anyway. Looks freaking great regardless and I'll be there.
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That's for sure.
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If you paused at 35 sec, there's a woman in bed with the dude hunched over with his hands to his head. She has black marks on her legs... much like we see the chick later who collapses in the med bay.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
I'm blown away by the awesom trailer. But man, I don't want our "God" and creator to be a 10ft bald white guy who looks like Mr. Clean!
by Cureguy
I hope he is somehow just a mutated crew member of the Prometheus and the real Space Jockey shos up somewhere. Also, it looks like there are some Alien designed "sleep pods" on the floor next to the "telescope" on the platform.
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http://io9.com/5870560/frame+by+frame-breakdown-of-the-prometheus-trailer-who-is-that-man/gallery/1 Shudder... (in the good way)
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Dec. 22, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST
Darth_Kaos - You're right, it's not underwhelming. It's shitty.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
And it's the very definition of mediocrity. But feel free to tickle my balls some more!
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you fall deeper and deeper in every ones estimations... I think Ill just ignore you from now, that will probably hurt you more than any self realisation.
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sppppppluuuurrrrrrffffffffff
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST
So, after this, will they keep insisting this is just vaguely related to Alien?
by hank henshaw
Why are they doing that? everything screams of Alien in this, even the title's letters present themselves like those from Alien. So there are two options: a) They want it to remain a surprise, that it is a prequel to Alien, which is silly in this day and age of the internetz... or b) They are aware there are several continuity problems with aliens, so if the fanbase complains they can always defend themselves with "it wasn't really a prequel".
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this trailer is not doing anthing for you?
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It looks like his skin fades into a darker color away from his extremities. Although that might be just the way it looks in the picture and it may in fact be a skin tight suit. I love how I really have no idea what is going to happen in this movie. There is a ton of speculation, but nobody really knows anything concrete. This is a rare event.
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Gonna be the main headfuck in this film..trust me..
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how precocious you are
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looks like the original "U" shape to me. don't know what the "broken ring" people are looking at...
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..just like the supposedly leaked synopsis. It's a smorgasbord of planetary life. Still spewing here.
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No, not in the least. Believe me, I want this to be great but I remain skeptical of the premise... which is how this film will live or die (writing/acting-wise). So far, this looks no different than a PWS Anderson flick which, as I've said, leaves me underwhelmed.
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Am excite.
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in the shot at 43 seconds you can see the break is kind of on the top right but it's partly obscured...it's not falling straight down it's falling down sideways...the front is bottom corner left...break in ring top corner right...but the gap is being blocked by the angle
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST
also the guy in pain at :42 is Logan Marshall Green
by Raskolnikov_was_framed
you can see the end of his character name "Holloway" on his helmet or snoopy cap
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But if you pay attention to the details, it looks at least 50/50 that the story of the space jockey is going to be disappointing, like possibly Darth Vader created C3PO disappointing.
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Best trailer ever made. I seriously got wood. For various reasons.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST
Well look who's standing in the blue planetary hologram... it's Meredith Vickers (Charlize).
by Lakewater
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST
@lakewater - that's bold, but I cannot see how it could be too different from that!
by Kris Downes
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close but not quite...that's definitely David...short blond hair and man/android body
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST
Looks incredible in 1080..way more stylish than the Hobbit or Dark Knight, visually
by quantize
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Dec. 22, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST
raskolnikov_was_framed: ...analyzing... ...analyzing... ...analyzing...
by Lakewater
You sir, are correct! That hologram tells a lot about the strangers occupation. That's a pretty bad-ass interface!
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but earth was always referred to as a shithole, so maybe this brings about the beginning of the end
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This movie looks epic. Though I don't know how you can't have the Alien in it, but oh fucking well Fox Studios killed that poor beast a long time ago. So good for you Sir Ridley. I see a lot of clean free standing cylinders indicative of the Alien Eggs from the Alien movie. They're surrounding a massive statue of a humanoid face as seen on the poster. Are these some sort of bio weapon pods that gets a sample of human DNA creating the Alien Xenomorph species to wipe out humanity? I can easily see those sleek casings mutating into the Eggs. The Alien fan inside me wants it so, but really it's the not knowing that makes this movie a must see for me and I can live without the Xenomorph. I'm getting a serious Mountains of Madness in space feeling from Scott's comments of possible consequences of vivisection for the human crew members and the giant Mr. Clean pulling up the Cock/Pilot Chair up out of the floor makes me easily see this guy ripping apart Humans in the name of science. This has been a great week for Trailers.
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this movie will end with the Disc Jockey getting into his chair, and the audience will know there's an alien inside him. Don't ask me how, but that's my theory.... also... the trailer, if you still frame it one frame at a time, clearly shows one of the crew memebers apparantly morphing into an alien creature... also, there is a disc jockey sanse helmet to the right of the screen when the Title Card is revealed.
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Yes the events are 30 years before Alien, but I reckon the Space Jockey will head back in time with a ship full of xeno-eggs in an attempt to commit mass genocide of the human race. Noomi will of course intervene, and he'll go crashing back to LV-426...but million of years earlier...a facehugger will attack him, he'll chestburst and voila...well, that's my take on it!!
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the most truly horrifying aspect of 'Alien' was that the cocooned crew were being transformed into xenomorphs--something that goes entirely against Cameron's take--and that Ridley is going to place this yuck-worthy phenomenon front and center. Check out the deleted scene on YouTube.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST
@ono: The grey urns and the eggs are completely seperate because...
by Lakewater
.. the egg room in ALIEN didn't have the head statue. I'll bet this becomes like a Jurassic Park scenario where the xenomorph breaks out of confines and survives in hostile territory (which we won't see). They'll probably show an urn tipped over at the end and there we will see an organism taking its form-cut-to-black.
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Thesecond lady running from the debris near the end of the trailer looks a lot like joanna cassidy. is she in this, or is that a coincidence?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST
I'm glad Ridley is sh*tting on ALL of the subsequent sequels...
by marineboy
Ok, Aliens was ok - but a formulaic action film. The others...just forget it - a mish mash of rushed, unfulfilled ideas, badly executed (poor Vincent Ward) Ridley is the only man with intelligence to realise the themes of Alien were far deeper than guns blazing and chestbursting... I'm glad he's saying f*ck you to the concept of the Queen...let's see where this one goes, it could pertain more to the original vision of the Xeno's story than we may imagine :)
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have people forgotten this picture? http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375350_173959249367807_111092022321197_309252_1332379844_n.jpg looks like a spacejockey corpse...
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'Like the original Star Wars or Alien, just a bunch of blank walls and blinking lights, which was cool back then' Barring one room in Alien (the "Mother" room), what you're saying just doesn't really correspond to either of those movies. Both of them were a quantum leap over everything that had come before, embracing a dirty, gritty, battered, functional look (Alien especially). Alien in particular still looks magnificent. The only thing in that movie that looks anachronistic now is the smoking.
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starts with them discovering ruins and dead space jockeys. find one alive (is he already infected, wounded? we don't know) and they steal his secrets, he attacks. along with all the other things described in the 'fake' synopsis. real fake, eh?
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now it's assumed that's a discarded Space Jockey suit...and they bring back the helmet which is biomechanical...the real space jockey sans suit can be seen on the right of the screen when the chair is being raised up
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They have to make it bright for the 3D to work. So now the dark thrilling atmosphere is gone.
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It ends up showing less than the sum of the pre-trailers, but the soundtrack and the editing make it look just stunning.
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The credits list 'and Charlize Theron'. That usually means the actor is not the main character but is too famous to be listed in the middle ranks of the credits.
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Instead of trying to do a straight linear prequel ala George Lucas, Scott may be trying to mix unrelated elements into the storyline. So it may have about fifty percent of the plot which will be familiar to fans who have watched Alien(though not necessarily Aliens) and the rest which will deviate from what we are familiar with. For example, the xenomorphs that we all know may be changed completely in Prometheus. Instead of having acid based blood, it may be similar to humans. Not saying this will happen, but even this trailer still leaves much up to speculation.
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Now THIS is a movie! this is what i been waiting for. not that g@y Hobbit crap. Dark Knight Rises trailer was underwhelming. now THIS is a freakin movie trailer. I cannot wait for this film. Ridley is one of my idols (i myself am a music video/commercial director here in NYC). the shots in this trailer are gorgeous. the space ship crash...the guy rubbing his head in silouette (classic ridley right there)...just everything is SLICK! ridley was pissed when they told him he fell off and lost his touch after bombs such as body of lies and robin hood. even myself wondered if he still had it in him or would he spend his 70's and 80's (if he lives that long) releasing mediocre work. well he apparently wants to show the haters how its done. that he still has it. dont piss the legend off. the last time he had something to prove and was pissed off on a shoot, he made Blade Runner.
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the "and" credit is actually a very good place to be...Noomi is the main female character, Fassbender is the main male character...after that the characters have far less substantial roles...except the "and" credit is a way to equate Charlize with Fassbender and Noomi
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST
Killer. Love the return of the siren from the classic Alien trailer. As for the jockeys/Engineers...
by reflecto
...judging by the glimpse of what is likely the actual Engineer humanoid outside of the "jockey" suit in the "throne room," I'm thinking the giant head in the ampule room is a shrine/temple to the Engineers - with the head being made in their image. I'll bet cash money that giant head closely resembles the Engineer's own face.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
Refresh my memory. Was there a shot somewhere with blood on Fassbender's finger?
by Lakewater
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Please don't cut this down to a PG-13. R-rated genre films can make shittons of money. See The Matrix series, Terminator series, Gladiator, etc.
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or it could be a great way to disguise who's the lead in the movie and the final survivor (like in john Carpenter's TNHE PRINCE OF DARKNESS). but i guess the best bet is that Noomi Rapace plays the movie's de facto lead.
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Moody and hints of the story has my pandorian mind swirling.
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I'm so there.
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After the cursefest of Aliens (which greatly enhanced the film), a lack of swearing would strike me as dumbed down and insulting to the audience.
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BRING IT!!!
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someone posted it earlier, but they left a space and it didn't work. look at that guy and tell me there isn't more to his skin than being nude- a suit of some sort. http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr48/bullitt411/prometheus.jpg
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there are 'cryo' chambers around the 'telescope'..at least 3. 2 are still sealed, the one on the left is open. you can assume our 'man' came out of that one. those things were not in ALIEN when the crew investigated, so you can assume they fold or slide away. why do they need spare pilots? is that these people's only purpose? are these the three pilots the leaked script says the prometheus crew finds (two dead, one alive)
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST
look even closer- are the chest areas of the chambers busted out?
by zom-bot.com
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST
When my love of a movie depends on whether a ship is a U or a broken ring...
by Executor
...that is the day I will stop watching movies and devote the rest of my days to figuring out where my life went wrong.
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...once again you prove what a tasteless pre-teen troll you really are. Off. There's a place you can fuck!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST
remember in ALIEN- the hole in the floor of the pilot chamber-
by zom-bot.com
even then they commented it was melted out by something (it was a foreshadowing to alien blood of course)- so wonder if we are going to see that happen in this- xeno busts out of pilot, and either he, a crew survivor or debris from wrecking takes out a rather giant chestburster-thing right there on the floor. if they don't explain that acid-made hole that the nostromo crew climbed through, they are being sloppy.
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How does this look like a Paul WS Anderson movie?? Because it has people in space suits? You can easily tell the production value/cinematography and aesthetics are waaay above anything that guys ever done. And the trailer gives fuck all away in terms of story so I don't see how you made that connection, unless you're just making assumptions and speculating off of the leaked synopsis's and unverified info on the Internet. You say you're worried about the "premise" but what "premise" are you talking about?? The only official thing I've read is the extremely ambiguous summary released by fox and the fact that this has to do with the space jockey. If that worries you then to each his own I guess, sounds pretty fuckin cool to me. Anyway I think the mistake most people are making is looking at this as an Alien film, which its not really, instead why don't you look at it as a return to SciFi from a man who made two of the best SciFi films ever made.
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the proper details are all there. the only difference is that, strangely enough, the pistons on the side of the 'scope of the new one are more squared and machine looking. the ones on the ALIEN version are more rounded and bone like. that's the only difference i see. but maybe covers get knocked off the pistons, or maybe, being biomechanical, movable and all, they shrivel taut when the machine is 'dead'... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/TPQr1GxS5NI/AAAAAAAAW_A/UzwwAR8kKwo/s1600/5733896.jpg
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thats a pretty good comparison!
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The chair is seen travelling through the floor so there could be a few layers to the ship. Also for there tpo be one hole and many eggs it suggests they are using the Aliens Queen reproducitive system as there are too few characters in Prometheus we have seen either alien or human to transform to eggs. It also leaves the transformations theme to be taken by the Space Jockeys rather than the aliens. I am thinking that the derelict is a massive antena that is a conduit etc that terraforms on an massive scale. That is why the ship is up ended so it can "transmit" so to speak. After all the smoke and mirrors that has hapened could this not be a massive misfire not to have the Alien in it? Even as an extended cameo? The noises and font and styling are all so eager to point to the film that it would be fool hardy not to show them? Now we know who the composer is - does any one know the extent of Gigers involvement in this one?
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Yea, really people - an O or U shaped ship will not make or break the film for me, or you (I hope). Looks fantastic!! So happy Ridley is doing sci fi again! Just hope the "epic" "ideas" Ridley keeps talking about live up to the hype. I would love to see Tree of Life type space visuals in this. I thought those were truly stunning.
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In the trailer we see acid dissolving a guy's helmet. Then later you see the guy screaming as his face looks like it's beginning to blister. May be related to the hole in the floor.
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I might try and go unspoiled for this one. Movies are definitely better that way.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST
spire- ah yeah- that makes sense- wonder if a crewman is attacked there
by zom-bot.com
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST
seems like the human tampering or betrayal may infect the Jockey tech
by zom-bot.com
- with the xeno/corruption....and by default, the jockeys as well, since they meld with it.
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I love all the speculation. Can't wait for the flick. Just rewatched the trailer in 1080p, double size and freeze framed the scene with the cockpit and the bald guy (much like the pic posted earlier), and if you ask me, the tall bald dude seems to have Xenomorph-like skin. I mean, look at the arms. It's almost like a more humanoid xenomorph body but with a pale humanoid head. Maybe this guy undergoes some sort of metamorphosis and evolves into the first Alien we know and love.
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Reading some of the speculation and watching the clips, I fear that Spaihts' explanation of the Jockey will be a profound disappointment. From the trailer I sense: 1. There is no jockey in the chair when it rises from the floor. 2. At least one human appears to be in the process of a transformation. 3. The short sequence showing Rapace examining a Jockey skull shows no tension, indicating that the sequence likely comes early, foreshadowing an event to come. 4. The exploding ship seems to have more in common with the exploration ship than the Jockey vessel. 5. The Jockey "monolith" (I'll explain) seems more a structure that collapses than a vessel. 6. If a jockey is the builder, why the giant HUMAN head? SPOILER SPECULATION BELOW I think the plot will, sadly, end up a cliche. Humans discover an alien structure and explore. They activate it and one or more are transformed INTO mutants (the jockey is a mutated human, not an alien) . A Battle ensues that destroys the explorers' ship and topples the monolith.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
@mr. nice gaius 'this looks no different than a PWS Anderson flick'
by Brian Hopper
That's low, dude.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
Unrelated note: There are no longer ANY video stores in my city
by Autodidact
I'm totally fucking annoyed at humanity. Stopped by the video store on the way home to rent a couple blu-rays, and like every other store in town has done this year, they were having a closing sale where the pre-owned discs are priced higher than new copies at any other store ($30+ at "buy one get one free" and it's the crappiest selection you've ever seen). It's no longer possible to rent a movie on disc in my town of close to 200,000 people. This annoys the fuck out of me because I really like to rent a couple blu-rays every 2nd weekend or so. This makes me hate people in general a bit more, especially people who have HD screens and blu-ray players but are in love with their fucking Netflix/on-demand low quality bullshit. "It's in 1080p!" .. yeah what's the fucking bitrate you dumbasses!?
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i looked at it on apple and slowed it down and there are two women the first i can see is charlize, but the second one i swear looks like joanna cassidy. she has dark hair.
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This has all happened before, it will happen again.
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It's Noomi Rapace...the main character
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being Noomi's character name
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST
@wrx: "She has dark hair." Do you still not know who that is? *tisk-tisk* Do your homework. Starts with an "N".
by Lakewater
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1) What the hell is "fan geek" about this? Scott's original "Alien" film was a massive success - a science fiction movie people love the world over. Cameron's sequel, the same. There's nothing specifically "fan geek" about "Alien". What is wrong with you? 2) Were you brutalized by a film geek or something in your life? Divorced by one? Did one murder your parents or something? It's the only way one could rationalize your weirdly vitriolic posts.
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THAT WAS FUCKING AMAZING !!!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST
In that picture you can actually see where the Space Jockey Helmet comes down over his head, its attached to the chair
by ajt2111
Look at the chair, right there where is head would go is what we thought was the space jockeys head in the original alien. It is a helmet
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST
@lakewater You're right, just noticed the ship's shadow in the clouds!
by Brian Hopper
Awesome detail.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST
Picture with helmet highlighted. Space Jockey's skull his just his helmet
by ajt2111
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/prometheus.jpg/
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How are they getting away with this?!?
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Anyone have any theories about the saucer shaped ship appearing at the :39 mark?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST
Yeah, that saucer-ship is intriguing. As is right before that when Charlize Theron appears to be ripping her
by Brian Hopper
clothes off (?). Yum.
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One of the spoilers that Ridley Scott let slip in an early interview was that this was a crazy version of the future, different to the Alien movie, as there was a giant disembodied head which piloted the spaceship. Also, it seems that the space jockey room is in fact the navigation room because if you back up the trailer to the :42 mark, you can see a map of the heavens and this is the same room the space jockey chair rises from. It's all exciting stuff and it is good to see that they are using HR Giger's biomechanical ideas again.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST
It looks like Ridley will get the Alien franchise back on track with this movie
by ray a
It will prove to be the final piece that will make this one of the great sci-fi trilogies ever made. (Alien 3 and Resurrection don't exist in this dojo!)
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Book it.... She is the offspring of the space jockey and the space horse...
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...those are most impressive hindquarters indeed.
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The horse shoe shaped derelict more of a machine to terraform in an instant rather than a craft. As they are different craft the crew go after the technology rather than the transport.
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...spotted! Okay, so I hope I'm the first to notice but I checked out the original film's space jockey set to compare with the new in the trailer... And so, underneath the S of Prometheus, you can spot a guy with a meccha-skinsuit watchamacallit and he doesn't look terrestrial. On another note, the fact that the end credits state "and Charlize Theron" means that she either comes late or departs early (ala Kris Christopherson, hope I'm wpelling it wrong)... Finally, can I just say that I find my inner fanboy more and more ebbing away, waning if you will (the years, what have you?), that I find your superlative, superfluous praise of TDKR's trailer somewhat overblown but... I might have cum a river to my people on this one. This is what movies are about: not franchises (well, yeah but not really), not tentpoles (okay, sure, but this won't make that much money) but excitement at something entirely new! And I will see this two weeks before you do (if you're in the US). For once, and for the most important film of the year (semi-tied with The Hobbit), I will see this horrible piece-o'-work-master before you! Then again, it might suck and I'll have to watch it in bloody 3D (emphasis on bloody) anyway. And even if it's native, 3D sucks battery life out of me (watched Hugo tonight, had to keep an eye closed to enjoy Richardson's gorgeous compositions, seriously 3D sucks water out of a techno desert).
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...rent Two Days in the Valley. She's young, she strips... and it's really not a very good film. That said, she's young and not altogether hideous.
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I'been waiting for Ridley Scott to do what he did back in 1979 since then and it looks like it might have actually been worth the wait! As far as asimovlives the John Cater trailer didn't sell me on the movie with Led Zeppelin but their trying to keep with the look and feel of the books did.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST
I just have to say it once... Wasn't there a story this week where Ridley Scott said there would be no Xenomorphs in this flick... Not hating..Just saying..
by darthSaul666
That trailer makes me think that could be a bullshit statement...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST
Even more important than an appearance of Mr. Space Jockey...
by Ted Knight
is the rhythmic bouncing of Charlize Theron's glorious saggers ricocheting off the ships cold steel floor grating while grunting and moaning her way through a set of naked push ups. I don't care, have ole Space Jock counting them off for her if you like. There was a snippet of the rumored nude calisthenics scene in that trailer I saw at right around the :44 mark, correct?
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the one from the Prometheus' crew? wtf?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST
A mutated android that just happens to grow to the exact size necessary to fit in the map room chair.
by Ted Knight
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If the humans are using wormholes to travel to distant planets it is quite possible that while the film may start a hundred years in the future, the bulk of it may take place on a distant planet several million years in the past. The crew may have been sent on a one way mission into history. fifty years later when alien takes place, improvements in faster than light travel may mean the nostromo reaches the Archeron without such time distortion, thus, The crew of the nostromo find a fossilised space jockey. The Derelict crash we witness in the trailer happens millions of years before Ripley ever gets there, this would also explain why the planets atmosphere seems different. This would also tie into the themes of evolution as clearly the "urns" in this trailer are protoforms for the Alien eggs. Access to our DNA evolves the Space Jockeys biomechanical technology into the Aliens we know and love. Also, we have biologicals and synthetics traveling to this planet. Over millions of years the space Jockeys tech combines these into the biomechanical forms we recognise, this would explain why the chair and hall ways looks less organic than the ones in Alien...
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movie doesn't look that great, however
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One thing I didn't enjoy about the trailer is the Derelict seemingly crashing and then rolling along the ground like a giant donut ready to crush them all... for some reason that just struck me as silly, maybe it will work better in the film, but it was the least "alien" part of the trailer for me, felt too much like an action set piece.
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Holy shit you've seen the movie ????
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BNo you're correct, Scott has said explicitly that the Alien as we understand it is not in this movie. Only it';s "DNA" either figuratively or literally. I personally suspect that after we have seen this film we will know more about the origins of the alien but we won't be seeing it in the movie. That said, there was a set report a while back which included references to people in traditional Alien costumes. But I honestly don't think we'll be seeing them. Ridley says they're done.
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Is that some sick Brian Cox type of joke? Surely you mean Tom Skerrit.
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Once again? Huh?! I didn't know that we've already had the pleasure... Dumb cunt.
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Not worried about it but I am with you. The alien films have always made strong links between synthetics and aliens. There has always been a level of empathy between the mechanical androids and the biomechanical aliens. Ash empathises with the alien, Bishop empathises with the alien, Call Hates them for what they represent but has a deep "emotional" connection to them. I personally like the idea of Ridley exploring the idea that we created the Alien, not just as hosts, but by introducing alien technology to the blueprint of biomechanoids through our own attempts in synthetics... would kind of fit with his obsession with "what is human" too. Personally though, I like the idea.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST
Since its not a horror movie, not sure why a PG-13 rating is such a problem. And since the protags look to be scientists and not space marines (or working class stiffs ala Alien), explicit language isnt really appropriate.
by dahveed1972
If the payoff for a huge budget was fewer f-bombs and slightly toned down gore, who cares?
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I always wondered how it could be that the facehuggers just happen to fit humans perfectly and we could be the perfect hosts. It really made no sense at all. Maybe this will explain that humans were made to be nothing more than hosts ? Maybe I am reading too much into things..
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Quote: "That's low, dude." Yeah, I did kinda go for the jugular there, didn't I?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:43 p.m. CST
Question: Has anyone involved in the franchise ever explicitly stated that the xeno's were "created" as weapons? Or that they are actually bio-mechanical? I like both ideas.
by dahveed1972
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I'm a long time fan of Alien/Aliens, the other two sequels not so much. Anyway, it's exciting to see this universe explored again ... and from the director of the original no less. I think we've beat the dead horse that is the shape of the SJ ship. It's the same, asymmetric design. The room with the SJ (the mysterious humanoid), I suspect he's going to raise the chair, get in, and kind of bio-merge with the whole assembly, becoming part of the ship. That's the whole point, that their tech is essentially living: the ship, the suit, etc. I think the egg chamber is where they're growing proto-forms, like basic starting life forms that get encoded based on the environmental requirements of where they'll be seeded. Then this kind of goes back to some of the leaked script(s) concept: the alien will turn out to be some kind of accidental, mutated merging of an intended species and humans. Kind of a look what happens when the basic human tenants of kill, eat, reproduce are combined into a simple perfect life form. Anyway, awesome trailer, can't wait.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST
I really really hope the story doesnt involve time travel.
by dahveed1972
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just enough of a tease.. excellent trailer
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST
@mr. nice gaius 'I did kinda go for the jugular there, didn't I?'
by Brian Hopper
Yup, that kind of brutality is uncalled for. There are rules, even in war.
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No. "biomechanoids" was coined by Giger before he was brought onboard Alien. It's been adopted by the alien films and as the franchise continued has become more explicit. There are suggestions of it in the original film ( molecular acid, hiding in machinery ) but no one has explicity said it. I believe that the Alien itself is silicon based. I believe the first reference to the Alien as a weapon is in the novelisation of Alien where Ash speculates that may be their purpose, again, it has been adopted into the franchise without actually being cannon. A bit like the Space Jockeys "trunk"
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It didn't tell us anything.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST
I hope Ridley doesn't just rehash the first rate creepy opening title sequence in Alien.
by Ted Knight
It will just tarnish my love of the original with the terrible emptiness of space as the background, the opening credits leisurely forming the title "Alien" as Jerry Goldsmith’s superbly unsettling and jarring score sets you on edge. Audiences had never seen or heard anything like it, and it set exactly the right tone of dread and disorientation that would permeate one of the greatest movies ever made. It's bad enough this film is already stealing it's premise from an original property like Alien, I just don't want Ridley to rely on ideas he had from the 1st and simply try and trump what was already near perfection the first time around. But since this trailer already echos the look and feel of the Alien theatrical trailer I'm not feeling overly optimistic about this.
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Time travel has always been part of the alien mythology though. Hybernating through space travel, Waking up years after everyone you know is dead, Ancient fossilised technology, it depends how it's done, I don't want to see time travel gimmicks, but being "lost" in time is a theme running through all the films.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST
I liked the trailer. Man I'm a day late on this TB, but I least I dont write fact after every sentence.
by ToughGuyRizzo
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Dec. 22, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST
But it was a good day for trailers this week. Like em' all or not, we got some trailers
by ToughGuyRizzo
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST
And shit, we get some new Dr Who this weekend. Fuck it.
by ToughGuyRizzo
Why did you click to expand? TB'ers barely write anything anymore in the comment box. Happy Holidays fuckers!
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But what if it's a true sequel ( prequel ) a true continuation of the emotional aesthetic of the original film ? all 4 aliens films have had their own style. None are really tonal sequels, If this one is I could get behind that.
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All this massive story and the Space Jockey flies away only to be impregnated by a face hugger off camera. Why all the long story if that happens. Why have such a lavish back story for it to go no where? The aliens have to be introduced at some point for Alien to grow out of the story as a natural progression... It may only be in last quater but they will be there.
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Now, now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I do look at it as such. However, that doesn't mean I have to like the PREMISE of revisiting the ALIEN universe to unnecessarily deflate the myth/magic of the Space Jockey. Especially when the xenomorph is destined to not even make an appearance. As for the PWS Anderson barb, it may be a tad harsh but I think it's pretty self-explanatory if you admit to yourself that there is nothing really "new" in this trailer. I think a few of you are deluding yourselves just a wee bit.
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Could the expedition splinter over moral decisions and somehow David is part of a group that is betrayed? The betrayal results in him being lost millions of years in the past. In order to survive he mutates himself and as a result develops sentience and hatred for humanity. David in his exile develops a means for revenge. The biomechanical alien. Android=biomechnical so no one knows biomechanical like an android. Right? And the proto-matrix would allow him to manipulate the organic material of that world, which would be the most abundant building material available. The laser mist in Alien is what maintains the eggs viability. The orb over the waterfall is the time portal to Acheron (LV_426) millions of years ago.
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creates the humanoids we see in the trailer while he is lost and isolated millions of years in the past. After David passes due to decay his heirs carry on his experiments and also build the tremendous monument to him in the ampule room.
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- Transforming crew (into space jockeys?)<p> - Different details on/in the 'derelict' (possibly indicating that this is a different ship?)<p> - Humanoid space jockeys (Unfortunate)<p> I don't think what we're seeing is the original derelict, but rather a vehicle of the same type or class. I also doubt this film is set on LV-426 (Though I could be wrong.) I hope it's a decent film, but this trailer leaves something to be desired. <p> To the poster above, re: the ALIEN deleted scene. Dallas and Brett were being transformed into eggs, not xenomorphs; look a little closer at the shape formerly known as 'Brett'.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST
Ya know what? Don't be so fuckin picky. We're getting the original director returning. It's not the Thing prequel.
by ToughGuyRizzo
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:31 p.m. CST
Imagine the talkbackers (who know everything) if someone else was doing an Alien prequel?
by ToughGuyRizzo
But no, we have RIDLEY FUCKING SCOTT. Wait till you see the fuckin movie all-knowing (and not Harry knowles...nothing) talkbackers before you rant.
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I think it's great that Ridley is making this movie. I'm looking forward to it. But you nerds are way overreacting and this movie just isn't going to be that great. In fact, I'd rather see an original sci fi movie from Scott, this prequel sounds kind of stupid. I really don't give a fuck about the "Space Jockey." He even has a dumb sounding name. And there's no aliens in this. An alien movie with no aliens. Woop-de-fucking-doo!!!
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
captain rightwing, that is the same ship that crashed on LV 426. What other ship would it be?
by ToughGuyRizzo
If you don't own ALIEN, (or ALIENS) youtube it and it's def the same ship. at the 0:44 mark we get a clip of what the "space jockey" might be. The SJ was on that ship dude.
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Deluding ourselves? Is it really that hard to believe that some people actual enjoyed the trailer? It's a well done trailer, if it sucked I would say it sucked. What do I have to gain by being dishonest with myself? Truth is, there have been great trailers for shitty movies and vice versa. I have no idea if the actual film will be good but the trailer is a badass, well done trailer. It seems that you're the one deluding yourself in this situation since no matter how good the trailer was you would've disliked it anyway based off of your problems with the premise. If you're determined to dislike something, far be it from me to stop you, but save it. When the movie comes out and if it actually sucks, I'll be the first to say it, but the trailer itself is pretty fucking rad.
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How do you know the movie isnt going to be that great? Waaaaaaaait. Didn't Blade Runner fail at the box office? I believe in Scott more than I did Spielberg returning to Indy. Who do you believe in more, Pussy?
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And Harvey Dent.
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Biggest problem on AICN are morons who come out and claim they understand what a movie has to make. There is always some fucking asshole who says: "Movie has to make $300 million domestic and..." Shut the fuck up! You don't know shit. Why do any of you care about the box office anyway? Just enjoy movies for fuck sake. Studios make money from movies before they even fucking open from selling the rights. Then add in DVD/rental on top of that... So lets just stop with the box office prediction bull shit. It's really just pathetic on so many levels.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST
ALIEN "Fossilized" Jockey-Chair vs PROMETHEUS New & Clean Jockey-Chair
by Graphix67
Sure, the Space-Jockey of Alien appears to be hundreds or even thousands of years old. But if Prometheus does take place a mere 30 or 40 years before the events of Alien (as had been rumored during pre-production) it's possible that Scott may simply ignore any visual contradictions all in the name of artistic-license. Which would certainly suck but, I think it's a possibility. From the various interviews I've seen of Scott (although he wants to present a link to his original film) he doesn't appear to want to be a complete slave to the original Alien movie either.
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but the problem with another Alien-esque movie even if it'stylistically identical to the 1st is that we have had Alien ripoffs for over 30 years now. Pitch Black, Deep Blue Sea, Event Horizon, Deepstar Six, Split Second, Sunshine ...I could go on and on. As shitty as some of these similar films are, in atmosphere and plots they still borrow heavily from Alien's themes of isolation and rogue desperate characterisations. Not to mention we've had 30 years to watch and absorb the original countless times. So why does a revived premise with more HR Giger sexual symbolism need retelling? We've seen it already! I crave something NEW! Is that so misguided?
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I can't wait! It looks amazing! I hope Sir Ridley really nails it! (and it looks like he has, definitely!) Let's see, an ALIEN pre-quel by Scott, The Dark Knight Rises by Nolan, The Hobbit 1&2 by Jackson... 2012 is gonna be sick! What else am I forgetting...?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST
graphix67 so is this, or is this not, a prequel to Aliens?
by Ted Knight
it takes place before Alien and ends with hints about Alien, though the film itself is not directly related to Alien?
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST
stargrove: At least we're getting a movie from the source. No knock off. U want something like the THING prequel?
by ToughGuyRizzo
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The rebooted reboot of Spiderman
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I could really take any story and say "this has been done before". So I don't get that mentality. It definitely invokes a different feeling than any other SciFi trailer I've seen.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST
zardoz I too think it was a great week for trailers. Love em' or not
by ToughGuyRizzo
We got some good shit this week. And some new doc who airing on sat
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Since I've not yet seen the supposed script for Prometheus that's been floating around, I'm guessing that the 'space jockey' aliens seed the universe with the essence of the xenomorphic alien material. We'll discover that the origins of humanity stem from the big humanoid alien seen on the space jockey platform in the trailer. Also, it actually pays to know a bit about mythology, so if you look up Prometheus with Google, you will see this: "PROMETHEUS was the Titan god of forethought and crafty counsel who was entrusted with the task of moulding mankind out of clay." Kinda fits, eh?
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Stoned again! (But, honestly? The Avengers is looking pretty weak now that I've seen the new kids in town!) Yeah, I think Prometheus just shot up to my #1 must see movie in 2012!
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601: too much awesome coming in too fast.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST
Looks even more like PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES than ALIEN did
by MooseMalloy
It's going to be great.
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Nobody else noticed? It is kinda big.
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I'm not keen on yet another origin story if that's what's going on in the film. Been there, done that! The only interesting thing in it is The Lizard, but they should've used him in Pt. 3. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not excited at all for Spider-Man 2.0...
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Dude, as a trailer...it's totally underwhelming. That was my initial criticism and I'm sticking with it! There is nothing about that trailer that comes off as being unique to Ridley Scott. To me, that's a bit of a shame as it's intended to sell his return to sci-fi. All I see is a series of rapid cuts mixed with mood lighting and ominous music. Is it simply the appearance of the Derelict and the Space Jockey that's got you so jazzed? Because it can't be the assembly of this particular trailer. So, is it that hard for me to believe that people enjoyed it? Not really. I know what website this is. ;)
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I have not read this theory anywhere but, could this be a "re-imagining" of sorts??? Therefore, Scott can simply skate over any obvious contradictions. (Such as the non-fossilized Jockey Chair or the much cleaner, clearer and sunny looking LV-426 planet) That is of course if it is LV-426 or not! Just too many questions for one short movie trailer to answer I'm afraid.
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But first Alien and then Blade Runner? What, is Sir Ridley just got the nostalgies? Why the sudden urge to revisit past creations after 30 years? Is he just a defeated old man who just wants the attention back from the geek admirers hes long since thrown under the bus? Part of me believes hes always wanted to move past the identity as a "genre" director but never could quite attain the respect and adulation of the artsy fartsy circle of of mainstream critics and audiences. So, in a last hurrah he's back for another round of fervent fangeek worship that will once again instill in him a lost feeling of relevance and importance. Plus he just wants a movie that will actually draw for once, God love 'em.
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...how does it invoke a different feeling than ANY other sci-fi trailer you've seen? Let me strap myself in...
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Dec. 22, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST
There's no reason this cannot be a different Space Jockey.
by Royston Lodge
The USA lost two space shuttles. Why couldn't the Space Jockeys lose two of their ships?
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WTF is going on? The fucking guy has a long career, gave us some fantastic Sci-Fi and cause he wants to come back to to re-visit this shit you dudes are skeptical? Fuck it man. He's isn't George Lucas. (Ok, even tho he fucked it up for everyone which is why there is hate on any prequel) But at least see the fuckin film before the hate. BTW, AICN has line breaks now. Just use the enter key and you dont even have to do the < br > anymore. More people will read you posts TB'er's!
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After all it started as a direct Alien prequel, but Scott went through several revisions and now, from what's been released and officially stated, it's the same feel and universe, but not a direct prequel ...perhaps, maybe, I can't really say I suppose.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
stargrove Scott is winding down. Probably gonna retire in a few years. If he wants to return to his roots, then fucks it. He has every right.
by ToughGuyRizzo
After you see the whole fuckin movie of Prometheus, then I'd love to read your review. Right now, we got 3 fanboy trailers this week. Not all of them are perfect, but I'm gonna see them and I'll post my shit after. For right now, if you haven't seen any of the films: Have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. (me included)
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I miss the pre-Someone to Watch Over Me Ridley, killed by the dual bombs of two of the best genre films ever... Dude was an artist of atmosphere.
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Man, I sure the fuck hope that the SJ is not the tall humaniod dude standing to the right of the chair. If that's the case, this totally blows the mysticism that the original had. It takes the alien (not the creature) right out of it. The main reason I like Alien so much is because it felt and looked so alien, so out of this world, so removed from us. And something that happened so long ago. Yes the SJ had a head and arms and was bi-pedal in nature, but that was the only similarity it had to humans. So the trailer implies that humans were present when the derelict ship crashed? If that is the same ship crashing? I don't like that at all. The timeline seems molded to fit humans in the same timeline so they could make a movie with humans and SJs. This takes place 30 years prior to Nostromo? So they time travel, wormhole or not? The trailer looks awesome, but I am seriously questioning what the storyline will be. I wanted to see an Alien prequel WITHOUT humans. What happened hundreds of thousands of years ago between these two species. Humans were not supposed to be apart of that. That's what makes that ancient alien ship so cool and that it still had a beacon and organic life on it after all that time.
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Simple explanation: High tech that melds his space suit onto the chair - or the suit "grows" out of the chair, covering him.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST
Here's hoping the Fassbender character is brutally murdered less than half way into the movie.
by Anti-fanboy
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A screeching orange cat. That cat was the scariest part of the 1979 trailer.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST
All this (interesting) speculation for Prometheus reminds me of...
by hank henshaw
all the speculation on these talkbacks after the release of the trailer and viral marketing for "Cloverfield". Sadly, 95% of the ideas talkbackers had were better than what we ended up getting in that movie. I know that no matter how bad (or good, it might be good!) Prometheus might turn out, it will never be as terrible as Cloverfield.
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You state clearly you have a problem with the premise then go on about how youre judging the trailer simply on it's own merit. Aight, well if that's the case and you don't like it then we'll agree to disagree. And to answer you're question on what's new about it to me? Well it looks like the first epic hardcore SciFi film of the 21st century, it looks like what I wished avatar was. It's clearly a dark, realistic take on the genre but not in a "moon" or "district 9" sense, it seems to be on a much bigger scale. Look at the wide shots of the outdoor environments (this whole trailer reeks old school Ridley Scott by the way, it's baffling that you can't see it) it obviously has a similar aesthetic to Alien but updated, with less of a horror vibe. What exactly were you expecting? I'm willing to bet you talked shit about this movie before the trailer was released (i dont frequent the site that often) and no matter what would've disliked it. But whatever.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11 p.m. CST
toughguyrizzo I don't object to his recent impulse to revisit the past.
by Ted Knight
After all, who gives a fuck if I do, but I get the distinct impression that many Ridley admirers are suddenly just gonna fall over and faint with joy no matter what kind of effort they witness in June 2012. He's earned some goodwill no doubt, but he has also squandered away a lot of it over the years. Plus, can a man in his 70's still bring the amount of youthful exuberance and passion as a hungry wide-eyed newcomer with fresh ideas? I hope so but let's deal with reality. So far we know it will deal with themes and places we have already seen and that the future of mankind hangs in the balance(haven't heard of that before). It seems to me quite frankly then that we are dealing with bloated, recycled science fiction cliche's. BUT, since Ridley delivered before in this universe I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I choose to hope and believe that this film will be awesome. If I'm disappointed later, so be it. Alright then, shutting the fuck up sir.
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Dec. 22, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST
Remember also that people seem to forget that the late great Dan O'Bannon was a big part of the genius behind Alien.
by Ted Knight
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If you look closely to the ship blowing up in the sky you can see it's not falling straight down, it's turning and your seeing it at an angle. The closest part to you is the front left of the ship. The back where the opening is, is kinda hidden. But look at the angled tips on the back, they are there. So this has to be the crashing of the derelict ship. Again why are humans present? Were we not there when it really happened but now we have time traveled to that event? And have changed history? That's stupid. Or were we there all along? That's stupid too.
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Visually the trailer looks outstanding and that's not really surprising. I'm just pessimistic considering that you could argue that the Alien film was like catching lighting in a bottle.
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Similar at least? The triangle size in relation to the to the other scars or whatever on the sculpture look about the same. Slightly afraid about too many "connections" if that's the mot juste.
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So much going on in this short trailer some of it looks impressive. Shame it will be PG13 but that's the commercial reality of Hollywood right now..... I predict around $200-250m in US alone perhaps closer to $300m if its exceptional. Internationally probably the same again so already Fox are close to getting their investment back along with a healthy profit & get to sell the other Alien movies to a new audience etc etc
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with a lot of the comments by hank henshaw, Gaius, Stargrove and even wynona. I think many of you guys might be setting yourselves up a bit. 90% of the speculation here will probably turn out to be far more interesting than the movie itself. Ridley Scott is a fine filmmaker and he's made some great movies...but I can't really think of any other than Alien that actually blew people away on first viewing. Even Blade Runner and Gladiator took time to grow on people. In the case of BR it basically took years. I really hope this film is as fresh and surprising as Alien was when it first hit. The trailer here is good...pretty typical for this kind of movie actually.... but I think ANY kind of trailer for this film would generate excitement from some of you. They could have shown fucking paint drying there would be people saying "erection!!." Really, you must learn to govern your passions, they will be your undoing. Remember.... TPM
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That's no way to live
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that this will be a genre redefining film with grand ideas and deep philosophical ramifications. But if it's not I'm sure that it will at least be a well shot, tense science fiction epic. That hopefully doesn't have cringe-worthy dialogue or blunt trauma political metaphor in the vein of Avatar. Or blue cat people. Damn blue cat people.
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I'm really excited to see this but must agree with rectal blowout. Hope the SJ is not too humanoid - kind of destroys the other-worldy mystery of the whole thing.
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Exactly my thoughts
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and he lived long and prospered
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After the Shit Trailers of John Carter and G.I. (Fuck me) Joe, we get this solid week, capped off with what will hopefully be the best sci-fi movie of the decade. I miss when they created entire universes and where not afraid to have a story take place in the distant future and in space. Thank you Mr. Scott.
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I can die a happy man.
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I don’t like the basic idea of involving humans in the story of the space jockeys and xenomorphs. The mystery surrounding the derelict spacecraft was my favorite part of ALIEN, and I don’t want that to be messed with. I have always imagined the derelict to be extremely ancient and completely alien, and the Nostromo crew to be the first humans to have had anything to do with it. What I am hoping is that Prometheus will present a story good enough to make me OK with losing some of the mystery of ALIEN. I think it has a real chance to be a good movie, but I’m really hoping that it turns out to be a great movie that actually complements ALIEN and makes me enjoy the original film even more (like the SW prequels should have done).
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST
There are 2 movies that scared that scared the shit out of me when I was 8, 9, or 10
by smudgewhat
Alien and The Shining. Alien is the only HBO movie I can rememer watching as we only had it for a year. I think I asked my mom to watch it with me. The surprise of the chest burst was 100% traumatic, which means the filmmakers succeeded. I think even at that age I sensed these working classers were set out to dry. Or not long after. I certainly empathized with them. (Eat me if you hate the politics. It is surely a sub-theme that the humans are disposable.) Total mood masterpiece. This invokes aspects of that. So I'm jazzed. Am currently drunk on Belgian beer. Hope that made sense.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST
That woman running in to the room with dirt on her looks like she got raped... By the Space Jockey?
by Particularly Hard Vato
Maybe she became an astronaut, flew up in to space, met an alien, and fucked it... People see her go by- "There she goes... Homegirl fucked a Martian...". But seriously- she looks like she just got raped.
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for the reasons I outlined above. Even if it's great. It's not the type of film that appeals to a wide enough percentage of the population. I mean, kids won't be begging their parents to take them to it, and most parents won't want to take their kids to it either. Also, as I said, Scott has a unique style that doesn't always wash well with a lot of people. Gladiator was the closest he came to something that really cut across the board...it worked for everybody- except kids maybe. But despite that men and women (and critics) of all ages from teen to senior could find something in there to dig. Don't get me wrong, Prometheus will do very well...especially if it's really good...but not the biggest movie of the year I don't think. Big adventure movies like Avatar, Star Wars or LOTR do the big numbers cuz they have a little bit of everything- suspense, thrills, chills, some humor etc. etc. The darkest movies to be massive hits were, well- The Dark Knight and Passion of the Christ. TDK hit high cuz it was a popular superhero, a sequel, and Heath Ledger and his death had a lot to do with it as well (and yes, I'm predicting that TDKR won't be as big a smash as the last one). Passion as stated earlier on this thread...had an army of Christian support. Oh, and The Exorcist...but that was something really different at the time. Otherwise, for the most part- dark, thriller type movies don't end up being the biggest films of any year. Big maybe...just not the biggest. Anyway, I'm rambling now... 'night
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if you're thinking about JAWS... more of an adventure movie- not dark- had lots of humor- kids really wanted to see it. Done
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... The mystery of the Force became little symbiotic ameoba... ... The briefly mentioned clone wars became a battle of stupid droids versus a New Zealander... ... Darth Vader became a little, whiny, bowl-cutted dunce.... And even though I will only ever watch the originals, some of the wonder was stolen away because I know how shallow and stupid Lucas' vision for the history was/is. As others have mentioned, I'm worried something similar could happen here. Ridley respects his audience far more than Lucas (and is a much, much better director in every respect), but his last few films haven't been that great, and the mystery of the Space Jockey and the fact it was barely touched on was part of its appeal.
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quote -science fiction film of the decade- quote -highest grossing film of the year- lol seriously. get real.
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Ash was sent to bring back the Alien. But the timelines are ok and nothing gets mismatched. Lets say that 30 years prior when humans first discovered the xenomorphs they discovered the same thing the Nostromo crew did. Basically the same thing twice. First crew discovers beacon, finds ship, finds facehugger, sees chestburster, bad-ass alien eats everybody except one. Survivor goes back to Earth. They send out Nostromo. No need to make a movie based on the first discovery, it would be a total rehash of the Nostromo experience. So how do you make the next Alien movie? Can't pick up where the fourth left off. Do a prequel. Well you can't like I stated above. I know, LETS CHANGE A BUNCH OF SHIT! Who cares if it involves stripping away the mystery of the SJ. Lets make humans important in the story. Mold it so that we are apart of a bigger story involving multiple species. Typical Hollywood. The Thing prequel did the same damn thing. Lets make a prequel but in order to make it work, lets change, or imply somethings to make it fit an American audience. When you watch the 1982 The Thing you are led to believe certain events took place. Well the same thing here. I was led to believe that the SJ ship crashed thousands of years ago. That this species is no where to be found. They may not exist anymore. Or where are they if they do? That humans and SJs have never met, and never will. A total fucking mystery. It's not so alien anymore.
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1. The Avengers 2. The Hobbit 3. The Dark Knight Rises 4. The Amazing Spider-Man 5. Men in Black 2 6. Skyfall 7. The Bourne Legacy 8. The Hunger Games 9. Prometheus
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The top 3 are locks for 300 million. Prometheus will be lucky if it crosses 150.
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now dont get me wong I said "Hopefully the best scifi movie of the decade" but honestly what movie currently released in the past 2-10 years would you say is the best Sci-fi movie? I don't know how old your are but I remember a time when we there was either really good or mediocre Space farring Sci-fi. Then Hollywood decided that the public no longer wanted to see aliens or space and it was all over the audiences heads and I dont think there was any original space faring Scifi from The Fifth Element to Pitch Black and hardly anthing good, so its good to see QUALITY film makers getting back into real scifi.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST
Note: Only 1 on this list is a contrived prequel or sequel
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Also, many aren't hard-core sci fi but loosely fit the genre. 1. Children of Men 2. District 9 3. Minority Report 4. Revenge of the Sith 5. Star Trek 6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 7. Moon 8. 28 Days Later 9. I am Legend 10. Avatar 11. Serenity I hope it's better than Avatar, but that's not a very big hurdle. If it cracks the top 5 I'd be impressed.
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I would humbly submit: Donnie Darko and subtract: Revenge of the Sith
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I said it wouldn't be "the highest grossing film of the year" Get it through YOUR pea-brain fuckwad. My point was that it's out of the ordinary for films with darker subject matter to end up becoming the highest grossing films of the year. I was specifically addressing the word "highest" I didn't say they don't do well at all now did I? The first Alien was a hit to be sure, but it wasn't the biggest film of that year and Fox even claimed at the time to have lost money....hence, they gave Cameron only a modest budget for a sequel SIX FUCKING YEARS LATER. Think about it. I'm not knocking movies with mature themes either...I'm simply presenting reality. Go peep the top ten movies of any given year, or the top ten movies of all time for that matter- and tell me I'm wrong. I'm not saying I'm happy about it, I'm just being honest asshole. I would expect you to know the difference. Don't worry bro, I'm sure your stupid alien movie will do fine. Step off, fucker
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and add maybe Stargate.
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THEY are the cause of everything that happens afterwards.
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Agree with most of your list. However, MIB3 and Bourne won't be in there for reasons that are pretty easy to figure out. They're both tired franchises and inside word seems to indicate they have troubled/bad scripts. Could be wrong, but my guess is they will get panned by critics well in advance of their release, which will translate to bad BO. Hunger Games won't make the top ten either for the reasons I outlined in my previous posts....in turn, I predict John Carter will be in there for the same reasons. I'm talking about the age range of 'potential' movie goers. HG has a narrow range, JC has wide age range- I'm saying POTENTIALLY- lets be clear (Don't want to confuse any more quantizes out there) I could be wrong but it seems safe to say that boomers & their kids/grandkids are probably more likely to go see JC and avoid HG. Sorry. You can scratch The Hobbit off the list as well because it comes out in December and a lot of it's gross will be earned in 2013. I won't speculate on the actual order or what else would be in there...probably a couple other surprises I'd guess.
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I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be the Phantom Menace of 2012.
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is a human in a suit. At about the midway point in the trailer you can see the helmet being investigated on a table.
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I have been waiting for this for over 20 years! I can't remember being this excited for a film in a long time. 2012 seems like one of those great 1980's years when you had all those great films back to back. IMO dark knight rises will still be the highest grossing film of the year.
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I don't wanna see more trailers, photos or anything of this peace of art. I want to go on this like Madonna in the 80': virgin. Is the most anticipated movie of the decade for me. And is Fassenber in it!! He should have won and Oscar for his play on "Eden Lake" years ago. BTW I rewatched recently "Alien" on blu-ray, looks gorgeous... and what a fucking masterpiece! Can't way enough... Thanks for the gift Sir Riddley Scott!!
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I meant Fassbender
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http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287 A month ago, everyone was claiming this synopsis was ridiculous and a fake. After seeing the trailer, I don't see anything that makes me think this is a fake. Could it be a fake? Sure. But I don't think it is.
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John Carter. And I'm sure a few more I missed, a comedy or animated movie here and there will be up there. Although I think John Carter will be a massive bomb and could struggle to make 100 million. I'd agree about Men in Black 3 but it has a nice release date at the end of May and it could do pretty well there. The new Bourne movie, might not do too well, who knows, we'll see. I actually dropped the Hunger Games pretty far from where the anticipation is at the moment. Apparently the book has a massive following, I can't figure it out, it just looks like a glorified Battle Royale, of course.
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People whinging about the SJ being a human, we see a space jockey skull being examined in the trailer. We see people mutating. We see what appears to be a mutated humanoid as the SJ console rises from the floor. Now how do we know that every single space jockey isn't mutated from a host species? That would fit the Alien theme perfectly. And now my head fuck: what if a human is impregnated before they are mutated into a space jockey? What if the Alien (queen I assume) which burst from the SJ was the first as we know it, a result of mankind dabbling in powers they don't understand?
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Perhaps waterboarding?
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Brian Cox?
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Love seeing the lettering appear in the trailer... old school style. I have been avoiding spoilers but I did read the one where Ridley says there are no aliens (xenomorphs) in it. This might leave PROMETHEUS with a problem. How do you follow one of the most iconic movie monsters ever made? Who or what is the baddie / villain in this film, and how can it seem anything but weak in comparison?
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Dec. 23, 2011, 5 a.m. CST
Hi guys I posted my Prometheus trailer review on Youtube
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
http://youtu.be/j6Fwjo2ZjeM
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whining cunts using up our oxygen...
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Dec. 23, 2011, 5:19 a.m. CST
Will the naked pushups be included in the R-rated director's cut?
by DynamixRo
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Now this is a trailer. Don't know what that other thing was the other day.
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Based on the trailer and what little I know of the plot from official sources, I'm predicting the film has something to do with man's creation of artificial intelligence (androids), having been created artificially ourselves. Perhaps this next evolution is our downfall. This would dovetail nicely with ALIEN and ALIENS, where androids figure prominently and appear to have a special interest in the xenomorphs.
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...sure there are a few shots in the trailer that can be matched to the synopsis, but it reads as lame fanfic made by someone who had seen a few production stills or trailer rough cuts. If it is real, it is the biggest mess in the world and I will be rolling my eyes all the way through the movie and the conveniences (Vickers is an Engineer!), contradictions (we're on the engineer planet. No, we're on earth. no, we're through the wormhole and crashing on the alien planet!), and plot holes (everything else.) Fake.
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the wormhole/time-travel-thing is just too much... and dear god just think about the crapy dialogues when some science crew member explains that stuff to the audience, that even the dumbest one finally udnerstands... that would be terrible!
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Dec. 23, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST
Let's get definitive - Alien: THEATRICAL or DIRECTOR'S?
by thefirerises
For years I was theatrical only. Totally refused to even look the DC in the eye. Then the Blus turned up. Thought "Fuck it, I'll give it a try..." I pretty much only watch DC now. Both of them are, of course, near-perfect filmmaking, but I just enjoy the DC a tiny bit more. Everyone else?
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Had to be one of the greatest trailers ever. definitely see the inspiration for this one.
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If you want to see your space jockey, he's the giant bald guy standing to the right of the empty chair/telescope. He rather human looking , so it seems that the chair dweller wears a suit. The head on the scanning table is his helmet. Seems humans are created by these humanoid aliens in their own image. Thank you folks, a mystery solved. Sorry if I just spoilt the surprise. But then again, I may be wrong.
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It's certainly not perfection incarnate. I do really like the coccoon scene though - I found it pretty easy to suspend my disbelief and accept that Ripley stumbled upon this nest of sorts, especially seeing as she has like 8 minutes or something when she gets in there. The scene goes for a total of like 90 seconds, overall she doesn't waste too much time on it. Plus its just a really cool set/physical effects combo. That place is just eerie as hell. The shots of the alien earlier on with Brett aren't good though, I didn't think they were necessary. On the flipside though I love that distress signal. Man that is dope.
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I've been burned to many times before. Fuck them.
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now that Prometheus seems that it is resurrecting this dead franchise?
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Dec. 23, 2011, 7:46 a.m. CST
this trailer works for me just fine. a sweaty Charlize Theron doing push ups sure help!
by AsimovLives
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with Newt as an exo-biologist fighting alongside with Biehn as a Colonel,the Alien infestation on Earth.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST
Re: The Derelict/Space Jockey/PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES
by ArmageddonProductions
maninthemembersonlyjacket and zombot: it actually took me years to figure out that that's what the derelict's design was based on (in the original ALIEN script, it wasn't even a ship, it was a "temple", so I guess that's what inspired Scott to base it on that painting), but once you figure that part out, everything else about it makes a weird sort of sense (the "birth" theme, the vagina-shaped entrance, the bone-shaped insides, the "eggs" in its "belly"). Again, based on the trailer, Scott might not be following that design, which is a shame.</p><p> Obviously, too, they're going with the suit idea for the Space Jockey, which is also a shame, because I grew up thinking it was just a dead, fossilized alien that got attacked by a face hugger (whether or not it was a suit, they discover that chest-burster hole on it). I always thought it was great that they never explained what the Space Jockey was, though I was always puzzled by the Nostromo crew's reaction to it: they make a few clinical remarks about it rather than go "Holy shit! It's a giant fucking dead alien sitting in what looks like a gunnery chair for a bad-ass space gun! Never mind about the rest of the ship or those eggs, we're screwed!"</p><p> And good call on whoever compared this to Bava's PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES! Scott lifted a lot from PLANET in the first ALIEN; this time around, it looks like he just out and out remade it! In fact, if those new spacesuits were black leather instead of blue, I think Bava's estate would have grounds for a huge lawsuit.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST
The thing sticking out of the top of the Space Jockey chair
by Annihilator
The thing sticking out of the top of the Space Jockey chair, above the first 'O' in Prometheus - I think that's the mask that closes around the Space Jockey's face. He's growing the suit like an exoskeleton, and will sit in the chair and the mask will close around his head.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST
@stargrove Yup, O'Bannon was essential to what made Alien
by Brian Hopper
great. And Goldsmith of course.
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I was thinking about this - what if the Company are not totally evil after all? What if they discover a threat/menace to the human race in Prometheus that makes them realize that there are malevolent alien Xenomorphs out there, and they need to try to either a) contain or b) learn as much as possible about them to find a weakness? That what they do in the first two movies is not out of selfish greed but rather they are desperately trying to figure out how to stop them? Actually, one hole I can poke in this is why did they send civilians to check out the derelict on LV-426 when they realized what it was instead of immediately sending marines? Perhaps someone made the cold hard decision to risk a colony to test how long it would take for them to get infested to determine how great the threat was? If they had no contact for about 100 years or so, they might not be sure how serious the situation is. I realize this would be altering the basic premise of people vs. bad Corporate villains but I'm wondering if they are going down this track. Does this seem plausible to anyone?
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That poster of the giant human head really underwhelmed me, but the trailer has completely washed that away. This looks awesome, and I am officiall stoked!
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Tired. Warn out. Boring. Done to death (literally and figuratively). It would be AWESOME if it had not a fucking thing to do with Alien. But, now we are going to be subjected to people in space suits being chased though the bowels of spaceships and/or ancient caverns or some shit by acid dripping aliens. Fuck that unoriginal, hackneyed shit.
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Fuck your cartoon filled with giant smurfs, Cameron, PROMETHEUS RISES!
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Dec. 23, 2011, 9:11 a.m. CST
@mentaldominance I'm largely with you on the theatrical vs.
by Brian Hopper
director's cut. However, I don't hate on it because it contains some interesting material. But I love the pacing in the theatrical version. You nail it re Brett taking the 'shower'... the whole slow-burn feel of that scene is just perfect. In the theater in '79, I can remember clearly how tense and creepy that scene was and the way it just slowly builds. Hardly anyone directs scenes like that anymore... they would probably feel the audience wouldn't have the patience for it. And I agree re the cut to the planet after Parker says 'We're going in.' Perfect. I've always felt one of the (many) great things about Alien is its savvy use of the tension between a sort of slow-moving eerieness and unexpected, brutally shocking moments. To use two examples of many, Alien has both the most horrifying moment ever in a film IMHO (the chestburster) AND one of the most eerie, creepy scenes with echoes of existential dread in any film (the space jockey sequence)... AND what makes it all so elegant is that both scenes are woven together by the same set of background facts (an alien was implanted). Few films operate at Alien's level.
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I don't think that Aliens was a problem - I think it was a good sequel. I didn't bother to watch Alien 3 since it basically undoes any good that comes out of Aliens. Alien 4 is just problematic on multiple levels. However, if Ridley is going to ignore Aliens, even in the movie Alien the Company is basically shown to be an evil entity who could care less what happened to the crew of the Nostromo if they can get info on alien stuff. What I'm wondering is if they will now retcon this to make it look like the Company is not totally evil but is aware of an Alien menace and are doing the best they can to find out as much as possible before the Aliens show up on their front porch.
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The Space Jockey was fossilized. It better have already been dead by hundreds of thousands of years ago when this movie begins.
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now it's not. I miss the old days when movies just came the fuck out and you saw them cold having no fucking idea what they were about
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That's my guess, anyway. I was doing frame-by-frame of the trailer and when I saw the figure on the right side under the "s", I almost fell out of my chair! Creepy as fuck! Here's a pic: http://pic.twitter.com/WhNOYMTt
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Dec. 23, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST
And who in Prometheus sends out the warning transmission that they receive in ALIEN?
by Zardoz
duh-dun-dunnnnnn!
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Can't freakin' wait. Dark Knight? Just about put me to sleep.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST
@mentaldominance And I love the DC of Kingdom of Heaven for
by Brian Hopper
the reason you describe. The modern ADD style of editing that treats EVERY film like a video game will be the death of us all.
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- the background walls in the SJ room in Alien is totally different from the background walls in the Prometheus trailers (both the scene of the SJ chair with Dr Manhattan and the scene of the star map stuff) meaning that it isnt the same place as the derelict in Alien. Scott is no dummy to set prep and would not make a big error like that by accident; - Scott doesnt give away money shots in trailers (see original Alien trailer, do you see the Alien?); there is a reason why he has tried to keep the lid on for this film; Im sure there is going to be alot more interesting stuff in the movie; - the shot of the vehicles going out the door they are headed to the derelict style ship in the background; - as someone pointed out elsewhere, the scene of the ship crashing if you look carefully it is facing downwards, not upwards where it was standing there, so it didnt just tip over, it somehow inverted. Cant wait for this one.
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Could it be after Alien? And they go looking for another ship after the discoveries of Alien?
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Dec. 23, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST
First "Dark Knight Rises," then "the Hobbit," and now this?
by MrEkoLetMeLive
I don't care if the world DOES end on 12/21/12 because by then I'll have seen all three movies. That BAAAAAAAMMMMM sound must have an amazing agent. Who reps him? CAA? UTA?
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The BAAAAAMMMMM sound is repped by the same guy who used to represent the exotic wailing bitch. Exotic wailing bitch got a LOT of work in the Noughties but things have kinda dried up for her recently. BAAAAMMMMM is still going great guns - expect to see much more.
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I believe Sir Ridley has always stated that the space jockey is a humanoid in a Biomechanical suit? which seems to be the case here. Unfortunately, the humanoid looks like shit.
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Bigger, largely practical and involved in fighty fighty action scenes. Improvised weapons. Not the exact same Alien as the original, but aliens alright.
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thewalkingdude?! Where in the trailer do you actually see the Space Jockey? Can you give me mins and secs. Cheers!
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If you watch the trailer, at the moment where the large seat rises from the floor, you'll see a gigantic humanoid figure approaching it. You can't miss it - he's the guy that stepped out of Tron Legacy into what he believes will be a better movie... That may not even be the so-called Jockey but the general consensus is that he is.
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35mm looks like. From the trailer, it looks to have the same diffused tone and texture of Alien. Suppose that can be done in post but it doesn't look digital to me. Every major film shot on FILM should be cherished these days.
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In the bit with the chair coming up. On the right. Grey bald dude.
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Black blood.
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thewalkingdude, I just freeze framed the split second with the chair rising and I do see a grey bald dude on the right. Are you saying he's the space jockey? Bit hard to make a judgement based on that millisecond moment. Could just as easily be a crewman? (I also freeze framed the push up girl - charlize theron? - and sadly she's not naked! Got a wrap around her chest)
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I'm not sure if 'engineers' = 'space jockeys' but if they are the same (which I suspect is the case) then he's your guy.
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Scratch that, just remembered. They're not the same. They're different types of being I THINK
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he shot this on the Red Epic
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he shot the movie on the Red Epic
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though I do agree that Prometheus won't be the top grosser of the year, I don't think it will land near the bottom of the top ten. I mean, even if it's just okay the the hype and curiosity alone will be enough to propel it into the top five. It will do VERY well. Also, I don't think John Carter will be a massive bomb unless it utterly sucks complete ass ala Green Lantern or Jonah Hex. JC has already scored very high at a rough-cut test screening and word on Prometheus is that it's spectacular. "Movie of the decade" might be pushing it though. In short, I expect both movies to do good business if they're good, great business if they're great. Pretty simple actually. Anyway, as someone upstairs pointed out, it's kinda silly to muse over box-office. I for one will be enjoying all the genre movies this coming year. Hey btw is that really you in that youtube video????
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I can't stand that exotic wailing bitch
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST
Screencap of the Jockey's seat and the grey, bald dude...
by BurnHollywood
http://tinyurl.com/85ryuje Set of 50 fairly decent screencaps covering the entire trailer: http://tinyurl.com/6o7vpvc You're welcome.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST
cobra--kai, I think that bald dude by the space jockey chair is definitely the official space jockey
by lv_426
Remember, even before the leaked synopsis from about a month ago (that crazy one with time travel elements and other nonesense), there was leaked stuff from Fox about it being about the engineering of life and ancient gods and stuff. Even Ridley said similar things and mentioned Chariots of the Gods as an inspiration for this film. Then the fact that the movie is called Prometheus implies a lot if we take into account the myth of Prometheus. Or to quote zombot from earlier in the TB: "zoomed in on that pic- the space jockey is a humanoid and big. and wearing a suit. but not the helmet yet, which probably grows over his face. he is vaguely humanoid. his brow and nose ridge are overdefined, like the big face. he is our 'god' but he's just an alien. we're made in his image. we totally stole his secrets and killed him milllenia ago....and our curse is that we die but keep giving birth and overmultiplying. we're corrupt. we are somehow responsible for it...and probably our own horrid nature corrupts/infects the 'bioformer' and is personified by the alien" I think zombot has the closest notion/guess/theory as to what we might actually end up with in Prometheus. Of course, we all only have a scarce amount of info to go on... so maybe none of the speculations are correct? Still though, this seems the most likely to me.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST
...her last paycheck was from Battlestar Galactica methinks.
by WONKABAR
Cut-to-black and Fake-out-ending also seem to be getting lots of work these days.
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i think it's probably going to play into the loop of us creating androids in our image, perfecting the things in us that are weak... strength, intelligence or lifespan in doing so....and then androids becoming something more powerful than us, and in the future(or past, if that leak is correct) creating us in their image...in doing so perfecting something they lack- either reproduction, or 'soul' or something. if either this or my other theory is right, there is still something missing from the equation...the catalyst that causes the biomechanical change in androids. whether that thing is alien or biomechanoid in nature is what we are all trying to figure out. as much as it fits with what we are seeing, i don't want it to be such a closed loop of human and android creation, i'd prefer if there is still something alien and unknown tied into it all. some outside thing even outside of the jockeys.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST
still wonder why those 'cryo-beds' in the pilot chamber have busted chests.
by zom-bot.com
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Maybe film IS dead.
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It looks great out of context of the Alien series. Except for maybe the few shots of the human characters walking around inside the alien ruins or ship, it doesn't look like A L l E N to me. It does seem a bit too clean and slick. The space suits feel too advanced and skin tight (although Charlize's ass does indeed look amazing in that shot where she is climbing into the green-padded stasis module), almost with a Star Trek feel to them more than the bulky and functionally rugged look of the suits in ALIEN. Or maybe a more appropriate description would be a mix of the look of Alien's suits with something one might see in Star Trek, or maybe Mass Effect. Also, it isn't just the sets and costumes so much, but the images are just too crisp to fit into the continuity of ALIEN and ALIENS. Ridley's ALIEN felt like a dark fever dream that pulled you down into the depths of a subconscious abyss. The lighting and overall grime and just moisture and texture and overall atmosphere (though still detail rich images) of the original film is not present in this Prometheus trailer. It looks too crisp, like when comparing HD video to 35mm film. Film, while still detail rich, has an indistinguishable texture and feel that digital cinematography doesn't replicate, especially in cases like this (Alien was made 32 years ago, or Star Wars where the prequels released 22 years after the first of the OT). This difference is apparent in this trailer. Also, the lighting seems too bright. Most of the shots looked too lit compared to ALIEN. Perhaps because of it being PG-13? Now, maybe Sir Ridley is trying to move away from the horror and darkness of ALIEN a bit here, but why make a prequel to it then? If things don't line up visually, then why do it? It will just taint the original. Why not make an original space themed hard sci-fi film? And that is not even considering the fact that this film will have tons of CGI and digital effects, further removing it from the look and feel of ALIEN, and ALIENS as well. Yes, I know, different eras... back then it was 35mm film and models/miniatures/men-in-suit monsters, and now it is digital cinematography/RED cameras, CGI, digital matte paintings, etc. Thing is, that doesn't mean that when one sits down to watch Prometheus, then Alien and after that Aliens, that a huge disconnect won't occur in the viewer's mind in terms of the visuals and overall suspension of disbelief being shattered by these visual inconsistencies. I said it in the last Prometheus talkback, and I'll say it again... Ridley Scott got us all excited that he was returning to science fiction cinema with Brave New World and The Forever War, then suddenly it was the Alien Prequel, which morphed into Prometheus, and now Blade Runner II. It really does worry me that he is just rehashing his past glories. Then there is the possible story of ancient astronauts and alien gods creating humanity. I think this is probable as a plot element, as Ridley said they are going to show the beginning of time and then in the trailer there is some giant saucer ship over an Earth-like world with a waterfall and foliage. I really don't like the notion of the aliens and space jockey being just humans or ancient human creations (assuming if in the film ancient alien gods equal humans, and we were created in their image). Everything seen in this trailer seems to line up with these ideas. This concept has been done to death in science fiction. It feels kinda like old hat now. And speaking of the old space jockey, that creepy Lovecraftian enigma that he/she is... Compare the jockey chair and chamber that the jockey sits in between the two films. The one in Prometheus is obviously a digitally animated one. IMO, it doesn't look that great. Compare that to the work of art that was created for ALIEN in the full set and jockey statue created and sculpted by HR Giger. I am sorry, but the CGI one that is shown in the Prometheus trailer is a huge step down. And that planet doesn't look like Acheron/LV-426 either. Sure it looks similar, but not at all like how it looks in ALIEN and ALIENS. So hopefully it is actually a different planet. Although, why would they show the space jockey ship crashing somewhere else? I suppose it could be a different ship and jockey than the one we saw in ALIEN, but I doubt it. On a positive note, besides the space jockey elements, I like the way a lot of the other elements look in this. The suits, the ship, the sets inside the human ship, the planet they are on, etc. look really cool (although the ship in the first shot looked a bit much like Serenity from Firefly). They just don't look A L l E N enough to me. If this were a completely original science fiction film from Sir Ridley Scott, then yeah, I'd be stoked. But now, it is such a mixed bag because it is tying in with the ALIEN series. I know I'll catch a shitload of flak from this, but seeing this trailer, I'd say James Cameron's AL(l)ENS looks closer in tone and feel to the original A L l E N than PROMETHEUS does. Then again, what has Ridley Scott done in the past 20 years that looks like his amazing run of films at the beginning of his feature directing career (The Duelists, Alien, Blade Runner, and Legend)? And of course, none of Cameron's new stuff looks like The Terminator or Aliens now either. I am not saying I dislike the look of current era Ridley Scott films, just that they don't have the same look and atmosphere that his first films had. Damn do I miss that late 1970's to mid 1980's look. Dark and a bit grainy, with lots of smoke all adding up to films having a specific atmospheric haze if you will. The Terminator, The Hunger, Alien, Blade Runner, Legend, Aliens, The Thing, Escape From New York, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, ET, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Star Wars Trilogy. They just don't make stuff nowadays that look remotely like those classics. There is no way I won't see this though. Even though I have massive worries about this, I can't not see a Ridley Scott sci-fi film that has ties to A L l E N. I have to at the very least, give Sir Ridley a shot at winning me over despite my skepticism. I suppose the safest thing to do is go into Prometheus for the cool but not completely faithful to ALIEN visuals, and if the story happens to be good and actually doesn't kill the mystery of the space jockey and the derelict with some lame explanation, then count that as a huge bonus. If not, then at least I can still see some cool new school Ridley Scott sci-fi visuals and gawk at Charlize's amazing ass in a skin-tight fitting space suit. So not a total loss at all.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST
Original GIGER sculpted Space Jockey from A L l E N > CGI Space Jockey from PROMETHEUS
by lv_426
It had to be said. There is no way they will recapture the Giger mojo that is the amazing full size jockey sculpture and set from the original.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST
@graphix67 The Derelict can still be ancient...and still relate to events just 30yrs earlier because...
by marineboy
The original encounter between the humans and Jockey race may be 30 years apart, but it's possible the jockey ends the Prometheus story by trying to time-travel to destroy earth during its inception. Armed with a ship load of xeno eggs, the jockey (probably by some earlier intervention by Rapace) instead crash lands back in LV-426 a million years back, and the attempted genocide of their creation is thwarted. Possible? I love speculating.
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I'm starting to wonder if Ridley Scott was partly inspired by the French 1973 animated film "Fantastic Planet." When I see that large blue alien on screen, I can't help but think of the giant blue aliens in the film: the "Draags." Many of the blue aliens in Fantastic Planet have humans that are domesticated as pets. Humans that live in the wilds and roam free are periodically exterminated by the Draags. The giant aliens are technologically advanced and spiritual, and yet, we see them do horrible things to the humans, like tease, torture, and kill them. The Draags' education is supplied by the use of a headset that transmits knowledge directly into the brain of the user. It is discovered in the film that humans are able to tap into this power, and steal the Draags' knowledge. The Draags' updated technologies become ever more aggressive, and when an automated scout detects the persistent human settlement, it summons an array of lethal devices to kill them. As the attacks become more diverse and effective, the humans launch their manned rockets toward the Fantastic Planet, where they discover headless humanoid statues. As Draag meditation bubbles descend to alight atop the statues, the statues begin to dance. It is revealed via voiceover that this is the secret of the Fantastic Planet. Draag meditation animates the statues and allows the Draag to reproduce. When the feet of the dancing statues threaten the rockets, the humans use energy weapons to shatter the statues, effectively killing thousands of meditative Draag. Pandemonium reigns in the Council chamber, and it seems that the two races will destroy each other if they cannot find a way to live together. Apparently they find a way to co-exist, for in one of the last scenes, a human steps down off an outstretched Draag hand, removes his hat and assumes a posture of confidence and self-assertion. A voiceover recounts the Draag's construction of a new satellite where humans can live, "which they call Terr (a play on Earth), after their ancestral planet."
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no Morbius spacesuits with funky details for you.. you get TRON 2 leftovers... no Syd Mead or Ron Cobb spaceships for you..you get the Firefly with "4s better than 2 engines" and so far, no freaky Giger "what the fck was that- never saw that before?!" Alien Design for you...but some --- left over Dune Giger humanoid face sculptures from the 80s... lets hope Mead is at least allowed to doodle for Blade Runner 2 the ip ridley gets to own....;) maybe he'll get payed off like Barlowe must have been;) its ok..that's the new world of transmedia..youre not on Pandora. we've lost all ability to write screenplays in the last 30 years...i guess its time to complete the trilogy and remove all originality from the visuals of films as well. maybe ill be surprised by the actual films soundtracks and music... er.... anyway kids..Happy Holidaze! Grab those Tron2 figures on deep discount off those Toys are Target's shelves!
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Choppah, a hog with a log?! Lv_426, you seem to be expecting a lot if you expect an fx heavy film made in 2011 to match up exactly with the visuals of onr made in the Seventies. I understand what you're saying but I don't think we're in danger of getting a photoshop CG style film with PROMETHEUS. Attention to detail and artistry in set design, costuming and cinematography has always been Ridley Scott's forte and I am certain this new film will impress on those grounds.
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you see the ship on the same twisting approach pattern as the Nostromo in ALIEN
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Dec. 23, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST
Wesley, there is a power within each of us that most people haven't begun to realize.
by Brian Hopper
I think this is the tall humanoid to the right of the chair: http://bit.ly/vE795C
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I think I'd rather attempt to infiltrate Gabourey Sidibe's arse hole than watch AvP or AvP:R again. It's funny, no one ever actually types out the full title to those two shit fests. As if it is not worth the effort to actually type out the full title Aliens vs Predator. It is too much work for such shitty films.
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the person on the left is shouting something...you see their tongue for a frame or two...I know it's hard to tell but it looks like they're screaming "Holloway"
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Dec. 23, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST
And since choppah graced us with a Black Christmas Edition of Fudgepack Friday
by lv_426
I am going to throw out an early Does She Swallow Sunday since it might be a tad bit unclassy to do so on Christmas Day. I think we shall go with a White Christmas Edition of Does She Swallow Sunday... Since we've been graced with The Dark Knight Rises trailer this week, how about the pasty skinned Anne Hathaway? Does Selina Kyle swallow Bruce Wayne's bat juice, or does she need to dress up as Catwoman for Batman to rise? As for Gabourey Sidibe choppah, I'd say she allows access to her rear end, but as you stated, you gotta be quite long and strong to penetrate that abyss.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
cptblood, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. i have no problem with time dilation or cryo-based "time" travel. those effects make sense and have been confirmed experimentally.
by dahveed1972
but i totally get your point.
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So...much...win... http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull/
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Dec. 23, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST
I am surprised there isn't more speculating on what the heck that giant saucer shaped ship is
by lv_426
The one in the upper right side of the screen above the waterfall at 00:39. The waterfall and saucer ship shot seems to be from the beginning of time section that Ridley said they were shooting in Iceland. http://collider.com/prometheus-iceland-filming/101633/ Maybe a space jockey ship from eons ago, during terraforming or seeding of life of a world, perhaps Earth?
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Dec. 23, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST
Another thought, Fassbender pulling something strange out of a cannister
by lv_426
Some sort of translucent green thing, maybe a lifeform? To me, it kinda looks like an early form, or is something that is related to the alien eggs. It has four lips or mandible like elements at the top. And inside the translucent skin, there appears to be a spine-like structure. A proto-facehugger perhaps? Remember in ALIEN, when Kane is examining the egg, his light seems to light it up from the outside. So I wonder if they are related, since they both have translucent skin of some sort? Also, Fassbender's character seems to approach one of the urn things in the trailer when they are exploring inside the big giant head temple chamber. I wonder if he got that weird lifeform that he is looking at in his lab, if he got it from one of those urns?
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Watched this trailer about 6 times already. Chills everytime
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Dec. 23, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST
Red Letter Media's mr Plinkett released his review for the Crystal Skull movie
by KilliK
enjoy it: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull/
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Spielberg's and Lucas' asses.And he points out the same flaws in the movie,which we have already talked aout in the old talkbacks. I hope Harry puts the review as news in the site so we can discuss about it.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST
The sticky molten seed ran in rivulets from the corners of her cavernous orifice...
by conspiracy
Anne swallowed hard, taking the last thick swallow of the spunk pooled upon her velvet tongue. She looked up at him lustily, her over large eye's glistened, tears streamed from their corners; evidence of the exertion required to take his manhood so deep into the confines of her long neck. Anne took a long gasping breath, filling her ample chest with sweet life after willingly chocking off the supply of air in her struggle with his cock; then slowly, lustily licking the remnants of his lust and her thick deep saliva from her lips as she mindlessly rubbed the spillage into the soft natural flesh of her heaving chest. "Oh..God!", she hissed as her body writhed in pleasure, "I'm still sooo hungry...and we have at least 30 minutes before we're needed back on set". She still felt his thick jizz coating the inside of her mouth, the salty taste stimulating her madly, her mind controlled by her lusty hungry twat. "Come on baby....give it to me." She hissed. The actor looked down at the sweating, pleading actress on her knees at his feet, watching her pull her large erect nipples as she worked the last drops of cum into them. "No time Love...gotta get back on set. And please, no need to be formal...just call me Christian" http://theblemish.com/images/2007/08/anne-hathaway-bikini.jpg
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Dec. 23, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST
Thats "Choking"...and a "Yes she does swallow" for thos following along...
by conspiracy
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As for Promethus, WOW! Ridley seems to be having fun again. Like Gladiator fun. Hope the old man gets his dues before he croaks. As for the SW prequels, shut it up already, no mystery was stolen. It's called explaining shit! if you don't like explanations, fuck off. Midichlorians make total sense if you know anything about science and spirituality, they go hand in hand no matter where you go so cram that ignorant dumb ass noise.
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I could get lost for a month just exploring every pore on her succulent, cock enveloping, dangling natural udderific baby feeders with my mouth. Anne isn't just a swallower in retrospect...she is a lapper., Ya know the kinda chick who doesn't just close her eyes and think about chocolate pudding while it shoots down her gullet but rather watches in wonder as it erupts from your member all over her face and body while she jacks out every drop...then laps it up from every surface it touches. Look at her eyes...they scream "dirty".
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i dont want to know who created the aliens and wtf the Jockey is. The mystery,the unanswered questions,the unknown are what make the Alien movie a masterpiece and the basic reason that i love it so much. i dont give a fuck what really was the derelict,its bio-mechanical pilot,how the eggs ended there and what happened before the crashing of the ship.i dont give a fuck if the company already knew all about this and what were their interest on it. I dont give a fuck who created the universe.i dont give a fuck who created earth and the human species.I dont care what are the metalic urns and what is that green stuff inside them.I dont care what it the giant head is.i dont want to know what is that shadow on the left,the sharp object on the right and that bald dude who is waking towards the Jokey's chair.i dont care for anything. I would only care if Scott didnt want to tie-in this movie with the Alien movies as a non-direct spinoff prequel.Because it seems to be a very interesting movie,i liked the trailer a lot but i dont want to shove in my head all the answers concerning the Alien movie.i dont.
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that's what i am talking about.just dont lose your wonderful,hard written stories again. :P
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LOOOOOL ;)
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Fuck mystery! Leave that shit to Angela Lansbury and the Scooby gang. If Ridley wants to tell me a cool, sci-fi story with the Space jockeys, bring it on! I will watch, I'm interested.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
And if one movie can influence how you feel about another....
by ZodNotGod
YOU are the dumbest stump alive.
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Some forces in nature can not be resisted, some can't even be fully explained...such is the nature of Gabourey Sidibe and anal sex. It is common knowledge amongst anal professionals that ALL heavy Hunnies love the Jello Mold filled, it is their 1st line of defense against the lonely Friday night. Fat Girl =Fudge Packing..it's the rule. But Gabourey is a special case...having a modicum of fame about her as allowed her to limit the access to the Chocolate Factory...and you're gonna have to be a mighty fine player, and a master of anal psychology, to dip your thumb back into her Plum Pot. Make no mistake...it is still possible, even probable that you will get to penetrate past her more than ample cheeks and swim in the deadly vortex and most likely succumb to the the inescapable pull of her deadly dark vortex of lust. You it is gonna take at least a few "you're beautiful"'s and probably a trip or two to the local Waffle House to get it...which is just as well..Buttery Sugary food is the friend of all Anal Masters.
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Awesome
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writing while the wife is shopping is fucking hard, leads to lots of errors......people wonder why I'm smirking, they probably think I'm looking at porn...lmao
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We really don't care, as long as the prose remains at a high-standard. Might I suggest Annette Schwartz as an appetizer?
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It's great to see him get high-profile movie work. He was amazing in The Wire.
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Ok so my friend who does previs on this told me that it's a direct prequel to alien, aliens and alien vs predator. He says the space jockeys are delivering their cargo to the predator homeworld to be used in the predator hunting rituals when it breaks loose and causes most of the movie. You will definately see predators he says. At the end it sets up the original alien and the last scene of the movie is the space jockey(who is actually one of the prometheus crew in a spacesuit) sending the warning message. You'll see more of Ms Yutani as well. She's an evil bitch he says.
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I'll take your lack of commentary on it when it finally comes out as your steadfast affirmation of your undying opinion...
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The story is too confined and limited by pidgeon-holling the plot onto the opening setting of the Alien film. I thought Ridley Scott was talking about an epic idea and wanted to make 2 films, or have a massive budget. So far this looks like a small scale sci fi story like Pitch Black or Event Horizon. It's an Alien prequel with no aliens. Really? How can you get excited about this? It is easily one of the top trailers for next years films, however. You guys wanna see the worst trailer? http://youtu.be/X58RPS665V0 Are they for real? I can't figure out if that's a parody, a joke or what?
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I'm not too sure about creationists. I know pussy juice was created by those little RNA machines that crawl up and down our DNA strands evolving us as they mutate us. I know that we get 2 of the letters in our RNA from warm pond water and starlight. I know that pussy juice can be warm. Therefore PussyJuice should be bottled and used as an elixir of sorts. If it was then I bet Winona Ryder's Pussy Juice would be a top seller to 40 year old nerds wishing to re-capture their glory days through the use of a new dietary supplement. What would the top brand be? KunisJuice?
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Maybe the alien is the progenitor of the shape of mammal dicks. Would make so much sense.
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Dec. 23, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST
MAJOR ***SPOILER*** please do not read if you don't want to spoil the film's biggest secret...I read the script to Prometheus....
by Marlboroliteman
and the Space Jockey in the chair of the original Alien is actually a ferocious being wearing a bio suit. In Prometheus the crew cuts open the bio suit and find a drunken, verbally abusing Brian Cox.
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Midichlorian = organism that communicates with the force Force = mystical energy you all know and love The Force isn't "explained" by the existence of midichlorians. What the Force is and its nature are STILL unexplained. The only thing that was explained is why some people are "stronger in the force" than others. That's all. Nothing more.
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But if what you say is true, then fuck that shit. I love the first Predator, I THOUGHT Aliens vs. Predators could be made into reasonably good movies (but they obviously couldn't make justice to the idea)... but if they are going to not only tie this to Alien, but also those god-awful turds that are the AvP movies, then forget it. Still, I think either you are trolling or your previs friend is trolling you :)
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Ash Bishop Call David
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I could easily convince you why my taste in film is the correct one...I could also convince asimovlives to respect J.J. Abrams with 99% probability...no I'm not kidding I did not make up that statistic...in the meantime you should watch dumb Plinkett's reveiw of KOTCS...WHOSE BEEN FUCKING WITH MY MEDICINE!!!!???
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It's overloaded. Is this Crystal Skullfuck review going to be better than the movie itself?
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It also showed how the Jedis became so caviler and reckless. Unlike Yoda who taught Luke to revere it, the Jedis use it as tool, everyday at the office sort of thing. Didn't remove any mystery whatsoever. It MC were there so we could see how some could use the force others couldn't and how strong potentials were spotted....DUH! Some of you people just make shit up so you can bitch.
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If Spielberg directs another Indy movie I hope he watched that review first.
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Nope, but pretty close.
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suck dick much?
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wouldn't it be cool if there was no baddie, no villain in PROMETHEUS? As in, the situation the characters find themselves in IS the villain?
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The review's only flaw is that it doesn't esvicerate the movie more, as it deserves.
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how the space jockeys will be seen engineering the aliens and you will see failed attempts in a menagerie of sorts similar to the one in resurrection only filled with vicious looking monsters. Ms Yutani is also the voice of the mother computer. This is a fox movie and will pay heed to all established canon apparently.
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where the 2nd half is set after the events of alien. Not sure if that's still the case but it would play like bookends that encapsulate the entire alien saga. The 2nd would have all-out earth war using the aliens as bio-weapons.
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"Event Horizon" is the exception to the rule.
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when we see the lady fall to her knees with 3 people in the lab, one of them is in a wheelchair...could this be an aged Welyand-Bishop who's been in stasis until such time until the Prometheus voyage was commissioned...could be Lance H in heavy make up??? I could be COMPLETELY wron though....
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Dec. 24, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST
ultratron is a sad little teenage AVP apologist. Scott will never have anything to do with that crap or the Predator series. Fuck back off to your fanfic site, kid.
by reflecto
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Dec. 24, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST
What if the humans are being transformed into Xenomorphs?
by AlienFanatic
That's my hypothesis atm. The trailer is, obviously, skipping back and forward in the timeline, however some of the things I saw that made me come to this conclusion: 1. The Space Jockey in Alien has a xenomorph hole in him. If one or more humans is mutating into a SJ, where do the xenos come from? 2. The mutant jumping from the vehicle appears to have a head that's growing in longitude, not lattitude (longer, not wider). SJ heads are wide and somewhat oblong, while Xenos are long and tapered. 3. The creature observing the SJ's "cannon" doesn't look much like the mutant jumping from the vehicle. (To me, actually, he looks a lot like Fassbinder's character without hair.) My personal guess is that the humans encounter the shrine and the "urns" are some kind of cloning/sampling device. Once people interact with them, they are sprayed with an acidic mutagen that begins the transformation effect. This allows Ridley to play with a new skein of body horror while explaining how the Xenos came to be. The SJ's seem to arrive late in the film (the sequence appears to be a collision between the science vessel--which is destroyed--and the Derelict, which is knocked to the ground, topples, and wrecks.) My guess is that the SJ's either created the shrine or watch over it and are there to prevent the mutated humans from escaping. The SJ's are then stranded among the mutants, who kill them as the SJ's activate their warning beacon. Meanwhile, the urns having sampled human DNA begin transforming into eggs. Also, having male and female DNA would account for the drone and queen Xenos, hence the female crew members. Well, that's just my hypothesis for now.
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When Giger created the original Alien mask, he used a human skull as a base. Just food for thought.
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1) Violence. At some point in the film, they have to "go there." To do something horrible and ghastly that makes you turn away from the screen a little. Then, they can keep you jumping for the rest of the movie (A'la "Psycho.). Can't do that in PG-13. 2) Sex. The "Alien" universe has a strong sexual subtext. While there was nothing overtly sexual in either "Alien" or "Aliens" the design of the creatures, the conversations, and the subtext just seethed with it. Labias, oral rape imagery, on and on. The writers, actors, and director need to know they're playing in an "R" universe to not be worried about every word and image. It is a VERY rare PG-13 movie where you can't feel them "holding back" to keep their rating, and that simply doesn't cut it. "R", for sure.
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blame the stupid moviegoers who will go see a PG-13 more often than an R...the same dumbfucks who paid to see Transformers 2 and 3 (yes including all of you too). If the studio can make an extra $100 million on this by making it PG-13, then of course they are going to do it. And YOU are to blame, not them.
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http://tinyurl.com/74syl92 Click on them to see them. Click on them again to enlarge it. One is the derelict ship crashing. Circled in the pic is the rear of the ship. It's not a doughnut crashing and rolling around squashing people. Another is a the mutant (face)jumping on someone. Another is the life form being pulled out of a chamber. Notice what looks like claws on the tips of the fingers. He might not be pulling it up, it may have a hold of him. The other picture is the humanoid dude.
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Won't be downloading this one, will actually stand up and walk out of my parents basement. Drive to the crematorium and use my allowance for good!!!
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..an android created by the humans to fit and operate the chair. I´ll bet my nuts that I´m right!
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Dec. 24, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
being a AVP apologist is like being a cancer appologist... it's all kinds of wrong!
by AsimovLives
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And overall I think it is really great. I like how the audio evokes the original teaser for ALIEN and I also like how P-R-O-M-E-T-H-E-U-S appears in a similar fashion to Scott's other entry in the alien series. However, while I am not a hater by any means, I do have some concerns: One thing that concerns me is the "prettiness" of this cast. Michael Fassbender is artificial, so that makes sense as he was "designed." However, casting über babes Noomi Rapace AND Charlize Theron as scientists is a bit of a stretch (although perhaps they were designed too even if they are organic, living, breathing human beings). Also, what I loved about the casting in the original ALIEN was that everyone looked real and had lived-in faces. None of the men were particularly handsome and Veronica Cartwright nor Weaver would have been defined as traditionally beautiful IMO, even as their younger selves in the late 70s. I just hope that the cast are not distracting this time around. It also seems to me that we now can be pretty sure that the Space Jockeys are human-like, but far larger than homo sapiens. Perhaps they are similar in design to the Zentradi from Robotech. I say this because at 44 seconds into this trailer, when we see the SJs navigation chair (if that is what it is), there is a figure at screen right who appears human, but must be far larger because, unlike in ALIEN, where the nostormo crew appears very small relative to the SJ remains, this humanoid appears large enough to sit in the Chair and operate it. This concerns me partly due to my own impressions cobbled together from ALIEN where I was under the impression that the derelict on LV426 was extremely old and had been there for hundreds or perhaps even thousands of years - I think Dallas even observes that the SJs remains were fossilized. I am also a bit disappointed that the SJs may be humanoid because I liked how it was implied in ALIEN that both the xenomorphs and the SJs were truly from another part of the galaxy that was unknown, completely unfamiliar and somewhat frightening. I think the original film worked extremely well because it exploited the audience's fear of the unfamiliar. I am skeptical and hope the rumours about the SJs being linked to human evolution is false. I like how, unlike Star Trek, the ALIEN franchise frames Earth and humans as relatively small and insignificant on a cosmic scale and that the universe is mostly a very cold, very unforgiving, very hostile environment. Where as the xenomorphs were vaguely bipedal, they did look wholly alien. I think making the SJs as recognizably humanoid will weaken my impressions of the series. I hope I am wrong and the Scott has come up with something completely mind bending.
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Dec. 24, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST
weylandyutani, you forgot to mention a sweaty charlize theron doing push ups as one of the trailer's qualities.
by AsimovLives
an unexcusable oversight.
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LOL, while I would usually have no issues with Ms Theron being sweaty and partially naked, it does remind me of the Kim Flowers ass shot in ALIEN RESURRECTION... Even though I quite liked the shape of Flowers' backside, overall A4 was a film that I did not enjoy very much. I hope that I will not say the same about Prometheus.
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but it would have made no sense for "Transformers" to be an "R." For what? Bleeding robots? Any movie based on a toy would probably be cutting its throat to make it an "R"--that would be seriously bad marketing. Parents complained about PG-13. Lots of movies work great at PG-13. The original "Dirty Dozen" would be rated PG-13 today. Damned near a PG. Doesn't mean it doesn't kick ass!
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you make some interesting points... I wonder if the mutating human is turning into a xenomorph egg as you suggest. I now remember a cut scene from ALIEN where Brett was transforming into an egg when Ripley finds a cocooned Dallas. Perhaps Scott has abandoned the idea of the xenomorph queen that Cameron introduced in the sequel.
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Whilst I always held the belief that the derelict was thousands if not millions of years old, the idea that the SJ was fossilised never sat well with me, even as a kid. Stuff doesn't just turn to stone over millions of years, the fossilisation process requires specific conditions, namely pressure and the existence of mineral material surrounding the dead organism. Under the conditions presented in alien, the SJ wouldn't have fossilised, it would have simply crumbled to dust. Dallas's statement is wrong, either the space jockey was already made of stone ( quite possible, the aliens are silicone based ) Or it had undergone some sort of petrification under different atmospheric conditions billions of years in LV426's past. I think Dallas suggests it's fossilised because the body resembles silicone and the derelict is aesthetically reminiscent of a fossil. The fact that the eggs are still organic suggests that they were either far more recent additions than the Jockey or that the Jockey was found in a similar state to the one it died in.
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Very good point Cpt... and I think you are right in that the SJs condition in ALIEN is better described as "petrified." Although I suppose, that the SJ ship could have been buried for many millenia only to protrude to the surface due to erosion on LV426 if we are still using the idea that the ship crashed millions of years ago. Although, for the SJ to be truly fossilized, it would have been found embedded in rock I suppose. Regardless, our original assumption, and it looks like many share the same opinion on this thread, is that it was implied in ALIEN that the derelict was veeeery old. And it seems that this idea was changed in Prometheus (if that is the same SJ ship seen in ALIEN). As for the still fresh eggs on the ship, I suppose they could have been kept in some kind of stasis by that blue energy nest or perhaps some kind of extremely long hibernation or some yet unknown dormant state... what the heck was that blue energy field anyway, it never reappeared in any of the other films? Anyway, Cain did say that area where the eggs were located was very hot/humid. So some kind of life support was still active on the ship. If the ship was human-made then I'd say that, yeah the crash was probably recent. But this is alien technology and in the ALIEN-verse it seems that long duration space flight is common with humans and probably even more perfected by other, more advanced, life forms. That is my guess at least. It will be interesting to see what Ridley Scott et al have come up with.
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The life support thing makes sense, in fact I seem to remember something about the derelict activating when the crew gets there, maybe it was in the novelization In fact no, I remember now, the egg reacts when organic matter breaks the blue light seal, that's when the egg starts to "un-petrify" My guess is that there is no space jockey in the movie. The alien technology that built the derelict absorbs the DNA of whatever comes in contact with it and creates biomechanical forms based on that ( much like the way the alien takes on traits of the host ) the humanoid look of the "jockey" is only due to the techs access to our DNA. If fish had discovered it the guy would have gills and fins. Similarly the urns in the movie become eggs once they have interacted with organic material. My guess would be we don't learn anything about the physicality of the actual creators of the ship, we only witness the results of their technology and what it creates from our DNA. Unfortunately, that's kind of an interesting idea, and I learnt from the matrix sequels that the ideas us fanboys come up with tend to be far superior to what the film makers eventually give us. Still, I have faith in Ridley. I'm hopeing for an awesome movie.
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the skull is still visible in many of the figurines and in the costume without the dome: http://fuckyeahalien.tumblr.com/post/14162342698/giger-and-his-alien-you-can-see-the-human-skull I believe theres a behind the scenes pic of the day showing the alien squatting which shows this also. Interesting fact, to give it an organic feel they shot test reels filling the transparant outer caseing of the alien head with maggots so it moved.
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100% with you. Couldn't have said it better myself. Don't think we'll even see a space jockey, just the results of their Tech's interaction with our DNA.
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Dec. 24, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST
Ridley filmed an R-rated version too. He's already said he's submitting 2 cuts to Fox.
by starbuck2907
A simple wikipedia read on this movie would really help out a few of ya'll. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(film) A few quotes: "It covers a vast expanse of time, past, present and future. It doesn't take place on Earth in any real significant way. The way we're exploring the future is away from Earth and [asking] what are people like now? What have they gone through and what are they thinking of? Space exploration in the future is going to evolve into this idea that it's not just about going out there and finding planets to build colonies. It also has this inherent idea that the further we go out, the more we learn about ourselves. The characters in this movie are preoccupied by the idea: what are our origins?" --Damon Lindelof, concerning the scope of Prometheus Scott stated, "By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first [Alien], but none of the subsequent [films]." Nevertheless, he made it clear that he made no direct link between Prometheus and Alien. Scott furthered that the original Zeta II Reticuli planetary system would be part of the prequel story; and that the plot would also entail "technologically feasible" approaches and applications towards "near faster-than-light travel" which would play a key role. "Time dilation and the effects of essentially de-materializing and re-materializing" also factored in the drafts. Elaborating more, the director commented in an interview that "the film will be really tough, really nasty. It's the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?" He later added, "The cast find an establishment which is not what they expected it to be, it’s a civilization but what we find in it is very uncivilized behaviour."
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Dec. 24, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST
per my previous statement, maybe time travel is involved
by starbuck2907
after all, the quotes say the film will involve "time dialation effects of faster than light travel" and that it will involve the "past present and future" so, maybe humans did meet the space jockey, millions of years ago, only to have Ripley and crew find the wreckage much later in the timeline...?
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If he's not the jockey?
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Which means either it is going to be a masterpiece or a grande disappointment.there is nothing in between.
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Dec. 24, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST
Giant Bald guy = Mutated David the android or the mutated male co-protagonist.
by KilliK
the one who fucks Roopace. The pilot chair is a bio-mechanical exoskeleton which the bald guy uses to connect to and operate the derelict ship. Maybe his bosses send him back in time on Earth,to put the eggs there so that the new born humankind is exterminated and replaced by the superior lifeform the Aliens. But somehow a facehugger leaves an egg and infects him which results in the crashing of the spaceship since he cant control it anymore through the bio-mechanical pilot chair.
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Ridley Scott has stated that the room with the giant head is an ampule chamber containing the DNA strands of various organisms. In the trailer you see Michael Fassbender's character, the android David, rmoving something from what appears to be a container from the ampule chamber. He is also, supposedly, the progenitor of the human race. Therefore, there has to be some sort of time loop or time travel element to the film considering how the humans fit into this.
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Dec. 25, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST
The giant bald guy is the Space Jockey's hair stylist
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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There are humans running from the derelict ship crash. Unless that crash only happened 30 years prior to Nostromo, which is when this movie is suppose to take place.
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Just a quick followup: There is what looks like a Space Jockey skull (or helmet?) on a examination table. This occurs at 00:34 in the trailer. So it seems that the SJ are in he film (dead? or alive?) at some point. Someone in this thread mentions that there may be a time loop element to the plot. I suppose that is a way to explain how Weyland knows about the ship, but that it is still very old... allowing Scott to have his cake and eat it too. I'm with you though, I am betting Scott has come up with something fantastic. And I have to reiterate that this teaser does a great at peaking my interest.
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Dec. 25, 2011, 5:09 a.m. CST
Captain Blood? the french SF video game from the 90s? With Jean-Michel Jarre music at the begining taken from his album Zoologie?
by AsimovLives
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Sometimes, some of you guys can act like fukkin Niles and Frasier fukkin Crain on this site. Here we have Mr. Scott, doing a prequel, reboot, or whatever you wanna fukkin call it. We are talking about the originator of this series, which we know has gone to shit because of all the fukkin spin-offs to it. The teaser gives us bits and pieces and not one of you fukkin morons have been on set, or seen any film, yet you are already bitching... The ship is in a circle and not a U, the Space Jockey should be an elephant man, not a big man. Charlize should've ran to the left and not the right. Give me a fukkin break. You guys are fukkin pathetic. Let the gottdamn movie come out first, and then critique it all the hell you want. As for me, this will be titties and beer... We need this movie to be good after all the horrible shit that has been released after Aliens. I mean fukk please give it a little rest. Enjoy the show. IF it sucks donkey dick (see Dark Water, Dream Catcher, Blair Witch: And I swear if any of you fags say BW was scary, I will find you and kick your ass), then by all means I'm on here with you agreeing 100%.
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Thats a Bingo. Loved that game as a kid... didn't get anywhere with it but was obsessed with the music and flying around the trenches finding aliens. Oh and the three titted xenomorph, I was young, it was french, I have no shame.
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Dec. 25, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST
Time travel? Were still buying that fan synopsis? Fair Enough.... What's in those urns then?
by alexander
You guys ever done Salvia before?
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Analysis and picking apart a highly anticipated film like this is perfectly fine and this is a forum where people can share what they think and see... good or bad. If you don't like it there is no reason to even bother reading the threads dude. Personally I am quite excited about this film as someone who has been a HUGE fan of some films in the series but very disappointing by others and the spinoffs. And FYI, I have stood on the Prometheus set (actually a couple of them), however I did not work on the film. About one months worth of shooting was done at Pinewood Toronto. I was working on a news story about film production in Canada a the time. What I saw was a set dressed as the rocky planet we see in the trailer (LV426?). However, the entire background was green screen dotted with tracking markers to, I assume, extend the background off into infinity in post. I also saw what looked like a rig that was an interior to one of the vehicles seen in the trailer, or it might have been a cut away of a human spaceship consol. Anyway, all of the construction was complete, but the production and cast had not arrived so there was only set dressing going on at the time. And no, we were not allowed to shoot in there, the PR person for Pinewood let us look around a bit with the condition that no cameras be used in that area. Since we wanted to get other footage of their property, we happily obliged. Anyway, there is no need to make assumptions here. Take it elsewhere.
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i'm an old man. and i had a friend who played it. good times.
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that game was great. it was hard to follow the plot, it was had to find the elements that made you progress your quest, and the fucking arm only got worst just a few quarter hours into the game, making the selection of the system you wanted to visit nearly an impossibility. still, it had something of a open sandbo feel to it, and yeah, it was fun to visit planets just for the hel of it. and hopefully find some of those hot space babes! i always though that game could make for some weird wonderful crazy mindfuck art-house epic SF movie. i mean, you visit planets with a rocket powered flying fish who had to do top-gun type flying near mountain ridges to avoid being shot down by anti-aircraft missiles. the game was one of the strangest poupourri of ideas i ever seen in my life. i loved it!
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I hear what you are saying. I am a huge fan of the first 2. The 3rd one, I'm still on the fence, and the AVPs............. (crickets, tumbleweeds).... Those 2 movies finally made me not fear sci-fi horror, and horror movies in itself. I truly appreciate them. Also, I'm not complaining about the a generalization, its the frustration of the nit picking that drives me nuts. It's the itty bitty things that people are finding. Now, again if this turns out to be another suck fest like the AVPs were, I'm in here screaming to the high heavens. All I ask is let the movie come out and give it to us. And by the way, titties and beer for you being on the set. Would've killed to have been there.
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if Jar Jar Abrams came over to your house to offer a peace settlement, would you yell at him and tell him to get off your lawn?
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i would kick him in the chins. which shouldn't be too hard, since he's such a midget.
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again an americas fail to realise that the rest of the world are not like them.
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It was very cool for the time. Very varied. There were wierd choices too like, you travelled down to a planet in a fish thing but you could also randomly incinerate them in your ship just for fun. Theres also a link to Alien. The ship and the intro and the arm were clearly giger inspired. Another thing, I learnt that dammned language. I didn't need the translator any more I could actually understand it from the sounds alone. For an example, the shit this guys saying at 0:19, I can still understand that with my eyes closed.
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wasn't the fish it was the aliens, you could persuade them to come onto your ship and then just microwave them for fun!
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A group of space miners uncovers evidence of humankind's creators, then unwittingly releases a violent alien race from within a faraway planet.
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Coincidence? I think not. It is a pretty obvious allusion to the Alien eggs in Alien. And from this we conclude...? Hmmm, buggered if I know. looks like I will have to fork out some money next June and find out.
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