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When Will We Finally See That Damn PROMETHEUS Trailer?? Wanna See A Snippet Now?? UPDATE: Even More Snippets!

 

'Tis arriving THURSDAY on iTunes. So says this deliciously cruel teaser embed....

 

 

HD of the same HERE!

 

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UPDATE:

Nordling here.

Yeah, I'm crazy excited.  For a damn TRAILER.  And here's even more.

Nordling, out.

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  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    first

    by TheAwareness

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    I wonder what Fassbender is pulling out.

    by CodeName

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    can't wait

    by tattooedjackass

    really this movie is going to kick ass!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Can't wait! BTW: First!

    by VanGoghX

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    FACEHUGGERS!

    by Jaster Mareel

    FUCK YES!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Thank you Ridley for doing this.

    by Richard

    The man said it himself. "epic"

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Sex Wee

    by Grando

    That is all.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    If they're trying to seperate this film from the first ALIEN...

    by Jaster Mareel

    They're really fucking up because that essentially was a trailer for the first ALIEN!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Is that "Bioformer" i see?

    by TheAwareness

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    did he face-hugger enter the helmet?

    by nolan bautista

    it could have been acid blood ..nonetheless..OUCH!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    So it's a teaser...for a teaser?

    by Sardonic

    Hollywood is becoming a parody of itself.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    DKR Trailer, Prometheus Trailer, and new Plinkett review all before Christmas

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    this truly is the most wonderful time of the year

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    oh add Hobbit trailer to that list as well

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    HOLY FUCK BALLS!!!!

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Looks F-ing Awesome!

    by Tug

    Every frame brought me back to the the original Alien with a bit of Blade Runner moodiness thrown in for good measure. Ridley Scott has been away from the genre for too long, he's a master at sci-fi and and it looks like he hasn't lost his touch.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    This could be the film of 2012

    by hallmitchell

    And it's got some competition.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Acid for blood!

    by ewokstew

    Yeah, boooyyyyy!

  • Genre fans have been starved of proper sci-fi since...Bladerunner?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    And might I add, Merry Christmas AICN talkbackers

    by ewokstew

    This will be the best Christmas gift ever.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    sardonic, you said it:

    by vee dagama

    a trailer to announce a teaser...what's next? a viral campaign to announce the teaser preview of a teaser of a trailer of a prequel...sheesh. still, anyone who still thinks this is gonna fail, please, you have no business here. this is what movies are about, this is stuff of legends. plz plz plz don't fuck it up....

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Marineboy

    by Richard

    Boyles sunshine no? Given the ending is crackers sure but it for me was one of the best sci fi films in a while.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    loved Sunshine...still this is the sci-fi I've been waiting for

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    my god would you look at those fucking SETS!!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    2012 another monumental genre year?

    by Flames gotta Eat

    Didn't we have a huge genre year a few years back? Maybe the Dark Knight year? Anywho, 2012 is shapping up to be fanboy-riffic. Dark Knight Rises, Avengers, Prometheus, even stuff like John Carter. Good times at the theatre in '12!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Denying it has ANYTHING to do with ALIEN, yet...

    by la_sith

    Uses the same trailer music, and everything LOOKS like ALIEN.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Sunshine = best sci-fi flick in years... that and District 9

    by Judge Briggs

    TRUTH.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    oh and The Hobbit!!

    by Flames gotta Eat

    I may be living in the theatre in 2012.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Yes! This & The Hobbit...

    by Sean1701

    And my Chrismukah will be complete!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    spewbacca

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    that's an almost 100% certainty...doesn't mean Prometheus won't end up being the better film

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    May Jackson, Scott, and Nolan guide us through 2012. In they we trust.

    by Flames gotta Eat

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I think Ridley looks pretty damn good for 74.

    by Cureguy

    Still has the same haircut and goatee that he had in '79. Just with a few more wrinkles. Other than that he looks great. Seems like he still has a lot of energy too. Wow, an A L I E N prequel which is gonna blow minds and then a return to Bladerunner. Awesome.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Holy shit real sets not green cloth.

    by Eric

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Jizzfest.

    by fang

    Man, that cheerleader I dated back in high school must be in charge of press coverage on this movie because I haven't been dick teased like this in years.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    blackthirteen

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    recycling your own youtube comments I see

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    are you shitting me?

    by coz

    that didn't show a fucking thing and you're all creaming your shorts because of it? calm down, you'll give yourselves a fucking stroke before you get to see the thing

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    i hope fassbender never pulls out

    by Chaz

    ...of me.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Oh no... he said "epic"...

    by MST3KPIMP

    thats code for self aware and redundant.

  • That's my point really - we've been waiting for something that looks a million light years different from anything we've had before in Sci-Fi. I kinda hoping Prometheus is that film...

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Ok I'm gonna say it.

    by Richard

    I'm excited to see how Ridley uses 3D to enhance the atmospheric experience of the film.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    District 9

    by Richard

    Didn't massa compare it to 2001?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST

    SECOND VIDEO!

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    http://media.filmz.ru/apple/prometheus-countdown-intwodays_h480p.mov

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Youtube Version of Second Video

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn3YouxdY5k

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    finally!

    by rhizomeman

    Cannot wait to see this. Finally, Scott is back in the sci-fi genre. Really hope this is better than his other previous efforts. I must say, he seems really excited about the script. Ever interview about Prometheus he is always hyping the script. Sunshine was good but got silly in the final act with Mr. Crispy. District 9 was WAY overrated. The lead character acted too much like a cartoon - not believable and too heavy-handed with it's racial "message". Go Ridley!!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    so a film that has nothing to do with Alien

    by disfigurehead

    has music from Alien.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Raskol

    by Richard

    Excellent. Is that the big head falling??

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    icarus...I think it's the derelict

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    but it could really be anything

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    best thing is we should be getting a 3rd video before the trailer

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    seems like they're doing the countdown thing with a new one everyday until thursday

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Metaphysical sci-fi is where it's at

    by smudgewhat

    I hope this is great. Sincerely I do. Fassbender hasn't failed me yet.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Still can't see nothing.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    A trailer for a trailer!!!!!! Fuck me I've seen it all now.

    by golden tribw

    Stupid.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    the second teaser

    by flax

    Did I just see humans running for their lives as the Derelict crash-lands on the surface of LV-426?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    I came...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...I saw...I came again.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    2nd Trailer here bitches!!!

    by marineboy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vD7Z-CTbbKk#!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    @Cureguy

    by tritium

    I have been thinking the same exact thing for the past couple of years, and seeing Ridley in interviews. My goodness does that man look good for 79 years old. I have seen people in their late 40's look older then Ridley does today. Hope he gives us another 10+ years of film...before he retires, and subsequently lives to the hearty age of 110 :)

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    It's the derelict.

    by Richard

    My head is spinning with thoughts about this even more now

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    NICE!

    by Blue_Demon

    Ahhh...I remember being a wee lad back in '79...before the internet. All we had was articles in Star Log (or Future Life, remember that one?) or the beautiful OMNI. Great color photos of the derelict...shots of the Nostromo sitting on the planet with wisps of CO2 fog around it...cool shots of Lambert, Dallas and Kane in their spacesuits (best fucking spacesuits ever - equalled only by Kubrick's 2001 suits) and that damn poster with the light leaking from the cracked egg. I remember the trailer playing late night during the Johnny Carso show. I was champing at the bit to see that damn movie. This trailer brought back that feeling. Nice one Sir Ridley!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    errr..."Carso" = "Carson." (Damn you Harry)

    by Blue_Demon

    Edit bu - oh fuck it.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    The sizzle and the scream!! That's what I'm talking about!!

    by Mandolorian

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    2012 is the New 1982!

    by Blue_Demon

    My fellow old-timers will understand.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    1st teaser SLOWWWWWED down HERE....

    by marineboy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUf7lzXR9uE&feature=youtu.be

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    A trailer for a trailer?

    by Timothy_Olyphants_Oliphaunt

    No... a trailer for a trailer.... for a trailer! We're going THREE levels deep!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    @Blue_Demon...shit, almost forgot about OMNI magazine.

    by tritium

    Great stuff. Yes indeed, folks, I am old enough to remember buying the first issues of Starlog, which was my generation's version of the Internet. It was the one of, if not the only) sources to get info on Sci-Fi genre happenings back in the late 70s early 80s.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Again, too much Alien.

    by Henri Pouper

    The cast find an establishment which is not what they expect it to be. What we find in it, dangerous elements that in a heartbeat are capable of eviscerating all of them.

  • Or something else entirely? Hard to tell...

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Let's try that again.

    by Henri Pouper

    The cast find an establishment which is not what they expect it to be. What we find in it, dangerous elements that in a heartbeat are capable of eviscerating all of them.

  • You think I'm kidding. I'm gonna cry like a little bitch when I see the derelict.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Blue_Demon..I gotcha

    by Flames gotta Eat

    1982 part deux comin up! And I think District 9 was a bit redifining myself, hell of a film, incredible effects and very emotional character arc, more heart-string pulling than most sci-fi. Also a giant allegory which all great sci-fi is. Def one of the best sci-fi in the last 10 years.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Nice to see the "District 9" love in here.

    by ChickenStu

    Now that's a fucking movie.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST

    spewbacca

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    yeah marineboy and I posted that one a little while ago in this talkback...I definitely like the second one better...mostly because it implies a third

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    holy crap

    by LegendarySpartanBlood

    i must see this movie

  • *head explodes*

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Fassbender = Android

    by catlettuce4

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Things that appear to be small, but are enormous

    by blue_dog

    How many times has Ridley said that bullshit line to some floozy at a bar? Basically, the Alien in Prometheus is a grower, not a shower.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    So they now make trailers for trailers?

    by NeonFrisbee

    Sheesh. That said, I CAN'T TO SEE THIS MOVIE.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Mother has deciphered some of the...

    by Richard

    It's not an SOS it's more like a warning.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Could be even better than Phantom Menace in 3D

    by Rtobert

    josh'n

  • I'm so pumped for this thing. I hope it inspires more craftsmanship in set design and less CG FX.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Flames and Billy

    by wormcheck

    Don't forget..we also get CABIN IN THE MUTHA FUCKN WOODS next year as well. My checking account may not survive next year!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Zounds!!

    by IamZardoz

    I be ready!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Serious sci-fi:

    by IamZardoz

    2001 Silent Running (yep) Alien (none of the sequels) The Thing (Carpenter only) Blade Runner Sunshine (only if you edit out "the monster") Im sure this will be on the list: Prometheus

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    This looks awesome.

    by I Hope You Die

    Big budget, high concept science fiction with incredible set design. Even if the story sucks it'll be worth the money.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    nice to hear all the love for SUNSHINE

    by zom-bot.com

    one of the few movies i've bought in years. SUNSHINE and MOON (oh the irony of the titles) and district 9 are the only decent sci-fi in the classic sense in a long time.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    What a joke.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Give me a full-on trailer or... ...GTFO!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    NIce to see Walter Hill's name in the credits - big news day for him!

    by ClayMatthews

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Xmas has been moved early to Thursday!!!!

    by quantize

    AWESOME

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    A trailer for a trailer?? Now this is just getting stupid.

    by DrPain

    Bloody show it already.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Whatever!!!

    by Jason Adkins

    This will suck donkey balls. Mark my words!!!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    A teaser for a trailer for a prequel

    by Ricardo

    Now say it three times. Fast.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST

    To quote Dr. Morbius (Forbidden Planet)...

    by zinc_chameleon

    Man was not meant to look upon his GOD and live. I do believe that Ridley is bringing his 'A' game to this; I want to leave the theatre secure in the knowledge that there are questions in the Universe that we really shouldn't have asked, much less have answered. That's what the myth of Prometheus meant to the ancient Greeks, it wasn't just a bedtime story.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST

    You can tell who all the youngsters are on this site...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    they've been doing trailers for trailers for a long time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxybtA8H-p8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDTbQrOGa0&feature=youtu.be

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    so far...so good

    by ATARI

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST

    blue_demon I'm with ya, brother

    by Sir Loin

    It DOES feel like 1982 all over again. I still have old STARLOG and FUTURE LIFE magazines with photos and interviews about A L I E N, and they're still fun to read now and then. 2012 is going to be epic, this time we get to take our own kids to get the crap scared outta them :D

  • 1977 (kind of a big year) • Star Wars • Close Encounters of the Third Kind • The Hills Have Eyes • Martin • The Rescuers • Wizards • First Issue: Heavy Metal magazine • First Monster Manual • First publication of The Silmarillion 1978 • Superman: The Movie • Dawn of the Dead • Halloween • The Hobbit • Watership Down • First Player’s Handbook • Fist Issue: Omni magazine 1979 • Alien • The Black Hole • Battlestar: Galactica • Star Trek: The Motion Picture • The Muppet Movie • The Amityville Horror • The Warriors • Mad Max • First Dungeon Master’s Guide 1980 • The Empire Strikes Back • Altered States • Friday the 13th • The Shining • The Fog 1981 • Escape from New York • The Road Warrior • Clash of the Titans • Dragonslayer • Excalibur • An American Werewolf in London • Scanners • The Howling • Heavy Metal • The Fox and the Hound • Raiders of the Lost Ark 1982 (The Miracle Year) • Blade Runner • E.T. • The Wrath of Kahn • TRON • Conan the Barbarian • The Dark Crystal • The Thing • Poltergeist • Creepshow • The Secret of Nimh • The Last Unicorn • First Blood • 48 Hours 1983 • Return of the Jedi • Twilight Zone: The Movie • Videodrome • Thriller (video) 1984 • Ghost Busters • The Terminator • Gremlins • Godzilla 1985 • The Neverending Story • A Nightmare on Elm Street • The Company of Wolves • Indiana Jones - Temple of Doom • Buckaroo Banzai 1985 • Back to the Future • Legend • Brazil • Day of the Dead • Return of the Living Dead • The Black Cauldron 1986 • Aliens • Captain Eo • Highlander • Labyrinth • The Fly • The Hitcher • Top Gun Not nostalgia, boys. Roots.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    trollspotting, that was great...

    by Astronut

    You are so right. And I was there to experience many of those films during their first runs in theaters. It has always been my personal assertion as well, that 1982 was "the miracle year" as you put it. SO MANY BIG, BIG FILMS that year. The young 'uns have no idea how great it was being able to experience those films at the theater back in the day. To watch them unfold with little to NO SPOILERS, THANKS TO NO INTERNET! just Starlog and such, three or four months after it was actual "news." And yes, I also had to walk ten miles to school in the snow with no shoes. haha Yeah, I'm old. Thanks, man.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Hardcore A L I E N fans, you'll like this, I think...

    by Astronut

    Here's a little story for you. My 17 year-old son was kind of vegging last Thursday night, he had two friends over and so I thought I would just throw the idea out there: “Hey, you guys all wanna watch an amazing film?” So they’re like, “Sure!” (probably thinking to themselves more like, “Sure, old man, watcha got? Charlie Chaplain?”). I’m like, “Ever see ALIEN?” They were like, “Uh, yeah, where they battle against like, Predators and stuff, right?” I’m like, “No. This is the first. Where it all started. The best example of 5-star quality shit in the entire series.” They’re like, “No, never seen it. Um, okay, sure.” So I put the blu ray on. Usually these kids are all texting during a movie and stuff. Well, they weren’t this time. They were silent for a lot of it, just watching. They would jump at the scary parts. Then they were yelling and stuff near the end. They’re minds were BLOWN! It's not really their fault, but these kids have been raised on mindless drivel like GI Joe and Transformers and Twilight and freaking AVP... mediocre crap for years. THEY HAVE NO REFERENCE POINT FOR "GOOD FILM!" It was as if I showed them the light, I kid you not. And to confirm that, I asked them what they thought at the end... They said, “Shit, man, that’s like super high quality right there! That was baller...” Ha!!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I could point out...

    by I am_NOTREAL

    that the music in that clip is from the Alien trailer, not the movie Alien itself. But that would be nerdy. It's pretty clear that they're playing this both ways--that it is both a prequel to Alien and not. The tale will be in the movie itself. Like I'm not going. Yeah. A maybe-prequel of my favorite movie of all time from the director of my favorite movie of all time...I'll pass. Sure.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST

    theczech be intrigued

    by pavel hora

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    @astronaut...

    by tritium

    Just when I thought there was no hope for humanity, you go and post something like that. LOL. Glad you were able to tune a new generation into an example of a quality film...a masterpiece.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Someone over on Alien Prequel News made a GREAT POINT...

    by Astronut

    I want to be mystified, scared, and intrigued that the rabbit hole goes even deeper than I imagined - and a straight up prequel would never push us over that precipice.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST

    And they go on to say...

    by Astronut

    In many ways, this is the Alien companion I've imagined for years. Ridley is right - the Alien is a creature born of an even more terrifying origin. There's plenty there that doesn't involve it in the form we all 'know'. In removing it from the picture, he smartly takes us out of our comfort zones and puts us right back where we were the first time we saw Alien.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Hope the trailer uses Marilyn Manson's "Sweet Dreams" cover!

    by DickBallsworth

    'Cause that would be fucking EPIC!!!

  • I'll be back before dinner.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST

    I'm in

    by Clio

    Now that's more like it. I'm there.

  • I hope he hits this one out of the ballpark.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST

    man I suck at typing

    by skiff

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Real Sets. Real Screams. Real Fire. Real Models

    by future help

    Fake Lucas

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    trollspotting - 1981

    by REDD

    Great memories, don't forget "Outland" from 81 also. And the magazines, had a subscription to Starlog. Anyone remember Fantastic Films magazine? Cinefantastique (which might still be around)?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    We need to bet on which movie of 2012 will

    by JestaFool

    make the most money out of TDKR, Hobbit, and Prometheus. Like...that's anyone's fucking guess.. If I had to pick one though, I would say TDKR will make the most money (I'm actually wanting to see Prometheus just a fucking cunt hair more than TDKR though) because it's got a wider audience pull than Prometheus which is sci-fi and Hobbit which is fantasy "categorically" speaking. So which movie do you think will make the most money or are you wanting to see the most out of these three. Bet you actually may have to think about this one.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Shit is this in 3D?! please say no

    by JestaFool

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    dude pulling the thing from the jar with his hand

    by IamZardoz

    isnt he the same dude looking at a drop of blood on his finger? Maybe that thing bit him. DNA?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST

    This looks like shit

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    just kidding. I don't see any fucking face huggers. Who the fuck said there were face huggers?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST

    jestafool.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    None of the above my friend. I think avengers will make the most. Its the first official summer movie, plus sober downey jr will bring the atmosphere more down to earth. He will carry that movie.

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Happy Elf

    by nobbythehappyelf

    Wow - I haven't enjoyed a prick tease like this since Mommy Choppah danced for me in that truckstop! Seriously woohoo so far - I can't wait for the actual trailer now. The DKR one (other than AH looking hot) did nothing for me. Trollspotting - what a wonderful list, sadly missing the Goonies though? And as for the two entries concerning a dead pedo...

  • releasing thumbnails of the posters?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    well trollspotting

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    My golden age is from 1975-1985. Have to include Texas chainsaw massacre, jaws, and taxi driver.

  • Even if he is a synthetic. I wonder what strange mutations will go through him?

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    They really should aim for a theatrical R-rating.

    by justmyluck

    I'm just getting a vibe that it's more cerebral than popcorn fare. Still looks great!

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Is there any indication that they're NOT aiming for an R?

    by Mattman

  • Dec. 19, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    (and I mean REAL indication... not TB speculation)

    by Mattman

  • http://www.google.com/search?q=prometheus+PG-13

  • Use CG only when it's really necessary, like for small details.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:49 a.m. CST

    No way in hell this is rated R in theaters

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    are you kidding me? There is no art anymore. Everything is a product. PG-13 sells more tickets, so Scott has NO CHANCE fighting with Fox on the decision. They are just toying with him.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 3:15 a.m. CST

    @trollspotting That's my childhood as well (born in '73)

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    yet I'd add The Princess Bride, 1987, at the tail end of your list. (Though there were a few great spec fic movies in the rest of the 80's).

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Looks great but...

    by Gorgomel

    I still don't think this is a good idea to revisit Alien and Blade Runner (Blade Runner 2 is one of the dumbiest idea ever). I would be more excited if Ridley Scott was directing Ubik, Fondation or Rendezvous with Rama...

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 5:10 a.m. CST

    MUST. STOP. WATCHING.

    by photoboy

    I really want to see this film completely cold without having seen any trailers or spoilers. I managed it with Avatar but it seems the lure of a new Aliens film with Ridley Scott at the helm is just too alluring for me to resist. I particularly want to avoid the trailer as trailers always give away the best bits these days. I cannot wait for the film to release, I'll be first in line for it!

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 5:31 a.m. CST

    I am so excited for this.

    by Psyclops

    2012 is going to be a hell of a year. I've been waiting for this movie since the rumors began circulating about Ridley's return to the ALIEN series, this was back before AVP was greenlit and there was still some hope left. From what little we've seen so far, this looks to be a return to that same primal horror, that fear of the unknown that made ALIEN so terrifying. I just hope they choose to go with a harder rating since any kind of "softening" up of the film's content could compromise Ridley's vision.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 6:17 a.m. CST

    1982 -- the Miracle Year indeed.

    by DocPazuzu

    I turned 15 that year and was already a sci-fi/fantasy geek as well as a movie fan so I was more or less at the perfect age and with the perfect interests to be able to appreciate that year for what it was. Just look at that list! And I saw all of those on the big screen back in the day. Even though there were som great movies in the following few years, I knew even then that a year like 1982 would never come again -- at least not in my lifetime. What's interesting about the genre films of 1982 is that not only were there huge, formative, blockbusting movies, but also quite a slew of memorable/schlocky B movies and second tier films like The Beastmaster, Xtro, Basket Case, Forbidden World, Time Walker, Cat People, Firefox, Eating Raoul, Halloween III, Liquid Sky, Swamp Thing and Zapped among many others. 1982 was amazing, simply amazing.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Alien / Blade Runner

    by REDD

    I know it would never happen and crossovers are usually pretty lame, but wouldn't it be interesting if Alien and Blade Runner shared the same universe. I guess the timelines don't really sync up. But, what if the Replicant technology in Blade Runner came from what the scientist in the Alien movies and Prometheus discovered? There could be a scene with Charles Bishop Weyland and Eldon Tyrell signing a partnership agreement.

  • - this CAN'T be happening.

  • ...great feedback, thank you. As far as the magazines that were out in those days cripes, don't get me started. I didn't include them as some did not start publication those years but as I read this feedback I wonder if this is not some alteration to be made to this project. danielnocharismacraig = It was REALLY hard not to push this back to 1975. JAWS alone caused me pain to skip. If I go to '75 I will have to call this BS something else but damn - you are right about that year. Thanks to all again.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    This Better be one Epic Trailer.

    by The Outlander

    I'm already getting a sense that these previews are going to be more interesting than the traler it self.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST

    geek information flow

    by DocPazuzu

    Although I'm very grateful for all the awesomeness the internet has entailed for me in terms of information, collecting and making friends, I also miss the days of yore when information about upcoming movies was but a trickle compared to the floods of info available to us today. I used to read Fangoria and Starlog voraciously (at least until Starlog became Startreklog) and could hardly stand waiting an entire month for the next issue to arrive. That yearning, that excitement is something I don't feel anymore. Weirdly, the only time I can feel that sort of jolt is when I'm leafing through my old magazines, but then it's more of a jolt of nostalgia, remembering what it felt like, rather than actually experiencing it. Sure, I can get worked up about certain projects, but by the time the premiere actually rolls around the experience has been diluted by the inundation of information. Sadly, the public's craving for more and more information is making it worse. I mean, who the hell wants to go see the first eight minutes of an upcoming movie months in advance? I don't care if it's on an iPad or in Imax, you couldn't pay me enough money to watch something like that. I know, I'm a mean old bastard.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST

    The second trailer trailer has a moment with a

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    green screen backdrop, but, yes it looks like we get more practical stuff than normal for contemporary filming, which is refreshing.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST

    yup

    by angelopoulos

    indeed

  • 1987 RoboCop Predator I'd say 1987 deserves to be on the list, even if primarily for RoboCop and Predator, but there were some other good films that year. The Running Man Evil Dead II Bad Taste Empire of the Sun Batteries Not Included Full Metal Jacket Hellraiser The Hidden Prince of Darkness Lethal Weapon The Lost Boys Also, who can forget the cheesy goodness of the two 1987 classics known as Master of the Universe, and Leonard part 6?

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 8:35 a.m. CST

    why would you be doing what fassbender is doing-with bare hands?

    by zom-bot.com

    -unless you were an android and safe to do lab work barehanded? -

  • Seems that whenever we get to talking about Alien or Prometheus around here, the majority of talkbackers seem to have to go out of their way to shit on Aliens and deride it as not being a worthy sequel to Alien.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    lv_426 = click for reply

    by ClayMatthews

    First post, Yeah, 1975 and 1987 were both a real bitch to leave off - I can't argue with your suggestion that it be included other than I was trying to be too "neat". I think I am expanding the scope going forward. Second post, Full disclosure: when ALIENS came out it was one of my favorite films of all time but I have really cooled on it since then. Still, it's just ignorant to pretend it sucked or was irrelevant or failed or some such garbage. Not sure why it gets the hate around here that it does. There are far worse films on my list that I would be negligent to leave off and it's still a very fun movie for a rainy afternoon. Thanks for your feedback!

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    lv_426 (and others)

    by Astronut

    Aliens * IS * a worthy sequel! But it is not the "better" film. I think that's where people like me and the Cameron cock suckers part ways. Cameron is a mainstream, popcorn-muncher action director and caters to the lowest common denominator, complete with cheesy dialog. Ridley Scott is a visionary, a masterstroke artist and a genius. When it comes to lasting, thought-provoking, epic cinema, Cameron isn't fit to shine Ridley Scott's boots. Sorry but it's true.

  • Nontheless i'm stoked & can't wait for the master (Ridley) to return to SCI-Fi!!!

  • Who Framed Roger Rabbit Coming to America Last Temptation of Christ Die Hard (!!!) Miracle Mile Beetlejuice Grave of the Fireflies Akira They Live The Blob (one of the best horror remakes) Dead Ringers Midnight Run My Neighbor Totoro By the time we get to 1989, the best geek films are sequels (Last Crusade, BTTF 2) with a handful of standouts (The Abyss, most notably) It also, of course, gave us Batman which turned out to be both a blessing and a curse for the decade that followed.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Sunshine and District 9, Sex Wee

    by alexander

    Amen

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 9:20 a.m. CST

    All these trailers and making of snippets are great!

    by ufoclub1977

    Whoever's putting them together knows what they're doing.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    1995: the Year That (Almost) Broke Cinema's Back

    by P

    Batman Forever Waterworld Billy Madison Congo Cuthroat Island Johnny Mnemonic Judge Dredd Power Rangers Mortal Kombat Money Train Powder Virtuosity Village of the Damned (Carpenter's worst film) The Net Showgirls Under Siege 2 Vampire in Brooklyn (Murphy was lost in the wilderness, hadn't yet reignited his career with kiddie films) Tank Girl Four Rooms Don't get me wrong. There were some standouts that year (Seven, Braveheart, Heat, Usual Suspects, Bottle Rocket), but the bad films were REALLY bad. Mid-90s bad. Horror was DOA. Nothing. Fangoria was doing feature stories on fucking DTV leprechaun sequels. These were lean years to be a geek (up until 97 when the OS was rereleased). My friends and I were desperate for geek material ("Oh, let's go see Star Trek: Generations. At least it has...you know...space ships.")

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    zombie_fatigue = I think you did just set the limit...

    by ClayMatthews

    ...your argument about sequels/remakes (or "properties" if you will) starting to rule the roost is really sound, I think. So for me, personally, I will run from the release of JAWS - the first modern summer blockbuster mall movie (although a damn fine film) until "the idea became the institution" and stop before 1989. It really is pretty incredible. Think of what all else happened in the same time frame. In games we saw the first publication of Dungeons and Dragons, BattleTech, Warhamer. In magazines we saw the start of Starlog, Heavy Metal, Omni, Fangoria. Hell, we had Neuromancer in 1984. It was the birth of home video and the creation of the CD. Amazing.

  • Seems all the talkbackers hate AL(L)ENS these days and lump it in along with Alien³, Alien Resurrection, and the two shitty AvP films. Not just here at AICN either, I see it all over the place now. The prevailing attitude now seems to be that Alien is a cinematic masterpiece given to us by the one true cinematic God Sir Ridley of Scott, while Aliens is a shitty GI Joe versus the Aliens money grab by that hack B-movie truck driving fuck stick James Cameron.* I guess if that is how people feel about the Alien series these days, and everyone is blindly optimistic about Prometheus while shitting on Aliens, then I suppose it illustrates that this "franchise" isn't for me anymore. I mean, if all people have to see and hear to proclaim Prometheus as the savior of sci-fi films are Ridley Scott does some more Alien stuff, and that is enough to cast out one of the best sequels ever produced, for what? We don't know enough yet, and have had nothing but wishy washy conflicting info about this film. First it's and Alien film, then it isn't, nowi it is, then wait... not an alien film. WTF? And they then show us these teasers for a trailer using none other than music from Alien. Then there is all the "leaked" Prometheus plot stuff that sounded pretty shitty at best. At least wait a few more days until the official trailer hits, oh and maybe until the movie actually comes out until you all proclaim it as a masterpiece. I see some bloke up above has already used Prometheus to take a little jab at Neill Blomkamp's Elysium, which is a film we really don't know anything about yet. But no, it couldn't possibly be anywhere near as brilliant as Prometheus could it? Add to that Sir Ridley sounding a bit contemptuous towards Aliens fans in that interview (the Alien in Disneyland stuff and the first Alien being a C picture done in an A picture style). Really? He can't even acknowledge that Alien has some roots in B movies, but even worse, C movies so as to inflate the brilliance of Sir Ridley even more. What is a C movie anyways? Softcore porno? I don't know, I take that as he thinks us fans who still find the original alien creature a compelling character (yes character, not just a throwaway monster) as a bunch of retards. I mean, for fuck's sake, has he even watched his own damn "masterpiece" of sci-fi/horror and compared it to the other films in the series? Alien still holds its dark power after all these years because it was all about what context the alien is put into. Compare the dark industrial nightmarish shadow world of the Nostromo, where the alien can hide and hunt down the doomed crew with that of the overly lit interiors of the Auriga from Alien Resurrection. Just to illustrate this point, go look at bts pics of Alien. That view into it totally changes the perception of the alien when it is a guy in a suit with a bunch of film crew people standing around it and they all seem chill like it is a normal everyday thing. I've always liked a little anecdote that Tom Skerritt (Dallas) tells in the Alien Anthology bts interviews. He says how one day on the set he was waiting to shoot a scene and out of a door comes Bolaji Badejo (the tall dude in the Alien suit) in the suit minus the alien head, with a flamboyant make up artist or some crew member holding the tail and walking alongside the man in the alien suit. Skerritt says that it was hilarious as they got outside the flamboyant man's scarf was blowing in the wind and it was just a silly and surreal little real life scene. Now that ain't scary at all. But then you put the alien in the dark corridors of the Nostromo, edited together with Goldsmith's brilliant score and suggestive editing and sound design, and you have something terrifying. That is what makes an Alien movie good. I just hate this mentality that they have to throw out everything that has worked and deride it as if it is some antiquated little curiosity nowadays. Add to that the difference in cutting styles between the first film and the sequels, and Alien was the most conservative in terms of showing us the creature. It used the "less is more" approach to a greater extent than the sequels (although Cameron used a very similar level of "less is more" showmanship until the end with the queen and the ramping up of action over horror in Aliens). All that added to the terror, not only because the alien was a new idea on film. Yes, being first to bat with a concept, that certainly helps, but Scott and the Aliens haters seem to think that just that alone was the primary factor that made Alien successful. Not so in my opinion. At this point, it just reeks of "I was there first and you all shouldn't get any credit for the sequels you fucking parasites" kinda attitude. Dan O'Bannon has that chip on his shoulder attitude in the Alien Quadrilogy interviews and bts footage. Hell, Cameron said something similar, but in reference to a different film. When Starship Troopers was nearing release, he said something like "why did they make it, I already made that film with Aliens". Sigh. I hate that kind of mentality that successful artistic people sometimes have. It is the "I was first, so no one else is allowed to be inspired by my film or book or whatever I made" attitude that immediately belittles another person's efforts. I mean, it is fine to be critical and have a strong opinion of something if you don't like it, but at least wait and see. And Cameron should talk (see: Terminator and Avatar and how those two had tons of stuff lifted from other books, films, and short stories). So Ridley Scott is bored with the Alien creature. So instead of just saying that, he has to act all high and mighty and crack a joke about it being a Disney character now. You know what though, the Alien fans of the world didn't put the xenomorph in Disneyland. The Alien fans didn't have the power to greenlight the shitty AvP films. Just because Fox and Brandywine (Giler, Hill) steadily fucked up the franchise post-Aliens, don't act like the fans are to blame and now Prometheus is here to wrap it all up. I mean, he's obviously in cahoots with Giler and Hill, as they are the "pay us for doing nothing good for the Alien series at this point" co-producers on Prometheus. So if we aren't supposed to acknowledge the alien movies from Aliens on through AvP part 2, then does that mean there shouldn't have been anymore World War II movies made after whatever was the first movie made about that war? If no more Aliens, then there can't be any more military sci-fi films or TV shows too. I guess Battlestar Galactica can frak off. No more Vietnam movies. No more movies about cyborgs because we already have RoboCop and Terminator. No matter if someone can come up with an interesting twist or new story in these genres and sub-genres. It has all been done before. No one can do these types of films again. They are off limits. No more Batman after DKR. No more superhero films after The Avengers. No more vampire movies after Twilight finishes off its shit saga of sparkl-i-ness. So Prometheus should be the last Alien-related movie then? Boy, it had better be fucking good then. Hopefully it won't be about time-traveling biomechanoid infected androids becoming the progenitors of mankind or whatever that leaked synopsis stated was the storyline. I really hope that Sir Ridley saves science fiction for all of you. Yeah, Ridley Scott, the only person capable of doing a good sci-fi film anymore. I love that logic. If he is so brilliant, then how come all he can come up with for his great return to science fiction cinema after all these years is another Alien film and Blade Runner II? I know this was a harsh rant, but know that I am glad you all are getting another Alien (or Alien-esque) movie though. I hope it is an enjoyable time for you folks at the cinema come June when Prometheus finally shines upon a silver screen. I really hope that Prometheus is the masterpiece you are all wanting it to be. * I don't think this, but am merely trying to give an idea of how most Alien fans seem to think of things and blather on about how big of a "perceived" gap there is between the first two Alien films. It is a truly skewed and totally close-minded way to look at both of the films. Sure if Aliens was Highlander II: The Shittening, then I could sort of see where these arguments are coming from. Since Aliens is not that, but one of the best sequels ever made (but not topping the original Alien, more like complimenting it), I find the whole thing rather pointless by now. If the fans hate the entire series save for the original, then maybe Fox and Ridley Scott made a HUGE MISTAKE trying to do Prometheus. FACT CHOPPED!!!! Or something along those lines that doesn't exist in this dojo.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I just want it to be great

    by w4tkn

    I don't get the 'I want it to be Hard R' comments. I just want a good film, if the gore supports the story that's fine, but if you just want a gory film then watch this - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102293/ You guys sound like gore fans not movie fans

  • 1. Star Trek in syndication: Even though only 79 episodes were produced, its constant rotation beginning in the early 70s (technically 69) spawned a whole generation of sci-fi fans. In 1972, there was the first Star Trek convention in NY. This is where geekdom as we know it began. By the time Star Wars came out in 77, the audience was primed for it. For mainstream audiences, it was "something new" but for geeks it was the realization of our geekiest dreams come true. 2. Tolkien: Even though the Hobbit came out in 36, it was the late-era baby boomers and their younger siblings who embraced it in the late 60s and 70s. Frodo was rediscovered by a new generation and became sort of a counter culture icon. Growing up in the early 80s, I can distinctly remember seeing graffiti from the 70s claiming "Frodo Lives." My take on the genisis of both modern sci-fi and fantasy may be a bit too simplistic, but I think it's a good starting point. In any case, I love these kinds of discussions!

  • Or does anybody actually like any of the shitty inferior works that Ridley Scott hasn't directed? -- including both films and TV sci-fi -- 2001: A Space Odyssey A Clockwork Orange The Terminator RoboCop The Matrix countless classic The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits episodes Battlestar Galactica (the newer series) The Thing (1982 John Carpenter remake) Inception Moon Alphaville La Jetee / Twelve Monkeys Escape From New York Akira Ghost in the Shell Children of Men Close Encounters of the Third Kind Minority Report X-Files Zardoz I don't know, I'd say a lot of those are at least worthy of being lumped into the category of intelligent science fiction films and TV shows. Sure, Ridley is great with sci-fi, but I'd hardly call him "the master" as he made two sci-fi films and hasn't had much if any interest in the genre for nearly 25 years up til now when he started working on Prometheus. I'm sure 20th Century Fox would have let him make another Alien film before now if he had wanted to do so. Likewise, if he had wanted to make another science fiction film between now and 1982, I'm sure he could have gotten a project like that off the ground. This is Sir Ridley Scott after all, a director who has primarily stuck to making big budget movies his entire career.

  • Or does anybody actually like any of the shitty inferior sci-fi works that Ridley Scott hasn't directed? -- including both films and TV sci-fi -- 2001: A Space Odyssey A Clockwork Orange The Terminator RoboCop The Matrix countless classic The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits episodes Battlestar Galactica (the newer series) The Thing (1982 John Carpenter remake) Inception Moon Alphaville La Jetee / Twelve Monkeys Escape From New York Akira Ghost in the Shell Children of Men Close Encounters of the Third Kind Minority Report X-Files Zardoz I don't know, I'd say a lot of those are at least worthy of being lumped into the category of intelligent science fiction films and TV shows. Sure, Ridley is great with sci-fi, but I'd hardly call him "the master" as he made two sci-fi films and hasn't had much if any interest in the genre for nearly 25 years up til now when he started working on Prometheus. I'm sure 20th Century Fox would have let him make another Alien film before now if he had wanted to do so. Likewise, if he had wanted to make another science fiction film between now and 1982, I'm sure he could have gotten a project like that off the ground. This is Sir Ridley Scott after all, a director who has primarily stuck to making big budget movies his entire career.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I still love Aliens, in fact it's my favourite film ever

    by photoboy

    But Alien is also a fucking masterpiece. I'm more than happy to sit down and re-watch either of those films any time. Alien and Aliens were the first films I bought on VHS, DVD and on Blu-Ray. I'm amazed people can hate on either of those films, they're both fantastic. I hated Alien3 at the time, I then grew to somewhat respect it, but these days I think it's mostly a waste of potential. That said, I still think it's the best looking film in the series even if the story is disappointing. Resurrection I liked at the time, but since then it has plummeted in my estimation. So for Ridley Scott to be going back to the Alien franchise, I'm more excited than I was when I first heard George Lucas was making The Phantom Menace.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    zombie_fatigue = agreed on Trek/Tolkien.

    by ClayMatthews

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    lv_426 = also try...

    by ClayMatthews

    ...and I know you have... Forbidden Planet Brazil Kontroll Primer Planet of the Apes (Heston version) The Man Who Fell to Earth Invasion of the Body Snatchers Solaris (Russian original) When Worlds Collide War of the Worlds (George Pal) Gojira (1954) District 9 and (putting my head in the lion's mouth)... Star Wars (1977) and The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 2001: A Space Odyssey is simply my favorite film ever. The first five or ten times I watched it I didn't tear up at the end. Now it gets a little dusty in the room every time. Hey! For extra credit, complete this sequence - La Jetee...Twelve Monkeys...and THIS David Bowie video!

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    zombie_fatigue, Star Trek and Tolkien theory

    by lv_426

    I think that what you say has a lot of truth to it. In fact, it worries me as I think it is time for me to finally admit that science fiction, at least the type I grew up on, is actually kind of dead or almost in grave. The people born in the 60's and 70's who grew up in that "golden age" of 70's through mid-80's sci-fi and fantasy are being usurped by the Twilight and Transformers loving crowds of the present day. Now, the Twilight/Transformers fans have every right to like what they want to like, but let's face facts, they probably don't appreciate nor will they be able to appreciate the type of stuff that has come before. They are more interested in the shiny objects, sparkling stuff, and bay' splosions that modern fare offers rather than the stuff that made everything from Twilight Zone to Alien to Neuromancer so great and lasting in terms of still holding value even to this day. Add to that that a lot of the tech in classic and 70's/80's sci-fi might not be snazzy enough for the young whipper snappers of today since we live in a science fiction world in some ways. Ipads and the internet and 3D HDTV and whatnot. All that stuff seems like things we could only imagine as "futuristic" back in the day, is just routine everyday bullshit now. Then there is the fact that science fiction novels, once the fountainhead of ideas and new concepts for the genre, are pretty much sputtering out. All the sci-fi/fantasy sections at the ever shrinking number of book stores are littered with vampire/werewolf urban fantasy stuff and Tolkien-esque fantasy tomes that are often so overwritten they could make the likes of Stephen King gasp at their bullet stopping page counts. Where are the modern day sci-fi novel equivalents of brisk idea-filled and bold works by the likes of Clarke, Le Guin, and PK Dick? Even if they do exist, they are few and far between and buried under all the urban fantasy stuff. Does the youth of today even read much anymore? And when they do, they go straight for the Hunger Games and the "young adult" section of the bookstore anyways. So in that context, I kind of see why everyone is banking all their hopes on Prometheus as being one last jolt of that great type of late 70's to early 80's era science fiction cinema.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    lv_426 = breaking kind of a rule here but...

    by ClayMatthews

    ...gotta invoke my kid. My youngest (13) just finished reading "Dune". He had already done Rings/Hobbit (among others) and is getting a collection of Verne for Christmas. So not all is lost. My take on it is this: there was junk being made back in the day and there is junk being made right now. But there is also great work being done all the time. Thor/Cap/Xmen were good this year. HUGO was terrific. Tabletop games have done what they were going to do but some of the video games that came out this very year are absolutely stunning. And yes, next year holds unbelievable promise for movies. Still, there was something so original and spontaneous about what was being done back then.

  • ANY FILMMAKERS WHO WANT TO DO A PREQUEL, JUST DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT LUCAS DID. It may not make you as much money, but you'll get the respect from talkbackers. Talkbackers know EVERYTHING ABOUT FILM AND COMICS. You know this to be true.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    And yup, I just reposted that from the other TB

    by ToughGuyRizzo

  • FASSSSSSSSBENDAH!

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Showing results for pretensious. Did you mean pretentious?

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Cause I looked that word up just now.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    What's this hating ALIENS shit?

    by DocPazuzu

    Is that the new cool? Christ, and I thought it was only that insufferable asshole dannyglovers_dickblood who was that contrary. My utter love for Scott's Alien has, if anything, only increased the more I've watched it over the decades. This, however, doesn't prevent me from adoring Aliens for what it is, an absolute asskicker of an action/sci-fi movie. What's not to love?

  • depending on what side of the bed I woke up in that morning (feeling a bit more glass-half-empty today). But Thursday I get to see Tintin, so perhaps Mr. Spielberg will temporarily restore my faith in modern genre films... ...or I'll walk out screaming "what a soulless piece of shit!" Haha. Hope springs eternal, gents.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Harvy Dent is dead idiot. Two-Face is uh.....uh....uh...

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Another personality. So yes, there's a chance he'll be back. Shit, Scarecrow is listed in the credits on IMDB. Eat it Harvey.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    LV_426...

    by Blue_Demon

    I think Aliens is a GREAT film. I don't know where you got the idea that fans are down on it. Most geeks love it. On the BLADE RUNNER dvd somebody comments that BLADE RUNNER is the "last great analog science fiction film" before cgi took over. I must disagree and say that ALIENS is the last great analog science fiction film. The Skotak brothers flying the lander on wires. Stan Winston and his crew tossing men in alien suits this way and that (and lets not forget that marvel of puppeteering that is the Alien Queen). A fucking APC minature racing through a miniature set! Awsome movie. ALIEN and ALIENS are just two different takes on a subject. Ridley's protagonists were working joes who run into a very dangerous creature and are hobbled in their fighting against it by their surroundings: "Never seen anything like that except molecular acid." "Wonderful defense mechanism. You don't dare kill it." The Marines in ALIENS have a different way of looking at things: "Look man...I only wanna know one thing: Where they are." Somebody said above that the two movies compiment each other and they are right. Great flicks. Regarding Ridley's not wanting to use the xenomorph - This I can understand. We're very familiar with this creature now. Familiarity removes a lot of the scariness. You ride shotgun with the monster and all of its awe goes out the window. Take vampires for instance. They were one of the most terrifying things in mythology and Ann Rice reduces them to whiners in the second novel (The novelty factor saves the first book, in my opinion). A few years later, Stephanie Meyers cleans them up and sells them to your little sister. It will be a while before a vampire movie is made where we huddle around a fire clutching crucifixes and stakes. Perhaps Ridley is afraid this has happened with the xenomorph.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I'm fine with no xenomorph. But what will be the big bad then?

    by ToughGuyRizzo

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    No Aliens hate here

    by Keith

    It's more that it's fallen slightly in my estimation over time, whereas Alien has risen. If I'd have drawn up a geeky "top 50 movies" twenty years ago (and I'm sure I did), I think "Aliens" would have been at around #3. These days it would be somewhere around #20. By contrast, I would have put "Alien" at around #15 twenty years ago, whereas now it would be #2.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    trollspotting

    by DrMorbius

    Nice to see the love for Forbidden Planet! extra credit ......A Space Oddity?

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    docpazuzu re: geek information flow

    by Keith

    How old were you at the time, though? I recognize instantly what you're talking about, but sometimes I wonder if it's just being young that makes EVERYTHING so awesome. When I was aged six to eighteen, I was just in love with it all...movies, books, magazines, music, girls...and nobody ever has that combo of novelty and hormones again in their lives. It's sad, but I doubt any of us will ever experience that extended rush for a second time, except perhaps through our own kids.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I can't understand these people who don't get that.

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    I can't understand your rant. You write worse than Harry.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    DocP

    by DrMorbius

    In an old thread (the director of an upcoming Sword, Sorcery and Sandal flick was asking for input) you mentioned an old Kari Wuhrer flick and I asked if you'd ever seen Vivid, aka:Luscious. Ever track it down? Thoughts?

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Ridley Scott is now such a superstar. And in love that!

    by AsimovLives

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    docpazuzu

    by AsimovLives

    How you doing? enjoying the teasers of PROMETHEUS so far? If memory serves, you are a big fan of Ridley Scott and his Alien movie.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance

    by lv_426

    Anyone who can't tell the difference between a kiddie flick and a real science fiction movie doesn't deserve to be making any more garbage to fill up the screens today.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance

    by lv_426

    =Anyone who can't tell the difference between a kiddie flick and a real science fiction movie doesn't deserve to be making any more garbage to fill up the screens today.= Well, I personally don't dislike Alien. Actually I love it, but I also love the sequel Aliens. I don't know why someone is a retard if they like both films equally. No, they are different in a lot of ways, but I think that they compliment each other so well that they make a great cinematic duo. The problems start with Alien 3 and on from there, although I will admit to liking a lot of elements from Alien 3. Alien Resurrection was sort of the big turning point for the series in my opinion. It pissed off so many fans, but at the same time it could have at least been the start to another sequence of Alien films, whether or not Ripley still played a part in any sequels. The real downward spiral was Alien vs. Predator. That completely took things in the absolute wrong direction and derailed any chance of recovery up until now. At least with Resurrection, maybe there could have been a sequel that steered things back on course. I mean, who knows, in some alternate universe, Guillermo Del Toro or David Cronenberg made a good Alien film after Resurrection instead of the shitty AvP nonsense? It is fine if you don't like Aliens. No one said you had to. I am just sick of having to be ashamed of being a fan of Aliens. Not every Aliens fan only likes that film. Like I said, I love the original Alien as well. While I like the Colonial Marines, Ripley, and the notion of having more than one alien in the film, I am not of the mind that the whole series should be limited to that type of Alien film. If anything, Aliens was the only one that truly embraced the military fighting the aliens in a serious way. Resurrection, while it had the futuristic military setting and elements, doesn't count. Resurrection wasn't a war film in any way shape or form like Aliens was. =Aliens lovers - You have no right to the ALIEN. Cameron didn't make it. Cameron is a Ridley fan. Cameron admits his sequel is simply a fan boy fantasy. Cameron is the one who asked Ridley to stop making crap like Robin Hood and make more sci-fi. WHY?!?! Because Cameron IS a Ridley Scott fanboy! I can't understand these people who don't get that.= See, this is what I was talking about earlier. Aliens is shitty now? Wow that was fast. Literally like a year from being a classic sci-fi film for the past 25 years to a shitty abortion of a sequel that can maybe now attain a -cult classic- status at best. I am done with the Alien series though. My Alien Anthology Blu-ray and DVD Quadrilogy sets are going in the trash, or maybe to Goodwill. This is just no fun anymore, Alien vs. Aliens and all the bullshit it entails these days. I've seen these films so many times I've lost count. So it isn't like I didn't get to experience this crazy and creepy sci-fi universe many times over the years. I am thankful for the dark journey it has provided. At least I won't have to suffer if Prometheus turns out to be a big stinking disappointment. And if it is great, oh well, I still have The Hobbit, Pacific Rim, and Elysium to look forward to in 2012/2013. Also, I can't imagine the hate that will be spewed towards Aliens and any remaining fans of that film if Prometheus actually manages to deliver on its lofty promises. So this is it for me and the Alien(s). With a little luck, I'll think of a more fitting talk back handle and maybe return here someday. This is lv_426, last survivor of the AL(l)ENS fan club, signing off.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Ridley to co/direct Avatar 2????

    by unit1421

    I keep hearing persistent buzz that Ridley may be involved with Avatar 2 as a kind of thank you from JC since Aliens is what really make JC a super star moreso than Terminator. It COULD be that while JC is doing all the underwater sequences, Ridley would handle some of the other sequences to keep the production on schedule.

  • How can ANYONE hate on that movie? It's basically perfect.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Exploring the alien "universe"

    by CptBlood

    I'm really looking forward to prometheus. Love alien, and a lot of the franchise but I'm not sure how much I want to explore the "alien" universe. In my mind the original four movies are set in our universe just in the future. That's one of the things that made Alien scary. It felt like it was our future, our technology, the characters were humans, the science was our understanding of science. This helped make the alien feel, well, alien. The "alien" universe as it has expanded has been explored and twisted into something I don't really feel represents our possible future past or present. I hope ridley explores what he imagines our universe to be and doesn't try to explore some wider mythology.

  • no middle ground bubbeh. i hope you were just being sarcastic to make a point. if so, you need to add just a tad bit more dark humor to sell it. if not, then you are one of the whiny sorts who think they must announce to the internets whenever they go on the rag and start having personality and mood changes

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    I like Aliens but it's an action movie...

    by I Hope You Die

    There's no intrigue in Aliens. Alien, on the other hand, is an excellent exercise in world-building. The story is small but leaves you with the impression that you've encountered something much bigger. Cameron had his own version of that: the original Terminator. And he did his own Aliens-like big budget action movie sequel to it too.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    ALIENS is one of the best action movies of all time.

    by frank

    It is also an excellent sequel to ALIEN in that it builds on the original story from a very different perspective. It’s one of the rare sequels that doesn’t just try to copy its predecessor, but instead actually has a valid reason for existing. It brings something new (and awesome) to the table. I personally prefer the slow-burning creepiness of ALIEN overall, but there are plenty of times that I have felt more like watching the unbridled bad-assery that is ALIENS. There are definitely two great movies in the franchise, as far as I am concerned. Hopefully Prometheus will make it three.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    lv_426, you can send that alien blu-ray set my way.

    by P

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Story Synopsis ***MAJOR SPOILERS***

    by TopHat

    This takes place in the same universe as ALIEN, but, is not a prequel. The characters involved get thrown through a wormhole and end up on a planet that looks like earth ...at first. Suddenly, what looks to be a horse comes galloping towards them. As it gets closer, what appears to be a horn is protruding out the top of its head - a unicorn. Then, a tall, massive figure appears. It looks human, yet, has two HUGE horns coming out of its head. When it gets near, its red skin and horse legs can be seen. Tim Curry then screams: "WELCOME TO MY WORLD, BITCHES!" That's right... PROMETHEUS, is a prequel to LEGEND. Minds. Blown.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    misterdarcy

    by DocPazuzu

    I was 15 in 1982. Yeah, I wasn't yet as cynical as I can be these days, but I'd like to think I didn't instantly love everything that came down the pike. Several movies from that period I either didn't like or was indifferent to at the time. I have since gone on to appreciate them over the years so I would still maintain that there was a consistency of either quality, imagination or inventiveness which is not as prevalent in the current era of fantastic cinema.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST

    misterdarcy...

    by Blue_Demon

    "...and nobody ever has that combo of novelty and hormones again in their lives." Wish I'D written that! Well said and on the spot.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    attention ALIEN/ALIENS bashers!

    by DocPazuzu

    Bottom line: If you spend half or more of your posts bashing either ALIEN or ALIENS to prove your superior taste in loving the other, you instantly fail. It actually is possible to love two films equally while still acknowledging that one is superior to the other in terms of quality.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    morb

    by DocPazuzu

    No, never did track that down, sorry.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Alien and Aliens are both amazing and incredibly rewatchable!

    by Cruzboy

    What the fark is all this nonsense!?! Geeks just trying to be different and validate their own existence again I suspect!

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Anyone that thinks this looks like shit...

    by jimmy_009

    ...is either trolling or the biggest fucking moron on the planet.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 6:34 p.m. CST

    MOST people who like ALIENS are just TERMINATOR fans

    by DocPazuzu

    That's the most ludicrous argument I've heard so far. You have absolutely nothing to back that up with. By your logic, loving Scott's Alien universe makes it impossible to love the Terminator universe, since loving the Terminator universe means you love Aliens, and if you love Aliens you can't possibly appreciate Scott's Alien. What a load of horseshit.

  • That could be their security feature. Or it could be alien blood. My mind is racing trying to put two and two together. Damn, I can't wait for this movie. So many questions.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    bla bla bla bla bla bla

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    It's sad that Alien is so relevant today, there's not a lot of classic sci fi to compare it to. Thanks George Lucas, thanks for Phantom Menace you fucking douchebag. Aliens>Alien imo but they're both masterpieces. There's no fucking way Prometheus comes anywhere close to Alien or Aliens, I'm afraid all you fanboys are going to be extremely disappointed and will need to be put on suicide watch. Start taking Prozac right now as a preemtive measure imo. Kingdom of Heaven is one of the most fanboy nerd overrated movies ever. You just WISH it was a masterpiece because in today's world they just don't make movies the way they used to. At least it will be better than Alien 3.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    It's looking like the leaked script might be the real deal = Noooooo!

    by Wookie_Weed

    Please, please don't let it be the real deal. it was very unoriginal and underwhelming.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST

    @mentaldominance, you have the mental dominance of a dead hamster

    by Wookie_Weed

    Go fuck yourself with one, which you probably are right now.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Alien and Aliens are equal

    by Wookie_Weed

    They both equally have aspects that are better than the other. They both have pride of place on my DVD mantel piece and I will love them equally for different reasons. if that makes me a geek mormon, then so be it.

  • Alien captured the end of 70s malaise: the jittery discomfort and general cultural uneasiness. Aliens, in contrast, is pumped up, Regan era rock-em, sock-em spectacle. And for those who think I'm "reading too much into it" should go back and study the cultural trajectory of popular entertaint between, say, 1979-1985. "Rocky" to "Rocky IV" "Darkness on the Edge of Town" to "Born in the U.S.A" So if the new film successfully reflects our current era (which seems to be more along the lines of late 70s malaise) then it just might be something great.

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    lol wookie, indeed!

    by P

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    good to see guy pearce in something.

    by dahveed1972

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Jesus, that looks awesome!

    by Jake Pantlin

  • Dec. 20, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Has this upload of the full trailer been shared yet?

    by ILK

    http://tinyurl.com/7xk4zvo Looks a little better than the one I watched before. Saved. But I bet this won't be up long.

  • A movie that took so long to plan, with such a cast, never-before-seen-technology AND telling the backstory to one of the most iconic villains in film history. No way that could go wrong... right? Some people here want to pretend that Riddley Scott's filmography is unparalleled, and that he has done nothing but masterpieces. He has one true masterpiece: the original Alien. He also has several great films, some flawed movies, and quite a few of real shitty ones. Prometheus could go either way. Better to keep low expectations, to avoid a massive disappointment. Can't forget about the people who wrote the script.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    I have SEEN the trailer

    by Will

    And its pretty damn good. Very good at not giving away too much but it SCREAMS Alien. The title font is exactly like alien and the big Cannon gun thing that the huge corpse was sitting at in the original is seen for a split second. Im very excited... nipples erect excited.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Aliens is great. You shouldn't care too much about the

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    vocal minority online, or the younger general majority buying tickets to Bayformers and then shitting on our childhood favorites on message boards because their memories are short. They are all Philistines.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 2:21 a.m. CST

    mentaldominance

    by DocPazuzu

    You're not former talkbacker nodiggity, by any chance, are you? That's ridiculous. By your logic, David Fincher's Alien 3 takes place in the same universe as Se7en because they share a similarly bleak tone and color palate. The fact that you're offended by people liking Aliens as much as Alien indicates that you're very insecure in your love for Alien and that you're not comfortable with it unless everyone else is safely labeled a poopy-head. It's a fundamentalist view very similar to those particular Christians or Muslims who aren't satisfied knowing they're going to Heaven unless they know everyone else is burning in Hell.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Wow, nice discussion guys. Fascinating!

    by ILK

    I POSTED THE FULL TRAILER ABOVE! hahhaaha. Just pokin fun. But yeah, I posted a better quality copy of the full trailer. Still up, too. As an aside, I loved Alien but when I watched Aliens the first time, I recall getting a really bad feeling in my tummy when the space Marines first showed on screen. I thought... oh boy.. here we go. Hokeyville here we come. BUT.... I quickly got sucked into it all and fell in love with the film. Yeah, it may be more dated than Alien, but it's still one of the best action/sci-fi films.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    So Prometheus is Event Horizon?

    by Wookie_Weed

    I fucking hope that leaked bioformer script is a fake. If that's the move, then I'll be very disappointed that's all Sir Ridley could come up with.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 6:41 a.m. CST

    mentaldominance

    by DocPazuzu

    ''Therefore ANY sequel or prequel not at least done by the same director, production team, soundtrack people, etc. is a RAPE of the original world created by the original team.'' What an absolute load of pretentious, masturbatory, film class bollocks. I've seen a lot of it over the years so I recognize it instantly. Not only are your theories utter wank, but you contradict yourself as well. Either you stick by your initial assertion that a director, because of his/her style, is incapable of creating films that take place in more than one universe (like Cameron), and admit that Alien takes place in the same universe as A Good Year, or you concede that Cameron is capable of presenting Aliens and The Terminator as not being in the same universe. You're ''offended''..... Oh, please...

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    mentaldominance...

    by P

    Was "Star Wars"raped by "Empire Strikes Back"? Director Irvin Kershner, writers Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan, and production designer Norman Reynolds (who replaced John Barry) respectively elevated the performances and gave the film a very different (most would argue enhanced) look, feel and tone. Yes, they were working under Lucas' supervision and most of the original collaborators were brought back on board, but these artists brought an entirely new thing to the Star Wars universe. Essentially, they brought something to the table that simply was not there before (and wouldn't be there again, IMO). What about Wrath of Kahn? Did Nicholas Meyer "rape" the work of Robert Wise? Of course not. He made a better film! Your arguement simply doesn't hold up because (as mentaldominance hinted at) you seem to be trying to apply the "auteur theory" to major productions with hundreds of creative collaborators. Sorry for the "pile-on" but we need to keep each other honest here.

  • The much superior director's cut, however, is just stupid to bash it.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Both Alien and Aliens are very good movies. I prefer Alien.

    by AsimovLives

    I think Alien is the superior movie of those two. I love it better. It connects with me more. But saying that, Aliens is a very good movie. And it's no good to use one of those movies as a weapon against the other. That's not good.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 9:40 a.m. CST

    hank henshaw

    by AsimovLives

    I'm sorry, but BLADE RUNNER is also a masterpiece, not just of SF but of cinema as a whole. A movie constantly voted best or nearly at the top of the best SF movie lists. And his director's cut of KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is also or very nearly a masterpiece as well. And the man has a whole career of underrated movies. With the exception of GI JANE or WHITE SQUALL, those truly suck.

  • Thanks for that nightmare there, pal!

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    If Aliens was the same tone as Alien, it would have been garbage

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Aliens is a perfect example of a movie where the director/writer/team was wise enough to realize any attempt at recapturing the original movie would be come off as a weak remake. The shock factor of something that had never been on film before wouldn't work in a sequel (see: every Alien knock off since). So they went into a completely different genre and it worked better than any sequel before. Alien was a Haunted House, Aliens was a Roller Coaster. Alien 3 tried to another Haunted House and ended up being a Friday the 13th movie with no scares and no hot women. I hope Promethius ends up like a better Rise of the Planet of the Apes. You pretty much how it ends up, but it's not as handcuffed to the other movies as say the Star Wars prequels and there's plenty of wiggle room in that universe to do something interesting and still satisfy the fans who want to see Aliens.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Everything we're seeing looks like the leaked synopsis.

    by I Hope You Die

    Supposedly it was fake. But all the scenes are in this trailer. Plus everything Scott has said in interviews is in line with the synopsis.

  • Especially for sci-fi aesthetics is a huge part of the equation. Actually, I feel like it is aesthetics, script, and score that are the three pillars that must be strong or the whole cinematic building collapses. As for the difference between the Ridley Scott sci-fi universe (Alien, Blade Runner) versus the James Cameron (Terminator, Aliens, Abyss, and Avatar) sci-fi one, I think Aliens and Alien overlap just fine. Actually, I always felt that in chronological order, you could have the following films as part of the same fictional universe: - Blade Runner - Alien - Aliens Terminator is definitely its own separate thing. While you are right, there are a few things in Aliens that remind me of The Terminator (Michael Biehn, Lance Henrickson, blue lighting and color palette, and futuristic firepower), overall it felt to me like this was the same cinematic reality. A few things to consider are that Ridley's Alien had a good deal of blue light in its palette too. Also, Aliens taking place 57 years later gave a good narrative reason to let Cameron do some of his own things and not have to completely copy every aspect of Ridley's film. As you said though, Aliens is everything Alien isn't. Now, I think that is a bit radical of a notion, but it does shed some light on things. I personally love Aliens because it did something different enough from Alien while still respecting what was established in Ridley's film. That is why both films are so fun to watch back to back. If Aliens was just a rote remake of Alien, it would have not only tainted the original a bit, but would have been kinda boring and probably would not be so well liked all these years later. Back to the aesthetics thing though... an interesting little thought experiment would be, what if Ridley Scott had directed Aliens from James Cameron's script? Same script, with the marines and colony on Acheron and everything, just through the lens of Ridley Scott and the same team that designed everything for Alien.. I wonder if that would have been the best of both I could see Ridley keeping things like the terraforming angle, but maybe bringing back some of the harshness of the environment. For example, I've always thought a good midground between the toxic environment of Acheron in Alien, and Cameron's breathable atmosphere would have been the need for the colonists and marines to wear some sort of breathing apparatus. So while they are terraforming the planet, maybe the air is still a bit nasty and needs to be filtered, but at the same time there is no need for a full space suit when going outside. I could see the overall story and character development staying the same, but some of the worldbuilding and little details would have been tweaked a bit by Ridley Scott had he directed Aliens. Of course, a Ridley Scott Aliens would have been shot in 2.35:1 anamorphic over Cameron's preference at the time for 1.85:1. Also, Ridley would have kept the domed alien head from his film. I bet he'd also have gotten Giger to design the alien queen. Anyways, just an interesting what-if to ponder. As for the CGI Jabba the Hutt from the updated Star Wars, we can completely agree on that blunder. God damn do I hate that addition to A New Hope. It really does ruin the payoff of getting to see the excellent Jabba done with practical in-camera puppeteering wizardry in the opening act of Return of the Jedi.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Prometheus = FASSSSSSSSSBENDAAAAAAH!

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    And I still believe in Harvey Dent.

  • but now that you've broken it down into little spaced out fragments I totally get it. Totally. I'm right there with you bro

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Getting the impression now that this could also be

    by alexander

    Ridleys Disaster-Horror-in-Space Movie, which would be just fine by me. That's probably a bit hasty, and I wish I had more to say, but with a typically dodgy wi-fi connection, and the trailer on thursday, well...

  • And I'm a huge fan of the Duelists. Visually i expect this film to be stunning. It will all come down to the script methinks.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Aliens sucks=Fucking Idiot

    by thedoctor28

    Its a great movie WTF???!!! LV-426 is my new hero...

  • Aliens is one of the best action films of all time. We all know that. BUT. It is ALSO one of the best FILMS with unbelievably well written characters. All of them are memorable. That is amazingly difficult to do with an action film of Aliens scope. I would argue that Newt,Bishop,Hicks,Hudson,Burke,and Vasquez were more memorably written than Rid's ALIEN crew with the exception of Parker and Ripley.And I LOVE the characters in ALIEN. They are both masterpieces with the same subject,different genre and I love them each for different reasons. Both films work in the same Universe. It ends with Alien3 with me though. Too much to ask of the audience to just shrug off the killing of Newt and Hicks.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    why are there humans in this? wasn't the Space Jokey an alien?

    by chien_sale

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance

    by lv_426

    "YOU HAVE TO ADMIT - It was FOX that called Cameron after seeing Terminator and asked for Aliens. It wasn't like it "came from James". It didn't. A studio called him and he got hired so he came up with shit, not because it was natural stuff he came up with, but because he was "hired" to come up with it." Actually, James Cameron based a lot of his Aliens treatment on a spec script of his called 'Mother', that in the Alien Quadrilogy/Anthology bts materials he states was very much inspired by the original Alien. Another thing I don't agree with is your notion of Cameron being some sort of studio approved hack who only cared about money as the reason he took on the task of making Aliens. Cameron was a big Alien fan, and he put a shitload of blood, sweat, and tears into Aliens. It is fine if you don't like Aliens, but to call James Cameron a worthless hack for making Aliens is pretty damn off. I don't agree with a lot of what went down in Alien 3, but I don't think Fincher was a hack for making that film. "He didn't involve any of the original people. HOW CAN YO NOT INVOLVE GIGER?" Giger was already contractually obligated to work on Poltergeist II before he was asked to work on Aliens. Both Cameron and Giger would have liked to have had some new Giger designs incorporated into Aliens. Unfortunately, it just wasn't meant to be. Also, both Ridley Scott and H.R. Giger have stated that they liked what Cameron did with the alien life cycle by expanding upon it with his queen idea. Giger also praised the alien queen design. Sure it might not have been exactly what he would have done, but he did say that he liked it and that the scenes with Ripley facing the alien queen were his favorite parts of Aliens. As for other people who worked on Alien, Producers Gordon Carroll, David Giler, and Walter Hill were involved, as they had been up until before AvP I think, or maybe Resurrection. Ron Cobb came back to design a lot of the technical stuff just as he did on Alien. Similarly to how Ridley had Ron Cobb working with Mobieus, Cameron had Ron Cobb working with Syd Meade to design things like the atmosphere processor, the colony, the Sulaco, APC, dropship, weapons, etc. Syd Meade ain't no slouch in the futuristic conceptual design dept. either, as is evident from his work on Tron and Blade Runner. Also, Ridley Scott not being involved with Aliens was not Cameron's fault. Brandywine and 20th Century Fox didn't ask Ridley about coming back to do another Alien film. I don't know why, but as I said in a previous post, it seems surprising that they didn't ask Ridley to come and at least take a look at Cameron's script before they decided to keep the director's chair open for Cameron after he finished The Terminator.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance, you twat.

    by DocPazuzu

    Again with the contradictions. You emphasize Scott's fingerprints as being essential to Alien's very fabric, yet silently dismiss Irvin Kershner's input as director of ESB by stating that it was basically the whole team from ANH working on that movie and that George Lucas was "overseeing" the project. If you were consistent in your argument and had the courage of your convictions you'd admit that ESB in many ways is as different from ANH as Aliens is from Alien. Only a complete cretin couldn't detect how vastly the tone and texture in ESB differ from ANH.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST

    3rd preview is up.

    by I Hope You Die

    On the Apple site. Full trailer tomorrow!

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST

    One... more... day............

    by Teddy Artery

    Blammo!

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    I concur

    by Scrawny_Beaver

    Everything we're seeing looks like the leaked synopsis. by i hope you die

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    I strongly suspect that it isn't a total fake.

    by Scrawny_Beaver

    I fucking hope that leaked bioformer script is a fake by wookie_weed

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    (sub)mental, you are winning. Must feel awesome.

    by P

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Okay, I know I'm going to get in trouble here, but...

    by Keith

    ...James Cameron made a much better sequel to someone else's movie ("Aliens", rock-solid) than he did with his own ("T2", which is, in my opinion, a poor sequel to a geneuinely brilliant movie). I don't love "Aliens" in the same way I love "Alien", but as sequels go, it's very good. And I LIKE the fact that it's a different beast. Yes, it has a slightly different aesthetic, and the quality of workmanship isn't as high, but it's rollicking good fun, and I don't think it pisses over anything in the original. With the one caveat that each xenomorph in it feels like a minor threat rather than a HUGE threat, although that's the circumstances as much as anything. (If the Nostromo crew had been trained soldiers with state of the art weaponry, would the alien have been the deadly threat that it was?)

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    My predictions for Prometheus

    by Keith

    I'm hoping for the best, but I'm preparing for disappointment.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST

    What we know so far

    by Adam Moore

    I've looked at all 3 trailers in slow mo. I can see the derelict (or another ship of similar design) crash landing (after the leaked trailer showed it being hit by something in the atmosphere). I can see acid burning into a mask. I can see someone looking like the husks from Mass Effect (a human with a mutated face). Possibly the same guy attacking people leaping through the air. I must say, so far the trailers fit the leaked (fan made) synopsis almost perfectly.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    It does look a lot like the supposed "leaked synopsis"

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    but that was proven to be fake, taken from some guy that posted it on the Prometheus message board at IMDB.com as fan fiction.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance: re: "Aliens isn't Alien"

    by Jake Pantlin

    No shit. Aliens is a sequel. It is also considered to be one of the best sequels of all time. You say you have nothing against Cameron, but then you turn around and call him a whore and a worthless fuck. Gee, that sounds like hate to me. Dude, get over yourself. Just because you don't like Aliens doesn't mean everyone else is going to start drinking the same kool-aid as you. The Universe is big enough for both of those films to happily co-exist.

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    another copy of the full trailer

    by Cruzboy

    http://tinyurl.com/7xk4zvo looks insane!!

  • Dec. 21, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    shite! wrong link

    by Cruzboy

    this one http://vimeo.com/34025136

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 12:35 a.m. CST

    by TheDesolateOne

    <p>Earth. The beginnings of our world. In an opening montage, we watch as our primordial planet is terraformed and bioformed by seemingly all-powerful, Godlike alien entities…the ENGINEERS. The seeds of life are introduced to Earth for the first time by these fantastic extra-terrestrials, who have the power to create and manipulate both mechanical and biological matter at will. The montage ends as the earliest genetic recipe for life is sent forth from the Engineers’ massive, towering CITADEL in the dark desert. The desolate desert of Africa: 2085. The prehistoric ruins of the Engineers’ Citadel are discovered by a corporate construction team tasked with building a nuclear-powered comm-array in the wilderness. Amidst the ancient remains are found highly advanced, biomechanical relics with are determined to be of extra-terrestrial origin. This catches the attention of the mega-conglomerate WEYLAND-YUTANI CORPOTATION, who finances a massive archaeological excavation of the citadel in the hopes of reverse-engineering the alien biotech for financial gain.<p> <p>Running the operation is MEREDITH VICKERS, a cold, calculating corporate executive, who recruits intelligent and independent astrophysicist DR. ELIZABETH SHAW to head up the research team. Assisting Dr. Shaw are xenoarchaeologist DR. THEO ZEDMORE and her fellow astrophysicist DR. LOGAN. Shaw uncovers the secret of the citadel when she discovers a chamber of star charts, which seem to lead the way to the home planet of the Engineers. Also uncovered is evidence suggesting that the Engineers had a database of all life on Earth, and may even have been responsible for all of its creation - including Man. In a partially-submerged MANHATTAN, Vickers meets with Dr. Shaw and an OPO, (Off-Planet-Officer), CAPTAIN JERAMIAH JANEK, and plans a space mission following the discovered star charts in an effort to find and make first contact with the Engineers. For the scientists and explorers onboard, it will be a journey of discovery, but for Vickers, it’s merely a way of obtaining new technology so that Weyland-Yutani may retain the lead in the competitive race to establish colonies off-world.<p> <p>The depths of space: 2090. A highly-advanced, top-of-the-line ISRV (Interstellar Research Vessel) PROMETHEUS decelerates as it reaches its target solar system. The vessel’s crew emerges from their cryo-chambers. Along with Elizabeth Shaw, Theo Zedmore, Logan, Meredith Vickers, and Captain Janek, the crew of the Prometheus is comprised of: First Officer MUDOW, Security Officer RAYDEN HOLLOWAY, Navigator CHANCE, Helm Officer RAVEL, Operations Android DAVID 4.0, Political Officer ALDRICH, Medical Officer FRANCIS, Engineer YURI, and Technical Officers SIENA, LETTUP, and TEMBROOK. The crew gets acclimated to their removal from cryo-sleep, their muscles in atrophy from five years without use. Holloway assists Shaw in her physical therapy exercises. They prepares for arrival at the home planet of the Engineers. Shaw and Holloway are instantly attracted to each other, initiating a romantic relationship. However, as they enter the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, Prometheus encounters a massive disturbance which hadn’t appeared on scanners, one even more powerful than a black hole: a wormhole in space.<p> <p>Prometheus is sucked into the wormhole, and after a harrowing ride, emerges on the other end. The ship crashes on a barren planet, which the damaged computer system identifies as the mission’s final destination. The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw’s team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis. Investigating the urns, David discovers that they contain the genetic material for thousands of species within a viscous liquid called BIOFORMER which can rewrite any living organism on a cellular level. Basically, possession of the substance gives its owner the power to create life. Vickers interacts with David and seemingly innocently leads to the Bioformer infecting David through a cut in his finger.<p> <p>Within the depths of the Temple, we find several living Engineers who discover the transgression of the Humans, and remotely rewrite the stolen Bioformer to make it into a weapon. The Engineers capture Holloway and run a number of horrific experiments on him, injecting him with the Bioformer and allowing him to return to the vessel. Subsequently, the crew of the Prometheus begins to fall victim to the now weaponized substance, as the “carrier” Holloway injects Ravel, Zedmore, Francis, Siena, Lettup, and Tembrook. The victims begin to lose their humanity and slowly transform, experiencing nightmarish visions and hallucinations and making pilgrimages to the depths of the Temple to receive instructions from the Bio-Brain. Holloway, in particular, is resistant to the transformation, fighting against the alien influence with his feelings for Shaw and his responsibilities as security officer. Meanwhile, David finds that the Bioformer is making him into a biological being…making him Human. The crew also finds that their trip through the wormhole took them back hundreds of millions of years and they are actually stranded on primordial Earth, having moved through space and time.<p> <p>Eventually, as alien influence and the continued lurking presence of the Engineers becomes clear, the crew of the Prometheus turns on each other as the infected human victims fully mutate into PROTOFORMS: vicious, skeletal alien monstrosities which proceed to assault the unaffected Human crew through the halls of the Prometheus. Mudow, Logan, Chance, Aldrich, Yuri, and Janek end up being destroyed by the Protoforms. In a strange, erotic ceremony, the Protoforms seemingly mate with the Bio-Brain and each other to create thousands of EGGS, the first of a new generation of the monsters. Meredith Vickers is revealed to be a sleeper CONSTRUCT of the Engineers, who are still active in their far future and Shaw’s present due to the time-travelling abilities of the wormhole. Vickers was grown in an Engineer lab but escaped, fleeing to Earth while always wanting to her find creators and take their power. The Engineers activate Vickers’ secondary GENE PROGRAMMING, and she transforms into an ALPHA PROTOFORM: the STAR BEAST.<p> <p>At last, the two remaining crew members, Elizabeth Shaw and David, seek to confront the Engineers in the Temple. The Godlike entities prove to be utterly evil, and David sacrifices himself as he’s dissolved in the LIFE SEED BIOFORMER which is the basic genetic recipe for MAN: the former android David, it turns out, is the basis for all Mankind. Shaw is captured by Holloway, but he regains enough of his humanity to remotely activate an Engineer vessel for Shaw’s escape, then holds the other Protoforms and Engineers at bay. As Shaw escapes, she finds herself in the midst of the initial Engineer terraforming of Earth which we had witnessed in the opening montage, chased by the former Meredith Vickers who is now the gigantic, horrific Star Beast.<p> <p>Shaw makes to her escape vessel which blasts off for the wormhole, Holloway fighting the Star Beast with both falling into the wormhole and disappearing. An Engineer PILOT detaches from the Temple in a FAMILIAR VESSEL and follows Shaw, but is lost in the wormhole. Shaw emerges above the Earth of her present day; however, she’s deemed insane and responsible for the loss of her expedition and confined to a psychiatric hospital by the Company. It’s implied that there are at least some of those who believe Shaw’s tale, but have silenced her as part of a cover-up. In the final scene, we see the vessel of the Engineer that was chasing Elizabeth Shaw emerge from the wormhole in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, still in the prehistoric past, and crash on a nearby planetoid, the Engineer Pilot helplessly lost and the EGGS in the ship’s cargo hold stirring as something alive moves from within…<p> <p>The Beginning?<p>

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 2:15 a.m. CST

    mentalmidgetness

    by DocPazuzu

    '' All ALIEN fan boys want is for what was stolen from us to be returned. '' Now your true colors are beginning to show. What a fucking crybaby. How in the world can Cameron's film lessen your enjoyment of Alien simply by existing? You do realize that people like me, who consider Scott's film to be be superior, yet love both equally, lead far more rewarding lives than you since we can accomodate both films in our universe, don't you? Film theory pseuds like you are a dime a dozen and as tedious and obnoxius as they are myopic. Grow the fuck up.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 2:24 a.m. CST

    It looks like Event Horizon

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    but with polished off Alien sets.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Hilarious:

    by DocPazuzu

    mentaldominance in post number 1: '' Geeze can you actually NOT add words to what I say? .... I didn't call Cameron a worthless hack.... Etc. '' mentaldominance in the immediately following post: '' Cameron is a worthless whore .... You greedy fuck. All Cameron makes movies for is to make a buck. That's the last reason a real artist does it. '' What a fucking tool.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Origin of the fake plot synopsis:

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/nest/186534938?p=1

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Thanks, pussy juice!

    by I Hope You Die

    I guess there just must have been a lot of correct information circulating that was incorporated into the fake synopsis. From what Scott has said in interviews this is definitely about how life on Earth was engineered and supposedly involves scenes of primordial Earth. There are clearly people who have been somehow transformed in the trailer previews too. Hopefully there's no time travel involved though.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Like Alien wasnt a rip off in itself

    by thedoctor28

    Hey "Mental" check these out It-Came from Outer Space and Planet of the Vampires Try and tell us Ridley never saw these movies. Alien is basically these two movies combined with some better FX, acting, and directing. How could Ridley do that??!! Rip off these ideas??? What a hack POS Asshole right??!! Wrong - just like you are about your whole argument. Cameron is one of the BEST out there, FACT! He bumped it up a notch with Aliens just like we all wanted. I remember seeing the first trailer on TV for it and was like "oh yeah baby here we go, more than one with space Marines, fukin A!!!" Try and tell me 99%of the people didnt think the same thing. You HATE Aliens, fine. You HATE Cameron, fine, or he is a whore or whatever in your next post. Here is another FACT. Aliens is a more "fun" movie to watch. I would have never thought that someone could love Alien but HATE Aliens. Fuked up man.... Ok bring on the HATE !!!

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Trailer released!!!!!

    by rhizomeman

    http://collider.com/prometheus-movie-trailer/123981/#more-123981

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    dahveed1972

    by AsimovLives

    count me too as a fan of THE DUELISTS. That movie is the personification of underrated. How i love that movie! It does boggles the mind that Scott went from making a movie like THE DUELISTS to ALIEN. The people who hired him sure took a risk, because from THE DUALISTS he woudn't be the "lgical" choice for such a movie as ALIEN, would he? But it worked out brillantly. And that's one of the reasons why i'm always interested in seeing a director who never worked on Sf before making his first Sf movie. Usually, specially if they are talented, they bring something unique to the genre. As Scot did with ALIEN... and BLADE RUNNER. hopefully, to PROMETHEUS as well.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    cureguy

    by AsimovLives

    there are more characters in ALIENS then just Newt,Bishop,Hicks,Hudson,Burke,and Vasquez. the first squadies to die, for example, they are all cyphers, with character development only made for the survivors of the first contact with the aliens. all the characters in ALIEN are memorable. including the ship itself, which is a character on it's own.

  • Dec. 22, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    misterdarcy

    by AsimovLives

    If the Nostromo crew had been trained soldiers with state of the art weaponry, would the alien have been the deadly threat that it was?

  • In fact, the action is the minority of what happens in the movie. In both versions of the movie, the actionh stuff is about 45 minutes of screentime (and that is including the breaks from the action). The rest of the mopvie, that majority of the movie's screentime is devoted to building suspense and a sense of dread, and to characterization. I think that eople calling ALIENS a rollercoaster is actually a disservice and an insult to the movie. ALIENS is a bit more then that. Quite a bit more.

  • ... ALIENS deviates from ALIEN so much, in his view, that it feels like a different movie from a diffent fictional universe althogether. If that's what he is trying to say, i think there is some to it. Which seems the filmmakers of ALIENS were quite aware of, which might be why the movie is set 53 years in the future, to justify the differences in style, design and mood. Still, the influences of ALIEN can be found. If oe looks closely, and despite the plot differences, the moie ALIENS follows the story beats of ALIEN quite closely. Which is quite funn, because ALIEN itself follows the story beats of THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE, which Ridley Scott claims as the movie's major influence, so much so he actually went to a show of TEXAS to educate himself on how to make a scary movie. Smart guy!