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Neil Marshall May Go To HELLFEST!

Nordling here.

I'm a big Neil Marshall fan.  There's something about his movies that I take to - they're undeniably pulp but they're GREAT pulp and he doesn't repeat himself.  I think DOG SOLDIERS is a wonderful werewolf movie, and THE DESCENT is great - when I first saw it at BNAT my best friend screamed and freaked out at the final shot, so invested in the movie was he - and CENTURION was a great meat-and-potatoes Roman legion movie.  Loved it.

Now, Marshall is in talks to direct HELLFEST for CBS Films.  HELLFEST deals with a serial killer who goes after people going to an amusement park on Halloween night.  That sounds straight-up early Carpenter if you ask me, and Neil Marshall definitely comes from that school of filmmaking.  I hope he signs on because we need another great slasher franchise,

Nordling, out.

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  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Still havent watched a Marshall film..

    by BookhouseBoy

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Oh and..

    by BookhouseBoy

    ...BITCHES LEAVE!!!!

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    What about Doomsday?

    by SoylentMean

    That's some pretty Carpenter-ish filmmaking right there. I thought it was fun. I'm gonna guess that when this film gets made it will not get released anywhere near October. We wouldn't want a Horror movie hitting theaters in October, now would we?

  • Still one of my favorite movies to re-watch on a rainy day. A super sexy Rhona Mitra representation of Snake Plissken doesn't hurt either.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Doomsday sucked

    by BigTuna

    It was a big bore. We've seen that film over and over.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Marshall is solid

    by cocolopez

    Doomsday was my favorite of his- and really looking forward to his upcoming Game of Thrones episode. They gave him the best part of the second season to direct.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Marshall hasn't made a bad movie yet

    by slone13

    Highly entertaining director

  • Plus he's strung together some absolutely balls out work with solid, fantastic films like Doomsday, Centurion and Dog Soldiers. I will see whatever this guy puts out right now and I will probably love it.

  • It probably is. I'm just about the biggest Carpenter fan I know. "Halloween" is my favorite film of all time, and his run of films with Russell in the 80s boast some of my favorite flicks ever. So I'm not treading lightly when I make the comparison. But think about it. "Dog Soldiers," a grimy twist on a genre staple--the werewolf--making it into a survival horror of peer-against-peer. Very akin to "The Thing." "The Descent" is clearly Marshall's crowning achievement; one of the best horror films of the last decade. It is not a huge stretch to favorably compare it to "Assault on Precinct 13," or even a bit of "The Fog." "Doomsday" is such a clear, blatant ode to "Escape from New York"(as well as the Mad Max films) that it doesn't even require mention. As for "Centurion," I found it to be an awesomely brutal bit of business and a beautiful precursor to his presumably brilliant work on the forthcoming 2nd season of "Game of Thrones." (Liam Cunningham as the fucking Onion Knight... YES!!!) So if you're telling me that this "Hellfast" could be Marshall's "Halloween," then consider me all in.

  • He is a genre filmmaker that deserves the accolades. Now, cue a bitter TBer who will shit all over his entire resume. Its only a matter of time.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    His films are ok at best

    by Jaster Mareel

    I bought Dog Soldiers on Blu-ray the day it came out, just because I'm a werewolf nut...I still haven't watched it and frankly am in no hurry. I know what he was going for, but he fucked up by making every single character a bad stereotype and fucking chatterbox. And the werewolves are naked guys with wolf heads. I mean, come the fuck on! Doomsday was just total shit and you all know it. Instantly forgettable because it didn't have an original moment in it. The one intrigueing character that WAS the entire advertising campaign, is in the movie for about 2 minutes before getting killed. The Descent is cheesy bullshit. Batboy: The Movie, with their little fur loinclothes. So many ridiculous moments and glaring plotholes in that film. Sometimes they react to light, sometimes they don't. They have super-hearing and super-smell, except when they are crawling 2 inches from a whimpering bitch. And Descent 2 was so fucking stupid I can't stand it.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Love all things MARSHALL....

    by KHjLL

    If he doesn't do HELLFEST maybe hell consider EL DIABLO... A ZOMBIE SLASHER....

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    The guy made the best Werewolf film since American Werewolf.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Gotta say I wasnt keen on Doomsday but it was watchable. Everything else from him has been awesome though - Dog Soldiers is still his masterpiece. What a fantastic, fantastic film. I think it's a bit much to call him a modern Carpenter - he's his own person for sure, comparing him to JC isn't right. What he is, is a terrific genre director who puts out quality films. very cool director.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST

    kammich, WTF? dude, Marshall is a horrible director

    by lv_426

    Just kidding. I freaking love Neil Marshall's films. All of them in fact. Even the much maligned Doomsday. Suck it Doomsday haters, that film is great. So what if it is a Carpenter-esque mash-up/homage of EFNY, The Road Warrior, and medieval badassery, complete with a cool synth-based Carpenter style score? Oh, and Doomsday was a lot better than the "official" sequel to EFNY, which was the dismal Escape From L.A. As far as I am concerned, the only director now capable of making a proper Escape From sequel, would be Neil Marshall. Just get Kurt Russell back as an older, more grumpy and grizzled Snake Plissken, with John Carpenter producing. No remake or reboot bullshit, but a proper sequel. Escape From Earth, or Escape From the USA or something along those lines could work. It is a shame that director's like Michael Bay keep on getting gigantic budgets to make crap for the masses while someone like Neil Marshall continues to manage to scrape together some great genre flicks with much less funds, resources, and industry support.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Wow, this sounds like an original idea.

    by Captain Happy

    I love John Carpenter, but horror filmmakers need to be injecting the genre with fresh ideas, not ideas that were fresh 30 years ago.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    wrath_of_fett, I agree Descent part 2 was crap but...

    by lv_426

    Neil Marshall had little to do with The Descent part 2. Executive producer is all he is listed as having been involved in the sequel. Also, how can you know if Dog Soldiers is good or not if you haven't watched it. The werewolves actually look great in it because of the way he shot it. Quick cuts, silhouettes, werewolves in shadow, lots of suggestive shots of the beasts, etc. Not unlike Jaws and Alien/Aliens where you don't see the creature for too long and in too much light. Sure that was probably partly due to Dog Soldiers being a low budget production, but it works effectively in the film. As for Doomsday, I love it, but I can understand why some might not like it. It helps that I am a massive fan of Escape From New York, The Road Warrior, and Excalibur, which are three of the primary films that Marshall said he was riffing on and doing an homage of with Doomsday. I take it you haven't seen Centurion yet, but you should give it a chance. It is the most serious and realistic film Marshall has done.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST


    by lv_426

    I think it's a bit much to call him a modern Carpenter - he's his own person for sure, comparing him to JC isn't right. What he is, is a terrific genre director who puts out quality films. very cool director.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST

    hint_of_smegma... let's try this one again

    by lv_426

    =I think it's a bit much to call him a modern Carpenter - he's his own person for sure, comparing him to JC isn't right. What he is, is a terrific genre director who puts out quality films. very cool director.= Well, said. I agree. --------------------------- Also, watch out, the quotations bug is back in the talkbacks.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I saw Dog Soldiers when it was first made

    by Jaster Mareel

    I thought it was mildly ok. I bought the BD because I was going to give it a second chance. I'm a MASSIVE fan of Excalibut, Road Warrior and EFNY, I just take no pleasure in seeing crappy ripoffs of them smashed together nonsensically. You forgot Damnation Alley by the way. I haven't seen Centurian because it stars that douche from GI Joe.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:13 p.m. CST

    I loved Doomsday as well

    by Kammich

    It seems to be an inherent problem with modern fandom that there can no longer be "homages." Everything is simply a "rip-off" now. "Doomsday" was an homage, dammit. Not a fucking rip-off. I'm 22 years old, and my father was the forefront of the films I grew up watching. He is a man who will list his favorite films as being "American Werewolf in London," "Jaws," and "Escape from New York." 98% of the badass movies I saw prior to the age of 16 were due to my father. And you know what? I made him watch "Doomsday" when it came out, and when the end credit began to roll, he sat there slack-jawed and said, "Finally! This is the type of movie I've been waiting for, for 20 years!" Some of you call it un-original? I call it a tasteful, well-done homage. "The Descent" will always be my favorite Marshall film, but "Doomsday" is close behind it.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST


    by Kammich

    I think you may be thinking of "The Eagle," which starred Channing Tatum(also known as 'THE CHAN TATS'). "Centurion" is a brutal, badass film starring Michael mf'n Fassbender, Liam Cunningham, and the gorgeous duo of Olga Kurylenko and Imogen Poots.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I saw Dog Soldiers and I thought it was an awesome werewolf flick.

    by Ted Knight

    You get to actually see the monsters and they aren't CGI cartoons. I didn't get the deal with the girl though. Was she trying to help them or feed them to the werewolves? *warning, entering possible spoiler territory*

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Fassbender's in it? OH SNAP!

    by Jaster Mareel

    Definitely going to watch then. That guy is total star material. He fucking blew me away in X-Men!

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Stargrove - enlightenment has arrived.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    As I recall Marshall himself explained her motivations, I just can't recall where. Initially she is indeed trying to help, she sees them as her only chance of a way out and a possible way to get out of her hellish situation, maybe even find a cure once away from the werewolves that took her in. But as the night goes on and the chances of them getting away start going down her own sense of self preservation kicks in, especially as her urge to turn gets stronger through the night. So she stitches them up, does an Italian Army, switches to the winning side.....and then gets shot. If you watch the kitchen scene with Spoon, one of the wolves has a wound on it's head in the same place of where she got shot - indicating that is is indeed only silver that enables them to be put down for good.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    hint_of_smegma I see...

    by Ted Knight

    So she needed to exhaust them, and all their ammo, as she knew they wouldn't be easy prey. So she pretended to help them whilst allowing her 'adopted family' to enjoy the hunt, planning all along to eventually let the wolves in through the cellar. She was merely waiting for the final outcome, i.e., who would ultimately win. When she saw that the soldiers were losing, she determined to remain. Also, I suppose she thought if she lured in soldiers, special ops and others, they'd at least have a fighting chance, and she could be rescued, perhaps to go back to civilization and seek a cure for herself. In the end, she realized it was hopeless and resolved to stay put and accept what she'd become. You are a helpful sumbitch hint_of_smegma *raises toast*

  • ...p.s. look for one of the creepiest lines in recent memory: "Don't... stare... back."

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST


    by josh hubanks

    doomsday was a total letdown, but marshall's got so much unabashedly fun stuff under his belt there's no way i'll hold it against him. as for hellfest, it sounds awesome. i'm pumped. and dog soldiers? fuck yes.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    captain happy

    by lv_426

    =I love John Carpenter, but horror filmmakers need to be injecting the genre with fresh ideas, not ideas that were fresh 30 years ago.= You do have a point there. Personally, I am not a huge fan of slasher horror films. The original Halloween being one of the rare ones I do like a lot. I think this Hellfest one could be interesting mainly due to the amusement park setting, and the fact that Neil Marshall is involved. Maybe they should take away the -it's happening on Halloween- aspect from the concept so it doesn't feel too much like John Carpenter's classic Halloween?

  • And fuck me. It just occurred to me, thinking of how awesome Centurion was, and being reminded of Excalibur and those great early 80's fantasy films (Excalibur, Legend, Conan the Barbarian, Dragonslayer). Then seeing kammich mention that Marshall will be directing some Game of Thrones season 2 (great to hear that news). Then I got to thinking about the recently shitty Conan the Barbarian remake, and what a shame that someone like Neil Marshall didn't get to make that instead of whoever did the recent remake? Seriously, just watch Centurion and tell me Neil Marshall isn't suited to direct a proper R-rated Conan film. I dare ya!

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 1:46 a.m. CST

    He made two great movie he is still trying to make up for the rest

    by chien_sale

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Only thing that disappoints me about Marshall

    by cushing1967

    Is the fact that he hasn't made 'The Eagle's Nest' yet - his homage to Raiders and Die Hard by way of John Buchan which sounds absolutely fucking brilliant. Oh, and I still want him to make his medieval heist movie and I want him to make his Lovecraftian horror Western. So, Hellfest, not so interested in because his other ideas sound so brilliant!

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    cushing1967, The Eagle's Nest

    by lv_426

    Is that the World War II action/adventure film he was going to make? Makes me think of the Clint Eastwood one Where Eagles Dare. Damn, that's another good one I haven't seen in a long time. If Marshall were to make a WWII film along those lines, I'd be all for it.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 2:42 a.m. CST


    by cushing1967

    Indeed - it's about a gamekeeper who finds that the Scottish Castle he works for has been infested by Nazi's and the family held hostage (from what I remember) and Marshall does state that Where Eagles Dare and The Eagle Has Landed are both influences as much as Die Hard and Remains of the Day. It sounds exactly like the kind of film that I was built to see.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Hellfest sounds lame

    by Cobb05

    I've actually seen all of Marshall's films and I don't think he's a bad director. He's not a great writer though. But this idea sounds more like a stright to DVD movie. I just don't see any originallity in this idea. I don't know what can be done with it to really make you want to see it. I'll still probably watch it, but it's not a movie I would be counting down the days to see.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Marshall has earned his credits

    by alpha

    Dog Soldiers and Descent were made ultra cheaply and made good use of their limited budgets. He also got great casts McKidd, Pertwee and Natalie Mendoza all elevated those 2 films above B grade with some subtle work. Doomsday was a little bit of a misfire. I could see where he was going but it never quite worked the way he clearly intended it too. Centurion kicked ass in a way the Hollywood version the Eagle never did. No means perfect but certainly good. I agree with the Carpenter comparison in that he's certainly got a good eye and a willingness to go in a different direction than a lot of other directors would go but he's definitly his own man. I'd like to see him go all out on a slasher flick just to see what he'd do with it.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I dunno about a new Carpenter but he's pretty darn good

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    Dog Soldiers is hardcore. It doesn't stand up too well to multiple viewings logic-wise yet it still resonates. The Descent was near perfect. It was the first horror film in a loooong time(Probably since the Sixth Sense on acid and before that The Exorcist 3) to actually scare me. Doomsday was all types of fun. I laughed a lot in that film. Centurion was some solid awesomeness that pissed fire and shat skulls. Old Carpenter however is one of the Chosen Ones. A true cinema legend. Marshall still has a way to go.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Yeah, The Descent has some plot holes...

    by Nice Marmot

    ....but I still love it to death.... STILL haven't seen anything he's directed since. Gotta get on that...

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Hoped it was about THE Hellfest

    by Shpadoinkle

    The metal festival in Clisson in France. Some of the best times of my life were spent travelling over to that and seeing Meshuggah, Clutch and Ministry and the likes. This sounds like it might be a bit like Tobe Hooper's Funhouse (which is no bad thing) and I really like Neil Marshall's work so far. As far as genre filmaking goes he really gets it.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    It sounds like early Carpenter?

    by emteem

    I'd say it sounds more like early Hooper as Tobe Hooper actually made a slasher movie set at an amusement park.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Marshall is a very fun director and I can't wait

    by Rob Jenson

    for him to return to horror. Dog Soldiers was probably his best (at least, for me). I saw The Descent at Butt-Numb-A-Thon at two in the morning or something I was pretty much asleep at the time, so I can't judge that one. I wanted Doomsday to kick ass, and it did, but I can't help feel the final act was rushed and didn't really wrap the story up very well. That said, I really enjoy Doomsday but think if it had nailed the last third it would've gone down as a classic. Would love to see a fanedit that somehow, magically fixed the ending, but I doubt the materal is there (deleted scenes, I mean) to make a fanedit with. Anyway, I do love Marshall and wish he would make a movie a year like Woody Allen. Rock on, pulp fiction!

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST


    by spacehog

    There, I just made the movie a million times better. The kids investigate ice cream ghosts and get stuck in the cotton candy machine, completely oblivious to the actual murderer picking them off one by one. Actually I just hope the amusement park setting doesn't mean the killer murders people via the rides—razor wire at neck level on the roller coaster and hokey stuff like that. Loosening the machinery of the Tilt-a-Whirl so the big saucers go flinging out into space...shit, I just sold myself on this. Thread is now about creative ways to kill people via amusement park rides. Go.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Not sure if Dog Soldiers is a better film than Ginger Snaps

    by alan_poon

    It's close though.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    What wrath_of_fett isn't mentioning...

    by DocPazuzu that in his original reaction to Dog Soldiers (which he posted here years ago under the name fettastic) was that he thought it was ''too British'' and that aside from talking too much, the characters spent too much time making tea. The man has serious, serious issues with any movie which doesn't follow the standard Hoolywood formula. Any movie in which characters aren't American (or don't act like Americans), don't speak English (or that weird non-American English), and the rules of the film don't fall into prepackaged form -- he will automatically hate it. This is the guy who made a huge stink because he didn't understand the title ''Attack the Block''.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    ...and cocolopez speaks the truth.

    by DocPazuzu

    Marshall is great. Doomsday is an enormously entertaining mash-up of all those late-night, post-pub, early-to-mid-80's VHS rentals you used to love watching with your buds while drunk. It's not meant to be taken seriously.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    they're forgetting something...

    by Bouncy X

    just read the sypnosis for this on another site and they added that its some sorta show so people have no clue people are really being murdered. not sure how big a plot point that'll be but least its something a little different.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Why doesn't Neil Marshall do remakes/reboots?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    He's basically doing them already.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Neil Marshall is like compressed Brian DePalma

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Steals other people's styles. But does it VERY well. But now every movie seems like it's worse than the previous and we're just hoping he has one Carlito's Way left in him. When he directs Nic Cage, you know he'll be done.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I do love Neil Marshall, but...

    by Jon Forbing

    I just can't agree with the other Marshall fans about "Doomsday". That movie was a turd. And it has nothing to do with any issue of originality or anything like that, it's just not well done. It had an amazing concept, and it started well, and then it just went off the rails (in a bad way) trying to pack about five different movie ideas together and not doing any of them especially well. And honestly, other differences of opinion aside, I dare anyone to defend the scene where Rhona Mitra finds a gassed-up, unblemished, already running (?) Bentley just sitting in a crate, before putting on sunglasses and saying "Nice color, I think I'll take it!" I spent days raving to a friend about how awesome Neil Marshall was, and how he was "the most exciting new director I've seen in years", and then made the mistake of taking him to see "Doomsday". Needless to say, it was YEARS before he gave any of his other movies a chance.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by GQSioux

    I like all his films, but I can see why Doomsday is getting mixed opinions. I thought it was just ok, but overall, Marshall has not made a terrible film. Can't wait to see his Game of Thrones episode either. I think he'd be a great director for Thor 2.

  • Dec. 9, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST


    by johnnyrandom rip into Dog Soldiers but sing the praises of the shitfest that was X-Men: The Dawson's Creek Years and Fassbender's shit-awful wandering accent? Even as a big fand of both Matthew Vaughan and Jane Goldman, that film was rank! Your taste's all in your mouth, son.

  • Dec. 10, 2011, 2:17 a.m. CST

    I saw Doomsday while on mushrooms one night...

    by Xenodistortion

    and even though I was heavily HEAVILY tripping, I could see how bad that flick was. And I'm one of those guys who could enjoy the hell out of anything while totally whacked out on stuff like that. I didn't think of Doomsday as a movie paying tribute to the crazy 80's movies I grew up watching.

  • Dec. 10, 2011, 2:28 a.m. CST

    More like...

    by Xenodistortion

    "Hey, let's to the Mad Max part of the movie" and "now lets do the Excalibur scene". It just didn't feel well written and clever enough to segue into such contrasting settings. The thing is, I really really want to like the guys movies. He's totally got directing chops. But every single one of his movies just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. There's always one plot point or one series of events or a character that ruins it for me. I hate that. I really do want to like his movies. They're always right up my alley as far as subject matter goes. But you know, if I want Road Warrior or Escape From New York I guess I'll watch Road Warrior or Escape From New York I thought Dog Soldiers was brilliant up until the very end. The newspaper article thing when the credits were happening just killed it for me. Took away whatever seriousness the movie had in my opinion. It's frustrating. Whatever, I'll shut up now.

  • Dec. 10, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    The Descent

    by oldnik

    The Descent was a very decent movie, well paced, I found it quite armchair gripping while I was watching it! But, like most of Neil Marshall's stuff, distilled from the sci fi/horror/cult movie/book ether! If you've read "THe Descent" by Jeff Long , you'll recognise the storyline instantly! co-incidence? not in my book, not with Marshall's track record. The trailer to the Descent was even an homage to the Alien trailer! Not that I'm a detractor of Marshall's stuff, I've enjoyed everything he's done, even Doomsday! he has a real love for cult movies, and he does an enjoyable genre mash-up/homage each time he does a movie. With the budgets he has to work with, I think he does a great job, and I would rather watch one of his movies anyday of the week over Bay and his ilk. Dog Soldiers was even billed as Jaws meets Predator on the cover! With Carpenter seemingly past it, there's atleast someone picking up the baton and running with it, Marshall's films are always enjoyable, in a pulpy, pop-culture , cult kinda way, and being a British director, I really have to stick up for him! he's never going to win an oscar, but he'll never sell out and do something he doesn't believe in

  • Dec. 11, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Marshall's a solid director

    by david starling

    Dog Soldiers and The Descent were both brilliant in their own right. Centurion and Doomsday were entertaining fare, and I avoided the sequel to the Descent (I don't trust the fact that The Descent seemed to tell a neat encapsulated tale - was there the need for a sequel?). This seems a bit mundane a film project really, just hope he can add some spice to it.

  • Dec. 12, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    I guess alan_poon likes girly movies

    by chien_sale

  • Dec. 12, 2011, 10:36 p.m. CST

    The Descent's...

    by Cruzboy

    my favourite horror movie of all time, and incredibly rewatchable. Anyone that says its crap is full of shit and also irrelevant. They should go and ejaculate into the nearest dust bin then drink their own aids cum and say goodnight. Because despite what the media tells you, you CAN catch it twice. Fucks.