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Someone Really Cool Has Joined The Cast Of The New TREK Movie!!
Merrick here...
Geek Favorite Peter Weller - the original RoboCop and the one and only Buckaroo Banzai - has joined the cast of Abrams' STAR TREK sequel. This per Variety.
Weller previously appeared in STAR TREK, specifically ENTERPRISE, the most recent television iteration of that franchise. His role in the new film will, without a doubt, NOT be a reprise of that part. While finishing his PhD in Italian Renaissance Art History, Weller's been keeping busy with appearance on series like DEXTER and 24.
As with Alice Eve (who we learned would be joining the cast last week) and Benecio Del Toro, we have no concrete information at this time regarding what part Weller will be playing in the new picture. I can see him as a badass Starfleet Captain ala Bruce Greenwood in the 2009 movie, or a Klingon, or scientist of some sort, or...or...
Weller is a great and smart actor who can do nearly anything, so who knows? Can't wait.
Below is a scene from THE ADVENTURES OF BUCKAROO BANZAI: ACROSS THE 8th DIMENSION. If my understanding is correct, and I believe that it is, this is one of the few sequences in the film shot by BLADE RUNNER's Jordan Conrenweth before The Powers That Be (not director W.D. Richter) decided that a different aesthetic for the film was required, and swapped out cinematographers. To, regrettably, results that were far less visually sophisticated.
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to any project. I'll be happy to see him, but I have little enthusiasm for the project at large.
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I'm here all week.
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Just to put Star Trek aside for a moment, but man they need to do a new Buckaroo Banzai movie -- starring his son, "Bucky", played by Cillian Murphy. T.'. Hong Kong Cavaliers
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I was mildly surprised by it.
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Basically Merrick doesn't have a clue what the roles are or what the story is even about. I guess that's why they call it wishlisting. For my wishlist, I wish people would stop calling this a Khan remake. It's not like the first one was a remake. Or really made much sense. Wow. I just realized, Michael Bay's Transformer movies make more sense than JJ's first Trek. Still, I really liked Weller's time traveller on Fringe.
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Should have left off the last Khan.
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...it's hard NOT to see Weller as an authority figure of some kind. His acting style tends to be subdued and he resorts a lot to a brief smile and a steady gaze. I enjoy him quite a bit in many of the roles he's played (Naked Lunch, Robocop, and Banzai), but I don't see him as the kind of actor that can, or even wants to, pull off a high-energy, villainous role. I'm sure he can do spurts of anger, but a sustained performance like Bana's in Star Trek 2009 isn't his style. We'll see. I don't have a wish list. I do think that this will be a fresh story and not a Khan refresh, though. That's just my gut. Good writers want to challenge themselves as much as they can--within the framework of what the studio will allow.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST
The only good villain Star Trek has left are the Borg... and they neutered them
by locke815
The Borg of "Q Who" and "Best of Both Worlds" were by far the best villain Star Trek ever conjured. Pure evil. No capacity for reasoning with them. No weaknesses to exploit. Just inevitable death. It was Star Trek's version of Anton Chigurh, or the Terminator, or whatever. They were coming and you were helpless to stop them. I think Star Trek: TNG's finest moment was Picard arguing with the Borg right after his abduction. It was genuinely scary. The happy-go-lucky "everything will work out like always"spirit was gone for the first time. Their first cliffhanger, Patrick Stewart considering leaving the show, etc... it was just genuinely solid entertainment. They never topped it. There was just something so cool about that chorus of monotonous voices. The fact that the Borg ship just wiped out the fleet at Wolf 359, without a scratch. There was no deus ex machina to stop them right from the get-go. And even the solution -- to exploit their leaderless connectedness to defeat them, putting them to sleep -- was so very inspired. So much better of a solution than relying on superior firepower, or some stupid "if we calibrate the phase inducers, blah blah blah." It was an elegant solution to a very difficult plotline. But, beginning with "I, Borg," continuing with "First Contact," and culminating with Voyager's numerous iterations, the Borg are useless. Not even threatening anymore. Why did they add a Borg Queen? Just to make the narrative easier? But it ruined the Borg. She could be reasoned with. She negotiated with Data, negotiated with Janeway, etc. She was emotional, made mistakes, etc. Pathetic. Abrams Trek 2 should resurrect the Borg in their previous glory. Inevitable death. Without reason. Just a force that consumes and consumes. Ships being destroyed. Officers being assimilated. And then the writers should put on their thinking caps and come up with a clever solution that makes these movies worth watching. There are so many ways to make the Borg relevant. Our culture is struggling with debates over capitalism vs socialism. There is such an opportunity to juxtapose the rugged individualism of James T. Kirk with the collectivist Borg. Plus, with "zombies" being so popular these days, it would be an easy sell to jazz up the assimilation process. So easy to have fun with various species being assimilated and the Borg's behavior changing as a result. But it won't happen. We'll just revisit the Klingons and laugh at their boisterousness. Too bad.
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I always thought he'd have made a great Batman/Bruce Wayne back in the day...
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Dec. 5, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST
"Buckaroo Bazai is a terrible film. NOT funny. " True, but....
by ravenloff
...the IDEA of the movie was excellent and deserves a reboot. A master-of-all-trades, surrounded by a group of masters that are just as likely to foil a villain's plot to rule the world as they are to headline a sold out rock concert at Madison Square Garden. A group of men (probably a woman and at least one gay guy if made today) who live in a world were tv shows and comics exist about them. Awesomeness.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST
Weller's playing the same character he played in Enterprise...
by palimpsest
...just so you know: http://bit.ly/tAtUzQ
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Dec. 5, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST
@zodnotgod Sorry, but any film with Jeff Goldblum can NOT be terrible. Period.
by AlienFanatic
Ebert has a similar rule of thumb, but I can't remember exactly which actor he feels that way about. For me, it's Goldblum.
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The man can do no wrong.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11 a.m. CST
He Was Completely Amazing on Fringe, As Well (For One Episode)
by Crow3711
But it was by far that shows finest hour, and that was in no small part to Weller's terrific performance, and his heart-breaking scenes with the equally great John Noble. Weller really blew my mind in that episode. If anyone is interested, just find the "White Tulip" episode of Fringe from season 2. You don't even really need to know the rest of the series to enjoy the episode, its such self-contained sci-fi brilliance. Of course it helps if you do, but it's good without it.
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shut the fuck up
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That stupid series finale "These are the Voyages" should never have been made, becaus ethe 2-part episode that started Peter Weller was the perfect ending for Enterprise. I think the next movie can only benifit from having him in it. It would be interesting if he was related to the character from Enterprise, who didn't want humans interacting with Vulcans or other aliens. I can definitley see him as a Starfleet Captain or Admiral, who might have issues with young Kirk. If he plays an alien, it should be a Vulcan or Romulan.
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Been a busy guy.
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The shows were little more than Sesame Street for grown-ups. All the bad guys had the personalities of muppet monsters, there was a preponderance of plotlines where Worf needed a to learn about cooperation, and once the bad guys saw how wonderful tolerance was, they always came around and resolved their differences in an amicable manner.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST
Buckaroo Banzi rules me like I was it's naughty love donkey. We quote the John Lithgow character (Lizardo) at my house to this day. Yes I know that's sad.
by ClayMatthews
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST
palimpsest... nowhere in that link does it say he is playing the same character
by Jake Pantlin
That link just talks about the character he played on Enterprise. Nowhere does it say he is playing the same character. The only way I could see them using that character would be if the film has a flashback to the 22nd century (which would be really cool, if they could find a way to use Capt Archer).
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Looking forward to the movie!!!
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST
Buckaroo was awful, but it was supposed to be campy.
by impossibledreamers
Like the director W.D. Richter's wacko script for Big Trouble in Little China...
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST
'Buckaroo Bazai is a terrible film.' 'Buckaroo was awful.'
by Brian Hopper
Are you people insane? Seeing Banzai when it came out with a charged-up, half-drunk college audience was one of the great movie experiences of my life. A classic cult film.
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Can you believe there are actually people out there who can say, "I'm taking Italian reinessance art history with Robocop next semester"? Weller is one of those actors like viggo mortensen and Tom Selleck who can do nothing in a scene but stand against a wall and stare and yet you are captivated by it. I suffered through Leviathan for the dude...though lisa elibacher's breasts were comforting.
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of Syracuse. Saw him on The History Channel a few times. WTF that's Robocop!
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a couple of videos after this video, you can watch the Bo Bomb scene from super mario brothers!!!
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Will this be just another "Tyler Perry" part?
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Wellers voice can only elevate whatever lines have been given to him.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST
Thought the title was hinting at Henry "The Fonz" Winkler ... would have been cooler
by MoneyGrabSequel
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the less convinced I am it will actually exist. Anyone else think this is just a bunch of random names being thrown around? I think I'm fine with this never happening. Just give up and put it back on tv where it belongs in a couple years.
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A movie too smart for it's audience- there are more great throw-away lines in just 10 minutes of this movie than all of Michael Bay's "blockbusters" thrown together. But then that's not really saying much, is it? I would love to have seen the World Crime League.
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OK, they remade The Karate Kid, The A-Team, 21 Jump Street and even Lost in Space! I think it is about time they make a reboot of one of sci-fi's cult classics! Buckaroo Banzai! This could seriously be a fun and crazy movie! Here is my dream cast: Buckaroo Banzai – James McAvoy. Great combination of intelligence, charm and already has action-star cred. Penny Priddy – Amber Heard. Kinda reminds me of Ellen Barkin for some reason. New Jersey – ??? I'm leaning to that lead singer dude in Glee. (Did you know he was in Stargate: SG1?) Perfect Tommy – Justin Timberlake. Perfect role for JT. Reno Nevada – ??? Rawhide – Josh Holloway Professor Hikita – Ken Watanabe My 2 cents...
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ChickenStu happy with this.
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by making them *beautiful*; there's no need for them to clunky and mechanical looking. A much more insidious type of Borg would peer into the psyches of each culture they assimilate, and recreate the best 'look and feel' of that culture. That would decrease the amount of rebelliousness immediately. If the Borg looked like high-tech Elves from Rivendell, and offered humans expanded consciousness and extended like, how many of us would willingly go? A more Miltonian, Luciferic Borg Queen is what is needed.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST
Exactly, @russellcrowesbeerbelly... that's the sequel/reboot/whatever
by Brian Hopper
I would have liked to have seen: the one promised at the end of Buckaroo Banzai... 'Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League'!
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST
Now that Peter Weller is done with his Doctorate Studies
by thelordofhell
He has more time on his hands to act/direct
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The OTHER last Vulcan. So Spock doesn't feel so Vulcan alone in the world. And NO that's not a coming out joke.
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What was the watermelon for?
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
so we can rest assured the script is just some shit smudges on a sheet of paper
by coz
all these names are just to distract us
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There were at least a thousand of the "elders" who made it off, not to mention the uncounted masses scattered around the Federation at the time.
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What on earth would lead you to believe that this isn't going to be made? The date has been set, filming begins next month, they are casting new roles, JJ is talking about the film in interviews..just what evidence is there that this won't be filmed?
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST
I have paraphrased "Wherever you go..there you are" as my favorite quote at a job interview.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
And still got the job... NOT funny? John Lithgow's performance is so knowingly over-the-top, but still in character; his accent, his murdering of language and phrases...just hearing him say "John Biga Booty" makes me smile. And Weller's calm in the middle of the storm zen is just as clever and humorous. And Jeff Goldblum in his cowboy outfit...priceless.
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He could be playing the same character as in Enterprise. That part of the Trek continuity still counts as the time-line altering event happened after the events of Enterprise. Ironic, I know, but it is true.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
wdrow - who would you cast nowadays for John Lithgow's role?
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Go for the original...I'm sure Lithgow could channel that character effortlessly. I seem to remember him playing that character on a mid-80's SNL...maybe?
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. . . he's the ONLY RoboCop.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST
'There are lots of Vulcans around. There were at least a thousand of the "elders" who made it off'
by Brian Hopper
No one cares. Trek fans are just waiting for Abrams Orci and Kurtzman to finish their three Crap Trek movies. The entire alternate universe bullshit will then be sealed in a cave and forgotten about, marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet. The Shit Trek alternate universe is not canon and never will be.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST
Re: Weller on Dexter...Weller was more menacing than the "big baddie"
by openthepodbaydoorshal
last season, and as much as I understand why it had to happen, I was sorry to see him go. For early Weller, see the excellent Shoot The Moon, with Albert Finney and Diane Keaton. Good marital drama stuff.
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I could see some kind of political intrigue movie for the sequel where a clone of Paxton (remember he was messing with genetics in the two parter and created a Human/Vulcan hybrid) revitalizes the Terra Prime initiative after the destruction of Vulcan. It would be a timely story involving terrorism and nefarious politics. Perhaps BDT would play a rogue starship captain in league with Paxton?
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Decker was in the Doomsday machine episode (and wasn't it theorized that V-Ger or the Borg created it?)... Anyway...perhaps Weller would/could be this Trek's Commodore Decker.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST
locke815...I agree, but you also answered the question as to why it won't happen...
by conspiracy
"And then the writers should put on their thinking caps and come up with a clever solution..." Sorry locke815..., the chances for that happening here are about as good as winning the lottery; possible, but not very damned likely.
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Faced with only 10,000 members of their race left, and in general being technologically superior to most species (Humans are late to the interstellar club) they do the logical, natural thing to ensure their survival; breeding programs, aggressive expansion, using other less advanced species for their own benefit. They were an aggressive, violent species before they embraced "Logic"...it would be fun to see them use logic to justify their return to an aggressive posture to ensure their survival.
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Reminds me of the other showbiz radical career change that I read about once: the former lead singer of Iron Maiden, is presently a working major airline pilot and an airline business executive.
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Was fucking awesome and made me cry.
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Try Jordan Cronenweth. I know it's only a typo but this site really needs to do some proof reading before articles are posted! Oh, and the end sequence of Buckaroo where the cast are all walking in a group towards camera to that 80's synth score is still a total classic.
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is absolutely amazing! I would actually like to see that explored in a new TV series where the entire story could unfold over several seasons.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 1 p.m. CST
Making the Vulcans the bad guys would also create conflict for the Spock Character...
by conspiracy
their actions making Logical sense to his Vulcan side, while his human side empathized with those their actions hurt...testing his allegiance, his friendships, his own personal views of right and wrong, cold Vulcan logic versus warm human compassion. Would make for great sci-fi and character interaction...would break from the series as this new timeline should...creating endless character and plot possibilities for future fims. of course it would require good writing to pull off.
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I'd help them out...not everything I write is perverted. Here that Roberto? Best of all...I'll do it for .01 of a gross point and it won't take me 6 fucking months either.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST
"Hear"...I mean...not enough fucking coffee and it's 50 degrees in this office.
by conspiracy
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Anything some dick head professor can teach can be had on the net for free..FACT!
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The best villuans are characters you actually like who through the course of the story become twisted, through no fault of their own, and conduct themselves in a way in which we the audience- and no doubt the characters former self- would find abhorrent. So the Vulcan idea would actually be very intriguing.
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not such a "horrible" idea... been done in ENTERPRISE..so JJ and crew can hide behind that "cannon"... and shoot the sht at us from there..;) but a faction of pissed off vulcans/ lead by Weller.... join forces with the Klingons... lead by del torro in Colicos mustache and beard.... to wage revenge/ war on the Romulans.... etc... spocks star fleet... only vulcan, hes "loyal" but torn, but pivotal to "storyline" " he tells us that OLD spock has communicated with him to make peace etc some kirk spock destiny kitomer thing..lol ..way to get a old spock reference in without paying /needed nimoy/or shat....which sucks in Enterprise and crew... in the middle of a shoot em up adventure that can push trek to more of a star wars battles clone... anyhow... its a guess... but lets not make Weller Sybok eh?
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Dec. 5, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST
I heard that the next movie is going to be about going back to Eden- again
by Michael Lunney
Too bad Napier died...
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i thought del toro was khan. so confused. khan twins?
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Dec. 5, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST
kravmaguffin - agreed, Weller was the fucking bomb in Dexter.
by TheBigLeBronski
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One is the alt verse Kahn and the other is the alt verse mirror universe Kahn. He gets split apart in a transporter accident and havok ensues.
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But try and take my geek card away, and see how fast this pale, mother's basement dwelling dweeb can poke your eyes out with my 11th Doctor sonic screwdriver!
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History is full of people doing bad things for the "right " reasons, sometimes even well intentioned overall good people doing very unsavory things in the name of the Greater Good. Using their own internal logic to justify it sometimes entire societies would find cause to logically justify or at the very least excuse the most barbarous actions. Weller with is schooling in History would probably love to play such a character...and would bring an learned understanding of such a person to the part.
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they were so awesome...what a wasted opportunity
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sorry, eventually someone would say it...
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are both aliases I have used online. I can't even say John BigBooty without cracking up. Its always a riot when somebody recognizes the name...it inveritably changes whatever was being discussed into a Bazai forum
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This film was way too smart, moved too quickly for most people. Those who had no scientific education missed about half of the humor in it. Too bad that no sequels were made because the cast/characters were full of potential. Peter Weller is wonderful and will be good to see him on the big screen!
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Even George 'King of the Universe' Lucas only made us wait three years for a new movie.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST
I used to hate Buckaroo Bonzai until I saw the director's cut..
by darthSaul666
Studios and their meddling... Honestly I though the flick was totally mindless until I saw the cut with the 1st 5 mins or so put back in...
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Dec. 5, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST
No matter how brilliant a director or how great the actors, if Orcunti and Fucksman are in, I am out !
by AllThosePowers
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I loved that movie when I was a kid. His coked-up ass was pretty damn scary. He has some chops. It's a good addition.
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Too bad he can't make another film with Cronenberg.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST
Weller and Del Toro? Hmm I sense a 'kinda odd and ugly' theme here
by tangcameo
I'm thinking Weller as a Vulcan and Del Toro as a Romulan. Or both Vulcan, although that would be less interesting, but they DO seem to cast a lot of people with long pockmarked faces to play Vulcans.
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Obviously he was kick-ass in Robocop, but he was magnificent in 24 (God I miss that show) as Jack Bauer's evil mentor. Can't wait to see him in the next Trek!
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Dec. 5, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST
Firstborn was messed up. Nice to see the respect.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
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Dec. 5, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST
I'd even buy Jar Jar Abrams' Star Trek for a dollar now.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
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- Peter Weller, check. now we just need to get some meaty work for Michael Keaton and Lance Guest.
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They simply became too cartoonish over the years. And maybe almost 'outdated' as just another example of dumb looking foreheaded aliens. I don't envy their task of having to figure out how to get them into the new universe without it being dumb. The Borg are much more menacing.
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good philip k dick adaptation. good stuff!
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there's your movie
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...funny as fuck!
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I remember when Weller was on the one of the late shows, and said (of Robocop 2)... "Oh yeah, I just did that one for the ch-ching" REALLY Peter? I spent my hard-earned money to see that - and that's what he thinks of the people who see his films???? How terribly insulting. At least actors who actually feel that way about some parts don't TELL that to the people who pay to see them. Thanks Peter. Hope you enjoy your "ch-ching."
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We all know the warp drive was perfected by YOYODYNE Propulsion
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Holding a grudge against an actor for a movie made 22 years ago? For admiting he did the film just for money? Get over it, every actor does it for the money. Your logic is insulting.
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great movie about the emerging yuppie culture vs nature Peter Weller is a subtle and nuanced actor who I have never seen turn in a bad performance
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Dec. 5, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST
Glad to see that a couple of aintitcool cunts are out and about talking shit about Buckaroo Banzai calling it "terrible" and "awful."
by elgato73
This fucking site wouldn't be the same without cunts like them. Keep up the work cunts. One day you'll get your asses handed to you by fans of the film like me.
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Go fuck yourself. Yours truly, AsimovLives P.S.: Fuck you.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST
Another cool actor gets a paycheck for an easy job on a hack directed dumb movie. News at 11.
by AsimovLives
So far so banal.
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It never ceases to amaze me the level of trolling that those cunts do on a site like this. BB is the epitome of geek coolness, and he will forever be one of my favorite film characters. Between his work on Buckaroo, Robocop, and Naked Lunch, Peter Weller is a film legend in my book. his inclusion on the new Trek can only help it.
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This may have been said before, but the irrational hatred and venom makes me think you have something in common with Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, and Bob Allen. Something about protesting too much....seriously let it go for the sake of your own sanity.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST
Peter Weller has always been a great actor with impressive range, who never really got his due
by Stegman84
He's one of that rare breed of class actor who, even when appearing in something that was cheaply made, ill advised, and/or badly written, who still always gave it his all, thus elevating him to the all too rare 'if his name is in the credits then there will be at least one thing worth watching, no matter how bad the rest is' brigade. But when he is given a quality role, look out, the man can stand toe to toe, acting wise, with pretty much anyone out there these days. He very much deserves a comeback, maybe this will be it...
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"it would be fun to see them use logic to justify their return to an aggressive posture to ensure their survival." But that wouldn't be logical at all. Vulcans believe the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few. They are the few in AbramsShitTrek universe, thus it would be completly antagonical and antithetical to their ways to sacrifice the rest of the federation for the sake of them alone. I don't know what kind of vulcans you were thinking about, but those are not the vulcans of Star Trek. But then again, this is AbramsTrek Paralel Universe where all made of bullshit and stupid.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST
He was awesome in the last series of Dexter...does anyone else think the current season is a massive step down (ie pretty bad) compared to all the previous?
by quantize
Seems to have completely lost any menace
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Your whole reason for existing is to whine about your hero JJ. Keep it up...its precisely the kind of tragic internet trolling that drives people to go see the films.. No need to tell you to go fuck yourself...im sure you do that on a regular basis...most likely to pictures of Lars Von Trier.
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That Weller has enough honesty to say he only did the exacrable ROBOCOP 2 only for the money makes him cool in my book. Because money is the only logical explanation why anybody wolod want to be involved with that tripe of a movie. I hope his paycheck was a big fat one.
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just saying.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
asimovlives...Remember, vulcans at heart are a violent race...
by conspiracy
they purged their emotions through logic, but the underlying aggression is there, and always has been. It would not take much for such "Logical" creatures, especially in an altered timeline when they have been murdered and "emotionally compromised", to twist it into something along the lines of Social Darwinism; it is logical for the strong to survive, and the weak to serve them. It is the way of nature...it is logical.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST
@Asimov: "That Weller has enough honesty to say he only did the exacrable ROBOCOP 2 only for the money makes him cool in my book."
by Henri Pouper
Ditto. I liked Weller even more upon reading that he did that.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST
As a fully licensed Blue Blaze Irregular and member of the Banzai Institute, I say...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...HUZZAH! Any chance for Weller to bring the awesome is alright with me. The Banzai Institute: Helping him help us.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
Quantize - When it comes to Abrams, Asimov can't help himself. This much is clear..
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...it is his density.
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can't overcome the worst writers in the world...
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST
I still maintain we should sent Asi to the Premier as a TB reporter.
by conspiracy
I swear..I WOULD kick in $100 towards the plane ticket and hotel; surely there are 15 or 20 other like minded Talkbackers who would gladly fork over a Benny to see such a thing happen. I mean...for fucks sake..the man has invested at LEAST 5 years into this...he should be rewarded with the chance to confront his nemesis face to face.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST
animas...Agreed. Although I believe EVERY writer has at least one GREAT story in them...
by conspiracy
I refuse to pass judgment until I've seen the script or film...though I will admit my hopes are not high.
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Go jump off a really tall building. Never knew that scene was shot by Cronenweth!
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Everybody need see Buckaroo, Later http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-QWCr3sHKQ
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Ha! That would be comedy gold. I would love to see him in full-bloom Aspergers, trying to form a coherent Portuguese-addled statement to the man-object of his obsession. Count me in.
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It's just too much fun. I can do this all day long.
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How does Jar Jar Abrams cum taste like?
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i have nothing to say for you. Except, maybe, find a better filmmaker with actual talent to admire indead of the fuckass hack you are so inlove with. That would be good.
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Allow me to agre with all you said about Peter Weller. Underrated actor indeed. his work on NAKED LUNCH lone should be enough to clue people in of his talent. And then there is his audio comentary for the Criterion Collection DVd edition of that movie, which proves what a smart and well educated literate guy he is. Kudos for that too. And he killed in Dexter Season 5.
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Vulcans were very violentm centuries ago. nowdays, while still retaining their vestigial agressive nature, they have adapted to their logical embracing culture, which is all persent in everything in their lifes. the vestigial remains of their former agressive nature is why it still makes them such badasses. But they are a very logical dudes, and as such, resorting to agressive politicking and conquering would be completly out of tune and completly against their nature as a people. Them acting like that, i wouldnt buy them for a second. It would reek of the typical misguideness that Oric, Kurtzman and Abrams, who don't give a fuck about ST, would pull out of their asses.
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what you don't understand, my dear mr nice, is that in real life i'm quite a non-assuming guy. if i went to that premiere, nobody would know i was there. i'm quite nondescript. and quite polite in the prezence of strangers. and the fuckass Abrams is a stranger to me. if i met abrams would i tell what i think of his movies? i would, if had the chance. but i would be polite about it. because as my mother used to say, politeness costs nothing. And Jar Jar Abrams can go fuck himself in the ass.
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iáint it mundane news. but truly you come here for the talkbakc, isn't it? like, say, the talkbakcs related to jar jar abrams, and perhaps the chance to see me post something like telling jar jar abrams to get fucked up in his fucking ass... or something like that. if that amuses you, that is. or maybe not.
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Jar Jar Abrams, go fuck yourself up your fucking ass. thank you very much, you have been a wonderful crowd. goodnight.
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get it? robocop,cyborg,borg.it all makes sense.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST
Haha, Weller's doing a Willem Dafoe -- villains in crap movies to pay for his art projects!
by Wookie_Weed
Fucking brilliant!
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Dec. 5, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST
"It's not my God-damn planet! Understand, Monkey-Boy!!!"
by L.H.Puttgrass
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Dec. 5, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST
Dear Asshole Smells, here's a telegram from the world outside your parents basement
by quantize
Lars Von Trier would like you to take a break from eating out his ass... he has some invisible doors to open and cars to drive...in between dance numbers.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST
"thank you very much, you have been a wonderful crowd. goodnight. " = CRICKETS
by quantize
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delightfully lacking in self awareness...
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"BIG-BOO-TAY! TAY! TAY!" *BLAM!!*
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He is a great actor, and was the best thing about that Dexter season by far.
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is the complete lack of advanced robotics. They are more than 100 years in the future and you're telling me intelligent autonomous androids are not commonplace? Also, hell the Singularity will happen in our lifetimes (by 2045). That is no small thing. True artificial intelligence.
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"Home is where you wear your hat."
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Dec. 5, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
re: Singularity will happen in our lifetimes (by 2045).
by Jake Pantlin
Don't believe everything you read, my friend. I'm still waiting for my jet pack, and that was due back in 1987.
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Your predilection for Riker's knob (he is after all you're #1) is wearing the old guy down. Please let Valhalla, or Lars, or any one of the younger (kids) drill your sphincter every now and again to appease the rest of us. Sincerely, your goat herd. p.s. You don't always have to say "fuck me in the ass" every time before insertion, but we like to hear it anyway.
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Dec. 5, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST
@alienfanatic the actor that Ebert uses for his rule of thumb is
by KilliK
Harry Dean Stanton
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that they'll have him playing Gary Seven. He'll be investigating the recent temporal disruptions for his alien masters, maybe even trying to correct a thing or two. Like the loss of Vulcan for instance. That'd get my butt in a seat for a second round. Weller is aces in my book.
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Dec. 6, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST
Of course Vulcans could find the logic in a violent action, or self preservation...
by conspiracy
I think people are confusing Ethics with Logic. Even leaving aside the very logical idea of Darwinism as applied to the Vulcans survival, we could look at this another way. Being the most advanced of the species in the Trek Universe, the Vulcans were responsible for Earth getting back on its feet, it could logically be assumed that their extinction would indirectly or directly cost the lives of billions of others in the Federation...the Federation then lacking the Vulcans penchant for diplomacy, and their advanced science. If the death of the few would result in the death of the many, then the survival of the few must be paramount. Or.... Lets say the Vulcans discovered that on the world they relocated too were 100,000 beings, who though uncivilized and perhaps even of questionable true intelligence, held some genetic trait that when exploited would give some genetic diversity fix needed to repopulate a species, which less than 10,000 Vulcan individuals may not have (probably...but no guarantee...it IS science fiction after all ...anything is possible). Given that we know the Trek Galaxy would be MUCH worse off without the Vulcans, with perhaps hundreds of millions dying in wars and pestilence, situations that he Vulcans have helped stopped in the past and are more likely or positive to happen again without them; would it not be Logical to sacrifice these 100K primitives for the greater good of the Billions? And besides...we've already seen in the Trek universe where Vulcans see the ends justifying the means, and having no problem separating what they see as a logical action from a certain point of view, from ethical behavior...such as Valeris actions in Trek VI. See...it isn't hard to make Vulcans bad guys while staying true to their nature...in fact it makes them the potentially the ultimate "bad" guy...as their repressed emotions, genetic predisposition to violence (they are just polite Romulans after all) when striped of their logical mask, and cold unfeeling calculating logical intellect when under control would make the formidable baddies. But I don't think you need worry Asi...it won't happen; do you really think the ppl involved in this, or the studio backing it, could think outside the box and go off like I have outlined here? No...you will get something familiar, but just different and action packed enough to put 15yr old butts in seats and not require too much thinking. And if it does you are all getting called as witnesses when I fucking sue them for intellectual theft. "All ideas, outlines, plot points, characterizations and random thoughts presented by Conspiracy in this Talk Back are wholly owned by Conspiracy and may be used only with his written consent."
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I think the problem lies with Roddenberry's Humanist, Utopian socialist ideology. In Genes 60's influenced mind Humans of the future would reject robots because they'd find some humanist satisfaction in doing it themselves...which is pure Utopian bullshit. The fact is humans are fucking lazy...we look for the most for the least in every thing we do...from relationships to the food we eat. It is our nature, and in many ways it s the smart thing to do. You can bet your bottom dollar that by the 23rd century Robots will do doing everything from washing your car and mowing your lawn to giving you a no strings attached reach around every morning. Hell...the Japanese say they are less than 10years away from a fully automated lifelike sexual companion. I can't fucking wait!
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Who was the cinematographer of Blade Runner, the U2 documentary Rattle and Hum, Peggy Sue Got Married, Altered States, and father of Jeff Cronenweth (Fight Club and Social Network). And you call yourself a geek!
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Dec. 6, 2011, 4:09 a.m. CST
I will say it again: Have the FERENGIS as the capitalist villains
by KilliK
and make a contemporary movie about the current worldwide economical crisis.SCIFI is all about exploring and making commentaries and sometimes giving solutions on contemporary situations and problems that the world faces,either it is about politics,economics,societies,religion,etc or the human nature itself. Scifi is not only pew pew and boom boom.Especially good scifi like Star Trek WAS.Star Trek is about telling good stories with a message,making a point,exploring philosophical,social,political and psychological subjects,touching themes which relate to problems and challenges in our modern world. But from a television director and the writers of Xena/Hercules i dont expect to undestand what ST is about,what good scifi is about.In fact i dont expect thing from the younger,so called fans either. FUCK THEM ALL.AND FUCK GOOGLE WHICH KILLED FIREFOX.FUCK YOU GOOGLE.
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Ayyyyyyy!
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Dec. 6, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST
=Hell...the Japanese say they are less than 10years away from a fully automated lifelike sexual companion.=
by KilliK
FUCK!!. i want one.
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THAT would kick ass
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Red Lectriods support this, well done, put Weller in more stuff I say or I will be forced to help you destroy yourself. John.
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Dec. 6, 2011, 8:57 a.m. CST
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by tdrvhyfgjyhb
nmkh
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that was sooo lame! Fail! Go buy a personality and then you talk to me! I'll wait.
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i wish for you double you wish for me.
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actually, evne in the TOS series they say they have the technology to make sentient robots and androids, but they won't because they raise up a whole lot of can of worms in regard to the moral and ethic problem of AIs. So, they side-step the issue by declaring robotic/android AI illegal. Remember, in TNG, Data himself is an exception created by a made genious who worked illegally.
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ethics is a subsidiary of logic. this goes tenfold for a vulcan. so no, logically, your cpourse of action would be an imperative impossibility for a vulcan. your argument is not based on logic but on argument of passion. a vulcan would rather chose extiction then to cause dammage to the rest of federation. THE NEEDS OF THE WHOLE AND THE MANY OUTWEIGHT THE NEEDS OF THER FEW OR A ONE. So, no, no matter how much argumentation you might think up, in the end, it is illogical,and thus, it wouldn't happen. But in a JarJarTrek shitunivers,e where the assclowns who created never actually ever heard of what logic is besides merely as some word, that shit would happen. Irt's quite obviousb from the first Jar Jar's ShitTrek, that for the filmmakers of that shit that for them logic is a buzzword.
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You talk about 60s Humanist, Utopian socialist ideology as if it's a bad thing! And in Star trek, asd in the TOS show and movie,s not the JarJarTrek bullshit, humanity is not the humanity of today. It's a better version of humanity, where people are far more moral and ethical. Thus, the kind of human frailities like laziness, are either absent or severely downplayed to the point one who has those is the freak who would get into terapy. In such a better society populated by better individuals, the drive to create servant AI robots would be nil. Also, the Federation might just be a bit too genre savvy, in that they actually lerned the lesson about the dangers of AI robots going around from SF literature. The federation is not populated by idiots. That is, the ST TOS federation. The JarJarTrek federation, however, is run by complete imbecilles, so, in that shituniverse, it could happen.
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IF the destruction of one planet would save 1,000; would it be logical to then destroy the one? Do not confuse morality and ethical behavior with Logic...sometimes the logical choice is not the most savory one. While Vulcans are by teaching Pacifists...logic would dictate them always choosing the lessor of two evils when such a decision was forced upon them. Creating a condition (lack of viable genetic lines, destruction of planet causing a rethink the logic of their pacifist ways in a violent universe, etc...) in which Vulcan logic and science comes into conflict with their pacifist beliefs and leads them down a far different path would open new doors in the Trek Universe. Far better than revisiting the same old characters and similar situations. Wouldn't you rather see something new and fresh, perhaps even shocking than simply TOS over and over and over? And this has nothing to do with Abrams and his minions so we can just leave him out of this hypothetical discussion.
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IF the destruction of one planet would save 1,000; would it be logical to then destroy the one? Do not confuse morality and ethical behavior with Logic...sometimes the logical choice is not the most savory one. While Vulcans are by teaching Pacifists...logic would dictate them always choosing the lessor of two evils when such a decision was forced upon them. Creating a condition (lack of viable genetic lines, destruction of planet causing a rethink the logic of their pacifist ways in a violent universe, etc...) in which Vulcan logic and science comes into conflict with their pacifist beliefs and leads them down a far different path would open new doors in the Trek Universe. Far better than revisiting the same old characters and similar situations. Wouldn't you rather see something new and fresh, perhaps even shocking than simply TOS over and over and over? And this has nothing to do with Abrams and his minions so we can just leave him out of this hypothetical discussion.
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but then he took an arrow to the knee.
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I'm finding geek related stuff so lame and boring right now, I just keep watching old stuff , and thats getting boring to. I wish I didn't feel that way but I do...
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God I love that movie.
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Dec. 6, 2011, 11:10 p.m. CST
Oh the IRONY = "that was sooo lame! Fail! Go buy a personality and then you talk to me! I'll wait. "
by quantize
Really? You're gonna tell him 'lame' with THAT? with THAT? limp micro dick response? woah..i knew you were delusional..but thats padded room material
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