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Drafthouse Films Will Release ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: THE WILD UNTOLD STORY OF CANNON FILMS!

Published at: Dec. 1, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST

Nordling here.

I'm a child of the 1980s, so I remember with fondness movies like the MISSING IN ACTION series, or the DEATH WISH sequels, and even, yes, BREAKIN' 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO.  Many of those great action and genre films we know and love came from Cannon Films, the brainchild of Menechem Golan and Yoram Globus.  Chuck Norris probably owes his entire career to these two guys, and the documentary about the famous production company, ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: THE WILD UNTOLD STORY OF CANNON FILMS, has been acquired by Drafthouse Films.

Sure, Cannon was mostly exploitation fare, but they did work with some amazing filmmakers, including Jean-Luc Godard and John Cassavetes, and even adapted a Kurosawa film (RUNAWAY TRAIN).  And we also got so many great genre films like LIFEFORCE, and even family fare like MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE.  ELECTRIC BOOGALOO is currently in pre-production in Australia, with a release eyes for late 2012.  Here's the press release:

****FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE****

DRAFTHOUSE FILMS ACQUIRES US RIGHTS TO“ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: THE WILD, UNTOLD STORY OF CANNON FILMS” 

New Doc Will Chronicle Infamous ‘80s Exploitation Production Outfit From Acclaimed Director Mark Hartley

AUSTIN, TX – Thursday, December 1, 2011– Drafthouse Films, the distribution arm of the world-famous Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, announced today the acquisition of all US rights toELECTRIC BOOGALOO: THE WILD, UNTOLD STORY OF CANNON FILMS from world-wide sales agent Celluloid Nightmares. From acclaimed cult film documentarian Mark Hartley (NOT QUITE HOLLYWOOD, MACHETE MAIDENS UNLEASHED), the film centers on the story of two Israeli-born, movie-obsessed cousins, Menahem Golan and Yoram Globus, who in pursuit of the “American dream” launched an indie studio that would produce over 120 exploitation films from 1979-1989 turning a renegade outfit into the proclaimed “seventh Hollywood major.” The film is currently in pre-production in Australia with Producer Veronica Fury and Executive Producers XYZ Films (upcoming Sony Pictures release THE RAID). A theatrical release is being planned for late 2012 to coincide with a traveling roadshow retrospective of Cannon’s seminal films.

While best known for their explosive ‘80s action fare (MISSING IN ACTION, DEATH WISH sequels, Academy Award® Nominated RUNAWAY TRAIN), Cannon Films’ diverse and ambitious production output also included body-count slashers (TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2), musicals and comedies (THE APPLE, BREAKIN’), science fiction and fantasy epics (MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, LIFEFORCE), martial arts classics (AMERICAN NINJA series, KICKBOXER), neo-noir crime thrillers (52 PICK-UP, 10 TO MIDNIGHT), art-house dramas (BARFLY, John Cassavetes’ LOVE STREAMS, Jean-Luc Godard’s KING LEAR), in addition to launching the careers of many future genre superstars like Chuck Norris and Jean-Claude Van Damme. “No other production organization in the world today,” proclaimed Roger Ebert in 1987, “has taken more chances with serious, marginal films than Cannon.”

“Cannon Films was an enterprise that in many ways defined exploitation cinema of the 1980s,” said Alamo Drafthouse Founder/CEO and Fantastic Fest Founder Tim League, “We are thrilled to share their untold legacy with movie fans around the country.” Drafthouse Films Director Evan Husney elaborated, “With director Mark Hartley at the helm, ELECTRIC BOOGALOO is sure to be a wildly entertaining, comprehensive and frenetic no-holds-barred dive into the world of perhaps the most infamous production company in film history.” 

“I was lucky enough to have my first feature NOT QUITE HOLLYWOOD screen at Fantastic Fest in 2008 - and ever since then the chance to revisit the festival and the Alamo Drafthouse has been one of the principal motivations for me to get out of bed and make more movies!” says director Mark Hartley. “The news that Drafthouse Films has joined the ELECTRIC BOOGALOO party is beyond awesome. I know that Tim League and his team will find the most inventive, outrageous and ridiculously entertaining ways to roll the film out across America - and personally I can't wait for the show to begin.”

The deal was negotiated by Nate Bolotin, on behalf of Celluloid Nightmares and XYZ Films and Tim League, Founder and CEO of the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, James Emanuel Shapiro, Chief Operating Officer and Evan Husney, Director of Acquisitions, on behalf of Drafthouse Films.

For more information on Drafthouse Films or ELECTRIC BOOGALOO visit:

http://twitter.com/drafthousefilms

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http://youtube.com/drafthousefilms

Can't wait to see it.  Nordling, out.

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  • Dec. 1, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    FIRST

    by CullenisPrime

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    I want to see this almost as much as CORMAN'S WORLD doc

    by melonman

    GOLAN-GLOBUS were everywhere for a few years in the 80s.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Cannon Films sucked

    by Michael Lunney

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    this guy makes good documentaries

    by Spandau Belly

    If you don't know a lot about whatever subject he's tackling, his docs are good introductions. NOT QUITE HOLLYWOOD was excellent. He got all the right people and all the right clips for that one.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Recently watched Machete Maidens Unleashed

    by seasider

    about the grindhouse exploitation flicks many of which were shot in the Phillipines. Cannon films in many ways was an extension of that era of movies but aimed more at the home video crowd than the drive-inn patrons.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

    by AdrianVeidt

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    I guess it's too expensive to make 'expolitation' films now...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...even 'cheap' movies are expensive now. I loved me some Chuck Norris back in the day. 'Invasion USA'. Ha!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    i loved the poster for Cannon's aborted Spiderman film

    by DonLogan

    with Spidey swinging through SPACE

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Cannon ruled

    by Bop N Rumble

    As soon as I saw the Cannon logo I knew I was in for a treat. Golan and Globus are legends in my eyes.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    LIFEFORCE: Starring Mathilda May's huge tits!

    by the_rising

    God, she was hot. Her body had extra special care in its creation by the all mighty King of Kings.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST

    ELECTRIC BOOGALOO 2: YOU CAN BOOGALOO TOO!

    by cameron

    One of the greatest titles in TB history, Electric Boolgaloo can be tagged onto just about any punchline, a work of unheralded genius!!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Not Quite Hollywood was great. Looking forward to it.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Golan and Globus were always synonamous with suck

    by hst666

    back in the day, Barfly excpted. However, I was unaware they had done films with Godard and Cassavettes. And I did like the titties in Lifeforce. I'll have to see this.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Salome (1086) with Jo Champa, never saw a muff that hairy since the 70's!

    by CeejayNightwing

    totally impossible to get a decent copy of this now, even the Italian DVD looks like crap!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 10:34 a.m. CST

    DELTA FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DangerDave

    MY 12 YEAR OLD MIND WAS FUCKED!!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Great memories of being there during the go go years

    by AlbertPyun

    Cannon was the only studio situation I've ever worked under. They really tried to create a pure filmmaking and film loving environment. It was always volatile and a bit chaotic but where else could you meet Toby Hooper in the emergency stairwell and have a conversation while he smoked his cigars (hence the stairwell) or being ordered by Andrei Konchalavsky to fetch him cigarettes and coffee from the cafeteria - I looked like a PA back then. I remember seeing Barbet Shroeder stage his one man sit in to get his film Barfly green lit. This escalated to the point where he stormed the 5th floor where the execs where with a chain saw. I overheard Sly and his producer buddy Jim Brubaker just lambast poor Menahem over his film "Over the Top". Where else would a studio head let you listen in to a dress down over the speaker. After being lambasted with vile insults and just pure meanness, Menahem turned to me and said "this is Hollywood". What a lovely man Menahem was and is. It was a wild time especially for someone like me. Albert Pyun facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    976-NINJA

    by yesiamaplant

    A friend of mine co-wrote a screenplay for Cannon in the late 80's (so this is AFTER Ninja III: The Domination) called 976-NINJA wherein a deadly ninja, in the course of his escape from police in Japan, calls an American phone sex hotline and uses ninja magic to transmit his soul into girl's body, then goes around killing people. Anyone know if this ever got made?

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Some Cannon movies I enjoyed...

    by Baryonyx

    ...include: Missing in Action 2: The Beginning, Invasion USA and 10 To Midnight. Even Masters of the Universe was fun the first time I watched it, and Lifeforce was a guilty pleasure (as was Revenge of the Ninja and The Borrower!) Of course, they made some awful turkeys, like Superman IV and Hero and the Terror.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    being in my mid teens in the mid eighties..

    by paul burnett

    .. was a fantastic time to be renting videos from the local family run store called simply the video library. Golan/Globus Cannon movies were allways a treat, though at that time i never looked out for there logo when renting, but was never let down...chuck norris, michael dudikoff etc. my wifes younger brother doesn't get what it was like from only being able to see films at the cinema to all off a sudden having the abiltiy to see films...when you want!! happy days...fuckin hell i'm old

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    The Sho Kusugi and Charles Bronson films give Cannon a legacy

    by Bobo_Vision

    Chuck Norris and his gay films detract from it. <p>

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    By proxy, they are responsible for Delta Farce.

    by AdrianVeidt

    Death to the masses.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    This will be essential viewing.

    by ChickenStu

    Pumped for this.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Mr Pyun....I assume you'll be getting interviewed for this film?

    by Quake II

    Cannon was a huge part of my movie renting life in the 1980's. I remember that when that Cannon logo came up I was in for a violent, sometimes great time at the movies. Even the bad Cannon films were at least worth watching once. The Death Wish series got progressively more ridiculous but I always made sure to see the next one. Charles Bronson & Chuck Norris definately owe the Golan Globus boys some gratitude for keeping them relevant in the 80's.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    NINJA III: THE DOMINATION(1983) & REVENGE OF THE NINJA (1985)

    by beamish13

    Are better than any action films from the last 20 years

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST

    I will watch the shit out of this!

    by BloodiedFox

    Loved me some Cannon as a kid

  • "Oh boy. That ain't good."

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Cannon, Carolco, Orion... All with their cheesy 80s logos...

    by Ricardo

    Those logos made the movie feel it was worse than it was.

  • Then again they were a shitty B-Movie company. American Ninja? Rappin? Breaking? and fuck those idiots for the horrid Exterminator sequel. (y'know, the one with Mario Van Peebles?) And poor Charles couldn't great a major break as he settled for crap like Death Wish The crackdown. Canon indeed, since they were known for blasting out garbage films.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Sword and The sorceror was Albert Pyun's only good Film BTW.

    by Stalkeye

    Captain America? well I would say his worst. (Something about an Italian Red Skull, Fugly actor playing Steve Rodgers and plasticky ears.) I'll give him props for Nemesis, however.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    delta Force was more GIJoe than GIJoe.

    by Stalkeye

    er, Fact?

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I realize most of their films are shit

    by scudd

    but as a child of the 80s, I can't help but feel nostalgic when I see that logo. Very much looking forward to this.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    And let's not forget Cobra: "Crime is the disease. Im the cure"

    by dahveed1972

    One of the most exploitative and entertaining Stallone movies of all time.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Plus the softcore Bo Derek vehicle, Bolero. Nuff said there.

    by dahveed1972

  • I was way into Spidey in the 80's and followed every rumor about a movie only to have my hopes dashed. Maybe it would have been mediocre but not having it really depressed me. Hard to believe the 90's failed to yield a Spidey film as well.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Oops, I forgot to add Street Smart as one of my faves.

    by Stalkeye

    For once, Reeve didn't get typecasted as Supes. However, I thought that scene in which Mild Mannered Reeve easily manhandled Freeman's (Fast Black, I think.) flunky so easily was very say, unconvincing. He must have still had his super powers. Jus saying.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Kinda like red sox fans and Bill Buckner after the 2004 World Series.

    by dahveed1972

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    What's a ELECTRIC BOOGALOO?

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Seriously.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    How come there's no Cobra sequel?

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Seriously.

  • also, I would have appreciate the background of Marion Cobretti and this Zombie Sqaud. His then wifey almost ruined the experience for me as She Goddamn dwarfs the fucker and not to mention, can't act. Funniest line: "I never liked that Bitch".

  • ...The Night of the Living dead remake. Then afterwards came Captain America. OUCH!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I forgot that Cobra was a Cannon film

    by scudd

    I still associated Brian Thompson with that movie when I see him pop up in something.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Cobra II: The Zombie Squad

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    An old and bitter Marion Cobretti (Stallone) is forced to come out of retirement when his former partner (Reni Santoni) is killed by a new version of the New World Gang. Due Cobra experience with the original gang, the Chief of Police (Art La Fleur) authorizes Cobra to recruit a new team of The Zombie Squad, in order to bring those criminals to justice. This shit writes itself alone. Mr. Stallone, give me a call and let's make a billion together.

  • I can't wait to see this film, as the Cannon years were a wild and woolly time in the theaters and for the booming home video market too. Albert Pyunn is an interesting, cool character, no matter what you think of his film output.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Their logo looks like the OCP logo

    by Mel

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 2:18 p.m. CST

    "Cannon Films sucked" Word!!

    by AsimovLives

    the few truly good movies they made barely compensate for the 99% dreck they made. the name Canon Group alone made me run to the hills. that it bankrupted was poetic justice.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    That scene in MIA2...

    by Baryonyx

    ...when the sadistic Vietnamese hang Chuck upside down and tie a bag over his head with a huge rat inside... there's blood staining the bag as Chuck thrashes about and his captors finally, gleefully untie the bag, expecting to find Chuck's face all chewed-up by the rat... but no: Chuck has the fucking rat clenched between his teeth, dead! An all-time classic scene!

  • These were Halcyon Days of cocaine-fueled, ass-kicking B-movies that made shit tons of money on an international scale. I love it. Can't wait to see this one!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    CANNON FILMS was butter on my popcorn for 80's action/drama/thriller films!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I don't care what anyone say they put out some REAL films for guys! Now all we get is this emo BULLSHIT AND half-ass martial arts films thats aided by wires/cgi! LONG LIVE CANNON FILMS!!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    10 2 Midnight, Over The Top classics.

    by SmokieGeezer

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Stupid wannabe highbrow artiste elitists....

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Yeah i'm talking to you asimovlives.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Asi - not everything is 'Cinema', bro...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    Some movies are just some silly, fun shit! That pretty much sums up Cannon!

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Cannon Films = Home Movie life in the 80's

    by corporategohan616

    Bloodsport? Sure its phony as hell now that ya look at it but it was a psuedo taste of what MMA was striving to be... Ninja 3 : The Domination? It was The Breakin chick and she was posessed by a dead ninja and it was 80's fap material... Death Wish 3? Bronson takes out the dude Mad Mardigan knew from Willow.. Stellar movies...

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Ran into Steve James...

    by Hipshot

    From the "American Ninja" films in a theater on Hollywood boulevard long ago...nice guy. And Michael Dudikoff has apparently disappeared. I mean, no one knows where he is or how to find him. Pity. Would have worked for "Expendables II."

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    This Sounds Good.

    by proper

    I'll look out for this. Cannon= Video shop gold.

  • Dec. 1, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    "they put out some REAL films for guys! "

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    I guess "guys" like stupid fucking movies. Perhaps you meant to say neanderthals?

  • Dec. 2, 2011, midnight CST

    Loved the hell out of Cannon's ninja movies, as a kid.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    Capone had a fantastic interview with Menahem Golan last year: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47497

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Isn't Dudikoff on facebook? Looks like he posted recently:

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    http://www.facebook.com/MichaelDudikoff.official

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    A Golan/Globus Production.

    by Tom

    That always stuck with me.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Brain Smasher!!!!

    by Bop N Rumble

    Puyn's best movie. We are NOT ninja!!!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 2:57 a.m. CST

    asmokiegeezer the WB gave them a proper budget to make Superman 4

    by kabookieslap

    but they took the money and paid bills with most of it. A lot of the EFX were done for free. The crew showed up and no money...but they loved Superman so they continued on. The shot of Clark putting the green crystal in his pocket in the Kent Farm Barn...stolen location. They drove around on a Sunday in a farm area looking for a barn that kind of matched with the homeowners at Church and shot that shot gonzo. The only thing that was planned was that they did have use of the zoptic system but the VFX producer didn't think they had time in the schedule to shoot the flying sky plates before they had to shoot those shots, so he chose bluescreen so that he could shoot them after shooting Reeve, Kidder and Pillow in front of bluescreen. Even John Williams wrote some new music for the movie as a favor to Reeve, who he maintained a close friendship with. Was one of the reasons he turned down scoring Superman Returns. He saw Routh looked so much like Reeve, and he was still sad about Reeve's death (was approached after Reeve had died) that he could not do it, so he turned Singer down.

  • to actually shoot it. The rest they paid bills and it really pissed off the WB.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:31 a.m. CST

    When movies were still movies

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    and not just 1 tiny part of a gigantic corporate merchandising scheme. Everything Cannon made was so thrillingly sleazy.

  • And thsat's why i have no shame or guilt in loving and enjoying a movie like CAPTAIN KORNOS: VAMPIRE HUNTER or VAMPYRES/DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS. there is no such thing for me as a guilty pleasure. movies are either good or bad, genre is no excuse. Movies are good regardless if they are exploitation, high-brow or blokbuster. Doesn't matter, all is cinema. And there's good and there's bad. Canon Groupdeliberatly made shit movies, with the ocasional good one when they felt the need to play the prestige card. i'm thankful for the good movies they were responsible for, like MARIA'S LOVERS and RUNAWAY TRAIN. but those are very few and very far between, even for a Holywood studio standard. They mostly made shit, and that you know very well. And i'm not in the habit of mistaking shit for fun.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:20 a.m. CST

    sicuv uyall

    by AsimovLives

    you know jackshit, you stupid retard moron cunt ass fuck! go masturbate on your precious beloved Jar Jar Abrams and fuck off.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    sierratangofoxtrotuniform

    by AsimovLives

    neanderthals were actually fairy intelligent and highly skilled creatures. the poor guys don 0't need to be compared to the trash that Canon Group movies cathered to.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Even these cheapies had heart...

    by ZodNotGod

    I guess Asylum would be the offspring, which is sad considering how truly terrible those films play. I feel sorry for the kids growing up today who now know films as only disposable entertainment and not life-changing experiences. Very sad. I miss the days of walking the video store aisles and perusing the sections; horror and sci-fi mostly, new releases if anything was of interest. I can do it today, but the prices are kind of steep and the selections all look the same. Sure Cannon made some turds, but even those were fun! Missing in Action, American Ninja, Delta Force and one of my favorites, LifeForce...although they must pay for killing Superman.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:26 a.m. CST

    this talkback is proof of the dangers of unchecked nostalgia.

    by AsimovLives

    there's a lot of rosy tinted glasses in here. Nostalgia filter ahoy!! http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NostalgiaFilter

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:26 a.m. CST

    With a proper budget, Superman 4 would have worked

    by ZodNotGod

    It was instantly better than 3 simply because it wasn't 3. It could have saved the studio had it not been gutted and thrown to the wolves.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST

    margot_tenenbaum

    by AsimovLives

    dude, Canon group acted like a corporation. if anything, studios today act up like canon used to in the 80s. what you might complain about Canon, the studios are doing today.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:28 a.m. CST

    RE: redleaderstandingby

    by ZodNotGod

    If you have to ask...don't bother watching this.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Bronson and Cannon! Together forever!

    by ZodNotGod

    Charlie Bronson made Cannon a star and vice versa well into his 70's with such B-movie crap like The Evil that Men Do, 10 to Midnight, Kinjty(?), Death Wish 3-5 and beyond. I love Cannon films because they embraced sleaze, they never mocked it, it was there and they used it and pimped it out to make the most entertainment available at the time. Not all of their movies were good, most were crap, but nearly all were always entertaining. (except for "The Hero & the Terror. That one stunk) Can the big studios today make that claim? What about the always dull George Clooney? I think we know how to answer that. Of course not.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:39 a.m. CST

    NOT all of the films sucked!

    by ZodNotGod

    I'd rather take bad and entertaining over bad and dull.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Runaway Train was overrated....

    by ZodNotGod

    Thank you Eric Roberts. Hated that one.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:45 a.m. CST

    for some

    by sHapesHiftinLizard

    good insights into the workings behind Cannon films, read 'Hollywood' by Charles Bukowski. It goes into detail about how Barbert Schroder went in with a Black and Decker electric saw and threatened to cut off his fingers, starting with his pinkie, if they did not get Barfly re-greenlit(as Albert Pynn briefly talked about witnessing in the TB back there). There are lots of encounters with film stars and filmakers who are metioned under false names, Tom Pell is Sean Penn...John Luc Monard is Jean Luc Godard...Dennis Hopper is in there, Mickey Rourke and his biker gang, Norman Mailer(who was adapting and directing one of his novels for a Cannon movie, he accompanies Bukowski to a Cannon party which is very funny), and there is a very funny encounter with this crazy producer who works for FFCoppola(who co-produced Barfly). A lot of you probably know this book already of course, but for the uninitiated it is a must, utterly hilarious.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST

    RE: asimovlives

    by ZodNotGod

    Not all of it is nostalgia. I own most of the movies i mentioned and watch them peridocally. i hate nostaliga for nostalgia sake, but this is not the case, not for me. I love these films, bad, sure, most, but some were gems and all were usually entertaining...

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 7:07 a.m. CST

    RE: kabookieslap

    by ZodNotGod

    Thanks for the Superman 4 info. The movie fascinates me as they were originally on the road to greatness I think in making another worthy entry so its always interesting to read how it went so wrong.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Asi - We agree to disagree then...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    Because when I think of 'Cinema', I think Fellini and such, not Chuck Norris. In the 80's I was in my twenties, and went to the movies several times a week - a Cannon film was almost always on the agenda. We knew we were watching crap - that was the point. It was indeed a guilty pleasure for us. Zoddy hit the nail on the head for me: "I'd rather take bad and entertaining over bad and dull." (Thanks, Zod: I had forgotten about the rat in a bag scene from MIA. And thus, a meme was born...) Nostalgia is indeed viewed through rose colored glasses. Although I'm not gonna seek them out, you can be damned sure if I come across Chuck's 'Hitman' on cable, I'm stopping and checking it out.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Even watching good movies all the time gets boring...

    by ZodNotGod

    just like a good diet, you need ruffage, crap, junk once in awhile. Keeps things interesting.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    The House that Chucks Built would be a better title!

    by ZodNotGod

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Check these links out...

    by ZodNotGod

    if you can't find a good movie within, I pity you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Golan-Globus_films

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    zodnotgod

    by AsimovLives

    i perefer my movies good AND entertaining, thnak you very much. and there's no lack of those, so no need to enjoy the shitty ones, if you know what i mean.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 9:20 a.m. CST

    zodnotgod

    by AsimovLives

    there are some few god movies made by Canon. Emphasis on FEW. eventually even a shameless pure profit outfit like Canon will pay for a prestigious movie because even the more mercenary of movie producers want to have some legitimacy and be appraised and respected within the community. every one of them. while everybody in the film business wantn to be rich, they also ache for respectability. and anybody who says otherwise is lying.

  • it caa be, but not necessarily so. there's quality in every genre, in every walks of life movies. so you fucks who think that just because i want a good movie means i can only enjoy art-house stuff, you can go fuck yourself up your fucking ass and go suck JJ abrams cock, cocksucker! are we clear now? thank you.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    My vote is with Bronson...maybe somene can check.

    by ZodNotGod

    I believe Bronson made more, was more well known. I'm too lazy to do the math. I know Norris did his share as well, but Bronson lasted well into the 90's where Norris was soon banished to television.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Asi, no one is saying that...are they?

    by ZodNotGod

    What they are saying is that Cannon made some turds, yes, but that's ok, because they are enjoyable turds for the most part. Not every movie has to be "good" or whatever the percieved notion of good is; to be enjoyed or memorable. Style and heart go a long way and most the Cannon films have it in spades. I have to call anyone suspect if they can't let their hair done and enjoy such fare. Pretense has no place in a Cannon film.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Cannon Years

    by AlbertPyun

    What is getting lost hear is that Cannon was really a Director's company meaning it was driven by director's instead of business decisions. Menahem had an open door where a director (or producer or star) could make passionate arguments about the film they wanted to make and on the spot Menahem would say "Go! Go make your movie" and just like that it would happen. That's a pretty remarkable situation that just doesn't exist today. And if you needed more funds for music or effects, he would just say "okay! if you need it, then you have it!". The problem was they were highly leveraged and dependent on the Milken junk bond market and they did not have a very good middle management. As times got tough, it became more difficult. They had a number of rich long term deals to service and every which way they turned after the collapse of the junk bond market was met with financial sharks out for whatever blood was left. I was with them in that dark day in October 1987 when the market crashed and I've never been present at a sadder moment. Menahem and Yoram sitting alone in their large office suite and playing backgammon, their faces ashen. But it wasn't always fun there or easy to get a added budget item. Menahem was at one end of the executive suite and Yoram at the other. Yoram was scary. He once threw a stapler at me in a fit of rage - lol. Those were the days! Albert Pyun Facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    RE: albertpyun

    by ZodNotGod

    You are forever in my cool book with "The Sword and the Sorcerer! That poster is in my living room to this day! Love that flick. Make more in the spirit, tone and fun.... Have a good one. I have a great idea for a horror story involving werewolves, get ahold of me!!!!

  • Who the hell said that? No one is saying that only 'art house' movies are quality (at least I'm not) - what I said was when some one uses the term 'cinema', that's what I think of. There are plenty of quaility movies that are mass marketed. I simply don't equate the Cannon films with the term 'cinema' (with apologies to Mr. Pyun - no offense intended). In fact, thanks Mr. Pyun - for giving me and my friends many evenings of entertaining fun! Jesus, Asi - calm down before you have a stroke.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    The Punisher.

    by ZodNotGod

    That would have been the perfect time to cast Stallone as The Punisher. Wonder why that never happened? Instead Dolph gets it...

  • Wearing berets, shades, smoking stinky cigerettes, drinking nasty wine...talking about FILM and THE CINEMA is hushed, holier-than-thou tones...no sense of humor whatsoever. NO ONE here is doing that, but that's my vibe. If someone can't enjoy Cannon films for what they are, and they are what they are, what else is there to say....?

  • Also, there are many many writers actors and directors who got their start in bad, low budget movies. For those of us interested in a certain body of work, it can be quite fascinating to watch the early stuff.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Hipshot Steve James died of Pancreatic cancer over a decade ago.

    by Stalkeye

    Coincidentley, I was watching The Exterminator on Blu-Ray last week as he starred as the protagonist's (John Eastman) Vietnam Vet buddy. Classic Vigilante Flick that trumps dreck like Rolling Thunder and Deathwish 3: Crackdown. Belated Rest in peace Stevie "Kung Fu Joe" James. That being said, Canon has a lot to answer for fucking up sequels like Death Wish 2&3 and Exterminator 2. Hacks!

  • HHMMMM, was that after the piss poor reception from your Captain America Movie, Mr. Pyun? Jus askin.

  • Jus Sayin.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    No Stalkeye, not Cap

    by AlbertPyun

    It wasn't due to Cap which was actually 21st Century and not Cannon. Although I can understand how you might get confused. It had to do with a budget issue and I was not cooperating in the cutting of a budget line item. Albert Pyun facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    Smoklegeezer

    by AlbertPyun

    Cannon had to keep making the films for several reasons, first, they had already pre-sold the titles and spent the money. Second, more films kept the cash flow going. And both Menahem and Yoram really loved movies and making them. I think if they had avoided the bigger budget ones and stayed more genre and low budget, they could have survived longer. But they were swayed by stars and the dreams of being taken more seriously. I made 5 films for Cannon and each was an adventure to make - lol.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    ...

    by ZodNotGod

    That's the thing, few Directors and actors start off with a perfect record. Most start off in turds or at least B movie stuff and its fun to track their progress. It's history in motion.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I'am sharing a talkback with Albert Pyun!

    by ZodNotGod

    BEST TALKBACK EVER!

  • ..as i had mentioned in a previous post. However, I'm not sure if it was Golan or Globus that helmed 21st Century Films. Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing in the cap reference( LMMFAO) for the helluv it.I'll be civil and cease fire from here on. BTW Did you realize that the floor shooting scene from Underworld was "borrowed' from Nemesis?

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    "What they are saying is that Cannon made some turds"

    by AsimovLives

    change "some" to "a fucking lot" and you will be accurate. "I have to call anyone suspect if they can't let their hair done and enjoy such fare" i enjoy farce when it's farce. the canon action movies were more like jokes the filmmakers were not even aware because they lived in the era of dumb, aka, the 80s.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    joaquin_ondamoon

    by AsimovLives

    you know who said that the loudest? that cunt ass fuck sicuv uyall cocksucker. and hreps not alone, the fucking cunts. fuck them all up their fucking asses, the fucking faggots. they are the cocksuckers who really can't appreciate cinema. bashing me for not being able to enjoy a retard stupid souless piece of shit action buillshit crap movie? fuck them up their fucking asses!

  • the movie is nothing special, but it's enjoyable. at least as i remember it. i might even enjoy it more now then at the time. i have been trying to rewatch it for a while now, but no luck. i also remember the movie had an explosive opening scene. literally. as a take that to the other movies of it's ilk, it's quite clever and funny!

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    if i remember correctly, the making of Puyn's CAPTAIN AMERICA movie was both a way to secure the rights for the character from returning to Marvel, and also a financial scheme to make the firm look like it had losses and thus save on taxes, a bit like as seen in Mel Brook's movie THE PRODUCERS.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    albertpyun

    by AsimovLives

    i know a guy who you are his most hated filmmaker. he ahtes you as a filmmaker and your movies without exception. Me, my most hated directors are of the blockbuster ilk, like Michael Hack Bay and Jar Jar Abrams. Guys like you are harmless. you might make a stinker, but there's no hurt in them, you are not ruining any other person's chances, and you will not get filthy rich with subpar movies that insults the intelligence of amoebas. guys like you make movies to survive. i can sympathise with that. this is why, despite my despise for the canon group and it's movies, in the end i can't truly hate them. dreack in low budget filmmaking hardly does the same dammage to modern cinema then the shit in blockbuster scale do. i pity bad low budget movies, but i positively hate bad blockbusters.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    wasn't 21th century associated with canon group in some way?

    by AsimovLives

  • and speaking of Delta Force, my heart breaks that was Lee Marvin's last movie. such an ignobil ending to such a great actor and cinematic legend. from Poink Blank to Delta Force, oh the humanity!!

  • a friend of mine saw that movie on Tv one day, and said it is hillariously bad. i saw a documentary about the making of that movie, and the funniest moment was a days shooting where they are supposed to film a television getting shot. so they aplied sfx pyrotechnics to this small tv to simlate it being shot by a pistol. and the explosive does nothing to the Tv. they kept using stronger and more explosives, and still the tv wouldn't get dammage at all. it was hysterical. Goan just couldnpt believe that shit! the undestructuble little korean TV laughed at explosives, no matter how much they tried!! hysterical!

  • I just IMDB-ed Mr.Pyun's 'Captain America', and was shocked to see so many big names in it! I rented this at Blockbuster on VHS way back when, I don't remember Ronny Cox, Ned Beatty, Darrin McGavin et al - at all. I do remember thinking that it looked like it was shot in Italy. Was that the case? And I see that Mr. Pyun toured with the 'Director's Cut' of that film, as well. Is there any chance we could see a Blu ray, or at least a proper DVD of 'Cap', or are the rights in some sort of limbo due to licensing issues? When I look it upon Amazon it says: "DVD-R Note: This product is manufactured on demand when ordered from Amazon.com." 'Cause that means 'crappy transfer that may or may not play on any DVD player you own", kids. Stay far, far away when you see that stated. I for one would love to own this in either format.

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives

    by AlbertPyun

    Well, I certainly understand your friends feelings. I do feel bad that I'm such a thorn in his side and have upset him so. Hopefully he'll be able to get past my movies in the future as I'm starting to slow down. Likely just have a few more movies left in me (unfortunately for your friend). Albert Pyun Facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    joaquin_ondamoon

    by AlbertPyun

    You can write to curnanpictures@gmail.com about the director's cut which, more importantly, for me, has a uncensored commentary that gives one an inside look into the making of a debacle. We had a number of screenings of my version of Cap around the country this past summer and I think, in the hindsight of nostalgia, people enjoyed it for what it is. Albert Pyun facebook / albert pyun movies

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST

    @ Mr. Pyun - Thank you, sir.

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    I loved 'Nemesis', by the way. Thank you for the information, and thank you for your grace and politeness on this talkback. You are indeed a gentleman. By the way, your bio on IMDB is a hoot. "Unintentionally born in San Diego..." :)

  • Dec. 2, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Didn't those fuckers make SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE?!!!!

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Damn! That's some résumé!

  • Which is available on the Blu-Ray release. Uncut and more detailed.Despite it's age (over 30 Years!) The film still holds up as one of the best vigilante films I have seen. No over-dramatic pretentious scenarios and far from apologetic with it's depiction of NYC at the time both disturbing and tranquil. Classic.

  • Unfortunately, the end results was an egg to the face of Marvel fans. (Cap fans in particular.) When I found out that for the most part, Salinger would not be wearing the costume most of the time throughout the film, I knew this project wouldn't bode well. However, I'm impressed that Pyun managed to snag thespians like Cox,Beatty and McGavin. (Paulin wasn't too bad either.) Oh, and as you may well know, I wasn't crazy about Burton's first Batman Movie either so it's not just Pyun I'm picking on.Atleast he had some original ideas for a B Movie director. If you thought Canon was a turd factory, they pale in comparison to Troma films. They make Canon look like 20th Century Fox. EL FACTO!

  • It's so laughable and should have easily been lampooned on MST3K. Mr. Fantastic before punching Dr.Doom's light's out: "And this one's for being a Jerk"! LMMFAO

  • Dec. 3, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    What I remember about Cannon Films.

    by SnootyBoots

    They made a ton of movies and Golan - Globus were listed as the producers of executive producers on every one of them. There's no way those two could've given each and every movie the attention it deserved. No wonder most of their movies sucked.

  • Dec. 4, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    To Mr. Pyun...

    by lynxpro

    Hi Mr. Pyun, Great to see you here on AICN. I have to ask [and I'm sure I'm being late to the party], wasn't your Captain America film originally supposed to be nearly 3 hours in length? I swear that's what I read in Starlog/Comics Scene back in the day. I just read that the "director's cut" currently being marketed is 13 minutes longer than the studio cut. Isn't that still a bit short of the 3 hour mark? And is the Blu-ray pressed or is it on a BD-R? Thanks for participating here on AICN! And yes, I did enjoy the studio cut. My 14 year old self was really upset when it didn't make it to the theatres after having seen the one-sheet displayed that summer in the theatre halls...

  • Dec. 5, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    To Lynxpro

    by AlbertPyun

    Yeah, my first cut was almost 3 hours long, but the final director's cut I did before the film was taken away from me, was around 123 minutes but the 35mm workprint I had of the cut was in bad shape from the 30 years of storage and too many tape splices to survive. Because the sound was on 35mm fullcoat mag, it also suffered with age. So the version I released had as much as could be transferred without destroying the workprint. You actually see the splices in the director's cut and you can see where edits had been previously made. There is an old saying back in the 35mm days that you can tell how good a film was working by the sound of splices going through the projector. The more shudders of the splices going thru the more problems there was with the movie. I think that rule generally applied. And Cap going thru a projector sounded like a 9.0 earthquake. In fact if the film had enough problems (splices), it would likely break apart and be shredded by the projector. As far as the blu-ray disc, we only had a limited amount of those orders so they are BD-R and not replicated. But I do try to view each personally before shipping to catch any problems. I'm not always successful. Glad you liked which ever version you saw of my Cap as it was really meant to just entertain and be any earth shattering cinema moment. I really loved screening Cap for full houses this past summer because it was gratifying to have people see my cut and enjoy it to some degree (!) My commentary I think illuminates the real heroes and particularly the villains behind the making of the film. The next release will be my widescreen 5.1 version of "Mean Guns" with commentary followed by "Road To Hell". Check in with curnanpictures@gmail.com for updates and information on how to get the movies. Thanks, for your interest. Albert Pyun Facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 5, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Cannon - a final thought

    by AlbertPyun

    I think some here are too harsh on Cannon. Keep in mind that Menahem and Yoram were just two film lovers who got an opportunity thru that love to make many movies. But they were somewhat naive and the movie business is harsh, unforgiving and predatory. I know and hear from hundreds of want to be filmmakers all the time who would have loved to be in Cannon's family of filmmakers. The undoing of Cannon was their childlike outlook on movies, stars, directors and it was really a fan boy based studio which you can tell from the movies made there. It wasn't a very savvy operation and they were used horribly by stars, the talent agencies, crooked middle management and filmmakers (unfortunately myself included). They did the best they could and their biggest fault was in trying to please so many and make people happy. That gave them a lot of pleasure. To say "Go make your movie" was their mantra. Albert Pyun Facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • Dec. 7, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    mr. Pyun

    by eloy

    I´m quite sad to have caught onto this talkback so late-too late for you to actually read this, Í´m sorry to say- but anyway I´ll leave these lines for posterity. I still very clearly remember the day when I went to the theater to watch Cyborg, one of the very first times- if not the very first; I don´t actually remember- I went to the movies all by myself. To this day, your movie remains my all-time favorite post-apocalyptic flick, the very best movie Jean Claude Van-Damme has ever been in, and, overall, one of my all-time favorite movies. As a devoted moviegoer- as devoted as money and time constraints and real life in general allow, anyway- I thank you now and forever. Eloy Ricardo Balderas Salazar.

  • Dec. 8, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Hi Eloy

    by AlbertPyun

    thanks for your memory about Cyborg. Its very gratifying to hear. Did you ever see my Cyborg Director's Cut? Would like to hear your thoughts on that as it differs from the release version in a number of key areas. Also, I have just started shooting on the loose Cyborg sequel called "Cyborg" Rise of the Slingers". We have Terrie Batson and Vince Klyn back in this sort of alternate universe take on the Cyborg world. Hope you will enjoy this movie. Best, Albert Pyun Facebook / albert pyun movies

  • Dec. 14, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Mr. Pyun!

    by eloy

    Hey, sir, wow! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer to my lines, as belatedly in the talkback as I wrote them (as, once again, is the case with this post- it´s my job, doesn´t leave me with much free time, sadly; I´m quitting next April 21st, God willing). You seriously just made my day: the creator of one of my all-time favorite movies just typed to me! It´s great to hear about a new Cyborg Universe movie coming our way and with Klyn in it- the guy scared the fuck out of me that first time I watched him in that chainlink vest beating the hell out of Van Damme in that barren setting and still gives me a rather generous dose of the creeps when I watch it now. Too bad you couldn´t get Van Damme himself; that would have been epic. I´ll be in the lookout for this, you can be sure. You have also given me the very first good reason to sign up for that facebook thing that everyone seems to be so into. Hoping you read these lines, I thank you so much for your time and, above anything else, for your movies God bless youl, Eloy Ricardo Balderas Salazar

  • Dec. 14, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Oh, and by the way

    by eloy

    I´ve not been able yet to get your Director´s cut even though I was well aware of its existence since it also got an article in the site. Looking forward to it, you bet.