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The Beard picks Moriarty to be General Ulysses S Grant in LINCOLN!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... I can't believe that Spielberg has chosen that evil bastard, the bane of my existence... the most degenerate evil s.o.b. that the earth has ever vomitted... wait... mhm... OH. Oh, it's the guy that's playing Moriarty in Guy Ritchie's SHERLOCK HOLMES: GAME OF SHADOWS. That's right, Jared Harris is playing Ulysses S. Grant when he was just a wee General and top ally to the enigmatic Abraham Lincoln! I suppose if the guy that can play Moriarty, he totally has the chops to play Grant. I mean, his father played everyone from Richard The Lionheart to King Arthur and Cromwell to English Bob and Dumbledore... so what do you folks think?
I mean, you have Jared joining Daniel Day Lewis' Lincoln - and a cast of Spielbergian proportions that includes: Bnatter Joseph Gordon-Levitt, former Austinite John Hawkes, Central Texas stars Tommy Lee Jones & Jackie Earle Haley... the brilliant Hal Holbrook & Tim Blake Nelson, along with Bruce McGill, James Spader and the Flying Nun herself, Sally Field! So, y'all excited? Story comes by way of VARIETY!!!
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Just a compliment there, about your beard being good
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Nov. 28, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST
I can hear the cadence on the drums, and the lone bugle call now.
by Kamaji
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really like Harris and the source material is fantastic. Grant= Best US general ever Although, peace to Meade, Sherman and Chamberlain as well. George McClellan can go suck a bag of dicks however.
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I've been reading this site too long...
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I really hope that they've got a compelling script, something that presents these historical figures as people instead of icons, because otherwise, this is just going to be a very boring history lesson on par with Eastwood's Hoover movie.
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It would've been the final, conclusive evidence that he lost his goddamn mind. Not that his personal favorite "City of the Gods" script for Indy IV wasn't evidence enough; anybody read that piece of shit? You'll suddenly be grateful for Lucas' meddling after doing so.
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And if he does - he's catalogued under "Annoying little fuck" somewhere in the back of his mind.
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is it going to be SPR (the technical/visual aspect of the film) meets USA Civil War? not interested really,he is not going to respect the historical accuracy of the events and he will use melodrama in the degree of vomiting.And dont forget the cgi Nort/South american army fighting.
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Get to it, before Daniel Day grows out of the role like Liam did!
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Nov. 28, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST
So I wonder if Daniel Day Lewis is going to put on a whiny Tennessean accent?
by Dr_PepperSpray
The real Abe Lincoln didn't have a deep voice apparently, he was actually someone high-pitched and probably sounded a bit like Ron Paul.
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yes, Spielberg is so boring nowdays
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But you're right...it was kind of a high-pitched voice. Let's hope they use that and not some kind of deep baritone instead.
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It's filming in my hometown right now. I've been on set for some of the shoot. Can't say anything as I had to sign NDAs out the ass, but I will say that this movie is going to be fucking great.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST
When is Burton's production of Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter slated for?
by Brannagins Law
that would be fun if they come out at the same time. get ready for Lincoln on shirts and stovepipe hats galore.
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my gf and her family and I stumbled upon them filming at one of the state buildings..the front lawn was torn up to make it look old and camped on from war. we checked out a fortified black escalade with CA tags that i'm guessing was the Beard's...someone chirped the alarm as we looked at it..i couldn't believe they would drive or fly that vehicle from CA to VA and not just rent another one. ironically my gf's dad looks like Spielberg, and people started looking over at us. he took advantage of it and started pretending to frame shots with his fingers. then some very polite handler of 'Berg's came over and asked if we needed help. we basically giggled and ran away.
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and take names.
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Oh right, they don't do NEWS here anymore... http://www.afr.com/p/george_miller_new_script_q1wYu1EFjLM0cyZa4s97fI Scroll down, it's after the Happy Feet 2 bullshit....
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This information has been readily available to the public for a while.
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http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1213468p1.html
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...since October. It's not unusual for a movie to commence principal photography without all of the major roles completely cast. Depends on the schedule and how long it takes to negotiate an actor's deal. Harris has probably been cast for a while but his deal likely wasn't finalised until now.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST
I suppose Spielberg fancies himself as a Rockwellian chronicler of Americana at this stage of his career.
by justmyluck
Not that I find that vibrant or even interesting cinema, but doing the standards will always sell tickets and popcorn.
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Great to know, I was thinking this was going something that was always going to never come to fruition, psyched to find out it actually has/is!
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of the sons of the confederacy. i'm not a racist or think we should go back to having slaves, but i do appreciate the ideals my forefathers fought for. the confederacy was very similar to these rebel governments that are popping up all over the mid-east. it was taking out against oppression, but the only thing that is taught in schools was it was about slaves, so the little kids don't have to think too hard. i was working in a school once as a tutor, and it took me back when one student referred to the South as the "bad guys." it pisses me off that the confederacy just gets tossed in with rednecks and neo-nazis these days.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST
@Killik "is it going to be SPR (the technical/visual aspect of the film) meets USA Civil War?"
by little_lebowski
No. According to Spielberg, it's going to be a procedural film focused mostly on Lincoln's efforts to put an end to the war and get the Emancipation Proclamation/13th Ammendment passed in the House.
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When southerners try to white wash slavery. It was real. It was horrible and wrong. The South lost bad. Deal with it.
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As for Grant being the best general of the civil war I must disagree. He held the lines in the north but Sherman left a trail of destruction across the south that demoralized the citizenry and took their hearts out of supporting the cause. He was also instumental in rebuilding the south and moved the Dept. Of War to St. Louis (where he and his family are buried) to keep politicians out of running an army. Still a great idea 150 years later.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST
Yay, another "Hey, we're not really monsters after all" movie
by MooseMalloy
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I agree about Sherman, he was the pioneer of psychological warfare.
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I thought he was a great Warhol (I Shot Andy Warhol) and I really like his character on Mad Men. Hopefully he doesn't jump ship to do movies again.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST
Any Jared Harris fans be sure to check out THE WARD commentary --
by MooseMalloy
-- it's just Carpenter and him, mainly talking about acting.
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So let me get this straight - the Confederacy was "taking out against oppression" (whatever that means) by fighting for the right to enslave other human beings? WTF?!!!!
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does anyone know when this starts shooting? This has been one of my most anticipated movies for a long time
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with beard of course
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and i just jizzed. jackie early haley, jared harris, tommy lee jones, hal holbrook, joseph gordon levitt and john hawkes? holy shit
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what was the South fighting for if not for slavery? They got the smackdown they deserved
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Nov. 28, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST
Destined to be another revisionist history piece of schlock
by RogueWarrior65
I have no doubt that this will be a revisionist historical take on Lincoln that once again fails in the attempt to paint conservatives as the root of all evil.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST
coolhandjuke: PUHless, rebels fought against oppression? They didn't look into their backyard to find oppression?
by mistergreen
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LINCOLN is not going to be a war film. It is a political history of how Lincoln had to stock his cabinet with Republicans and Democrats and get them to work together to save the Union. It isn't a war film by any possible stretch. It's a film version of "Team of Rivals". Don't expect much - if ANY - action scenes.
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in most of his posts. But ESPECIALLY this one.
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1. Hawkeye, 2. john proctor, 3. newland archer, 4. Bill "the motherfucking butcher" cutting 5. Daniel Plainview And now Lincoln. As with Gangs, even if the rest of the movie is less than great, DDL will still be amazing.
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Nov. 28, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST
A Monumental momemnt in World Cinema. This movie will be astonishing
by Proman1984
Can't wait!
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Nov. 28, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST
And you know that any casting that includes James Spader shows some real thinking!
by Proman1984
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Thats not.... a joke.... I'm.... honestly... curious.
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I'm sorry, is "liberal Hollywood" the only part of the country that thinks the south was in the wrong during the Civil War? Oh, but Lincoln was a politician and by the Law of Douchebags, any article on the Internet that involves politics in any way will be quickly hi-jacked by some rabid nutjob who's been waiting all day to tell some more people about how much the other party sucks.
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Its all very hush hush, though. No idea who he's playing. A politician of some sort, though. Its on account of his awesome acting ability. And the BEARD. (his, not the director)
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Dayplaying as a PA?
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Nov. 28, 2011, 10:58 p.m. CST
Harry is too fucking fat and lazy to post a goddamn headshot. But not too lazy to confuse us with his poor grasp of English and grammar.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Way to sell yourself, sellout!
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...the guy looks like a circus freak. He probably was a brilliant politician. I think that's what's wrong with the country today. Ugly, brilliant fucks don't stand a chance in getting elected so we're stuck with photogenic drones that wouldn't know an original thought if you handed it to then notarized. With his looks, Lincoln couldn't even get nominated today.
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Nov. 29, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST
I should get this out of the way before the WAR HORSE threads - RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (restored?)
by justmyluck
More interesting to Spielberg fans than LINCOLN? Maybe so! This is somewhat tech-y, so maybe not! As everyone who's seen it this way knows: you have to experience RAIDERS in a somewhat large and crowded theater, or you don't completely *get it*. The venue is everything and, for the recent digital exhibition I attended, it was treated as a special event-premiere-whatever. They gave it a massive screen, Dolby 7.1 equipped auditorium with 500+ seats (most filled). It was presented as DCP 2K (not 4K projection). It seems even the 8K-mastered BEN HUR gets distributed to exhibitors this way. Chicago's MUSIC BOX had the first commercial run of the RAIDERS *30th anniversary restoration* until last week, I believe, and it would be interesting to hear any confirmation/dissent on the *restoration* matter. It's important to note that if RAIDERS has been *restored*, it seems to be Paramount's idea of a 4K restoration -- OVERSCAN AN INTERPOSITIVE. It must have been an I.P., because its old dupey dissolves were still CUT IN. I'm not talking about the *globe trotting red line* optical dissolves, I mean all the regular cross dissolves. So, the film negative was not sourced and I'm pretty sure this could only be from the supposed 4K master (due to the fully intact 80s-era film grain on a near 50-foot screen). Please do correct if 4K DCPs are making the rounds (to LIEMAX Digital, for instance) or actual FILM PRINTS (from 4K recorders). I'm not complaining, as this was the best I've ever seen RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. Not one bit of dust and, again, the original film grain INTACT. It was interesting how I'd been conditioned to expect the image to get crappy before specific reel changes - that's all gone. I never did see RAIDERS released in 70mm, although I am *certain* this 2K DLP looked much better than any 35mm blow-up. It could have looked much better with a proper restoration from the negative, especially for some low light character moments which dropped into blackness. The audio was clear but harsh, and it wasn't the venue (I've seen other premieres there). It felt like the sound was sourced from the 35mm Dolby Surround mix, but it was definitely in *some form* of surround (evident in Marion's swarming by the mummies in The Well of the Souls). To address the big questions: - Is it still called simply RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? Yes. - Are the protective glass reflections in The Well of the Souls removed? I'd say yes, as I was looking intensely in the affected areas and didn't see any. - Is the 'NAZI truck cliff drop' CGI? It still looked strobic and blue-screeny, so I'd say No. - Does Belloq still inhale that Tunisian fly? Yes! This was interesting: when I saw RAIDERS multiple times in 1981, one bit didn't register (with me or the audiences). It was the smitten/frustrated male archaeology student leaving Indy an apple. In the 2011 screening, it was one of the biggest laughs and a big insight into changes in public perceptions. The theatrical experience really brought home the reasons RAIDERS worked so well. It was trying to break the James Bond mold. Spielberg had something big to prove after 1941. Karen Allen is the perfect spunky heroine and lights up the screen when she smiles. The action was designed not as a series of set pieces, but more as a comprehensive action vehicle which continues accelerating until Indy gives up, to be saved by spectacular Deus Ex Machina (which avoided being cheesy through horror). This may sound obvious, but having two leads who are somewhat youthful and sexy is also a big asset for audience engagement (those frumpy family arguments were not an asset for TKOTCS). Bottom line: the best RAIDERS has ever looked, though maybe not sounded, and worth paying to see in digital exhibition, especially in a larger venue.
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Because he sucks on the other site.
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As someone related to Grant, I would have liked my input on this...I mean, he doesn't even look like the guy! Haha. But no, seriously. http://batstud.blogspot.com/
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The first true Conservative was Calvin Coolidge.
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Mostly extra work with the possibility of coming on as a PA. I found out I have some friends working on set and as soon as I'm done with classes for the semester I'm shooting for an internship at the very least. Coolest thing I've ever done, this shit has been incredible.
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John Ford's sentimental piece of tosh called Young Mr Lincoln. Even Henry Fonda couldn't save that piece of candy-coated rubbish. Awful movie. Hope Stevie boy does a better, more rational and even-sided appoach. We don't a gee-shucks, St. Abraham caricature.
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While I never got a chance to talk to The Beard myself, I know a few guys that did. He's apparently a great guy. Very polite and personable, and apparently as long as he's not in the middle of framing a shot or something, you can basically just walk up to him and shoot the shit.
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Yeah my friend said he and the Beard had some amazing conversations. Sadly, we haven't been able to get into details just yet, but I hope too soon before he forgets them. I told him he needed to go on set with one of those micro pen recorders in his pocket to record every tip and bit of advice Spiels was giving him.
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Nov. 29, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST
If You Don't Defeat the Rebels I WILL drink your milkshake!
by frakthetoasters
Lincoln could say that to Grant. It's possible. And there'd better be some war in this film otherwise it will be a whole bunch of historical people talking to each other. And Sally Field going mental.
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Right on, brother.
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He was a beef of a man, and Harris is tiny. Regardless he has the chops to pull it off. We're lucky with the Bearded One directing that it wasn't Shia TheBeef.
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Grant was 5' 8" and weighed only 135 during the war. He was skinny as hell. What are you talking about?
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Nov. 29, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST
Of course the south was in the wrong with regard to slavery but
by frank
northerners had owned slaves as well, and in fact slavery continued to a small degree in parts of the north right up until the time of the civil war. Furthermore, essentially everyone during that era was a massive, virulent racist, including Lincoln himself. The south was more reluctant to give up slavery because they were much more economically dependent on the institution than the north was. It’s idiotic to think that northerners were somehow innately morally superior to southerners. The US civil war was a complicated and tragic affair, and in real life there are no such things as ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys.’
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would have just followed Lincoln's orders--our bloodiest war--would have been over before it really began. Grant wasn't a genius, but at least he had the balls to--you know--fight. He was also one our shittiest Presidents--but that's for another film. Good casting I guess--or at the least, he is a good actor. News of this film seems all over the map for me. Not sure what to make of it.
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but I would imagine everyone on that set wasn't in the greatest of moods. Have heard that he is usually really fun to work for.
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What's the name of your friend on set? Curious to know if I've met him.
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i freed WHAT?@!?!??!?!?!
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Nov. 29, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST
PS: Lincoln suspended the Constitution and held US Citizens as prisoners of war to prevent seccession of more states.
by Arcadian Del Sol
He had is own gitmo bases for people who he suspected supported the South - no legal process, no charges - just arrested by the Army and held without appeal. he's the worst president we've ever had.
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I'd actually rather not say here, just for his protection and mine (The Beard's goons are everywhere!). But he's in his 40s I think and came up from Charlotte. He was up there shooting the first week of November.
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Damn, that's when I was on set! Well, end of first/beginning of second. Actually got called today to come in next week as well. If you'd like, my twitter tag is @shutuptres and you can message it to me (not trying to pry, just very curious at this point) privately and such. If not, totally understand, no worries.
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He did what he had to do to save the Country. I'm as liberal as they come, but even after 911 I was in Bush's corner in the aftermath. We elect our leaders to make the tough calls (even the unconstitutional ones). As a leader--you do what you have to do and then let the courts decide later (as well as the court of public opinion) if you went too far. FDR with the internment of Japanese Americans is another great example of this. After Pearl Harbor--we didn't know the extent of Japan's reach into our Homeland. What he did was absolutely unconstitutional and illegal--it was also absolutely necessary.
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and then I remembered there were Sherlock Holmes movies and you were probably talking about that dude. Jared Harris used to bother me, I don't even remember why, but I got over it.
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He said he was in a state of rage while shooting that film, asshole. Funny how when shooting lighter fare he seems to be a great guy. Grow a frontal lobe and shut the fuck up.
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It wasn't "absolutely neccessary" to lock up thousands of people because they were Japanese during WWII. Just when I thought you couldn't be more of a shit-brain...
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One of my friends got a co-op position working on this movie. I just keep getting more and more jealous that she gets to work around these insane levels of talent.
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Nov. 30, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST
The Beard is using an off-Broadway Lincoln play as basis
by HypeEndsHere
youtube.com/watch?v=HtIy5XnTHpE FACT!!
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Didn't get your yearly blow job from your fat wife? Masturbate and calm the fuck down.
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Think. We are a nation of free peoples. From everywhere. That is our greatest strength. It's also our greatest weakness. Every group of these people might one day inflict a horrible scar on the nation. I'm Jewish. It's possible one day Israel will do something that is an act of absolute evil towards the US. Shouldn't I at least be questioned? I have dual citizenship. You bet I should. Gays, Muslims, White Christians, Japanese Americans, Southerners, African Americans, and on and on and on. We all have our history, our allegiances, and our loyalties. The hope is that the leaders we elect will investigate us--screw us out of our rights after an attack--and then put things back to normal. Since we are a free, gigantic melting pot--this is the only way we can survive. Last example--if you did something horrible against America--every retarded person in a 4 state radius would have to be rounded up and interrogated. It's only fair. P.S. My friend's sister was fired by the Beard from the List set in Poland for her making a joke about a damn bagel. He admitted he was wrong months later and called himself a dick according to her.
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Nov. 30, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST
Yes, he has said publically that he was in a "state of rage" while making the film.
by Apocalypse_Pooh
As in "about to snap" the entire time. As in it explains why he was "a dick" while making the film. He went off on the costume designer for delivering Nazi Stormtrooper rain gear, saying they looked like "raincoats from the fucking GAP!" When the designer protested that she didn't think she had the budget to deliver more authentic-looking Nazi gear, he told her she should have come to him and let him worry about the budget. And he later calmed down, and then apologized to her. Your friend's sister's story is nothing special. Spielberg's anger and intensity while shooting Schindler's is well known. I think Premiere Magazine scooped your breaking news about Spielberg being angry on the set of Schindler's List by about - what - 18 years? Thanks for the report, Murrow.
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You're a snotty little bitch, I'll give you that. Fit right in around here.
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And the only reason the Supreme Court acquiesced to FDR's illegal internment of thousands of US Citizens based on their heritage is because FDR seriously threatened to add five more justices to the Supreme Court unless they supported his New Deal policies (which they had previously ruled unconstitutional). When he began steps to pack the court, the court reversed itself and became FDR's lap dog. It's called the "Switch in Time that Saved Nine". Look it up. When the US Citizens sued over their internment, the Chief Justice ruled against them saying that in dangerous times they must listen to the military who know more about such matters than judges. Not making it up. Go read the opinion.
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Not sure why you are telling me what I already knew...but ok, fine. Like I said--he and other Presidents did what they had to do. And as far as the New Deal--again, he did what he had to do to stop people from starving to death in the streets. Was it socialism? You bet it is. It worked too, and still does--yet people on the right want to dismantle it so Hoovervilles can make their appearance again.
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"Like I said--he and other Presidents did what they had to do." No - Roosevelt didn't HAVE to inter thousands of American citizens because they were of Japanese descent. He just DID, against the rule of law, against the Constitution, against basic fundamental human decency. Did what he had to do...give me a break.
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The Japanese at the time worshiped a man as a God. They were fanatics to the nth degree. The US had no clue as to how long Pearl Harbor had been in the planning stages and how deep the attack against US soil was went. They could have imbedded the US with an entire army of sleeper cell terrorists for God's sake. He wasn't going to find out the hard way that he was wrong for the sake of even our founding documents. He did what he had to do.
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Dec. 2, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST
and once he found out that the Japanese Americans were no threat
by proevad
He freed them. Many of them went into the European theater afterwards and actually fought and died for us. One of them interred and who served became a US Senator--and still is (Hawaii) I believe.
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