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PROMETHEUS Pics Hit EW, And They Are... Interesting?
Beaks here...
We know Entertainment Weekly is a haven for shitty photoshopping (remember that atrocious AVENGERS cover?), so let's not judge the above image too harshly. Going off the footage I saw at Comic Con, the film's lighting is far more muted (i.e. closer to the original ALIEN) than what we're seeing here. I understand why studios debut pictures in EW, but is the inevitable bad buzz worth it? I'm sure Vanity Fair would be thrilled to premiere something like this.
As should be obvious from the watermarks, Bloody-Disgusting has all of the pics, and they give us a basic sense of how Ridley's tweaked the ALIEN aesthetic (with an assist from H.R. Giger). That PROMETHEUS is more about discovering the origin of life on Earth - which then ties into the ALIEN universe somehow - is intriguing, Despite the shitty quality of these images, I'm still very excited for this film.
PROMETHEUS hits theaters June 8th, 2012.
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Really stoked to see this!
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Can't wait!
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Nov 22, 2011 10:20:31 PM CST
God created man in His own image..Genesis 1:27...The GENES of ISIS 1:27...So are the Space Jockeys the Gods who created man?
by darth_kong
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give us a trailer already!
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I expect the production design to be spectacular. I just hope the script is great. The characters need to be up to scratch, like the ones in the original ALIEN or in THE THING.
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and from organic,alien eggs we go to metalic,bullet-shaped boxes.sigh.BUT we got to "finally" learn what was with the derelict and the Jokey.yeah.
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Eeeeeewwwwwwww
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrfualW_UEw
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Nov 22, 2011 10:27:18 PM CST
Love that Bloody Disgusting put their watermark on someone else's copyrighted material
by toe jam
But this looks pretty interesting. I'm a sucker for any "origin of life" themes, and Ridley Scott is one of the greats. So I expect this will be awesome regardless of whether it ties in to "Alien."
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bloody disgusting had linked to it; not sure if the source has been pulled yet, though. you couldn't see much of anything, but it looked intriguing nonetheless. definitely looking forward to this one.
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no sound, bad quality and all. Movie's due next year and outside of alien fandom, i dont think anyone knows about this production.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5TajZYW6Y
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I mean...I love the cast but...no.
Yeah...
...um...
...no.
Hmmm...
...damn, I don't know.
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Nov 22, 2011 10:36:41 PM CST
I love it when i can notice the make-up in the token-female's cheeks.
by killik
ah,Hollywood with your big budget,"serious" genre movies.at least she will kick more ass than the token-chick from the Thing remake.right?
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Nov 22, 2011 10:43:04 PM CST
I wonder how many bread crumbs from the Shadow 19 script made it into Prometheus if any?
by darth_kong
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Nov 22, 2011 10:49:32 PM CST
Interested, but will skip the 3D (low light and 3d are a bad combo IMHO))
by simpsonian
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So it’s got that going for it.
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Everything these days is sanitized and squeaky clean. Pisses me off. In real life I'm something of a germophobe, but I'm a weird kid. Real life is dirty, and movies ought to reflect that more. Get some blood and dirt and grime on those actors' faces, stat. And dammit, why are they all baby faced youngsters? Can we get anyone in these major blockbusters who's old enough to grow some pubes? Fuck. This shouldn't be that difficult. Movies are hard enough to make as is, why fuck them up more with this WB horseshit?
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And that image contained elements pasted from images culled from other films/promotional images.
Wow, that's some bad photoshop in that top image. I know it's probably already been said 1000 times by now (but oddly not at bloody disgusting.... deleted comments? or just lower IQ at that site? which is it?) but that's some BAD bad photoshop.
Still VERY MUCH looking forward to this, and obviously do not blame Scott or anyone in the production of the film itself. -
Ridley Scott returning to sci-fi is the stuff geek dreams are made of. The giant head alone should be enough to make everyone here excited. I mean, just look at how creepy and bizarre that is! Really really intriguing.
And clearly, the photoshopped pictures aren't an accurate representation of what the actual film is going to look like. Everyone needs to stop being a cynic and actually think about how awesome it is that a movie like this is being made for us fans.
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Nov 22, 2011 10:59:29 PM CST
I like the Weyland-Yutani-like logo on Idris Elba's grey t-shirt and those Ron Cobb-like graphics on the ceiling behind Theron are cool too.
by darth_kong
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if it will be marketed at all as an ALIEN affiliate when the trailers start a coming???
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Nov 22, 2011 11:11:50 PM CST
What, is Bloody Disgusting the only one that can scan images from magazines?
by d.vader
So they have to put their own watermark on it? That's absurd.
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Nov 22, 2011 11:12:14 PM CST
Alien DNA. The Genes of Isis. A company logo with Egyptian-Babylonian-Sumerian wings. Hmmm......
by darth_kong
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Nov 22, 2011 11:28:40 PM CST
I can't tell but it looks like they have on their Breast-Plates a logo with a rising sun. So now, where's the TWO SNAKES in EQUILIBRIUM?
by darth_kong
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Nov 22, 2011 11:28:52 PM CST
Others beat me to it re: Bloody Disgusting watermarking EW scans
by wookie_weed
It's as bad as AICN reporting on another website reporting on a magazine spread.
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Seriously, look at the cast, they're all babes and hunks.
It's the best thing about Alien... everyone looks like a normal person. Even Weaver in her underwear. I bet no one in Prometheus has a Dallas-beard, either. -
Guy Pearce plays Daniel Jackson's great grandson.
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Nov 22, 2011 11:33:37 PM CST
Space Jockeys made humans. Space Jockeys also make aliens.
by tallboy6t6
There's your big mystery right there.
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Nov 22, 2011 11:33:57 PM CST
I mean Jesus Christ, it's right in your face. Entering a TEMPLE with URNS wearing BREAST-PLATES. Am I the only one seeing this?
by darth_kong
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Nov 22, 2011 11:35:01 PM CST
I'm just trolling by the way, i'm really looking forward to Prometheus
by wookie_weed
It'll make up for Alien 3, 4, and the Predator crossovers.
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If this is set before the first Alien film, how comes the costumes are more advanced. Would've been nice to have the small details taken care of!
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You saw the comic con trailer? And it was not colored like this?
I thought these magazine pictures looked too stark as well.
But then I thought - The grabs from the comic con trailer don't look that way.
The new horrid leaked cel phone grab doesn't look that way.
And then I remembered how Ridley said he will have to grit his teeth and film
it too bright so that they can lower the brightness in post.
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-- just kidding, it's going to be great.
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Nov 22, 2011 11:49:17 PM CST
And yes the top image especially looks Photoshopped!
by mentaldominance
Look at Fassbender's head - look at all their heads.
The shit looks doctored.
IF SO, WHY?
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Nov 22, 2011 11:51:56 PM CST
The thing about ALIEN was that none of the cast was especially hot looking or groomed.
by justmyluck
Whereas that EW pic seems to have 'shopped 8x10 promo headshots on spacesuits.
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And I love it. Well, not the first image which looks horribly amateur, but the other pics look sweet. Can't wait for a trailer of any kind on this one.
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Nov 22, 2011 11:54:39 PM CST
And if you look at the other picture with the head you can just make out two slightly curved pillars. There's your TWIN PILLARS of HERCULES or JACHIN and BOAZ.
by darth_kong
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Nov 22, 2011 11:57:35 PM CST
The reason the suits look more advanced in the prequel is simple...
by karl hungus
Nostromo was like an old beat-up truck with low-income blue collar workers behind the wheel. Prometheus is probably the cream of the crop, the jewel of the fleet and the best ship that money (and Weyland) can buy.
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Nov 23, 2011 12:00:30 AM CST
If that BIOMECHANOID in the leaked trailer is SERPENT in design then it all makes sense.
by darth_kong
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going to be better than A1,A2.FACT.
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Oh fuck. Are you kidding? Shit fuck son of a bitch. You aren't kidding. How the fuck did Lindelof get involved in this? FUCK. Now he's going to fuck up Aliens too? Fuuuuuuccccccccckkkk.
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Really going to be happy with the last 15 minutes.
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Nov 23, 2011 12:31:27 AM CST
lol it looks like Fassbender's head's about to fall off.
by wookie_weed
The Communist Party of China doctors better fake propaganda photographs than EW, and they do it with 1960s Soviet technology.
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Nov 23, 2011 12:34:51 AM CST
Remember what happened to all the people on Easter Island? The island with the GIANT STONE HEADS? One researcher suggested that they were all EATEN by Giants? Hmmm......
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 12:38:10 AM CST
I'm a bit curious to see, if any, how much Ridley will steal from 2001.
by darth_kong
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Ridley Scott admitted at Comic-Con he's shooting for both ratings. I mean seriously, if they go with the PG-13 version, they may as well stop working on the film and destroy everything with fire.
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This movie has me worried. REALLY worried. Hopefully it is a great film because just good WON'T be good enough.
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http://bit.ly/tpVQZV
He also said at Comic-Con he's still shooting scenes for an R-rating version, but everything he said sounds like FOX is pushing for the PG-13.
Alien and Aliens were both R. All the other films were R, except for Anderson's critically acclaimed AvP.
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Where an old guy keeps the aliens in a barn. It'll be awesome.
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let me guess.an alien bursts from the Jokey's chest while piloting the alien spaceship with the eggs,then the alien spaceship crash lands in LV426 and the warning beacon starts emitting.
And all that thanx to the heroic female protagonist who saves our planet by breaking an egg and letting loose a facehugger in the spaceship.She also informs the Company about the location of the crash landed ship,which explains how the Company knew about the derelict and the alien in the first Alien movie.
That spaceship was traveling towards Earth with the purpose to drop all those eggs there so that they could infect the human population and annihilate it in a matter of days.
You see the Jokers had created the humans but they also had created the aliens.and seeing how pathetic and weak the humans turned out to be (or an evolving threat to them) ,they decided to eradicate them and replace them with the perfect killing machines: the aliens.
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Everyone, in both pics, and no one more so than Theron. Come on, Scott, don't tell us you've whiffed on that basic rule. Don't give us something pretty and empty.
If Scott hadn't been making crap for so long - and I include Gladiator in that, a deeply stupid, cliched wreck - I'd be more optimistic about this. I hope I'm wrong and that revisiting this material is bringing a new (old) level of inspiration. I would love for this to be a slice of movie magic that dazzles me.
But look at movie history. Realistically, what are the odds that going back to Alien & Blade Runner-ville are going to produce anything of value? Very, very low. We've been burned too many times. -
That may be what Ridley's saying when he says Alien fans will be happy with the last 15 minutes. Anyone under the age of 15 will have to leave the cinema when the last 15 minutes begins.
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Nope, huge box office hits.
So what the fuck is FOX smoking to want a PG-13 Prometheus?
Ridley Scott filming two ratings at the same time just doesn't bode well. It's either 100% one way, or no filming at all. And I'm sure as hell not waiting for an R-rated Bluray -- give us an R-rated Prometheus in cinemas, Ridley.
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lol, like i haven't posted about it. :-P
Yeah, the good-looking cast doesn't do it for me. Alien felt like I was watching real people in space -- the Prometheus cast makes me feel like I'm watching good-looking actors playing make-believe. That's a big problem.
Shit, I sound like a hater, which i'm not. I'm still looking forward to Prometheus, and I'm hoping it brings back the magic of Alien. I've just got major worries at the way FOX is getting their way -- reminds me of Alien 3. -
This is how it works, people; the watermarks show you that BD got the scoop early, even if they're only magazine scans. People will be now aware that BD is fast to get interesting news, which should increase their profile and in theory their traffic. It makes sense, right?
The pics look good, more colourful and not as 'realistic' as Alien, but still, promising. -
Nov 23, 2011 1:01:45 AM CST
In case Yaphet Kotto, John Hurt, Harry Dean Stanton are reading this...
by wookie_weed
... I think you're good-looking! But you know what I mean about Prometheus's good-looking cast. ;-)
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
pg-13,young studs in the cast,a token-female who looks like she came out from a beauty shop,the clean,sterilized environment,space suits which are too advanced for the sole purpose to look cool and so on.
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Nov 23, 2011 1:04:21 AM CST
wookie_weed - Have you ever seen Harry Dean Stanton in the flesh? Your fucking crazy.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 1:08:45 AM CST
wookie_weed - There sure is something in Harry Dean Stanton's face and it ain't character. It's 4:20 BABY.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 1:09:51 AM CST
I wonder if Theron's a little insulted by all the cold-hearted bitch roles she's getting lately
by wookie_weed
The evil queen in that snow white movie, a corporate bitch in prometheus... something her agent isn't telling her?
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"Get away from her you... monster!"
Not to mention Hudson wouldn't speak a single word, and Bishop would be torn apart out of sight in a cupboard like C3-PO in Empire Strikes Back. -
Nov 23, 2011 1:16:32 AM CST
it looks exactly like lost in space with joey from friends...
by daniccus
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(not BD) http://www.PrometheusNews.net
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btw for the latest news and updates on Prometheus, visit http://www.PrometheusNews.net
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and they look great...everyone needs to ditch their aintitcool fanboy cynicism...your membership won't be revoked...you don't have to hate everything
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Then why do they deserved to be watermarked?
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Nov 23, 2011 1:25:55 AM CST
I remember when I first saw the Phantom Menace pics and how cool they were. I sat down in the theater and watched SESAME STREET in SPACE.
by darth_kong
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I liked the Phantom Menace :)
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Nov 23, 2011 1:31:18 AM CST
Where are the NERDS and GEEKS around here dissecting the pictures? I'm the dumbest person on this site and I can see a few. Seriously.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 1:33:35 AM CST
I mean Judas Priest, an R rating, an X rating, a XXX rating, and not even Ron Jeremy could have saved Alien 3.
by darth_kong
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You sound like a cry baby. First... AICN repo's the pics that Bloody Disgusting put up first... then goes on to complain about the quality of the images.
Too bad 20th Century just didn't hand you guys over your own amazing images. Boo hoo. It's as if AICN is a second rate wanna be film site that wishes it could have it's own nice and clean images - but instead has to grab scanned images from a magazine to look like they are cool.
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I think you've got to keep in mind that the crew of the Nostromo were, blue collar, wage jockeys, who had long since got over the novelty of space travel, dressed in utility clothes doing a boring job. These characters, from what has been released, are professional scientists on a no doubt generously funded mission, back at the beginning of outer space exploration.
I think the difference in the appearance between them and the crew of the Nostromo is 100% intentional, if you think about it. -
Nov 23, 2011 1:35:50 AM CST
TR Alien3 has a lot of flaws. AssembleCut A3 is tons better, characters are better fleshed out
by prometheusnews
www.PrometheusNews.net
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Nov 23, 2011 1:35:58 AM CST
prometheusnews - How can I get my hands on a Charlize Theron HAIR DOLL. I'm not paying for it, I want it for FREE it's all based on PRINCIPLE.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 1:38:31 AM CST
For fine quality Charlize hair dolls, visit us at >> PrometheusNews dot Net
by prometheusnews
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none of these are from footage...they are designed for EW...so relax with the negativity...wait till the teaser...then judge...how many true footage grabs have you all ever seen in Entertainment Weekly?? I've yet to see one
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Actually don't know where the bitchin is coming from. I haven't analyzed the photos too much myself
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lots of negativity...except we always hear about how 3D films are too dark...yet these pics seem too bright to a lot of people...maybe Ridley realized the 3D darkness issues and shot everything a stop or 2 brighter?? honestly...you can knock Ridley for plot points but has he ever delivered a bad looking film?? NOPE!!! so quit whining about the look because everything he shoots ends up looking perfect
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Nov 23, 2011 1:56:30 AM CST
They are amazing. Better than the standard low-res cam images we had to live by for months >> PrometheusNews dot Net
by prometheusnews
If you want to see said cam images, go to my site and hit "GALLERY"
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we get it bro...you've been tagging your site everywhere...we all know about it...relax
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Get with it, Giger.
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Nov 23, 2011 2:00:27 AM CST
prometheusnews - I swear to god, one more time and I'll only go to Christian Fowler's site.
by darth_kong
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PrometheusNews dot Net hurrah
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even though these pics are not at all what the film will look like...still a good indication of design...so someone get that Portuguese maniac here STAT!
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Any questions regarding this movie or the Alien film franchise?
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Nov 23, 2011 2:13:07 AM CST
The characters are better fleshed out in the assembly cut of Alien 3? The 3D version?
by darth_kong
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how come you only have 3 comments on your reporting of this EW story??
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Nov 23, 2011 2:15:30 AM CST
Charles Dance had more character development in that CHEESE-BALL-RUBBISH movie Space Truckers.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 2:17:11 AM CST
Ripley should have died in the EEV crash along with Hicks and Newt.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 2:17:17 AM CST
We're a brand new site, just a little over 3 weeks old. http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/prometheusnews.net
by prometheusnews
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/prometheusnews.net
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Hicks and Newt shouldn't have died, imo.
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Nov 23, 2011 2:20:01 AM CST
prometheusnews - Are you on AUTO-PILOT or does someone have a gun to your head? Just give the word, I'll make the call to the authorities for you.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 2:20:32 AM CST
"our" stuff...and yeah I was just giving you shit
by raskolnikov_was_framed
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this site >>> PrometheusNews dot Net
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especially Newt...most people who complain about Newt dying hated her in Aliens...thought she was just another annoying child actor...mostly
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Nov 23, 2011 2:23:33 AM CST
That's your opinion and that doesn't hold true for the majority of Aliens fans
by prometheusnews
this site >>> PrometheusNews dot Net
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a self-promoting unapologetic cunt...but a cunt regardless
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>>> PrometheusNews dot Net
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Nov 23, 2011 2:25:52 AM CST
Those guys in Ireland with NO MONEY did more creative things with Space Truckers than Alien 3 did. Ripley's story was finished at the end of ALIENS.
by darth_kong
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yes A3 was a mess. But come one now
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Nov 23, 2011 2:27:26 AM CST
Even a XEROX copy of Ripley mixed with xenomorph DNA couldn't help the story in Alien Resurrection.
by darth_kong
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glad to know its not just me.
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this site >>> PrometheusNews dot Net
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Alien 3 actually took some chances and got back to the feeling of the original...the entire Ripley story is about how she can never be happy...how her entire life is defined by the creature and she can never escape it...the Alien trilogy is the antithesis of most trilogies...where the first and third parts are more uplifting and the second part is dark...the Alien trilogy reversed that trend and I love that it did
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christ sake...these are not screen grabs...they are staged glossy shots for a mag...and the sets look great
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...Not deliberately planned out that way. The studio just rolled with whatever thought worked at the time. It's not like say how George Lucas plans his trilogies out from the get go.
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Look. What's a shame is that Alien 3 didn't take more chances.
It comes across as Vanilla Yogurt to me.
There's nothing wrong with Vanilla Yogurt its just there.
I wanted a different Alien 3.
David Fincher should have passed on Alien 3 and he couldn't because of what it meant to his career.
He's no Science Fiction Genius by any means. I do LOVE ME SOME FIGHT CLUB though.
It's still Vanilla Yogurt to me.
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Nov 23, 2011 2:36:11 AM CST
prometheusnews - Jesus Christ, will you login in under a different account?
by darth_kong
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...or rather his sole involvement was having a chat with Scott about the film. He will be credited as a "consultant". He didn't actually design a single fucking thing and that huge head should be a dead giveaway. It's a male head. Giger would never allow a male head! It's sacrilege!
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I actually think Alien 3 was a nobel failure...I think Fincher did a lot right...the rod puppet green screen was a terrible idea...but there were many great performances and it was beautifully shot...the DC was definitely a step up with the whole freeing the Alien storyline...also what I think is the biggest monday morning QB failure is that Resurrection was originally offered to Danny Boyle and he turned it down...how great would this franchise be if the directors were Scott, Cameron, Fincher, and Boyle?? holy shit...Jean Pierre Jeunet is a talented guy...but totally unfit for this universe
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http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/41532/hr-giger-board-alien-prequels
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Nov 23, 2011 2:50:22 AM CST
This AICN page is missing a pic (should be 3 pics)
by prometheusnews_dot_net
3rd pic has Charlize and Idris Elba
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It's all that French Lumiere Slap-Stick comedy with Jeunet that ruined Resurrection for me.
It was like watching an Alien movie through a Nickelodeon.
Did you ever read one of the earliest drafts of Alien Resurrection where at the end of the script I think it's Ripley or Call fights the Newborn on earth with a Harvester that was in the cargo hold of the Betty?
They basically land on earth and the ending is more similar to the ending of ALIENS. The Newborn was even described as being way different than the TRANS-GENDER creature that Gillis and Woodruff designed/built.
Not saying that this ending would have saved Alien Resurrection, it definitely would have cost more, but anything would have been better that flushing the newborn out a window toilet-bowl abortion style which I'm sure was metaphorically done on purpose.
But yeah, Danny Boyle might have been a better choice.
Because there are some designs in Alien Resurrection that I hate.
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Is there going to be a Mass Effect 3 tie in?
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Don't ask me how I know. I just do somehow.
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Nov 23, 2011 2:56:19 AM CST
prometheusnews_dot_net - POUR WATER ALL OVER YOUR COMPUTER. IT MAKES THE CONNECTION SPEED FASTER.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 2:58:24 AM CST
Say that a few more times in the exact wat as you just said it, and I'll try it
by prometheusnews_dot_net
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Nov 23, 2011 3:01:36 AM CST
Jesus Harold P. Esquire Christ. I'm being punished for being a Prometheus fan. This ain't fucking Beetlejuice. You say it THREE TIMES.
by darth_kong
Jesus Harold P. Esquire Christ. I'm being punished for being a Prometheus fan. This ain't fucking Beetlejuice. You say it THREE TIMES.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:04:25 AM CST
prometheusnews_dot_net - Waiting for you to LEAVE is a lot like waiting for the SECOND COMING of Jesus Christ. It's NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!
by darth_kong
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Tim Tebow was the second coming.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:07:40 AM CST
prometheusnews_dot_net - It's like in SCIENTOLOGY how JASON BEGHE talks about being stuck in the perfect THETA TRAP. This has got to be what it feels like.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 3:09:12 AM CST
prometheusnews_dot_net - Anyway, you can find me at Christian Fowler's site.
by darth_kong
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...again. Poor sods, no-one believes in their story anymore.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:25:04 AM CST
I've never seen Christian Fowler SHAKE HIS ASS around here like you have. FOR SHAME.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 3:28:25 AM CST
A 2-year old site VS a 3-week old site. See you soon.
by prometheusnews_dot_net
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Up to date news on Andrew Lloyd Webber's CATS direct-to-blu-ray prequel, the tie-in CG anime series and 3d video game produced by James Cameron and Martin Scorsese. I've seen the game and...I've fallen in madly, deeply and unreasonably love with it, and I hate CATS.
My hate for CATS shouldn't prevent you from liking CATS on Facebook! facebook.com/ifuckinghatecatsfuckyouallpleaseclicklikeforihatecatsatfacebookdotcom -
Thank you for sharing that sweetie.
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is clearly a promo pic taken on set, not a still from the film. Relax everybody.
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Nov 23, 2011 4:46:26 AM CST
I hope the Aliens dont start any trouble, coz Magneto will fuck them up!
by drstrangerlove
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I really miss those Alien Cast types. Real people in "real" Situations. Those days are long gone.
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Nov 23, 2011 4:57:53 AM CST
Is it me or does that Prometheusnews guy hover around like a radioactive cloud?
by drstrangerlove
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both R and PG-13 cuts of a movie when, as in this case, both are being made? Surely some cinemas would be happy to have (late-night?) screenings of the R version, and then we don't have to see a gimped version first and wait forever for the DVD...er, blu-ray. How hard is that?
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those spacesuits look awefully modern compared to the ones in Alien which takes place after it.
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is that the crew of the prometheus get the very best weyland-yutani has in its r&d department. plus all the good looking people.
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man invented god then wrote about how he somehow exists yet we have never seen proof.
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You used to be the man Ridley? What happened.
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http://leckerhamster.deviantart.com/art/Prometheus-270467841
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I'm so......underwhelmed.
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Finally some Prometheus stuff to really sink our teeth into until there is a nice high-res trailer to drool over.
I am going to have to sleep on all this, cause I can't process much of a thought, but let me say, that giant human head statue is very cool looking and definitely Giger-esque. Yes, I know Giger himself might not have designed the head but it looks close enough to me.
Also, those things we saw a while back, that the astronauts are standing amongst... the "urns" as they were referred to back a few months ago in those other leaked pics, I wonder if those hold humans in some suspended state of slumber?
Maybe humans not yet fully grown, but not tiny fetuses either?
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Nov 23, 2011 6:51:22 AM CST
"Newt...most people who complain about Newt dying hated her in Aliens"
by scratchmonkey
People who complain about Newt dying wanted her to survive so that she could spend some quality time in a prison full of paedos, rapists and murderers.
Some people are just weird, I guess. -
Nov 23, 2011 6:51:28 AM CST
wookie_weed - Scott saying "But there will still be naked push-ups" at the comic-con brought back memories of McG talking about Moon Bloodgoods 'boobs' in T4 at wondercon 2009
by cartmanez.
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-fien-print/posts/wondercon-2009-terminator-salvation-rating-hinging-on-moon-bloodgood-s-nudity
similar thing happened with T4 - apparently it was undecided about PG13 or R then we got that pizza hut ad with the little [PG-13] at the bottom left
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"Jean Pierre Jeunet is a talented guy...but totally unfit for this universe."
I feel the same way.
What a wasted opportunity for something grander. I mean for fuck's sake, at its core Alien Resurrection was basically:
The Fly + Frankenstein + The Poseidon Adventure in space with Aliens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jean Pierre Jeunet is too eccentric to really have done what was needed. Basically as Alien 3 was going for the creeping sense of dread vibe of the original Alien, it was apparent that Resurrection should have echoed the action-packed mixed with horror and adrenaline pumping thrills vibe of Aliens.
Also, Alien Resurrection just kind of hangs there for no reason. As controversial and flawed as Alien 3 was, at least it had a point. Ripley dying so as to prevent Weyland Yutani from getting an alien specimen for the bio-weapons division. Alien Resurrection, with the new weird Ripley 8 seemed like it was the start of a new Alien trilogy, which is what should have happened instead of AvP. -
Nov 23, 2011 6:54:17 AM CST
"those spacesuits look awfully modern compared to the ones in Alien which takes place after it."
by scratchmonkey
The officers on board a modern naval vessel have nicer-looking uniforms than guys working on an oil rig or a fishing trawler. That doesn't mean they're somehow anachronistic.
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Nov 23, 2011 7:07:17 AM CST
This film is going to hug face & suck balls. NEXT!
by sigourneyweavers3dbeaver
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Nov 23, 2011 7:09:23 AM CST
I don't really mind the spacesuits looking a little sleeker and cleaner if this crew is better funded, or a science vessel or something like that
by lv_426
Although, I do prefer the clunky bulkier ones that were worn by the Nostromo crew in ALIEN.
The whole sleek non-NASA-ish spacesuit has been done a lot more recently. Big and bulky and battered but functional like in ALIEN looks cooler and more believable to me. -
The guy who leaked the 19 seconds of the trailer says that the trailer starts with a shot of Ripley from ALIEN with the words "what if the beginning was not the beginning".
So it seems the film is a prequel whether the producers will admit it or not. -
they are also are less bulky thus more flexible and comfortable,lighter and easier to wear and move around,more ergonomic with those placed lights in the chest and in the neck.They dont even look like spacesuits.
And you are wrong when you say that the crew in Alien were simply truckers.That is a very degrading generalization.You had a captain,officers,a doctor,a scientist,etc.And they were operating an expensive spaceship with a very valuable cargo.Which means that they were trained and skilled to do this kind of a job.They were important assets for the Company,because they did a very important job for them.
I am not saying that the Nostromo crew should have state of the art equipment but simple truckers,they were not.
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Nov 23, 2011 7:28:04 AM CST
killik, I agree, the Nostromo crew were not a bunch of bumpkins stumbling around out in space
by lv_426
The brilliance of Alien and Aliens, and one of the things that was ignored in Alien 3 and Resurrection, was the whole blue collar average man/woman out there in the void of space fighting for their lives against the aliens. There were no galactic overlords, space princesses, dashing space pirates, or womanizing starship captains like in Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, etc. Alien and Aliens had that extra layer of believability because of the fact that the people we got to watch try and kill the alien(s) looked and acted like normal everyday people that just happened to have extraordinary jobs.
Even the marines in Aliens fit with this notion pretty well I'd say, which meant that they were characters that we could root for. The prisoners in Alien 3, while certainly still people who did hard work in a harsh environment with few handouts, were hard to relate to because they were not only somewhat indistinguishable for some of the audience with their bald heads and brown coats. There was also the sense that we the audience had to really push aside the notion that they are prisoners, rapists and murderers at that, to be able to root for them.
Before that though, we had hard working class people in Alien, and in Aliens the blue collar colonists and marines.
Alien Resurrection just sort of got into silly territory with the mad scientists, Ripley clone, and space pirates. -
Nov 23, 2011 7:34:02 AM CST
lv_426 - Decoding Prometheus pictures. Here's my BREAKDOWN of HIDDEN SYMBOLS in the PRODUCTION DESIGN...
by darth_kong
The Company Science Team are wearing Breast-Plates with the logo similar to the Nostromo "wings" logo and some type of logo that looks like a rising sun?
The Breast-Plates remind me of the Breastplate of Aaron vaguely connected to the twelve signs of the Zodiac except they didn't use twelve jewels. They just put logos on them?
The Giant Head in the room suggests a "temple" motif.
Where are you temples?
There on your HEAD.
The reason I say this is because the TWO CURVED PILLARS in front of the HEAD look similar to the Pillars of Hercules or the Masonic pillars Jachin and Boaz connected to the Temple of King Solomon.
There was other pictures online that showed the two CURVED PILLARS as well. There out there.
The design layout, schematics if you will, of the Temple of King Solomon was a physical representation of the SEX ACT. Simply meaning to GENERATE which is what the "G" in Freemasonry stands for.
I mean, I'm assuming that the URNS or AMPULES contain DNA or GENETIC MATERIAL, I would imagine in the film they somehow generate BIOMECHANOID LIFE.
The whole design feels very subtlety occult in nature.
I mean if PROMETHEUS deals with GODS that's what I see in the design.
Oh yeah the SUN.
Supposedly the voiceover in the LEAKED TRAILER talks about the SUN and there looks like there was a shot of a SERPENT LIKE BIOMECHANOID.
The symbol of the SNAKE in ANCIENT CULTURES represents FIVE things and one of them was the SUN.
Lucifer/Light-bearer - SNAKE
Wisdom - SNAKE
Sun Worship/Energy - SNAKE
Kundalini Force/Fire - SNAKE
Regenerative Principle/Sex Worship - SNAKE
The Five symbols that are connected to the SNAKE symbol are all INTERLOCKING and interchangeable of coarse.
So yeah, it's weird. The whole design feels really OCCULTISH.
So how does the SUN fit into all this along with the PROMETHEAN FIRE?
I really LOVE IT.
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http://www.filmcritic.com/assets_c/2010/02/Dark-City-thumb-560xauto-23724.jpg
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To be honest I'd say that the original Alien isn't 'R' rated by today's standards, so you could still get a damn fine movie.
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Thays all good & well, but the idea of a genetically engineered, bio-mechanical weapon sucks. I much preferred the idea that the Alien...WAS A FUCKING ALIEN. That's the point. And it's (peoduction) design was so believable, it made for the best thought-out horror of the late 20th Century.
Ridley's stripping its mystique away. -
The chestburster, no need to say more. Both the engineers get there heads impolded and all thats not even taking into acount the sheer terror atmosphere that the film has like Dallas when he's in the air ducts, you don't see any blood or anything but the sheer terror that scene invokes would NOT be shown in a PG13 movie.
I honestly hate it when people stick up for companys like FOX, there is no way this film should be PG13. -
Nov 23, 2011 8:01:36 AM CST
lv_426 - Alien 3 and Resurrection and my problem with Fincher...
by darth_kong
I pretty much feel the same way.
Both Alien 3 and Resurrection feel like they are WANTING to be more than they are.
Something feels MISSING from both movies. Like they are not totally complete or fleshed-out.
As far as Fincher is concerned I think he makes great movies about PEOPLE WHO ARE INTROVERTS or SHUT-INS.
David Fincher never got the character of Ripley.
He likes his Fight Club characters and Social Network characters.
I don't see them in an Alien Universe but hey, what do I know. -
even if you edited out the obvious R rated material (chest burster, the F bombs, Brett/Lambert/Park deaths) you would still be left with an R rated film due to the overbearing sense of dread, eerieness, intensity, dark subject matter, the pace, the horrific Giger designs (remember time and numeurous sequels has lessend the horrificness of the Alien/face hugger/derelict designs...those things were terrifying to audiences whod never seen them before)
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Nov 23, 2011 8:13:28 AM CST
Darth_Kong Fair point but Scott hasnt made a decent film for 20 years. Doubt he'll start now.
by sigourneyweavers3dbeaver
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Nov 23, 2011 8:14:45 AM CST
same with Aliens, T1/2, Blade Runner etc - no way they be PG13 today
by cartmanez.
but ALIEN all the more as that (and The Thing) is the most Horror orientated of all the late 70s/80s) SF chillers
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Ridley NEVER shows us where the Space Jockeys or Engineers come from.
That would be my guess.
That MYSTIQUE will probably be left in the movie.
And not so much from WHERE but from WHEN?
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for these horrible fucking pictures. This site has gone to shit. This looks awful. Like a goddamn Stargate sequel (which sucked btw).
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Nov 23, 2011 8:24:37 AM CST
There's one thing I haven't heard anyone mention yet which has me very OPTIMISTIC. Heavy Metal magazine. Ridley loves Heavy Metal magazine and they always have bizarre stories...
by darth_kong
And they influenced Alien and Blade Runner.
I think it's gonna be fun.
The OCCULT symbolism alone should have you excited. -
Nov 23, 2011 8:25:37 AM CST
Those space-jumpsuits are Star Trek: Enterprise bad!
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
Also, everything looks too clean, what happened with the working class spaceship from Alien? Did they have to forego all the grunge in order to match the look of all the CGI? (CGI doesn't do grunge and dirt very well)
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Most of those shots are production stills, no way will the actuall film look as clean and clear as thos shots.
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Yeah i forgot about that one. The terrifying music while seeing the aliens tail slowly rise up between her legs then cut away to the sound of her being raped then gutted over the tannoy, no way in hell would you get that in a PG13 film.
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anyway--or Jeremy Irons. Eat a sammich dude.
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Stop giving away Masonic secrets. We know where you live.
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Nov 23, 2011 8:58:55 AM CST
People who base their moviegoing decisions based on a rating for unreleased films =
by mcgootoo
whiny assed titty babies.
Somehow this has become a new thing to do for people who don't like to think for themselves. Sad, sorry mofos, the lot of ya.
Decided by The ratings decisions always seem arbitrary and inconsistent from film to film anyway. R does not = better, dopes. Fucking hell, 2001 was rated G!!!!!!!!!
Those who complain about ratings just ooze stupidity, right up there with idiots who gauge a film's success not on the film, but how much it made.
What a bunch of pathetic, zombified automatons programmed to puke up the same internet blather, over and over.
Does the story sound like it sucks, not to me, but that seems like a valid point to ponder, that is, if we knew the story, instead of just a few details.
And all this ridiculous negative speculation based on a few photos and story details. But, I guess that is fun for some of you - guess wrongly about the entire film, deem it unworthy, stamp your feet and proclaim-- pass.
Infantile behavior.
You guys just suck all the fun out of anticipation for films.
But have fun being the same babies, over and over!!!!
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Ridley's stripping its mystique away.
Really? You've seen the film?
Since you know, and disapprove, don'r see it.
Whiny speculation does nothing but make you sound like a silly naysayer.
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Stop talking ass. In the last 20 years Ridley made 1492, White Squall, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Matchstick Men, Kingdom of Heaven, American Gangster, Body of Lies, Robin Hood... all of these films are at least good and at best excellent. The people who talk ass on the internet about Ridley Scott not making a 'decent' film in years have obviously not seen anything he;s made since 1992. Idiots.
OK, so G.I. Jane and Hannibal were not good, but that's still a pretty good hit rate over 20 years. -
Hope his influence is on this film too.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
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I like your form of speculation - I can tell you really want to see this!!!!
Cool, me too!!
It holds much promise for another superb deep space with big ideas.
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I don't want to know how the Aliens are involved, and inevitably, someone is going to spoil it for me.
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You are a useless bore, as usual.
Fuck censorship. I hate censorship.
I love well told tales. A film's rating does not rule my predilections.
You are just a silly little nothing.
Moo.
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Nov 23, 2011 9:41:11 AM CST
Come on, guys, you can't always judge a film by its promo photos. Even the original Alien had
by m6y
some WTF promo stills.
Who would have thought the dark and dread-filled and brilliant Alien could be represented by a photo of seven people in pajamas and jackets looking off 'fearfully' to camera right? Well... http://tinyurl.com/d9kobb8
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..is he going the John Hurt route?
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hatedperson is the only one who turns around...
because he knows himself vey well.
He only exists as long as I respond... so.. see ya....dope no more table scraps for you.
Moo.
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They don't release big movies like this anymore with huge box office potential unless they're PG-13 or lower. It's purely a marketing decision and the correct one in that regard.
Look, I'm the biggest fan of Alien and Aliens I know and I wish Prometheus was gonna be R, but IMHO I think they can pull this off as a PG-13. You can get away with quite a bit in a PG/PG-13 movie. I mean, The Lord of the Rings movies are filled with gore. The Jurassic Park movies have quite a bit of scary stuff and gore (even if it's brief).
The classic example of this for me is: Raiders of the Lost Ark. Raiders was rated PG when it came out! I remember seeing it when I was a kid and thinking: how in the hell is this rated PG? I loved it of course, but the list of violent stuff in that film is long (including Indy shooting people in the head, etc.)
Again, I wish Prometheus was gonna be rated R, but if they're clever with it I think they can push hard against the limits of a PG-13 rating and it still be an effective Alien movie. We'll see. But it will be rated PG-13.
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Nov 23, 2011 10:07:26 AM CST
m6y - I can't believe how nasty American Dad and Family Guy are.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 10:11:39 AM CST
The whole Griffin Family makes Private Hudson look like Julie Andrews.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 10:12:58 AM CST
hatedperson is making Private Hudson look like Julie Andrews too.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 10:14:24 AM CST
if its PG13 i will be upset but not to the extent of reaching for the .38 snub nose in the shoe box on the top closet shelf and ending it all
by cartmanez.
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Those 'space' suits look like an excuse for just to show the audience that the actors are in shape. It's 300 in space. Rubber fetishists will have a blast though. -
Nov 23, 2011 10:19:59 AM CST
m6y- your observations are mature and rational about ratings
by mcgootoo
So, hatedperson should be letting you know how much you love censorship soon, since he is the prince of stupidity:
Here is hatedpersons intelligence on display, note that he has nothing to say, except PG-13 sucks and he is either gay or hates women or both, and he loves to say it, over and over, because some people are dumb enough to agree with him, and that is what fuels his infantile stance:
So this is shitty and fucked... First it will be pg-13 then... they have another bitch fucking female lead. With the thing they changed the lead to a whinny bitch, because they wanted something different then the original. In this one they are fucking with Sigourney weaver by casting a young hot actress.... Fuck this shit. Fuck you Hollywood where did your balls go. Looks like a PG-13 suckfest with a CUNT in the lead. _________________________________
chilli mcfreeze You are so Fucking Wrong!!! PG-13 will be a death sentence to this movie.
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mcgootoo likes censorship, because thats all he stands for.
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Just to be clear, I want this film to be amazing. I love Alien and all the sequels except AVP! I want this to be amazing, but ....
with a PG-13 rating and a Sigourney replacement lead I just don't see it happening. If they wanted to go different it should be a male lead, or Bring in Sigourney weaver. She is amazing. I would take her over most male leads any day of the week.
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He must think Sigourney is a man..... poor boy....
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Nov 23, 2011 10:20:50 AM CST
I would be more concerned about how cool is the design of the spaceship Prometheus. What if the design sucks? An "R" rating can't fix that.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 10:47:08 AM CST
there is ABSOLUTE ZERO chance Promethes will be rated R as....
by cartmanez.
-first and foremost they can gross more $ on PG13 rating
-they can release the harder R cut on DVD/BR therefore increasing dvd sales.
-they can kind of get away with abit more these days on a PG13 rating (e.g. Apollo 18 was pretty intense space horror wise)....even an F bomb or two
-Fox has already done a PG13 Alien movie before which ended up the highest grossing film in the series(unadjusted for inflation)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=alien.htm
-Alien/Predator (FOX), Terminator and Die Hard(FOX) have all been PG13 recently so its not entiely a shocking thing now
-Avatar made nearly $3b for Fox....Promethues is half being promoted as another Avatar type movie (as opposed to being a full on Alien prequel)
- and perhaps most telling of all, they havent come out and said 'dont worry it will be R'...which they would do if it was going to be an R. instead they've skirted round the issue saying it hasnt been decided yet, there will be topless scenes, it will be intense/scary etc (just like what happened with Terminator 4):
'Lindelof asked the director, "Is the PG-13 going to inhibit you from telling the story you want to tell?" and Scott responded "No, not at all. I have a responsibility to my studio, but I always make sure we have both options. You’re crazy not to. Tom and I will both look at it and decide what the best way of going. I’ve fundamentally covered our ass. But there will still be naked push-ups." -- the naked push-ups in question being part of the footage shown, a glimpse at Charlize Theron's character. Reading between the lines, this means that, gorier, nuder material is being shot, but don't count on it being part of the theatrical release; an unrated DVD/Blu-Ray will likely surface around Christmas 2012'
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ridley_scott_is_shooting_for_both_an_r-rated_pg-13_cut_of_prometheus
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Nov 23, 2011 10:49:08 AM CST
The only thing that gives me some pause in my enthusaism about PROMETHEUS is that assclown who wrote for LOST also wrote this movie's script.
by asimovlives
Other then that, i'm quite enthusiastic.
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But it's gonna suck and destroy the fabric of society if it is not rated R and has ugggghhhh women in it!!!!
Just kidding....
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Nov 23, 2011 10:56:39 AM CST
If ALIEN had been made today, it would recieve the same rating as The Care Bears Movie
by cartmanez.
FACT
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Nov 23, 2011 11:13:10 AM CST
Asi - That chestburster scene seems like the deal breaker. I don't know.
by darth_kong
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Nov 23, 2011 11:40:38 AM CST
I am also worried about this movie ruining the mystique of Alien
by franks_television
The derelict space craft is probably my favorite thing in Alien, precisely because it is so mysterious and creepy. I really have absolutely no interest in learning all the details and backstory on it, and if that is what Prometheus is about I may even consider not seeing it rather than risking it lessening my enjoyment of one of my all-time favorite movies.
Who am I kidding? There is no way I will be able to avoid seeing this, and it is probably going to be disappointing and it will probably diminish Alien at the same time. Fuck.
I hope I am wrong, but the stakes are just so high with this. My biggest hope is that they just don’t even touch the Alien backstory, though these pics make that seem highly unlikely. What somebody said earlier about the Jockeys creating both humans and xenomorphs is probably (sadly) correct. -
That movie is freaking terrifying, and there is more than enough gore for an R rating. Plus, the people talk like actual humans, meaning that they use swear words.
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Nov 23, 2011 11:47:42 AM CST
First pic is lame. Pretty people with flashlights. 2nd is great
by yeahiluvcheezypoofs
The huge head thing is creepy. Like it.
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I loved the mystery and unanswered questions of 2011.
But 2010, with it's details, did not ruin 2001 for me.
Just go for the ride. in space... no one can hear you worry....
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Nov 23, 2011 12:10:23 PM CST
Glad to see that we have the technology to span the galaxy,
by openthepodbaydoorshal
but flashlights are still flashlights.
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Nov 23, 2011 12:13:44 PM CST
The suggestion of bush and perky nipples on Weaver?
by openthepodbaydoorshal
R......for sure.
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Nov 23, 2011 12:15:19 PM CST
=If this is set before the first Alien film, how comes the costumes are more advanced. =
by billy_d_williams
Uh, maybe because in the first movie they were truckers in space, and truckers tend to have more ragged equipment.
I'll take Common Sense for $500, Alex. -
Nov 23, 2011 1:25:07 PM CST
The face is Tom Cruise. This movie will indoctrinate everyone with Scientology
by bobo_vision
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Nov 23, 2011 1:26:53 PM CST
The face's nose is even broken in the same places as Tom Cruise's nose
by bobo_vision
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Nov 23, 2011 1:47:07 PM CST
Why do people use those stoopid ickle torches, they're about as much use as striking a match.
by drstrangerlove
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pause while exploring the egg storage room and put some lipstick on her lips? i wanna know.
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But we want to watch the goddamn R-Rated movie in the theater.Not in the home cinema,in our living room.
But nobody is going to wait for the superior,unrated version,they all are going to watch the movie in the theaters.So they will get a lesser cinematic experience of what it was meant to be.And that is at least annoying. -
Nov 23, 2011 2:30:15 PM CST
Is there some law against releasing both R and PG13 cuts in cinemas at the same time?
by cartmanez.
if not then if ever there was a time to introduce such a thing itd be for Promethues
kiddies and their parents wanting to see the next Avatar go to the pussy PG13 showing.....fans of A L I E N and cool kidless adults go see the hard R rated version and get scared shitless by the overbearing feeling of dread and horrific gore with the occational F bomb
if it takes off (and i cant see any drawbacks to it) it could also done for The Wolverine and any other movies which logic clearly dicates should be R but the studio want as PG-13 (e.g Die Hard 5, Terminator 5, Mad Max 4 etc) -
Nice. :-)
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Nov 23, 2011 3:01:44 PM CST
Original Alien cast was genius! The new one is great also, but a bit too pretty.
by tradeskilz
I LOVE the original cast for their everyman qualities. They all looked, acted and sounded like what you'd expect from a typical deep space freight crew.
Their where no stupid love triangles, incessant crying for their children back home or long heartfelt letters to mommy. For them it was wheter they'd get a better percentage or salvage pay or how shitty the coffee was. Problems that makes sense in the context.
I just know they're gonna have the protagonist in Prometheus in some long winded scene where he says goodbye to his pregnant wife and sings a lullyby for his unborn child. You know, cause he is all sensetivie like. Not just a tough handsome alpha male.
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fantastic four costumes. surely this has been mentioned? the sci-fi chanel look of those pics does not jive with ken's mental images, alas. i'll still see it, and i'm hopeful. come on scott.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:10:46 PM CST
Studios are slapping PG-13's on more and more formerly R-rated genre flicks for one simple reason: more profits PERIOD!
by stargrove
Face it...Hollywood no longer makes movies for adults. Everything is aimed at kids now, so a PG-13 rating on a tie-in film to Ridley's R-rated Alien doesn't surprise me at all. For example, WB bought the rights to bring "Lobo" to the big screen then hired Guy Ritchie to direct it. Warner insisted on PG-13, blaming the rating for Watchmen's disappointing box office so Ritchie walked. "At the Mountains of Madness" is another instance of studio interference pressuring Del Toro to jettison the R and so, Del Toro is seeing if he can find another studio willing to let him do it as an R. And what about that "BioShock" adaptation Gore Verbinski wants to shoot? Universal Studios acquired the rights and mind bogglingly demands a PG-13 rating. If you have ever played the game you would know that it would be fucking impossible to tone down the macabre violent setting inhabited with enemies that are psychotic babbling mutants and hulking drill-wielding Big Daddies in dive suits mutilating victims to bloody puddles of guts. Universal doesn't give a shit. They just figure its based off a video game and only young children play games so a PG-13 is the only option for success. PG-13 does not immediately indicate whether a movie will suck or not BUT, if it was a studio edict and not an artistic decision than it sure as hell gives us a reason to be extremely skeptical. I just hope Ridley makes his decisions based on what best serves the Alien universe and not on what will placate cigar chompin' out of touch studio honchos. But really, like they give a flying rat fuck what some AICN comments section movie nerd thinks.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:11:59 PM CST
@m6y, unless that campy Alien pic is a still from the film, it's apples and oranges.
by kevred
The point you're making is sound, but not so much the comparison.
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(Shudder.) Or Alien 4, for that matter.
I know what you mean about Prometheus. I feel the same way. Hopefully the real, moving thing will make us feel better.
I want it to be great - there are so few prospects for this kind of thing these days. This being really good could open up some doors for other good stuff. -
Nov 23, 2011 3:20:52 PM CST
Yeah seriously, what is the deal with that serial killer head?
by stargrove
I immediately felt that pic looked really out of place within the "Alienverse". Makes me think a Michael Myers/Jason fiend is gonna be chasing the space crew around the ship corridors throughout the whole damn flick. Ridley must be a big fan of Jason X.
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It's a Rorhshach test- you see a serial killer head.
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Nov 23, 2011 3:29:41 PM CST
Please, someone make a glory hole out of this...http://tinyurl.com/7q2ngqs
by azultool
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Actually when I first saw it I thought: "Hey, it's still a better lookin mug than Diane Keatons".
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Well, la di dah ,la di dah...
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...anatomy to have a high paying gig at EW. "I knows Photoshop! KEWL!"
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Nov 23, 2011 4:43:47 PM CST
@darth_kong "Ripley's story was finished at the end of ALIENS."
by keepyoureyesontheblackboy
FACT.
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and that these few pics and a trailer due in a week or so were all you would know about the movie.
instead we'll all feel like we've seen the film by the time it arrives summer 2012 thanks to a bunch of different trailers, numourous magazine articles and worst of all Internet news/spoliers/pictures/speculations etc
ahh for the time of a few measely photos in Starlog and a trailer -
Just like in the Thing prequel. The original cast was so average looking and believable actors. This Alien prequel looks the same.
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there was a campaign by conservative family groups to clean up television which they saw as becoming increasingly violent. the show they targeted at the time was buffy the vampire slayer.
these were the same people who were shocked and appalled by what clinton in the oval office with monica lewinsky. these people were brilliantly satirized in the simpson as the wont somebody think of the children groups....
When bush came to power these people saw an opportunity to once and for all clean up tv and movies. the family film bill was drafted and signed into law and most controversially of all the fcc was given real teeth. the best example of this was the the janet jackson superbowl incident. mtv was collared by the fcc and to cut out any swearing introduced a time delay. mtv then had to pre record its award show and then edited out any swearing.
The family film bill makes it mandatory by law that all films should have no cursing, no violence, no sex, no nudity. prior to this nc17 was a kiss of death. so this is why you have the growth pg 13 films. -
Nov 23, 2011 5:36:38 PM CST
Didn't know Ridley Scott was remaking Planet of the Vampires.
by kgreene
Kidding. These don't bother me at all.
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any one know whos doing it?
Hated Person - you need therapy, seriously. Its not a joke. I doubt you mysogeny is a joke and it boils over all too easily, do every one a favour before you hurt some one. -
God I hope it's a practical set.
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The issue with censorship is that good and bad TV isn't about what's shown.
You can't censor based on what is shown alone.
Look at Passion of the Christ. I hate the film but seriously, would that film have been as impacting without the violence?
Yet the self titled "Christians" who praised it as wonderful would have no problem censoring a PG or PG-13
film that didn't represent their agenda. Seems they know all too well that it's about agenda, not what's shown!
It's about the viewpoint the director represents.
You can't legislate morality. What about the fact that NBC showed fully uncensored versions of Saving Private Ryan during the holidays?
It's not about violence, it's about when violence is glorified.
It's not about sex either.
It's about the viewpoint of the director and when they preach a viewpoint at us rather than simply observing how life really is.
So called "Christian" art is just as bad, cramming viewpoints down our throat rather than simply telling a good story.
When you force censorship on a film maker who truly has a bad agenda and who's intent is to corrupt society, all you do is
force them to become even more subtle. Now they have to imply things rather than show them and guess what?!?!
THAT MAKES THE MESSAGE EVEN STRONGER!
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Made me beat my ham a lot in my youth.
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alien is cool though so i'll take it.
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Nov 23, 2011 7:12:26 PM CST
"It's not like say how George Lucas plans his trilogies out from the get go." ATTENTION prometheusnews_dot_net
by user897
Dear prometheusnews_dot_net,
YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. George Lucas did NOT plan out a Star Wars trilogy. He barely got the first film released in 1977, and if it weren't for the very talented people that put THEIR creativity and talent into it, it would not have been the huge success that it was, thus opening the door to start preparing a way to lengthen the story into 2 more films. If Star Wars did not do well, then it would have stood on it's own and the story would have been done. Don't for ONE minute think that George had this big outline for multiple trilogies ready to film. It's complete bullshit according to Kurtz and many others that I would believe ANY DAY OF THE WEEK before Lucas and his revisionist horseshit. -
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unlike the gritty realism of Alien.
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I'm not really up to speed on the plot of this. All i know is that it's Scott and something to do with the Alien franchise and that alone gives me a big geekrection.
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Nov 23, 2011 9:18:30 PM CST
Looks like shit. Ridley Scott is an overrated hack. This movie will suck.
by spacehunter3-d
Facts.
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I couldn't agree with you more.
The movie is nothing but TORTURE PORN. AND THE GENTILES LOVE IT!
That movie is nothing more than MIND MANIPULATION. If you watch that you've been manipulated.
From a guy that for years FREQUENTED BARS on Pacific Coast Highway and everyone is shocked when he gets pulled over and arrested and throws around a bunch of anti-jewish remarks at the officer which isn't to different than the kids in Harry Potter casting spells on each other.
Mel Gibson represents what all that garbage is about.
Words and terms and symbols and mind manipulation.
And when people like him, CHRISTIANS, don't have TOTAL CONTROL and TOTAL DOMINATION of your MIND they have a meltdown as the world's seen him do a multiple times.
I mean, PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED AT THE PHONE MESSAGES/RECORDINGS?!
What's the big surprise?
I said COMING FROM THE GUY THAT MADE PASSION of the CHRIST, I WAS EXPECTING MUCH MORE! HE WAS HOLDING BACK!
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Nov 23, 2011 11:16:47 PM CST
@cartmanze: =Wouldn't it be great if Prometheus was out next month?=
by wookie_weed
Totally agree dude. When I saw Aliens, all I'd seen were a couple of magazine spreads. I'd seen Alien of course, so I had an inkling of what to expect.
This EW mess is about as much as I want to know about Prometheus. I wish I hadn't seen the giant stone head (which kind of looks like Guy Pearce, who we haven't seen in any promos yet), it would have been a big surprise.
Oh well. The only way to relive the days of surprises is to turn off the internet and avoid nerd friends. -
......we find out all of humankind is related to Jar Jar Binks.
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couldn't get Del Toro an R-rating for Mountains Of Madness.
It was bad enough watching the Shield for 6 years and not one person ever saying the word "fuck".
Can you imagine Aliens without Hudson's potty mouth? Ripley saying, "Get away from her, you monster!"
Because if Aliens was made today, FOX would force PG-13. It's a sad day for movie fans when Ridley Scott is neutered by conservative lobbyists and is made a eunuch director.
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Maybe Ridley had to make a deal to get the big budget he wanted for Prometheus, and give up the R rating?
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Is the only place online to get substantial news that often times haven't been reported anywhere else. Prometheus-movie and Prometheusnews.net are just copies of each other, reporting the same news everyone else has with no insider scoop. Facts.
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You are an idiot, fact.
The entire film community and anyone with a brain rate Ridley Scott films very high, fact.
This movie is going to be amazing, fact.
Doubters will be judged before Ripley at the pearly gates, maybe a fact.
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Nov 24, 2011 12:14:50 AM CST
The first pic proves the alien gay love script is being filmed
by wookie_weed
Noomi's caught in the middle.
Just trolling. I'm really looking forward to Prometheus -- I just have a bad feeling about the PG-13. And Robin Hood left me underwhelmed. -
I don't have a problem with Mel Gibson at all.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ya know?
I just think Passion of the Christ sucks.
I love all his other films however and am always able to distance what an artist does in his or her
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No one in the film community has a brain. Ripley's butt crack at the pearly gates? interesting thought
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I don't have a problem with Mel Gibson either.
I'm saying people shouldn't be shocked by his behavior.
He's been telling you who he really is for years.
People just choose not to see it until it's right in your face.
I'm saying, what are you shocked or surprised about?
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Nov 24, 2011 1:14:41 AM CST
It's best not to think of this as an Alien prequel...
by lesbianna_winterlude
since no one who made this movie did.
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Nov 24, 2011 1:54:45 AM CST
JaimePraterNews dot Net is the only source of rubbish on the internet. FACT
by prometheusnews_dot_net
JaimePraterNews dot Net is the only source of rubbish on the internet. FACT
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Nov 24, 2011 2:23:09 AM CST
The "prettiness" of the explorers and their lack of helmets makes me wonder if they're all androids...
by burnhollywood
Compare their effete look to the workaday appearance of Theron and Elba.
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Nov 24, 2011 2:37:05 AM CST
PRETTINESS OF THE ACTORS?!?! Are there still people who doubt this crap is Photoshopped?!?!
by mentaldominance
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Although the whole R rating thing may seem a small concession to some it does have a huge emotional impact on a film - especially with language. If an alien is chasing you around a dark ship in space you are going to say "fuck" and "shit" and "motherfuckingshit" multiple times. It grounds the movie in a sense of realism - that's how normal people speak when reacting to seriously fucked up shit happening around them. Anything less takes away from that realism and brings you out of the film.
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Nov 24, 2011 3:05:55 AM CST
OCTOPI USING PHOTOSHOP TO DESTROY PROMETHEUS IS PREDESTINED!!! IT'S NOT AN OPINION IT'S A FACT!!!
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 3:09:06 AM CST
@burnhollywood, the "all androids" theory has been mentioned
by wookie_weed
i sincerely hope it's not the case, it'd be like knowing the twist in The Sixth Sense at the start.
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That's just sad.
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Australia has it, it works brilliantly.
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Ronny's the one who gets busted at the end... and he can't say the f word. Seriously, no "you motherfucking cunt, Vic! Fuck you, you fucking fuckity fuck fuck!"
Considering what Sex & The City got to do, it's fucking bullshit.
So no "fuck" in Prometheus. I guess they can invent a future swear word, "frak" for example.
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He'd be a freaking mime, using sign language.
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We have had our differences before, but what you said about THE PASSION OF CHRIST is the truth. And you made some very astute observations about the inherent failure of censorship. Morality shouldn't be legislized indeed.
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Why cant they release both pg 13 and r rated versions they do it with 3d and 2d then when more people go and watch the r rated version then maybe they will fucking learn something could be a big moment for these stupid studios.
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Nov 24, 2011 6:39:05 AM CST
If i was an Holywood director with the clouth that Ridley Scott has, i'd make a Two-Movies-In-One deal with the studios. I explain:
by asimovlives
I would basically make two diferent versions of the same movies. Make a PG-13 version foer the americna domestic market, and a rated R equivalent for the international market and selected americna theaters. The leater means that the foreign market, which seems less concerned with issues of language and violence (specially in continental western europe.. except Germany), and some limited american theaters which wouldn't mind to show the R rated version.
So, that way, everybody would be happy. The studios would get their precious PG-13 rated movie (hell, they could even edit the thing themselves without my intervention) and i would happilly edit the R rated version to my will without the studios breathing on my neck.
Everybody would win. Then, eventually, the american market could get my director's R rated cut later on DVd/Blu-Ray, just like they do anyway. Again, everybody would win. Me, the studios, the audiences american and abroad, everybody. -
it's like telling a hamster to paint like picasso, not rembrandt. Studios only think of one thing -- how to get as many butts on seats on opening weekend as possible.
Prometheus is a summer release as well, further proof they're thinking about getting as many popcorn munching imbeciles in cinemas as possible.
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But the PG-13 enforcement just sours what could be a perfect return to form for Ridley, and a perfect return to mature storytelling in scifi.
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Nov 24, 2011 7:31:29 AM CST
A friend just asked me what the big deal is if Prometheus is PG-13, not R
by wookie_weed
R means you're getting an edge of suspense to everything, a sense of menace. You don't know how gory the chest burster scene will be, you're on the edge of your seat not knowing whether you should close your eyes, anything can happen. It's like going to sleep knowing that there really could be a monster in the cupboard.
With PG-13, you know the filmmaker has limits, and it's almost like the lights are all turned on and you know there isn't a monster in a cupboard, so you go to sleep without a worry.
To get the director's preferred version of Prometheus, we shouldn't have to wait until the bluray.
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I don't think my plan would hurt the studios. they would still get the movie they want, and besides the studios onpoy think of the americna domestic market, they think the international market is a sideshow (despite the fact it's where most of the money really cames from).
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with my plan, this means that the USa market would still get two versions of the same movie, with the PG-13 rated version opening big nationwide while the rated R version in selected theaters. The studios could even measure what version would be the public's favorite by counting the box office results by theater room attendance. If proportionally the rated R version was getting better responses by theater room, they would know which version to push for commercially just after a week. Easy. Everybody would win.
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Nov 24, 2011 8:29:37 AM CST
R rated = "like going to sleep knowing that there really could be a monster in the cupboard"...PG13 like going to sleep tucked in with a Care Bear and a Winnie the Poo nightlight
by cartmanez.
sweet dreams:
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/01/some-clarifications-on-ridley-scotts.html -
Nov 24, 2011 8:31:27 AM CST
R rated = "like going to sleep knowing that there really could be a monster in the cupboard"...PG13 like going to sleep tucked in with a Care Bear and a Winnie the Poo nightlight
by cartmanez.
sweet dreams:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L7v50iqjRO4/TTTnc1HkJpI/AAAAAAAAABs/IdfZtYEwWn0/s1600/tumblr_ksk9otPxRc1qa1o5zo1_250.jpg -
Nov 24, 2011 8:36:50 AM CST
Steve McCroskey: Johnny, what can you make out of this? [Hands him tickets to the PG-13 version of Prometheus]
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 8:36:55 AM CST
Johnny: This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl...
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 9:08:42 AM CST
Is it F-bombs and Pubic Hair that you want? I mean that's cool. I can dig it.
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 9:09:29 AM CST
who care what this is rated? stop expecting it to be another ALIEN clone
by mcgootoo
Michael Fassbender says "There's definitely a link to Alien... There's creatures in it that you'll recognize," while Charlize Theron says, "I think people should really let go of the idea that it's an Alien film."
Of course, Fassbender may be referring to some other creatures we might recognize, while Theron might mean that more in a philosophical sense that this will depart from the style of previous Alien movies, even if the Xenomorphs themselves do put in some manner of appearance. Your guess is as good as mine at this point. -
Unfortunately, many GEEKS seem just as susceptible to blind group think as religious fanatics.
RE: Star Wars vs. Star Trek being better, wanting R-ratings instead of good stories, you get the point.
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They have limits with the R rating too, don't they? They have more freedom, obviously, but they're still restrained by limits imposed on them in order to qualify for an R rating.
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And what's up with the fucking geeks who scream for soemthing different, and then when it looks like they are going to get something different, they want it to be the same?
Fuck
So Alien was rated R.
Prometheus is not.
Prometheus is not Alien.
Get over it.
And hope for the same level of greatness, instead of whining about the differences.
Smart Geeks understand.
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Some Prometheus here at AICN. The fact is back in the day, movies were made to be "good movies" hence the rated R to make a "better" movie. Now movies are made to MAKE MONEY ONLY. PG13 is here to stay, sucks but the truth. I am hoping this movie will KICK ASS. Its been a while since we have had a REALLY GOOD SF movie. The New THING movie was such a waste of time and money. It cost them 33 mil to make it and only made like 16 mil in the theaters. That could have been a great flick if they would have made a seq instead of a preq. We all know how the new one ends?!?! We all wanted to see what happened NEXT!!! Assholes never do what the fans want. For instance, Fans wanted a Star Trek with SULU TV series about the Ship he was captain on. We got the SHIT Brenen and Braga wanted which was ENTERPRISE. ASSHOLES didn't even have the work ST in the opening at first. Its amazing to me that they do the opposite of what the fans want and wonder why the shit BOMBS! Fucked up!
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ancient gods, kundalini, gnosis is all solid, but where are all these images and ancient arcane symbols I'm obviously missing? Some links would be much appreciated. It's going to be a promethius-lucifer-kundalni/twin serpents-chutulu-old ones balls to the wall mash-up?
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I like your enthusiasm.
You say:
The fact is back in the day, movies were made to be "good movies" hence the rated R to make a "better" movie.
But, The fact is, back in the day, there were no ratings, just the Hays code, which allowed for censorship, before the current ratings system.
With that censorship, countless great, now classic films were created.
Freedom does not always equal effective storytelling creativity.
It does allow for FUCK and bush.
Which reminds me, FUCK BUSH.......
And you say, as countless parrots say:
Now movies are made to MAKE MONEY ONLY.
That is just silly and severely shortsighted hypberbole.
Of course, I do not believe that any filmmaker makes a film to not be seen by anybody, so yes, all filmmakers want their films to have a paying audience, so they can make more films, if that is their predilection.
But the only reason is to make money? All filmmakers?
Don't people realize how dopey this sounds?
Who wants their work to lose money?
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http://tinyurl.com/6tunucu
Last weekend, Old Murder House Theater troupe staged a 90-minute, fast-forwarded recreation of James Cameron's space marine classic Aliens at a local hockey rink. The best part of the show? Only the xenomorphs really knew how to skate, whereas the space marines lurched for their lives. Witness the unparalleled chaos that was Aliens on Ice.
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http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/king_solomons_temple/page_13.htm
The two black dots in the middle are the pillars JACHIN AND BOAZ.
JACHIN and BOAZ represent the Male Penis.
Now look at the words ORACLE - TEMPLE - PORCH and imagine the MALE PHALLIC INSIDE THE FEMALE BOX.
There it is.
The ORACLE being the HEAD the TEMPLE being the SHAFT and the PORCH ain't the twig it's the BERRIES.
It's no mystery, it's sex worship. The idea is the GENERATIVE or REGENERATIVE MALE DOMINATED PRINCIPLE.
WHY IS THERE A MALE HEAD IN THE PICTURES?
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This is starting to feel like a Lost Talkback a little.
THat's cool with me...
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Nov 24, 2011 10:56:04 AM CST
Look at it this way. In ALIEN the Derelict Spacecraft was a WOMAN with her legs in the air and the PORTAL DOORS/openings were vaginas. Inside the Derelict was eggs. What's inside a woman?...
by darth_kong
Eggs.
It's all visual and SYMBOLIC METAPHORS.
What is a WOMAN?
A MAN WITH A WOMB.
All ships are FEMALE.
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Nov 24, 2011 11:00:51 AM CST
I mean the clue is right in front of us. They're not EGGS they're URNS or AMPULES. Containing MALE GENETIC MATERIAL or SEMEN? A MAN's SEED? It's a MALE HEAD in the temple right?
by darth_kong
If it is a temple.
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Intererting theories, but sometimes, a spaceship is just a spaceship.
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Sometimes an Alien is just an Alien.
Or it's a CREATURE WITH A THREE to FOUR FOOT LONG PENIS HEAD.
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But when I hear the words from 2001 ---
OPEN POD BAY DOORS, PLEASE HAL
Sometimes I hear ----
OPEN PADME'S DRAWERS, PLEASE HAL
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Remember Robot Chicken?
Padamommay or Panda Bear or Whatever the hell her name is!
What the hell's an Aluminum Falcon?!
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Yup, loved last weeks episode too.
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Nov 24, 2011 11:13:46 AM CST
the sexual imagery in ALIEN is no coincidence, given the man who created it, H.R. Giger.
by asimovlives
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Nov 24, 2011 11:16:53 AM CST
Look, I don't have a PHD after my name but what I'm saying is, OH MY GOD? DID RIDLEY SCOTT PUT WHAT I THINK HE PUT IN THESE IMAGES? Symbol Literacy or CODE BREAKING.
by darth_kong
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Yes.
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To be certain.
I really, really want to see Prometheus.
I showed the first 25 minutes of 2001 to a friend last night, someone who has never seen, it believe it or not.
We were watching an episode of Ancient Aliens, an episode about the possibility of Aliens influencing the birth of humankind, when I started describing 2001 to her.
I described the opening first, then showed it to her.
I felt like a teacher....
Gimme outer space adventure!!!!!!!
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Since it is written by a Lost writer, you may really be on to something with the symbology...
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It's my complete conviction that all that business of ancient astronauts from another world to be complete bullshit.
It doesn't prevent me from loving 2001 like my own blood.
It's great to show other people movies, masterpieces they don't know yet and see their reactions of awe, of discovery of something great they had no ida about. I saw that happened with my friends when i showed them for the first time BARRY LYNDON, GOODFELLAS and THE HOLY MOUNTAIN. -
Nov 24, 2011 11:34:14 AM CST
So METAPHORICALLY in these pictures, FASSBENDER, RAPACE, and Scooter are treasure hunters who have found Solomon's Temple and Solomon's Gold? It's Metaphorically GOLD IN THE URNS?
by darth_kong
Hard to say.
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It's my complete conviction that all that business of ancient astronauts from another world to be complete bullshit.
I tend to agree with you, but leave a little wiggle room for the slim possibility, since I don't like to rule out anything until there is real evidence as to mankind's origins.
But, I do watch Ancient Aliens, consider most of their theories to be laughable, but fun, and primarily watch the program because they show the audience images of art, artifacts, and structures that I have not previously witnessed, and they are often compelling and fascinating, and get me deep thinking about the seemingly limitless wonders of the own, and unknown universe(s).
So, it is a show with something more than just a joke premise, that aliens were very prominent in all aspects of ancient cultures.
BARRY LYNDON, GOODFELLAS and THE HOLY MOUNTAIN.
All great films, of course I love Barry Lyndon, for among it's other superior elements, it's lighting.
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Nov 24, 2011 11:37:33 AM CST
Would EXTRATERRESTRIAL DNA be worth more than GOLD to MAN?
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 11:46:30 AM CST
Stone Temple Pilots. What does it all mean? Flies in the Vaseline WE ARE. Sometimes it blows my mind. Keep getting stuck here all the time...
by darth_kong
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..figures in a reality show viewed by our Alien creators.
Or we are just....... hmmmmmmmm........
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Who's to say aliens have DNA. DNA can and most certainly is provincial to Earth alone. And even on earth it's not the only way for genetics to propagate a spieces.
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How about silicon?
Didn't Ash say something about silicon in Alien?
I forget.
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"Maybe the whole concept of BIOMECHANICS is opposite of DNA? "
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Nov 24, 2011 12:22:00 PM CST
Jesus Christ why didn't I see it?! Ridley says – The last eight minutes of the “Prometheus” story evolve into “a pretty good DNA of the ‘Alien’ one.”
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 12:23:19 PM CST
8 in Jewish Masonic Numerology means a NEW BEGINNING. Turn the 8 HORIZONTALLY and you get the INFINITY SYMBOL. Prometheus opens June 8 2012.
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 12:24:24 PM CST
Ridley you SLY FOX I'm on to you! You better go to sleep every night and worry about me! I'm on to you!
by darth_kong
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Nov 24, 2011 12:28:01 PM CST
You didn't think when I looked at the LIGHTSTORM ENTERTAINMENT logo I didn't see a HIDDEN ZODIAC? I'm on to you to Jim! Sly little foxes.
by darth_kong
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and how it bellyflopped and the repercussions for mary breen farrelly were that apart from being made bankrupt she was run out of town by the irish film industry...
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i feel i know too much about it already.
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with all that psuedo sexual reference and called Mark Kermode an idiot on air once when he saw kermode talk about alien on tv once. a monster movie in space is just a monster movie in space....
it think it pissed fanning off when people read to much into things...
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That includes the rating for this movie. Didn't it ever occur to anyone here that ridley Scott just might be putting out more disinformation onpurpose?
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yeah, there's much merit to that though there, friend.
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And that's she in a space suit. Ridley Scott sure knows how to make his leading ladies look a million dollars.
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Nov 24, 2011 5:42:47 PM CST
forgetting the rating for the minute, im reassured by Ridley saying he wants to 'scare the shit out of us'....and others sayin its about uncovering a civilization but finding some deeply uncivilized behaviour...very peverse things etc
by cartmanez.
it seems that Prometheus will be going for that eerie unsettling feel, as opposed to a lot of gore. the scares and eerieness from the search for God and origins of mankind, creating an atmosphere full of dread which will make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. We should be scared, and creeped out, by the implications of the ideas presented, and the sense of weirdness or errieness, akin to 2001, Alien (obviously) the original Twilight Zone and some of the 1st season episodes of original Star Trek which had that eerie, uncanny vibe - the ship alone charting a haunted universe that hid some deeply strange things ... the horror will be in reaction to the concepts unfolding...what it means for mankind...where we came from...who or what is behind it..and why...our place in the universe etc.... the unfathomable big questions we might be better off not knowing the answers to...
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Nov 24, 2011 5:53:35 PM CST
It looks like theyre going for an atmosphere of Fantastic Four
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
forget PG-13, is this PG?
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Look at the top picture, what does this tell us? Well the people are wearing blue, whats blue - the sea, what does the sea do? Seperate us so we have to go on journies. Those figures are literally going on a journy.
What is this a prequel to? Alien - what does alien mean? Foreign. So where do foreigners go to be together? America - give us your disposesed, and who are the most famous Americans? The 3 stooges - represented by the 3 figures.
What does this tell us? That even if we are together and the same (all white and in the same outfit) we are all different and we will always hurt each other. What hurts people in this film? The Aliens, but we are all aliens and deswtined to hurt each other.
Maybe if thats what it all means... but it might not, but it obviously does.
Im off to get my tin foil hat and regrout my monitor. -
space explorers
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Those 3 figures are dressed up, where do people first get dressed up for? The Prom.
All the sexual imigary in Alien - where do people get their first sexual experiences? The Prom - the first 4 letters of PROMetheus.
Now whats the next letter? E, a drug that makes us hug one another and feel together as one, and also makes us space cadets - just like the crew of the Nostromo. But in the picture of 3 figures, 2 are looking one way and one the other so we cannot be together as one. And what is that torch? Its the torch of a teacher making us dance apart at the PROM!
And what are the other letters in the films title THEUS, as in THE US. so if we put it all together it means PROM E THE US as all our first sexual experiences are from the Prom and we should get E-ed up so as not to dance apart.
This could be the case or it might not be, but it could be, but it might not be... so glad that Ridley Scott read my thoughts but he might not have. -
That stone face is like the album cover of Face Value by Phil Collins. And this is a Sci Fi film like 2001. And what does Dave Bowman say in 2001... "My God its PHIL of stars" and who is the superstar of Phils? PHIL COLLINS, making us go PHIL circle, which is round just like the earth.
Whats Phils greatest hit? Another Day in Paradise, so the head is a metaphisical / metaPHILsical journey from earth to paradise - PHILidise!
I am certainly 50/50 this is, is not, maybe certainly probably could well not will be the case. But won't probably will be... until I have seen the film. -
as in space no one can hear you scream when a Phil Collins record is played?
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Could be if it is! -
Whatever idiot was hounding me about seeing it...
Geeze.
I had low expectations but come on!
Seriously?!?!
NO. I mean SERIOUSLY?!?!?
It isn't often that low expectations are not even met. -
Now you know what i fell about Abrams Trek. It isn't pretty, is it?
-
THE THING 2011 makes J.J. remake seem like a masterpiece.
It's that bad. Seriously. I could not believe it.
The creature is fucking retarded - like Scooby Doo quality both conceptually and in execution.
It looked phoney as hell, not a damn shred of practical except for the autopsy.
Good God the parts when it's the scientist's face coming at him...
It looked so ridiculous. Terrible on all fronts. And the thing doesn't act like the real THING at all.
It's hyperspastic, stupid and A.D.D. - Can't even sit still - There were so many times that if
it had just WAITED (Like how the REAL THING did) it would have been in the clear but no...
They force terrible fake looking cartoons on us. And don't get me started on the sets and clothes!
Nothing looked or felt 80's at all. It was like a bunch of kids who either weren't alive or were still
in diapers in the year 1982 because none of them have a clue what people acted or dressed like.
And all the actors were over primped by the makeup people as well. They were all made up instead
of gruff and scruffy how real scientists in 1982 in Antarctica would be. All the hair was perfect, etc.
Fucking retarded. God, Harry was right - this movie was fucking so bad I can't believe it.
And yes, it's a remake - it's a beat for beat watered down with cartoons for the kids remake
under the guise of a prequel. You would not believe how retarded the movie gets. -
It's out now, anyone who can use Google can snag it.
Be sure to get the subtitles. -
Nov 25, 2011 4:44:56 AM CST
Seriously, the creatures in THING 2011 looked like PS2 Resident Evil
by mentaldominance
I kept thinking - Why does this shit look like Resident Evil?
It was so retarded the creature design...
And then the fact that they animate it with CGI. It was inexcusable.
I just don't understand WHY?
WHY?
WHY would they do this?
Who said it would be a good idea? -
Just sayin'. ;-)
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Nov 25, 2011 5:04:05 AM CST
Has Ridley grown a pair yet and threatened to walk away unless it's R in cinemas?
by wookie_weed
Please, please let it happen.
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Nov 25, 2011 5:38:37 AM CST
wookie: THING 2011 was R. JAWS and Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978 were PG.
by mentaldominance
You can have suspense, GOOD F/X, a great soundtrack, great acting, and a great script
with any rating. THE THING 2011's issue is that it failed on all of these fronts.
Plus, it WAS RATED R - It just didn't deliver R rated scares.
You CAN NOT use CGI and make a monster be anything other than a cartoon.
It shouldn't be attempted. It's just lazy and retarded.
I can't understand how anyone could be affected by CGI animations.
I mean, it's so cartoonish looking, it should have been PG-13
You have to be pretty stupid and/or just not want realism to buy into it.
It never works. Hopefully this film becomes a testament to that. An example. -
Nov 25, 2011 6:38:29 AM CST
ihatetalkbacks' version I would pitch tent and queue for TODAY.
by sigourneyweavers3dbeaver
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Nov 25, 2011 6:49:37 AM CST
lol the Thing CG creature effects were pretty good
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
for the most part.
There's just no practical effects industry in place anymore to even consider going that route.
Sorry but CG is here to stay, better get used to it. -
If CG is here to stay then a large portion of film goers are simply going to
stay AWAY, myself included. This can be changed if people vote with their dollar.
Hopefully Prometheus will show how badly practical f/x are needed today.
Pretty good? For the most part? Come on man, seriously?
The f/x were terrible. There is no way you can honestly believe what you're
saying unless, as I mentioned above, you simply do not want realism in film.
That's fine - but stick to cartoons and comic books then because realism is
supposed to be what THE THING is about.
Don't even get me started on the melted split face thing scene, or that
fucking thing with the scientist's head on it at the end - man that crap
looked fucking retarded. You just can't do real creatures with CGI.
And no, I will *NEVER* get used to it. I simply won't pay for it.
And if others are smart, they'll do the same.
Seriously this shit was Resident Evil cut scene quality. -
I feel your pain, brother.
And know you know exactly how I feel about Abrams Trek. It's such an ugly feeling, one wants to take revenge. Mere dissing is not enough to cleanse the foul stench it left. -
Nov 25, 2011 11:13:34 AM CST
the cgi shots of t rex in jp were pretty good. and that was 15 years ago. the problem is most of these horror movies, because of their limited audience, dont have the time or budget to creat believable cgi creatures.
by dahveed1972
nor do they have the time or budget to create believable practical creatures.
there are plenty of well-done cgi creatures in movies. they're just not in horror movies, especially r rated horror movies. but thats got nothing to do with the limitations of cg effects. -
Nov 25, 2011 12:41:07 PM CST
@mentaldominance the cgi aliens in AvP were,at least in my knowledge,universally praised.
by killik
so dont be so absolute with your disapproval of the cgi technology.
Besides practical effects are not perfect: there are some scenes in the original THING were they clearly look fake.or in the Alien movie. -
You mean you really can't tell the difference between something that's
actually THERE and something that's dubbed in later on?
I think you all need to go to film school and learn about things.
It's clearly obvious when CGI is used. Furthermore, I'm sick of the Jurassic
Park examples. First off, most of the close up stuff was prosthetic.
Secondly, a dinosaur has very heavy armored skin.
CGI does things like that fine. Like space ships and mechanical objects.
A dinosaur is pretty much like that when you consider it's armor.
There's nothing really squishy about a dino is what I mean.
This is where CGI simply fails - it can not do really organic looking things such
as anything that isn't 400 tons and mechanical or a dinosaur.
It isn't even about if it looks fake or not as much as it's about the fact that
CGI just simply isn't even there and you can always tell numerous ways.
The CGI coloring is always different and it always sticks out like it's too
sharp. CGI also never moves correctly. Look at the A.D.D. hyper active
2011 THE THING for an example. Look at the fucking latest Planet of the
Apes for an example. The animation is always terrible.
And here we get to the kicker - even if you're still debating on the side of
"let's do everything in CGI and CGI is just wonderfull!" you can't ignore
the fact that super imposed things simply never line up with actor's
reactions... AND EVEN IN THE RARE CASES WHERE THEY DO - The actors
emotions are still never right because they aren't LOOKING AT ANYTHING.
It looks fucking ridiculous. "Look here and it's something scary. We'll
add it in later on, don't worry but for right now just act scared!"
How the fuck does a director go ahead with that kind of plan?
It just makes no sense. Do it fucking practical. And again, I am not against
CGI - I'm against using it as the end all to every fucking effect.
And it really only has a very small place in film - very quick wide shots
(can't have them too long else you always know) and mechanical things,
etc. - but you have to cut that shit QUICK or it still sticks out...
And DIRECTORS! Directors who are in love with their fucking f/x!
I can't stand directors like this! "Oooohh look at this!!! (Music swells!)
We are aweing you! Be awed now! These are amazing effects!"
I just can't stand it when they parade it around like it's just so fucking
great. Well.. It isn't great. Less is more guys. It just makes me shut it off.
Cuz I can't enjoy just looking at a cartoon and that's all it really is.
It just doesn't stand up to reality. That's why it needs to be used SPARINGLY
and with understanding of what works and what doesn't.
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Also, who even saw AVP and of those who did, who remembers it?
I sure as hell don't. Also, "universally praised" is stretching it a bit, don't you think?
If you want a video game then you will like CGI.
People like me want realism. If you think CGI is acceptable then all you're
saying is you don't need or want your films to be realistic.
You're saying you're happy enough just getting the idea but you don't
really care about if it's done in a realistic way or not.
To me, that ruins the whole point of film.
You're not supposed to KNOW it's an effect!
You're not supposed to be saying "Oh! That's GOOD CGI!"
How is it fucking good when you know it's there?
You're not supposed to know an effect is there!
Yet most CGI parades it's self around and let's you know it's there.
Furthermore, it expects you to give a shit and be awed by it.
It's fucking kiddie ass crap, it's not real and I fucking hate it.
I hate how film is today. Something must be done.
The bar has been lowered so bad. -
you say:
People like me want realism. If you think CGI is acceptable then all you're saying is you don't need or want your films to be realistic. To me, that ruins the whole point of film.
But films are NEVER realistic, by their very nature. Waking dreams is the best description.
Some movies strive to be more realistic than others, but no movie is 100% realistic.
AND:
You're not supposed to KNOW it's an effect!You're not supposed to know an effect is there!
According to who, you? That is not realistic, and a bit silly.
Practical effects are usually pretty obvious as well.
But, BUT I like obvious special effects. AND I LOVE sets, the more obvious, the better, really. I like to admire the work involved in crafting the sets and special effects.
But yeah, most CGI is woefully bad, and makes many a movie suffer.
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Nov 25, 2011 3:19:54 PM CST
=Also, who even saw AVP and of those who did, who remembers it?=
by killik
what does this have to do with the cgi aliens? we are discussing the potential of the cgi technology here right?
The cgi Aliens in AvP were praised.The Predators,who were men in suits,were not.The cgi prawns in District 9 were also praised.
That means that the cgi technology,if used properly,can create wonders.the same goes with the practical effects.
The nostalgia fanboys kept praising the Kraken in the original Clash of the Titans and condemning the cgi Kraken in the remake as the inferior visual effect because it was cgi.But have they recently watched Harrryhausen's classic monster in that movie? it was a piece of shit and completely fake.sorry but that's the truth.
Besides give it 20 years more and the cgi will eventually manage to blow the eyes of even the most hardcore naysayers.If you can fap on the sweet cgi ass of Neytiri,now in the 2009,imagine what you will fap on in the 2029.
CGI is a technology which keeps evolving and will eventually replace practical effects for good.that is a given fact.The problem,the real problem,lies with the people who use it,not with the technology.Are they talented and visionary and especially smart enough to use it as a tool in their filmmaking rather than as the epicenter of their films? -
Nov 25, 2011 3:29:04 PM CST
if Lance Henrikson hadnt appeared in AvP he probably wouldve been cast in Promethues....
by cartmanez.
thats abit annoying
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I wasn't singling you out when I said that, in fact, I was reiterating what
I had said before. I still hold to what I said.
If you think dodgy dubbed in cartoons are acceptable then you simply do not have
as high of standards and you should. The standards have been lowered.
It seems almost as if you're arguing to keep them lowered!
Yeah, maybe many films aren't realistic but the whole point is a good film maker is
supposed to try to make them as realistic as possible unless they're just kiddie fare.
Why would you want to use the excuse that since film isn't always 100% realistic,
using something as ultra-unrealistic as CGI is okay because hey... It's all fake.
That is such a cop out, I can't even begin to explain how lame that view is.
You're putting up with mediocrity. We're supposed to be getting better.
We're supposed to be evolving as humans. We're supposed to at least be able
to make something as believable in 2011 as we did in 1982 for Christ's sake!
Realistic is a relative term. You're twisting it to mean what it doesn't.
I could watch superman fight Zod and it's not necessarily realistic in terms of
believability but the whole trick with film is to SUSPEND that disbelief!
And you do that by using all the tools you have as a director.
You have good stories. Good actors. Good soundtracks. Good editing.
And why wouldn't you also want to have good special f/x then?
No matter how ya cut it, it just doesn't add up. It's just lazy and lame film making.
If I was given 1/3rd of the budget these CGI happy cartoon makers are given
I can guarantee I'd do something more creative than the predictable ho-hum
swooping CGIscape garbage that seems to be in all "big" movies anymore!
I can't remember the last time I saw something that looked halfway real.
You act like you're fighting the whole point of film and that's to GO WITH IT!
To suspend your disbelief! To believe! That's the magic of film man!
I think you just haven't seen enough good films to see in contrast the difference
between the cash cow contrived garbage of now vs. the actual art of yesteryear.
And no, I'm not just an old cronie talking. You don't have productions like ALIEN
anymore where teams of ARTISTS with actual clay and paint build things.
You can't make everything equal and say CGI artists are just as good.
You have to compare the final product and when you do... You look at the
opening shot of Blade Runner and then you look at that THOR crap and it's
just fucking obvious that no one today has any artistic merit.
They've been handed everything on a plate already, given all these tools but
not had to earn the ability to use them. Stifled environments force creativity.
That's why there's no creativity today - everyone is handed everything without
having to earn it. Why learn to play an instrument when idiot DJ's are making
millions pointing and clicking together so-called songs? Why learn to paint
or sculpt when a computer can do it for you? Today's so-called artists have
no incentive to actually LEARN and go that extra mile to make it work...
To be able to self critique and stand back and say "That doesn't look right.
It's unacceptable. We're going to have to find a different way of doing it."
Plainly put, many of today's so-called artists are simply candy fed spoiled
whining babies with fanboy fetishes who simply do not have the maturity
or attention span to go through the necessary steps require to refine
their skillset and become actual masters of something.
You want me to lie. You want me to act like it's all just a matter of opinion and
everything is equal. IT ISN'T! Take a look man. If you can seriously compare
what comes out now to what came out pre 90's all the way back to the
beginning of film then you're deceiving yourself.
And it's not just CGI that I'm talking about. CGI is just a tool that's over
used because really, no one knows how to do anything the real way anymore.
The fucking THING 2011 had sets that looked like sets, prissy pampered
looking actors who as I mentioned above, you could tell the makeup people
were touching up all throughout the film. Not a hair was out of place.
Film makers just DON'T CARE anymore. WHY? Because people like you
who try to tell them that it's okay to me mediocre and second best.
People who continue to go to the theater and support this garbage.
Video gamers who basically are only looking for something to look as good
as a cut scene in the first place so they can have fan boy fetish circle jerks
over what super hero can beat the other one up.
THE STANDARDS ARE LOWERED. The first step in changing something is to
admit it exists. If people will just be honest and admit that what I'm saying
is true then they'll have the power to change it. If they remain complacent,
they're just robbing their own selves and this generation of the pleasure
that only real true blood and sweat art can bring. -
Nov 25, 2011 3:51:22 PM CST
Jim cameron says AvP was the 3rd best Alien movie - do you agree with Jim?
by cartmanez.
id say it was better than Alien 4 but not as good as A3 (but then Cameron is biased as A3 killed off all his characters)
id have to say best to worst (out of *****):
Alien (*****)
Aliens (*****)
A3 (***)
AvP(***)
AR (**)
AvP:R (*)
hopefully by next year it will be:
Alien (*****)
Prom (*****)
Aliens (*****)
A3 (***)
AvP(***)
AR (**)
AvP:R (*) -
Nov 25, 2011 3:55:40 PM CST
good CGI - that octopus face guy on Pirates of the Carribean 2 & 3...
by ufoclub1977
That shit was liquidy, set in real footage, seamless, and many people thought it was makeup/practical effects.
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And I agree - District 9 looked great in the theater but like everything else,
when you put it on 1080p HDTV at home you can tell.
Don't get me wrong - District 9 was fucking brilliant and I loved it and I give
kudos to all areas of the film making from direction to story to acting to f/x.
But for every 1 District 9 there seems to be 1000 THE THING 2011's and
Planet of the Apes and whatever cartoon they're pimping at us currently.
I don't think ANY special effect technique will replace practical effects man,
why are you on such a bandwagon for CGI? I don't get the love.
It's like all these people goign "just you wait! it will be the end all soon!"
Well... No it won't. NOTHING will ever be the end all.
What works is using these various tools in ways that makes the film work.
No technique will ever be the end all. CGI has more weaknesses than practical.
It stands out WAY more. (with few exceptions - obviously I like District 9)
But we're still missing the point because as I mentioned above, there are many
variables that go into a good film and a good film makers knows which tools
to choose to maximize the film and he also knows how to use those tools
and he knows how to look at his film objectively and be honest and admit
when shit doesn't look right - regardless of why - and fix it.
Just seems that 99% of the time the reason why anymore is POOR CGI.
And also - some things are just fucking pointless. I hate this idea that everything
will be done in the computer. Yeah sure it will. It already is. And it looks like shit.
You're not admitting the computer's strengths and weaknesses, you're acting
like it's some Godlike entity that will eventually solve all film problems.
It's not. It's just a tool. An over used tool. A tool that will allow the most skill less
hack to make something that makes money in this retarded society.
There is no excuse for adding CGI breath instead of just filming in the cold.
There is no excuse for adding CGI blood when it never looks real and such
low tech simple solution such as squibs exist.
Even if the computer COULD make it look real, it's still pointless to use it when
doing it the old way looks so much better and is WAY fucking easier.
It's like they don't want to take any time anymore to even shoot things in
physical reality. They just want to get their name actors scanned in and then
complete the film in the computer. That's fucking bullshit and evil. -
Nov 25, 2011 4:01:53 PM CST
And as far as the ALIEN "Franchise" - Only ALIEN was great. ALIENS is okay. Everything else is garbage.
by mentaldominance
Just like how only Raiders of the Lost Ark was any good and all the sequels are inferior drivel.
-
Where are you man? A thread about 'Prometheus' and you don't have a comment? That doesn't even seem right.
Given the lack of good sci-fi in movies or tv, I'm going to get my fix from literature. Considering "Woken Furies" or "Hyperion" next. Anything you can suggest that's as good as "House of Suns"?
Warren -
Why the fuck is Ridley still shooting an R edit for a bluray release?
Why the fuck would Lindelof bring it up at Comic-Con?
Because PG-13 isn't what Ridley wants. He wants R. But he's shooting PG-13 because FOX owns the franchise and it was the only way he could get the budget for real sets instead of green screens.
Ridley IS shooting R. But we only get a bluray, and don't get to see it in cinemas. if you think Ridley is happy about it, then you must think Harry writes good reviews and has good health. -
Nov 26, 2011 12:30:55 AM CST
Crude oil is a global currency. The most lifeless barren areas of the Earth are now sprawling cities. Why? Commerce.
by darth_kong
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Nov 26, 2011 12:32:46 AM CST
The suits at FOX aren't in it for the art. They're in it for commerce. They know that PG-13 or R, you'll plunk down your money and they'll have your business.
by darth_kong
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Nov 26, 2011 12:34:11 AM CST
Commerce runs the Earth. It owns countries, religions, and products. It just commerce.
by darth_kong
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Nov 26, 2011 12:36:54 AM CST
There might be an R or UNRATED version in IMAX. That's my hope. 5k Red EPIC footage rendered out to IMAX 15 perf 70mm is more exciting for me than 3D. I hate those glasses.
by darth_kong
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Nov 26, 2011 4:54:58 AM CST
What's really weird too is the Space Jockey PEDESTAL could represent the 12, or 13 if you like, dispensations of the Zodiac...
by darth_kong
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/prometheus?before=1312225070
Maybe the Gun Turret thing the Jockey grew onto in ALIEN is for charting stars in the galaxy?
Like a compass for finding it's way? -
there ive solved the problem
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http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/11/26/exclusive-new-prometheus-trailer-description/
sounds like the best film ever made -
Nov 26, 2011 6:05:01 AM CST
cartmanez - Next is the space jockey room. Same as in the Comic-con footage. The center piece of the plate opens up and the space jockey chair rotates out of the ground.
by darth_kong
Cool.
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I never thought of the derelict as a woman's legs spread eagle. The vaginal-like doors were always obvious.
Maybe the space jockey society is matriarchal? Could explain why the alien queen is, well, a queen. Also, maybe the space jockey aliens being a matriarchal race could tie in with those fertility idols that primitive mankind fashioned?
Maybe humanity's overly patriarchal ordering of society over the majority of history took over after the matriarchal space jockies left humankind behind for whatever reason, hundreds of thousands of years ago?
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I commented in this talkback several days ago. I guess this one is still going on, but with Thanksgiving and all, plus being sick, I haven't paid much attention to AICN.
At least an alien chestburster didn't explode forth from the turkey yesterday. Or would that make it a turkeyburster?
As for some good science fiction literature, I haven't read anything new that I can think of off the top of my head. I still need to pick up that zombie novel Zone One, which you had recommended. Maybe this week while I am Christmas shopping.
There is an interesting sounding new sci-fi novel coming out December 20th. I just saw it on Amazon the other day.
"Count to a Trillion"
http://www.amazon.com/Count-Trillion-John-C-Wright/dp/0765329271/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322311809&sr=1-1
It definitely sounds interesting. I figured you might find it worth a look too. -
Sounds like a proper Avengers 2 anime subtext surrounding a giant vagina (that needs to be exploded) and ant-giant man/hulk there.
The Giant Head? The Elder Gods or statues-impressions of them. Like err... the folks at the end of Runaways Series 1, for example. So as im sure it's been pointed out many times before, the moneys on Jockey having a intergalactic role as one of those fella's.
I still want my cremaster cycle-Space Jockey movie. -
Nov 26, 2011 7:03:57 AM CST
lv_426 - I can't take credit for the Derelict legs spread thing. ALIEN nerds have been talking about that before...
by darth_kong
Except it's creepy in that Total Recall that Martian Bar Girl has three breasts.
It would be scary to see a woman with three vaginas.
At least for me anyway. -
Nov 26, 2011 7:08:43 AM CST
alan_grant_lives - Makes you wonder if the Space Jockey or Engineer race will be ASEXUAL EXTRATERRESTRIALS...
by darth_kong
Maybe Ridley will take the same ASEXUAL Reproduction idea that the Dracs used in Enemy Mine?
I'm a sucker for that movie. -
you spend a lot of time disagreeing with people who agree with you.
-
But I want this PG-13 movie to be R-Rated, it would make for a better movie....
Ok, cool. Then, really, why not hope that the PG-13 movie is rated NC- 17? Wouldn't that make for an even better movie?
NC-17? Whaddya fucking nuts? I want the movie to have an audience, dummy.....
Oh. I see.... -
Nov 26, 2011 9:02:46 AM CST
THe Aliej ship as a spreaded leg woman becames quite obvious if you see the art work paintings done by Giger when he designed for the movie.
by asimovlives
And really, it's quite obvious where the inspiration for the ship design and specially the entrance where the Nostormo crew enter nto. It's quite vagina looking.
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Scroll down to the bottom pic.
Space Jockey Chair Turret Barrel thingy looks like a Penis.
http://andyfilm.com/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3179&start=30 -
It looks like a spread open vagina during an examination.
Some people say it's a face at the top but it kinda look like a clitoris.
http://moviecarpet.com/2011/07/06/new-photos-from-the-set-of-prometheus/ -
Nov 26, 2011 1:18:43 PM CST
CGI and Practical effects working together have proven to be the way to go.
by the green gargantua
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Nov 26, 2011 1:26:21 PM CST
FOR EXMAPLE: Lets say I wanted to make a LIVE ACTION UROTSUKIDÕGI?
by the green gargantua
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Nov 26, 2011 1:26:27 PM CST
Man in practical monster suite with CGI wings a giant throbbing jizzing tentacle cocks
by the green gargantua
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Nov 26, 2011 4:53:02 PM CST
T.........R.........A.........I...........L.........E...........R
by cartmanez.
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Then you'll wish it had have been released in cinemas instead of the PG-13.
Of course, Sir Ridley has a history of saving director cuts for dvd releases and more money. ;)
Dammit, Australia has an MA15+ to bridge that big gap between PG and R -- release it here, Ridley!!! -
Nov 26, 2011 7:27:39 PM CST
Seriously, can barely see crap in that trailer -- just the guy's reflection
by wookie_weed
You guys are overreacting a little.
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Gif of someone jumping onto an alien/space jockey.
http://bit.ly/sp8Hil
It's Cthulhu!!! -
Nov 28, 2011 4:44:26 AM CST
it's possible darth_kong, and also Jockey as dipicted in Alien
by alan_grant_lives
could very much be seen a chained Promethius under sentance/punishment - only they eat his guts out and spawn from the inside every day only for him/her/it to be healed...
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