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Tonight brings the last new "Fringe" until Jan. 13:

Fridays, Sept. 9-Nov. 11, 2011
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; previous weeks in parentheses)
1.7 (2.1) (---) (1.7) (1.8) (1.9) (1.8) (2.0) (0.9) (0.8) Blue Bloods
1.7 (1.6) (1.4) (1.8) (1.7) (1.6) (1.7) (1.8) (0.8) (0.7) CSI NY
1.6 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) College Basketball
1.6 (1.6) (1.3) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Gold Rush
1.6 (1.8) (2.1) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Grimm
1.6 (1.5) (---) (1.4) (1.4) (1.6) (1.7) (1.6) (1.0) (0.9) Kitchen Nightmares
1.4 (1.2) (1.3) (1.0) (1.5) (1.4) (1.6) (2.0) (1.5) (1.8) Dateline
1.2 (1.2) (1.0) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.4) (---) (---) A Gifted Man
1.2 (1.1) (1.2) (2.0) (1.2) (1.1) (1.2) (1.0) (1.2) (1.0) 20/20
1.1 (1.3) (---) (0.5) (1.2) (1.3) (1.2) (1.5) (0.6) (0.6) Fringe
1.0 (1.0) (0.8) (0.9) (1.0) (1.0) (0.9) (1.1) (0.7) (1.0) WWE Smackdown
0.9 (0.9) (1.0) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Chuck
0.8 (0.7) (0.6) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Flying Wild Alaska
0.8 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Geek Charming
0.8 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Kung Fu Panda
0.8 (0.8) (0.7) (0.8) (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (---) (0.3) Supernatural
0.7 (0.6) (0.5) (0.8) (0.8) (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) (0.7) (---) American Restoration
0.7 (1.3) (1.0) (1.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Extreme MHE
0.7 (0.6) (---) (0.7) (0.5) (0.5) (0.7) (---) (---) (---) Phineas & Ferb
0.6 (0.6) (0.6) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) House of Payne
0.6 (0.6) (0.6) (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.6) (0.6) (---) (0.3) Nikita
0.5 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) DC Cupcakes
0.5 (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) Diners, Drive-Ins
0.5 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Green Lantern
0.5 (0.4) (0.3) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Hairy Bikers
0.5 (0.4) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Meet The Browns
0.5 (---) (0.5) (---) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (---) Star Wars: Clone Wars
0.5 (0.4) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (0.6) Thundercats
0.4 (---) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.6) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) Ghost Adventures
0.4 (0.4) (0.3) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) Sanctuary
0.4 (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) Say Yes To The Dress
0.3 (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Crave

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  • Nov. 18, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST

    So is GRIMM worth watching?

    by Ines5

    Grimm has been Doing Better Than Expected. So is There A Good Reason for This?

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    I have Always been a Fan of Supernatural

    by Ines5

    But to be honest This Season has for the most part Bored me. SIGH

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST

    For all the Fringe doom and gloom

    by mongo126

    It's still hovering in the 1.2 range. A number that Fox has said they're fine with. Does that mean it will go on for another 3 or 4 seasons? No, but I think they will be given time to wrap things up.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:33 a.m. CST


    by NudeandAroused

    Yeah, I dig Grimm. The writing is really cool!

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:40 a.m. CST

    I'm not expecting a biff cliffhanger on Fringe

    by theGoldbergV

    as because of the baseball the intended mid-season cliffhanger was bumped to next year. Most likely this'll just be a standalone sort of story. And what is it with you Americans? No one watches TV in December?

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:41 a.m. CST

    should say bigg

    by theGoldbergV

    no idea what a biff cliffhanger is. Likely something to do with Back to the Future

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:41 a.m. CST

    or even big

    by theGoldbergV


  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:44 a.m. CST

    This should be the last season of Fringe

    by Gezoes

    I'm unsure if I'lll be watching when it returns. It's run its course. It's clear the writers have no idea what to do next and Joshua and John already have other projects going.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 5 a.m. CST

    I disagree gezoes

    by hst666

    Fringe is not Lost. I believe the writers know exactly where they are going. Also, there are a plethora of possibilities based upon everything they have introduced so far.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 5:07 a.m. CST

    I think we'll get just one more season of Fringe.

    by gotilk

    And to be honest, if they go all out and give us some bigness... I'm okay with that. Just don't go out on a whimper. It's been so good.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 5:17 a.m. CST

    We watch TV in December

    by Cash907

    Its usually crap though, as the networks never program anything decent for god knows why. This sucks for me because I torrent all my shows and watch them during my daily commute, so december is a looooong month for me.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 5:47 a.m. CST

    cash907 Aint that the truth.

    by gotilk

    December is hell for those who rely on TV to get them through tedium. For me it's the workouts and the long doctor's office waiting room hours. (not for me, I'm alright) Thank goodness for my netbook and decent battery life. AND torrent networks. Especially private ones. Torrents... DVR... pretty much the same. Especially if you pay for cable/sat anyway. I just find torrents easier for some things, like schedule conflicts when others in the house want to watch a third program on a certain night and when your provider doesn't carry certain networks in HD. (what year is this? 2008??) Only one I feel guilty about is Dexter. I only pay for HBO. These days, HBO go is fine for anything I don't catch with the DVR. But I just can't pay the extra for Showtime. Wish I could. At least I finally got AMC in HD. That took forever and was inexcusable. Breaking Bad in blurry SD? Damned right I torrented it.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 5:48 a.m. CST

    What *projects* do Jackson and Noble have going?

    by gotilk

    I'd like to know.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Ackles and Padalecki are signed for 1 more year of Supernatural

    by Mahaloth

    So I expect season 8 to be it.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    The hell with "Fringe." Watch tonight's "Young Justice!"

    by Peter David

    6:30 PM Eastern, Cartoon Network. I wrote it. Check it out. PAD

  • Then starting Christmas Eve, we watch A Christmas Story for 24 hours straight, that or the Yule Log loop if one doesn't have a fireplace. What do you Brits do?

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Is Grimm good?

    by moorE12

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 8:25 a.m. CST


    by Mike

    has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet -- you're totally right... I hate the holiday episodes of my shows, especially the comedies... Holiday episodes never further the ongoing arcs and just seem gimmicky. Although last week's Supernatural is an exception... they did the 'wedding episode' and it was hilarious... i'll tell ya, when those supernatural writers want to be funny, they're hilarious... one of the funniest episodes of TV I've ever seen was the supernatural episode where they play the actors who play their roles in the TV show about them...

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST

    peter david

    by Michael Lunney

    Love Young Justice, great artwork, intelligently told tales. I will be watching tonight to see how your writing stacks up. I'm sure it will be great. Tonight is also the last episode of Brave and the Bold. Sad to see that go. It was a dream- come-true series highlighting, it seems, all of the DC characters from the Silver Age. Wildly entertaining stuff.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Brave and Bold

    by Peter David

    Yeah, I'm gonna miss that, too. What a great series. I even liked their over-the-top portrayal of Aquaman (I loved when he and the Aqua-family were on a road trip and the Atom bangs up against his windshield, fighting someone, and Aquaman just knocks them aside with the windshield wiper. Kind of put the Atom's adventures in perspective.) PAD

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Grimm is on the bubble between going good or bad.

    by HarrysNemesis

    For fans of the genre, there's not a ton of other stuff to watch, so.... but as far as the show, it has potential. I like where the mythology and backstory are going and the conspiracy stuff is somewhat intriguing. The dialogue and writing needs to improve and is the biggest problem with the show. It's just ok. I like the supporting actors on the show quite a bit... the sidekick cop and the helpful blutbag. The main guy is likeable but fairly cardboard as far as acting, but I think like the rest of the show he's also got some potential. I can see this show either getting really good or god awful depending on how the writing develops. I had thought it would probably get cancelled quick but it seems lucky it's on fridays because looks like it's doing well enough in the ratings to get a real chance to see what it develops into. There's not a lot else on Fridays so I will probably keep giving it a chance.

  • The extreme plot arcs have not really translated into 'wow' moments for me overall the last couple of seasons and the characters keep changing makes it hard to really connect to them in the same way as the first few seasons as well. I liked where the characters from the pre-split universes were heading together as a group and feel they had just hit their stride when the alternate universe versions of themselves came in and start distracting from all they had built. Keep the twists, but keep the characters too. Let them grow, don't completely change their motivations and personalities every season with new alternate versions. It is TIRING.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    store your shows

    by Himbo

    Am I the only one that stacks Fall TV that I don't have a chance to get to? I've got Burn Notice from August that I Tivo'd and is sitting on my PC, waiting for the December doldrums. CASTLE too.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Not sure if I'll be back for Fringe

    by bah

    The wife and I are both pretty "meh" about it these days. Unless the end of the season blows me away utterly, this is probably the last season I'll watch, renewed or not.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    "Fringe" has gone topsy-turvy and lost it's purpose.

    by cookylamoo

    Fringe was originally a show about an female FBI agent who confronted the unknown with the help of her two assistants. Now, the series is about the two assistants and how the FBI agent does their legwork. The best Fringe was season one and the beginning of season three, why, because then it was about Olivia. What happened to the vast conspiracies and mystery. Now it's just Jackson and Noble hamming it up and the mad scientist of the week. If they wanted to save this series, they should put the focus back on Olivia where it belongs.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Aquaman's family vacation made me cry laughing...

    by Billyeveryteen

    R.I.P. Brave & The Bold.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Fringe could wrap up this season

    by FrodoFraggins

    There's nothing spectacular going on really.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Further proof that NBC sucks

    by dukeroberts

    Chuck is not available online or On Demand. Screw you, NBC! You put it on Friday, when nobody is home, and then don't allow other means for people to see it. Screw you, NBC!

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Intersect Morgan Grimes is stupid. Way to ruin the end of Chuck.

    by jimbojones123

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Intersect Morgan Grimes is stupid. Way to ruin the end of Chuck.

    by jimbojones123

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Intersect Morgan Grimes is stupid. Way to ruin the end of Chuck.

    by jimbojones123

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Intersect Morgan Grimes is stupid. Way to ruin the end of Chuck.

    by jimbojones123

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST


    by The Garbage Man

    Young Justice has been consistently great, glad to hear you're a part of it. Have you written more than the one episode? Any chance you'll do some writing for the Avengers series? I know they're wrapped on season 2 but it would be nice to see more Hulk-centric episodes in season 3...

  • Set a recording even so I won't miss it.

  • She was talking with her crackly voice for some reason.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Did anyone else catch GEEKTIME! today?

    by SwollenGoat

    I only sorta half-heard Ralph's theory about what's up with this Peter that has returned. Something about him being Peter from this universe. Doesn't sound plausible, but I only caught half of what he said.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to Green Lantern

    by K-Gin

    Last week's opener was really good...and I appreciate that they didn't do an origin story to start it off.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    seconded on green lantern

    by rakesh patel

    great first ep.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I'm not one of the cool kids... I actually LIKE Fringe... A LOT

    by BrannigansLaw

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by Alientoast

    Have you watched the show? 1) Morgan got a trojan horse version of the Intersect that turned him evil 2) The preview for tonight makes it pretty clear he has it removed.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Garbage Man

    by Peter David

    Yes. I have a second episode this season, and I've written two more for next season. PAD

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Chuck has a pretty good Star Wars joke tonight

    by Alientoast

    The intersect erased all of Morgan's Star Wars knowledge, so Chuck gives him all the movies and tells him to watch A New Hope first. Then after Chuck leaves, Casey tells Morgan that Phantom Menace is the best and everyone loves that movie the best, thus forever sabotaging Morgan's "first time" Star Wars experience ;)

  • First season was an intro to the Fringeverse, second season was the revelaing of the alternate universe, and the third was the battle between the universes. I'm sure there's some grand plan, but the "Where's Peter" and now the "Who's this guy" thing is played. I know it's neat to play with the changed paths of Olivia, Walter, etc, but the original dynamic was a huge part of the show. Find out what happened with the machine, fix it, and wrap it up.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern

    by mongo126

    A big +1 to the first show. Love the writing, but still digesting the animation style. I still miss Justice League/Unlimited though. Best superhero show ever.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Series final of Brave and the Bold was excellent

    by Terrence

    Great way to end the series, and a slight swipe at all those who hated on it over the course of its run.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    OK, maybe they do need to wrap up Fringe.

    by mongo126

    I don't need to see a third version of the same characters. The preview for the 2nd half of the season looks promising, though.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Supernatural, still lousy as ever.

    by Shermdawg

    Who's writing this shit now? What's with the weak ass bottom of the barrel double entendres? That unbelievably bush league photo shop sequence? Yeah Bobby's heart to heart with Dean in the van was great, as well as the guy they've got playing Dick Roman, but man those bright spots are really encased in crap. Also, whoever approved the shitty cg Leviathan reveal is an idiot.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST

    The entire tone of Supernatural has changed this season

    by smackfu

    right down to the aesthetics. This show used to be dark, dirty and gritty, you could tell the lighting guy took pride in his work. Now it's bright, colorful, and lit like a hospital ER. And the wacky organ music that used to only play on the tongue-in-cheek episodes now plays throughout every episode. Season 6 had it's issues, but at least there was still a sense of gravitas maintained and the spirit of the show kept alive. IMO they really messed up by chickening out on the 'Cass as God' angle. This whole season should have been them dealing with that situation, rather than that situation Deus-Ex-Machina-ing (Cass-Ex-Machina?) itself to resolution in the season premiere.

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10 p.m. CST


    by Oldnewbie

    I think the Cass-is-Gpd angle would have been far more interesting than this Leviathan thing. As for "Fringe". I gave up after the previous weeks episode. This mushy universe we're in makes it hard to discern what happened in the past seasons from what didn't. Obviously nothing involving William Bell in his later years happened and Walter is not the owner of Massive Dynamics. Also no cow in the lab. Yet the replicants were in the timeline, as was the alternate Olivia; yet it is unclear if our Olivia was in the alternate world. So it's a confusing jumble... like trying to figure out something you know well but having pieces missing that you may not know are missing until you stumble upon them missing!. The more I write about "Fringe" the more I am realizing that "Supernatural" isn;t all that bad this season!!

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Fringe was pretty solid tonite...but expected more of a cliffhanger.

    by Cheif Brody

    Introducing Nina Sharp's creepy nocturnal surveillence crew...spying on Olivia was pretty cool...but I wanted an Observer close...looks like I gotta wait til December for that. <p> Now we gotta watch love blossom between Olivia & Agent Lee this season? Dear God...I knew that was coming and now that it's arrived I'm even LESS enthused. Love triangles suck the life out of any show for me. But, from the promos, looks like Fauxlivia takes an interest in Peter right off the hopefully it'll be a love square soon. <p> Speaking of which...Ever think that Peter was removed from the current timeline by someone in the FUTURE...trying to prevent Baby Henry from ever being born...ala Terminator? Perhaps THEY had a hand in burying all the components of the Machine all over the place exactly to insure Peter would be erased from exsistence...but the Observers are trying to keep that scenario from happening? <p> Is Baby Henry...John Connor?

  • Nov. 18, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    BTW...that's two back to back Romance cases on Fringe.

    by Cheif Brody

    Last week was Stephen Root trying to use quantum physics to prolong the time he had with his Alzhiemer's inflicted wife...and this week was The Invisible Man trying to become visible long enough to get up the courage to speak to Elevator Girl. <p> Think the writers are getting mushy this season? Last week Peter was trying to let Olivia know they use to be an item...but balked...this week Olivia was trying to reach out to Lincoln, but got sidetracked by sleeping gas. Was kinda hopin Astrid would finally get to hook up with someone this season...I mean, why does Olivia get to have all the fun. Season 4 is all about the unrequited love, I guess. <p> But...Fringe doesn't seem to have the "Bomb Under The Table" tension from previous seasons. Pausing to smell the roses seems risky, considering the low ratings. Hope they are allowed to ramp up the Doomsday Device again before FOX pulls the rug out from under them. <p> Anyone else have a LOST Farraday/Elenor flashback when Walter busted out the rat maze to prove his point?

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST

    December's a relief

    by oisin5199

    It's when I can finally catch up on all the shows clogging up my DVR. Plus all the on demand content I want to get to.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Nikita's the definition of guilty pleasure

    by Charles Calthrop

    Lyndsy Fonseca pole dancing, Melinda Clarke torturing a guy w/ a hammer and a brain surgery needle while wearing a tight dress, plus the usual Maggie Q stripping down to her underwear scene. Good times.

  • Dexter season 7 and 8? I made two comments on it, but now the article and my comments are gone (it show up if you site search Dexter). Now I'm noticing some other stuff is gone, too. Like the Pan Am cancellation post. Weird, maaaan. Weird.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Supernatural makes me furious

    by David Cloverfield

    There are still some pretty well written, well acted scenes, and a few good ideas, but man, they made a few very bad decisions. The Leviathans, who were supposed to be Lovecrafian monsters (so much that they featured Lovecraft) are now just took the place of demons. Instead of possessing people, they eat them and take their place, taking over companies and such. Been there, done that. What is infuriating, that they had perfectly good post apocalyptic baddies lined up in the form of the Gods of the older mythologies, who seemed more than ready to step up and fill the power vacuum in season 5. Winchesters against Egyptian, Indian, Norse gods returning to the world, bringing all their monsters, would`ve been fun as hell. No need for the silly Leviathan CGI (SN always knew it`s limits with creatures, played by regular humans with some hints of otherwordly power like black eyes or shadow wings.) Even the fairies were more interesting in season 6 than these goddamn Leviathans.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    They really need to do more BnB style Aquaman...

    by OutsideChance

    It's the best version of the character ever.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    I can't disagree on "Supernatural"

    by Peter David

    I've been a huge fan of the series for some time now, but lately it's been all over the place. Dean kills Jewel Staite's character even though Sam begs him not to and she doesn't seem to pose a further threat; a week later, he walks away from a couple of homicidal witches who continue to be a threat. I know the Leviathans are a work in progress, I get that...indeed, rewatching season 6 makes a lot more sense knowing where it wound up. Frankly, I have trouble believing that the Cas-as-God storyline was tossed aside simply because they had no idea where to go with it. There were PLENTY of directions they could have gone. It struck me more as a cost-cutting maneuver, trimming the budget. Let Misha Collins go completely; minimize the number of times that Jim Beaver shows up. I don't know that of a certainty; I've no inside information. But I've seen similar things happen on other shows where I DID know that budgets were cut that it has the same sort of feel to me. Nevertheless, there's now a Castiel-sized hole in the series that the Leviathans sure as hell haven't filled. It's very frustrating. PAD

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST


    by palewook

    for any fans of Yvonne Strahovski, last night's episode was awesome. 29 minutes in, white shorts, a visit from the camel, check. brown top 20 minutes later and a great bit of jiggle tv as she walks across the parking lot.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Re : harrysnemesis I Like Where Fringe Is Going

    by Real Deal

    This is just another facit of what's going on with the multiple universes. It's also a great way for the actors to showcase their talents in portraying their roles in another version. I really think that the ultimate solution to their problems will involve things on a multiple universe scale. So far this season they've been able to run this arc along with really good stand alone stories. I don't think they're lost at all.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST

    asimovlives Needs To Get A Life

    by Real Deal

    Alot of us here like fringe. We already know you don't and have this thing agaist JJ for bringing Star Trek Back from the grave. So why keep annoying folks here who like the show? When you do that and we already know your stand you become a troll. I mean it's not like you're going to change anything.

  • I think that might be why I enjoy it more than some. I just really don't care at all about the big picture/end game or answers with this show. I enjoy it for its episode of the week weirdness, and especially for Olivia and Walter who are great characters. Which is not to say that I don't like the bigger arc episodes, infact they're quite good, but I never catch myself speculating about 'what will happen next' or 'where is this all going?' for Fringe.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by Alientoast

    Yvonne awesomeness aside, last night was a pretty damned good episode. I like how the Viper starts monologing to John Casey and he just shoots and kills everyone before she can even finish. Then the bit at the end with Morgan where he felt bad for ruining Star Wars, so he gives Morgan the original 3 Indiana Jones movies and lies to him that there is no 4th movie to protect him from watching it ;p

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    The next episode of Fringe looks awesome

    by Extr3m1st

    Can't wait to see it, I love this show.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Peter David is correct - Supernatural's budget has been cut.

    by I_Love_LanaLang

    And that includes the budget for hiring decent writers. I'm seeing a lot more minor actors/bit parts on the show, which is just how it was in its first season. They've also returned to the Monster of the Week formula from the first season with a bit of the Leviathan nonsense thrown into the mix. As poor as this season has been, it's STILL better than anything else on Friday night tv. Sad, but true.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST


    by palewook

    yeah i laughed hard on the casey screwing with morgan about the watch 1-3 first, then spoiling 4-6. and the indy, "there's only 3 of them."

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    No one has mentioned The Gifted Man, my favorite new show...

    by iontyre

    so I will. BTW, it outdrew Fringe!

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    the soup / fringe / a gifted man / boss / supernatural

    by rakesh patel

    Anyone catch this weeks soup? some hilarious stuff from joel, and Alison Brie appeared as well. I don't understand all the fringe ambivalence, it s a solid show, the quality of eps are above average. This ep was a good one. I'm hoping this will last another season. there's a woeful amount of good scifi on at the moment, why the hell would you want this cancelled? More reality shows? I'm kinda surprised by Peters attitude to Olivia and his dad, even if it isn't his Walter and Olivia. What if he can't get back? A gifted man, well im on autopilot with this one, the eps was bearable with all the supporting actors on go. Really his ghostly ex wife seems like a member of the support cast as well. Would anyone know the difference if she was alive? What's exactly her role here? If she passed over, would any of the viewing public actually notice/care? Boss, another solid episode, Mayor Kane seems to be full on with his illness. If it makes it to the 5th season is he just going to sit naked in his chair and no one bats an eyelid? Supernatural standard filler ep, really needs to get moving, get cas and Crowley.. and death (he's sorely under utilised) back into it.

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Grimm would be so much better...

    by Jarek

    If they'd lose the bad CG face-morphs and actually put some effort into some practical FX. As it stands, it's the weakest of the shows I watch from Friday (Nikita, Fringe, Supernatural, Chuck), yet I still tune in.... for now.

  • Nov. 20, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Grimm needs more Bitsie Tulloch

    by Charles Calthrop

    She was cute, chatty and a bit naughty when she appeared recently on Ferguson. Give her more screen time.

  • Nov. 20, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Brave and the Bold was...


    a very cool wrap up to a fun series. who ever thought we would see all of those characters on TV.

  • Nov. 20, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Fringe isn't missing direction, its on a slow burn

    by thedarklingthrush

    Trust me, it looks justconfusing because none of the characters have any idea what's going on yet

  • I loved it, untill the end of season 3. The whole "UNIVERSES combine, Peter dissapears.sort of" story just sucks. Every now and then, there are things I appreciate within the show.And, I applaud the writers, showrunners for changing the premise(every season), so it's not formulaic.But, lately-this showed bored me.

  • Nov. 21, 2011, 1:24 a.m. CST

    No one cares about the journey of the Non Fringe Cast

    by StarQrtrs

    That's the problem with the last two seasons. We spent half of Season 3 in the alternate universe only to see them basically be ignored (until Jan). This year is even worse. We have a whole new Olivia, Walter, Ester etc with all different story lines and histories. The problem with that is we don't care because it's not OUR Olivia or our Walter. These stories that they are experiences are meaningless in the larger scale if they never experienced what the viewer watched for 2 seasons. I'm holding out that the Jan episode will fix this problem what with return of the observers.