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Published at: Nov. 4, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!

Peter popped out of the water but nobody knows who he is!

Fox says of tonight’s installment, “Novation”:

In the aftermath of recent shocking events, things really escalate when the translucent shapeshifters return. As the threat and circumstances intensify, a former Massive Dynamic scientist Malcolm Truss (guest star Arye Gross) enters the fold. Meanwhile, Nina Sharp pays Walter a visit in the lab.

Fox says of next week’s installment, “And Those We Left Behind”:

The Fringe team must find the pattern between tragic time loop anomalies. As the investigation unfolds, Raymond (guest star Stephen Root), an electrical engineer, and his wife Kate (guest star Romy Rosemont), a professor of theoretical physics, enter the picture.

Fox says of the Nov. 18 installment, “Wallflower”:

When a man mysteriously dies by an invisible force, his body rapidly begins turning ghostly white. The Fringe team learns that this is not an isolated incident, and there's evidence that links the predator to someone who passed away with an unknown genetic disorder. Meanwhile, Olivia suffers from migraines.

“Back To Where You’ve Never Been,” the subsequent episode, was bumped out of November sweeps by game seven of the World Series.

Spoilers for future episodes in invisotext. Jared Harris, who plays Lane Pryce on “Mad Men” and played ZFT leader David Robert Jones on “Fringe,” has been spotted alongside a body double on the “Fringe” set. In the first-season finale Jones, who had worked out a way to teleport himself, was split in two trying to reunite with his old boss William Bell on Earth 2. Is Jones alive and now conspiring with his own Earth 2 doppleganger?

9 p.m. Friday. Fox.

Fridays, Sept. 9-Oct. 28, 2011
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; previous weeks in parentheses)
7.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Fox Baseball
2.1 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Grimm
1.4 (1.8) (1.7) (1.6) (1.7) (1.8) (0.8) (0.7) CSI NY
1.3 (1.0) (1.5) (1.4) (1.6) (2.0) (1.5) (1.8) Dateline
1.3 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Gold Rush
1.2 (2.0) (1.2) (1.1) (1.2) (1.0) (1.2) (1.0) 20/20
1.1 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) CSI Miami
1.0 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Chuck
1.0 (1.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Extreme MHE
1.0 (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.2) (1.4) (---) (---) A Gifted Man
1.0 (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Gold Rush Alaska
0.8 (0.9) (1.0) (1.0) (0.9) (1.1) (0.7) (1.0) WWE Smackdown
0.7 (0.8) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Robot Chicken
0.7 (0.8) (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (---) (0.3) Supernatural
0.6 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Flying Wild Alaska
0.6 (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) House of Payne
0.6 (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.6) (0.6) (---) (0.3) Nikita
0.6 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Very Funny News
0.6 (0.6) (0.7) (0.6) (0.5) (---) (0.5) (---) Wizards of Waverly
0.5 (0.8) (0.8) (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) (0.7) (---) American Restoration
0.5 (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) Diners, Drive-Ins And Dives
0.5 (0.4) (0.5) (0.6) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) Ghost Adventures
0.5 (0.6) (0.6) (0.6) (0.7) (---) (---) (---) Jessie
0.5 (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) Say Yes To The Dress
0.5 (---) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (---) Star Wars: Clone Wars
0.5 (---) (0.4) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (0.6) Thundercats
0.4 (0.4) (---) (0.6) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) ANT Farm
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Ben 10
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Brides of BH
0.4 (0.7) (0.4) (0.5) (0.6) (0.7) (1.0) (1.0) College Football
0.4 (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Crave
0.4 (0.3) (0.4) (0.5) (0.3) (---) (---) (---) Fashion Police
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Meet The Browns
0.4 (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (0.4) (0.5) The Soup
0.3 (0.5) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Hairy Bikers
0.3 (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) Sanctuary

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  • Nov. 4, 2011, 2:31 a.m. CST

    WHOA! a Supernatural TalkBack?

    by Xiphos_2

    Yep I just checked hell did in fact freeze over and pigs have gained the ability to fly.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 3:21 a.m. CST

    with regard to the spoiler

    by newc0253

    was his old boss really William Bell? i thought it was Walternate...

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Has hell frozen over?

    by Bop N Rumble

    Herc is giving talkback space for Supernatural and other shows? Call CNN. Call Fox News. Let the world know. Herc has set foot on the path of cool for the first time in his life.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 4:35 a.m. CST

    I'm intrigued by Fringe this year

    by theGoldbergV

    but I do think the payoff needs to be spectacular to justify the slow build. I still love the interaction of the characters and the procedural stuff, but the ongoing arc is reminding me only slightly of LOST season 6, in that while its enjoyable trying to guess whats going on, you really hope the ultimate reveal will make it all worthwhile. Of course we all know what happened with LOST... But besides the best-forgotten stupidity of 'soul magnets' Fringe is yet to let us down so I remain optimistic...

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Fringe does seem aimless so far this year...

    by FlandersBum

    compared to last year anyways. We had multiple stories going on early last season. They were mostly tied up at seasons end pretty poorly, but at least we knew the directions the show was headed (the machine, Peter's fate, the war between universes, the first ones, that mystery guy at the bowling alley, etc). Hopefully things will pick up, seeing how this is most likely the show's last season.

  • But I think I'm in the minority on that.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Clone wars has been especially good this year so far

    by Rebel Scumb

    The only redeeming thing about the prequels in my opinion is this cartoon show it spawned. It always amazes me how much of the prequel material the show has managed to strengthen or justify. I can only imagine how good the show would be if the movies it's spunoff from had actually been good I wish Lucas had just written a rough outline and then given it to Filloni and his people to actually write and direct, seems like they have a much better understanding of what fans need from star wars. Padme/Senate stuff still sucks though, even on this show.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Friday night and I'll be chatting with a bunch of stay-at-home geeks!

    by Bodhizefa1313

    And I couldn't be happier! Thanks Herc.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Friday has let me down recently

    by Himbo

    Admittedly, I'm behind on my Tivo. Just finished Supernatural "Shut up Dr. Phil" with Cordie and Spike. I was happy to see the actors, but unimpressed with the ep. Watched Chuck season premiere last night. Was a bit clunky. Wife reassured me that opening eps of Chuck are always clunky, as they are undoing whatever damage was done in the preceding season finale. Once the pieces are back in place, it gets fun. I hope she's right. As it is, the best thing about the ep was Strahotski-flavored cheesecake. Also, it was good to see Mark Hamill and Ethan Phillips. Adam Baldwin is always good. I have no interest in Grimm. Don't like the look or premise, and it is on opposite Supernatural. Of course, When Supernatural first launched I dismissed it as Charmed with dudes. How wrong I was. Of course, I am really enjoying not seeing eps until they have several seasons, so I don't get left hanging (Looking at you Firefly).

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    So, is tonight's Fringe the ep was was bumped off by football last week?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Herc, where is the viewership ratings for Fringe?

    by I_Love_LanaLang

    I don't see it on the list.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Friday is a helluva day for geek tv.

    by V'Shael

    First up : Supernatural. The Leviathan arc is surprisingly decent. Last weeks plot to get the brothers on the nations most wanted lists, was surprisingly good. Crowleys scene at the end, genius. I'd like to see Mark Sheppard team up with the Winchesters this season. As kings of hell go, he's been brilliant. Next up : Nikita. I've been a fan of Nikita in all her incarnations, and this may be the last year for this one. Watching Percy's slow rise back to power has been really entertaining for me. Then Fringe : I really hope the writing this season is markedly better. It so often borders on greatness but is let down by some sloppy plotting or something. Next up Chuck : I just want to see Yvonne in as many slutty outfits as possible before seasons end. The show really nuked its own fridge when it had Brandon Routh in. Never recovered.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Let's be honest, Supernatural is still the best show on Friday nights.

    by I_Love_LanaLang

    I say that knowing full well that the writers have gone back to the old "monster of the week" formula. Sure, Supernatural is a tired show these days, but what does that say about the other shows on Fridays when Supernatural is obviously still superior to them?

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    A Supernatural Talkback

    by rakesh patel

    I must have been pulled into a fringe alternative universe. Thought last weeks ending was a bit week " dean, i cant stand to be around you ..." c'mon sammy how many times have you said that!

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Supernatural rocks again

    by Bop N Rumble

    I like the Leviathans storyline, but hate the CGI. Last week's episode was cool. Can't wait for the next one, but I hope the big bad is not the Leviathan boss. And Mark A. Sheppard is annoying but funny as the king of hell. It seems he has the patent for playing obnoxious characters. And Nikita.. Maggie Q is hot and the only reason to watch Nikita.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Sam walking away would carry more weight...

    by Disgruntled_Chinaman

    if the preview didn't have them in a diner in their FBI suits cracking jokes.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Fringe has been brutal this year... waste

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    It's just been a month of "is Peter coming back, is he not?" with rejected monster of the week scripts from previous years. Now we're going to get a month of "how will Peter make them remember? Will the Watchers stop him or help him?" If feels like Olivia being trapped in the other universe again. Potential to be an interesting landscape for a storyline (Peterless alternate universe), but ultimately crippled because you know they're going to come back. Maybe less so since Peter being gone really had virtually no effect on the universe other than conviently fixing the alt universe problem. It's just been a lot of flailing by the writers. Not really doing anything other than giving some of their supporting cast more screen time.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Goddamn World Series.

    by CatVutt

    So...Back to Where You've Never been probably won't air until like...January now, right?

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Almost didn't recognize Hammill

    by Truxton Spangler

    from last week's Chuck. He and Campbell must hang out (often) at the same fast food joints. Good thing it's the final season, I don't know how entertaining Morgan will be as Intersect v2.0, no matter how many stunt guest stars appear. I'll enjoy Nikita while it lasts. It would be funny if they did some more stunt casting of their own, and have Peta Wilson show up. We've already seen Alberta Watson. They could reunite her and Glazer; he'd make a great head of Oversight.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Yeah and why not include BATMAN: Brave and the Bold?

    by Michael Lunney

    One of the best animated series, ever! KLot's of great shit on tonight.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Goddamn Beavis and Butthead = funniest show of the night

    by Mr. Voodoo Potato Head

    What's that on his hat? That's his name so he won't get lost.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    oops wrong talkback

    by Mr. Voodoo Potato Head

    as you were...

  • These are some of the animated BEST shows. Dang.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Herc, I really like these catchallbacks.

    by blackwood

    Sunday is my TV night, though. I don't watch any of these shows. I started watching THUNDERCATS and it was, okay, I guess, but I got bored pretty quick. Also please do a story about SPARTACUS returning on January 27th so I can say how excited yet sad yet excited I am for SPARTACUS to return on January 27th.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Supernatural, Fringe, Nikita

    by KidStellar

    Supernatural: Should have ended with seaons 5. also why arent they trying to help get their brother Adam get back. They just convinently forgot about him. That being said, the show is still somewhat interesting, but just not as good as it was from season 3 to season 5. Fringe: I keep waiting for it to get really good so far it's okay, but it has so much potential. Olivia: Displays powers on and off but they never explain what exactly her powers are and why she cant controll them like others have been able to do. Peter: Has done nothing good in 4 seasons he is just there to handle Walter, even though the characters is a jackof all trades and has a shady past, we never get to see any of it, or atleast elemnets of it wooven into the story. Also the whole soul mates thing with Olivia=LAME. I thought he was into her sister, that was more interesting Liccoln: Is cool both versions of him are more intersting than Peter. Astrid: No story line whatsoever she is just Walter's nanny. Nikita Is interesting but the version with Peta Wilson and Roy Dupris was sooo much better.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    I gave up on Supernatural...

    by GBH

    As soon as the word Leviathon came up I said. "Thats it, no more!" I suffered through the last 3 seasons and besides a couple of stand alone episodes the show has gone to squat. The show should have ended with the Impala - Sam goes to hell episode, or one might argue it should have ended longer still, but enough is enough.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Still enjoying Supernatural

    by Mr. Voodoo Potato Head

    It isn't on the level of seasons 3-5, but it's still pretty great. Hopefully we'll see more Crowley/Winchester interactions, those are always interesting.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    blah, best thing of the whole week was

    by quintana007

    PSYCH!!! That Superhero episode was all kinds of awesome

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Why isn't anyone here talking about Grimm?

    by sweeneydave

    I want to talk about Grimm. I'll go first. Okay, Grimm is similar to Angel. Now you go.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    That's true, sweeneydave. Grimm is similar to Angel.

    by sweeneydave

    Let's hope we get some female characters soon that DON'T get eaten or end up in a hospital bed. Ha ha ha!!!

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Bring back Castiel

    by FreeBeer

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST

    And, sweeneydave, isn't it clever how the monster hunter

    by sweeneydave

    is called a GRIMM? It's making a connection to the Grimm Brothers Fairy Tales! I wonder which came first in this world?!

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Too true, sweeneydave! And also, it harkens to the

    by sweeneydave

    definition of the word "grim", which means somber and gloomy! There's just so much cleverness wrapped up in the title alone!

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    And, sweeneydave, did you see there is some sort of

    by sweeneydave

    deeper consipracy in the shadows - just like all the hep cats are doing these days! That way we feel "safe" with the show since it's not doing anything too new. Yay for comfortable recognizable formulas!!

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST

    What episode will Supernatural rehash this week?

    by Shermdawg

    And will Bobby Singer tap that ass?

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Bobby is gonna get all up in THAT

    by Xiphos_2

    He'll show the hot Sheriff broad who her daddy is.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Fringe really, really annoyed me tonight

    by Scorchy

    Peter flat-out tells them that these shapeshifters can imitate at a molecular level. So what does Olivia do? She immediately assumes the shapeshifter jumped in the water and the wounded agent was really the wounded agent. I knew IMMEDIATELY it was the shapeshifter. That the idea NEVER crossed ANYONE'S mind is ridiculously stupid. Really, really annoying and incredibly frustrating.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Friday has four shows I watch

    by FrodoFraggins

    Fringe: It was pretty disappointing. I'm not a fan of Peter but they should of dealt with him much more. Supernatural: Also disappointing. They've totally blown off the fact that Sam and Dean were seen as nationally famous murderers. The doppelgangers were a good idea, but they totally botched the aftermath. Gold Rush Alaska: This show is a guilty pleasure. The Hoffman family are just so idiotic that it's actually frustrating to watch them. Derren Brown: This is a UK show from the great mentalist. He never fails to entertain.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    without going into deep specifics...

    by eloy

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    without going into deep specifics...

    by eloy

    ... would someone clue me in regarding how Supernatural was so cool during seasons 3-5? I watched the first one only, back when Jeffrey Dean Morgan played their dad, then I couldn´t go on, but I personally was really, really liking the show. How were those later seasons even superior to the show´s start? And, would you say the current quality level is comparable to that of the first year? Because, if that´s the case, you´re gonna help me finishing to make my mind up about getting all dvd seasons (maybe even blu, if I can squeeze the cash) of this sucker to get up to date.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Supernatural was so lame.

    by Shermdawg

    As soon as Dean was all "THAT'S THE CHICK!", you knew damn well it wasn't the chick. And honestly, we're back to burning ghost bones? End it.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    they'

    by Xiphos_2

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:04 a.m. CST

    e never went away from burning bones

    by Xiphos_2

    Its the mythology of the show for kicking ghosts to the curb.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:05 a.m. CST

    OK that was weird

    by Xiphos_2

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Fringe was awesome tonight

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    I loved the previous 4 episodes, but they were definatly builder episodes. Things are starting to kick into gear again.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Young Justice, then Chuck, Ben 10, Thundercats!

    by Darth_Nader

    Young Justice had a Kobiashi Maru episode tonight. Awesome. Chuck: Ok, so Morgan appears to be the big bad this season. But if he's losing his mind, how can he remember Batman and Robin, and not Luke Skywalker? You can really see the budget cuts on the show though. Ben 10: Two awesome references to Captain Planet and XFiles. Even the soundtrack and some of the visuals were just like a 90's cartoon. Thundercats: Man, this show is really growing on me. Snarf is no longer annoying. Tigra does stuff. Lion-o doesn't always save the day. I've given up on Batman:BatB, Grimm, Supernatural, and Fringe.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST

    xiphos_2

    by Shermdawg

    It was a season one level episode tonight is what I'm trying to say. It's just a retread. At least when they pulled that shit on Crowley it was part of the ongoing storyline.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Also, about Thundercats...

    by Shermdawg

    ...they got rid of Monkeyman, Vultureman, and Jackalman, but bring back the fucking Berbils!? C'mon now.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 1:24 a.m. CST

    We got a hint of Monkeyman, Vultureman, and Jackalman with the flashback episode

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    and the Monkey/Vulture/Jackal races. So I would bet that its only a matter of time before we get Monkeyman, Vultureman, and Jackalman, Rataro, the Lunatacs, Berserkers, Hatchi-man, the Snow guy (forgot his name, his cat was Snow Meow though), Bengali and the Thundercat girl and all of the other classic characters. This show seems to be a slow burn with introducing the characters from the old show.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 5:27 a.m. CST

    @darth_nader and Evil Morgan

    by Alientoast

    It wasn't an all-and-done thing...you'll notice that towards the start of the episode, he was still in nerd mode, but as he used the intersect more, his brain began to purge all the nerd-data (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc). While I think he will end up turning into a villain for awhile (at least until they can purge the intersect), I think Beckman will end up being the bigbad this season. Afterall, she was the one who tried to pass off the potentially tainted intersect and it just so happened that Morgan used it vs. Chuck.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg maybe that's what you meant

    by Xiphos_2

    but that's not what you wrote. If you are going to be that picky about SN, which has always had monster of the week episodes for its entire run with a majority probably being about ghosts, you might want to stop watching it because you are finding all sorts of silly things to be upset over.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    BATMAN: Brave and the Bold (for the people mentioning it)

    by palewook

    tonight's episode is the conclusion of the series. canceled after 65 episodes. CN's next batman series starts in 2013, Beware the Batman. With a gun wielding alfred and a ninja side-kick. I'm not making this up. The animation still image for the series looks like hell too. Google Beware The Batman and prepare to be concerned.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    What the Hell, Herc, where's our American Horror Story talkback?

    by heroic_duo

    Seriously, AHS is the best thing on TV right now

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    But I do love Fringe

    by heroic_duo

    And curse the monkey jackasses that moved it to the Friday death slot

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    regarding Chuck and Morgan and Luke Skywalker

    by jim

    Was it just me or did anyone else find that line "I wondered who the Luke Skywalker of your group was" to be really clunky and lame? I've never heard anyone ever referred to as the Luke Skywalker of a group. What does that even mean? And we're supposed to take Carrie Anne Moss seriously as a heavy after she makes a Star Wars reference in an interview for a new spy? I get that it was to demonstrate that Morgan was losing himself to the intersect, but that point had already been made by Chuck bringing the Indy thing up to Casey, and the fact that Morgan was defecting to the rival company. "Who's Luke Skywalker" was overselling it.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    @Big Jim

    by Alientoast

    Earlier in the episode Morgan didn't really make it clear if he had forgotten the info...he either dismissed it as a "whatever" or didn't seem interested. Considering that he is an ULTRA Star Wars nerd (remember the Star Wars action figure intervention episode?), the "Who is Luke Skywalker?" really demonstrates that the Intersect he downloaded has really fucked with his brain. I agree that Carrie Moss saying it was kind of random, but it got the point across. In anycase, I see Chuck fans flipping the hell out about Morgan having the Intersect. Give the writers a chance to do their thing. If he had it removed in episode 1, people would have cried about them using a reset button too soon. I always give a show at least 5-6 episodes into a season before I make judgement on it.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST

    alientoast, for me I found it very forced

    by jim

    I get the point they were making, and they were somewhat subtle about it earlier with Morgan acting a bit distracted when Chuck made the Indy reference. However, they revisited it again at the end with Chuck voicing his concerns that whatever's going on with Morgan isn't the same as what he had gone through. They could have made the same point without it seemingly coming out of nowhere. Morgan had made a Batman reference earlier in the episode. Having Carrie Anne Moss say she wondered who the Batman of the group was would have worked better, at least for me. Comparing someone who works for a security/spy organization to Luke Skywalker doesn't make much sense to me as I don't see the comparison. How do they relate? Batman on the other hand makes for a much better, less forced, comparison. And every nerd knows him just as well as Luke Skywalker. It's a small thing, and perhaps I'm being a bit nitpicky. I just found it to be trying too hard to make a point that had already been made, and doing it clumsily.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    The show running on fumes and constantly rehashing episodes...

    by Shermdawg

    ...isn't a silly thing to complain about. Last week they revisited "Jus In Belo" and this week? Season one shit. It was like the last X-files movie last night. It was a easy filler episode. It has nothing to do with being a monster of the week deal. I love monster of the week deals. But this show's writing....in the past...kept things fresh. Last night? We've seen that shit before, but back then the twists weren't so clumsily handled, and it would still keep the tension of the ongoing storyline and build on it. But not last night. Last night they prematurely jettisoned the latest rift of the Winchesters when they could've built off of it....which would admittedly still be "been there, done that" material but a more interesting shit than this season's incredibly cheesy Leviathan angle which is a poor attempt at milking the show. It's demons twice warmed over. The boys don't need a large outfit of supernatural bad guys for them to worry about everytime they take down another. Instead of getting themselves stuck in a rut like this they should've taken the opportunity to take the show somewhere else. To justify CW's shitty decision to extend its run. Right now, they're just playing it safe and pumping out the same stuff. This year, if anything, has made me more sympathetic to season six. Season four even. This year has been lazy on all levels, and I'm sorry if I don't like seeing one of my favorite shows of the last decade being handled like this, and hope its put down before being as badly raped as Smallville was.

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Brave & The Bold

    by Gislef_crow

    Actually, the 11/4 episode was the penultimate episode, and kind of a waste. four mini-episodes, only two of which bother to include Batman. 'Mazing Man was a total waste, what with the Woody Allen vibe. It was kind of like the "Simpsons Spinoff" episode.<p><p> The finale is in two weeks on 11/18. The 11/11 episode is preempted for the Green Lantern CGI premiere. The B:BATB finale is incredible, with Henry Winkler as Ambush Bug and Ted McGinley as Aquaman 2. And CGI Batgirl. And Super-Neon Bat Street Racer!

  • Nov. 5, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Canceling Brave & the Bold is depressing...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Not including this weeks ep, this show has some of the funniest shit I've seen in years. A shame.

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    shermdawg

    by oisin5199

    I'm right with ya, man. This season has been a joke. I'm finding myself caring less and less about the brothers, because they're either going through the same shit over and over again and not learning, or they're just being conveniently written out of corners. It's like not a damn thing has any consequences except when it's convenient for them to happen. And this season arc just has nothing important about it, nothing that's personal. It's just, stop the bad guys. I really hope they put this show out of its misery. Then people can stop bitching about not getting a Supernatural talkback.

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Supernatural has always been good.

    by ParagonComplex

    It got especially good when it delved into religion with God, Satan, angels, etc. Pretty bold move to go that route as well. Supernatural's version of Death being of equal power to God is really good stuff. Castiel was a great character. Bobby has well meshed out. Now that they've lost the favor of Heaven and the majority of the angels are dead; when they die they die. God needs to make an appearance this season.

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 5:36 a.m. CST

    With you 100% domi'sinnerchild

    by Gezoes

    Well said! Frankly, this season better have a huge rabbit in a hat I'm missing, because so far... It's not even ok, it's mediocre, a complete contrast with the smart first three seasons, and downright offending to those who stuck with Fringe until now. I find myself not caring so much anymore. If that's their intention, it's working.

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Hard to get worked up about Chuck

    by Truxton Spangler

    now, or ever. Just running out the string. I did enjoy this week's Nikita more since it focused on the mythology, instead of the mission of the week. And the twist at the end was nice. David Connor lives!

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Fringe is out of steam. Nikita is sadly overlooked.

    by Harlock999

    Yep, I'm really hoping FOX pulls the plug on Fringe after this season. Honestly, it's been a mediocre show that either (a) pulls plots from the far superior X-Files or (b) basks in the glow of an alternate dimension. The (a) plots are fun, but forgettable. The (b) plots are interesting, but ultimately tedious. Fringe has been middling throughout its run. (And I'm assuming its fanbase are generally made up of Lost fans, like myself, who've been waiting for Fringet to finally get really, really good.) It's time to end this thing. Now, Nikita, on the other hand, is a fun, fast-paced, intelligent show about spycraft in the Luc Besson (obviously) /Ian Fleming/S.H.I.E.L.D. tradition. It's often unpredictable, features above-average acting efforts, and is pretty action-packed for a televison series. I'm really hoping the CW keeps Nikita going for a while, at least. Aside from interesting animation such as Young Justice and Clone Wars, Nikita is about the best thing waiting for me on my DVR after a Friday night out...

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    hard to get worked up about chuck?

    by palewook

    Yvonne Strahovski. still works for me. i'd like to break my chuck addiction, its like smoking, hated the habit for years, yet i kept doing it. Yvonne Strahovski keeps me turning into chuck. week by week, year by year.

  • Nov. 6, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Supernatural Fringe & Chuck

    by rakesh patel

    I really think Supernatural needs a better big bad. This season seems a bit disjointed and quite frankly it's suffering without Castiel S5 was brilliant, couldn't understand what else they could really go up against if they had fought the devil, but S6 was decent enough. intact the end of season 6 held a lot more promise of S7 Castiel which wasn't delivered. The buffy masters and carpenter reunion was a bit of a let down to be be frank, especially knowing how good they are in the genre. The boys and bobby need a bigger crew. Fringe, I'm actually digging this season, it's pretty brave to have a whole new amalgamated dimension. However i' hoping that we don't have a long protracted getting to know you couple of eps. They deal with crazy shit every week, but all of a sudden for them having peter bishop appear is too much to deal with?? I'm hoping the rating improve, but if it doesn't that it gets a decent wrap up. I'm on auto pilot with chuck not really digging Morgan with the intersect.. but im betting no one really believes that chuck isnt getting the intersect back. If nothing else i watch it to find out which special guest star they have on next