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Published at: Nov. 2, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST by hercules

 

I am – Hercules!!

Tarzan-like Mexican national and former porn star Ozzy Lusth pulled a “Survivor” first last week, voting HIMSELF onto Redemption Island with a plan so crazy it’ll probably work.

In an effort to prevent his tribe, Savaii, from entering The Big Merge at a numerical disadvantage, Ozzy volunteered for exile.

What could go wrong?

Ozzy could fail to defeat Christine Shields Markoski, who is undefeated in individual challenges. She’s defeated five opponents five weeks in a row on Redeption Island.

Given the promo (and the title of the episode, “Double Agent”) it looks like the tribes do merge this week.

As discussed during last week’s Tribal Council, Ozzy’s plan was to create an elaborate fiction for the benefit of the rival Upolu tribe: Nerdtastic Harvard Law student John Cochran would be portrayed to Upolu as a rogue force who betrayed Ozzy after receiving Ozzy’s hidden immunity idol. Cochran would then be charged with pretending to join forces with Upolu against Savaii, while his true mission is to infiltrate and gather intel.

But will the five other Savaii be willing to maintain the ruse? They all demonstrated little loyalty to Oz three weeks ago when they successfully conspired to banish Elyse, his cuddle-buddy and closest ally.

Once Harvard Law hands him his degree, Cochran may actually prove pretty good at making arguments. Again and again, he manages to talk himself out of expulsion. Last week looked especially dire for the pasty weakling; his mismanagement of a key task during the immunity challenge seemed to seal his fate. Jeff Probst’s hectoring of Cochran during the competition, pointing out again and again how badly he was fucking things up for his team, was brutal. (When Upolu proved victorious, part of me expected Probst to let loose with a Nelson laugh.)

Finally, did anyone think to dress up as Coach this Halloween?

8 p.m. Wednesday. CBS.

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  • Nov. 2, 2011, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Craaaazy move Ozzy

    by FlandersBum

    I admire his guts, but there were just too many ways for Ozzy's plan not to work. I think he just wanted to leave his mark on the game with a memorable move, knowing full well the chances of it working were slim. Should be interesting whatever happens.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Even if Ozzy's move works out

    by Bodhizefa1313

    It was dumb as hell. Christine was already a given to come over to Savaii (she'd been flipping off members of her old tribe and her old tribe went so far as to actively help the other competitor in the Redemption challenge last week), and yet Ozzie somehow believed his team would be at a disadvantage if Christine came out victorious over the likes of Cochrane. Look, I like the nerdy Harvard Law guy okay, but Christine would probably have been just as useful to Savaii, if not moreso, so the risky maneuver by Ozzy seems, at best, superfluous. The only positive thing it would seem to accomplish is to rally the troops if it works out. But in Survivor, momentum only seems to last as long as the next immunity challenge. In summation, Ozzy is nuts.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Total bawsack move...

    by dj_bollocks

    Deserves to crash and burn...

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Hey I give credit to Ozzy

    by vin_diggler

    Sure it is a dumb move but he knows how to keep the show interesting. We don't want to watch survivors play it safe week after week and produce a boring season. We want them to take dumb chances and keep us coming back to watch more people fail miserably. That is the root of what made Survivor so popular to begin with. I say bravo Ozzy!

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Preview during football on Sunday showed the merge

    by ATARI

    So CBS flat-out spoiled their own show, as yes, the merge will be happening this week.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Why does Ozzy want to get Christine out of the game....

    by Goon Bighead

    when it's obvious she hates her team and would gladly vote against them? Doesn't Savaii see her giving her team the finger?

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 8:41 a.m. CST

    agreed

    by Himbo

    Silly move, as the groundwork was laid for Christine to come over to them anyway. They should have totally been a cheer section for her at challenge; unless figured Michayla to win and thereby did not want to alienate M. Christine would have voted with Red-tribe until every blue was gone after merge. Anyway, being at Exile/Redemption, gives others on Red tribe some time to kibbutz. Possible to see a repeat: Ozzy comes home and immediately gets voted out. So Red team really could hope for Ozzy's elimination at Arena, given they still pick up a vote from Christine, and would not have to face O at indiv challenges. Cochrane's chances just got a lot better.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    That picture...

    by Jason

    ...loved that guy in THE ROOM.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Tonight On Reven8e

    by thelordofhell

    Frank finally digs up some dirt on Emily........what kind of dirt? I think he finds the "real" Emily Thorne. What hot clothes will Emily and Victoria be in?........Tune in to find out.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Tonight on Psych

    by thelordofhell

    The guys dress up as superheroes and solve a crime.......Tune in

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Survivor and Reven8e on in 1 night?

    by arzbest

    Great night 'o TV.....

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Reven8e keeps getting better

    by HalJordanSuperstar

    This show has been flawless (except maybe for Declan). They ditched the victim of the week plots at the exact right time.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Ozzy's acting ability

    by Hercules

    Still porn-star level!

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Is Cochran an idiot or very clever?

    by vin_diggler

    Is he still playing a double agent?

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST

    wow!

    by vin_diggler

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Cochran did well

    by Superponte

    Now they may pick off the remaining members of Ozzy's tribe, and when they get down to 7, Cochran is in prime position as a 4th person in an alliance to boot coach and take control

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST

    People watch Survivor.

    by Mugato5150

    LOL

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Haha, vin_diggler, you got ACED!

    by ShamelessAceGuy

    http://aceanywhere.com/rj0u9 It's the next big thing. Maybe.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Coach was a freaking Jedi talking to Cochran.

    by Mike-El

    That looked like a Padawan trying to mind-trick a Master. Cochran visibly gulped when Coach called him out.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Love me some Coach.

    by Shermdawg

    That bit where he called John on their plan was great.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST

    love ya, Herc...

    by gotilk

    and genuinely appreciate what you do here. But isn't that like saying *Get ready New Orleans, for one of the best storms ever!!*. Since becoming bored with the only reality TV show I could handle (Amazing Race, which I actually gave a shot based on what you wrote here... and enjoyed), I have gone back to my old stance.... That reality TV, even the most popular shows, is not only bad for TV, but bad for the world. I mean no offense with this opinion. But I was compelled to express it.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Cochrane is such a weasel

    by FrodoFraggins

    He was scared shitless of losing due to the stones. He indeed is a coward. When all is said and done, he will get no respect from any of the players or the fans other than his mom. I was bummed when Boston Rob won and will be equally bummed if coach wins. How many chances can they get? At least Boston Rob was a great challenge competitor and made things interwsting. Coach is just a delusional fruit loop.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Who cares about Revenge? It's clearly made for chicks only

    by FrodoFraggins

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    frodofraggins

    by Thomas

    Probably chicks care, then?

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Shit, Cochran's not a weasel. They deserved it.

    by Shermdawg

    I would've fucked them over too for treating him the way they did, AND I would've kept the idol. Fuck 'em. He probably has no shot of winning now, but I applaud that move. Just wish he had fucked over Ozzy. Can't stand that dude.

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg - agreed 100%

    by VoiceOfSaruman

  • Nov. 2, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Adam Carolla is a weasel

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    and that 'ACE' shit is weak

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I woulda took it to rocks

    by slayme

    you got better than 50/50 odds with those three idols unless i'm misreading the rules. even if so you're still 50/50 - and again have a chance at redemption island if your rock comes up. seems like a bad strategic move cause cock-rain won't last more than 3 more weeks now that he's shown everyone he's a traitor.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Cochran is NOT at fault

    by Red_Right_Return

    Seriously frodofraggins? How stupid are you? What did you expect after they trashed the guy for 21 days and basically insulted, bullied, and patronized him? What choice did Ozzy give him with his ridiculous plan? Cochran was in a NO WIN situation. If he chooses his own tribe, you know, the ones who basically told him he was a gimp for 21 days, he knows they will get rid of him next. At the same time he pisses off the other tribe and loses ANY chance of continuing. If he betrays his own tribe, his team and even the other tribe will know he is not trustworthy. He basically has little to no chance of winning. Why you say? Because Ozzy put him in this situation with his ridiculously bold and stupid move. He has no loyalty to Cochran. Why should the poor geeky guy have loyalty to him? If you ask me, Ozzy was the cause of Keith's removal tonight. They could have voted Cochran out. That would be the smart thing to do, but because he wanted to play the big man and show off, Keith lost his spot and Cochran is going to be enemy #1 for everyone left in the game.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Sherm - I also agree 100%

    by Red_Right_Return

    Ozzy is a tool. Some of the things he said to Cochran over the last few weeks have been insulting and disrespectful. He knows he is an alpha male and Cochran is a drone. He made it pretty clear. I'm with you, I just wish it had been Ozzy who was booted, again. It would make better TV. Instead, we get to see how great Ozzy is at challenges. BLARG. I give him that.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Slayme - true

    by Red_Right_Return

    This is a good point. I think cochran wanted some payback. His chances are slim now, but he has survived long enough by selling ideas that he does have a small chance, even if it is VERY small. The only thing you left out is the fact that if he had chosen the rocks, the other tribe would have STILL thought he was a traitor and he would be gone in the next challenge anyhow. Think about it. He told them far too much and it backfired on him. He should have left it at this was Ozzy's plan and I'm just here to be a mole. I'm not going to be a mole and I'm going to vote the best way for me. They could respect that. The stone would have made sense.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Honestly.. Cochran..

    by tailhook

    should have realized he never had any shot at winning this game. He simply does not have the social skills for it. If he does realize it by now, the move he made was a stroke of genius. In one fell swoop, he automatically became everyone's 2nd or 3rd(except for maybe Coach who was allready set with Brandon and Edna, but Brandon needs to bring more crazy and piss off people with the God Squad stuff or Coach may replace him with Cochran). Thats 90-100K right there not including stipends. Pay off a good chunk of the education he'll get no use out of, because he's wholly unsuited to be a lawyer. What moron would hire him to defend them? But one thing Ozzy has made perfectly clear this year is, he just can't play the game for shit. He's a challenge monkey, sure. But thats all he is. He always views it more from a physical perspective rather than a strategic one. First, he has his idiotic shitfit where he proclaimed he was a 'free agent', now he's going trust COCHRAN of all people to run this elaborate scheme? Lolz. He deserves to lose.

  • You don't know what really happens on the show, or how people actually behaved.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:08 a.m. CST

    This was Cochrane's only move

    by Bodhizefa1313

    He was the sixth man in his own tribe, and it wasn't even close. He would've been the first to go once Savaii whittled it down to their own members, and Cochrane had zero sway with anyone in that group save for maybe Dawn. Ozzy and the Alpha males would've gone on with Whitney at their side for the Final 4, and Cochrane would've never been given a chance to even play the game. He did exactly what he wanted -- he chose the direction of the end game by switching over. I don't think he wanted any of his Savaii tribe mates winning the million dollars without them ever giving him a chance to play the game he respects so much. By turning on them, he went to a group that seemed to actually respect him as a person and not just as a number. The bully mentality in Savaii ran very strong throughout, and they basically forced Cochrane's hand. They never came to him and tried to align him into a final three or four -- they just used him and used him and he finally got fed up with it. I'm impressed by how calm Cochrane has been throughout all the name calling that has been thrown his way by the likes of Keith and Ozzy and, finally, Jim (after the revelation of the flip). Once the former Upolu's toss out all the old Savaii members, and it's Cochrane and the six original Upolu members, Cochrane is in an excellent position to make a Final 4 group with either Coach and his minions (likely Brandon and Edna) or Sophie, Albert, and Rick. I'll be interested to see if he has the social game to pull it off, but he's certainly set himself up to do just that. He's not the most impressive Survivor cast member (no one could ever make that argument), but he's playing the hand that's been dealt to him thus far and running with it. Lastly, the Jedi master speech by Coach was fantastic. He basically wrote the obituary for Upolu in that one conversation, and he did it with panache. It's interesting how cerebral a game he's played this go round, and I think it displays how much of an advantage a combination of intelligence plus Survivor experience can have against a group of newbies. Kudos to him.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    That goes for 100% of shows on TV moore12

    by vin_diggler

    so are you saying we should not discuss anything we see on tv?

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Cochran simply misplayed it

    by FrodoFraggins

    I understand Cochran's decision, I just think he handled it poorly. He probably would have been much better off telling them right before the vote that he was sick of their crap and was siding with the other tribe. The vitriol he will be receiving will certainly be worse now than it could have been. And it will cost him votes if he makes it to the finale. In the end, traitor's don't do to well in this game. He does have the benefit of being seen as a perfect candidate to bring to the finale and as someone who is one of the worst males ever at challenges. Ozzy has to take a fair share of the blame for his horrible acting job. Ozzy basically guaranteed that the other tribe wouldn't fall for their ploy, which meant that Cochrane had zero chance of getting inside info. It was definitely an interesting episode.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Cochran should of kept his mouth shut though

    by vin_diggler

    Turning around and telling his tribe "I will explain later" was pointless. He should of just sat there and grinned when the last vote came up.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Bodhizefa1313

    Agreed. He tried to be the nice guy too quickly, and they (predictably) snapped at him. Although his action did lead to the great moment with Brandon backing him up and scolding the bullies for picking on the little guys.

  • Don't think of Cochran as a complete victim. We don't know how he acted, maybe he is actually annoying as fuck and a dickhead, but they don't show us that footage.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 8:20 a.m. CST

    This all came down to bad acting.

    by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI

    Ozzy ridiculously overacted at redemption, and Cochrane isn't skilled enough to clean it up. Ozzy should've barely mentioned it at redemption. And they probably should've chosen Jim as the double agent. He seems slimy enough to have been able to pull it off.

  • Good riddance asshole. Chalk one up for the skinny Jewish kids like me. Little Woody Allen did the only thing he could do. Hope he wins the whole damn thing.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    All I am saying is we are all at the mercy of the editor

    by vin_diggler

    We can only know what the editor wants us to know. This goes for reality, fiction, documentary etc... There are hours of footage to all of these that end up on the cutting room floor. I am sure there were hundreds of discussions at camp that did not make it into this episode. Since we did not hear them, then all we can go by is what has been layed out before us. Therefore we can only take Cochran at face value when discussing this episode.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I'm no fan of Cochrane

    by Kraven Morehead

    but the guy calling him a coward at the end illustrated exactly why he voted against them in the first place. Maybe flipping that early wasn't the smartest but I suppose he had to make a move. BTW, Coach was laying it down. He seems a lot less crazy this season. I wonder how much that's due to the way they've editted his footage this year or did he get his act together a little bit more. He dropped mad knowledge on Cochran after the merge. Like he was reading minds or something. When he was done he should have said, "now if you''ll excuse me I have to go practice tai chi in the surf as a helicopter films me."

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Cochran went from sympathetic to a weasel

    by gumbyandpokey

    I was actually rooting for Woody Allen but now would like to see someone punch him in the nose. And it was funny to see the country singer get her words blurred out due to her potty mouth.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Keith sealed it with his own words

    by Himbo

    "Fight your own battles!" And then ask for complicity in "Now that I've dogged you, go forth and bring us back information to serve our ends, then we will discard you." Cochrane made the right call. Too bad he didn't think ahead of time about their reaction to craft a decent comeback to some of the obvious venting that would come his way. Cochrane's biggest mistake however, was in not cultivating a friendship with Coach's group. He has the appearance of acting out of spite. That is what will cause his new family to be so wary, and perhaps dump him quickly. I really don't find his play any more repugnant than Sandra (Double winner's) standard play of lay-low, and write "any name but mine." As a student of the game, he should have taken a play from the little guy who won China: make a subtle alliance of a hot chick, and a strong male. Pawn or King. Cochrane chose to move toward Kingship, where he was begging just to stay in the game as a pawn previously.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    "Fight Your Own Battles . . .

    by bookant

    . . . be a man, blah blah blah That's just how I live my life" bullshit pissed me off, too. Really? That's how you live your life, Keith? 'cuz I see your ass sitting in camp next the same campfire Cochran's sitting next to while Ozzy fights your battles, too. Didn't see you step up to take his place. Douchebag. I think Cochran's chances are better than people are giving him credit for at this point. He not only got away from the alliance that was ready to discard him, but with the merge last night we crossed the line where being weak-ass in the challenges now becomes an asset, as everybody will start targeting the biggest physical threats now.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    I love this show!

    by sweeneydave

    himbo and bookant, you guys are right on the money.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    The problem on Survivor is no one knows how to lie.

    by STLost

    And they don't know how to keep secrets. My goodness, everyone is giving up secrets left and right. Brandon can't keep his mouth shut about being a Hantz, or faking the two girls in the beginning about who to vote for, then crying to Jesus about it. Cochran spills his guts after being reamed by Coach. Upolu were totally in on the "scheme" that Savaii proposed. Ozzy before the redemption island task was hamming it up so bad you could see right through him. A good deceit involved LESS talking, not more. Though, props to Cochran for turning on his tribe. They weren't nice to him at all. But what do you expect? You are on Survivor to outlast people and if Cochran can't compete in physical challenges it's time to drop him.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Cochran is the God's Fool archetype.

    by tailhook

    The guy who shouldn't be there, has no game, makes all the wrong moves, yet miraculously keeps moving foreward each week. We should start calling him Forrest Gump. Just don't pretend that simply moving foreward through sheer accident and god's will means he can actually competantly play this game he claims to be a student of. His game is easily one of the worst in Survivor history. He sucks at challenges, he has absolutely no social skills, and I can't think of a single thing he does well. Not one. He can't even ride coattails properly. That he followed up a shivving of his alliance by trying to 'i'll explain this later' was just hilarious to watch. As somone said above... if you're going to throw the shiv, you might as well twist the knife. But he couldn't do that either. At this point, I fully expect him at Final Tribal. I also expect him to get absolutely 0 votes there. None.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Cochran made the right move

    by Redc40

    Where he screwed up was immediately being apologetic toward the Savaii tribemembers who not only disrespected him constantly but actively treated him like shit. And Probst isn't pure on this either. That shithole took every chance offered to throw Cochran under the bus. Granted, the guy makes it easy with his physical appearance and personality. But really, I don't remember Probst drawing a bead and firing on a contestant more than this guy. Not on any of the quitters (Osten, Naonka, et al) or even on Chet, without a doubt the most weak-willed and pathetic contestant this show has ever seen. What Cochran SHOULD have done is smiled, pointed to his package and said "Suck it Savaii." After he jumped like that he's pretty much burned any chance for jury votes from Pothead Jim, Ozzy and Sophie anyway. So make a show of solidarity with the Upolus. Funny how Brandon took up for him and laid down some smack when Cochran himself acted like a whipped dog. I think that Cochran may actually last a long time in this game, though. However, if Upolu "Pagongs" the Savaiis and stacks the jury with a lot of the hardliners (Jim, Ozzy Sophie) he might have a hard time getting jury votes if he makes it that far. If I was Cochran, I'd do everything I could to get the hardliners out of the game before voted out tribemembers go to the jury. Meaning right now.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Dumbass move by Cochrane. Here's why...

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ...not so much because he flipped on his tribe. Deception is expected of any decently skilled player in survivor. It's the timing and the calculation that went into it that either makes it a dumb move or makes it genius. In this case it was poorly timed and for a Harvard student, he apparently can't do math. By flipping on his tribe now, he goes from being what he perceived to be at the bottom of his 6 person tribe at number 6, to now being at the bottom of the other 6 person tribe being number 7 in their ranking. And as a bonus he also becomes ( -in addition to being a reliable vote for the other tribe while still being disposable for them) the number one target for his tribe who will probably target him first if they can get any of the other Upolu members to flip and it looks like they might have a chance next week. So really, Cochran goes from being potentially number 6 in the grand scheme of things to being number 7 in the entire game, at best and more likely being the number one target of both tribes since Upolu retain the numerical advantage even is Cochran gets voted off. And then there's the issue of timing. Flipping now only ensures that even if things work out the way he wants them to and go his way, and his tribe gets voted off, then the jury will primarily be composed of his former tribe-mates whom he stabbed in the back and none of whom will give him a vote if he happens by some miracle to make it into the final 3 (which he actually stands a good chance of doing as he becomes this season's Phillip, whom everyone wants to take to the final) but he also stands little chance of getting any Upolu votes since they probably don't trust him any more than his tribe did since they know he flipped on them. The best time to flip is usually when there's already members of the jury voted out who got there without your doing and so don't hold a grudge against you. Of course, Savaii have their own blame to carry here. They should have voted Cochran out last week - as he was expecting to be voted out himself - and let him play for the opportunity to get back fro redemption Island. Even if he failed, there's no assurance that Christine would have gone back to her old tribe and if anything she probably didn't want anything to do with them and would have joined them instead. Instead they kept Cochran who stabbed them int he back and immediately gave the numerical advantage to Upolu rather than exchanging a useless Cochran for a vengeful Christine who would have been much better at challenges and seeking to vote out her former tribe for sending her to Redemption Island. Dumbasses. The lot of them. Cochran will be gone soon enough, and unfortunately this season is set up to make Coach look like a genius when he isn't. He just stumbled onto a weak player whom he made this year's Tyson by psyching him out. I really hope Savaii pull off the reverse flip next week and flip the Upolu guy and turn the tables on them again to keep this season interesting, otherwise get ready for another Pangonging.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Cocrhan is very self-deprecating.

    by STLost

    Belittling yourself once is humorous. It makes it seem like you aren't taking yourself seriously. Doing it all the time is annoying and pathetic.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    damn I destroyed his name.

    by STLost

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    @kai_mah'gra : Cochran

    by tailhook

    Lol.. the ol.. 7th in some big alliance and what not doesn't apply here... because most everybody now wants him beside them at FTC.. as such, nobody will have the votes needed to get him out at this point, even if they wanted to. At this point its all about solidifying your strength while protecting your weak lackeys, and taking out strong players. Who should be concerned is Brandon, who just went from Coach's solid #2, to possibly becoming expendable. If Coach shows up at FTC with Edna and Cochran in tow, without overtly pissing people off Russell-style, he wins. Period. There is nothing either player could say that would ever win them the million dollars.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST

    PEOPLE STILL WATCH THIS SHIT!?!?!?!?!

    by Bruce Thomas Wayne

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    We are at the mercy of the editors and producers, but...

    by Jaka

    ...they are at the mercy of the cast. From what I understand Survivor is still far closer to "reality" than most of what gets called reality TV. The thing with this show, though, is that most of the cast has seen multiple seasons of the show. People know all the different ways to play the game by now, so all that's left is to hope they cast interesting people who will make interesting moves at an interesting moment in the show. Cochran qualified for two out of three of those last night.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Now, as far as that move goes

    by Jaka

    Why wouldn't Cochran flip now? Shit, I'd vote out my whole old tribe, prove that I was loyal to my new alliance and not have anything to worry about for a week or two (in game time). Take that time to just observe and build friendships so I'd have a chance to go farther when everyone from my old tribe was gone. I don't think Cochran has a chance of winning, but I believe 100% that this was his best chance to go far in the game.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Brenden will take Cochran to the end...

    by diseptikon

    believe it.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST

    The Dragon Slayer

    by don

    Dude went away and came back a friggin' Jedi Master!

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 11:02 p.m. CST

    That Coach speech to Cochran was fucking brilliant

    by BigTuna

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Ozzy's acting was so horrific.

    by BigTuna

    People who lie talk far too much and try to explain everything. That's what Ozzy did. He should have kept it simple and not tried to explain every detail so his terrible acting showed so much. That's really what fucked his plan up so badly.

  • Nov. 3, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    How is Cochran a coward?

    by BigTuna

    What he did took balls.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    The Coward reference...

    by tailhook

    was to the fact that he didn't push the vote to rocks... which would have a chance of him getting sent to Redemption. Rather than take that chance, he flipped. Hence the coward part. But you gotta give him this, he didn't go halfway(at least until he tried to 'explain' himself).. he not only took out one of Savaii's strongest members, but flushed Ozzy's Idol while doing it. That move pretty much crippled them. Ozzy pretty much has to win and keep winning(with one Mulligan with Redemption) to stay in the game. And yes, for all his previous blowhardness and egoness... you really have to give Coach the crown this week and really reevaluate him as a player. He has really stepped up his game this season and has put himself in an extremely good position to go deep.

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Just a fine all around episode

    by ATARI

    And to everyone calling Cochran a coward, I call bullshit.<br> <br> It probably took all the courage that skinny guy had to do that.<br> <br> Good for him I say, his tribe -- especially himbo Keith -- deserved it.<br> <br>

  • Nov. 4, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    The only thing bad.....

    by ihatefanboys

    about Survivor is how the contestants that supposedly religiously watch Survivor still do and respond to things in the game as if theyve NEVER watched at all. We always get people that go in knowing its a game, and still get upset when people "betray" their tribe or insult them or whatever. I agree the only thing Cochrane did wrong was try to apologize. In the merged tribe there shouldnt be ANY tribal loyalty, at that point its clearly made obvious its a singles game, everyone for themselves...sure alliances survive for understandable reasons, but those only benefit the ones running those alliances, anyone in tow usually will be left behind at a whims notice, and usually the one running the alliance will strategically backstab his "friends" and bring the "wierdo" to the FTC.....perfect example is ROB from last season. I think Upolu will embrace Cochrane and protect him a bit...I would love Cochrane to make it to the final FTC and portray the flip as him being proactive in the game and making a game changing decision, his own decision....not just because they treated him like shit.....him winning would be awesome.....but the way its looking, its looking like another returning player will be winning the million and i dont mean OZZY........COACH might be a lock at this point, unless the tribe gets creative and blindsides him........for the life of me ill never understand how former players last to the merge when they should be gone before the 2nd tribal. ...Great episode !!! go Cochrane !!!

  • Never more obvious than all the "fans" on Fans vs Favorites. I don't think there's ever been a more clueless tribe with little to no knowledge of how to play the game than those so called fans. Or maybe the problem with fans, apart from being all star-struck, is they tend to over-think things. But, really, none of that can explain or excuse Erik the Ice cream Scooper giving away his immunity. What a dumbass.