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Our spy Boris gives us the lowdown on ROCKY & BULLWINKLE

Published at:  Feb 07, 2000 2:11:04 AM CST

Father Geek here with a super classified report from that ace cold war spy Boris, he's hot on the heels of ROCKY & BULLWINKLE and he's prepared to spill the beans on their 1st feature length motion picture, and it's live action, but that didn't scare off Boris. He got his report thru to Father Geek and here it is for you all to study...




I've been checking out your site for the past couple of months
and I'm hooked. I never wrote in before because I never had anything to
say. But yesterday I got invited to a screening of Rocky & Bullwinkle (test
screening I think cuz we had to fill out cards). Anyway, I was excited cuz
I
loved all that Jay Ward animated stuff and the movie did not disappoint.
The
screening was today so after I got back I decided to write you about it.
Below is my "review" if you want to post. Keep up the good work but watch
out for that Mountain Dew -- more caffeine than Coke!


Just came from a screening of the movie Rocky & Bullwinkle. It
stars Robert DeNiro as Fearless Leader, Rene Russo as Natasha, Jason
Alexander as Boris (That's me)--and of course, Moose & Squirrel. There are also cameos
by Whoopie Goldberg as a judge, John Goodman plays a cop (who doesn't think
he looks at all like John Goodman) and I think I saw Billy Crystal in a
funny
gag as a mattress salesman on the street.

I guess I should start by saying that I'm a huge Jay Ward fan having grown
up watching episodes of R&B, Dudley Do Right and Sherman & Peabody on
Saturday morning TV over a bowl of Capt Crunch. I'm happy to report that
this film totally lived up. It was the kind of silly but smart fun you
would expect it to be--including the pithy narration. (Not like that AWFUL
Brendan Fraser/Dudley Do Right movie last year). Whoever made this one
finally got it right. It's a great mix of live action and state-of-the-art
animation and has that same sense of humor that I loved in the TV series.
Even DeNiro pokes fun at himself with a line that he has become famous for
("You talking to ME?"). Rocky and Bullwinkle are the same only better --
Bullwinkle's antlers now pick up hip-hop radio signals. They are drawn the
same only more 3-D and have more realistic movement. Their voices are
exactly as I remember them. Could those voice-over people still be alive?
I have to be honest, when I had heard that Rene Russo was playing Natasha I
really didn't get it. But I have to say that she gives you dead-on Natasha
-- sexy, husky Russian voice, deadpan face and that Natasha shuffle. DeNiro
is good too. Jason Alexander is okay too but his talent is wasted in this
movie. The Boris character doesn't get much to do.

The movie starts off with an animated update of what happened to all the
characters after the show got cancelled. The plot is basically this --
Fearless Leader, Boris and Natasha find their way to Hollywood and are
brought out of syndication (and literally out of the TV) by a movie exec
named Mini Mogul (an Austin Powers/Mini Me parody) who signs a deal with
them
to make a Rocky & Bullwinkle movie. Once they are in the real world they
are
quickly up to no good and decide to start a cable company (RBTV- Really Bad
TV) to hypnotize the world with their own subliminal message. Fearless runs
for President and uses the cable station to subliminally convince the
country
to vote for him. Government agent Karen Sympathy goes in search of Rocky &
Bullwinkle who have been away for 35 years. Unless Rocky & Bullwinkle can
stop Boris and Natasha and shut down the cable company, Fearless will take
over.

Yes, the plot is derivative and there are a few holes along the way, but you
don't really care. It's simple and clean enough for kids but peppered with
more sophisticated references for adults and sight gags for everybody. The
film pokes fun at everything - Hollywood, spy movies, government, trash TV,
and yes Harry, even the internet. At one point, Bullwinkle realizes he has
no time to get from The White House to New York City to stop Fearless from
making a speech on TV. He turns to the camera while leaning against a
computer and says something like "Hmm, if only there were a way to transmit
a
high tech computer generated moose across a great distance in the blink of
an
eye."

It's so dumb, it's smart.

Jay Ward would be proud.

Boris



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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:50:30 AM CST

    Alright, I guess I'll see it.

    by cereal killer

    I liked the cartoon but that teaser trailer looks awful and I hope the movie will be better than this trailer suggests. Why parady the 20+ year-old "Superman?" The stuff about "You will believe a moose can fly" just seems dated in this day of CGI effects. And was it just me or did the special effects in the trailer, which claim to be better than "Roger Rabbit," look just lousy? it certainly didn't look superior to "Roger Rabbit." I don't know. I never watched Bullwinkle for the groundbreaking animation. I'm just glad that this reviewer hints that the sophisticated humor is still intact. They should have emphasized that in the trailer.

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  • Better yet, go to Video Wasteland. they have some good videos!

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  • Feb 07, 2000 3:30:23 AM CST

    why they didn't screw this up/guess you're NOT first anymore, sm

    by lazarus long

    Maybe they didn't bother to make Rocky and Bullwinkle a sellout film because it's not popular enough anyway. I don't think it would be a smash hit just from name recognition. The fact that they actually stayed true to the spirit of the original cartoon is what may give it some great word of mouth. Don't expect it to pass "Inspector Gadget" in revenue, though. I hope there's a Mr. Peabody section in the middle. *** Usually I hate when the posts are out of order, but when some jackass posts "I'm first!!!" and then gets booted down a couple notches, it makes them look even more retarded. And I like that.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:27:49 AM CST

    Hip-hop radio signals...?

    by brundledan

    Okay... This sounds... weird. Don't get me wrong - weird can be good, and it definitely sounds like they've captured the flavor of the cartoon - but it still sounds like all the elements are in place for a HIDEOUSLY bad movie. And though I've known about the casting for quite some time, reading this synopsis just made it click for me, just how BIZARRE De Niro and Rene Russo are going to look, waltzing through this. This is either going to be one of the most inspired movies of 2000, or one of the most idiotic. There will be no middle ground.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 10:12:53 AM CST

    Naughty Sauce...the joke went right over your head..

    by inkymae

    Naughty Sauce, the comment about the animation being better than roger rabbit that you saw in the trailer was a joke, you moron.

    In the true style of jay ward and Rocky and Bullwinkle, the trailer is making fun of itself and things around it..ergo, the dated comment "a squirrel can fly" and making a blatant reference to an animated movie from a rival studio. A comment which intentionally points out that great animation is not what the movie is about, but funny gags, satire and and even making fun of theirselves is what the movie is about. Just what the Jay Ward cartoon was about.

    You claim you used to watch the cartoon. Were you really watching it? or were you too busy reading the cereal box on you post toasties??

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  • Feb 07, 2000 10:41:22 AM CST

    Voice Talent

    by kjotvi

    I'm sure that June Forret (Forrey?) is still around. She provided the voices for nearly all of the female characters (Natasha, Nell, etc.) as well as Rocket J. Squirrel. A couple of years ago they had a "Rocky and Bullwinkle" parody within a rugrats episode (I have children, so I catch some of this stuff even if I don't want to), and they hired June for that part. She still sounds the same.

    On the other hand, I still say they missed the greates casting possibility possible for the Pottsylvanian spy duo: Angelica Huston and Danny DeVito. They were born for these parts!

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  • Feb 07, 2000 11:06:31 AM CST

    What the f*ck?!

    by cerebro

    They get pulled out of a TV, to make a movie, Fearless runs for president using a hypnotic TV station. What the fuck is going on here? They placed the Rocky and Bulwinkle movie in the REAL world? I was never a big fan of the old cartoon so maybe I'm just missing something, maybe it will make sense if I see the movie, but from this guy's description it sounds like Duddly Do-right all over again. And anigger, I have two suggestions for you: 1. Change your user ID you racist fuck! 2. Learn to spell and type.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 12:27:02 PM CST

    Y'er Fans?

    by smilin'jackruby

    Hope you were kidding, Darth Psychotic. Maybe it's a little early for me today. This isn't "American Gladiators."

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  • Feb 07, 2000 1:03:06 PM CST

    Curious 'Bout This One

    by mrbeaks

    With the right execution, this could be a great deal of fun. I agree, though, with Lazarus that there should be a Sherman and Peabody short sandwiched in there somewhere, as well as a Fractured Fairy Tale. That Des McAnuff directed bodes well, since his stage work is consistently inventive; although, COUSIN BETTE, his only previous film, was less than inspired. Oh, and I see that the wildly popular Darth Psychotic (he had "fans," don't you know) has left us. Good call, Father Geek.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 1:38:53 PM CST

    you Americans are silly

    by eddie munster

    Come on, please tell me you are joking. Rocky and Bullwinkle? Who could be interested in that, certainly not AICN cause it aint cool!!! I may forgive you guys for ever reporting this but I'm tellling ya, this is the last time. And NO MORE Batman rubbish either. Cheers

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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:19:07 PM CST

    HA!!!!! I knew it!!!!!!

    by user id indeed!

    I knew this movie would rock!You foolish naysayers!Who are you to question the omnipotence of Jay Ward Animation ?????!!?! This will be a hit,and damned funny,too.Thank YOU Boris,for finally getting the record straight(oh,and Moriarity,too).

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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:38:21 PM CST

    The Hoof, The Hoof

    by moviewriter

    Hope DeNiro says "The Hoof, The Hoof" in this one.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:42:03 PM CST

    Hmm..in retrospect,that seemed a little fanboyesque..and look at

    by user id indeed!

    I take back my previous post for this one.1)munster,you're a good guy,but just a smidge short-sighted.This movie isn't just for Bullwinkle fans,it's for anybody looking for a satisfactory way to spend $10 on a summer afternoon.Besides,with all the drugs and violence,what the world needs now is a little Bullwinkle.2)Kjotvi,the voice of Bullwinkle,sadly,is no more.But they found the perfect replacement,judging from the trailer(which was good)3)SSZero,you're a good guy,but I don't think you should be all like"You should be BANNED!"That's not nice4)Naughty Sauce,the tagline was "You will believe a SQUIRREL can fly".That makes sense.A flying moose?That's crazy talk5)Cerebro,they were pulled out to be in a movie because the movie is making fun of itself while continuing with the plot,ala...well,Rocky and Bullwinkle6)morGoth,NO!!!See it at the theater!It's attitiudes like that that made Man on the Moon a bomb!7)Long,how can you say "No name recognition"?Who,man,woman,or child,has never heard of Rocky and Bullwinkle??8)Father Geek,please don't delete this,I spent ten minutes on it,and9)They should make the sequel with Underdog.Ok,this was long,Se la Vie,buhbye.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:59:38 PM CST

    The Chipmunks Were Pure Evil

    by mrbeaks

    They were constantly causing problems for Dave, Alvin in particular. The only message to be extrapolated from a Chipmunk cartoon seems to be "hey, fuck with Dave. It's fun, and he'll holler real loud at you." Not for nothing, but if I were Dave, I'd be at my wits end, too. I mean, you take in these three chipmunks, teach them to play instruments, make them worldwide recording stars, and how do the ungrateful vermin repay him? By making his life a complete and utter hell (just listen to the anguish in Dave's voice during "The Christmas Song" as Alvin makes a mockery of the man's hard work.) No, Mr. Maunz, there should be no Chimpmunks movie. To further reward these little bastards would be akin to the Carolina Panthers signing Rae Carruth to a five-year, $12.5 million contract extension. Let this travesty end now. Oh, and to stay on topic, see R&B if only for the work of Piper Perabo as Karen Sympathy. She's a great young actress who'll knock your socks off. You heard it here first.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 3:08:11 PM CST

    Were you referring to ME,SSZero?

    by user id indeed!

    Cuz I aint attention-starved,I'm just bored.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 3:41:43 PM CST

    BigLarz: Remember "THE CHIPMUNK ADVENTURE"?

    by brundledan

    The Chipmunks already made their big-screen leap, back in 1987. Remember that one, where Alvin, Simon, and Theodore get into this hot-air balloon race with the Chipettes? ARRRRGGGGHHHHH. That movie was so unbelievably awful... I dunno... for me, Alvin and the Chipmunks just has not held up over the years. It used to be a Saturday morning staple for me (along with "Smurfs" - Saturday morning cartoons were never the same after NBC pulled out); as a five year-old kid I loved the little bastards. And while, as an adult, I can still go back to "Transformers", "Thundercats", and the like, I now absolutely cannot stand "Alvin and he Chipmunks". I caughta rerun a while ago during one of my infamous Cartoon Network all-nighters, and the show struck me as so syrupy sweet, so AWFUL, that I just couldn't watch it. What worked for me seventeen years ago sure as hell doesn't work now. Sigh... What was my original point? Oh yeah. A "Chipmunk" flick based on the '80s cartoon wouldn't be worth much, but one based on the 50s cartoon, when Alvin, Simon, and Theodore gave less of a fuck (poor Dave REALLY got the shaft in those), might be. Or maybe not. After all, I also loved "Rocky and Bullwinkle", and the more I think about it the more terrified I am at how the movie based on THEM is gonna turn out.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 3:43:37 PM CST

    What exactly causes someone to get banned?

    by silkenpanty

    This is my first time of ever seeing this site, and i think its great, but i cant help but notice, the talk back posts going on about being banned. Will someone please explain why people get banned?

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:07:42 PM CST

    silkenpanty: why darthpsychotic and others will never be banned

    by darthpsychotic

    i recall the warrior(who said he was banned 4 times) claiming to be banned for a 'smear the queer' reference. someone had the userid with the term 'nigger' in it and postings like that will always be banned. evidently father geek and co. haven't figured out that this same individual always has PERCY in his email address. these boards seem to be divided between the pretty boy supporters and the fanboyz/fangirlz, who are interested in having fun here and learning about starwars, xmen, lord of the rings, dundgeons & dragons, gladiator, etc. father geek and co. may delete some of my posts but i dont hold it against them. you see; harry, fathergeek, and co. are fanboyz too! others, well they get menstral when we get wacky then almost always bitch and moan in almost all of their posts, which in turn, screws up the board, and complain we are screwing up the board. these boards are meant for everone. have a psychotic day.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:13:43 PM CST

    In defense of Dudley Do-Right...

    by actorboy

    It seems that Universal may have learned from its mistake. What mistake? Not leaving Dudley Do-Right alone. The film that was released this past summer was not the film that was originally made. Hugh Wilson's original script was hilarious. It seemed to capture the humor of the original series perfectly. It had enough gags for the kids to get while never ceasing to be witty and topical for the adults. Unfortunately, after one test screening in front of a badly chosen audience, Universal panicked. They wanted the movie to more slapsticky and silly. They took the film from Hugh Wilson and brought in four ghostwriters to dumb down the script (33 pages of new script, in fact). If you look at the film's listing on the Internet Movie database, you'll see how many actors were cut from the film. Whole storylines were cut; critics complained that Sarah Jessica Parker, Robert Prosky and others had hardly anything to do, that's because most of their stuff was cut from the film. The executive at Universal who greenlit the film was fired during filming; the filmed was doomed to fail. It's funny when the film that critics and audiences wanted to see is the movie that was filmed. In my eyes, Universal doesn't deserve a Jay Ward second chance, so I will be passing on Rock&Bull.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:20:56 PM CST

    too late Mrbeaks

    by cerebro

    Too late, Mr. Beaks, they already made a Chipmunk movie. It was called The Chipmunk Adventure and featured The Chipmunks and The Chipettes on a race around the world while unwittingly smuggling diamonds and cash for a couple of fruity millionaire crooks. I enjoyed this movie then and now for one simple fact: the music kicked ass! it rocked, even if it was sung in the most annoying, high pitched voices on earth.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:28:27 PM CST

    Thank you all for replying,darthpsychotic,meanween,andMalchizedi

    by silkenpanty

    By the way, mean ween, i am a female. And as ive looked at a couple of these links, they are cool, but ive not seen too many female names and im curious-if i hold a feminist or slightly feminin viewpoint, will that be reason enough to get me banned? PS. when does harry come back, I take it the cartoon is of him, are there any pictures to be found of him.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 4:59:19 PM CST

    Do I suck because I enjoyed the Chipmunk Adventure?

    by dennis

    Maybe :P. I'm actually beginning to look forward to Rocky & Bullwinkle...it sounds kind of fun.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 5:11:20 PM CST

    Yes. Yes, You Most Assuredly Do.

    by mrbeaks

    By endorsing the damnable actions of these fucking horrid beasts, you contribute to the decline of values in this already crumbling society. Shame on you! Hasn't Dave suffered enough? Shouldn't *we* begin the healing?

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  • Feb 07, 2000 5:45:05 PM CST

    EyesWideShut, and other assholes

    by brundledan

    I swear, people who destroy TalkBack formatting ought to be immediately banned. Looks to me like he did it on purpose, too. There's a special place in hell for people like you, EyesWideShut.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 5:55:30 PM CST

    The devil take you,EyesWideShut!!!

    by user id indeed!

    What a jerk!I can't believe you did that on purpose!Geez Louise!!!Oh well.Thanks for not deleting my weird little post,Father Geek.All you have to do is ban that sonnuvabitch EyesWideShut,and you'll be the next Harry.CriminEE,EyesWideShut!!!!!

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  • Feb 07, 2000 7:40:02 PM CST

    What a day this has been for TALKBACK

    by malchizedik

    First SSZERO "i used to be funny, now Im just dull" pleads for a banning, a plethora of posts are deleted for refering to a slang term in the user id, then darth psychotic is banned for not contributing,among others, then EYESWIDESHUT somehow expands the thread to triple size, then I get banned along with that prick for saying SSZERO isn't funny anymore because he ran out of Hallenback ammo.what more does the day hold in store?? BTW I had the opportunity to watch the hallway scene from the trailer for ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE being filmed and i just gotta say, DeNiro has really done a knock out job in this film, he's trying to expand in the only way he knows best. More power to ya!!

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  • Feb 07, 2000 7:56:06 PM CST

    Musings on Alvin and Moose

    by burninbullwinkle

    As you can tell from my name, I am a big Rocky and Bullwinkle fan, and I pray this movie is as good as it sounds. There's nothing like a good dose of absolute silliness and this movie could become 'The Naked Gun' that you can actually watch with your kids. As for the Chipmunks, the 80's were not kind. If you are going to do a movie, PLEEZE do the original. And Clyde Crashcup better be in it, dammit!

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  • Feb 07, 2000 9:01:26 PM CST

    De Niro is Slummin'

    by swami scott

    What - just because Bobby D. makes a descent comedy in ANALYZE THIS, he's impervious to making shitty comedies? ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE looks painful in a HOWARD THE DUCK kind of way. I don't see De Niro being able to pull this off. He CAN'T CARRY A COMEDY! He needs an ensemble or someone with proven comedic talents to completely fall back on. (see: Charles Grodin/MIDNIGHT RUN, Crystal/ANALYZE THIS, Hoffman/WAG THE DOG). He doesn't have that kind of talent in ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE. He's cast with second-rate ham&eggers (Randy Quaid, Jason Alexander and Renee Russo). I feel bad for DeNiro. This movie reeks of piss. And it won't be his fault. He just didn't have the tools to make it work.

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  • Feb 07, 2000 10:30:42 PM CST

    This movie does not reek of piss!

    by user id indeed!

    Geee-YAWD,people!!!Can we puh-LEASE stop with the Bullwinkle bashing??!If you don't have something nice to say,BUTT OUT!!! Leave this board to the people who recognize a clever comedy when they see one!!CriminEE!!!!!1

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  • Feb 07, 2000 11:02:26 PM CST

    So. . .when do we get to see "RODGER RAMJET: THE MOVIE?"

    by sith lord jesus

    Seriously--that's something I'd pay US$9.00 to see, if it was done right. I used to love that friggin' thing. Hell, I'll even write the script for it if ya wave enough cash in my face. As for R&B, I thought the trailer was funny as hell, and it raised my hopes that the subsequent flick wouldn't be a total streaming pile. This review raises them even more. Rock on! Somthing else to look forward to this summer, along with the Mars flicks and GLADIATOR.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 4:13:38 AM CST

    to everybody who seems to be pleased with this film

    by eddie munster

    IT'S ABOUT A MOOSE FOR CHRISTSAKES!!! Cheers, you'll need it if you're gonna see this film

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  • References to Quentin2 sound awfully dated now, don't they? Anyway, being a talkback dinosaur, I'm fairly sure SSZero has a pretty keen awareness of all the going-ons of this site and the, how shall we say "unique" chemistry of talkback. Lately I've been seeing a lot of new user id's popping up on talkback, some of them even carving their own niches into talkback, such as Todd and Darthpsychotic, but one thing to pay attention to is that you often have to be familiar with a talkbacker before you can tell whether he's joking or not....I wish I could tally up all the times I've been told to jsut "fuck off" AICN. While the thought of copulating with the web server wasn't quite appealing, the message was still made. Darthpsychotic, go pore through the archives of talkback before you start lumping yourself in with the Warrior, how bout?

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  • Honestly, do you only pop up to comment on the inner workings of the talkback scene or to deride other talkbackers? Why are you commenting on talkback when you have zero credibility, which COULD be established if you ever make a good post or two!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 9:49:53 AM CST

    Book by Hallenbeck?

    by jonte

    Does anybody actually know who Joe Hallenbeck was? Did he ever release that book that Harry has mentioned he should write? Eeeek!! Maybe he's here!! At Talk Back!!!!!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 9:50:13 AM CST

    To SilkenPanty (i think i got that name right)

    by mean ween

    a feminine/ist viewpoint won't get your posts deleted. the whole deleting/banning practices here are completely abitrary. if you piss off the man at the button, and if he's already in a bad mood, you'll get zapped. i noticed my previous post is gone. there are other females here (at least there used to be). And now I'll say something on topic. Nothing saddens me more than seeing a great "fill-in-the-blank-here" -- in this case, actor -- just go down in mediocrity. I love Deniro. His performance in Raging Bull is perfect. But I guess that Deniro is gone. I don't care if he plays the greatest Fearless Leader in the history of humanity. I don't care if he did it for fun, charity, whateverthef*&%k. He ain't what he used to be. I hope he proves me wrong some day.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 10:04:49 AM CST

    Jonte

    by mean ween

    I think (and I ain't alone in thinking this) that Hallenback was actually Harry. It was sort of a purging personality for him. Of course, I could be wrong, but when people started voicing their suspicions, Hallenback disappeared. I remember that he said he sold a script for 80,000$ and threw a big party. I think the Phantom Menace review was his last post... and after a day or two, it disappeared. Strange indeed.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 10:40:50 AM CST

    Get off the soapbox, Mean Ween!

    by cady

    De Niro's doing just fine. Why begrudge him the pleasure of lightening up and trying to hone his comic skills? He still gives us terrific performances (HEAT, CASINO, FLAWLESS, ANALYZE THIS, WAG THE DOG). Sure, they're no RAGING BULL or TAXI DRIVER or GOODFELLAS or AWAKENINGS or GODFATHER 2 or ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA or MEAN STREETS or THE DEER HUNTER or MIDNIGHT RUN or THE KING OF COMEDY. But he's not "gone". In fact he's very much around. I'm glad he's doing more films. Great scripts are harder to come by for an actor his age. But there's no sense in him waiting around for the next great script. He should keep busy and make the most of what's offered to him. Coming up: NAVY DIVER with Cuba Gooding Jr., 15 MINUTES with Ed Burns, MEET THE PARENTS with Ben Stiller, and he just signed on to THE SCORE with Ed Norton and possibly Marlon Brando. He will also direct and star in THE GOOD SHEPHERD.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 11:17:43 AM CST

    I'll get off the soapbox and smash it over your head

    by mean ween

    but seriously. i understand that you love deniro and that anything he does is just fine cause this is a free country and we should all just drop our jaws when he lights up the screen and blesses us with his genious. But I still think that, compared with his past performances, the stuff he's a part of these days is, for the most part, fluff. I can't speak for his future projects.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 11:58:05 AM CST

    Robert DeNiro In "Raging Bullwinkle"?

    by eli cross

    I want to like this. I really, really do. But, it's going to stink badly. Oh, how I want to be wrong about this. The CGI Bullwinkle looked like a living version of the Macy's float. And, Kjotvi, you were right about the voice of Rocky and her name's spelled "Foray". She's done voices for about every cartoon you can think of (if you heard a woman's voice in a Looney Tunes or Merrie Melodies, it was probably hers) and she used to be on Stan Freberg's radio show and records. And, Sszero...you needn't suffer with being funny. Your affliction certainly shows no sign of an impending outbreak. (A frightened Talk Back nation rests easily.)

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  • Feb 08, 2000 12:13:34 PM CST

    Niiiice, its great how you support your fellow talkback folk

    by malchizedik

    and as for contributing: its one thing to pound a poster or topic in a flurry of derision, or wax sarcastic or even shed light on a lesser known fact, but the bottom line is that an overriding majority of talk back's these days,(and i have been around sans posting for a long while) are lacking any challenging or insightful substrate. Topics on this site are oftentimes as well, redundant and slippery, not too much day or nite time can be spent roaming the halls of talkback.And although I realize that with all the traffic and studio deals, this is a testing ground for ideas, therefore it is also a crop field ripe for the picking of them. Ill keep mine thank you. As for busting on talk back infrastructure, you do a fair bit of that yourself, although of late i haven't seen you to be as prolific as usual, could there be a girl somewhere in this picture?

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  • Feb 08, 2000 4:10:37 PM CST

    Praise Darth Psychotic, Damn you SSZero

    by darth delicious

    The only one ruining the Talk Back boards is the half-witted SSZero. When was the last time that SSZero ever contributed anything nearly relevant to the subject. Long live criticism and honest appraisal. Damnation to suckupiness.

    I take my name in honor of Darth Psychotic and I hope that my contributions will measure up to your fine standard.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 4:50:22 PM CST

    Look!User ID Indeed has something to say!

    by user id indeed!

    Gather round,children,and you'll hear his profound voice echo throughout the heavens!1)I wish people would stop with the "I'm a TalkBack god"and "I'm a TalkBack dinosaur"!What is that?You think people come here to listen to YOU people praise yourselves?I come here to find out movie stuff,and also to be weird.2)Munster!!!A moose???Oh,NO,my friend.This is not"a moose".This is THE moose.I'm surprised it took THIS long for this movie to be made.3)Everyone is forgetting Underdog! He's the man!and 4)I reeeeally hope they release the full trailer soon.REEEEALLY hope.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 5:38:36 PM CST

    The Chipmunks

    by all thumbs

    There are a few things that have always bothered me about the Chipmunks. First, if they were these big recording stars, why were they still living in the 'burbs and thinking up schemes to make money after spending their 50 cent allowance? And was it they spent it all on royalties they had to pay for those 80's rock songs and old Motown tunes? B) Were they little kids, junior high students or high school age students? One day they were battling a bully on the playground, next day Alvin was making the moves on some blonde 20-something. Number 3: Was it just me or was Brittany a bitch? Is it possible she is now Brittany (however she spells it today) Spears with major plastic surgery?

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  • First of all, I was never part of that whole "I'm a talkback god" debacle of Quentin2's a while back. You're probably the first person to interpret the word "dinosaur" as "heaping prasie on ourselves". I just hate talkbacks like these where the topic shifts to "talkbacks" rather than the actual damned topic...

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  • Feb 08, 2000 6:32:30 PM CST

    I AM USER ID INDEED!!!!!

    by user id indeed!

    Damn you!Why must everyone constantly get my id wrong!??!!I put the "indeed"in there for a reason!You don't even HAVE to put the friggin exclamation point,people!!And yes,calling yourself a dinosaur IS praising yourself!It went with the context of your self-serving message!Did you expect people to interpret it as you humbling yourself by comparing yourself to an extinct lizard with a tiny brain?I don't think so!And where do you get off saying it annoys YOU when people change the subject to the TalkBack!?Get your head out of your ass long enough to realize that ALL of your messages are about how stupid everybody else is!!!How the hell do you think WE feel after two dozen or so of that crap??!Geee-Yawd!!!!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 6:34:22 PM CST

    Dammit!Now the format is all screwed up!

    by user id indeed!

    It was supposed to be right underneath Niiice's lame-brained message!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 6:36:27 PM CST

    Dammit!Now the format is all screwed up!

    by user id indeed!

    It was supposed to be right underneath Niiice's lame-brained message!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 7:09:23 PM CST

    hey you guys!!!

    by eddie munster

    I'm....well...ehr..oh the hell with it. You are all lost and I'm not gonna bother anymore. Cheers, I guess.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 9:16:19 PM CST

    User id you need a lesson on the meaning of context

    by niiiice

    When someone calls someone else a "dinosaur" in reference to a period of time, they mean that that person has been around for too long and that he's old fashioned. In no context is "dinosaur" self-glorifying, unless its something like "I have the strength of a dinosaur!" Sheesh, I can't beleive I have to explain common American idioms to you. And HELLO! I came into this board when it was already 75% over, the particular topic of debate the posters chose was already well established, so don't go blaming this on me.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 10:00:34 PM CST

    Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a prediction outta my ass! (Again?)

    by cinematt

    Prediction: Rocky and Bullwinkle makes 100 million dollars within the first twenty days. The kids are gonna love it, the adults will eat up the nostalgia, and the lucky restaurant chain who bids the highest will make a killing on the merchandising. BE WITH US NEXT TIME FOR: PREACHING TO THE CRYER or STATING THE OBVIOUSLY PAINFUL!

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  • Feb 08, 2000 10:36:23 PM CST

    Umm...Niiiice?

    by user id indeed!

    Didn't YOU call yourself a TalkBack dinosaur earlier,or were you just calling SSZero that?Cuz it could work either way.You should really be more distinct,don't ya know.And calling somebody a "dinosaur"isn't exactly common...or insulting.Which is why I took it you were glorifying yourself.Hmmm...oh,and also,do you have trouble remembering how many i's are in your id?Man,I sure do.Hey,I wonder who would win in a fight between Underdog and Alvin?Nahh,Underdog by a KO.No doubt.

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  • Feb 08, 2000 10:38:37 PM CST

    And for cryin' out loud,Niiiiice,when will you get my id right??

    by user id indeed!

    CriminEE!!!!

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  • Feb 09, 2000 2:40:52 AM CST

    user id.................INDEED

    by niiiice

    The reason I put so many i's was that if I were ever to get banned, I wouldn't have to make up a whole new id, just simply add another "i" in there and no one would notice the difference.....Anyway....Apologies for abbreviating the user id, its just a hell of a pain to type all that out. Yeah, those extra 6 letters are really a stretch...or maybe its fun doing it just to get you riled up...hmmm....

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  • Feb 09, 2000 4:36:42 AM CST

    Thank you sir,may I have another!?

    by harry the hutt

  • Feb 09, 2000 10:49:28 AM CST

    god, shut up!

    by cerebro

    I hartily agree with whoever (i don't have time to go back and read the name) said that the talk backs are turning into discussions about the talk backs. For those of you thinking I am only contributing to this horrid phenomenon, I know that, fuck you. Now, on to the topic. At first I was skeptical about the whole plot of the film, but I caught a re-run of the show the other night on Cartoon Network, and I think the film has merit. I must admit, this isn't the kind of role I pictured Deniro taking, but it could work. In closing...1. Alvin and the boys spent all their recording money on expensive booze and cheap hookers. 2. Brittany was indeed a bitch and is indeed now known as Brittany Spears, after extensive nose jobs, dental work, and yes those are Breast implants! I leave you now, to await the next Star Wars or X-Men post. They seem to have more intelligent conversations in them.

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  • Feb 12, 2000 1:13:47 PM CST

    Lookit lookit,I'm last

    by user id indeed!

    Good for me!Go Bullwinkle!

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  • Feb 13, 2000 8:37:02 AM CST

    Various Tidbits

    by laughingbuddha

    June Forret is still the voice of Rocky. A friend of mine works for the trailer house that made the previews. She came in to do some preview specific V/O, and was charming as all get out. (Apparently she is this tiny little woman who is about 75 years old and weighs less than 100 pounds)

    Secondly, The original cast for this movie had Angelica Houston as Natasha and Nathan Lane as Boris. But he bailed so he could do a play in NYC. Reports have it that he was afraid that it would bomb, and his career cant take another one of those just now.

    Then, according to a reliable source, Angelica bailed because Nathan did. Kind of a shame that those two take themselves so seriously while John Malkovich can mock him self effortlessly in the film that bears his name.

    Also, the big news here really is about Jay Wards widow. She lives in Hollywood and is EXTREMELY protective of his creations. I was in her store, The Dudley Doright Emporium, (On Sunset between The Viper Room and the House of Blues), and spoke to her about the project. First of all, she is getting a piece of the pie, which she should, considering all the effort she puts into protecting Jay's character's and his memory. But also, she had some say in script approval as part of the deal, also, since Deniro is producer AND an artist, she did not have to battle very much because Bobby is a stand up guy. Anyway, next time any of you fellow Geeks get out here to LA, be sure to visit Mrs. Ward at her store. She is there EVERYDAY, and is rather affable and very willing to share stories and anecdotes!!!

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  • Mar 04, 2000 10:52:25 PM CST

    NOW I'm last

    by user id indeed!

    Sigh.Why must people make my life so hard???!!?!?

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  • Jun 26, 2000 2:10:55 PM CDT

    Rocky & Bullwinkle rock

    by taoster

    I'm still not sure whether the movie will suck or not, but I have to stand up for Rocky & Bullwinkle. Yeah, it's about a moose and squirrel outwitting saboteurs, but there's a reason why it's the only cartoon from the '60s that doesn't seem boring and dated these days (i.e. Looney Tunes except for the Roadrunner stuff). If they really tap into the spirit of the show they could have a really good movie on their hands here.

    And why do you people think that Danny DeVito would make a good Boris? Because he's short and has black hair? NEWS FLASH, PEOPLE: The guy couldn't do a worthwhile Boris accent if his life depended on it. Jason Alexander, however, can, and from the screenshots that've been released, he looks an awful lot like Boris to boot.

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