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BionicGirl checks out REINDEER GAMES
BionicGirl sent Father Geek her feelings about REINDEER GAMES today, here's her take...
Mysterio delivered an accurate, detailed description
of REINDEER GAMES. His comments were insightful and
lucid. You see, this is not a legendary film; it
doesn't even aspire to that status. It's not
even....well....good. But what Mysterio failed to
mention was that this movie is fucking entertaining.
The, uh, "twists" are [and perhaps meant to be?]
spotted a mile away. Through much of the movie,
Charlize Theron looks as vapid as Denise Richards on
Mole Day. There's a point at which Gary Sinise--who
is, as some Talk-Backer pointed out, doing his best
Gary Oldman--takes off his jacket revealing a hugely
muscled body and an itty wee head, rendering him
reminiscent of Popeye. And then there's the current
trend in bland, mainstream fare to stick quirks into
your supporting characters to liven up the
joint....REINDEER GAMES offers us a Business Week
reading thug who's been a pain in the ass to Sinise
ever since he "started going to night school."
All of these are reasons why I should have hated this
movie. For my sins, against my better judgment, to my
detriment, shock horror, blah: this movie was funny as
hell. One-liners....ridiculous violence....Ben
Affleck's attempts to be Roger Moore's eyebrows....the
premise itself, man....somehow it came together. The
expression "so crap, it's ace" is a terrific way to
sum up REINDEER GAMES. Don't get me wrong, if you
live in New York, this movie isn't worth your $9.50.
But for those of you who still get movies for under
$5, it's a fun, kitsch alternative to SCREAM 3, EYE OF
THE BEHOLDER, etc.
Oh, and uh, one last thing. For those of you who're
interested in this cos Ms. Theron pops her top, it's
so not worth it.
BionicGirl
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to all the player haterz: if you can't get with this, you are eating, as they say in mexico, "poppycock." look out for old skratch, take the cumbersome road and all that, babbahouse'n yeah!
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Feb 07, 2000 1:26:12 AM CST
sszero thinks darthpsychotic is informative and witty even thoug
by darthpsychotic
i almost feel sorry for ben affleck for this obviously film, almost. it is february though and this is the month when studios dump their bombs. look for warren beattys next film soon. got to go now martha stewart' on the telly.
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... which is, admittedly, sort of uneven -- Frankenheimer basically admits these days that he checked out for a decade or two in a boozy haze, only to claw his way back into Hollywood
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Hey Ed, thank you for noticing one of the most solid directors of our time. I think that if people knew John Frankenheimer's past, then they should realize that he's not just another amateur director. He's been in the biz for a long time. Whether Reindeer Games rules or sucks, it's good to know that the name Frankenheimer shows at least one speck of interest in seeing the film.
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Bionicgirl said it's not worth it. Is that cause Charlize doesn't show anything or because Bionicgirl doesn't think Charlize's boobies are worth looking at? This movie seems like good old fashioned mindless entertainment and it could probably use a good dose of Charlize's jumblies. I know her nubbins ain't real big but they sure are nice and I look forward to seeing them again. Ever since I first spotted Charlize in "2 Days in the Valley" I've been in love. She is damn sexy and I like that she didn't get all attitudinal about nudity once she got famous. She flashes the flesh so often I feel like I know her hot body better than I know my own. I'll be there opening day for "Reindeer Games."
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Feb 07, 2000 3:55:50 AM CST
Am I the only man alive who does NOT get the hot onions over Pam
by cereal killer
A poster above me commented on Charlize Theron's sexiness by saying that she's no Pam Anderson. I'll agree. Pam Anderson couldn't hold Charlize Theron's panties. Pam's plastic body/face don't stir anything in me except contempt. I'd rather see Charlize Theron naked over Pam Anderson any day. Hell, I'd rather see the cast of "Golden Girls" naked. Okay, that's an exxageration.
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The ONLY reason affleck/Damon won that oscar was because their story of writing their own screenplay because they couldn't get good parts was such a cute american story. GWH offered us nothing new, i've seen the story many times before. It was vastly overrated. Oh and Frankenheimer is so underrated its ridiculous. name another director that has made the amount of incredible films over 5 decades like he has? Manchurian Candidate is indeed a masterpiece as is Seconds and how about the brilliant camera work in "Grand Prix"?
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I was wondering.... Does anyone else out there have a little trouble telling Charlize from Ashley Judd? I get those two mixed up all the time....
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They are very similar, in a Renee Zellweger/ Joey Lauren Adams / Jewel kind of way....there are little differences....#1 being that Ashley Judd's name on a movie is like a big neon Sign, screaming "this movies sucks a big, festering ass pimple!!!" and Theron dosent nearly inspire that kind of distain in my mind...maybe its that south african thing she has going on....
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did anybody read that article he wrote? What a pretentious, egotistical piece of shit that was. it's like "Hey, here's a bunch of big words I know and proof that I'm not just a the hot new thing but also somebody whose really in tune with the film industry." I liked Affleck in dazed and confused and Good Will hunting (which i agree was overrated), but this guy needs to take his big head off. He hasn't done anything, unlike his buddy Damon, to show he has any range (Shakespeare in Love? Give me a break). I totally don't see him playing a tough ex-con, but i'll watch reindeer because of Frankenheimer, whose other action movies (Train, Black Sunday, FC II, Ronin) are technically exciting if not always great movies. Here's hoping he hooks up with some real actors and makes another masterpiece like Seconds. Here's hoping someone like Harrison Ford or Cruise can hook up with him and do some real acting with a real director.
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I don't know about "well-deserved." I've heard too many rumors suggesting that they were responsible for little more than the original story, which itself was altered drastically (the story originally had Will being pursued by gov't agents, or something like that.) There's no shame in getting rewritten, but there is something very dubious in receiving an Oscar for it. As for Frankenheimer..... I'm happy to see an old pro still swinging the bat with such vigor.
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Well? cheers
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Feb 07, 2000 4:22:55 PM CST
no one at westerburg is gonna let you play their reindeer games.
by tommy five-tone
here's five-tone's take on the whole affleck/theron/frankenheimer hoo-hah: AFFLECK - underrated actor (great in good will hunting, a very pleasant surprise in shakespeare in love, did that animal crackers thing in armageddon...shit, two outta three is OK), fine writer (that piece in premiere is frickin' cool), seems like a with-it kinda guy. THERON - five-tone agrees: so much sexier than pamela anderson it's not even a fucking issue. (if you're looking at pam with her inflatable tits and other adventures in plastic surgery - not to mention her ability to take a hit from tommy lee and bounce back for more - and think that shit's sexy, get yourself to a shrink. you spent too long on momma's tit as a youngster.) theron's beautiful and talented, but she doesn't give that "and i'm worth it" vibe that makes julia roberts's (and ashley judd's as of late) work so annoying. FRANKENHEIMER - the manchurian candidate and seconds are two of the best movies to come out of the '60s, and watching the island of dr moreau after smoking a big fatty is one of the best experiences you can have in this life.
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Feb 07, 2000 4:55:44 PM CST
miss theron and the reconstruction of the western civilisation..
by woodynz
Apart from being possibly the most gorgeous woman in the world (only Sophie Marceau, Penelope Cruz or Nicole Kidman can rival her), Charlize Theron has consistantly displayed a formidable acting talent, that, while not quite in the same league as Joan Allen (who IS the best actress in the world) or Gong Li, wipes the floor with other pretty young imposters like -ugh!-Denise Richards and Milla Jovovich. The Devil's Advocate is a nice example, and , hell, even Trial and Error she puts in the effort. What I would like to see is a movie where Theron, Judd and Angelina Jolie play sisters or something. Oh, and Julia Roberts is the most annoying actress ever. Just my take.
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Geez,
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RONIN was one long car chase. The whole damn cast was completely wasted. And Frankenheimer had SO MUCH to work with. It was supposed to be a tentpole for MGM, but instead it went tits up. REINDEER GAMES has similiar problems. PROBLEM ONE: Gary Sinise looks TOO DAMN MUCH like his "Lt. Dan" character from FORREST GUMP. The beard, the shaggy hair. It's as if Frankenheimer told the makeup/hair stylist to bring back Lt. Dan. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS BAD GUY SERIOUSLY? PROBLEM TWO: Ben Affleck. Do I really have to see his head everywhere I go? And why doesn't anyone talk about how BIG this guy's head is? No, I'm not talking about his SWELLED, INFLATED EGO, I'm talking about his GIGANTIC, BIGGER-THAN-ROSIE-O'DONNELL MELLONHEAD! He's got this IMAX-sized forehead and chin bigger than Leno's. PROBLEM THREE: Charlize Theron. She looks trashy in this movie. I saw the trailer. She isn't the Charlize we know from that shitty TWO DAYS IN THE VALLEY. She's like a cross between Catherine Keener and Cameron Diaz from BEING JOHN MALKOVICH. Strictly C+ stuff. She needs a career kickstart. I hope she nails PEARL HARBOR.
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per your Charlize question, it's not so brief, but it is basically disappointing. I saw this movie in a packed house and no guys were really cheering. in fact, there were some boos.
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full disclosure: i saw this film with bionicgirl and she may have an influence on my frail little mind.
no, this movie is not worth seeing for charlize theron's tits. not for $9.50, not $5.00, not even for $1.50 three months from now. but it is worth seeing because it's a hilarious non-self-conscious spoof of a generic action movie whose one liners are actually _funny_. i haven't heard this much laughing in a theater crowd (which i admit was full) in a long time, even for something billed as a comedy.
the only real problem is the slow first 15 minutes or so where we're supposed to take ben affleck seriously as a hardened criminal, tattoos and all. and then it seems we're supposed to take the whole romance between him and theron seriously, but that soon goes awry, thankfully. quite quickly we're thrust into a dark comedy that takes very little seriously and has plenty of fun explosions.
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Thank you for your review, wholok! Finally, someone has the sense to tell me if a movie has what I am looking for: 1.) Explosions and things blowing up; 2.) Funny dialogue. Of course, some tasteful nudity does't hurt either. So I will look forward to watching Reindeer Games. (Having the great director of Island of Dr. Moreau, a very underrated good bad movie, helps!)
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Thank you for your review, wholok! Finally, someone has the sense to tell me if a movie has what I am looking for: 1.) Explosions and things blowing up; 2.) Funny dialogue. Of course, some tasteful nudity does't hurt either. So I will look forward to watching Reindeer Games. (Having the great director of Island of Dr. Moreau, a very underrated good bad movie, helps!)
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You're right there, as someone said Sinise looks as if he's playing Lt. Dan's evil twin. By the way, never mind Charlize Theron constantly taking off her top, all the films I've seen Gary Sinise in have him in at least one scene where he gets to go shirtless. David Duchovny seems to have the same preoccupation - and he has even less excuse...
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...And that's the bottom line! Nuff said...
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