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Capone says PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 3 scared him so much, he wanted to punch somebody!!!

Published at: Oct. 21, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST by Capone

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

To varying degrees, I still very much dig the PARANORMAL ACTIVITY films, but I think the franchise runners have taken this storyline to its logical conclusion, and anything beyond this will seem superfluous and a like a sad cash-grab. By finally giving us the backstory on sisters Katie and Kristi Rey (troubles that were referencing in the first film pretty explicitly), we don't really need to see the girls as tweens or PARNORMAL ACTIVITY: THE COLLEGE YEARS. With Part 3, we get that these girls' lives were pretty much fucked from day one and that what happened to them as adults was fated.

PA3 opens closer to the present day, in the days right after Katie (Katie Featherston, from the first film) has moved into her place. She comes with boxes of video tapes, asking to store them in Kristi's (Sprague Grayden) basement. But as they examine the tapes, they notice that many are labeled "September 1988." It's a simple, clean starting point, and what comes next is watching the girls (played by Chloe Csengery and Jessica Tyler Brown), their mother Julie (Lauren Bittner), and stepfather/mom's boyfriend (I might have missed the relationship) Dennis (Christopher Nicholas Smith), who just happens to run a wedding video business and has easy access to multiple video cameras, surveillance equipment, an endless supply of tapes, and an editing bay. Lucky us.

PA3 has a bit more of a slow-burn lead time than the first two films, but that didn't bother me much. I actually liked getting to know these characters. And while the girls are young, they have distinct enough personalities that it feels like this film has four fully formed characters to get to know, not to mention a babysitter (featured in one of the movie's scariest sequences involving someone playing ghost with a sheet over their head), Julie's nosy mother, and Dennis' friend Randy (Dustin Ingram), who helps examine hours of footage taken from cameras in two bedrooms and the kitchen/dining room area. Dennis decides such surveillance is necessary when small, strange things start happening and weird little noises sound during the night.

Naturally, one of the daughters has an imaginary friend, who, it turns out, might not be so imaginary, and by the end of the film, we have a very clear understanding of what has been going on in this movie and the two that came before it, which is both interesting and not necessarily a good thing. I tend to reject any attempt at explaining where scary things come from. The very fact that they seem so random makes them all the more terrifying. I liked the general idea that these girls are cursed; knowing where that curse originated doesn't add anything to my appreciation of the original ideas.

That being said, PA3 scared the bejesus out of me several times, and it features its unseen evil force as a much more aggressive, attack-mode being than in the other two films. As with PA2, this latest installment has trouble sticking the landing, and it features what might be the most ludicrous and unnecessary ending I could imagine involving the family moving in with grandma. But I tend not to bury a film just because I hated the ending.

What I truly liked about PA3 are the authenticity of the child actors playing the sisters. There is nothing fake or stagey about them, and all I could think about was how directors Henry Joost and Ariel Schulman (CATFISH) extracted these great performances from these girls. The "Bloody Mary" sequence (which is not the same scene we see in one of the early trailers) is so convincing, I started to get mad at the filmmakers for putting these kids in danger.

Yes, of course, some of the camera angles and "captured" footage seems a little too convenient, not to mention that these events take place in a home filled with camera equipment. But when the screen fades to black and fades back in on the words "Night 1," my hands went immediately just above my eyes, getting ready to brace myself for the evening's first of many jolts. Joost and Schulman do a admirable job setting up a few false scares, but when the time comes for the real ones, they prove themselves experts as timing, pacing, and makes us jump at the slightest sound or movement. There's one scene in particular, set in the kitchen, that made me freak out so severely, I almost punched the guy next to me in a "Did you see that?" attack.

I get it, some of you are big boys and girls who don't get scared or don't like the modest pace of the PARANOMAL ACTIVITY movies. You need music to tell you to be scared, cats or birds popping out of doors and windows to get your blood racing, loads of gore to let you know that something horrible is happening. And I love those things too; I'm not knocking them. But sometimes I love to be reminded that it's so much easier to scare me in the real world than in the movies, and PA3 continues the tradition of doing just that.

These movies freak me out because they don't have music, noticeable effects, or creatures running around. It's about the darkness, the creeping chill, the waiting. If you've been loving the ride so far, you'll have not problem slipping right back into that comfort zone. If you've never liked or seen these films before, I still think PA3 has enough going for it to entertain all comers. What else are you going to see this weekend, THE THREE MUSKETEERS? Don't make me laugh.

-- Capone
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  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by JethroBodine

    *POW!*

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Nice review Capoone

    by masteryoda007

    The voice of sanity prevails....

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    *Capone D'oh!

    by masteryoda007

    Capoone is quite a good name, I like it.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Effective movies all around.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Anybody who doesn't find them genuinely scary should stick to garbage like Final Destination and Saw.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Plot for part 4...

    by CREG

    New owners of either sister's house is haunted and call in "Ghost Hunters" and all hell breaks loose on the hunting crew in their through-the-night investigation. Let me know when you're ready to send the check. Thanks. Nice review BTW.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    These movies are good. They scare CTML.

    by dr sauch

    That's why he is so mad.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    PROMETHEUS TRAILER????

    by marineboy

    I've heard it's meant to be shacked up with the PA3 release - probably in the UK first? Any truth in the rumour? :)

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Well if there's anything good or intriguing . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    They're saving it for the film. And did anyone ever actually play Gyromite a SECOND time?

  • I can't think of a single movie to come out in years to create so much tension and suspense. Haters gonna hate, as they say.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Nice review.... And I as well cant wait to have the shit scared outta me!

    by Tank Williams

    And good call on the three musketeers... Lol

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Well HELL, this isn't the talkback for 'The Hunt.'

    by Nice Marmot

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    @creepythinmanlives

    by Tank Williams

    You good sir.... are a turd

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    By horror, do you mean suspense?

    by dr sauch

    Also, come on, Jersey Shore is great TV and you know it.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    So many people I know don't appreciate it, for Capones reasons! Their loss

    by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    These Movies Are STUPID!!!

    by kedst1

    Sometimes stupid movies are good! Some of my favorites are stupid movies, but these are formulaic, predictable and ultimately boring. Again, in an uninteresting way. I sat through the first movie and the scariest moments were those my friends and created amongst ourselves. Maybe I'm getting too old, but you have to do a wipe of your memory every ten minutes and a suspension of disbelief to get through these flicks. Making money off of folks get easier and easier.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Excellent- Plan on seeing the flick next week...

    by Judge Briggs

    I enjoyed the first one ... the second installment was much scarier ... the third, I hope will be a fun ride too. Capone is right when he says that it's dread and eeriness that drives these movies ... not some cheesy CGI monster or torture porn. I wonder if the creaters will wrap up the franchise with a fourth film? By the way- when we gettting our found footage of Area 51 movie?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Most haters of the PA franchise are like that...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Because they are too scared to watch the movies or got so scared watching them, that their inner child woke up and the auto-defense is to say "Those movies suck" when in reality they pissed their fucking pants.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Yourweekend box office cham

    by Gabe Arellano

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Watching the first one made my wife cry for like 10 minutes.

    by sweeneydave

    And then we had to pray. I don't show these to her anymore.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to this...

    by Daremo

    I need to make sure I get the the theatre to see this one, SOON.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST

    sweeneydave

    by JethroBodine

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    What else are you going to see this weekend?

    by Logan_1973

    TAKE SHELTER, anyone?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    AICN is beginning to bore me. I can't explain why.

    by D.Vader

    I just don't feel compelled to come here that much anymore. The stories aren't that interesting. The talkbacks aren't that interesting. Its weird. But SweeneyDave, your last comment just saved me.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    creepythinmanlives only likes horror movies

    by sweeneydave

    THAT TALK IN ALL CAPS!!!! FACT!!!!

  • I can't click anywhere because the damn thing has to load a FULLSCREEN advertisement. Annoying as hell.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    PA1 was light years beyond PA2 (at least for me) in terms of the scares.

    by Cletus Van Damme

    I hope PA3 returns to greatness. Great review, Capone...you've got me hopeful.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Interesting.

    by vanchimera

    If I told someone that I didn't find Paranormal Activity and the like to be "scary," and they tell me that I should stick to Final Destination and Saw, I would likely punch them in the throat. These movies AREN'T scary to me, and yet I still have a manner of taste. How crazy.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Ghosts and spirits in the real world

    by Jake Pantlin

    When I was 15, I lived in a haunted farm house in Walkerton, Ontario. Both me and my brother were attacked one night in our sleep at the same time by... something, and again about 30 minutes later when we turned off the TV and got back in our beds. The house was right across from the town graveyard, and there was two tombstones in the backyard from the 1880s (like I said, it was a farm house). We stayed there for almost 2 years, and I don't know how my Mother ever let us stay there that long. Stuff like this scares the shit out of me because of those experiences. I want to see these films, but the inner child in me who was attacked by something in the 90s is saying no.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    First one was god awful

    by ThaWhiteShadow

    Seriously, one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Not scary in the least, and I am the first to admit when a movie creeps me out. Didn't bother with the second, won't bother with this one.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    .....You people are fucking PUSSIES!

    by Jaster Mareel

    Scared during Paranormal Activity? HA HA HA HA HA!Oh look a fucking DOOR OPENED A LITTLE! AAAAARGH! *pisses pants* YOU HAVE A FUCKING VAGINA! And the only reason us enlightened folk don't like it is because it doesn't have CGI creatures and tons of gore? Yeah, go cry into the pillow you fucking child. It seems many of you have been so saturated with stupid movies like this that you don't even remember what scary movies ARE! Um, hello? JAWS? Not very gory (rated PG), no CGI, and it's one of the scariest films of all time. Next I'd put up the original Halloween and Alien. Again, no real gore, no CGI. And the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Contrary to popular belief, barely any gore, no CGI. But you go ahead and shit yourself over t-rex trax in fucking baby powder you sissy-assed little girls!

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Watched the first one, got bored

    by sunwukong86

    Im not a "hater" I just didnt care enough about the movie to get scared. The characters are one-dimensional and there's no real plot till half way through the movie. I can appreciate what they tried to do, it just didnt work for me because i didnt believe any of it.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    These movies are a bit creepy, but NOT scary.

    by chains

    Look... I didn't even hate the first two movies. But neither one had me up worried at night, or checking the closet before I went to bed. They're interesting and creepy, but not scary at all. The Shining is a scary movie. The Exorcist is scary. Psycho. Hell, the first Scream provided more scares... simply because the killers were real people... because it could happen. Honestly, I brought girlfriends with me to see those movies, and neither of them was shocked by what they saw.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    geez Atheron

    by sweeneydave

    What do you mean by "attacked"?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    tits

    by fred

    does the mom have big tits like the daughter?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...Paranormal Activity was a pretty good low budget horror movie that got overhyped. Sort of like House of the Devil (but not the delightful Trick or Treat). The overhype led to this backlash among some hardcore horror fans, who are reacting to what the movie came to be sold as rather than what it was. Done this dance so many times I guess everyone here knows the steps by heart.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    In the first film she's about 30

    by Bobo_Vision

    So if they had cameras in their bedrooms as kids it'd have to be the early 90's.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Re: "slow burn" and "cash grab"

    by Titus05

    the first 2 movies were the same way...the second movie felt like a cash grab as it would have been better if they followed a completely different family versus continuing the story from the first movie...felt too forced and somewhat corny...luckily I watched both movies on Epix HD and didn't waste my $$ to go see it in the theater

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see Saw 8

    by Titus05

    Saw got really stupid and the traps got really lame as well...biggest mistake they made was killing off Jigsaw way too soon (Saw 3?)...but I'd still rather see another Saw vs another Paranormal Activity

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    See Saw 8 what?

    by Red Ned Lynch

    And were Swing and Slide there too?

  • He said it was great. When it was pointed out these movies are FUCKING GARBAGE made for brainless idiots who don't know their assholes from holes in the ground, he said ''that's your fault for falling for the hype'' -- hype, as in vacuous bullshit created by a marketing department to milk every possible cent from a terrible abortion of a movie. And that is not a sentence that should ever come from the mouth of a film critic (to use the term very loosely, since this is Crapone we are talking about) who knows the meaning of the words 'spine' and 'integrity.' I'm willing to believe he did actually like it and he's not just a blatant shill, but that just cements his utter lack of credibility . . . . There is not a single moment in Paranormal Activity that is scary in any way. There is no good writing or plot/character development. There are no special effects worth speaking of. There is nothing there. It is a true POS low budget movie for people who found OPEN WATER just a little too 'cerebral' (LOL).

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Progression would be nice

    by torontoxic

    Hanging onto the device employed in the first will always make these simple retreads where you suffer through 85% boring, 10% nervous, and 5% scared (if you can call it scared). I liked how Blair Witch 2 approached it though the execution could have been better. Still that's how you expand a movie. You move away from the simplicity forced by limited budget and make a real movie.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    The first one creeped me out.....

    by drewlicious

    The setup with the girlfriend standing over her boyfriend while he was sleeping was beyond freaky. I have to give the filmmakers credit for doing something so simple. I haven't bothered with the second one and probably won't with the third one. I figured it was a storytelling gimmick that was only going to work once.

  • There is no hope for anyone who enjoyed PA1. It was worse than SUCKER PUNCH. It had all the drama and charisma BLACK SWAN would have possessed had it starred Jonah Hill and Ben Stiller.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Last three paragraphs are the height of shameless bullshit.

    by golden tribw

    'You need music to tell you to be scared'??? What a goddamn idiot.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I liked the first two

    by Mattman

    The second one was much better than I expected it to be. The third is getting good reviews but I'm skeptical that they can keep this up without going over the top. Guess I'll find out tonight.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    PA movies get the job done

    by coosawatchie

    Good, solid cheap scares. I see no reason to trash these movies nor do I have an urge to nominate one for an Academy award. I can't wait to see PA3 in the theater this week

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    These are the only "scary"movies left

    by lprothro

    ...that are actually scary. Atmosphere trumps gore every time. Film-makers seem to have forgotten this sometime after the early-eighties. Glad these guys still remember. The "found footage" motif is getting old though, and threatens to cannibalize this series. I hope they drop this for more conventional cinematic story-telling in the next one--- while retaining the subtle creepiness.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Now I kinda wanna watch Black Swan with Ben Stiller and Jonah Hill.

    by sweeneydave

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    coosawatchie, agreed

    by Mattman

    Everything is so black and white on AICN... nice to see some perspective.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Hey sweeneydave

    by Jake Pantlin

    Hey, I woke up in the middle of the night in a panic, with my body completely paralyzed. It felt like some sort of force pushing down on every part of my body. I could move my eyes, but nothing else. It lasted for about 30 seconds or so. Suddenly, whatever it what lifted off me, and the dark room became lighter. I reached over and turned on my black and white TV, and being full of anger over whatever just happened, I started swearing. My brother, who was sleeping across from me in the room, asked what was going on and I said "there's a fucking ghost in the room. For about 15 or 20 minutes we watched every corner of the room in the light of the TV, biut nothing happened. Thinking I migt have dreamed it by that point, I crawled back into bed. I reached over and turned off the TV, and just as I rested my arm on my side, the force that I had felt on me was on top of me again. It was fast and sudden, and lasted for about 10 seconds. When it got off of me, my brother jumped out of bed and said "oh my god, did you feel that". We turned on the TV again, and I started swearing my head off, to see what it was that attacked me. We never saw anything, per say, but we did see a brownish shadow moving up the corner of the wall, that disappeared into the closet. I had a Styrofoam head that I had painted to look like the Joker (this was 1990), and I tore the face off of it and said "do you see this! this is you!!) We kept the TV on for about an hour, and then crawled back into bed, keeping the TV on. We kept in on every night for 6 months. Whatever it was never bothered us again. Now, I have heard of "old hag syndrome", and have considered that a possibility. However, it happened to both me and Steve the second time, and I never told Steve that the ghost (or whatever it was) attacked me. Because it happened to us both at the same time, I'm convinced it was something real that we don't understand. When we had moved into the house, we heard stories at school about a girl who lived there that use to get thrown out of her bed at night. We just chalked it up to silly ghost stories, as it was a 140 year old Victorian house. but the longer we lived there, the more strange it got. We found out that one of the men who had lived there in the 1960s was a drunk, and froze to death when he passed out outside in the winter, and I believe that he may have thought I was a stranger in his bed or something. Another person who lived their before us, told me that he saw an old woman in a rocking chair one night when he went to use the washroom. So I think there were a few ghosts in the house.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    bobo_vision

    by Musicman247

    Yeah, the filmmakers seem to take liberties with the timelines. Just watched PA2 a couple nights ago, and in the first 10 minutes the husband makes a reference to the 2010 movie Clash of the Titans. His wife is in the bathtub saying that she wants him to join her and he says something like, "Yeah, I think I can release the Kraken" even though the movie is supposed to be set in 2006. Just sloppy film-making/script writing. I'm sure they weren't thinking about making a second and third film while writing the first. But I will say that these movies do more to get the heart beating faster with still shots and silence than any other movie I have seen.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Who ya gonna call?

    by James St.Range

    Do the ghostbusters show up at the end?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST

    I'm sure a million people will beat me to it..

    by lprothro

    but that "Kraken" line was first uttered by Sir Laurence Olivier in 1981, dude.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Hey, Goldetribe,

    by Red Ned Lynch

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Love these movies

    by Therawbeats

    BUT I think it's absurd to say people who hate them only do so because they were scared. I can absolutely see why people don't like these movies, but for me, they are certainly the scariest horror films I've seen in...shit, in terms of making me feel uneasy after getting back to a dark apartment after the movie, maybe ever. I went on a double date to the first one, and the theater was so crowded that my girl and I had to sit apart from the other couple. My girlfriend and I both really liked the movie, but when we met up with the other couple they both said it absolutely sucked, wasn't scary, etc. I've found that's how it is with everyone who sees it, it's either love it or hate it.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    lprothro

    by Musicman247

    While that is true, it did not come into popular use again until the 2010 remake...dude.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Hey Goldentribe...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...have you ever seen The Haunting? The 1963 moviem, with Julie Harris, Claire Bloom and Richard Johnson? If you did what do you think about it?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Wrong again--dude

    by lprothro

    I'm old and remember people saying that in grade school.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    musicman247...

    by Mattman

    You fail.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    @atheron That was just your creepy uncle who attacked you.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    But yeah, I sometimes feel creeped out living alone. You hear wierd shit and sometimes I'll feel like I'm awoken out of my sleep. One time it felt like a cat pounced on me. Only creepy because i don't own a cat. Seen the first Paranormal when it first came out and I did feel that it was overhyped. I agree with red ned lynch. It was decent for a low budget film, but not the scariest movie of the last 10 years. Maybe top 10 of the last 10 years. Having said all that I had passes to see part 3 early. Having never seen part 2 (not wanting to contribute to the hype) I decided to Netflix it but refused to watch it alone in my house at night. I got up early in the morning to screen it and have to say I enjoyed it. After reading this review I'm so looking forward to part 3.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Kraken line

    by Titus05

    yes it was used in the earlier movie but does anyone really believe that the reference in PA2 was from the 1981 movie?...hell no...it was a screw up on the writers part

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    PA films are for people with an actual brain FACT

    by tom

    These movies are are slow burn which makes them awesome. They force us to use patience to enjoy them, which iswhat I love. The whole "Saw" frachise (beyond the first one) was rediculous and an insult to our intelligence. We don't need gore and excessive torture porn. You also don't need to see the killer,ghost, or whatever in order to enjoy. In fact, it's much scarier NOT seeing. The PA movies know that and John Carpenter knew that when he made Halloween. That is why he made Mike Myers face a white, blank, emotionless face for the audience to project it's own fears upon. FACT

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Original Haunting. Door Pounding. Still really scary

    by Knobules

    What a classic. No gore, boobs, swearing, Eli Roth BS etc. (not that those are bad things) Watch the pounding door scene alone in the dark. Its perfect And the moaning wall, creepy!

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    have they made a porno version yet?

    by fred

    paranormal anal-tivity?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST

    The original "CLash"

    by lprothro

    Was quite popular for its time (enough to warrant a "double-release") and if I recall, the guy who says it is middle-aged or older and a bit geeky. Not much of a stretch of the imagination that he would quote that line.However had it been a 15-year old that said it, I would tend to agree. Too silly to argue,though really.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Why do we need this in the UK? We have Ghostwatch

    by david starling

    Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPTDHEeLI0A I haven't watched any of the Paranormal Activity Series, and don't intend to!!

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Wrap it up with a Part 4

    by lovek

    The police hunt for Katie and the baby: dash cams, security cams, and finally cameras inside the station after her capture when shit starts to go wrong.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    titus05

    by Musicman247

    Thank you! My point exactly.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    "Haters Gonna Hate" The ABSOLUTE worst internet meme

    by Lucky13

    People get pissed at the Brian Cox jokes... but this fucking "Haters gonna hate" bullshit is ridiculous. Brian Cox would rape that meme's mouth with a rolled up magazine... just like he did to Sigourney Weaver in Alien.

  • Watch The Thing, then Carpenter's effort, then tell me which is best, and which is cgi-shit targeted at adolescents who like Dead Space.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Hey, at least it ain't Saw...boy, did that series take a nosedive

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    after the first two. Let's hope the producers stop PA at three. The "mythology" of this series could end now, and I'd be happy.

  • ... the simple stupidity of these films, is only exceeded by my shock that people genuinely enjoy them. On the other hand, the sheer genius behind their invention... they cost almost nothing to produce, and even if they don't perform well on theatrical release, people buy the SHIT out of them when they go to DVD. It's like a god-damn license to print money. Does it bother me that society's standards continue to devolve and collapse as days pass? Not really, seeing as how there has ALWAYS been 'lowest common denominator' target base films (Porkies, Hollywood Knights, American Pie). I would rather see dozens of sequels to this nonsense, then the pointless support for absolute shit like "Human Centipede" and the like

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    largojr

    by Musicman247

    I think people have been "'sploded-to-death". Movies get bigger and bigger, and more and more ADHD. Bringing movies back to a simpler frame and plot gives people a reprieve from the Hollywood Blockbuster (which seems to be almost every movie).

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Knobules...Velvet Sloane...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Knobules,m thank you sir for your extraordinary taste in this regard. It's not that CG and buckets of blood can't be scary. It's that you don't need them to be scary. Velvet Sloane...amen on Ghost Watch. It's the class champion of this particular sub-genre and is a Halloween perennial at my house. Scares the heck out of the kids.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    "Do the Ghostbusters show up at the end?".. *slow clap*

    by TiPPiDa

    Well since its set in late '88... perhaps they had thier hands a little full with the Lawsuits stemming from thier debacle that left 1 Manhattan building destroyed and all the citizens in a 4 block radius type 2 diabetics from melted Marshmallow.... either that or they were shooting scenes with Viggo the Carpathian at the time. :) either way, they's busy homes. Haters are hilarious... but what is with haters these days, they're so cookie cutter, insert swears, use 5 words when one will do, use words to try and sound clever, throw in words like abortion and rape to add "impact", appeal to the readers fear of not being liked by comparing the thing they're hating on to societies 'safe hates' like Beiber, and if that doesn't work, make sure you drive that nail home by inferring inferiority should you like it "If you like these movies then you're a/an <insert word they heard someone else call them earlier in life here>".. and post 2 or 3 times saying the same thing different ways just to make sure everyone heard them... dude we get it.. you don't like it.. then generally, haters have the audacity to nit pick originality FIRST... But then there's the other side of the coin, if they DO like something just throw in a penis erection line or the words Jizz and Pants.. and we'll get the idea...... . its just too funny to read

  • Especially when the characters act like they don't fucking have any.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    PA3 lying in their ads?

    by Musicman247

    So, on CHUD.com they have a PA3 background ad that sports this quote: "The last 15 minutes will mess you up for life." -Aint It Cool News And I'm trying to find where someone on this site actually says that. As far as I can tell there are only two articles on this movie, this one, and the AICN Horror article, and neither one of them say that quote in them.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    EYE-ROLL

    by JudasPriestly

    Seriously :\

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    D.Vader --- Ad Block Plus for Firefox will cure what ails ya

    by Lucky13

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Aaron Morgan

    by Musicman247

    In the full-screen video ad "@Aaron...Morgan" is credited with the quote. Anybody know who that is and where his review is?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks Lucky13

    by D.Vader

    I work on a Mac now and not on a PC. Never did load Firefox onto this thing. I oughta do it sometime.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Goldentribe

    by KDog629

    I know I shouldn't be surprised, seeing as AICN is pretty much the Mos Eisley Cantina of the internet, but I can't figure out what about these movies makes Goldentribe so very angry. Are you actually offended when something that's hyped and turns out to be popular isn't completely in line with your tastes?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Totally worth it, D.Vader

    by Lucky13

    I installed it not too long ago, after seeing similar suggestions in TB's here. I never see those ads anymore... the few times I did see an ad of some sort, a little pop up window would sprout when I put the cursor over it and give me the option to 'block' it from then on. Only had to do that like two or three times... thing works and you don't even realize its running. And pages load so much faster because of it. I even used it to to stop annoying non-ad videos from automatically loading (like on espn.com) *Cue late-night fat-burner pills voice-over voice* It's like I took 5 years off my computer!

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Kdog

    by Lucky13

    I couldn't find Goldentribe's post that you were just referring to... so in a very basic defense, based on what you said... I kinda agree with that logic, and here's why. I hate this PA/found footage garbage. I hate Human Centipede.... and wish I could leave this planet when I hear anyone speak fondly of it. Let me break it down in bullet points, cause I'm much too lazy to make a coherent post of this. * PA/Found Footage: Feels like cash-grab, lack of talent, lack of effort filmmaking to me. Why bother with a good story, good actors, skilled Cinematographers, etc? Just grab a DV cam and shot some weird garbage. * Human Centipede: Very similar to above. Lack of talent, skill, professionalism. No effort to make the film look or sound like a professional made them. Story is stupid, and only aims to gross us out. Might as well have been made by an 8th grade A/V class student. Now... compare that to say, JAWS... something I think most of us can agree as a great achievement in filmmaking. You can tell that everyone involved bled, sweat, and teared over making that fucking movie. Spielberg probably aged himself 10 years making that movie. But take even a PoS film like Transformers --- Michael Bay may suck as a 'story' teller... but that motherfucker busts his balls to put something EXCITING on screen. His crew of filmmakers are talented as all hell. Then... take a low budget horror movie like Re-Animator... those people, again, worked their asses off to make the movie legit. Sure, they grossed us out, but they told a story and busted ass to make it on a technically proficient level. How about a newer low-budget indie horror... like House of the Devil. I didn't even like it. Actually, I was with it until the climax/ending... felt let down by that. So a movie I have no real affinity for... I could tell that a filmmaker busted his ass to make this piece of entertainment. He tried, he cared, and he put real work into it. Whether or not I enjoyed it is of little consequence in this debate... I felt like the filmmakers respected me as a paying customer and gave it their all (and had some level of skill to back it up). These bullshit PA/HC type movies just feel like they have so little effort put into them... like they throw shit against a wall and see if I'll buy it. I feel insulted by them. It's like they take everything I love about film, shit on those ideals and then dump them in a homeless shelter. There's no story, there's no real acting talent on display, the director doesn't even need to be on set for these things. Story aside, they don't even LOOK like there was any effort put into them. Why should I waste my time watching? So yeah... It does get aggravating when I see good things written about them.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    atheron:

    by Kremzeek

    I won't get into details here, but sufficeth to say, this stuff is real. I know from experience(s) as well. And anyone who doesn't think so has either 1) never had anything happen to them personally so they refuse to believe, or 2) they're in denial. I am not insane. I know what I've seen, felt, and heard when it comes to the paranormal. I'm a skeptic at heart, but there comes a point where you have to realize you're kidding yourself - and though you may not have all the facts or details, *something* exists and can interact with us. But, anyway... the first movie was great. I liked the 2nd one too, but I admit I don't remember much of it as I only saw it 1 time. I think you should watch the first one. Yes, it WILL scare you to death if you've had similar experiences in your real life, but I think you should face your fear. That's exactly what filmmaker Oren Peli did. He was scared shitless of ghosts and the beyond, so that's exactly why he may the first PA.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Dunno, the first one bored me enough that I couldn't finish watching it...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...I found myself fast forwarding through the movie to the 'footage' parts. Stopped watching right before they busted out the ouija board. Maybe I'll give it another go, since so many of you guys liked it. I'm kinda done with the whole 'found footage' thing. Someone said in another talkback that the conceit of the cameraman takes you out of movie, or some such thing, and I kind of agree with that. I mean if some 100 foot tall monster was busting up the place I live in, I'd fucking run the other way, not move to get a better shot with my iPhone. But like I said, perhaps I'll give PA(1) another shot.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    joaquin:

    by Kremzeek

    Watch it alone at night with all the lights out, and in full surround sound. Much more fun. I found that the freakiest parts were toward the end (though I didn't really care for the ending itself). I'm not saying it's the best movie ever made (far from it), but it's also not "shit" like TBers on here would have you believe (also far from it). I liked it better the 2nd time around, actually. So, maybe you will too. Definitely worth a go, I'd say. But, since I can't really remember much of the 2nd one, I guess that doesn't say much for bothering with the sequels, though.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST

    wrath of fett

    by corplhicks

    yeah really ! Someone needs to put their tampons back into their pocketbooks !! IT's lights off, screams, lights on, sudden doors moving, etc.. It's mostly that. Try The Shining, OK? and what? 2 people died in it. Or the last 3 seconds o Blair Witch, which personally I thought was horrific at that moment of realization of what was going on, and about to happen, in that basement. What they should do, is visualize the demon somehow, maybe a little, have it pick up someone but he thread and rip their clothing and slash them then drop them.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    What you're talking about is s slasher flick

    by Kremzeek

    This is not supposed to be that. PA is supposed to be a slow building tension-fest. It's not about seeing parts of the creature or ripping people into shreds on camera. There are plenty of films in that genre. Why does this one have to wedge itself into something it's not? It's like getting angry that a comedy doesnt' have enough tits in it. Not *all* comedies are supposed to be Porkies. There are varying degrees within each genre. I dunno... I just think you were expecting something that wasn't ever going to be that, so you were let down. Why do more people have to die to make it good? Again, it's not that kind of movie. /shrug

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Wow, what a patronizing review!

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    I need music to tell me to be scared?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Ok, ok...

    by Kremzeek

    I take back my comedy/tits analogy. One can never have enough boobies, no matter the topic. =)

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    but this seems to present a continuity issue...

    by TheSeeker7

    Mind you, I write this without having seen PA3 yet, just going on the trailers. It looks like shit most definitely gets REAL in #3 here, they've thrown subtlety straight out the window. But now, from what I recall of PA1, well if this is the shit that happened to the girls in their childhood, when we meet Katie in #1, she seems a little too surprised at the events considering what we now realize what she experienced as a little girl.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Fucking. Quotation. Marks.

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    Fuck whoever coded this site. Twice. With a sharp stick. Just as well my post was truncated - I wasn't kind.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Let me guess

    by phantomcreeps

    People bitching about these, also don't like to sit around a campfire and talk about spooky stories either. That's what these movies are plain and simple. Mood. You don't like that, well don't go to the theater, rent it and turn the lights off, or go camping. Better yet, just don't use your imagination, which is what your doing.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Ghost Watch Ghost Watch Ghost Watch Ghost Watch

    by Dolmes

    Ghost Watch Ghost Watch Ghost Watch Ghost Watch Ghost Watch etc.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPTDHEeLI0A

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    These films are the real deal..

    by Carl's hat

    Watching these in a cinema with a crowd of people ready for a good fright is brilliant. Seriously, these are the kinda movies that make me love horror. People in the audience gasping, laughing in relief, whispering to each other, grabbing onto each other...top stuff. Keep 'em coming I say.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    You pussy Capone

    by Osiris3657

    Watching the film with your hands just under your eyes? What are you, a teenage girl?

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    So did they film two movies?

    by alaska1125

    A ton of stuff from the trailers and ads weren't even in it. Like almost the entire first trailer. I assume there is an alternate version? I'd like to see that one because the version I just watched wasn't very good.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Both sides of this argument need to get off their high horse

    by Therawbeats

    To those who say only smart people like the PA movies, and then to all those that call them "lazy cash grabs" etc, both of you shut the fuck up. These movies are smart and incredibly tense, but I understand those who don't care for it. Doesn't mean anyone's opinions are wrong here. Look, if you can't suspend your disbelief with the found footage style, than it's over already. You're not going to like this. I happen to love found footage style when it's done right...but I've only ever seen it done right in Blair Witch, and the PA movies. So there you go. I love the fact that the scares in this movie come from what you don't see or what's only implied. My favorite part in the first one is when the psychic comes to the house and immediately is like "I can't be here." I like that shit. It's creepy and scary IMO. Just the idea that a person can be haunted by a demon (rather than a house) is a sweet concept.

  • Good for them.

  • THIS MEME WILL NEVER DIE

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Three-toed demon monkeys, Dude.

    by Anti-fanboy

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST

    PA & PA2 are on instant right now...

    by bruce

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Capone, you wouldn't punch the guy next to you...

    by 2sdaychicken

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 8:25 p.m. CST

    ...because you didn't sit next to anybody!

    by 2sdaychicken

    Good movie though.

  • These movies are still freaky to me though, they remind me of when they first started on me, whispering voices, banging on walls, apparitions appearing in the mirror.. (this stuff still happens, but I've adjusted to it). I've learned these demons are actually really dumb creatures and in another world they would be pitied or laughed at, but here they're still scary.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Griefo- what do they look like?

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    I'm serious.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    atheron

    by rand514

    I grew up in a haunted house too and saw some stuff that made me freak out. I think its that experience that makes these movies work for me. They take me back to a time when I was scared of things that went bump in the night. I'm not saying they are the best movies ever made or anything, but they are entertaining.

  • Oct. 21, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Damn!

    by Therawbeats

    Just got back from the theater, thought the movie was awesome. Last 10-15 minutes were tense as hell! Good lord.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Just saw the first 2 installments on Netflix...

    by ObiBen

    It's basically Poltergeist meets Amytiville Horror on shoestring plot and budget. More effective than Blair Witch Project, but barely more entertaining than the plethora of "reality" shows à la Ghost Hunter. Made me pass a boring friday evening, but glad I didn't shell 12$ a pop to watch them. Oh, and atheron, if you read this, you most probably had an episode of sleep paralysis (or "old hag" syndrome). I used to frequently get these. Each time you think your heart's gonna burst from fear, but apparently it's not dangerous. This physiological phenomenon is the exact opposite of sleepwalking:You're awake, but part of the brain thinks you're still asleep (that's why you can't move). The most freaky part is the hallucinations that sometimes accompany the episodes (I've experienced 5 kinds so far). Not being able to move for several seconds is scary enough, I find no need for the dark shadow silouette parked at the end of the bed while it lasts...

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Loved the first 2, I'll definitely see this..

    by ganymede3010

    When it comes to Redbox:)

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Why cant we be friends?

    by alpha

    C'mon people a few quick verses of Hey Jude or the like. I dont mind these films although I find them a little too static to sustain my interest for their full running time. They have a formula and some people enjoy that foirmula ... those people are not idiots for liking what they like ... they are just different to the people who hate the films. I get tired reading some of the over the top bile and rhetoric that gets spewed in AICN talkbacks ... nothing raped anybodies childhood , these films will nmot f you up for life and Brian Cox does not need to be refrenced in every single talkback Some people give well thought out opinions for either side of an argument and those people deserve praise, people who descend into petty namecalling and abuse just deserve pity.

  • I have at least 10 of them that are constantly going at me. There's a lot more to it, but that is a basic description.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:38 a.m. CST

    griefo.

    by Optimus Prime

    I have that exact same problem, only I just have one demon. His name is Michael Bay.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Someone should make a found footage 9/11 movie

    by Bobo_Vision

    There are two ways to go with this. One would be to follow the terrorists as they prepare for the attack. The final scene can be a meeting with Bin Laden before they execute the plan...and the shocking horrific part is that George W. Bush comes into the room with members of the CIA, speaks to the men, shakes all their hands, then leaves. <p> The other way to go would be to follow people in the towers as it's happening...but I think the first one would be more interesting and easier to make.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:53 a.m. CST

    bobo that would be silly

    by Walterego

    Nobody from the CIA has ever met with anyone on Al Qaeda, ever. Even back in the 80s if a arab jihadi of the type that later became AQ had ever encountered an American CIA agent he would have killed him on the spot.And the CIA always made sure they only train afghans because no support could ever go to an arab group that might later attack Israel. You may as well have Hitler's brain in a jar brought into the room and gives his approval.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST

    An entire generation of idiots...

    by WarrenSmooth

    who thinks "horror" has to be one superfluous bucket of gore after another. These kids have NO idea what true horror is.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    I'll DVR it off EPIX

    by jarjarmessiah

    It's about all their worth.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    scary music cue same as loud thump

    by Titus05

    the Paranormal Activity movies may not use music to scare people but they do something similar...in a completely silent scene they introduce this really loud noise to scare people...the 2nd movie had a woman in the kitchen when all of a sudden the cabinets and drawers flung open with this loud crashing noise...was effective but unoriginal silence broken by loud noise= same as music telling you when to be scared according to Capone

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Remember Folks; Capone Once Praised MacGRUBER!

    by Graphix67

    Capone will NEVER recover as a legit reviewer in my eyes after that one.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Macruber is awesome

    by Bobo_Vision

    One of the most underrated comedies of all time.

  • Capone, what are you talking about? This film took less time getting to the crazy. Remember how in the first film the big event in the first few nights was a door that moved?

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    musicman247...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA

    by Billy_D_Williams

    You do realize Clash of the Titans was released in the early 80s and the guy was referencing THAT film, not the cash grab remake made for idiots like yourself with zero knowledge of film, right? The line "release the Kraken" was a fairly popular line after the film was released... unbelievable

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    titus05

    by Billy_D_Williams

    "release the Kraken" was a pretty popular line in the 80s and 90s...it was the probably THE most remembered dialogue from that film...I used to say it all the time as did my friends and others I've seen on TV and such. It's not a screw up on the writer's part...it's a screwup on your part for being so fucking behind the curve. Idiot.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Totally agree with your last two paragraphs Capone.

    by themastadon

    A film like this will scare me a hundred times more than any other kind of horror film. The original version of The Haunting is still one of the scariest films I've ever seen because of it's atmosphere. I'm really looking forward to checking out PA3!

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    PA3

    by Frank

    Long time reader, first time poster. Loved the first 2 but PA3 sucked a$$. I loudly said MEH! that sucked in the theater as the credits appeared and was rewarded with the same grumblings from several movie-goers. Nothing new here, more of the same. It's like they forgot the mythos they created in 1 and 2 and just decided to just make a money grab. IMO this is how it should have ended: ***SOME SPOILERS*** Crazy shit continues after the kitchen furniture falls for a couple more nights - ramping up the crazy. Toby or crazy kid/mom should then have set the house on fire (ties in that their house burned down mentioned in PA1 and 2- ie the burnt picture). Mom and Fiance/husband die in the fire and the girls are sent to live with grandma. At the police station (or hospital) or wherever the girls end up after the fire, video cameras show grandma and the kids, we see the weird triangle symbol on her necklace and an evil smirk then some shadowy form standing next to the kids. Roll credits.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Being the best American horror film of the past ten years...

    by SmokingRobot

    Is like being the best hockey team in Peru.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by Titus05

    you just blew up your whole argument...you said that 'release the Kraken' was popular in the 80's and 90's...it's 2011 now...you're the idiot...of course the reference was from the remake...who was using that 'Kraken' line in 2011 before the remake came out? somebody gimme a high five!

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    titus05

    by Billy_D_Williams

    sigh...i'm going to just ignore how ridiculous your argument is and try not to make fun of you. so because the line was popular in the 80s and 90s, a man in his 30s is NOT EVER GOING TO SAY THE LINE TODAY???? THAT IS WHO WAS SAYING THE LINE IN THE 80s AND 90s! just like people today who still say "bitches leave", and who were saying it ALOT after Robocop was released. Just because it was a popular line in the 80s and 90s doesn't mean no one says it today! Just because you and tour tween friends never heard of the original Clash Of The Titans doesn't mean the line didn't exist and wasn't being said and is not being said today. the writers of PA were alive when the Kraken line was popular (and so what the character who said it), it's not a huge stretch to believe they were referencing the original film and not the remake...it doesn't even matter what they intended, the kraken line EXISTED before the remake, so it's not a plot hole. Jesus christ on a stick...i remember debating some moron on the imdb boards who had the same "plot hole" argument...it was like 50 people versus one guy who would not let go of his argument. it was ludicrous (and funny).

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Just saw it

    by elsachmo

    Highly disappointing IMO. I really liked the first two films, but this one seemed like it never really kicked into gear, and then just when it seemed like it was about to, it was over. Not too sure about the origin story of the demon either. Have to wait for the next film to see if that pays off. Good tension as usual, and a few good jump scares, but don't expect too much.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    its funny...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    the Kraken line argument by titus and musicman is exactly whats wrong with cinema today they think just because someone says the Kraken line in a 2006 story and the same line appears in a 2010 film, that its a plot hole...completely ignoring the popularity of the orginal film from which the 2010 film was made! as in, how disposable and ignorant our culture is now...anything before their time is irrelevant and practically doesn't exist..."it had to be the remake he's referencing but it came out years after he said it so its a plot hole!" so ludicrous its laughable and just showing their ignorance/age. i bet they think Steve Jobs invented the computer.

  • ... at least.. that's what I heard!

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    atheron, I, too, have had a similar experience; but...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...like obiben, believe it was an Old Hag experience caused by sleep paralysis. That said, while yours is mostly a textbook case, your brother sharing it is unusual and interesting. I don't believe I've seen that detail in such an account before, though you did say you told him there was a ghost in the room before his experience. Still, if you remember correctly and didn't tell him it attacked you, and he said, "Did you feel that?"...that's intriguing. You might want to write it up and send it to the Fortean Times or something. Two-witness cases are always better than those with just one. I hope I don't seem hostile or condescending here, because I don't mean to be. As I've said, I had one such experience and it was the most terrifying thing I've ever been through (and I've been hit by a car). It is hard to convey to someone who hasn't been through it just how bad it is. You (and your brother) have my deepest sympathy. We just have different interpretations of the event, that's all. I wasn't there, and may well be wrong. But for you and your brother's sake, and obiben's and mine, I rather hope I'm right. (Should anyone be curious and want to learn more about this phenomenon, the standard reference is "The Terror That Comes In The Night" by Canadian folklorist David Hufford, the first to recognize it. In general, for those who want a judicious investigation of the paranormal, I recommend Borderlands, by Mike Dash, as the best I've ever read. Dash, a Fortean and Oxford-trained historian, approaches matters with a rare balance between open-mindedness and skepticism, and always goes back to original sources. It's also remarkably comprehensive, covering just about everything you could ask for except for the Devil's Footprints in Devonshire (and as it turns out, he has a PDF on his website covering it in massive detail; ditto for Spring-Heeled Jack, too). There is no better guide; there's not much left standing after he's done, but what is has to be taken seriously.)

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    RE: zombieswedishchef

    by Therawbeats

    Couldn't disagree more. While I think this movie as a whole is just behind the first one, it definitely had the most solid fifteen minute stretch when.... *****SPOILERS: When they leave the house and goto Grandma's place is the best part in any of the 3 films in my opinion. And you want to take that part out????? It was fucking amazing. As soon as the wife went to investigate, my heart was just pounding for the next ten minutes. When the dude opens the door, turns on the light and there's just that group of witches standing RIGHT THERE. Holy shit man. *Ok, so continuity errors occur, but blanks can be reasonably filled in. The girl "married" Toby and they both had their memories erased, the witches burned their old house down and they grow up with Grandma or one of the other coven members.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Knobules & themastadon, I wanted to second...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...your love for the first Haunting, the one by Robert Wise with Julie Harris. Almost certainly the finest haunted house movie ever made. Beautifully shot in glorious black-and-white, great performances all around, and the refusal to ever show what may be doing the haunting will not spare your nerves at all; rather the reverse. And, hey, Stephen King has it it in his Top Twenty in Danse Macabre, with good reason; and the book it's based on, Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House, is approached (but not bested) by only Matheson's Hell House and King's The Shining. However, the remake of The Haunting by Jan de Bont should be avoided at all costs. I'd also like to mention, as long as we're talking black-and-white horror films, the immensely creepy Carnival of Souls. Though cheaply made by Herk Harvey, an industrial filmmaker in Kansas in 1962, starring no one you've ever heard of, it's an incredibly atmospheric, disturbingly eerie film that you should know as little as possible about before seeing. A cult movie that really deserves its cult.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Never seen Ghostwatch, heard it's good but know next to nothing about it...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...could someone tell me more without spoilers? (Not much of a gorehound, so I'd like a little info on that score, too.) Thanks in advance to whomever.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    alpha, I really appreciate the "Why can't we be friends? comment...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...especially since I've often tried to be The Voice of Reason here myself; but it's an uphill battle. Good to see someone fighting it, though. We're all going to disagree occasionally, but can't we do so thoughtfully, taking into account the inevitable differences in taste, without assuming the moral depravity of those who don't share our opinion? I guess not. But we'd all be better off if we did. In any event, props to you, alpha. You justify your name.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST

    More of a slow burn huh?

    by ChimeraUK

    The first 2 were yawnfests that only really took off in the last 5 minutes and only had a couple of strategically placed "scares" which attempted to keep us interested but which quite frankly were pulled out someones arse because they new the audience would no doubt be bored. If this one is even slower to take off I think I'll pass. They could probably kill a lot of the filler in all 3 movies and condense what's left into a better single movie....

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Ghostwatch

    by ChimeraUK

    KissKissBangBang, Ghostwatch was a BBC drama from about 20 odd years ago that was billed as being real. It was a studio show where investigators were out investigating a supposed haunted house while Michael Parkinson hosted it in front of a studio audience, with phone in's from viewers etc. The reason it caused a stir was because a lot of people thought it was real. It only really becomes obvious that it isn't toward the end and in hindsight it isn't that scary today but at the time watching it thinking this was all real was pretty pant filling......

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by Titus05

    knock it off...your argument holds no water...we're not talking about a line from a movie from 2006 that gets re-used again in 2010...were talking about a movie from 1981 to 2011...huge difference the original Clash of the Titans was no Casablanca as far as lines that will live in infamy...and no way did the writers of PA2 reference a movie from 30 years ago when they are trying to market the movie to a new generation of young people...stop it, you're making yourself sound stupid...just admit you were wrong and move on

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Toby the demon

    by Bunger!

    scary

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Logical conclusion?

    by severianx1

    How can a prequel be any kind of conclusion to anything?

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    chimerauk, thanks...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...so it's like the infamous War of the Worlds radio broadcast, or Special Bulletin back in the Eighties ("live" broadcast of terrorists-with-nuclear-weapons crisis), hmm? But I saw the latter knowing it wasn't real (it was in TV Guide, for crying out loud) and it was still pretty effective. I don't doubt Ghostwatch was pants-filling not knowing the first time; but red ned lynch says it's a Halloween perennial at his house, which implies it's still pretty good even after the reveal. Think I might try it. Further comments, anybody?

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Well, severianx1, The Urth of the New Sun manages to be both...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...as I'd think you of all people would know.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST

    how do you get more aggressive than part 1?

    by foreignerbelt

    I mean..what is more aggressive that that?

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Wrong, kisskissbangbang

    by severianx1

    The Urth of the New Sun is a sequel to The Book of the New Sun, not a prequel.

  • ,,,that we see Severian travel back to both Typhon's time and to the Stone City in a time prior to that near the end, where he becomes Apu-Punchau, both of which episodes happen in the overall history (though not Severian's personal history) before Book of the New Sun and are referred to in it; so that, while UotNS is a sequel, it is also in some parts, due to time travel, a prequel in that we see something of previous eras which set up what we see in BotNS. I mean, we can argue terminology, but you do get my drift, don't you? Ah, time travel is confusing...

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Rifftrax

    by ThatEndDown

    That was the only way I was able to make it through the first movie. Otherwise, I would fall asleep and dream about beating "Mee-kuh" severely.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT. Anybody else want to hear more about Griefo and his demons?!?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Wow. What's the deal there, man?!

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    ...birds popping out of doors and windows...

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    WTF? What are you talking about? Paranormal Activity has a whole bunch of those cheap-type scares! In fact that's one of my complaints about it. Too much false alarm crap popping in from off screen.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST

    I hated the 2nd film sooo fuuucking muuuch

    by Kammich

    It almost completely soured me on any future installments of this franchise. But I'll be honest... the marketing for the new film has me intrigued. It looks like they're aiming to deliver some more flat-out "creepy" scares rather than some bland-ass shit you'd see on any one of the 6,000 syfy channel paranormal hunter shows. "Paranormal Activity 2" was 25 minutes of dead air and then, OH MY GOD, a frying pan would fly off the kitchen counter!! NO! DEAR GOD NO! My heart can't take the shock of falling kitchenware. contrarily, the "Bloody Mary" bit in PA3's advertising got a resounding thumbs up from me. thats the type of shit I want to see in a film like this.

  • Oct. 22, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Paranormal Activity: First Class

    by ReportAbuse

  • There is a god. You know you are an annoying waste of space when you get banned on this board. Takes a special kind of stupid. These movies suck, but are effective in the theater. Sit in the back row and watch the audience. Good for a laugh. Worth 10 bucks. Can't imagine watching one at home.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I saw a demon once. i swear, no joke

    by liljuniorbrown

    I don't believe in ghosts and at the time i didn't think anything like that was real until i saw it and my buddy saw it too. Helping my friend move out of his old place he was telling us his roomate was insane, and he had to get out asap. He said the guy just sat around listening to satanic death metal and driking all day and night. The guy walked around in his sleep growling and shit acting stupid. We just figured he was a drunk who craved attention. Anyways while movie my buddy out of the old place i felt something watching me, i turned to ask my buddy what his deal was and i saw IT. It was an all black shape,kind of looked like Venom with that crazy blank eye holes thing going on and the fucker grinned at me. I just broke and ran towards the door and to my car. My buddy came out a few seconds later and he had the same look i did. He looks at me and says "you saw it too? just get the fuck out lets go". We made a pact not to tell everybody cause i didn't want to get by balls busted every other day but i swear on everything i know this happened! Since then it happened again...........

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 1:45 a.m. CST

    I still don't believe in ghosts

    by liljuniorbrown

    In my heart i know what the fuck i saw and i never ever want to see anything ele like it or feel like that again. Saw this flick the other night and it scared me big time. Not as bad as the real deal but again, i never wanted that shit to happen. And qick update,the weird roomate......he died at the ripe old age of 36.He suffered a horrible,painful death at the hands of what the doctors called " the most aggresive,down right viscious form of cancer i've ever seen in 20 years of Oncology". He went in for a check up and came out without a jaw or means to talk,or eat ever again. He died within weeks. Tell me that shit ain't real.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST

    found footage

    by hulkiest

    I liked the scares in PA 1 just fine. Except all the haters are right. The found footage angle is a little stupid. Because if you have footage of a Ouji board burning up, or your girlfriend getting dragged out of your bed, you don't just hang around and go back to sleep, even if you do laboriously set up the conceit that the demons will follow wherever you go. I think a smart fellow would still rush to the Police or some ghost buster type guys and show them his footage. Not, ..."DAY 19..." here we are back in bed like total morons.' Again, I don't want to bag on what was a tidy little low budget miracle. It was definitely a creepy and well made little film. But yes, if you're going to plow into the cash grab of a million sequels, drop the video camera angle. That angle just plain ruined Cloverfield. All I could think of was "Turn the Camera off and let some people have some privacy, dumbass." Or, "Aw come on, how did the camera survive that?" With PA I certainly wouldn't buy that other video cameras were set up and followed the same girl and the same ghost. It's the old Die Hard 2 syndrome: How can the same shit happen to the same guy twice?" Yeah, great question. In fact, how can it happen nearly the same way every time? So, yeah, I'll watch those PA sequels when the DVD's come to the library. That's how I saw the first one. I love the library. I can watch all kinds of crap. Guilt free. Like I just watched "She's out of your league" from the library collection of turd comedies. (How the librarians justify those purchases is beyond me.) But PA I can see. It's sort of a milestone. In that it was a good idea to start with. Good ideas are milestones now.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 2:22 a.m. CST

    liljuniorbrown...tell us about the 2nd time you saw IT

    by Bobo_Vision

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Does Katie Featherstone still have an awesome rack?

    by mdk

    Or is it ruined because she finally chubbed out to obese proportions like she was threatening to do in the second movie?

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Ah, lost the weight, kept the rack...

    by mdk

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2010496256/nm2209370 A rare miracle!

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    griefo, it's called schitzoprenia

    by Jaster Mareel

    It's the same a speople who think there are cameras in smoke detectors or all kinds of plots by people around them to undermine them. You picked ethereal demon-thingees, but it's the same shit. Go get some Prozac and they'll leave you alone.

  • I get that the mom is part of a witch coven or something but didn't understand why she decides to kill her daughter and the boyfriend. Also I count at least 2 scenes that were in the trailer (Bloody Mary with the two girls and some scene with an exorcist kinda guy getting thrown around). Anyway, I still enjoyed it but I don't feel like I have an understanding of what this evil force is or why it's hung up on these girls.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 7:34 p.m. CST

    @creepythinmanlives

    by Joe Damiani

    You do realize screaming Fact at the end of your post (which are really opinions by the way) doesn't actually make them facts, they're still opinions. That is a fact.

  • Here's one of the EVPs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5S05vDeKc I know there's no way of making a skeptic believe in this sort of thing, one could easily say I faked it or whatever.. but it is the real deal and it's one of many I've been able to record. I don't think prozac is the right drug for this situation, but ativan helps a little.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Griefo!!

    by ajt2111

    Could you go into some more detail dude? I believe you for the record, though the worst thing thats ever happened to me was old hag/sleep paralysis. Anyway, how did this all start? Have you tried moving? Do the fuck with you outside of your house? Have they even given any indication as to what they want? Were you ever able to communicate with one? Does anybody else in the house ever see them? Have you ever had anybody witness something? what was the worst instance of attack? i know I asked a lot of questions but this is something Im very curious about, and my heart goes out to ya bro.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Ok Griefo, that was fucked up

    by Jaster Mareel

    If nothing else I'll give you credit for creating something genuinely trippy. Couple questions: What's the weird blurry image and what is that strange background noise that sounds kind of like music? These things only bother you when you are alone or do other people notice them too? Have you been able to take pictures/video of this stuff? I'm not really a skeptic of stuff like this because I believe we live in a multi-dimensional universe and those dimensions sometimes cross over. If these things are real I would be far more likely to believe in some sort of trans-dimernsional viewing than any kind of demon or dead person pestering you because they have nothing better to do. I mean seriously, if you were dead would you spend your doing tinyt little things to freak people out....for decades? Thing about that. What's the fucking point? However, I kind of like the idea that when you die your brain ceases to be rational and is sort of frozen in time, stuck on a particular event. An endless loop of trying to figure out something that is impossible to figure out, like a record that keeps repeating the same line forever. If that is the case, then I guess you can try and figure out what possible connection you have with these things, although that's probably an excercise in futility unless you find some spiritist that isn't a complete sham. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just hoping for your sake that it's something that can be cured, because it is unbelievably unlikely that it can be solved if it is truly an external occurance.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    twuld actually be a cool movie plot Griefo....

    by Jaster Mareel

    Maybe your connection to these things isn't in the past, but in the future, in a Mothman Prophecy kind of way. When you were a child these things would happen very rarely and subtelly but as you grow older they get more powerful and vivid. You find a psychic that has a vague sense of connection, and they too start experiencing the very disturbing apparitions, whispers, etc. They get bolder and bolder for you both and the ghost-like faces becaome clearer until you can recognize their facial features. One day you're on a plane and you start to recognize people around you but you're not sure where from. Suddenly you recognize their behavior and movements as things you've seen in these "visions". Maybe they all start to recognize each other.... I don't know, maybe there's a terrorist on board and you all band together to stop them or something. Anyway, just a spark of an idea. Maybe it would help you to use these experiences as inspiration for something like a screenplay.

  • Oct. 23, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    griefo

    by Bobo_Vision

    What was the visual image in that video? That's what's confusing. If the audio is real....why use some fake visual for effect?

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    ajt2111

    by Griefo

    Here are some answers to your questions. Anyway, how did this all start? It started around 9 years ago and I guess I can pinpoint it by when I started having night terrors and sleep paralysis like you, but it happened every night for months. According to my girlfriend, sometimes I would be moaning and like speaking in tongues while this was happening. Have you tried moving? I've moved 5 times in four different towns since it began. They follow me. Do they fuck with you outside of your house? Sometimes. Have they even given any indication as to what they want? Well they want me to kill myself. At one point they were telling me they were here to take me home, wherever that is. In a nutshell, they said their instructions were to torture me until I couldn't handle it, so I would do myself in. Apparently they can't do it because it's against the rules. Were you ever able to communicate with one? I've able to communicate with a lot of them. They've told me all kinds of things. When I asked them why they do this, they give generic answers like "It's just what we do" They have said many things, all of it's pretty out there and I don't really believe any of it. Does anybody else in the house ever see them? Others have heard them, you don't see them as much as you hear them, but I have seen them many times and have captured images. Have you ever had anybody witness something? My ex girlfriend and I experienced many of these things together. She began hearing her name called when she was home alone, people standing over the bed when she woke up, then suddenly disappear, etc. We broke up a couple of years ago and I don't know if it followed her like it did me. What was the worst instance of attack? Here is where it gets really out there. They are able to make me really tired, almost in a trance like state and then they can pull me into their dimension. It's a very odd place, it's constantly in motion, nothing stays the same. Picture the shape shifting suit in A Scanner Darkly but over an entire landscape. While I'm in there, they are screaming, laughing, spinning themselves around me like a corkscrew.. just madness. And they assault me, they have devices that generate some kind of electrical shock, like an interdimensional taser, and they use it on my anus, testicles and my shoulder blades. It obviously sucks and hurts like crazy. There's more that goes on, but these are some of the regular events. It's been strange, but it does get easier with time. I still have a normal life basically, a decent job and social life. I'm not gonna let it take me down

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 1:03 a.m. CST

    wrath_of_fett

    by Griefo

    It is pretty trippy. That picture is one I took in the house. I tried to clean it up a little bit. I'm not completely sure because it's so blurry, but I think it's a picture of some of them. You can see what looks like someone in a robe maybe sitting or kneeling with their arms out and I know they wear robes. in the upper left, it looks like someone standing there. but really the more you look at it the more you see. So it could just be matrixing on my part and fixating on a really blurry picture. Still I think it looks interesting. I don't know what the noise in the background is, there was no sound in the room except a noisy clicking heater fan. If you listen to it closely it sounds like a lot of different voices talking and screaming. Maybe in their dimension they are in a crowded room. Other people like friends and my ex girlfriend have experienced some of these things as well. I don't have any videos, but many pictures. I know we are in a multidimensional world now. Before this started happening, I hadn't had any real paranormal experiences and I guess you could say I was a skeptic. I don't think these things are ghosts (like dead human spirits) and while I'm not exactly sure what a demon is supposed to be.. these things are very negative and live to terrorize. I wonder how boring it must be to just sit around fucking with me literally for years, but maybe this is all they know and it's their job, like something they are assigned to do as part of the greater order, maybe it's a karmic clearance, maybe they're harvesting souls to sell or put to work. I don't know and speculating too much can really drive you mad. What I've mentioned here is just scratching the surface, there is so much more. I have been keeping a journal the last few years. I will probably will write about the experience some day. It would be a good movie.

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    bobo_vision

    by Griefo

    It wasn't a fake image. It was a picture I took in the house where I caught the EVP.

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Missing scenes...

    by Itchypanda

    Months earlier they screened PA3 to the media at a few film festivals and the media laughed on the way because of some inconsistencies in the plot and similarities to the previous 2 movies. The filmmakers smartly paced the movie much quicker and changed the Bloody Mary scene from the 2 little girls to the adult and older girl, which worked more effectively to move the story forward and release a major character without compromising the movie with a kill too early. The scenes where the girls and the adults play with young Kristie to evoke a response from the demon wasn't believable (the demon's responses were so downright frightening, it wouldn't make sense for the family to stay another night) and the filmmakers were forced to cut it, despite high audience response. They may make it back into a director's cut, but more likely you will watch them piece-meal with commentary.

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Billy D Williams

    by lprothro

    My thoughts exactly. Definitely an age/generational thing. BTW this movie was awesome! The "Grandma's house thing was freaking terrifying!!!

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    Griefo

    by the1980mutant

    I found your tale very compelling and would still like to hear even more. Just curious... could you perhaps share a pic you have taken of them?

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    I'm embarrassed to admit it, but..

    by Poptard_JD

    I'm a 33 yr old fella, who was raised on horror films. The last movie to give me a really hard time getting to sleep was Nightmare on Elm St 3, back when I was a wee lad. These PA films are extremely effective, especially considering the budgets. It was all fun and games and jumping and laughing in the theater..but when the lights go off and it's time to go to bed, well that's a whole other matter entirely. Nice review Capone.

  • Oct. 24, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    second time i saw a demon

    by liljuniorbrown

    I was at a friends apartment, where i live we have these cool old mansions downtown that have been there for like a 100 hundred years called Antebellum homes. A lot of them have been turned into apartments for students and shit. So i was helping him get ready to go out oftown for his wedding. We were in seperate rooms trying on our suits,he used his living room and i used his bedroom. I got this sick feeling in my stomach and i swear on my life, this is in broad daylight, i was just going to run out of the room but on my way out i seen a mirror and in the mirror was this really really smal,like a child almost figure and on my life Stan Winston and fucking Wes Craven could not have made this shit together. It had on a type of suit,atleast the jacket part i remember cause that stuck with me,and it looked all melted. I almost broke my neck getting out of that house and never told my buddy.Both of those situations happened atleast ten years ago. I have never seen anything like it since thank God and i'm not a nut case. I wish i could have a sketch artist sketch the fuckers, both of em

  • Oct. 25, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Griefo

    by ajt2111

    Thanks for answering my questions man. I appreciate it. It's really funny you say what you said because my friend and I just got done watching the first PA(he'd never seen it and we went to see the third on friday). We got on the subject of demons and I said the same thing. I'm not even sure they're from Hell. I think they're just from another dimension and occasionally they cross into ours and fuck with people for whatever reason. You're a brave soul man. I wish we could get into deeper conversation about this, it's a subject that greatly intrigues me, and also scares the piss out of me.

  • Oct. 31, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Good movie but one thing...spoilers...

    by eveelcapitalist

    ...Capone says the story has been taken to its logical conclusion, but the movie ends with young Kristy about to be married off to "Toby" and that isn't ever mentioned in the first two at all. Furthermore, the endings of the first two, with Katie and the baby, Hunter, is still unresolved. Or is that it, possessed Katie makes off with baby to do God knows what? And is it just me or did the ending seem nearly identical to the ending of The Last Exorcism? It was basically the same. Black mass, demon conjuring, virgin apparently chosen to carry Satan's spawn...were the creative teams the same? I didn't look. And you KNOW there is going to be a 4th film. I mean that's just without question. These movies are made super cheap and bring in big money. No brainer, keep up with the dangling plot threads and keep pumping them out. Granted, if they can keep the quality of the films as high as they have? I'll still wind up seeing them. They'll never match part one, these are absolutely studio films, but I've had a great deal of fun watching them. But they need to close up shop. Next one needs to finish the arc and be done with it. I really don't want to see the studio turn this series into that stupid fucking Saw franchise.

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