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TRANSFORMERS 4&5... Shia out! Statham in?!?!?
Hey folks, Harry here... Variety is stating that Paramount is hot to do a back to back filming on the next 2 TRANSFORMERS - which Ehren Kruger has hatched a notion for - the Mountain is currently seeking writers. Negotiations are a brewing for Michael Bay, but we do know that Shia LaBeouf will not be back, but we're told that they're going after Jason Statham to take lead duties. Statham is well known for his capacity to kick more ass than LaBeouf... but most of that kicked ass belonged in R-territory, not PG-13. I'd shiv, whoever needed shivving, to have everyone go crazy and get Bay back to R-territory where I most love him too. But I know. TRANSFORMERS is for kids. SO - let's say they get Jason Statham for TRANSFORMERS 4&5... I'd love it if they just imported his Chev Chelios character from the CRANK series... because... CRANK: TRANFORMERS kinda works... Bumblebee could juice Chev whenever he needed a jolt or two.
Right now, the story Variety has is a little science fiction. Paramount has a lot to make happen for this story to come true. They're gonna have to pay out the wazoo to tie Bay up for 2 more films. Bay may insist on shooting a dream project first. I mean, it is a pretty big commitment. They're gonna have to get their scripts written. Well, that's never stopped them before. And they're gonna need to actually talk to Jason.
For me, this would be a chance to reboot the franchise, now that Shia is apparently out. Tonally the whole thing could shift. What do you folks think?
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Please Clickula goddess of Cinema make this happen!
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I'd watch Statham in anything...and have lol
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But with Statham I'd see the next two in theaters. But out Galvatron babay!
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Not even going close to 4&5, if they're ever going to be made. I've genuinely never been so angry at a movie as I was with Transformers 3 and with everybody saying it was "kinda fun". It wasn't. I felt like a retard had been screaming in my face for 2,5 hours. Which he had. Thanks, Michael.
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Well, maybe...
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Oct 17, 2011 8:05:18 PM CDT
So Harry, what you're saying is, Shia got the BAN-HAMMER from Paramount?
by darth_kong
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I mean what do they expect Statham to do? Become a Headmaster and start laying out roundhouses to every Decepticon in the vicinity??
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Statham might convince me to try again.
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Seriously? Is there anything to think about with that? They would indeed have to change the tone of the movies. Statham would roll the script nice and tight and shove it up Bay's pooper if he had to spew some of the horrible dialogue from the other TF movies...
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Oct 17, 2011 8:08:04 PM CDT
Who cares.You can put a palm tree as the protagonist in the movie
by killik
and it will still be a huge hit.The young generation of the ipad and the iphone,doesnt give a fuck about a good story and good characters in a movie.they are only interested in pew pew and tits.nothing else.
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Really?
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Oct 17, 2011 8:08:25 PM CDT
So the TFs are still playing second fiddle to the humans?
by hollywoodhellraiser
Man, they need to take some leads from the Transformers Prime and see how a TF movie is really done.
Get rid of Bay, LeBeef and his lame family, go easy on the CGI, make the Transformers more recognizable, and then maybe you'll have an actual Transformers movie! -
I can never take this guy seriously.
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Oct 17, 2011 8:11:30 PM CDT
Rock songs out, Angela Badalamenti in. Make TF4 sizzle, Angela!
by justmyluck
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Oct 17, 2011 8:15:31 PM CDT
Statham's acting more robotic than the Transformers...
by megatronlegacy
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That's probably what they're thinking. But really...Jason Statham in a regular car or Autobot, death racing away from Decepticons...can that carry an entire movie?
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Why didn't they do that from start? These could get very watchable now.
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Oct 17, 2011 8:27:30 PM CDT
YEAAHHHHH! I can imagine Jason Statham in a TF movie!
by gibsonusa returns
Jason Statham in a sportscar blasting down the street as Starscream closes in overhead.....I can easily see something like that!
I hope they start from scratch. Michael Bay is a good action director but I would like to see him move onto other new projects. Give TF4 a new look and style...a refresh. Also, redesign the robots to look more like the cartoons! -
Oct 17, 2011 8:33:11 PM CDT
Reboot it with Rosie and Megan together. You know, in THAT way. Lesbots, Decepticunts, Optipuss Slime...this shit writes itself.
by karl hungus
Alan Habel would be proud.
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Oct 17, 2011 8:33:51 PM CDT
Just bring Megan Fox in a tight,wet, miniskit.Then i might go and see the movie.
by killik
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Hated Transformers 3 so hard. I liked the metaphor about a retard screaming in the guy's face for 2.5 hours. I mean...there really isn't anything they could do to convince me to see this. I was out after part 1, and it's over. I want something ORIGINAL. Statham is the same guy in every single movie, and now they think that if they add robots it'll be worth something? Jesus Christ. I get it, I get it...they just need SOMEBODY to be the lead, so that they can make the movie and make money, but...who really gives a shit?
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Why the fuck do we need humans at all? They're the Transformers. How about they just draw from the mythology and make a movie about that. Maybe then they'll have a little personality.
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I couldn't even muster the energy to drive to the theater to see the last one.
The idea of a studio pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into making pseudo-serious action movies out of a cartoon and toys for eight-year-olds is just ridiculous.
Jason Statham is actually BETTER than this.
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was an amazingly under-utilized part of the last movie....I really wouldn't mind seeing that as a whole film with the human aspect being some spec ops led by Statham and Dumal...and ok fine, Tyrese too
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I respect Michael Bay for bringing his own take on the Transformers look, but I still would love to see designs based off the ORIGINAL cartoon/comics.
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Could've fooled me with the last movie. It was Sleazy Bay at his sleaziest.
Why does Transformers have to be dark and gritty? The cartoons were never that dark. Why not just make a fun movie? Y'know... emphasis on FUN. -
Because that asshat (along with every other producer on those TRANSFORMER films) should be shown the fucking door. Letting Bay run amok and delivering incomprehensible CGI effects shots is grounds for dismissal. From life.
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More recognizable transformers, more character time for said transformers.
Ya know, make an actual movie, instead of a 2 hour long music video for those stricken with ADD. -
Oct 17, 2011 8:47:12 PM CDT
Harry, no offense, but I can't comprehend how you still excited for shit like THIS, meanwhile you were apparently disappointed with Inception
by theseeker7
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As long as Bay and Kruger are involved it will inherently be a noisy, editorially incomprehensible, jingoistic, piece of shit. And for the record Jason Statham is the the king of making of shit action films. God I hate the state of action films. When a fucktard like Jason Statham is considered a "viable" action lead? Only one word of it: Imbecilic
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Oct 17, 2011 8:52:52 PM CDT
I bet Jason hasn't heard of this
by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow
What's the bet that Jason goes.." Look at this Sh@%! What the $%## mate?" I think it's just speculation and hope... how funny that would be?
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Oct 17, 2011 9:00:34 PM CDT
Make this movie a TOTAL REFRESH........and call it "TRANSFORMERS: MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE"
by gibsonusa returns
1. New Director
2. New robot designs - the current ones, while highly detailed, are a little too busy. When they start fighting it can get confusing figuring out what's going on. I would like to see a simplified, no-flames, red and blue Optimus Prime with a simpler, smoothed out face (as opposed to a million moving parts on his face). Oh, and no lips.
3. New alternate modes - In keeping with tradition of using American brand vehicles
Optimus - Red flat nose truck.
Bumblebee - Yellow Chevy Sonic.
Prowl - Chevy Caprice police cruiser
Ironhide - Red Hummer H2
Hound - Green Jeep Wrangller
Jazz - Dodge Challenger (White with blue stripes)
Sideswipe - Red Chevy Corvette
Sunstreaker - Yellow Chevy Corvette
4. Less caffeinated robot personalities - Almost all the Autobots seem to be on a wacky sugar rush. Prime is the only one that seems calm and talks normally. I know this movie is for his, but I'd like to see more down-to-earth, casual personalities.
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How about a plot that doesn't involve the government knowing something about the TFs that in turn, doesn't require any sort of real story outside of "We had it down here for years after the Civil War and the other day ... it just started blinking." and then explosions ensue and someone yells "NOooooo!"
Maybe we could, you know, explore the TFs as an alien species ... find out what they do when not working for the government ... explore the robots like one would in another movie about aliens.
And then have shit blow up and flags run up poles and parents eat pot brownies.
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Make Jason Statham go back in time with Optimus Prime to prevent the conception of Shia Labeouf. Boom, there's your plot.
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Oct 17, 2011 9:18:41 PM CDT
Statham in Transformers? That's not gonna happen.
by stereotypical evil archer
It's not. It's really not gonna happen.
Don't need Shia though. -
Rosie + Megan.
In 3-D.
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Oct 17, 2011 9:29:42 PM CDT
Transformers Vs. G.I. Joe! That's you you do it.
by stereotypical evil archer
Identifiable heroes vs. identifiable villains.
Whiz! Bang! Billion dollars!
It could be pitched as a G.I. Joe movie within a Transformers movie.
Instead of buildings falling down sideways, this time they fall UP!
Land, Sea, Air, Space! They battle EVERYWHERE!
A whole fucking toy isle in Target, that's how you advertise!
We need a hot girl, who can act. Well, let's make sure she's hot first. Acting can be fixed in post.
Make it dumb! Make it fast! Make it blow-up really pretty!
If want to reboot, let's make it happen during World War II! I always wanted to do a World War II movie!
It's like Saving Private Ryan, but Private Ryan is G.I. Joe and he has to fight Transformers!
Whiz! Bang! Billion dollars! -
You don't need an action star in a Transformers film because no matter how big his muscles are, he can't beat a deception. So get someone who can entertain the audience by being caught in the middle of big robots hitting each other.
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Since the second one is on Spike three times a day, it's a little hard to miss so correct me if I'm missing something but from what I've seen,
There's a huge amount of time spent on the humans, supposedly for budgetary reasons. That would be fine, if the human parts didn't suck. Fix that. Won't cost you a dime.
The robots. Make the robots simpler in design. They are robots that are supposed to transform into various vehicles logically, with a minimum of logical effort. They aren't supposed to be made up of several hundred tiny pieces that through the magic of CGI, morph into whatever. Fix that.
The fight scenes. Just like every other fight scenes in movies today, everything is too close, too blurry and too quickly edited to know what's going on. I have no reason to believe that this is going to change with a Transformers movie so forget that, one has to pick their battles. Just focus on the other two. Getting rid of Shia is a start. Apparently his contract with Satan is running out. -
I hate those fucking movies yet weirdly enough I wanted to write one. The movie I wanted to write couldn't be made now because it would have involved Cybertron and Megatron, both of which are now gone thanks to the third film.
Basically what I wanted to do was move away from the cheese and lame sex jokes and bullshit that everyone hates and make it about the Transformers themselves. It would also be straight up sci-fi.
It would have started with Megatron failing once again to beat the Autobots and Starscream would have garnered support among the Decepticons and overthrown Megatron. We'd find out that Starscream has a plan to return to Cybertron to activate the "Unified Controller," something even Megatron wouldn't do.
Megatron escapes and goes to find the Autobots, forming an uneasy alliance with Optimus Prime. Together with a special forces team, they would have left Earth behind to return to Cybertron and stop Starscream.
So what is the Unified Controller? I had a backstory in mind where Cybertron was once a lush, green planet. Beings from another world would have been mining the planet for resources and they would have created the Transformers. The aliens gave the Transformers a measure of sentience which allowed them to think creatively to overcome problems as they worked. Knowing that such sentience could be dangerous, they created a Unified Controller that was linked into every system on the planet and would serve to keep the Transformers in check.
Desiring freedom, the Primes led a rebellion against the aliens, shutting down the Unified Controller and eventually Autobot society flourished on the newly named Cybertron which was not a wholly industrial and machine based world due to all the mining carried out by the aliens.
Starscream would then seek to reactivate the Unified Controller which because of Cybertron's machine make up, isn't just connected to the whole planet, it IS the whole planet. The Unified Controller exists only to make the Transformers work and with Cybertron devoid of natural resources, the next logical place to mine is Earth.
And in case anyone is under any doubt, the Unified Controller is UNICRON. Unicron IS Cybertron.
Megatron has no desire to be a slave to Unicron and when Starscream reactivates Unicron, Megatron and Optimus travel into the heart of Cyberton to shut him down. Starscream is completely under the control of Unicron by this point and is quite mad. As a full scale battle between the Autobots and Decepticons takes place on the surface of Cybertron, Megatron and Starscream battle to the death at the core. Megatron wins but is badly damaged and vows that if he is going to die, he's going to take Unicron with him.
Optimus escapes back to the surface while a dying Megatron, apparently reformed, goes to confront Unicron. With Starscream dead, the Decepticons and Autobots call a truce.
And then Megatron returns...only he's not Megatron. He has been rebuilt and made stronger by Unicron. He's now Galvatron and Galvatron, with his newfound power, has one goal - destroy Optimus Prime.
What Unicron doesn't know is that Galvatron has resisted he reprogramming and has set off a reaction in the core of Cybertron that will destroy Unicron and the planet with him. Galvatron and Optimus battle across the surface of Cybertron as the Autobots and Decepticons battle each other once more.
After a lengthy battle, Optimus emerges victorious and Galvatron is left on Cybertron with a front row seat for its destruction. With Starscream and then Galvatron both dead, the Decepticons have no leader. Both sides have had enough of war and so they declare a peace. The Autobots return to Earth while the Decepticons leave in search of a new home among the stars.
And THAT's the Transformers movie I'd have made. The Transformers themselves would have had the most screen time by far and the full range of their characters would have been explored without losing the kick ass action, this time taking place on Cybertron with a planet-sized Unicron as the villain.
But then Michael Bay went and destroyed Cybertron and Megatron in his shit film so that's the end of that. The point is, Transformers can be epic, it can be awesome and it can be a spectacle. But it can also be somewhat character driven. Treat the Transformers as people and follow their journey. Oh well. Maybe someone will let me write Wonder Woman instead. -
Oct 17, 2011 9:41:27 PM CDT
The only Bay movie I want to see is a documentary about how Bay wasn't loved by his father (alleged) John Frankenheimer.
by darth_kong
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Oct 17, 2011 9:42:30 PM CDT
And he therefore developed DADDY COMPLEX and turned into the monster that he is on film sets today.
by darth_kong
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Oct 17, 2011 9:43:33 PM CDT
Interviews and testimonies from crew members will show that there is something more terrifying than Megatron and that is Michael Bay.
by darth_kong
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Casting Statham and giving Shia the boot would be a thousand percent improvement, IMHO. Unfortuately, I have seen all three Transformers movies (don't blame me, my guy is a Transformers fan) and LaBeouf was not a protagonist I could empathize with. I thought Sam got more and more annoying with as the series went along (and that's saying something, considering how miserable the characterization and writing has been.) If nothing else, Statham's a hell of a lot easier on the eyes, and I like his work better. I don't think it will happen-- but it's a great idea.
Otherwise I agree with everyone here: ditch Bay, get better plotlines, and focus on the Transformers themselves. The *robots* should be the main characters, not one-dimensional humans. Then we might just get a decent Transformers 4. I'm not holding my breath though. -
There was that earlier rumor about him and Statham working together on the next Transformers trilogy. I'd be down with that. Never saw DoftheMoon. Don't care to... If Bay comes back I'll give those a miss too.
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Brian Cox anyone?
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I already have him booked to do some handyman projects around my house for the next few months, so I don't know f he'll be available.
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Chris Tucker is driving along in a sports car, listening to hip hop, doing his head bop, when suddenly, his car turns into a decepticon. He starts screaming with his eyes buggin out like a bug and yells "Somebody call 9-1-1". Then Bumblebee comes along and shoots a missile at the decepticon and destroys it. Chris cheers and does the Michael Jackson penis tug...then he gives Bumblebee a high five and they do a moonwalk together!
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Christ Tucker painting my fences for $8/hr.
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Problem is, not everything he's in is good. Although honestly, most actually are pretty decent.
Problem is knowing studios they'll want a younger lead or add some young character side kick. -
Oct 17, 2011 10:02:17 PM CDT
Bay won't direct T4, rumor is Hasbro wants Spielberg to Direct...
by ganymede3010
In all honesty Spielberg is perfect for this franchise. He will actually allow the other robots outside of Optimus Prime to actually be characters in the movie. I'm also positive that he'll actually develop the Decepticon characters unlike Michael Bay.
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But TF3 made over a billion bucks. No way these fuckers are going to start fresh. They'd clone TF3 if they thought they could get away with it.
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...and Bumblebee changes the radio station from rap to pop music and Chris says, "Don't eve touch a black man's radio, boy!".
Then as they drive by a Megan Fox look-a-like, Chris says, "See that chick. I fucked her in the ass. Mmmmmm Mm! Belee dat." -
Statham riding around on the back of a retarded robot t-rex like Moon-Boy; the two of them wandering into a small town and helping out a single mother and her son (like Michael Knight and K.I.T.T if K.I.T.T. was an easily confused truckasaurus) by taking on the corrupt local government (who are secretly in league with the mysterious Unicron Corporation)who are pressuring her to sell her diner (which is sitting on a huge energon deposit)...Do it, Bay!
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Oct 17, 2011 10:06:25 PM CDT
Micheal Bay has a love/hate relationship with Transformers.
by nerd rage
He thinks the source material isn't worth a roll of nickels but the concept has made him one of the wealthiest directors around. Two more TF movies could bring his fortune to almost half a billion. He has no right to pretend he hates Transformers at this point.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mr-sf17vBE
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Bay will be enticed back with money and so will Shia because let's face it, that little bitch ain't got a career outside of these films. More robots blowing shit up on par with what we saw in DOTM but with even less bullshit and goofy shit this time okay. Wait. This is Bayformers. That's right--bullshit and goofy shit is the only thing this franchise knows. Still, I dig Optimus and the Autobots from these films and seeing them plus Hot Rod and some G2 Autobots taking on Galvatron and Unicron would be pretty fucking cool.
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Chris says, "Daaaaaaaaaamn, you one souped up motherfuckin' automobile...goddamn!"
Megatron says, "What?".
And Chris says, "Do you hear the words that are comin' outta my mouth?!" -
I'd like to see one enjoyable transformers movie in my lifetime...
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Oct 17, 2011 10:13:57 PM CDT
I HAVE NOTHING REAL TO ADD BUT LOVE TO HEAR MYSELF TALK! FACT!
by smysteryman
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...Chris walks up to Megatron's crumpled, defeated body and says, "Dayaaaam, you got knocked tha fugg out!!!"
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Oct 17, 2011 10:15:33 PM CDT
I don't see Spielberg taking Michael Bay's sloppy seconds.
by nerd rage
Plus "the beard" has half a dozen other projects already lined up.
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Oct 17, 2011 10:16:59 PM CDT
Did someone say daddy complex? That has Spielberg written all over it
by mugato5150
No one does obnoxious kids with daddy complexes quite like Spielberg. So Bumblebee rails against Unicron for treating him like a Volkswagon and they fight and then reconcile and learn from each other. Isn't that like every post-Raiders Spielberg movie that doesn't involve WWII?
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That would be the weirdest right turn on a series ever.
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I mean, really, are there any badass movie names more hilariously awesome than Chev Chelios without being completely on the nose and stupid like Chet Gunmetal or something. Chev Chelios is a ridiculous effortless badass name. And it makes me laugh every time I hear it.
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+ Statham + Transformers = Finally a good movie?
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Auntie Em! Uncle Henry! Toto! It's a twister! It's a twister!
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Most of the violence is robot on robot.
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is the paycheck. RIP.
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I lost my comment. Weird.
The only scene I want to see with Bumble Bee and Chris Tucker is this.
During a freeway chase Bumble Bee takes a direct hit and spins wildly out of control. Chris Tucker screams,
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I know every nerd has raging fucking jealousy toward the kid. But he wasn't what made those films suck. It was the horrible screenplays and directing by Michael Bay.
I still can't fathom why "film geeks" want more sequels to this crap. Or another Bay flick for that matter. People actually liked Bad Boys?!?! Awe, hell no...
Please guys. Stop complaining about a lack of originality coming from Hollywood. You guys see there shit, and you unfortunately enjoy it. Hollywood isn't to blame. They're a business. You're to blame. You give shit films your money & a passing review while downloading the true originals (Drive). You want R rated affair, and yet when one comes out (The Thing) You shit on it because it dares resemble your childhood fav movie. You see a trailer for a drama, and you yell Oscar bait! You see a trailer for a summer movie, and you yell populist trash! -
Oct 17, 2011 10:55:21 PM CDT
MEGATRONLEGACY- the Rock and Stone Cold in a Transformers movie?!?? FUCKIN' A!
by particularly hard vato
Fuckin' A. I don't think the camera could film the required badassery, though...
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Okay, how about Andy Dick? And plays a drug addict who hot wires cars to feed his crystal meth addiction. After hot-wiring Bumblebee they form a relationship and he gets caught in the middle of more trouble than he can handle. Hilarity ensues.
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Oct 17, 2011 11:01:00 PM CDT
Btw, what's the deal with Statham's five o' clock shadow?
by bobo_vision
That thing extends up to his eyeballs.
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Oct 17, 2011 11:04:06 PM CDT
Can someone buy Statham a packet of Gillette Mach 5's for his birthday?
by bobo_vision
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God, I hate that stupid motherfucker. He's ruined every movie he's in. I don't know how this cocksucker keeps getting work. His family must have influence or something. How else can we explain the fact that he's in so much?
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Oct 17, 2011 11:41:47 PM CDT
If Statham goes for this, have Guy Ritchie take a stab at the screenplay...
by mr. nice gaius
Statham: "Fuck me, hold tight. What's that?"
Optimus Prime: "It's me belt, Jason."
Statham: "No, Primey. There's a gun in your trousers. What's a gun doing in your trousers?"
Optimus Prime: "It's for protection."
Statham: "Protection from what? "Zee Germans"?"
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Oct 17, 2011 11:51:11 PM CDT
Tranformers could star JASON VOORHEES and still make a GAZILLION $ - IT'S ABOUT THE BOTS!!
by mennen
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Oct 17, 2011 11:55:07 PM CDT
Transformers? Is that something left over from Toshi's Power Station?
by cozy
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Jason Statham:
codename: Jason Statham
he transforms from a human sized regular person into a 50 ft tall, building-kicking super-robot...
...who looks exactly like Jason Statham.
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Oct 18, 2011 12:12:09 AM CDT
Ah, Cozy...not quite. Luke was going to go to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters. :)
by longtime lurker
And yes, I am a nerd, and a complete Star Wars OT guy, though I think Jedi is weak sauce. Ewoks and Death Star 2, blech. Just fix the sabres George and give us nice cleaned up anamorphic copies of the true originals with a well mixed soundtrack. Oh, and the prequels DO NOT EXIST.
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Those movies were terrible. Trying to make better movies will not only retain the people who sat through all 3 movies already, but also gain them some new fans.
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The clue is actually in your own post: "cocksucker"
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not in this world
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That might actually be fun to watch.
Decepticons side with the bad guys that The Expendables are trying to take down (evil mercs, a cult, etc).
Get John Woo to direct.
Hell, throw a completely unhinged Nic Cage in there too.
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The directors and the lead male role. I just want to know if Megan Fox is coming back for a three-way with that chick from the last one in 3-D. Who gives a crap about the rest.
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What does Bay really bring to Transformers other than potty humor, military brown-nosing, and some repetitive, slo-mo action. ILM does all the real work. Get a director who can actually create suspense in the action scenes and craft a story where you actually care about the outcome and Transformers will still make tons of cash. But people just don't know what their missing until they see it. Some morons probably thought the Chris Columbus movies were definitive Harry Potter movies before Alfonso Cuaron came in and revamped the movies showing its true potential.
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Oct 18, 2011 1:27:22 AM CDT
They should make Statham on the side of the Decepticons and tell this story from their POV
by professor_monster
Shiah did a good job of showing the bright side of humans and robots - now it's time to see how corporations and politicians would truly behave to get their hands on technology - including selling out the human race. Same as Burke in Aliens
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Didi you see the ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES E3 Demo?
I thought it was great.
I loved the Crusher Alien.
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Statham would be great for these. Just reboot it though. Because after the last there isn't much to do with the arcs they have established. With Statham in they would need to go into a Terminator like story line... Hold on don't leave me yet hear me out...
So in the second shitty movie they tossed in the humanoid Transformer. Then never again did they go back and use the fact that they can look like us and not just cars/planes/boats etc. I get that all they were doing was "HOT CHICK IS A ROBOT!" but it ruined a lot. Like if you could have humanoid Transformers... Why have humans help you at all in the third film? Why not plant robo-humans? Stupid bull shit I shouldn't have even wasted my time thinking about it...
Anyway for TF4 have it be more of a focus that transformers can look like humans... Just so we can have Statham fighting a robot. Frankly that's what I want... Then make the Transformers look like Transformers and not mashed up metal pieces and we're good. -
Everyone 's tired of that kid "oh no no no no no" Lebeouf.
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I meant to say "without".
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be aiming for. No human protagonist.
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Oct 18, 2011 2:14:11 AM CDT
General, this idea was obviously concocted by the CONCOCTIBOTS, but WHICH SIDE ARE THEY ON?
by nowihaveamachinegunhohoho
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Oct 18, 2011 2:23:47 AM CDT
Be nice to see Statham bangin some broad in the back of Bumblebee :)
by marineboy
Oil squirted everywhere in slo-mo :)
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Good stuff.
I'd be primed to see a Transformers film like that.
You should just change some the elements of your Transformers idea and mold it into an original story and just write it yourself. That way you'd own the rights to it and could do whatever you wanted with it. They'd never do anything like that with any of the next Transformers movies, so you wouldn't have to worry about that. The only thing is you'd have to take out the whole transforming alien robot part. I think your story idea has enough meat to it that you wouldn't need all the transformer aspects. -
You just need better quality of robot screentime not more quantity. You should apreciate the robots' motivations and how human-like their personalities are. We should also get decent character arcs for the main Autobots and Decepticons.
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Yes, I saw it and.........
I fucking loved the shit out of it!!!!!!
Seriously though, besides a few nitpicks (some weapons sounds seemed a bit off, aliens had those fin type tails from Resurrection, motion tracker had blue and red dots). I would wager that the few issues like the funky pulse rifle sound (it seemed to only be the player's pulse rifle sound FX) will be fixed by the time the game ships out to Aliens fanatics like us.
As for the Crusher Alien, I liked it. It is definitely one of those things that work great in a video game, but that I am glad wasn't in the film. Although, who knows, maybe in Aliens we just didn't see any crusher aliens? Maybe after the sentry guns ran out of ammo, and moments later they heard the xenos -
Oct 18, 2011 2:32:16 AM CDT
What's with all of these hypocritical twats that say "Who cares?"
by roketopunch
and then type a manifesto as to why they don't. Fucking idiots. If you didn't care, why go out of the way and shout your opinion. Twats. If you didn't really care, you'd go respond to another article.
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heard the xenos banging on the pressure door outside the complex... just maybe that was a crusher trying to break through?
Maybe the marines killed a crusher in the hive before Ripley drive the APC in to save their asses (we didn't get to see a lot of what went on in the hive battle after Vasquez started rocking her smart gun)?
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Seriously c'mon! That's it Russia has won. God has left the Universe to Mel Brookes. He's off redoing the Dinosaurs in Universe B. No it couldn't be Monty Python then it would've been funny. No now it's just crappy racist tit and ass humor with the goddamn useless grandfather Einstein bots with NO fucking reason for being in the story other than handing some bullshit plot saving device and getting pwned by robo fascists once more hammering guilt guilt guilt. Fuck yeah! Whooh my financial base is satisfied. Please fucking have Bay do another one with Bald... I don't care! I don't fucking care! Whatever... I just hope he fucking decks or karate chops Bays Balls off for one slight infraction with his wife. Please Mel Brookes Just one good chop to Bay's balls for fucking up Devastator two times in a row. 4 and 5 hell 123 and infinity of shit would be answered with one good toe jam to the scrotum.
Fuck fuck you gotta be kidding me. What were those movies for. Certainly not the kids. No fuck the kid with wiry ass hair or whatever it was fucking around in Princeton. Botch on roid ROIDS! Those movies weren't for anyone with brains. Fuck you could feel your soul clawing through your feet to get to some poor Chinese baby about to be born so you can be reincarnated so you don't have to watch this crap till your ten in China for free because you raped the capitalists for sending this shit in the first place.
Oh but fuck you like you can ignore it. It's Peter Fucking Cullen as Prime. Like Hasro didn't dick over an entire generation of kids with thoughts of suicide. Fuck you... every mother fucker in the 80s was getting the divorce or Dads a meth head no show. And out comes fucking Optimus Prime. Fuck Super Man reborn as a fucking TRUCK! Fuck you sanity. I'll buy it! I'll buy it! Fuck yes. Hands down bought. They kill him and now resurrect him as what? Now he's Goddamn psycho punching bag. Fuck you Bay! "Give me your Face." "Any Last Words?"
YES get me the fuck into Real Steel!
Alright whatever 4 5 6 7 fuck run that shit into the ground. Enjoy scum, circle jerk the excessive and shallow, all the power to you. Balls on baby balls on.
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Oct 18, 2011 2:41:16 AM CDT
They can call it 'The Transformer' Jason drives around in one delivering crap scripts for awful movies!
by drstrangerlove
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Please write for Obama.
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How about Vin and Dwayne racing with and against the transformers....
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If you want Michael Bay back to direct another Transformers movie. And saying it would be better rated R, with Statham's character from Crank!?!? eh!?!. I'll assume you were joking. This is the best news I've heard in a while. Maybe Hollywood will realize there will be even MORE money to be made in a better directed, well written Transformers film, where we actually CARE about the characters.
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The one thing I did notice that kinda bothered me but I let it slide because it is a first person shooter is there are a few GEOMETRICAL CONTINUITY ERRORS in the environments particularly in the operations room in the colony complex.
I think the video map has a control console on the top and I think it's on the wrong side. And the corridors and rooms seem a bit more spacious than in the movie and I don't think it's a focal length lens issue. There seems to be a few continuity errors here and there in the environments. If you compare the Game Demo to the movie you can find all kinds of stuff.
But these are nit picky things.
Yeah I fucking loved the demo. Can't wait.
The element I like about the story in the game is that the marines that show up are the ones that when Ripley asks "How long after we're declared overdue can we expect rescue?"
And Hicks replies "Seventeen days."
These are the rescue marines Hicks was talking about. I like how they are using story points from ALIENS to build the game's story.
The coolest thing I heard was that Syd Mead was brought in to do design work on the game including expanded areas in the Sulaco we never saw in the movie. I hope that's true.
I also heard in the audio commentary by Randy Pitchford that they used stuff that was in the ALIENS Technical Manual. I'll have to crack that baby open to look for clues as to what to expect in the game.
What I suspect though is that since portions of the colony are still intact after the atmosphere processor went critical I assume the game will take you to the Derelict.
Now I buy that most of the colony is still intact after the atmosphere processor blew as when they were looking at the emergency venting Bishop commented to Hicks that the blast radius was 30 kilometers. So if parts of the colony are still intact then I assume it's a possibility that the game will take the player to the Derelict.
Who knows if the game will show Space Jockeys or not. I'm kinda not for it as I'd rather see the Space Jockeys for the first time in Prometheus but who knows.
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Apart from that there'll be another Transformers movie.
Everything else is Harry's Dreamland. A theme park for fuckwits. I'm surprised Vin Diesel's name hasn't been bandied around… -
Oct 18, 2011 3:31:43 AM CDT
Ι am sorry but did i read correctly? the game's story continues
by killik
after the events from the movie? if that's the case then how on earth the colony base still exists?
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People don't understand what a blessing this is. Think of it like this....Transformers is a cage we've built that has kept Bay contained for almost a decade. So long as the studio keeps handing him fistfulls of cash for making these shitfests, he'll stay in the cage, isolated from the rest of Hollywood.
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I'm not a nuclear physicist.
But the reactor in the atmosphere processor was a FUSION reactor.
Remember what Burke said? Look this whole station is basically a big fusion reactor.
All of the nuclear reactor we have in the world are FISSION reactors and all of the nuclear weapons and tests conducted on our planet have been FISSION reactions.
So what does this mean?
I don't know how big a fusion reaction would be except that Bishop said when the reactor of the atmosphere processor would blow it would have a 30 kilometer blast radius.
So 30 kilometers equals around 18.6 miles.
So how far was the operations center from the atmosphere processor? Was it around 18.6 miles away? Closer or farther?
I don't know. Maybe the distances are in the ALIENS Technical Manual.
But from James Cameron's own script writing it is possible that parts of the colony complex survived the blast. I can buy that.
And I think that a fusion reaction blast might not leave background radiation like a fission reaction would but again I'm not a nuclear physicist. I'm not the expert.
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Greenlight that shit.
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Oct 18, 2011 3:59:33 AM CDT
I felt like a retard had been screaming in my face for 2,5 hours
by teddy_duchamp
Could not have described it better
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Oct 18, 2011 4:17:26 AM CDT
Bash your dish washer with your toaster for 2 hours, play loud music, look at FHM wank mag=instant Transformers movie!
by drstrangerlove
Be more fun too.
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Good call on the 17 days thing with the marines from the upcoming game.
As for the colony surviving the destruction of the atmosphere processor, yeah that's a bit much in terms of stretching plausibility, but at the same time how else are they going to set a sequel to Aliens back at Hadley's Hope?
It's a necessary evil I'd say. There are so many amazing things about this game that make it worth a little implausibilty or stretching of our suspension of disbelief. As you said though, so many cool things to look forward to with this game: going back as the rescue team mentioned in the film, visiting the derelict space jockey ship, and possibly finding out how those fucking eggs got onto the Sulaco (did the queen that hid in the dropship's landing gear lay it or not?). Speaking of the Sulaco and the alien queen that Ripley flushed out the airlock at the climax of Aliens, what happened to them?
The queen might not be dead, the dark horse comics had aliens able to survive in deep space, and then there was Ash's bit of studying the facehugger and finding out how it could survive extreme and hostile environments. So if a little facehugger can possibly survive in space, then a queen for damn well should be able to do so as well.
Maybe the Company found this queen and brought it back to their ship, had it lay some eggs, and then implanted them back on the Sulaco. I think we'll be going back to the Sulaco in the game, so that would explain both how the eggs got there to then hatch some facehuggers to infect Newt and Ripley in Alien 3. Remember how quickly the science team got to Fury 161 in Alien 3. Is it because they were hanging around in the same star system waiting for the shit to hit the fan at the Weyland Yutani prison colony? What other place away from Earth would be more perfect to breed and test an alien that they would plan to capture in the end? -
So the colony survives, at least partially, the explosion of the atmosphere processor. It may be a stretch, but could the buildings of the colony be made of some seriously sturdy materials?
I think in the behind-the-scenes on the Aliens DVD (Quadrilogy/Anthology), Cameron or someone mentioned that the colony structures were cargo modules and other parts of the ship that the colonists travelled in to LV-426. Basically the colonist ship was broken down to build the colony (this has to be the case, otherwise the colonists would have taken a shuttle to their orbiting ship after the aliens started popping out of people's chests).
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I agree the blast radius thing is a stretch or a necessary evil.
My problem is with all the continuity flaws in Alien 3.
-The cryotubes ejecting and looking nothing like the ones in ALIENS.
-The egg under the floor-plates or grill.
-The Adagio landing on Fury 161. Was that the name of the ship? I can't remember. If the whole ship can land what's the point of Drop Ships?
Now if the Queen in ALIENS makes it back onto the Sulaco somehow I'll buy that. Here's why. In ALIEN it was blasted out the airlock then blasted, with what Ridley called in the audio commentary, plasma jets or whatever. So if a pulse rifle can kill a warrior I'd say the jet wash from the Narcissus fried the alien. Fair enough.
So if ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES has the Queen surviving in the vacuum of space and making her way back onto the Sulaco and starting her whole reproductive cycle over again, i.e. growing an egg sac and laying eggs I'll buy that.
What I had a problem with was that when the Queen was on the Sulaco in the movie she had no egg sac and I was assuming that the eggs grew to maturity in the egg sac not in her body.
I just find it a stretch that one underdeveloped egg fell out of the Queen's vaginal opening where the egg sac connects and fell into the sub flooring and grew to maturity and when it was mature and hatched started the fire on the Sulaco and stowed away in a cryotube in the escape pod/lifeboat on it's way to Fury 161. It just takes a lot of conjecturing to get that one egg into the beginning of Alien 3.
If in ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES the Queen finds her way back onto the Sulaco, however she manages that in vacuum and zero-g, I'll buy it since I was forced to watch the LONE GUNMAN/EGG that was in the flooring of the Sulaco in the beginning of Alien 3.
I actually like the idea of the Queen making her way back onto the Sulaco then infesting it with eggs more than the one egg that was in the flooring at the beginning of Alien 3.
And there's a million other arguments I'm sure for how the egg got positioned where it was in the flooring. The tentacles at the bottom of the egg can move the egg into position blah blah blah.
No, I agree with Randy Pitchford when he says the game they made is the sequel they always wanted to see to ALIENS. Alien 3 is not the sequel I wanted to ALIENS.
In my own nerd way I am finally getting the sequel I always wanted to ALIENS and quite frankly I don't need anymore Ellen Ripley story because for me, the story of Ripley was told by the end of ALIENS. I personally didn't need to see or hear anymore story about her. I think her story was told by the end of ALIENS.
But the idea of this RESCUE SQUAD going to LV-426 to see what the hell happened is cool. Maybe redundant, but for a nerd like me, COOL.
It's like OFFICIAL EXPANDED UNIVERSE stuff and hopefully they get it right.
If the game is way cool I can look at ALIEN 3 and 4 and say SHIT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SHIT DON'T MATTER.
However If they do another game, I want it to take place on GATEWAY STATION, the MOON, and EARTH.
People should start calling Gearbox Software and tell them this. -
officially titled Alien II, that James Cameron wrote before he wrote the actual screenplay?
It is pretty interesting. Overall it isn't vastly different, but there are some different details and elements that got changed or didn't make it into the final film.
The ones that come to mind that would possibly fit into the Colonial Marines game are:
1) The notion of there being multiple atmosphere processors spread all over the planet.
2) The colonists had some shuttles that they could use to get around to the other processors (as a multi-terrain tractor like the one Newt's parents had would be too slow to use for travelling to the other side of the planet).
3) The alien warriors had a stinger in the tips of their tails. It seems that these stingers were used to inject their victims with a powerful neurotoxin (causing paralysis). This explains how the aliens can capture all the colonists and easily cocoon them. Perhaps this is why those cocooned would also appear to be dead or in a coma-like state while the alien larva gestates inside them.
Speaking of the aliens, in the Aliens screenplay, there was a third type of alien in addition to the warrior caste and the queen. They were called drones and were described as slightly smaller, albino aliens that tended to the queen (moving eggs around after they drop outta the egg sac, as well as I would guess building the hive and probably helping cocoon the captured humans.
I remember a couple years ago, reading an interview with Randy Pitchford I'm which he said they'd have the regular alien warriors in addition to running aliens (Alien 3's dog alien?), they'd have some drones. It would make sense, especially after seeing that crusher alien.
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Kane (while making the moring coffee): I can't open this milk!
Dallas: In space no one can. Here, use cream. -
Oct 18, 2011 5:47:25 AM CDT
So many idiots still trying to bash this series and it keeps making more and more at the box office, lol!
by ceejaynightwing
At what point do the silly comments like "I wouldn't pay to blah blah" and the idiots who think they get brownie points for saying "I never watched blah blah", MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE SUCCESS OF THE MOVIES?
Seriously guys, get over it, the only thing certain about these films are:
1: The general public love them.
2: They will continue to make billions!
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Yeah I read it.
I can't remember but I thought I read that Cameron said most of that stuff, multiple atmosphere processors and albino drones, was taken out for budgetary reasons but it would be cool to see that in ACM.
They need to do Gateway Station.
I don't think we ever really got the scale of and how GIGANTIC Gateway Station was or could be. I mean think of all the possibilities. It's endless from a story standpoint.
The next game needs to go from the Moon to Gateway Station to the Earth.
Maybe the rescue squad accidentally brings back a xenomorph from LV-426 after the events in ACM.
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The last thing on Michael Bay's mind is that he is making a children's films.
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It's ANGELO Badalementi, not Angela.
TF looked good, but those films were awful.
Who cares what human is gonna star in it- we need different humans making these films.
Or...NOT making them.
Doesn't matter.
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POST BULLSHIT WHILE HAVING YOUR FATHER'S COCK JAMMED DOWN YOUR THROAT AND YOUR MOTHER'S ARM SHOVED IN YOUR ASS? YOU ARE A NIMBLE LITTLE SHIT SLURPING GNOME! FACT!!
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GO FUCK YOURSELF. -
The principle behind la beef being involved is he runs around and avoids shit. Statham knocks the living shit of things. Is he going toe to toe with the bots? Unlikely. Sounds Meh.
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But is still miles better than Shia.
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wait... transformers films have scripts?
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The guy's a walking hard-on. Get someone with more storytelling ability and a touch more restraint to take the reins. Clear out the supermodels and cardboard cut-out characters and introduce some depth. It can be done.
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if thsi were to happen...
1) Statham knocking out robots
2) Statham fisting Mega Fox
Thats all.
Man its a slow day here in the office. -
Oct 18, 2011 7:33:12 AM CDT
creepy: proposed Logans Run movie could bring shot of dystopian sf
by melonman
Although we'll probably end up with 3 more Transfuckers before that ends up seeing the light of day.
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Oh transformers 4 or something... Ya know something, I have no desire whatsoever to revisit any of the original transformers movies. I'll watch the 80s movie over all 3 of the new flicks because at least that one wasn't just action porn. It didn't make any goddamn sense but it had more soul and intelligence than these new ones... no more please. No more...
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So, it's John Frankenheimer's fault we got Michael Bay foisted on us?
In the immortal words of Luck Skywalker: NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! -
Oct 18, 2011 7:47:01 AM CDT
Even Shia LaBeouf is fed up with Michael Bay's bullshit. What does that tell you?
by asimovlives
And Jason Stratham is a big fella. Bay bette watch out, or he will get a punch in the face if he keeps on throwing his usual bullshit around. And a kick in the chins.
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Just don't give it to Luca$!!!!
Wait a minute...fuck it. Why not??? -
Oct 18, 2011 7:51:07 AM CDT
by gibsonusa returns: "Michael Bay is a good action director" That's a lie i don't really understand how anybody swallowed. Because he aint.
by asimovlives
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Oct 18, 2011 7:53:13 AM CDT
Save money paramount and hire a director with some real talent...
by alienindisguise
not some blowhard asshole like Bay. He was just as poisonous to the franchise as Megan Fox's sorry ass. I don't give a fuck how much money this trilogy of shit made, it doesn't mean they're quality films. Give a 12 year old idiot hundreds of millions of dollars and you'll get the same result.
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Oct 18, 2011 7:56:17 AM CDT
alienindisguise: Green Lantern cost even more than TFuck3 and was an even bigger pile of fucking shit
by melonman
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Oct 18, 2011 7:57:36 AM CDT
I agree with smackfu: if Bay's making TFuckers then at least his sweaty mitts are away from other projects
by melonman
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Bay was already a mistake since day one. Changing directors would be a step in the right direction.
Secondly, make the Transformers movies a CGI cartoon, like THE INCREDIBLES or TOY STORY. That's what the Transformers movies should had been since the begining.
And since we are at that, hire Bad Bird to direct those CGI cartoon Transformers movies. Brad Bird is a genious with that type of movies, he could make the Transformers movies in the image of his IRON GIANT movie. In fact, IRON GIANT is proof enough Brad Bird can deal quite well with a Transfomers type movie. -
That was another big mistake from the Bay's movies. Overbusy bullshit that prevented anybody to understand what he fuck was going on with the robots and where their faces ended and their arses began.
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...utter bilge. Tried three times now, only because of the persistent nudging from friends, but just could not do it. Megan Fox is the only thing I can remember from that, and while that's kind of cool, you know I wasn't watching that for her acting skills.
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Statham's films have sucked balls.
The Transformers films suck balls.
Match made in heaven if you ask me.
Actually, The Bank Job was decent. But the Transporter films are such incredibly huge piles of shit...ugh. -
Give fans something they want. Just for once. G1 storyline/mythos, redesign the 'bots, make the Transformers the central characters. IT'S NOT THAT HARD.
Hell, I'd even be cool with an entirely CG film. -
Oct 18, 2011 8:13:25 AM CDT
Transformers fans deserve more then the movies they got so far.
by asimovlives
The Transformers cartoons might had been goofy, but the Bay's movies have been shit. Nobody deserves that crap.
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Oct 18, 2011 8:13:57 AM CDT
Ever seen Mar Kermode's review of each Transformers movie? The dude nailed it...
by scrote
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Bringing that comparison to the table wouldn't work.
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Who gives a shit if Iron Giant tanked? It had a fantastic story, and was a very polished film.
It works just fine as an example of a QUALITY film that has STANDARDS and isn't just some douchebag's coked-out fantasy.
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...regarding the badalamenti thing - it's a joke. Harry fucked up on his review of DRIVE and then re-edited his post. He'd seen a workprint of the movie with a temp score -which led most of us to conclude he'd downloaded a copy from the net.
Angelo became Angela...
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Personally I look to the quality of the screenplay, the cinematography, the direction, the acting...you know, qualities of filmmaking, to judge if something is worth my while. It makes me chuckle so much when people around here are all "PG-13? This is going to SUCK!" Remember, folks--many of the movies that brought you to this place of hyper-geekdom as a kid were PG-13 or (*GASP!*) even PG! I actually think it takes more skill as a filmmaker to stay within the PG-13 boundaries, because going R often encourages them to cover up the weaknesses of their film with a little hard action and gore.
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Oct 18, 2011 8:51:49 AM CDT
I found an amazing solution to my problems with the transformers series!
by cory849
I stopped watching.
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Oct 18, 2011 8:57:09 AM CDT
Bumblebee could juice Chev whenever he needed a jolt or two
by niemand13
That sounds SO wrong.
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Gosling proved he do the tough guy thing in Drive and is versatile. Clive Owen could bring a James Bond vibe to the series. Statham just seems too thuggish for a family movie.
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...if you like the Transformers movies, you either
A. have no soul
B. have zero self worth
C. have no concept of reality and the world we live in
D. wouldn't know a good movie if it got down on all fours and gave you a blow job while fondling your balls
E. are an idiot
F. are mentally disabled
G. just did an 8-ball of coke, and smoked about 2-ounces worth of meth
H. homophobic, mysogynistic, and racist
I. have zero taste, and DVR America's Funniest Home Videos every Sunday
J. get your daily news or current events from TMZ
K. are blind and deaf
L. are an instinctive contrarian, no matter what the cost
M. hate life
N. detest humanity
O. were forced at gunpoint
P. go to strip clubs at 10 in the morning, and then refuse to leave at 3 in the morning after closing time, forcing the management to call the cops because you keep trying to grope and molest the strippers
Q. have every book written by Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, which is pointless because you don't know how to read
R. regularly jerk off to snuff films
S. are Armond White
T. are forty-three and never been laid, or even kissed a girl, or talked to a girl...or, hell, talked to another human being without having to type on a keyboard
U. are catatonic
V. are a professional clown, and have dead people buried underneath the floorboards of your house
W. suck on old McDonalds ketchup packets for sustenance
X. never bathe
Y. hit children
Z. all of the above
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You mean the one where he hammers his head against the camera for two minutes? Yeah, it was pretty spot on!
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I wasn't talking about the fucking box office.
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I learned that lesson with the second movie. Though technically you could say i did with the first, because i didn't saw the second in the theaters... nor did i rented it either, if you get my meaning.
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Probably his best movie. I'd love to see him go back and do an R-rated action flick centered around the FBI/CIA and/or military.
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Oct 18, 2011 11:10:59 AM CDT
do the children who like these movies really care who's in them?
by beezbo
I hope Statham doesn't get the call - I'd rather see him in other things.
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Although I can't completely hate Michael Bay because he put Tea Leoni in Bad Boys, and she was my mad nineties crush. I watched every shitty episode of every cancelled sitcom she was ever in.
Fuck, I miss the nineties. Now I'm depressed.
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Oct 18, 2011 11:18:57 AM CDT
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is the only good movie Statham was ever in.
by ironhelix
I don't know why anyone even talks about him anymore. Just let him go like that dude from Avatar who's name I already can't remember.
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Honestly, you could film someone taking a dump for 150+ minutes, slap Transformers in the title and millions of people would still pay to see it.
So, why not actually try to make a good film this time?
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Oct 18, 2011 11:38:53 AM CDT
Reboot it all. Hell, the last film killed most of the characters and it completely wasted Shockwave.
by lordsoth
Seriously, Dark of the Moon was the worst one of the franchise yet. Get new writers and replace Bay.
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I was consulting at the Trump Chicago when all of the cast and director of Transformers 3 were staying there during filming, and Statham was with them for most of the shoot. He was there with Rosie Huntington-Whitley (or whatever the love-interest's name is), but I am sure he had conversations with the cast and/or Bay about the franchise... Maybe this has been in the works for longer than we think!
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...Yeah, that's the bunny. Hilarious...
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...I know what you mean...that scene with her on the bed in Bad Boys...whoof!
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Oct 18, 2011 11:54:29 AM CDT
GO SUCK THE DONKEY CUM OUT OF YOUR FATHERS GAPING ASSHOLE YOU FUCKING TWINK!!!FACT!!!
by xiphos_2
Creppythincock didn't you already star in that movie with asimovlives?
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They are movies for children. Chrildren are the public for Transformers. Just make them good children movies,the kind that alos have adult appeal as well. The Incredibles is such an example, and Pixar have been doing that quite sucessfully for two decades already. If Pixar can do it, why not the Transformers people too?
And i really hope that rumour is true that Hasbro wants Bay out of the Transformers film franchise. That would be the first time they would actually do something right for their movie franchise. -
Oct 18, 2011 11:57:10 AM CDT
`I promise the masses will still turn out even if it's a quality movie.'
by franks_television
That’s crazy talk, choppah.
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Oct 18, 2011 12:00:05 PM CDT
Statham is an R-rated movie actor not a kids movie actor
by moonlightdrive
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Oct 18, 2011 12:00:58 PM CDT
So now we suffer two new Transformers movies instead of one
by moonlightdrive
How about no more. It's tired.
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some notes:
D. Unfortunately I immediately pictured your namesake doing this.
N. If you detest humanity, I doubt you are going to get emotionally involved in the plight of Shia LeBouf and his lingerie model girlfriends.
T. Why pick on the 43-year old virgins? Haven’t they suffered enough without having to endure being called Transformers movie fans?
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Oct 18, 2011 12:04:27 PM CDT
Statham is totally wrong. The robots are meant to be the bad ass kickers...
by moonlightdrive
The human character has to first be young (connection to audience and works for the dynamic with the robots), and second move out of the way for the robots to kick ass because a human has no hope in hell (even Statham).
Obviously, he could come in as one of the military guys (and therefore have a lot less dialogue which would be a plus) and would be a step up on Duhamel but again, they are always playing second fiddle to the robots who obviously have the resources to fight other robots and be successful. -
who hates machines and kicks as for the lord.
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Oct 18, 2011 12:37:25 PM CDT
Statham casting for me means one thing: they will focus more on the military for the next movies.
by asimovlives
Basically, what i mean to say is that for the next movies, they will leave out the civilian humans and hey will focus more on the military. Because The Strat sure is a movie military type actor, when he's not playing criminal heavies. And yes, the robots will still be kept as background characters, still be the secondary characters in their own movies. Why should one expect differently?
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Oct 18, 2011 12:39:28 PM CDT
Why am i even bothering posting in here when there's a VIDEODROME talkback going?
by asimovlives
Bay's whole filmmography couldn't match one single second of screentime of VIDEODROME's quality. Proper real filmmakers like Cronenberg make Bay look like the pathetic joke that he is.
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Could be cool, if the plot of the movies focused on the Autobots and the Military and each human Nest Member was partnered with an autobot and they eventually became Powermasters/Headmasters/Targetmasters... at least that still (sorta) G1...
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Oct 18, 2011 12:58:06 PM CDT
TF3 [opening scene] LOS ANGELES: 2157 [megaplex of industry and ultra sleek buildings, buildings transforming before our eyes as part of the production/industry process.
by pixelsmack
We need to find Optimus.
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Oct 18, 2011 12:58:41 PM CDT
So now make it TF4 since I can't proof read to save my fat ass.
by pixelsmack
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i love this guy.
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Everyone knows Ratner is picking up the franchise and putting in Jackie Chan.
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DENIS = BRIAN COX'S MIDDLE NAME
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Oct 18, 2011 1:38:59 PM CDT
Asi - Bay bette watch out, or he will get a punch in the face if he keeps on throwing his usual bullshit around.
by darth_kong
I think this already happened.
When the story was told to me I didn't really pay much attention to it but here it is.
If I remember it correctly cinematographer John Schwartzman already punched him and it was during the filming of Pearl Harbor I think.
There was some kind of CLOSE CALL to an accident involving a helicopter, actors, and camera crew and when the helicopter landed or something and people in the crew were checking to see if everyone was okay there was some kind of dialogue exchange between Bay and Schwartzman where Schwartzman asked or said his crew members and everyone was okay and Bay says something like I can replace the crew how are my actors? And as the story goes Schwartzman then proceeds to punch Bay in the face or something. And if you notice Pearl Harbor is the last movie Schwartzman worked with Bay on.
At least that's the story that was told to me.
Bay didn't care about crew members on Pearl Harbor and he don't care about children.
DADDY COMPLEX or ME ME ME ME ME ME complex.
Asi this stuff has happened before it's just not put on Entertainment Tonight or The what is it Morning After Show?
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Crank was a HUGE disappointment for me. I love Statham and think he's a very dynamic performer, but Crank was just utter crap. I'd love to see what somebody else could do with Transformers. Why go back to Bay? Visually, sure, he's got talent, but the character work is just embarrassingly bad. Give JJ Abrams a shot at it, or maybe even Jon Favreau.
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No idea how a guy like Statham would fit into this universe as the main characte.r
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I live in Rhode Island, Hasbro's home base and I can confirm that Spielberg was staying at a hotel downtown where my brother runs the Valet service. So it would seem that Spielberg is having meetings with Hasbro.
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time for some new blood altogether and more focus on the Cyberton characters
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WEll, it does make sense why John Schwartzman never woprked with Bay agan. And the funny thing is, they were both childhood friends. They used to visit each others houses.
Also, John Schwartzman is Talia Shire's stepson. He's brother (or half-brother) to Jason Schwartzman, cousin of Nicholas Coppola, cousin of Sofia Coppola and calls Francis Ford Coppola uncle.
I think John Schwartzman is a talented cinematographer. I loved his work in CONSPIRACY THEORY. i dn't like his own on the Bay movies he worked with. but i blame Bay for that, not John Schwartzman.
I think Bay needs to be more punched, since stories like that exists in all movies he makes. Even on the commercials he makes. You should heard the story that Rosie Huntington-Whiteley told whenshe first met Bay for a Victoria's Secret photo session. Bay basically took her to a car ride to the desert, then he left her ther and told her to walk back to the car he was to park ahead. And he had to walk 30 minutes under the sun in th desert in the summer on high-heels. Bay wanted to know if she could walk.
You know what Bay needs? Not just another punch in the face that knocks his teeth out, but one delivered by a woman. Or a woman kicking him in the chins and knock him out. Fucker would never live down the humiliation. -
Oct 18, 2011 2:07:11 PM CDT
HERE WE GO! HERE IS THE GREAT INFLUENCE ON CHILDREN THAT HASBRO WAS LOOKING FOR. CLICK ON LINK...
by darth_kong
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/shia-labeouf-fight-cinema-public-house-vancouver-canada
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Yoiu know what that is? It's the result of years of tasking up i the ass by Bay. EVentually he had to vent out and explode on somebody. And with that he gained a few punches to the face.
I bet for many, this is great news, the idea of Shia being punched in the face not once, but 3 times in one day.
One of the reason why so many stars became unsufferable is because of the soul crushing compromises and bown doens they have to do for manic fucks like Bay. And so they vent on people they think are below them. But sometimes, one like Shia finds the wrong person to push, somebody who's not impressed witn who he is, and who's bigger and can lay down a good few punches.
Shia is lucky those guys didn't demanded their money back from the shitty movies he makes. Got punched and paying up, twice the humiliation.
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Oct 18, 2011 2:26:41 PM CDT
Since when there ever was anything positive to influence children in any of the Bay's Trashformers movies?
by asimovlives
Those movies are deranged teen jock masturbation fantasies from the derange sick minds of Bay, Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman. There's nothing remotly for children in the Bay's Fuckformers movies.
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I've never typed such a juvenile title before, but I couldn't help myself this time.
Seriously, for the love of all that is holy and good in this world, stop making these movies.
If you want to reboot it completely (and maybe that's what they're doing essentially - who knows at this point), then I might be down with it. But to continue onward with the same "story" and production (ie Bay's BLAMO! ZAP! SOCKEM! x1000000 approach)... Just no. STOP. Please, please, please just stop.
Keep Cullen. No Bay. Start over from scratch and do it right. Then I'll be down with this. But I know that isn't going to happen so f- this.
I can't believe they reboot Spider-Man to try and improve upon the previous incarnation, but they won't reboot TF so it resembles at least something from the source material (no, I don't mean the cartoon - though that's part of it - I mean the entire source canon). No, instead we get endless, meaningless "action" vomited on the screen with Cullen thrown in the mix to try to appease the old fans.
Screw this.
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Why? Mr. Bay brings the studio truckloads of cash with these films. Why on Earth would ANY studio head do a single thing different?
A great many of you guys seem to have your own xformers wet dream of what the franchise should do or be. Why don't you write up your ideas in the form of proposals and pitch a cable or TV show and see if it becomes the next Galactica or (more likely) the next Terra Nova? -
words can hardly describe what total garbage these films are. from the sitcom like music behind totally ridiculous dialogue to the running times of 2 and a half hours????
it's insane, movies like this should be 90 minutes at most. i saw the first one and hated it, avoided the second one because of the reviews and saw the third one because of the surprisingly good trailer, biggest mistake of my life.
for the love of all that's holy, let this horrible franchise die. -
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_vs0yz2zu?adid=rr_raw_and_uncut
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How can anyone still like this tripe?
The so-called "films" are terrible. -
Oct 18, 2011 3:08:36 PM CDT
It's time for a CROSSOVER! Bad Boys versus Transformers!!!
by billy_d_williams
I'm serious, these movies these days are so unbelievable ridiculous, the only next sensible move is to do what comic books do when their ideas get stale...CROSSOVER STORIES!
Think about it, Will and Marting wisecracking and trying to dodge giant robots under the direction of Bay!
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Oct 18, 2011 3:14:45 PM CDT
thecock90 - That footage was more REAL than all 3 Transformers flicks combined. Jesus Harold Christ...
by darth_kong
Canadians. Who knew?
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http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/17/shia-laboeuf-fight-video-vancouver-the-company-you-keep/
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Bay should have made GIJOE. Everything about Bays movies lends itself more to JOE than to FORMERS. GIJOE has some of the best source material (Larry Hama /Marvel Comics) and got the worst treatment of ALL genre/comic/toy/hero films to date. XMEN, Spiderman, Captain America?. Done with class, smarts, respect. GIJOE? The SMURFS and Chipmonks were treated better. ... Bay could have made GIJOE 1000% better that what we got. Transformers, not so much. But at least Transformers HAD an Opimus Prime. GIJOE didnt even get a legic Cobra Commander or Destro. BS. THE ROCK, Armegeddon, BAD BOYS, even Pearl Harbor, just the kind of tone and style that would work for GIJOE. What a shame.
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You mean the tone of complete total retard shit? I'd say the GI Joe fans deserve better. If i was a Gi Joe fan, i'd take your post as an insult or a bad joke. Bay is good for nothing, period.
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I can hear you laugh from here.
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Brian Cox get peed on by Bumblepee
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Oct 18, 2011 4:32:07 PM CDT
Can we use any other classic album titles for the new Transformers?
by tikidonkeypunch
Transformers 4:Appetite for Destruction...TF5:Electric Ladyland...
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just check it out on youtube. It's on there!
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Oct 18, 2011 4:59:59 PM CDT
Hey I got an idea, let's the make the new star Optimus Freakin' Prime!
by onin solstice
Who goes to see TF movies to see humans? Raise your hands....
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Oct 18, 2011 5:00:13 PM CDT
I know it is cliche by now to throw this name around, but I'd seriously love to see Blomkamp do the next Transformers
by lv_426
Of course, let him start from scratch and throw out all the crap elements that Bay and company put into the franchise (except for using some of the original Transformers cartoon voice over actors, and Hugo Weaving was a pretty damn good voice for Megatron).
Of course, Blomkamp probably wouldn't go near a Transformers film, but he'd probably do a good job on it if he wanted to do one.
What if he teamed up with Peter Jackson again as producer, and they had WETA to do effects? They'd probably be able to deliver a much better film that cost less, meaning they could actually tell a story and make something out of Transformers that is not just all about the explosions, teenage girl ass shots, pot-brownied up La Beef parental antics, and stupid John Turturro monkey business (I seriously lost a lot of respect for this dude after seeing him in the first two Transformers films).
So besides some of the voice over actors for the Autobots and Decepticons, throw out pretty much everything else that Bay did with the Transformers. -
Oct 18, 2011 5:02:52 PM CDT
Someone, either in this Transformers 4 talkback or the other one, mentioned that the next one should be called TRANSFORMERS: More Than Meets The Eye
by lv_426
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=Maybe the rescue squad accidentally brings back a xenomorph from LV-426 after the events in ACM.=
Yes.
That is where they should take the Colonial Marines series of games if there are sequels.
Maybe start out on Gateway, making the overall goal of the game to not let any aliens get off the station and to Earth or any other colonies.
Then of course, being the second act of the trilogy, the aliens get to Earth, and the third game is the Earth War.
A fourth game could be after Earth is cleansed and there are some extra-solar colonies that need to be de-xenomorphed. So send in what remains of the Colonial Marines.
Then if they make anymore, the alien/space jockey homeworld would be a place to take things. Of course, depending on what happens in Prometheus will possibly determine the course that this could all take.
You're right about Gateway Station though. We don't know if we say the whole thing or just a corner of it in the beginning of Aliens. It could definitely be used for tons of gameplay and story possibilities. I'd love to see a multiplayer map for the Colonial Marines game that is set on Gateway Station. -
It would be great to get to eventually go to Arcturus, and maybe get a hint about that Arcturian poontang mentioned in the film.
I would assume there is a colony on a planet in the Arcturus star system. Could be a resort or maybe there is a big military base or station there?
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What a bitch! lol He just curled up in a ball and then tried to kick the guy. I guess all that training for his action movies has payed off.
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Oct 18, 2011 5:30:07 PM CDT
The only movie I'd want to see Bay direct nowadays would be Crank 3 or maybe Expendables III if the next Expendables movie warrants a sequel
by lv_426
Crank 3 would work because, let's face it, Crank is pure id run amok. It may not be everyone's cup of Statham going bonkers type of tea, but it is what it is and doesn't hide behind being a lowest common denominator kid's summer blockbuster.
Expendables III would work because Stallone would be starring, producing, and would have written the script. Stallone would also be there to keep Bay from ruining things while on set. Also, if Bay got uppity and thought he as the big man on the set, he'd have all of the Expendables cast (Stallone, Dolph Lundgren, Statham, Bruce Willis, Arnold, and Chuck Norris) there as a motivation to not be an egomainiacal dickhead and to just make a movie dammit! Not a leer at Megan Fox's ass while scraps of incomprehensible balls of metal roll down the hill. -
Oct 18, 2011 5:41:34 PM CDT
cobb05 - maybe shirtless guy remembered when he had sat through TF 2
by cartmanez.
and wanted to kick his ass
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Oct 18, 2011 5:43:53 PM CDT
they are making a 4th for two reasons ...1. the Billion $ gross of TF3
by cartmanez.
and 2. so they can call it Trans4mers (T4M)
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So much more suited to that mongoloid over Jason Two Bricks One Plank Statham.
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Oct 18, 2011 5:53:30 PM CDT
lv_426 My feelings on where Space Jockeys should come from...
by darth_kong
I hope Ridley does something along the lines of this.
Take gravity. As a particle. Or even M-theory.
Gravity appears to us to be weak.
Now if I understand what physicists are telling us gravity is in a sense DILUTED.
It's not just in our dimension or universe it is in other dimensions and universes. Gravity exists in more than one place. Weird huh?
So if you master gravity the universe and other dimensions become much smaller places. You can get around faster.
That's the angle I hope Ridley uses with the Space Jockeys. These guys mastered gravity, figured it out, and are from another dimension or universe that we will never get to anytime in the near future. But, who knows.
All of the space ships and vehicles in the ALIENverse thus far have used Newtonian mechanics for propulsion but it's a bit funny that in ALIEN Ripley alters the GRAVITY VECTOR so there is gravity on the Nostromo. That's the biggest flaw in ALIEN but hey it's a movie and I love it. You know, using jet and rockets for propulsion instead of FIELD PROPULSION but they have gravity plates for the flooring. WOOPS!
Anyway. GATEWAY STATION is something they should do but make it MASSIVE like the size of New York city or something.
Gateway Station was one of the most missed opportunities in the ALIENverse. Now it's ripe for the picking. Hope they do it.
If they do ARCTURUS they should consult Cameron on the designs. By that time I would imagine he'll be done with AVATAR 2 and 3 and could spend a couple of minutes saying these were my ideas for Arcturus blah blah blah. Cool. Now go and do it. -
Why not just use the xisting characters and let one of those guys step to the forefront of the franchise? The G.I. Joe type guy who led the elite military squad would be a good choice. Hell even Tyrese Gipson is a "star" in his own right, and has a string of hits from other movies. Seems like it'd make more sense to keep the continuity going than trying to reinvent the wheel. people are going to flock to see it, because it's the TRANSFOMERS, period. Regardless of the lead. Optiimus and Bumblebee should demand pay raises. They're obvioulsy under appreciated and taken for granted.
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I kinda see the space jockey stuff not being something the Colonial Marines games should explore or delve into too much.
The Colonial Marines storylines should stick with Earth, the Solar System, Gateway Station, and some other colonies (like Arcturus for example). Maybe we'll eventually go back to Fiorina -Fury- 161. There is also the Thedus mining colony that is supposedly the place the Nostromo was on a return trip from in the film. I'd love to see that place. Thedus, being a mining colony, would probably feature lots of tunnels and corridors to shoot at and run away from aliens in.
Although, I wouldn't mind seeing space jockey relics crop up in the games. They never used that domed egg silo designed by Giger that was then cut from Alien. Something like that could be found on another planet or moon and be filled with eggs. Also, maybe some more space jockey ships could be found crashed on a remote planet or in orbit around one? Or maybe a whole moon with egg silos scattered about the surface, implying that it was a stockpile world for storing the xenomorph eggs, and then of course the space jockey race is either dead or left that part of the galaxy for whatever reason. Or as you say, maybe they are from another dimension or alternate universe?
Cameron coming back to consult on the design of Arcturus would be amazing. Maybe get Ridley involved if they want to let the player go to Thedus in another Colonial Marines game (unless he puts that in Prometheus).
What would be great is if Aliens CM becomes its own offshoot of the Aliens mythos, and James Cameron then consulted on that one.
Then another game developer could take the more dread/horror focused feel of Alien and maybe Ridley Scott could help out on that game series? It could be more of a survival horror or RPG style than the FPS of Colonial Marines. -
I think you're right.
The more I think about it Gateway Station should be a game in itself.
They should call the sequel to ALIENS COLONIAL MARINES...
ALIENS GATEWAY STATION.
Gateway Station accidentally gets infected with the Xenos from LV-426 and you have to try to stop them before they somehow make it to Earth. -
fate of the Ghostbusters game.It will be a game made by fans for the fans while paying tribute to the movie.It will be really well made in the technical aspect and in will be very faithful in even the slightest detail taken from the movie.
It will have some cool ideas and it will be fun to play for some time,but it wont be something unique and groundbreaking in the videogames market,so it wont have the success that its producers are expecting and it will quickly be forgotten.
It wont be the first time that this will happen,a lot of movies turned into games have failed,so my advise is dont have high hopes for this game. -
I'm already happy with what I've seen on the E3 demo.
And rumor is the Wii U touchscreen controller may act as a motion tracker.
I don't expect the second coming of Jesus Christ like most disillusioned people in the United States but I think the game will be fun from a game standpoint.
I'm more happy with what I've seen in the E3 demo as a sequel to ALIENS than ALIEN 3 and 4.
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Oct 18, 2011 7:20:30 PM CDT
Statham has the personality to match Bay's style
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
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Oct 18, 2011 8:55:27 PM CDT
The video of Shia getting his bitch ass kicked was hilarious. I bet Bay, Stone and Spielberg wish they could have gotten in a few.
by karl hungus
The only thing that would have made that video better is if LaDouche had been yell-suttering "NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO..." as he was getting pummeled into the sidewalk.
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As I said in the other TF4 talkback, Bay has fucked up Transformers by:
1. Killing off Shockwave and Starscream. Marvel Shockwave is the fan's favourite villain, and Bay shoved him onto a worm and wasted him. Starscream was wasted too, and then killed off, so the two characters who famously don't like Megatron are gone.
2. Optimus Prime says "we will kill them all" and happily sacrifices human lives to prove a point, and kills mercilessly. This now makes Grimlock redundant as a character.
3. A large chunk of Cybertron is destroyed. The Optimus Prime of the cartoons and comics would not have considered Cybertron's fate a victory. It basically fucks up any future development of Cybertron.
4. Bay has, as stated above, played fast and loose with the characters, turning many of them into generic "Hollywood Robots".
Bumblebee is a generic Hollywood Robot; the cute cuddly robot who makes cute robot sounds, just like a pet.
This goes against the whole point of Transformers; they're sentient beings, not pets.
Also, the Autobots working for the US government is stupid. The Decepticons looking more alien than the Autobots is another idiocy, missing the point of the TFs being individual characters rather than "races" (when you think about it this Hollywood trope is vile).
Basically, the thing needs to be rebooted. As for Spielberg, he is as ignorant of Transformers as Bay.
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As I said in the other TF4 talkback, Bay has fucked up Transformers by:
1. Killing off Shockwave and Starscream. Marvel Shockwave is the fan's favourite villain, and Bay shoved him onto a worm and wasted him. Starscream was wasted too, and then killed off, so the two characters who famously don't like Megatron are gone.
2. Optimus Prime says "we will kill them all" and happily sacrifices human lives to prove a point, and kills mercilessly. This now makes Grimlock redundant as a character.
3. A large chunk of Cybertron is destroyed. The Optimus Prime of the cartoons and comics would not have considered Cybertron's fate a victory. It basically fucks up any future development of Cybertron.
4. Bay has, as stated above, played fast and loose with the characters, turning many of them into generic "Hollywood Robots".
Bumblebee is a generic Hollywood Robot; the cute cuddly robot who makes cute robot sounds, just like a pet.
This goes against the whole point of Transformers; they're sentient beings, not pets.
Also, the Autobots working for the US government is stupid. The Decepticons looking more alien than the Autobots is another idiocy, missing the point of the TFs being individual characters rather than "races" (when you think about it this Hollywood trope is vile).
Basically, the thing needs to be rebooted. As for Spielberg, he is as ignorant of Transformers as Bay.
Simon Furman should be involved, at the very least as a consultant.
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Seriously it was brought up after DOTM came out and was immediately shot down.
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I agree that Aliens Colonial Marines might not be the biggest video game super smash hit like Call of Duty or Gears of War or something like that, but at the same time, I think it has the potential to make a much bigger splash than the Ghostbusters game.
Ghostbusters is cool and all, but this is ALIENS!
Most gamers are going to be into Aliens over Ghostbusters. Also, Aliens has a special place in gaming history, as it has influenced so many classic and non-classics that it is practically part of the language of video games (Metroid, Contra, Halo, Doom, and many more).
Even the most recent PS3/360/PC FPS Aliens vs. Predator game (the third in the AvP games FPS franchise) did pretty well sales-wise, and that was after getting pretty mixed reviews too.
So if AvP 3 the game can do well on bad reviews, Aliens CM, unless they seriously bungle the hell out of it and do no advertising, it should do well. The only thing is if it comes out on the heels of another massive game like a Call of Duty, Gears, or Halo title. As far as I know, Aliens CM will be released next spring. The only other big massively anticipated game coming out around that time is Mass Effect 3 in March 2012. So maybe Aliens CM hits the shelves a month or two later... and it should do well.
I feel the same about it as darth_kong. It feels like a worthy offshoot of a sequel to Aliens that sidesteps the lesser regarded films that came after (Alien 3, Resurrection, and AvP). It looks amazing from a gameplay standpoint. If it were a film using this same story of the colony still being there and stuff like that, then it might be too much of a stretch, but for a game, it just works. The main draw is that it is going to let me play in the same environment as the second film in the series. That goes a long way in terms of me forgiving the big stretch of believability they had to pull with the colony still intact.
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Kingdom of Men, I'm asking you to surrender, I have just destroyed Optimus Prime and...fucking Statham? I surrender!
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Then his heart becomes a car/plane right and fuck up all the robots
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I happen to catch that footage while the missus was watching TMZ and all I can say is, what a typical Hollywood pussy.
He is not worthy of tapping both Meagan Fox or Rihanna.
I guess the hairy fat guy who administrated the beatdown, didnt care for DOTM and especially KOTC.
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Oct 19, 2011 3:16:45 AM CDT
"Here's an idea, have the protagonist and main characters be TRANSFORMERS!" This is why i defend the notion that Transformers should had been a cartoon all along.
by asimovlives
With a cartoon, it's easier to have non-human characters as acceptable protagonists, and nobody would had a problem. Woth a cartoon, the robots whould be the protagonists of their own mvie, instad of what has been happening with the Bay's latest cinematic tragedies.
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Oct 19, 2011 3:26:02 AM CDT
You know what even makes me more sick about this Transformer franchise. And I haven't heard one GODDAMN PERSON EVEN MENTION IT. Gabriela Cedillo.
by darth_kong
Meditate for her.
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Hollywood is a business. If you're going to bring up "Iron Giant" (and hey- I love that movie as much as you guys), you also have to acknowledge that it didn't perform. So, what reason would Paramount have to follow that movie as if it's a recipe for success? Come on, man... at least think about it a *little*. Yeah, "Iron Giant" was good, yes, it was a shame it didn't do better, and YES, Brad Bird would be a good director. But studios DON'T make movies for fun, they make them to make money.
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Before you start in, we all know how much you hate JJ's Star Trek.
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was a huge Indy fan, he wanted to kick George's ass but as GL dosnt hang around bars much made do with Shia
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I read a bunch of my older posts on AICN because I'm bored and can't sleep. Holy shit, I sound really douchey in a lot of them. I don't know if it's my choice of language or use of caps to emphasize words, but damn... I really don't mean to come off that way- and I'm not like that in person. Wow, moment of reflection happening.
But, I still think telling Paramount to look at "Iron Giant" would be a bad thing. Bean counters see money, not talent or potential. -
Not very good footage. Most of the beating is obstructed in view by a bearded hipster. Then at the last minute some douche is grabbing Shia's neck and pressing their foreheads together. Can't tell if that guy is his friend or foe. Vancouver is simultaneously one of Canada's biggest hippie peacenik cities and one of Canada's most violent cities. Nothing cool about someone getting beatdown by a fat drunk slob. Shia probably can't go out without having to take shit from fat slobs.
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I don't know what precipitated the fight, but I'll bet good money he gets shit everywhere. Kind of messed up for people to think he deserves it just because they happen to not like his movies.
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Whether or not they would look at it for financial reasons is one thing, but to see that it was adored by critics is kind of an indication that Bird :might: have been on to something. Then came The Incredibles, and again, he placed story telling above the bullshit that most of the morons in Hollywood eschew in favour of the same old bullshit.
I'm trying to be idealistic here in that no matter what the Box Office take of The Iron Giant WAS, it stands as a fucking great movie. Just because the mouthbreathing yeehaw masses ignored it doesn't mean it shouldn't be held up as an example of great story telling. I'm sure it would be ignored, but it SHOULDN'T be.
As for the Shia fight. That's typical of that shit hole city. Fuck Vancouver. They parade around all the time, dumping on the East (Toronto) and yet how's that egg on your faces after the Stanley Cup? It's a beautiful city full of fucking retards. Fatty arbuckle will probably die the way he lives. Fat, shirtless and riddled with VD.
And if that guy with the plaid jacket on was his friend then he's also a fucking asshole for manhandling his friend at that point. Shia's no UFC fighter so there was no need to handle him as he did to calm him down. -
Oct 19, 2011 8:08:23 AM CDT
Shia could have avoided the smackdown if instead of hitting the bars hed stayed in and watched his movies.
by cartmanez.
just think of all the shit that goes on because of booze and hitting the bars/town. fights, accidents, injuries, bad hangovers next day, some people dont even come back home at all. then theres liver damage. a while back i was in hospital and next ward along was the liver transplant unit full of guys, some young, all going yellow.
you better off just staying in on a friday night with AIC, a stack of comics and dvds and pizza. -
Oct 19, 2011 8:16:33 AM CDT
RE: "Kind of messed up for people to think he deserves it just because they happen to not like his movies. "
by stalkeye
On the contraire, I don't think he deserved to have his ass handed to him. I'm sure he was picked on just for being named "Shia" alone.
But truth be told, if anyone from the TF camp is deserving of a beatdown, it would go to the ringleader himself; Mikey Bay for releasing overly pretentous drivel like Armedgeddon, Pearl Harbor and now the 'formers series.
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"Optimussssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss..aaaahhhhhh"!!
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Oct 19, 2011 8:19:56 AM CDT
cartmanez, I guess sometimes you just have to take what you can get.
by stalkeye
Unfortunately for Shia, he had to take one for the team. XD
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Oct 19, 2011 8:39:22 AM CDT
Look how many posts. You guys LOVE transformers. So just shut the fuck up
by ultratron
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Oct 19, 2011 9:01:42 AM CDT
whenever i watch a TF movie i cant help but feel ashamed thinking about what future generations will think....
by cartmanez.
people 50-100 years from now who download Revenge of the Fallen into their brain what they gonna think?
"Man people back then actually LIKED this stuff?! THIS was entertainment to them?! no wonder the world was so fucked up! LOL"
our generation really needs to start making better quality movies...even Star Trek felt as if Michael Bay had directed it...(i did like most of it but it definitely felt 'of its time') -
Aint that the truth?
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Oct 19, 2011 10:37:29 AM CDT
TFs 'boring alien tech' influencing just about every SF film made since 2007
by cartmanez.
as harry said in his Cowboys/Aliens review ever since TF "it seems that ALIENS tend to shop for their tech from a handful of modern tech designers"
hes got a point..since 2007 theres been:
Star Trek (Neros transformer like ship)
T4 (Transformer like Terminators)
Skyline (the alien tech design)
Cowboys and Aliens (ditto)
Battleship (ditto)
ive probably missed a couple too.
in 2007 its almost like film studios went 'OMG Transformers has made $700m! from now on all alien technology must be like transformers!!' -
Oct 19, 2011 10:39:17 AM CDT
ultratron, that type of irony went out of fashion in 1991.
by asimovlives
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Oct 19, 2011 10:40:48 AM CDT
RE:Shias smackdown...Shia needed Captain America "Ta Dah Dah Dahhh!"
by cartmanez.
thank you to Wall Street 2 for that one
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I also dislike that pointy ungly overbusy design that's so prevalent in Holywood Sf blockbusters. And as if that wasn't enough, that design returns for BATTLESHIP. As if i had any interest in watching that crap, anyway.
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We *do* love Transformers. That's the exact reason why we get pissed off. We waited forever for a live action movie, and when it happened, then the franchise we love was treated like shit.
I know these films made money. And I get why the studio wants to make more. But I guess it's too much to ask to at least let the films be well made. -
heh, that was perhaps the best line from that waste of a sequel. Not to mention that the only highlight from WS 2, would go to Sheen's (Bud Fox) lil cameo.
Glad to see/hear Cap getting a nod or two however. -
I saw the video. A big, teetering, fat guy, throwing dainty little slap-punches with zero power. When he stands up, he almost falls over.
Then the picture circulated of LaBeouf from the next day (getting coffee or something), not even a bruise. Again, that out of shape chubs was about as effective as a 2-year old :D
The only thing hurt was LaBeoufs ego (he should watch his own Transformers movies for some real pain).
On topic: can the Transformers movies possibly get any worse with Statham? I finally saw #3, maybe not as bad as #2, but that's kind of like qualifying two piles of s***.
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Great, another rich entitled movie star who gets his ass handed to him by an overweight drunk guy. With all the problems in the world, people give a shit enough to defend some rich fucking prick who starts all this shit himself? Fuck him, and fuck every entitled child star who thinks they're better than everyone else even though really they're just pretentious morons with no perspective on the world.
Shia is one of the worst, he's neither a "bad boy" or a nice guy. He's just a dick, and he's neither so bad it's funny nor a great actor. Just mediocre. Sometimes I really just don't get why someone becomes a star, but whatever. At least the Bryan Cranston's of the world get mad respect. -
Oct 19, 2011 3:11:14 PM CDT
your moms box - heh yeah its like a drunk Cartman slapping down Kyle then it getting broken up by Timmy as
by cartmanez.
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Oct 19, 2011 3:14:58 PM CDT
THe hero of Transformers finally met his match: a drunk fat canadian. Megatron aint shit on him.
by asimovlives
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Now that would be a landslide fight.
Heisenberg could just stare him down and make him piss his pants. -
=Where's your Transformer now bitch?=
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Gus: Are you a douche bag Mr. LaBeef?
Shia: Um... no.
Gus: Then stop acting like one. -
Oct 19, 2011 3:25:29 PM CDT
what about that guy who administrated a beatdown to Russel Crowe?
by cartmanez.
imagine the sheer pride that must come from the knowledge that you performed beat down to Maximus
a bit more impressive than "hey i performed a beat down on Sam Wickity" -
Don Eladio (in Spanish, subtitled): I hear your Transfamormios are muy profitable. Si?
Shia: Yea, I make lots of money to just run around and yell... Optimussssssss!
Don Eladio (in Spanish, subtitled): I hear that the people on Ain't It Cool News make jokes about these films, that they are for what you say... hillbillies, red necks, and mouth breathers?
Shia: Screw you man, I'm a movie star.
Don Eladio (in Spanish, subtitled): Of course you are Senor LaBeef... Hector, pour a drink for our guest. -
Old Hector wouldn't even look at Shia.
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Gale would just turn Shia to the gayside and they'd make wacky karaoke videos.
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Shia actually wanted to take his "acting" career a different path, saying that Transformers doesn't "allow" him to move ahead with that.
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Hahaha, well done. If I had time, I'd photoshop up something :D
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The Hoff, while out at the bars, would get into his car Kitt from Knight Rider, and would unknowingly run over Shia on the way to Burger King.
The Hoff would swing through the Burger King drive-thru to pick up a Whopper, then would go back to his hotel room to eat it while half-passed out on the floor while The Hoff's daughter sat there and videotaped him drunkenly eating his flame broiled burger.
I suppose that would technically qualify as some sort of a Transformers / Knight Rider crossover?
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Gale would just turn Shia to the gayside and they'd make wacky karaoke videos.
Hank Schrader would then find said karaoke videos during a gimp mobile investigation, and would make fun of Shia and Gale. -
Oct 19, 2011 4:59:03 PM CDT
Get rid of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley.. she's a ugly bitch!
by scriptgirl_nipples
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every frame of Rosie in Transformers was sexy. it was like watching a documentary about the Godess Aphrodite.
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Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is ugly?? You are either gay or a very jealous girl.
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