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Fox says of “Subject Nine”:
Olivia uncovers a dangerous force that may be connected to Walter's past experiments with the drug Cortexiphan. Their investigation forces Walter to leave the lab for the first time in years as he and Olivia head to Massive Dynamic in New York to examine old case files. Walter struggles with life outside the lab as he comes face-to-face with the demons of his past.
9 p.m. Friday. Fox.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST
Hate to say it but last season's ending kind of pissed me off
by alan_poon
And it's not Fringe without Joshua Jackson.
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Nina returns!
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST
I stopped watching as soon as they moved to Friday, is this season good?
by moorE12
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Nice tension.
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is just more proof that this show is still alive and kicking just fine. Hilarious.
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the third episode was way better than the first two.
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I wanted a huge epic storyline, especially with the....things they found early on. I know it's coming, but it's taking awhile.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST
If you stopped watching it when they moved it then you missed a LOT
by cookepuss
Fringe, like the X-Files before it, does a bunch of stand-alone episodes, but it's a fairly continuity heavy show. At the point you left it, there were just getting into the core differences of the two worlds and why they were that way. IIRC, S2 left off with our Olivia being trapped on the other side. I'm not going to ruin S3 for you, but there's a very heavy odd-even split between both realities in that season. Some people complained that it made the show hard to follow while the typical hater bs typically contained the words "jumped the shark." However, as with all thing Fringe, it's always moving forward and all of that back and forth was done with very good reason. Trust me when I say that Fringe isn't Lost and won't leave you hanging for years without resolutions or answers. Now that we're in S4, the show has (essentially) returned its focus to the core reality and the mythos moves forward in a new, interesting direction. If continuity heavy shows are not your bag then don't bother tuning in to Fringe. You'll be totally lost, having messed S3. However, if you're willing to play a little catch up and watch last season - or at least read the Wiki synopses - then you'll really enjoy it. Walter is still very odd, yet equally funny and sad. Olivia is still hard boiled, even if Torv can't consistently nail the accent. Everything, more or less, is as you remembered, but with the plot advanced in a new direction that feels organic. The move to Friday has only affected the show in so much as being in the "death slot" forces them to move things forward and never linger for to long. Much like Dollhouse before it, if you know that this season might be your last, you're less likely to waste screen time and stories that don't contribute to the greater tapestry. Personally, I love Fringe. Its like the X-File when it was actually still good, when it was delightfully convoluted, but never so confusing as to be unenjoyable. It is, in a word, fun.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST
@happybunni: They've been one-off episodes, but only in part.
by cookepuss
There's that Walter/Peter thread that's building and its touched on every episode. At the same time, without getting into too much detail for moore12's sake, they HAVE been exploring the new status quo. It all just hasn't been in huge detail. It's all been the equivalent of moving into a new apartment. It's home and you can get comfortable in your routine, but you're not quite ready to leave your dirty underwear or socks on the floor like you used to just yet. You want to get a feel for the place before you return to form - and your piggish ways. Fringe is just settling in and feeling the carpet with its toes now. Its got its bags unpacked and will soon be ready to start leaving its jockeys everywhere too.
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This show sucks without Joshua Jackson. True fact.
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and boom goes the affirmative racism dynamite.
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Emily VanCamp.....yummy
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I don't want to be, but I am. Maybe I like seeing one per centers being humiliated and destroyed.
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It had to do with quality. The Charlie's Angels movies took in ~$523m worldwide and one of those Angels was the lovely Chinese-American Lucy Liu. The TV show got canceled for 3 real reason. 1. It straight up sucked. Frankly, it was a garbled mess. 2. Victor Garber is awesome, but he's no John Forsythe. (Sorry, Charlie.) 3. Audiences tuning in are probably more accustomed to the movie Angels and not the 1970s show, which this one shares more in common with - spiritually. The movies were goofy, over the top, & 100% titsploitation, but it was such bad was actually kinda good - or at least fun. I'm not saying that they're masterpieces, but they're something I do enjoy going back to now and again when they're on cable. With the new show, I had trouble stomaching it. I certainly wouldn't want to go back for repeats. Cancelled after 4 eps. Is it so surprising? Honestly, they should've gone back to what worked and what people knew. Given that the original show debuted in 1976, you'd easily have to be 40+ to have seen it when it was new. That crucial 18-35 demographic will most likely remember the goofball, titsy 00's movies instead. Farewell Charlie's Angels 2011. I hardly knew ya and am better off for it.
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The pilot was kinda shaky, particularly with the twin FX, but the show has consistently gotten be better with each episode. It's sudsy fare, but the red herrings and shocker endings keep me coming back for more. If any show deserved better ratings its Ringer.
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and i just discovered that Christopher Chance is banging Olivia in real life.AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHH.
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Sad to see Peter return so soon.
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Bryan Cranston and John Noble in a room with nothing else. They improvise scenes. That is all.
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Cause that would have awesome.
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Always gives up on a show. 2-3 weeks, then it's done. Now their style of programming has been copied by every other network. Thanks a bunch, FOX. BTW: your baseball coverage sucks donkey bags. X-factor sucks. American Idol sucks. Here's an idea: if you think you should cancel a show, don't. Then, if you think a show should get picked up again, cancel the fuck out of it. You have ruined television. If I see one more fucking commercial for that steaming pile of anal leakage "Terra Nova", I am going to set fire to a drunken poodle (they're everywhere!).
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I was thinking the same thing!
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I don't have a problem with Peter returning so soon. Peter still has to help them all figure out who he is and their relationship with him. I would bet that it will be another 2 or 3 episodes before they remember which will set up the next act of the season.
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... NO!!!!! Why can't FRINGE have a bajillion fans, just like LOST and Arrested Development and Terra Nova?! I want this show to air forever. Just finished the last episode. I'll probably watch it again, cuz I'm tired-slash-drunk right now, but it was good. I realized how much I love the characters. Oliva is hot. Screw you if you don't think Anna Torv is a babe. Agreed, though, that Josh Jackson is a huge part of the show. If he is indeed back, next week should be extremely funzeeez.
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I know it doesn't have a bajlllion fans. But it's not THAT bad. Seriously. You just have to think of it as the new SeaQuest 2032, not the "new LOST/Jurassic Park hybrid that's gonna blow me away and melt my face off."
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Watched the last two back to back since I missed last week. Both solid one-shot episodes. Nice ending tonight.
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It will be like that "just broke up with the-hottest-girl-that-I'm-ever-gonna-get" feeling. The sick to the stomach, loss of appetite, depression for a week, feeling. The "show up to work 10 minutes late cuz nothing really matters" feeling. PLEASE NO, FOX. AIR THIS SHOW FOREVER. FOR-EVVVEERRRRRRR!!!!!!111one
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These two are THE best actors on television right now. Of course, "right now" strictly means RIGHT NOW. There have been better, there will be more that are just as good. That's the beauty of time. Up until a couple weeks ago, my "BEST PERFORMANCE ON TV" award went to Dylan Baker in Damages. Him and John Goodman just destroyed [the good kind] every scene they were in. Classic, riveting, amazing stuff. Until Cranston just amazed the world in the "Crawl Space" episode of Breaking Bad ... and carried thru until the finale, which solidified S4 of BB as one of my fav seasons of TV of all time. Up there with The Wire, Sopranos, all that. Fantastic writing, acting, cinematography, and editing. Genius all around.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST
Shit, I hope it doesn't get cancelled, I just scheduled a weekly meetup there!
by ToughGuyRizzo
So far, so good. It's been alot of character re-building, but in a good way. So was it Olivia that pulled Peter thru or subject 9? Interesting that Peter emerged where he did.
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That episode was excellent...
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I concur with the talkbacker above, this girl is so damn hot it hurts to watch her sometimes.
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With all the reality crap out there, shows like this are gems in the rough. It amazes me how people who have Nielsen boxes in their homes all seem to be asshole's with no taste at all for good television. How can a retart show like the Kardashians or the Jersey Shore have better ratings then great written shows like Breaking Bad or Fringe?
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Another great performance. Hey Emmy people. Fuck you for ignoring the greatness that is Walter Bishop.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST
Cast talks about what's next...now that Peter's returned!
by Cheif Brody
Some spoilery speculations from the Fringe cast about what to expect now that Pacey showed up swimming in Dawson's Creek. From TV Guide: <p> http://tinyurl.com/676oo2z
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So a few weeks ago September assembled a device in a box that was supposedly going to completely erase Peter for good, but decided to not use it. So now that we know that Subject 9's ability with magnitism was able to erase or kill Peter if Olivia hadn't stopped him, could we also assume that September's device also had to do with magnitism?
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Seriously. John Noble is amazing, the back and forth with him and Jasika is priceless.
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Three episodes in and it's already looking to be an awesome season. I never thought I would be so happy to see Joshua Jackson's face. This show is like a warm bath compared to the cold shower that is Terra Nova. I mean, I'm okay with Terra Nova, and I hate to talk shit about any show that attempts something spectacular, but a fucking dinosaur sci fi show with fucking SPIELBERG attached should be a whole hell of a lot better than that.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST
Glad they didn't drag out the "where's Peter" shit to death...
by Nasty In The Pasty
...like The X-Files did with the "where's Mulder" plotline in seasons eight and nine. Granted, we've got to see how this all plays out (Peter dragged into a new timeline he willingly erased himself from), but I trust these writers, which is something I *never* thought I'd be writing about fucking Akiva Goldsman.
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Well part of the difference is that Mulder was 'missing' because Duchovny had left the show, so there were behind the scenes reasons, where as with Peter going away it is clearly a planned event not to mention that x-files was being dragged out over more seasons then the writers really wanted, where as Fringe's writers probably have to be conscious of the fact that each season could very well be their last, so dragging out Peter's abscence any longer then this would have been risky
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I really liked this episode, it's interesting seeing where this new reality differs from the other ones. I'm definitely in the camp that has always found Peter to be the weakest link on the show, and his abscence the past 4 weeks has only reaffirmed to me how much I don't really care if he's there or not. I'm not sure if its the casting or the writing or both, but Peter just doens't work for me the way Olivia and Walter and Astrid do. Having said that though, I'm looking forward to next week and all the implications of his return, and I think what has saved Peter for me in the later seasons is that he is the lynch pin of a lot of the big plots.
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My understanding is Torv was married to that guy from season1/human target, but they are now divorced, which is probably why he has never made a return appearance.
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worth checking out? I did a quick google check of it and the concept, some interesting cast as well. The only new show this season I've managed to get hooked on is HOMELAND. With Terra Nova I'm waiting until the seasons done to see a) if its worth my time (based on word of mouth) and b) if it gets picked up for a 2nd season, otherwise I won't bother with it With the tv jungle being the way it is these days I don't want to get invested in a good show unless its going to survive for a while. That's why I waited until mid way through season 3 to get onboard with Fringe (but obviously started with the beginning episodes)
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Must tell ya...I haven't missed Pacey one bit, either...But, watching the last coupla of episodes...I think the writers were trying to show us, via Dunham & Astrid, just how big a role Peter has 'behind the scenes' in keeping the "Walter Train" on schedule. The daily grind of dealing with his slight psychosis and idiosyncrasies. We were never privy to just how much it took to keep Walter together so he could be a functional member of the Fringe team...but, we got an EYEFULL the past two weeks watching these two women (and Broyles) having to 'Waltersit' his crazy genius on a daily basis. <p> That said...Walter is a LOT less functional in this new timeline, exactly BECAUSE Peter never exsisted, and therefore hasn't been around to keep him grounded and focused...or getting him to 'try new things'...like, leaving the lab once in a while, for instance. Yet...in a sense...Peter has been trying to help his father all the same from Limbo Land...by trying to trigger the Doctor into taking action to 'heal thyself'. <p> Peter needed Walter out of the lab to help rescue him from non-exsistence. Just as he needed Olive and Subject 9, Cameron James' special assistance. Peter has gifts...he MADE that all happen. He gathered all the 'tools' he needed to become his corporeal self again. <p> I hope the writers will use his special skills a bit more this season...instead of reverting back to his tired role as Walter's babysitter, background investigator and love interest to Dunham. Essentially, the writers have been given the opportunity to hit the "reset" button on Peter's character. <p> I hope they use this new timeline well. <p> I, however, was a lil put off that he came back acting so 'normal'. I was kinda hoping for a 'darker, more brooding' Pacey. Like to see him have an Anakin Skywalker type arc...where he gets to let the 'Evil Peter Bishop' out a bit. But, I'm very pleased the "Dunham/Peter" romance has been put on ice for the time being...and considering baby Henry has also been erased from history, it looks like he may get the opportunity to get a re-do with Fauxlivia, only this time, w/o her being a sneaky impersonator. <p> Which frees up Olivia's dance card for Agent Lincoln Lee, hmmmmm? God, the shippers are gonna have a field day with all the new romance angles brewing. <p> Anyways...welcome back to life, Peter. Now...Earn this.
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Oct. 16, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST
God, first I thoguth I watch "THE ENTITY" - with James Cameron as Director...
by wtriker1701
Then I woke up, and they just had that inside joke, and the episode came out very strong. I loved Peter's return, albeit it was suspected from the get go... The only thing, I guess, that presented a missed opportunity for me was, that Wal2rnate (he's neither Walter nor Walternate...) saw the NOT RECOMMENDED note on the letter. For me it would have worked much better, if Olivia indeed had recommended him to be handed over to the institute. The emotional impact would have been greater and Peter would have had to set things straight for Wal2rnate... now that he's... back... But, this universe doesn't function normal anyway, does it? So are we expected to get back to the... first... Fringe universe sometime? Or will everything stay put until the the end of the season? However - very strong episode!
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Damn typos...
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Holy crap I completely forgot about the baby!
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-I'm thinking the rift between Nina and Walter now exists because after Peter died as a boy, Walter probably blamed Nina for not helping go over and bring him back. -For adult Peter, time may have become irrelevant. He may have left existance at the point he did last season and now reappear in what may be only a few moments for him, but weeks or months for Walter, Olivia, and the gang. -I would imagine they are going to run Peter through a barrage of tests, concluding with a DNA test to prove he is Walter's son. -Very interested to see how the Observer bosses react to Peter's re-existence as a man. At some point, I think a "clash of the observers" type war may break out with Peter playing the role of the demi-god with the assistance of September.
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I'm a fan of Peter, and am glad he's back. He makes Walter more interesting.
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