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So, Perhaps The Musclyness Of That New SUPERMAN Suit Is All Cavill??
Merrick here...
For a few moments I thought Paparazzi had been following around AICN staffers again, then I realized this is just Henry Cavill on the set of Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL.
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really not.
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I really want a good Superman film which is not a film about a bearded loner brooding about his alien diferrences for two hours.
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no, I still say the suit has some padding. Take a look at the pics of him in the suit that show his back. Also his legs are much larger in the suit. Cavills in decent shape, but the suit is padded.
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I'd wear spandex underneath, too.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST
This movie has great potential and will probably be really great.
by Xen11
FACT
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They'll CGI the pants purple later.
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Are you kidding me? Who cares if the suit has padding. Doesn't every suit have padding?
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I would take what he gave me any day of the week. When you're hot, you're hot, doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman. Hurry Henry Cavill, I'm lubed up and ready :)
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I dont care if the suit is padded. Makes no difference to me.Was just addressing the comments in the article.
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Wow.
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What the fuck? ಠ_ಠ
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than most talkbackers have in their whole body.
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Sorry. Still in a bad mood about the Rangers game.
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My wife is gonna' splotch.
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is that a krypton crystal around his neck that'll make fortress of solitude? Also, as big as he is - the suit still enhances his physique..bulk, veins and whatnot
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... I'm guessing he uses a razor laced with trace amounts of Kryptonite, or Jor-el packed him a Kryptonian Philishave as a goodbye present. :)
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'cos he is ripped.
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HAAA! Devils fan! BTW I remember seeing a superman comic book back in the day that showed Clark using a mirror and yes, his lasers to shave. When I attended the cartoon convent, I did a one page that had Superman keeping a small piece of Kryptionite in a led box. He put it in his pocket and went out about his business. Last panels showed him at a barber shop getting his hair cut. He got home, put it back in the lead box and put it in the closet. It was a stupid one page I did, because how does superman cut his hair was something youd hear from time to time. Got a A.
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First I've heard of that....
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Since you're following DC's unfortunate lead when it comes to Superman's costume redesign by losing the red shorts, it's only fair that you... BRING BACK THE CLASSIC GOD DAMNED JOHN WILLIAMS THEME WHICH HAS BECAME AS IMPORTANT TO THE CHARACTER AS THE FUCKING CAPE! Thank you.
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Hate to mention that turd, but even if its Kryptonian its still super small & thin. Did I really just type that . . . ?
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Oct. 14, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST
No movie where Clark sports this look could ever feature the Williams theme
by performingmonkey
This is something different entirely. This is Snyder. Prepare for Supes with a fuckin rock soundtrack!!
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he's going to spend 75% of the movie without powers.
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Told you all.
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You body cast Cavill at his peak after a workout. You make a solid dummy out of the cast. You mold the suit onto the dummy bulges, veins, abs and all. You airbrush in some key places. You peel off the suit and put it on Cavill. Simple.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 8:51 a.m. CST
If his muscles are rated PG-13 this movie is going to suck
by Michael Lunney
And a movie with a strong female lead in Lois, double suck
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The Dude is huge, as many of us thought he probably was after seeing the Immortals trailer. Yeah, his suit may have some padding, just like Routh's did, but it sure looks like it's mostly HIM.
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Albiet not purple.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 8:53 a.m. CST
Where have you folks with the shaving question been? It's been established for years that he shaves by reflecting his heat vision off of a mirror.
by batmancw
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I LIKE the idea of them showing Clark as a real man (he is, after all) so that the contrast as his nerdy, shy Clark facade is apparent. Then, when he's Superman, he's the guy in the photos (AKA: The REAL Kal-El). Assuming that's what they're going for, I like it. What I fear is him acting in any way whatsoever like a posing douchebag. Audience alone can douche a movie up. I don't want every woman talking about how sexy Superman is and for that to effect Superman himself and how he behaves. That part would be very UN-Superman like. We'll see.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST
Jesus fucking Christ how do you idiots not know that superman shaves with his heat vision and a reflective chunk of the space ca
by UltraTron
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And that is fucking gross, dude.
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Superman shaves with his heat vision and a reflective chunk of the space capsule that brought him to earth? Oh yeah. You've never read the comic. You just like pointing and gawking and stuff
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Why would glass be able to accompany him using heat vision? He uses a shard from his spacecraft to reflect his heat vision off of.
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then it came back. How bout a fucking iPad app? Oh you're all macs? Well what fucking good does that do anyone?
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John Byrne explained this back in his Man of Steel reboot for DC. He has a reflective piece of the ship he came to this planet in that he uses to bounce his heat vision onto his face to burn it off. Dunno how Warner Bros. plan to do it.
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By now everyone should be bowing to me. Like superman- I never lie.
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the ability to have jet black hair and yet sport a light brown beard.
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Supes got jacked.
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It's "accommodate", not "accompany". Super sigh. Fail.
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Havent read it in 24 years.. so excuse the hell out of me!!!!
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So this is the way Henry arrives at the set after a late night out with the boys? Where is the work ethic today?
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Oct. 14, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST
Remember that early Byrne Superman story where he grew a beard and became space Hercules?
by rev_skarekroe
That's what he looks like here.
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DC get on that. You have two supes titles, one in the present, one in the beginning of his career, give the older one a distinguished beard.
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His BIC disposables have a kryptonite strip instead of aloe.
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I am cool with that... we really do need Darkseid in a modern Superman movie. He's Superman's biggest and most dangerous foe...Call Paul Dini and Tim Short ... those dudes who work over at the animated studios.... they know how to write Darkseid. @thisbethesdasea --- If you're gay, that's fine... but if you say that you aren't - well, time to come out of the closet because straight dudes don't say things like that. Ever.
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but are we ever going to get a Super"MAN" movie? meaning a guy in his mid 30s to start and end the trilogy in his mid to late 40s? Like many have said before, someone like Jon Hamm would work... a guy with a little life experience on his face would be nice.
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If memory serves Clark Kent has been showed shaving via heat vision at least a couple of times on TV. Once on the old Gerard Christopher Superboy series and once on the animated series in the 1990s. I can't remember if he ever did it on Lois & Clark.
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Wouldn't we then have to be YEARS into the future? Supes doesn't age like humans does he? (I'm hazy on that subject) so if we got your middle-aged Superman it would have to be way on down the road...
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Oct. 14, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST
Mirror--piece of his spacecraft, whatever...the point is that's been part of the "canon" for at least 25 years-- since the Byrne reboot
by batmancw
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Who gives a shit? The Superman film is being taken in the wrong direction to begin with. Join http://www.facebook.com/groups/123957104368429/ and restore order to the shorts.
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Any suit that wants to have muscles that "pop" has padding (and air brushed accents etc.). He looks great though. That might pull in some ladies to the theater.
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How does Superman shave" does not have one definitive answer. It all depends which era of comic story you are referencing, original or revisionist. You might want a better answer than the one you gave, if you are going to get all puffed up and condescending, with a partially correct answer, idiot. Unless you are content with googling one source, or your reference point is only one story arc you read, idiot. IDIOT IS AS IDIOT DOES, MY MOMMA ALWAYS USED TO SAY.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST
a better question might be...how does this guy shave his beard?
by Michael Lunney
http://tinyurl.com/3vn98dx Very carefully, I would presume.
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are people idiots for not possessing immediate recall of a bit of Superman obscura.
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For being shirtless and in good shape as they go back to playing Minecraft while pumping Red Bull and Doritos into their fat asses.
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Arguing about how Superman shaves is just kinda' perfect.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST
Ultratron: In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Superman..say four Our Fathers and you will be forgiven, idiot...
by Michael Lunney
http://tinyurl.com/4xm96b3
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Wonderful, now Superman can run around wet and shirtless... just what I wanted in a Superman flic.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST
Arnie had muscles on his ears, didn't make him a good actor though. Think i'll wait for the movie b4 i judge.
by Arkhaminmate001
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So, to not be gay, you never bathe or take your shirt off? Homophobic logic, presumably.
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Bring on the new Supes movie! I've got great expectations for this film and especially Cavill. I think they picked the right guy, even though I still think Joe Manganiello would have been just as good.
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and then his pants do, too?
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How does he shave his beard? You'd think this would have been dealt with in the decades of Superman comics, movies, TV shows, etc. It's really fucking important and no one knows? Fuck this film.
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New supey movie coming out, gotta look my best...
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST
Leave it to Snyder to finally make Supes a real fucking man.
by knowthyself
Okay seriously thank god no more scrawny superman. I love Reeves but COME ON NOW it's time for Supes to be as pumped as he is in the comics.
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He didn't always have it you know. And why is his suit invulnerable too?
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They did, dummy...Fuck this talkbacker
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST
Hey, to those who are picking on the gay guy just becausr he wants to get ram rod by Cavill
by ray a
don't say gay
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST
i actually wouldnt mind pouring a gallon of ice cold milk down his chest
by ray a
But don't say that I'm gay
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST
The "he's in decent shape" made me spit my tea out!
by Dr. Egon Spengler
Yeah, I'd call that ripped, not "decent". Don't be jealous AICN geeks.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST
Singer did the nostalgia thing..it didn't work people. Let that theme GO.
by knowthyself
We tried it and it didn't save a fucking mediocre movie. I'd rather have a new theme and a better movie that stands on it's own without leaning so much on the Donner film. The guy didn't fucking invent Superman. Let's see a new take on him and let that one go.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST
BTW How come it's release date is almst 2 years away, SFX can't take that long can they? Avatar did but that was like 90% CGI.
by Arkhaminmate001
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Just saying
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Superman starts being Superman at around 25. Otherwise you have to ask the question "Why did he take so long?". To be honest, 25 is pushing it what with superhearing bombarding him every waking moment. So if you want a Superman in his mid 30s to late 40s you are going to have to support the hell out of this movie and it's sequel because no one will start a Superman story from that point. And Jon Hamm doesn't want to be Superman.
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Coming on the heels of Russell Crowe with a beer belly in a Dark Crystal costume, you'll excuse you me for thinking this movie has epic fail written all over it.
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Thumbs up.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST
The more relevant contemporary question for today's grooming obsessed youth is...
by Michael Lunney
Does Superman shave his pubic hair? Gotta look good for the women in his life without being a bushy turnoff....right, kids?
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Dude looks as ripped as Stallone in Rocky IV.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST
I'd also like to point out that Superman could shave his face with his fingernails in like a split second
by JackSlater4
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Oct. 14, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST
"Something wrong with the elevator?" Reeve was the man.
by Arkhaminmate001
I saw a cool fan movie on you tube with a CGI superman with Reeves face, looked really good. i think that now these superhero movies are becoming tired full CGI movies would suit the medium well, the recent D.C. online game trailer proves it i think.
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This explanation was given in the "Official Superman Quizbook" from the '70s, Superman doesn't have to shave or cut his hair because his hair doesn't grow on Earth. It's still the best explanation I've heard. It doesn't make sense with Cavill having a beard and hairy chest in those pics though.
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Say all they want about women on talkbacks and then they're grossed out when a masculine gay man makes an equally raunchy / sexualy remark about another man? Jesus. Grow Up boys, or grow a pair. I'm a man, I like manly men. Nuff said.
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Michael Clarke Duncan is Darkseid. Brief appearance at the end to promote sequel? Or something more?
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That was an amazingly simple explanation....for whoever didn't see Hancock, he just used his fingernails.
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more importantly where are my hands...
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Superman isn't a fucking bodybuilder, that's kinda the point. Chris Reeve have big muscles? Hell no. Neither did Routh. But this is Zack Snyder we're dealing with.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST
I wonder if Lois gets grossed out by the fact that he probably has to chew his toenails
by JackSlater4
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makes life worth living.
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And the comics have been fucking it up for decades. ALIEN PHYSIOLOGY, not that difficult. How the hell are you going to develop big muscles when you can lift a cement truck over your head with one hand? Bench press buildings?
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i wouldn't mind if he broke my legs with his gyrating.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST
Fuck the fact this movie isn't being released for like another 2 years!
by Judge Briggs
That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far away. QQ QQ QQ Too far away!
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Who gives a shit how he shaves? Stupid.
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Never heard the "oh you said 'gay', so that means you are either gay yourself or hate/fear them" line before. Bravo. Here's why these photos, are indeed, gay... as in, homosexual in nature: 1) The movie is written by two men 2) The movie is directed by a man 3) The movie's target audience is MALE 4) They felt the need to shoehorn in topless shots of the MALE lead in the rain. This movie is being made for teenage girls and gay men. That's fine, they deserve movies too... I suppose its been awhile since the last Twilight 'film' came out. It's just a little sad for me to see Superman being twisted into that genre.
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Representing the majority of females i must say..GULP.
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"Chris Reeve have big muscles? Hell no." - You're such an idiot dude. Before assuming Chris Reeve wasn't ripped for Superman - The Movie, of course he was. Chris spent months & months working out before the film. When he was first hired for the role, he was skinny at first and had no muscle. He refused to wear a fake muscled suit, so he went to the gym doing intense weight training for two hours a day, doing trampoline workouts and lots of cardio. He also had a very strict diet with high proteins and all that stuff. On the Blu Ray for "Superman - The Movie", there is footage where it shows Chris Reeve training in the gym. Yes, Chris Reeve trained hard and bulked up for the Superman movies. Do your research before saying stupid things please.
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you nailed it. of course it was john byrne. the image of supes shaving was etched into my nerd psyche.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST
Merrick posted this? Usually Harry's the one to post gay porn on AICN.
by Ricardo
Weird.
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Superman above all is a MAN and as a man he has needs.Is he going to be a mid 30s virgin in the movie and if yes how the fuck has endured his need for fucking all these years? we all know that he cant fuck because his super-sperm would have killed the bitch.So what Superman has done about this matter?
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he is following the monk route.
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unless he works out every 10 mins to keep the muscles taut. yeah i'm such an envious guy.
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Go watch the fucking movie again. Sure he got in shape but he was far from "bulked up" Take your head out of your ass before you go off. >(o)<
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...at all the ass hats screaming about steroids. He is very well built (an additional laugh at the "decent" shape quote). Funny how the insecurities of those who dwell in the basement and rarely exert themselves physically seem to surface as soon as they see any one of millions of people out there in good physical shape. They seem to have a deep need to justify their own woefully poor physical condition by dismissing those who display the opposite with the catch all bullshit of "steroids"--as if they even understood what those drugs do and do not provide. Physical development is earned with a lot of work in the gym -- The dude is an actor--he has nothing else to do but prepare for this role, and has the best trainers and nutrition available to him to do that. I know guys built just as well who definitely do not do steroids and do not have the same advantages an actor preparing for a role would have. They get in the gym and do the work. Stop letting your subconscious, repressed envy spill all over the page, get off your ass, out of the basement and into the gym if you are that jealous. Screaming steroid accusations just makes you sound like a juvenile cunt. Acknowledge someone's work ethic and try to emulate it a bit if it's that important to you. If it isn't, then why the fuck even comment on the topic in the first place?
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST
yeah the "decent shape" comment made me guffaw/spit-take
by dahveed1972
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He looks awesome. Seems to me when it comes to Superman, the only people whining and BITCHING like little fairies are the ones who are saying ridiculous shit like, "I want the red panties!" and "He's not babyfaced enough!", and "Where's his shiny, oily faggy spit-curl?", and "His suit doesn't have enough silky shiny flowing fabrics that match my fucking PANTIES because I'm basically the Christian Siriano of fanboys!!!" GET OVER IT. CHRIS REEVE IS FUCKING DEAD. Move on, you god damned man-children.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST
IM in decent shape (photo pending). That... that's something else entirely.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST
Looks like he's going through a "I don't want to be Superman" crisis
by 3D-Man
Shouldn't they wait for the second film to go that route? Or is this thing gonna be 4 hours long? Actually, I'd be okay with a 4-hour Superman film.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST
And please no Duncan for Darkseid. You're really casting for a voice, so the fact that MCD is big and dark seems irrelevant.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST
A really good actor, for starters. that aint MCD. Im all for typecasting in certain situations, but its not necesary in this case.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST
And actually it would make sense for him to have a full beard until he "comes out" as Superman. Its a more pratical and more plausible disguise than fucking glasses.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST
Isn't Superman supposed to be an alien? Then why does he even has to have a beard?
by AsimovLives
Does every humanoid alien out there also have beards too? Who says that's so? This is the thingthat most bothers me about all the common depcition so Superman, of which this movie seems to follow suit: he's just too damn human, not enough alien, superpowers aside.
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What I am hoping for from this version of Superman, is that the filmmakers go way, way back to his roots, when Superman was a crusader that didn't sit around waiting for shit to happen, he was way more proactive. He also wasn't nearly as powerful though he had just learned to fly; he actually took some beatings back then. I'm primarily thinking of the insanely awesome Fleischer Superman cartoons, the men who bestowed flight upon Kal-el. The comic books are currently trying to do this, but they are missing the mark somewhat. Particularly with Grant Morrison's take (I love Grant Morrison) Kal-el is lacking the humility and maturity that I have come to appreciate about the character and those qualities have been there since the beginning.
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My, aren't you an obsessed homophobe. You wouldn't be the first homophobe to be gay. Enjoy your battle with the true nature of your sexuality.
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Not since Viggo played Aragorn have I thought about following a man to the ends of the earth. Supes is almost making me gay. This gives me higher hopes for this flick.
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You are on the damn money, dude. This movie would seem to be made for gay men and teenage girls, which is fine. While waiting for the Superman movie and the next Twilight they can catch the new Three Musketeers movie. It looks like filmmakers have gayed that up real good too. P.S. Cavill is beyond "in decent shape". He looks phenomenal. He's in a total different universe than an average shlump like me.
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Geez, whoever said that needs beaten considering most who frequent this board are baldheaded blubber butts that haven't seen their cock in years due to their bloated fat gut makes me laugh.
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do you write for AICN comics under a different handle?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwNqVNmqQfY
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST
hey asi, re-read RED SON. Millar explains Kal-El's human appearance at the end.
by dahveed1972
Seriously, though, if they make supes more alien-looking then the entire premise of the character falls apart. Of course it makes no sense that he looks completely human. Or even somewhat human. The same pretty much goes for every star trek show and movie ever made. Only Doctor Who - limited budget be damned! - made an effort to create non-humanoid aliens. And Star Wars i guess.
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Supes knows how to eat!
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Gay men do have the best gaydar, you silly bitches. Your observations on the gayness of Superman confirms this notion.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST
And if you go by the skin tight outfits and perfectly sculpted bodies with bulging muscles and perfect hair, ALL comics are for teh GAYS. Im ok with that. Are you?
by dahveed1972
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The notion is ridiculous, but I do presume you jest.
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Definately has the physique. Of course if we wanted someone looking like comic book supes we'd need a Mr Olympia contender.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST
Why is Superman Ripped? There's no resistance on Earth
by Domi'sInnerChild
He should be a super strong fat blob. When are his muscles ever really pushed? Even if he has the will power not to over eat, he should be at least all atrophied like astronauts out in space too long.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
Anyone else see this little Voltron short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g6QJ5TfA7w&feature=player_embedded#!
by Squinty CGI Flynn
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Oct. 14, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST
asimovlives, well if he's alien, why would Superman look human at all?
by Mattman
It's funny the way he just perfectly blends with our species. Something that has always amused me about Star Trek is the way the aliens are just slight variations of humans.
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Are the one's going out of their way to point out things that are "gay". It's funny most people who are comfortable with their sexuality are not in the closet. It's the one's who call things "gay" or talk about how not manly something is are the one's in the closet. Sorry guys I assume the one's doing this our like 15 or 16... If not... That's sad just come out already... No one is buying it no matter how many times you call something "gay". Anyway I'm pumped for this Superman because he actually looks tough as shit. Like super villains would and should second guess trying to take this mother fucker down. Good stuff.
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This movie will blow bigger chunks than Cavill's muscles.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST
If this film reminds me for one second of the atrocity...
by cameron1975willi
...that is the Smallville tv show, then it is a fail.
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Is the fact that this dude is going to be a short Superman. Love the beard. Dude looks tough as nails. But he's too short.
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Umm... what? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/a/a4/Superman204.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_p7xbDBFqLSg/S-wuVXFkPcI/AAAAAAAAAJg/RQ_IzvLduVo/s1600/superman_prime.jpg http://www.berlinwallpaper.com/PrissPrints/images/Stickups/Superman_figure.jpg http://www.supermansupersite.com/i-standee.jpg http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DC_Superman_1024x768.jpg The entire point of Superman is that he's SUPER. He's supposed to be someone at the peak of his physical condition, because of his Kryptonian DNA. If anything, Cavill's still small compared to the comic book iteration of Superman. You'd have to cast someone with a physique like The Rock's, or at least Chris Hemsworth's (although Hemsworth's taller than The Rock, but not as bulky), but that would make the character a bit too cartoony and implausible... having someone with a bodybuilder's physique play a seemingly mild mannered reporter. So from that aspect, Cavill looks good for a live action version of Supes.
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Hugh Jackman is too tall to be Wolverine...WAHHHHHH...Heath Ledger as Joker? WAAAHHHH...god damn you nit picky guys don't know shit about casting.
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I am of completely average build, and I usually feel good about that... until I see some jerk like this flashin' his shit all over the place. What the hell does he do? Like, WORK OUT or something? Working out sucks, I'm not doing that shit. Its interesting to think about how close he was to being Nolan's Batman. If this "Superman" film never came along, I assume Cavill would've taken over the cowl from Bale in the next film. Now, I'm not really sure who they'd be looking at to take over the role... Matt Bomer, maybe? Wasn't he up for Superman? That way you could have a Batman finalist playing Supes and a Superman finalist playing Bats. Heh.
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The Incredible Hulk by the looks of his pants.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST
yeah they did a study. gay men and women have the best gaydar.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST
@bruce of all trades: Superman may be SUPER, but being so came from being an alien and not necessarily his muscles.
by cookepuss
I'm a comic geek too. Superman wasn't always the steroid case he is now. For a good long while, he was much more barrel chested. He was built like a guy who probably worked a lot on a farm, but didn't actively hit the gym. That's what made it so much more plausible that he could pull of the dual identity thing. Frank Quitely's All-Star version did it best. Superman was this upright statue of a man, carved from a single block and built like a wall. Clark, was this large hillbilly landmass of a man whose posture and composure alone made him the physical antithesis to Superman. I'm willing to believe that this guy could play the unmovable alien, but have a hard time believing that he could ever be the simple tractor loving farm boy. I'm just not buying it. There's nothing he can really do, physically to convince me, that he could be Clark.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST
ok i just saw some set pics. Lois Lane is a blonde now? Now i feel like a hypocrite, cuz that kinda sucks.
by dahveed1972
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Oct. 14, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST
@cameron1975willi: Smallville differed in that Welling could convincingly pull off the different aspects of the character.
by cookepuss
I could believe that he could be the humble, ableit clueless, country boy. I could believe that he could put on the "mask" of the glasses wearing bumbling reporter. I could even buy that there was this 3rd heroic personality that carried the weight of the world on his shoulders, yet inspired people. Welling's a fairly lousy actor, but he was actually pretty good at what he did on that show. He grew into the role and made it uniquely his. That's why there was a vocal audience that wanted him cast instead of Cavill. He's not Sparta ripped, but he's as physically fit and built for the role as Reeve ever was. I know that a lot of you don't agree, but that's my take.
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She was always written more in the style of the pre-Crisis version of Lois and that always annoyed me since I didn't fully appreciate the Superman comics until the post-Crisis revamp. By that time, Kidder's performance just felt out of sync and always threw me off. She always came across as more nosy, accident prone, and even boozy than the later versions ever did. Plus, with the exception of her brief appearance in III, she was by and large kinda fugly.
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Let's judge the movie when we see it... an having michael clark duncan as darkseid is a fucking WIN!!!! We always asked for a heavy hitter who's a villan and we finally get our shot and people are still not happy! wtf! I just wanna see a solid cameo with christan bale (batman) meeting clark and seeding the justice league... That would make me smile!!!
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Oct. 14, 2011, 3 p.m. CST
People at AICN still complain about us geeks/nerds nitpicking and bitching?
by Dr. Egon Spengler
Get with it, buddy! That's what we do around here! And complaining about it won't change anything, in fact, it's just going to make us do it even more because we know it annoys you.
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LOL. So Grendel, I assume you look like Schwarzenegger when he was body building? Awesome man. So I assume you work out 4 hours a day and eat salmon and brown rice 9 times a day and don't smoke, drink alcohol, or ingest sugar. Wicked! Good for you. Cavill is barely even buff, I mean even Pauly Shore could work out...
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No, I don't. I haven't read a comic in years. I should, though.. I used to enjoy them back in the day. Why though? Is there some writer in that column who has my graceful, understated style of composition?
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Shit's blurry. Nevermind, I just Googled it. It does say Alaska. Superman's banging Sarah Palin. FACT!!!
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Oct. 14, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
Shredded pants? Is this a still from SUPERMAN or THE HULK?
by planetran_fan
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The more I like the casting choice. Even when he's wandering around between takes he carries the same stern expression of confidence and purpose that Reeve had, and Routh did not.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST
This movie can LOOK like Superman til the cows come home
by Billy_D_Williams
but Zack fucking Snyder is still directing, meaning, it will be shit
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He could simply use self resistance. It worked for Charles Atlas...
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...but the thigh and leg padding changes his proportions to that of a bodybuilder. Dumasses!
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Oct. 14, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST
So, Lois Lane is a fucking ginger in this? No! Lois Lane is brunette. That's it!...Fucker
by AzulTool
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Snyder has never made anything I've liked (and stopped seeing his stuff after watchmen)
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... Actually not by John Williams ... Been in use since the radio serials.
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but should have worked harder on the legs.
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working hard on your mother. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND, FUCKBUTT.
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Were specifically addressed by Byrne in the 1985 (or 86) Man of Steel reboot, which de-powered Superman after he reached planet-smashing levels in the silver age. i.e. he shaves with his heat vision, and his suit is not invulnerable, but protected by the force field that is the main reason Superman's invulverable. In other words it's not just his cells that are super-tough, but his whole body has sort of a protective membrane of super-willpower-force or whatevs protecting it. This is why the cape always gets shredded while the bodysuit stays whole. Byrne also made a lot of Superman's powers willpower-dependent.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
Henry is gorgeous! Who cares about Lois, Henry is the one. We could get married in the UK!
by Mag
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There's a justification for why many sentient alien lifeforms in St are humanoid. all humanoid spieces, including humans, are dscended from an original race that existed million of years before. This was pointed out in TNG, i believe, but evne the TOS makes a point to this, when Spock and Bones have a conversation about the fantastic similaritude between the different humanoid intelligent speices. This is the reason found in the show to why it's possible for this supposed diferent speices to be able to mate with one another and create mixed breeds like Spock himself. I don't have a problem with Superman being a humanoid alien. i personally believethat in this vast univers,e evne in our own galaxy, there must exist some spieces out rthere inhabiting a differnt world around a different star whose evolution followed a path in which a similair solution to our own humanoid physionomy was found optimal to the survival of that spieces. My problem with Superman is not that he's humanoid looking, but that he's a full out human with added superpowers. Basically, he's a strawman alien. That always bothered me.
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I remember Red Son quite well. In fact, that's the only Superman comic i know so far which actually made a good deal of sense why Superman would be as he is, and why his human-likeness is so damn human.
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Oct. 14, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST
Does he also do his back, sack and crack with the space capsule chunk and heat vision?
by highfunctioningsociopath
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WEll, both Snyder and the Smallville TV show are both found of that type of speed-ram CGI assisted bullshit shots that they love so much. so, i'm afraid you are not going to be all too happy about this movie. Also, of cours,e Snyder's love for syrup melodrama bullshit, another important element of Smallville.
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As someone noted above, since they took the body suit casting FROM Cavill's body, it obviously owes a lot TO him. But at the same time, that's simply so it fits good and snug -- at which point, as others have noted, they clearly did pad a few things (like the legs and shoulders) here and there to sort of tweak the overall shape, to make him look very SUPER like. Personally, I think Cavill is going to have just the right look for this thing -- I think he's going to be great in fact -- though I hate that they're using the fucking lame costume from the new DC relaunch, where they tossed away the red shorts. They were always a visual element to help break up the overall look of the costume, and they should have kept them. That said, the weak link in this thing is still going to be Snyder. Sorry, but I thought 300 was WAY overrated -- and whatever was good about it was due to (1) its slavish dedication to Frank Miller's vision, which means had it NOT been for Miller's strong vision the movie would have sucked and (2) Gerard Butler's over the top performance ("This is Spartaaaaaaa!") And the same was true of WATCHMEN. Whatever good there was about that film was due to either (1) an actor fitting their role to an acceptable level, so basically they deserve the credit for doing their job. Or (2) whatever good there was -- quite frankly -- was pimped DIRECTLY from the comic, right down to stealing actual fucking panels for scene staging. So once again it was only serviceable because Snyder was being overly slavish to the source material. Which showed no real vision on his part, since creatively he was phoning it in. Which brings us to SUCKER PUNCH which was his vision and which was -- without question -- one of the BIGGEST PIECES OF SHIT that I've ever had to suffer through. Holy crap was that thing horrible. How you fuck up a movie that is completely centered on uber hot babes is beyond me. Hell, in true hack-like wonder, Snyder even managed to make a movie about hot babes and not even make them hot. Ultimately, they were boring as hell and you never gave two craps about them. So when it comes to MAN OF STEEL, sure, I'll keep my fingers crossed. But if this movie's storyline is likewise following the DC relaunch of making Clark/Superman a whiny moody emo bitch -- and if Snyder follows his slavish template nature -- then sadly this thing will be another misfire. And it will suck even more than Singer's film. At which point the only difference will be that maybe...HOPEFULLY...we'll at least get a few good SFX action sequences of Superman actually being SUPER for a change -- see some large scale action for once -- which is where Singer really dropped the ball by having less than spectacular sequences.
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That means you never saw SUCKER PUNCH. You have no idea how lucky you are. Keep it that way, don't do the same mistake i did.
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I agree with you on Welling (although I think he is a good actor beyond just Smallville). Welling got the character right, as did the writers. They incorporated a lot of the Superman mythos into the series. Great storytelling with a terrific cast and solid special effects (on a tv budget to boot!) Hopefully this Superman movie will have a good story to tell. Christopher Reeve was in incredible shape and was a perfect match for Superman, but most importantly he was the embodiment of the character through his skill as a great actor. And the first two Superman movies (especially the Donner cut of 2) were great films.
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What is with that effin' beard? I'm already not pleased due to them jettisoning arguably the most famous costume in comics history.
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The guy in Superman Returns looked too young and had too much of a baby face for the part. Superman IMO is supposed to look around 35 (which, unfortunately, presents problems when you want to have a sequel franchise for 10 plus years — the actor ages, and people laugh....maybe a planned trilogy spanning six or so years can solve that problem). Brandon Routh could have stilled played a high school student when he did Superman Returns....of course, Christopher Reeve looked EXACTLY like Superman does in the comic book......especially in Superman III.
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I don't understand the Not Sold on This comments! These are literally just pictures! There has been no trailer or footage, therefor nothing to be Sold On. We could be talking about Gone with the Wind here and there would be someone who just says "Overrated"! Scum bags
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That was my all-time favorite TV show growing up as a kid in the '50s. I have also enjoyed the Fleischer cartoons, the first two Christopher Reeve films (and the Donnerverse they created), Lois and Clark, Superman Returns and Smallville. I also really like what Christopher Nolan did with his Batman reboot and am consequently really hopeful about the new Superman movie. The only film by Snyder I've seen is Watchmen which was alright - but I'm hoping that Nolan is heavily involved with the new movie. There have been many different takes on the character over the years and I'm ready to see a new one. But I also agree with some of the earlier posts that there needs to be some first class - even ground breaking action sequences for the movie to be a big success.
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and beefy exterior in general remind me of me, and just how awseome and beefy I look as a soup kitchen hobo
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The Kryptonians are just a Lost Tribe of Israel.
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Your writing resembles one of those guys. Anyhow, don't read any current comics other than stuff by Brubaker or Warren Ellis. Superhero comics, at least, have returned to a bit of a slump after a return to form at the very end of the 90's mid 2000's.
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Couldn't it just grow back fast if it got burned up in flight or in a fight with a super villain?
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That's hysterical! So kryptonians are mormons, then? It kinda makes sense, in a very deranged way.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST
Smallville got tyhe character of superman man right? As an anoying emo whinner fuck? That's what superman is suposed to be?
by AsimovLives
If Smallville's superman is what the character is supposed to be like, then i say with all emphasis i can muster: FUCK SUPERMAN UP HIS FUCKING ASS! Fuck him! Fuck that fucking cunt-ass piece of shit fuck!
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Oct. 15, 2011, 4:30 a.m. CST
this movie is gonna make Asimov squirm and cry like a little girl
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
because he'll have to admit it's actually very good!
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I'm sure hoping so, trying to stay optimistic. Hopefully Nolan's involvement will correct some of Snyder's more negative storytelling tendencies. C'mon boys, get this one right. It's Superman - done properly, the coolest and most exciting superhero of them all. A great film could really open up the world's eyes as to what a great character Superman can be.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST
winona_ryders_pussy_juice, i can't fuckign wait for when you fall to your knees cursing God for Snyder's fucking up of this movie.
by AsimovLives
But then again, you are predisposed to love shitty movies, anyway. I still have hopes you one day will have a cinematic revelation and realise you have been supporting worthless movies and filmmakers.
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Oct. 15, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST
A Superman movie from the director of Sucker Punch... Jesus Christ!!!
by AsimovLives
Yeah, this will work... NOT!
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http://www.capedwonder.com/images/picture-folder/images/sIII/Superman_fence1.jpg
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he has A LOT riding on this after Sucker Punch and Watchmen. I think he'd have a very difficult time being first in line to helm something this big if this Superman suffers from the same pointless excess as his previous efforts. So he MIGHT... just MIGHT... be doing some inward searching for ways to rein himself in a bit, and show more care for story and character (making us actually GIVE a shit, in other words), rather than relying on all the usual tricks. Kind of the way Aronofsky did with The Wrestler... he figured out that that story would work better without all of his visual calisthenics, and so he shot it in an almost documentary style, kind of back to storytelling basics.
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Supposedly Cavill was auditioned in a Reeve-style suit because anybody who can pull that off is Superman. Of course then think they have to "improve" the suit. Reeve had to put on a lot of weight to play Superman but he did it and nobody can possibly look better than he did in the role. That's why they keep changing the suit so direct comparisons are harder. Other actors can be and have been Superman but they have to approach it differently. Christopher Reeve shirtless at his normal weight: http://gallery.superherofan.net/C/Christopher-Reeve/christopher-reeve01.jpg
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MWA MWA MWAHAHAHAHA MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Oct. 15, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST
Can we PLEASE stop putting Tom Welling and Superman in the same sentence.
by UltimaRex
Thank you. You'd have thought everyone got the hint after that series finale.
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damn is 1983 THAT long ago?! i can easily remember going to see stuff like S III, Jedi and Never Say Never Again and right when i was watching Superman III in the cinema Cavill will have been pooping into nappies....yet hes now a ripped Superman, Reeve and Pryor are dead and im writing about it on an internet movie message board wow
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Oct. 15, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST
i think Smallville (the tv show) poured a bucket of ice cold water over the flames of anticipation for a new superman movie
by CARTMANEZ
Superman Returns didnt have that much of a big opening (50m)....really a new superman film coming out 20 years after the last one shouldve had a good 70-80m opening (and then dropped off Hulk style) at least MOS will be coming out a couple of years after SV has ended so maybe it might do ok...
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Oct. 15, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST
y'know, since im the only one around about now i may as well talk some more....MOS is coming out nearly 30 years to the day of Superman IIIs release
by CARTMANEZ
MOS = 17 June 2013 SIII = 14 June 1983
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I wonder who'll be wearing the cape when the centenary rolls around...
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Oct. 15, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST
for Superman IIIs anniversary Hot Toys should do a limited edition run of the evil Reeve Superman
by CARTMANEZ
id have to seriously consider buying an evil Superman complete with accessories of fake crystaline kryptonite, whiskey bottle/glass, peanut bowl with peanuts, flick finger hand, crushed Clark Kent glasses, car bumper club and a scrapyard background
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Oct. 15, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST
oh and not forgetting a Hottoys limited edition Gus Gorman
by CARTMANEZ
with oversized cowboy hat, skis, pink tablecloth, yo yo, and a suitcase full of booze maybe they could have that one talk with classic phrases such as: "I don't want to go to jail because there are robbers and rapists and rapists who rape robbers." "What the hell he ain't gonna smoke it" "Superman's bad!!" "Hey, man!" "I just don't believe a man can fly" "I can't ski! "Theres vodka in it now buddy!" "Both keys...at the same time?!" "Yoooou knnnnow how they're always trying to find the secret recipe in that chicken in a bucket? And nobody seems to know the ingredient because it's unknown, right? Well, in the kryptonite there was an unknown element and its unknown and Superman didn't die"
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Oct. 15, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST
Knowing that he is built liek this makes a little bit of fakery in the suit less troublesome.
by kevred
Of course, it also means there's not much reason for *any* fakery, but it also means that the guy playing him is legit, not just an SFX phony. He looks more like Superman with every new set of images we see. That doesn't mean the film will be any good - Reeve looked exactly like Superman should in Superman IV - but taken on its own, it's promising.
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And yes Smallville got the character right. It was a BRILLIANT take on Superman. And I loved the Reeve portrayal and the Lois And Clark portrayal and the TONS of Superman comics I've read. Yes I am a fan. I hope this movie is good.
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Great!!
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That's all that matters. The director (can't think of his name) is great with action and visuals. His problem is having a good story. If the script is good I have no doubt this will be a great movie. They have the advantage of knowing what not to do by having Superman Returns as an example too. Make a violent action movie, not a soap opera.
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I don't think this is superman at all ... but is instead superman's son. You know ... the one we are introduced to in Superman Returns. That way, he wouldn't need heat ray reflector shavers at all ... he could just use an ordinary BIC cuz he'd have ordinary hair. He is, after all, part human... part kryptonian ... genetically speaking. If this is the case ... great vessel for storytelling. No more ultra-indestructable man who's only achilles heel is kryptonite. Now, he can step into a bad-ass fight BUT possibly take some damage. The father becomes the son ... and the son becomes the father. The writing is on the wall people.
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It's still a director's medium. But it also depends on many execs get there hands in the soup too. With an expensive movie like this if they are not careful the wrong people can start stirring the soup and you end of giving Superman a kid, dumb Supes down so he leaves Earth ,without testifying against Lex Luthor, to see if there are any survivors from his home planet that his father told him had exploded but because some Earth scientists with technology a hundred years or so behind krypton's thought there might be some remains. You know basically forgetting everything he learned in Superman the Movie which RETURNS was a sequal to. Whew! Anywho. I hope this movie is good.
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Of course this will suck. Snyder's a complete cockbag.
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Oct. 16, 2011, 6:06 a.m. CST
Superman is may not be gay, but it hasn't stopped WB, Goyer, Nolan and Znyder gang raping him...
by AllThosePowers
...superman is being royally fucked
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Oct. 16, 2011, 6:35 a.m. CST
this TB is now dedicated to the masterpiece that is - Superman III
by CARTMANEZ
that is all
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by boycotting MOS and staying at home to watch Superman III instead!
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Talk about shitting on it's own franchise.
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Oct. 16, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST
by killik: "But Asi it was Nolan who hired Snyder to make this movie." Tell me about it!
by AsimovLives
To this day my bewilderment is complete. And i have not minced words on the subject sinc ethe first day i heard the news. Even a fan of Nolan like me thinks he royally fucked up. Nolan fucked up. What a fuck up! Yeah, even i have to laugh with you about that one. It is hysterical!
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Oct. 16, 2011, 6:45 a.m. CST
ultimarex - I wonder who'll be wearing the cape when the centenary rolls around...
by CARTMANEZ
i have a strong suspicion that when the CG is pitch perfect we'll get to see C Reeve as Superman once again in some kind of ultra realistic anime on you tube etc...same goes for more star trek with TOS cast, Star Wars, Indy, Terminator etc
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Superman III is awesome and i much prefer it to the fake superman III - Superman Returns
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Superman III is a pretty bad film - they turned Superman into a straight man for Pryors comedy schtick and the took the opportunity of a Lex Luthor-less film to create a compelling new villain in the shape of a character who was almost exactly the same as Lex Luthor who just looked a lot less like Gene Hackman and a lot more like Robert Vaughan. Sure it has some nice ideas - the twin Superman fight in the junkyard etc but on the whole when your main character is ignored for large chunks of the film in order to show some unrelated comedy nonsense then you really are not making a good Superman film - you're making an average Richard Pryor film that Superman happens to turn up in. If Superman III had been made in 1951 it would have been called Abbott and Costello meet Superman. Sorry - I dislike the film intensely. As to humanoid aliens - well, evolution is pretty universal and if you are on a planet that is pretty much the same structurally as Earth then there's a pretty strong chance that you'll end up with a dominant species that looks alomost exactly the same as humans.
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only takes him a second or two then he's baby-faced for at least a week
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Pink... And you're a natural ginge.
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Well, the cold-breath-freeze a lake and drop it on fire thing was sorta cool. Annette O'Toole's ice cubed nips in a tight turtleneck were awesome. But that's about it.
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Oct. 16, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST
Since this is by far the gayest talkback going...Spock is gay. Discuss.
by Cheif Brody
Zach Quinto came out today with his phaser set to "FABULOUS"!
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Oct. 17, 2011, 1:36 a.m. CST
Yeah, Snyder seems to like manly men, lots of manly men...
by Onin Solstice
.....just sayin'
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