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Danny Boyle's Next film to be about the Modern Manchester Music Scene'
Wow... So let's get this straight... Danny Boyle and Paul Thomas Anderson are both interested in doing for their next films.... Movies that are strongly set within the musical universe. Cool. Well, this news will inevitably cause ol Reni/Nick to begin screaming like a deflowered high school virgin male with glee down in TALK BACK below. Here's the scoop..
Just finished the yahoo chat with Danny Boyle which was particularly boring with the conversation soon going from Leo and the beach to the view from his window. One interesting piece of info did crop up though when he was asked what his next project would be.He answered that he would very much to do a fil m about the British music industry , particularly aboput Manchester which has spawned great British acts like the Stone Roses, Happy Moandays and Oasis. Boyle expressed an interest in Manchester because he said it was his home town.
Just statin the facts dude
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I could never get into the whole manchester thing - maybe I wasn't cool enough - or maybe it was the fact that half of the bands looked like braindead fuckwits - who knows.......
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Goddamn it Boyle's beaten me to it... Manchester you fools! I've been telling people for years that we needed a film about the music made in this place... Now he must speak to me immediately about compiling the soundtrack - Sugar Spun Sister and I am the Ressurection need a full play - jesus I'm over the moon!!!! Thanks Harry - I told you I wasn't crazy!!!
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Yeah a lot of crap came out of it but the Roses still made the best debut album of all time - sold 2 million copies last year - not bad for 10 year old independant...
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Good point Reni - well I have to admit the music was pretty funky in places and there must be a ton of interesting and amusing subject matter to make an entertaining movie there - ciao........
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Feb 04, 2000 5:47:37 AM CST
24 Hour Party People Plastic Face Can't Smile The White Out
by meat takeshi
Foookin top one, nice, mad for it. Some of the best music of the last two decades has come out of Manchester. An i'm not talkin about fookin Oasis shite. I'm talkin The Mondays, The Roses, New Order, fookin' Joy Division. Superb news.Harry you've twisted my melon, you know you talk so hip man. Call the Cops, wheres me Joe Bloggs gear, Madchester (so Much to Answer For).
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An unknown Band driving a beat up old Jag like bastards through Manchester with Led Zep 2 blaring out, about to record their debut classic... oh my god, no way can I work today...
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Just for the record the best music I have heard out of Manchester would have to be "The Chameleons" but there not exactly in the same category as "Happy Mondays" etc. "Is this the stuff dreams are made of?"
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Man check out Bez's biography "Freaky Dancin" that would make a super film, honestly, the books far better than it has any right to be. So funny, all the stuff about nicking from the local Golf Club, living in his mates Moms shed because he was too embarressed to bring his stolen gear in her house. So many gems in there
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And while the band are thrashing the Jag round Town we meet up with the young girl who's been following the band since the International 2 gigs and will become the inspiration for Sally Cinnamon... and the flick could be about the scene and some amazing band that never quite make it, seen through the eyes of this young girl...
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Another great band, my friend...
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I never heard of any of these bands. I'm still listening to Elton John (pre-1980), Beatles, Rod Stewart, and the Eagles. But hey, aren't the Bee Gees from Manchester? Now that's my kind of music.
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Bee Gees lived in Chorlton which was also home for Ian Brown when the Roses' story first kicked off... Meat Takeshi mentioned Joy Division and again another great band... some many roads in this Town lead to back to great music... I'll dedicate this talkback to Ian Curtis and The Bee Gees.
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thought I'd better start the rumour-mill going. One prediction can be confidently based on the assumption that rock 'n' roll films are crap.
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Danny Boyle! It
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Ah The Smiths - not my bag but 'How Soon Is Now' has to be a part of the soundtrack - yeah Ch4 did a drama series called How To Be A RockStar and it was a bit naff really.
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Please don't use John Simm for the film. It'll destroy me.
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Hmmm - Danny Boyle already made the ultimate music movie of the 90'ies. For me, "Trainspotting" wasn't really about drugs or about scotland - it was about the british punk/indie/NME culture - and it worked incredibly well! I'm not sure he'll be able to make a real manchester bio-pic work. Some of the greatest bands ever are from that town - Joy Division, Smiths, Stone Roses, Oasis - but they weren't really part of the same scene and they were from different decades, so you won't be able to fit them into the same movie. I hope it will be great, but part of me keep thinking of Ewan McGregor with a Liam Gallagher/Ian Brown wig fronting a band of second rate brit pop musicians - and playing bad cover versions of classic manchester rock. No, I don't think it would work!! If Boyle wants to make a movie about music he should get a hand held camera and go out and do a documentary about the cool contemporary Glasgow scene. (Note: Im not from Glasgow or Manchester - I'm form Denmark)
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No you're right - Don't make the film about some real band, make it about the scene, make it like 'Saturday Night Sunday Morning' and Rita Tushingham can play Sally Cinnamon's mum.
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Come on. There IS no Manchester scene and never was. The whole thing was made up by the music press to hype a bunch of completely different bands who happened to have been raised in the same square mile of Manchester. The Fall, The Smiths, Happy Mondays, New Order, Oasis - is there really a musical style or social culture linking these bands? Danny Boyle has lost his nack of making hip films and a trip down memory lane ain't gonna help. I can't think of anything more boring than this, to be honest.
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I don't know... The Roses were one of the only bands I've ever heard that created a scene all by themselves... Madchester was a name handed out by London Tabloids. Alright with hindsight it wasn't the great cultural revolution, and it probably sounds amazingly contrived now, but there was a big buzz about the place during '88-'90. There wasn't anything like before and certainly nothing since. Just a shame it couldn't last longer. There is a big relevant film waiting to made out of this - all the politics of Full Monty, Mike Liegh, Maggie Thatcher, Ian Curtis, Baby Gangsters, Acid House, E's, pyschedelics, Illegal Raves and music all coming together. I'm not talking Romeo and Juliet(1995) or Absolute Beginners, I'm talking about making something really special. As long as they do it right, it won't matter where you're from, you're gonna love it...
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She can tell Danny all about the origins of the song "Flesh is burning, nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh..."
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Yeah right. A truly interesting British music phenomenon is the so called "brixton sound," or "trip-hop." Artists like Portishead and Massive Attack (which, by the way, has had songs of theirs used in three *major* motion pictures in the last couple of years and didn't get soundtrack placement - do you know which ones? - Pi doesn't count) are much more interesting, creative, and inventive than the rip-off artists from Manchester. the Beatles sucked then, and their predecessors suck now. BETH GIBBONS IS A GODDESS.
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I hate goths, but I love Joy Division... you have to respect a man who kills himself by tying piano wire around his neck and the rafters of his doss, then stands on a huge block of ice - AND WAITS FOR IT TO MELT. Yeah I know that's not what history says happened, but isn't it a kick ass story?
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Brixton Sound??? Where's all the love in Brixton Sound?
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I don't know what the current cool "scene" is, but me thinks a cool movie would one about Sublime's lead singer Bradley Noel and the Orange County punk/ska/reggae scene. Bradley's musical career and eventual heroin overdose would make for a kickass slice of life film.
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Hmm... Brixton sure is a fun place, but the two bands you mentioned are from Bristol... trip-hop was often referred to as "the Bristol sound" back when journalists had yet to realise that everyone in Bristol is simply into screaming house. Never mind! Massive Attack are the band of the 90's however, so good call ;-)
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Why is everyone always banging on about Manchester? We all know the city with all the real talent lies a few miles in Merseyside...yes thats right the one and only mighty Liverpool, why not make a movie about a real music city, and for that matter a real football city. Has anyone posting on this message board actually been to Manchester? music scene: wank, football team: wank....All you Mancs can go and peel you own swollen red lives and scrub your own underbums with a knitting needle and vinegar by crikey!! And to all you Americans who think you know anything about the British Music scene - your being lied to, don't believe the hype, forget wankchester and go and visit Liverpool where all the real music in England comes from, stop buying their music and supporting their shite football team and slavering over the prospect of a movie all about the most hyped city in music history. It only gives them an excuse to keep churning out
shite like Oasis 'y'know that they are the next Beatles'....Fuck Wads
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Ian Curtis hung himself. He was a complex bugger, a young working class man who voted Tory/Thatcher and read Rimbaud. Sorry but there's nothing clever or repsectful about a suicide. You're right about Joy Division though, an enigma alright, the Anton Corbjn photo's are amazing. But Brixton Sound doesn't compare to what's gone on in Manchester. Sorry. Loads of people will tell you that.
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Hmm, that made me giggle, Portishead is actually a small town just outside of Bristol, hence the name. As for screaming house in Bristol, my god no. Check Cosies, Blue Mountain, the stuff coming off the cup of tea label, the Hope label, erm Full Cycle anyone. House is for the thousands of students. A film on the bristol music scene, hmm if you want a movie of lots of people caned on skunk, sat round, going to the garage for choclate and skins. reet me babbers, she be gert lush, cheers drive, tee hee hee. oh yeah. Why does Roni Size get lost all the time?
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Cos the Jungle is Massive. Thank you and goodnight, i am available for weddings, birthdays.....
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Go to Liverpool - but don't leave your car there...
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...bcause anyone who looks at the soundtracks for Danny Boyle's films can tell it's what he has wanted to do all along. I personally think he should just do the story of Joy Division/NewOrder, because depression, suicide, drug abuse, in-fighting, in-fucking, and portraits of the artists as severely fucked-up young men are the stuff that drama is made of. The Morrissey/Smiths story would also be interesting, but it would never get the cooperation of both sides and would therefore fail. It is very nice to see that some of you guys have such wonderful music taste...makes me happy. Oh, and to all who have mentioned Massive Attack...truly a place is reserved for you above.
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Hmm, you scousers really do have a major chip on your shoulder. yes Liverpool has graced us with some superb music, but in the last twenty years. Not really i'm afraid, The Farm... not very good, The La's couple of tunes, Cast hmm The La's again. Sonia now she was a top Liverpool entertainer. Not really the stuff of legend. I hate Man Utd the same as everyother self respecting football fan. Oh yeah, i'm not from Manchester but have enjoyed many very good nights out there. The point your missing is that the whole manchester scene was so indicative of the times in this country, the largest cultural revolution in twenty odd years. Thats why a film would be fascinating, keep your small minded regional inadequacies to yourself. oh yeah, by the way, before retaliation comes i'm not from Manchester and have no bias at all. Ps why do all scousers go on about how good Liverpool is and yet none of them ever live there?
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...couldn't you just see Wes Bentley in the role? Or maybe Joaquin Phoenix? They've got that eyes-half-open thing DOWN. Work on the accents and call your agents, fellas...
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my feet are beginning to fizz like an orphans face.....bark..what's wrong with you people.
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Thanks for putting up with all my bullshit today - I love this music a bit too much - Meat Takeshi, bless you brother for your help and support. To everyone else, your assignment this weekend is listen to The Stone Roses album (No Farm records please!). Maybe a little Joy Division for After Hours...
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yo,yo,....ugh....yo...yo.....ugh...yo, yo.....yeah..ugh....no doubt...yeah.. ugh, ugh..NO..yo yo yo mc meat takeshi..yo..featuring total turntable control at speeds up to and including 78rpm, the speed at which, strangely enough, the EC butter mountain would shift towards the third world if it were mounted on a single pivot.
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Cryptopsy slams all these cheese bands into bloody submission...oasis, fucking burn those egotistical lame ass pop no talent geeks. cheers to that toronto based canadian power trio...hang in there neil...
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Feb 04, 2000 4:29:01 PM CST
Whoever said that Boyle deserves a kick in the pants for Trainsp
by darius25
FUCKING INSANE !!!!!! Seriously, how can anyone hate the music. I am listening to as I type. TRAINSPOTTING FUCKING RULES IN EVERY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I hope that EWAN MCGREGOR is in this. Whether or not The Beach is a good movie (I heard it sucks), it would have been a million times better if Ewan is in it. Message to Danny Boyle - Screw Leo (even if he is a GOOD actor) and bring back McGregor. Eye of the Beholder was GOOD because of him, Ep.1 was decent because of him, even Emma was good because of him.
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I agree that the problem with doing thisManchester thing is that you have several different time period...the "Early days" with Smiths, Joy Division/New Order, etc., then the "Party people" of Stone Roses & Happy Mondays, and then the "After party" or "Hangover" with Oasis, etc. If they did it as a GoodFellas it might work ("20 years in the life of Manchester"), because veach segment of the story is interesting. And to the person who said that the bands didn't sound alike, that doesn't make it any less of a "scene". I think the differences of the bands is what made it so great. Anyway, I don't think I'm alone here in pointing out that the perfect title for Danny Boyle's film would be "Pills & Thrills & Bellyaches". Kind of sums up all of it, huh? Also the only good thing about The Beach is the fact that it has the first New Order Song in 7 years...
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definitely the CHEMICALS!
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Not that I am a huge fan of music-based subject matter for films (it should compliment not drive a film), I have to say that the idea of exploring the Manchester music scene is fascinating. It was (IMHO) one of the last great music movements. No wellversed person can deny the subsequent impact that the bands form that region have had. Joy Division/New Order, The Smiths, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, to name a few. The music coming out of there started further back than many realize and has always built on those that came before. Rave culture as it has come to be evolved from the drug-induced, shoe-gazing funk cranked out by the Ryder brothers et.al. And to think that its influence wasn't felt across the pond is like saying that dogs don't like to roll in dead things.
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I think it was Uncut that reported that D. Boyle's next flick would be about Joy Division- period. I he was just being unspecific here by saying "the manchester music scene", since the real meat of the story was what Joy Division and Factory did for Manchester.
The article also mentioned that Boyle was more excited to meet Bernard Sumner than Leo.
I would love to see a Joy Division film- they are my fav band, but i have a feeling that it would be disappointing. Who would play Ian? Rick Schroeder would do a pretty decent Bernard Albrecht/Dicken/Rubble/Sumner if he learned the accent well...
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The director behind such indie kid friendly films as "Trainspotting" and "Shallow Grave" has expressed a desire to bring the feelgood story of Joy Division to a movieplex near you. In this month's Select magazine, filmmaker Danny Boyle spoke of his recent joy at placing a new New Order tune, "Brutal," on the soundtrack of his latest film, "The Beach." It seems he was more excited about meeting Bernard Sumner than the sunny-faced Leo DiCaprio. He went on to explain that he had already spoken to his producer, Andrew MacDonald, about the "bleak, but wonderful story" of the live fast, die young band that produced arguably the most depressing music ever recorded. The question does beg to be asked: who will play the seriously disturbed icon and suicide victim, Ian Curtis? Please, God, not Aidan Quinn.
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Now that was a Band...
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i wanna, i wanna, i wanna be adored. i gotta be adored
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Danny boyle and andrew McDonald are possibly making a movie aout the Manchester music scene but if you think it's all baggy trousers and E tabs you lot are so wide of the mark. Less Madchester more ...well depressing really. Boyle is interviewed in March edition of Select Magazine (british music mag) and what the guys are basically working on is the story of Ian Curtis and Joy Division.WHO? cries middle america.Well i'm not hear to Give you a lesson in rock and/or roll but swiftly....
Joy Division, who took their name from the name given to The prostitutes explotied by the German army in WWII, were a seminal band from manchester at the end of 70's beginning of the 80's led by the enigmatic and haunted figure of Ian Curtis-a life long depressive and epilepsy sufferer. In their time they released according to Kurt cobain the best song ever written (Love will tear us apart again) and the most intense album in history -Closer. Then Curtis managed to tie himself to the wrong end of a noose and the rest of the band continued under the name New Order (am i ringing any bells here????)
who curiously enough have broken an almost 8 year hiatus to record a song for what movie? Quel Surprise -
-'The Beach'.
Okay boyle is quoted as saying "it's a bleak story obviously , but also a wonderful on. Who'd Play Ian Curtis? I think you'd have to cast complete unknowns off the street"
(Well that solves the slightly akward situation of running back to Ewan Mcgregor to take on the lead role after 'Whoever the young hollywood soup de jour' is turns you down.
This possibly is a bad idea for a filmaker like boyle. Besides the fact that there has never been a half decent music biopic ( dont get me started on The Doors -or tina turner for that matter-and i dont think amadeus really counts)Boyle visual flair has served him well and he has proved himself better than most in filming works of contemporary fiction. But this is a real real life story dealing with real emotions and there are enough people still around who were there at the time all things considered i think Danny should pass this one on to Michael winterbottom -
New Order broke a four year haitus (not 8). They split in 94 and then they were back in 98. Did the Apollo gig and the Reading gig and the New Years gig and the Commonwealth gig, plus a fine Peel session where they re-recorded Isolation, Atmosphere, Paradise, TBTHOG and True Faith. Oh, and the Brutal track also. Peel played a faster version compared to the CD on his radio show couple of weeks ago but I hear there will be no singles from that track. New Album on the way.
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Due to horrible sentence structure it appeared as if I implied Brutal was a peel track, which is incorrect.
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He could play Peter Hook, New Order's bassist. They look alike when Ewan is in shaggy/beard mode.
Boyle has a real ear for music. Say what you will about any of his movies, the soundtracks are always pitch perfect. Anyone who can throw Andy Williams and Leftfield in the same flick in a meaningful way should have carte blanche to make any kind of a music film he wants.
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I really do hope it's more along the lines of Joy Division/New Order or The Smiths than Oasis. Following a band from the punk days through to the acid-house/Madchester/baggycore explosion would be quite interesting, in a sort of Velvet Goldmine-esque way. Oasis, however, are nowhere near as interesting.
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Yes they are arrogant pricks, yes the rip off the Beatles and yes it all sounds the same. But I like it, I know it's sad and depressing but I like it, like it, yes I do.
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Feb 05, 2000 8:52:01 PM CST
WE GREW UP WITH THE MADCHESTER SCENE..........LISTEN TO US!!!!!!
by andyandterresa
We grew up in Britain throughout the 80's and 90's and have experienced all aspects of the "Madchcester" era.
Personally I feel it was the most influencial period for British music as it stands today, spawning acts like Chemical Bros (who could forget that duet with Noel Gallagher) and even the likes of "Primal Scream".
Bands like The Stone Roses, Happy Mondays and Morrisey shaped modern music on both sides of the Atlantic........and I'd like to hear an argument otherwise! (Please do NOT include bands like Nirvana in that...totally different subject).
I would like to see someone like Danny Boyle do a movie about such a fucked up period in MUSICAL HISTORY. In all honesty all you have to do is read the book by BEZ, the infamous dancer from The Happy Mondays (called Freaky Dancin'), to realise the potential of this period in British (and worldwide) musical history.
At the same time, however, you've got the anarchiac antics of bands like Oasis and the recent im-prisonment of Ian Brown (ex-Stone Roses singer) to continue the movie into modern times.
All in all, I think this is a SHIT HOT story that deserves to be told......certainly more than the likes of normal Britiah films like The full Monty (true Story?...I think not!) and Notiing HIll (a famous movie star falling for a bumbling, flumoxed fuck-rag....Come On!!!!)
do us a favour Danny...do a new film without the Leo's of the world in it.......
P.s. If your reading this Danny....I am available to work on this film if you want!!!!!!!
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I can understand that many Yanks will be scratching their heads at the talk of Indie, White Guitar rock from the North of England. This is of course music that went largely unnoticed in its native country let alone the world (I only ever saw The Roses once on TOTP). But this was as far as I'm concerned the best music scene in Britain since Punk. Unlike the latter it wasn't a scene mainly identified with Southerners, it was us people in the grim North who churning out timeless tunes. Now if it's done right then the world will know about what Madchester meant to us.
Nowadays music is shite. Economies are booming and 4 year olds are the ones with affluence and financial strength. The record companies are manufacturing -
Okay, a Joy Division bio-pic sounds like a good idea. Maybe it could work. . .But still. . .Good or bad - if the movie turns out to be popular, it could probably be the start of a tasteless global Ian Curtis suicide cult. . . And do anybody REALLY want that? Parents will be frightened, old Joy Division fans will moan, and teenagers will sit alone in their room and look moody while listening to "Decades" instead of headbanging to "Smells Like Teen Spirit". AAARGH! But then i DID grow up with british indie music, and part of me WOULD like to see it make some serious marks on the global popular culture. So good luck to Danny Boyle.
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