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Friday’s Furious FRINGE 4.3!!
I’m not certain, but I believe tonight’s installment of “Fringe” may be the first written by David “Furious” Fury, he of “Buffy,” “Angel,” “Lost” and “24” fame.
Fox says of “Alone in the World”:
When two 12-year-old kids bully another boy, they are found dead and in just hours after dying their bodies are shockingly in an advanced state of decomposition. As the Fringe team investigates the mysterious case, they uncover an amorphous figure claiming more victims. Meanwhile, Walter becomes increasingly distracted by his hallucinations.
9 p.m. Friday. Fox.
Readers Talkback
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He's writing for Fringe now! How did that one escape me? Look forward to this one!
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first....i guess
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i've enjoyed the first two episodes but I'd like to see where the main arc with peter is going. or at least get me some more observer backstory.
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And from the looks of the talkback so did everyone else. P U. I didn't even finish last season. This show didn't jump the shark, it went into orbit over the shark.
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It is Fury 1st ep.
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the dimension .vs. dimension plot with people kidnapping and crossing over.....I really enjoyed it.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
I dunno, bot Olivia's getting in each other's shit was pretty hot, last ep...
by Billyeveryteen
Finding out you're a seiral killer in the other world ain't no picnic either.
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At some point, I think Walter is going to calm down and not freak out every time he hears/feels Peter. When that happens, I think Peter will explain what has happened and help Walter find a way to reintegrate Peter into the timeline or go back or something.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST
they need to stop putting two anna torvs in the same shot
by itrainmonkeys
one is always clearly green screen and not there. if it was harder to tell then keep doing it.....but there were two or three times where it looked obviously like Olivia, Lincoln, and a weird green screen olivia were there
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the whole Peter being erased from existence story has not paid off yet and has runied the remaining characters...hopefully they can go back to the original timeline soon as this might be the beginning of the end...the ratings are the lowest they have even been for the show even the standalone stories aren't as interesting so far...I think the writers ran out of ideas after deciding to erase Peter and are now making it up as they go along
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perfect.now make them both naked,kissing and touching each other and i can die a happy man.
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Look fine in the same shot, stop the complaining already. It is freaking TV, of course it is not going to be perfectly done. Looks fine to me as compared to other situations when 2 of the same person has graced my tv screen.
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Just a quick heads up, but the reason it looked like one of them was green screened and not really there...is because one of them was green screened and not really there. IMO it is a clever alternative to actually cloning and growing a second Anna Torv, and teaching her how to speak, act, and use toilet facilities all in the span of a week. Once you've digested this revelation, we need to sit down and have a talk about WWE wrestling.
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Missing Peter isn't that compelling. I think Fringe peaked last season around Olivia's escape from Earth 2. They didn't seem to know what to do after that. A lot of plot threads went nowhere (miracle baby, Peter killing shape shifters, Walter getting better, William Bell coming back, Sam Weiss, etc.)
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All those ham-handed references to the missing Peter are getting on everyone's nerves. We like the character, but get on with the fucking story already. How bout an Earth where the First People are still around? And, you know, like, evil?
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Is placing negative criticism on a show that most of us would agree is the best thing since sliced bread cool? I disagree. It is not cool. I understand criticism of plot holes and what not, but until the story has played out, you're only hurting yourself if you give up on the show or try to make others think that this show is not good enough for you. If I could, I would green screen all of you right out of AICN and replace you with the second coming of Beavis and Butthead. While not great TV, at least I can get a chuckle out of them.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST
glyphguy- only the idiots are bailing on this show now
by Michael Lunney
You are correct. Sounds like a lot of the people posting here are morons who don't get subtlety, let alone superior genre storytelling.
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if you notice, my original post points out my problem being that it's "clearly" green screened and "obvious" in a way that pulls me out of it. I even say that if they could figure a way out to make it look better than go for it but as it is now it just looks cheap...like the shots on the boat in CW's Ringer. I appreciate you trying to be a smartass and make me look stupid. But my problem hasn't been that one of them is green screened in.....it's that it looks so bad.
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John Cena told me so on twitter.
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Sorry, dont mean to start arguments, but jumping the shark to me, means that a show has strayed so far from its original premise, that it has become a joke. How has Fringe done this? Please explain that to me. Seriousley, i want to know. Again, not trying to be arsey. No pressure.
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Though when Broyles made the comment about some souls leaving an "indelible mark," or something to that effect, I cringed as hard as humanly possible. Last season lost wasn't terribly focused past the midway point (I'm looking at you, soul magnets), but it's still a quality show, and the pieces that are still in play hold a lot of promise.
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The original story, as I saw it, had Olivia being able to disarm bombs with her mind. The observers had a cool mysterious backstory (not lame and a cop out). Olivia was supposed to be so cool and special because of her cortexifan (sp?) injections. And... How'd that all turn out? I Haven't seen her do anything impressive since season 1. Pacey seems to have gotten all the cool stuff, and then they microwaved him off. I also assumed walter would get better, not worse and nuttier. IMO its become a parody of itself. And i watched most of last season. I want to say I stopped with aobut 4 episodes left to go. Never knew the other Olivia was a serial killer though. And the love triangle crap? Mother of god. Why.
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Didn't Peter kind of stop the two worlds from smashing into each other? Sure we're playing Where's Peter now but what's the driving force of the show now? Are the two world's still collapsing into each other? Are those new shapeshifters a sign of yest ANOTHER alternate universe and more holes that Walter poked in more universes. We've seen at least three observers, maybe there is one for each universe? Maybe there are only twelve universes if we're to go by the names of the Observers?
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Oct. 7, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST
Last week's episode was one of the best things I've seen on TV. Ever.
by nico_laos
As for those of you who've given up on this show ... No one gives fuck.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST
Totally agree with you nico_laos. Last week's episode was so damn fantastic it should be used as a lesson for any screenwriting class.
by elgato73
And the episode before it (the series premiere) as well. That's what makes Fringe so special--this is REAL landmark television. We've gone beyond The X-Files, even beyond original Star Trek with just just how amazing this show can be. And Lost? No one even cares. Lost should have been what Fringe has become. Lost teased us with another world that was nothing but a Capraesque fantasyland that was so boring and perplexingly stupid that it killed every bit of story and character development that had come before it. But Fringe has taken the idea of another Earth, an alternate world with an alternate reality existing in another dimension, and cemented it as both threat and savior. I suppose we could even say that Fringe's writers have taken ideas used by DC Comics over the last century with their infinite Earths and gone totally batshit awesome with it. And what a fucking risk that is to take on network television. My God. How this series has survived for four seasons is beyond belief. That's what makes Fringe the best show on network television right now. And one of the best all time.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST
I'm still in it to win it! Fringe & Person of Interest...
by Cheif Brody
are the only 2 hour-long network dramas I can stomach right now. <p> Less Peter = MORE Walter. Everyone wins there. Noble is still killing it...and the writing is staying very sharp. Still waiting for Nina to show up...and Alt-Charlie...'cept he's now on NBC's Prime Suspect. Maybe he'll be back in a coupla weeks when Suspect gets the axe. <p> Whoever created Person of Interest is a HUGE fan of Lee Child's "Jack Reacher" novels. Jim Caviezel's character is named John Reese....but it may have well as been Jack Reacher. So, fuckin sick they handed that movie role to Tommy Cruise. Caviezel is NAILING it. Emerson can do no wrong in my book.
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Didn't see that ending coming. How has John Noble not won anything for his role?
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seriously, is there anything the man cannot do? his Aussie accent slipped in on one word though: "yester-DAI". that was great television. bravo.
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But this was a meh episode. Not really bad just simplistic and anvil clanging. Next week looks good though.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST
The sad thing is Noble would win the Emmy
by In Action Man Reborn Requiem
if he was on some shitty CBS forensic procedural playing essentially the same role. The TV and Movie academies have never had much respect for the sci-fi and fantasy genres. This episode was one of the weaker ones of the entire series. Bring back David Robert Jones. If Alt-Broyles can be alive then DRJ can certainly make a comeback. Jared Harris should be able to find the time. I think Sherlock Holmes II has wrapped and he is part of a large ensemble on Mad Men.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST
Why did the 2 universes come together now and have knowldege of each other, if Peter never existed and Walter never created the doorway between? The parallel universe would never has been damaged and neither side would have known of the other.
by Griefo
Hmm?
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I love how the case always parallels whats going on in a particular characters life.
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Hands down, the best show in TV, and tonight's episode rocked!
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Noble and Torv are among the best actors working these days. I love me some Fringe!
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Yes, Fringe is great, if you love your entertaiment shitty and moronic. Anna Torv deserves much better, and so does the rest of the cast.
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Right now they are down to standalone stories and I don't find myself annoyed because Peter isn't there to annoy me. He'll be back soon, but I'm enjoying it while it lasts. I'm not looking forward to all the time devoted to his romance with Olivia. His scenes with Walter help make up for it a bit though.
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About halfway through "61 Hours" by Lee Child and I agree...POI does resonate that Jack Reacher vibe. Love the scene this week where he headbutts the banker! Definitely a Reacher solution. And last week's Fringe got elevated to do not delete status on the DVR; better than most movies.
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the observer's reveal that 'peter never existed, they dont remember him' by having it said that peter died. so presumably both peter's died from the childhood illness right? then both walter's will still remember him...
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Sweet Jesus people, that episode didn't throw a ton of new backstory at us, but if you even half paid attention, you would have overheard Walter telling the little boy Aaron (sp?) that his son Peter died of a disease he found a cure for only too late. He then created a bridge between an alternate universe where he was able to bring the other Peter back with him to cure him, only the bridge was on a frozen lake that broke and the other Peter drowned when they came back over. Obviously Aaron wondered why he isn't on his way back to a mental hospital. Next week looks really good in a Peter-Poltergiest kind of way.
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It was that things were re-written that he never grew into a man. So, he died as a boy in both universes in the new timeline. I think the show has been consistant with this from the beginning.
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Awesome read...and, yes, thought the same thing when Caviezel headbutted the banker! <p> Typical Reacher. <p> Last night's Fringe rocked. Not a big fan of "kid centric" storylines...but it was necessary, I suppose, to co-relate to Peter's failure at the frozen lake in this fractured timeline. <p> I did notice that Dunham had that sketch of Peter up when she was doing her face recognition scan at the mid-point of the ep...but I assumed Walter had already given her a description of the man he had been seeing in the reflections. I had no idea she had been seeing Peter, too...only in her dreams. <p> At least Nina got a mention in this episode! Man, Blair Brown & Josh Jackson are pullin a pretty good salary for doing nothing! Next week's episode looks really fucking good.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST
So I actually got misty eyed over a TV show about a giant pizza topping
by proevad
Well fucking done, Fringe.
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how could they? he never existed. he served his purpose.
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anyway they said the above, which is different to both peter's being born then dying, but whatever...
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...absolutely hilarious and terrifying. Also, did Peter just go Dr. Manhattan on us? Is he going to be all non-corporeal for a bit, then un-humpty-dumpty himself and go blue man with his peen flapping in the wind?
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I'm a fan, though I have other things to do on Fridays, so Fringe is usually watched first thing Saturday morning. I find myself cherishing every little thing about each episode now that it is facing what I see as imminent cancellation as it has been sent to the Friday death slot. I loved Walter and Olivia's final scene in this episode. It's not often that this show makes me shed a tear, but that mutual sense of loss and hopelessness between them... that did it. I absolutely love this show.
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I thought they'd gone too far by erasing Peter from existence. But it's shaping up to be the best season. I know AICN is full of haters who think everything sucks - especially, for some reason, anything that has a female lead - but this show is fucking amazing. Pay some fucking attention to the subtle changes in the characters and the time line with Peter missing and marvel at Torv's ability to convey how her character has changed and the writers' abilities to explore the changes in the relationships between the characters due to the absence of Peter. It's fucking masterful. Plus they're so good at thematically tying the sub stories into the larger plot now. I never feel like I'm watching filler. Kudos to them for having the balls to explore the Peter-free timeline without resolving it too soon either. Good stuff.
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You are totally on point. I said about last week's episode that they are doing a shit ton of Peter without Peter at all. They had Broyles comment to Olivia about the indelible mark some people leave on your soul. They also had a conversation where Astrid wanted to see Olivia hook up with Lincoln to no avail and she told Olivia she doesn't think her type exists. This is the stuff that makes this show amazing. They have these ridiculous story lines that are awesome sci-fi yet still find a way to make the subtle details that are these peoples' normal lives connect to the bigger picture every step of the way.
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Awesome. I'm not the only pussy who teared up. Thank Christ.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST
Prestigeworldwide - I wrote that before seeing the episode. Now I understand.
by Griefo
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When there was that book and it was saying there was a war coming then there was parts of the machine and then none of it was ever followed up to any extent and all and got assembled without us.... fucking cunts. It would have been better if the fringe events were trigged by parts of the machine then it would have tied in the strange events with the main plot.. i mean what the fuck did this spore shit come from what's got to do with fringe, send in a fungal expert. We are rolling up to episode 4 with no plot progression .... looking like the last season of fringe to me.
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Dito here. I like Fringe a lot too. But the only thing keeping Fringe up at the moment are the three Peter-minutes + John Noble at the end of each episode. New season is pretty boring.
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There were moments last season that kind of started to shine, but last weeks episode with the guy who was a college professor on one side and serial killer on the other was excellent writing. This moldy growth episode was by far not great and they could stick with the different what-ifs from universe to universe and that in itself could be the rest of the show and I would be happy. Hell that could be a new show altogether and that would be for some good storytelling, even without having any weekly sci-fi crap flung in.
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