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THE RAVEN Trailer!
Nordling here.
I'm curious to see John Cusack as Poe in THE RAVEN myself, but I've heard ambivalent things about the film. But I like James McTeigue as a director - still think V FOR VENDETTA was aces, no matter what Alan Moore may think - and the concept seems like it could be a lot of fun.. Here's the trailer, via First Showing:
THE RAVEN opens Spring 2012. Nordling, out.
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1st!
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Woot! Looks gay.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST
Even though you used the word "aces", I'm still interested in this movie.
by DonkeyBalls
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I'm interested!
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...but I feel nothing for this. It doesn't feel dark, gritty or 'of a period', as it should. It feels 'MATRIXy'...just standard action movie fare. Hope I'm wrong.
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I'm calling it right now and saying he's the killer.
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Or a reboot?
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SKYFALL
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and I can't seem to skip it. Guess I'll have to wait to see it elsewhere.
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Oh yea
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Yes, it seems like standard action movie fare, but the Edgar Allen Poe involvement sounds cool. I read a lot of his stories when I was younger. I might see this.
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I just wanted to say that...
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Maybe even worse than Van Helsing or Underworld: Curse of the Lycans. And that's saying a lot.
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It looks about as much fun as The Brothers Grimm. I'll see it. Not one to own maybe.
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I was worried that they were going to turn Poe into a detective who wrote about actual murders. This looks like Seven meets Sleepy Hollow via The Alienist...I like it.
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I have no remaining faith in McTeigue. V For Vendetta was solid. It's no wonder that's the movie marketing teams are maintaining an association with. This looks like a cheap combo of Seven and Sleepy Hollow, plot-wise.
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or sort of like if Edgard Allen Poe was a board game and not a good writer...looks ok
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with Poe instead of Arthur Conan Doyle
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST
Poe is credited with writing the first detective story not Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
by THE_CHOPPAH
And it is widely believed that Doyle based Sherlock off of Poe's earlier fictional detective, Le Chevalier C. Auguste Dupin.
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And by that I mean reviews that won't result in lawyers and cease-and-desist letters and threats of studio blacklists.
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this looks very similar to the book List of 7 by mark frost. Insert Poe instead of Doyle.
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"I'll check it out" Looks good to me.
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that's my guess
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST
Fuck me, will you American's stop putting chunks of the third act into the trailer?!
by Erik_Richmond
Doing me nut in having practically the whole story spelled out months before I get to see a film. This is ticking loads of boxes for me but I would have much preferred more of a tease, than knowing exactly whats gonna happen up until the last five mins. Wouldn't it have been better to suspect that EAP could be the killer? This trailer gives away that he's not...
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Cusack = the opposite of dark
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST
A trailer is a commercial. We don't need a different commercial first.
by ar42
Thank you.
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John Cusack!
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is not his thirteen year old cousin
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Seriously, I hate that guy.
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the inspector... is the killer
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If we all post negative comments on this trailer, will the movie's legal counsel send AICN.com a letter to have them removed along with the trailer?
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Oh thank God. Thank God. They went back for reshoots after that review that got erased from here, and put in the orangutan sequence. It's going to be okay, guys.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
On the plus, imagine how bad this would be if Stallone was involved
by Mel
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST
Poe's Se7en....but hey, at least he's not fighting vampires or zombies
by openthepodbaydoorshal
or witches or whatever literary mash up was popular lately. Question is, what time frame do these murders take place? Because 3 of Poe's most famous stories - The Pit & The Pendulum, Premature Burial and The Tell Tale Heart were published a year apart, in 1842, 1843 and 1844.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST
At least Cusack has the appropriate giant forehead
by openthepodbaydoorshal
for the role.
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+ the tiny chin. looks-wise I think Cusack was an excellent choice. I would have preferred a real bio though with maybe some fantasy/horror drunken dream sequences.
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Seriously, this trailer is like the steam from a turd.
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I believe the story goes that Doyle was largely inspired by his own teacher, Dr. Joseph Bell, in the creation of Holmes, no?
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This is gonna be the shit.
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Every once in awhile I'll still see this complained about here in the talkbacks, or even in youtube comments themselves, and it always baffles me. I would've thought that ad blocking software is fairly common now, for even the most casual, moderately educated computer person now. I've literally NEVER had to do with an ad at the beginning of a youtube video, mostly I think because I've been employing a plug-in in my Firefox browser for a very long time now that was extremely easy to get and "install". How are more people not utilizing this still this late in the game?
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not gonna waste my time
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I've got my own adblocking scripts installed, I wasn't aware there was an update for the youtube video ads. Thanks for the heads up, you have no idea how sick I am of that shit.
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Vendetta rocks, too.
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They were both written by the same guy.
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I am slightly concerned about the action movie shine the trailer has. At the same time, I can't help to wonder what Rambo's approach to Poe would/will/could be. I imagine The Raven, with maddafakkin darts with explosive devices...n shit! Big-ass knives and brutal close combat scenes...n shit! Oh, yeah, will probably see this. Cusacks acting always annoys me, and I watch his movies to get pissed off.
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When Poe becomes an action star in the 2nd half it all started to fall apart. Probably just like it will in the movie. This is a studio trying to cash in on SHERLOCK HOLMES success. Too bad.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST
I like the concept, as a Poe fan, but the trailer didn't hit like lightening. I'll still certainly see it. Read below for my prediction spoliers!
by The Reluctant Austinite
I haven't read the script and know nothing about the actual plot details, but I know a little about Poe and Poe culture. This could be a spoiler, but it's just a guess, so read on if you're not afraid! Based on the way the killer is dressed, and if I were writing the script about the mysterious last days of Poe's life, I'd make the killer the person who becomes the infamous first Poe Toaster who was only captured in one blurry photo. For many years the Poe Toaster would leave a half bottle of cognac and three roses at Poe's grave on his birthday. Poe died in 1849 and the first recorded sighting of the Poe Toaster was in 1949, exactly one hundred years later. The identity of the Toaster is said to have been handed down, possibly from father to son over several generations. I'm going to guess that a post script (and likely the frozen blurry photo) will try to tie the identity of the killer to the Poe Toaster and his legacy. This is, of course, if the film doesn't end up suggesting something supernatural.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST
So clearly the killer is the guy that explains everything to Poe in the trailer...
by Ray_Tango
...thanks trailer maker. Now I don't need to see the film.Not that I would seeing as this looks like an even more boring and derivative version of Sherlock Homes/From Hell/Sleepy Hollow but with a more shitty protagonist. Cusack doesn't even get one great line or moment in the trailer! This doesn't bode well. Hopefully it's one of those cases where the trailer is trying to make an intelligent slow-paced thriller made for adults look like a stupid action film made for retards ... and this turns out to be the former.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST
They so wish they could've cast Downey, Jr. instead of Cusack
by captaincosmos
Clearly, the only way this was green lighted was because of the success of Sherlock Holmes. I can hear them in the pitch meeting now, then furiously reworking what may have once been an original script to match the movie they just pitched the studio execs. All that being said, I'll Netflix (I mean, Qwikster!) this one day... maybe.
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Has got to be one of the most hardest working and still yet unrecognizable actors out there. He pops up in so many big budget blockbusters and you kind of go " oh its HIM again! " ...he must have a great agent !! He IS a fantastic actor though. Watch him in 1408 , the spooky film about the hotel room.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST
watch it again, but pretend its a prequel to Grosse Pointe Blank
by Arcadian Del Sol
told ya - it totally works if you pretend its a prequel
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Oct. 7, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST
also - does anyone know if its based in Baltimore, or did they relocate him to a more 'fashionable' home town?
by Arcadian Del Sol
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I'll still see it, but the trailer straight up stole the imagery from those three movies.
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and a new book by Mark Frost.
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more histofiction horse shit for people with no understanding of the source material or attention spans longer than 5 minutes.
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will def see it !
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Oct. 7, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
As a nearly life-long Poe fanatic I have absolutely no idea what to think of what I just saw --
by MooseMalloy
-- but I guess Cusack as Poe will get me to see it anyway.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST
I'm a Poe fanatic, and I want to see it! I think the trailer looks good...though, I wish they'd CGI out his goatee.
by planetran_fan
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Oct. 7, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST
Does Cusack not drive a black Town Car in this? First time for everything.
by Stuntcock Mike
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quit making excuses for it..... It sucked.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 10:04 p.m. CST
There was a review on AICN that was pulled out due t studio orders
by Ricardo
By the way, the review said it was shit. So, don't go see this.
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This review pulled out from AICN said so.
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Soooo... it's like Seven + Sherlock Holmes + Shakespeare in Love only as Poe instead of Shakespeare? Er.... ok.
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Jonathan, you're gonna give me an ulcer.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST
for some reason i was expecting everyone to have british accents, also, john loves a good batman impression...WHERE IS SHEEEEEEE
by Daniel
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Oct. 8, 2011, 5:26 a.m. CST
Why does anyone rate McTeigue when he makes everything look cheap and wooden?
by melonman
70s era Dr Who may be great hokey fun, but when you have the money and talent to make something so much better it's a hell of waste.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 5:36 a.m. CST
If Poe came back and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up
by BenBraddock
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Swing and a miss!
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I called this shit MONTHS ago in a talkback. Said it was going to be a mixture of From Hell and Sherlock Holmes. 2 hours of Cusack pursing his lips, raising his eyebrows, and pulling that same slightly confused face he's been using for 20 or so years. He does it so often if you pay attention it will actually distract you from the film. Seriously can anyone name a film with him in it from the last 10 years where he hasn't seemed sleepy and bored as fuck? Must Love Dogs Indeed.
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Nice pronunciation. Great period acting.
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I mention The Jack Bull as an example of John being capable of a serious role. I've yet to ever judge a movie by the trailer, so I'll check it out. I like the subject. It's not making Poe an action hero, so much as he gets dragged into a mystery. Sherlock Holmes was much more guilty of turning a classic character into too much of an action guy.
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Stephen Hawking is THE PARALYZER. Don't fuck with him, his sidekick monkey Jeeves, or his gadget filled wheelchair.
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seriously Cusack is a terrible actor. He does nothing but show up and him in a period movie is ever worse and take the credibility out of the entire film as well. I'm fucking out. fuck you hollywood again for doing nothing original or interesting at all. Finally, DRIVE SEE IT NOW!!!!!!!
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I would have typed lol but I didn't actually laugh out loud, so that would have been dishonest...but it did make me smile.
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AdBlock Plus, get it get it
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Two things can redeem this. I've already talked about the crammin' orangutan; I'll shut up about it. Redemption point two is an all-Poe soundtrack. She signed a really fucked-up contract for her last album and I think she's free to record new music now. Buy out her contract if I'm wrong about that, and let the poor woman write some goddamn music.
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To quote Poe himself... <p> "All that we see or seem, Is but a dream within a dream". <p> I ALSO have "ad blocking technology". It's called a mute button and patience. Or in technical terms: <p> A simple hand wave. Mute. Divert attention elsewhere for 15 or 25 seconds. Unmute. <p> Bravo to all that have circumvented those pesky ads! I applaud your code writing (or downloading) prowess. But to what end? <p> You see, good people...Bandwidth costs money. The world runs on MAKING money. The money is made via slick marketing and advertising ploys to get you to buy products and services. <p> Our fancy DVRs and TiVos have already changed that business model on the television network level. The second our impatience with commercials gave us that sweet technology, the advertisers frowned. They new if we were given the ability to "skip" their messages, they were dead in the water. Thus, ad rates were decreased significantly as advertisers pulled their spending back. Networks weren't making as much capital. Sure, they figured out a way to "factor in" the rating of our gleeful time-shifting viewers...but the advertisers still new..."They're fast forwarding right past our ads! At 4x speed!". <p> And we giggle..."Ha ha! Fuck you advertisers! Not our problem!", we say with a knowing snark. <p> I'm here to tell ya...it IS our problem. <p> As a result of "ad skipping" techware...we lead ourselves down a road we dare not travel. NOTHING is free, friend-os. Nothing. <p> The 30 seconds you save in skipping that pesky ad for "Metamucil" before the trailer...will eventually start adding up...and it will eventually cost you. <p> Advertisers will wander off...looking to place their client's ad dollars somewhere else. No sense in spending their $$$ if we, the consumers, are just gonna rip right past their messages. Right? <p> So...excellent...right? No more ads before trailers!! Yippee! <p> Wrong. <p> What will happen is...believe me...instead of Norling being able to embed The Raven trailer right here at AICN...he will have to supply you with a link to a movie trailer download website. This website will host the studios latest release's trailers to view to your hearts content...AD FREE!....Except....it WON'T be free. <p> You'll pay a subscription fee for that service....cuz, people worked hard to provide these trailers for your enjoyment...and bandwidth ain't free. Sure...there won't be any ads embedded inside the trailers...but there will be ads placed all over the website....much as they are here at AICN...pop ups, side expanding banner ads...heck...they'll probably take to putting the ads back in front of the trailers after a while....but you have to pay a "subscription upgrade" fee to get the ad-free trailer access. <p> Without the ad revenues trickling in...they have to CHARGE you. <p> So, I spent 3 minutes of your time, to get to a simple point...the 30 seconds you are saving now...will cost ya later. <p> But, it gets worse...especially in the DVR/TiVo world...where the TV networks are battling their own ad skipping woes. Back in 1984, The Cosby Show used to garner an amazing 24.2 rating each week! The new Ashton Kucher infused Two & A Half Men only garnered a paltry 7.4 rating last week, and was still America's top rated show! <p> Hmmmm....that's a HUGE difference, right? That's a 17 point drop from 1984's top sitcom...to 2011's top sitcom. Sure, we had less distractions and viewing/entertainment options back in '84...but still...Money is money...and the networks are making a shit load less. Factor in today's "ad skipping" tech into the mix, and you can see the panic in their eyes. <p> Network TV is gonna end up going the way of the dinosaurs...and there will be no such thing as "FREE TV" anymore (Save for public access, public TV and C-SPAN). You will soon PAY to see Ashton Kucher walk around naked on that turd of a show, over and above what you are already paying Bright House, Verizon, Comcast, or Knology to bring it into your home. <p> Your cable and satellite rates will go up, cats and dogs will be living together, mass hysteria! <p> It took me 30 seconds of patience to sit through the "Halloween Horror Nights" ad that Universal tacked onto the front of this Raven trailer. I muted it...watched a lil football to pass the time...then unmuted it and I enjoyed the damn trailer. <p> In this world of "ME! NOW! ME! NOW!", I'm trying to do my part to stop the future where we ALL have to be able to afford a "GLOBAL iPASS" account that allows you to watch the REMAKE, of the REMAKE of The Raven in 2018...without an irritating :30 ad in front of it. <p> Ahhh...the subscription, "pay for everything" future....To quote Poe, one last time: <p> "It is by no means an irrational fancy that, in a future existence, we shall look upon what we think our present existence, as a dream."
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The hot tub took them farther back this time...
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I'll take a smile any day. Peace.
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I'm just posting it here first, because I wanted credit for the first Vigoda RIP post. Carry on.
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This looks fucking stupid.
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Best cinema experience I've had.
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Oct. 9, 2011, 8:39 a.m. CST
It had me until Edgar A Poe's hot wife with the Californian accent
by Wookie_Weed
For fuck's sake, the old "murderer kidnaps protagonist's beloved and taunts him in a race against time" plot device? Fuck this shit.
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Oct. 9, 2011, 8:42 a.m. CST
News just in -- Spielberg's Lincoln assassination biopic!
by Wookie_Weed
Lincoln doesn't die in the film -- he secretly survives so he can track down his assassin and KICK HIS ASS. Nicholas Cage is in talks to play Lincoln.
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I have a feeling he's going to ruin this movie. I'm sorry literature fans, even though you have a giant hard on for this, it doesn't look like it's going to be any good.
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Oct. 9, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST
If Lincoln can be a vampire hunter, I see no problem here...
by Shub-Wankalot
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Sherlock Holmes was much more guilty of turning a classic character into too much of an action guy.
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Sherlock Holmes was much more guilty of turning a classic character into too much of an action guy.
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Oct. 10, 2011, 6:25 a.m. CST
yes, comment field not working... that's not what I wrote both times
by Jared Bond
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am I right..????!!!!!
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