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AICN UK: THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE II Unbanned!!
Britgeek here.
Eureka Entertainment, the UK distributor of Australia's Bounty Films, announced in a press release today that after four months of expensive campaigning, THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE II (FULL SEQUENCE), which was banned outright by the BBFC back in June, has been granted an 18 certificate and will see a release in cinemas and on home entertainment formats. However, the film will be cut by almost three minutes.
Tom Six's controversial black-and-white sequel had its (uncut) world premiere at Fantastic Fest last month and was met with mixed reactions. Many viewers commented that it depicted violence purely for the sake of violence, much like the BBFC's report suggested, while others lauded it for being such a boundless horror film.
It is interesting to note that the powers that be in Australia have passed THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE II uncut, yet films such as CALIGULA, BAISE-MOI and the recent A SERBIAN FILM are banned. All three have 18 certificates in Britain, however.
So, which scenes are facing the chop at the behest of the BBFC? Look away if you do not wish to be spoiled and/or reviled.
From the BBFC website:
Company was required to make 32 individual cuts to scenes of sexual and sexualised violence, sadistic violence and humiliation, and a child presented in an abusive and violent context. In this case, cuts included: a man masturbating with sandpaper around his penis; graphic sight of a man's teeth being removed with a hammer; graphic sight of lips being stapled to naked buttocks; graphic sight of forced defecation into and around other people's mouths; a man with barbed wire wrapped around his penis raping a woman; a newborn baby being killed; graphic sight of injury as staples are torn away from individuals' mouth and buttocks. Cuts required in accordance with BBFC Guidelines, policy and the Video Recordings Act 1984.
This is an important victory for Eureka Entertainment, who plan to announce the release details next week.
Did you attend the world premiere? What did you think?
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Oct. 6, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST
Just when the last interview for this stupid movie hit page 2
by Lucky13
Here comes yet another one. Fuck you, AICN.
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...but does the science REALLY reward in the way that hearing Tony Blair dancing to your song one time can and has done? Probably not.
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Oct. 6, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST
Jesus Christ how many articles are you guys going to dedicate to this crap movie??
by Turd Furgeson
I don't think you guys wrote this much about AVATAR!! All this effort to a movie that will make $2MM at the box office and has ZERO artistic value or contribution to cinema...
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Well that in itself is a science far more betterer than that other science you've been carrying on with. And also: of course you can, provided he has feet with bones in and he's dancing on anything sturdier than a wet loaf of bread.
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Still better than transformer movies. What's the big deal anyhow. I mean.....we've all seen the mr.hands horse video online.......this movie certainly can't be any worse on the eyes than that.
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but can someone answer a question for me? Exactly WHY would someone want to make a "human centipede"? From what I gather, the guy in the second movie got the idea by watching the first movie and somehow thinking that it was a good idea. But what's the whole point in the first place? I mean, even in the first movie, exactly WHY was the mad doctor sewing people together like a centipede? Even accepting that he's probably just crazy as shit, exactly what was he expecting to get out of it?
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Seriously anyone that wastes thier time watching this vomit is pathetic.
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Oct. 6, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST
A newborn baby being killed... A man with barbed wire wrapped around his penis raping a woman...
by Particularly Hard Vato
Wow. Tom Six is quite the artist. He has portrayed sights so disgusting to peoples' sense of decency that he has crossed the line of what has been done before. And he thinks he is a pioneer. He is nothing but a pervert and a disgusting human being who, in the name of "fictional portrayal," claims his work is art. He is making a movie for money and is essentially nothing more than a director of pornography while claiming to be more. Good work Tom- yo have actually crossed the line in to completely worthless human being. Burn in hell.
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Presumably just for the fuck of having done it. Quite literally, it seems, in the case of our new man. I think Mr Six (or Sixx? And is he any relation to Nicki? Or Nicky?) was much less concerned with making any real narrative sense than he was with riffing on those old "consumer/consumed" themes like a man possessed - and with a self-satisfied (if not humourless, to be fair) air apparently indicative of a belief on his part that he was in fact the first person to ever have toyed with said themes cinematically ever even once - as if, say, La Grande Bouffe or Salo or Society or what have you, never mind Hostel, had never existed. Binding all of that with the extra dimension of our man's consumption of the original film in this sequel does, I have to say, make for a fairly compelling hook. I'll see the bloody old thing, but who knows just how embarrassing it'll all prove to be?
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Right there with you buddy. This is why AICN has lost relevancy in movie reporting.
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Good work Tom- yo have actually crossed the line in to completely worthless human being. Burn in hell.
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You people bitch about PG-13 horror and how it's awful. Then when you see something R rated, its no good as well. Tom Six gives you what you want and nobody cares?!?! I saw Hostel II years a ago and afterward in the lobby there was a group of people all bitching about how it wasn't graphic enough and how they wanted tons of blood and sick shit in it. Now I guess they get their wish.
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agreed. You took the words out of my mouth. I don't want this film banned, but It seems there is an immense amount of coverage at AICN about this the even though it is the most minor of films to think about this year.
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Oct. 6, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST
...balls (what I said, but what didn't show up for some reason)
by DukeDeMondo
QUOTE (owing to the talkback having the wildest dose of the panic shits when it sees quotation marks): Good work Tom- yo have actually crossed the line in to completely worthless human being. Burn in hell. Ruth's chuff, that's a fierce bit of knee jerking goin on there! Near sent the half of the hair on my head careering across the street with the gusts that came off it. Perspective, maybe? I dunno that the kind of person who'll happily wish eternal torment on another human being for no more of a crime than thinkin up some foul nonsense one day and then payin a load of folks to pretend to carry it all out on one another while he filmed it, I dunno that the kind of person who would wish that, I say, has really any right to be making moral judgements about anyone. Certainly I know what one I'd feel safer sharing a road with.
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Oct. 6, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST
For crying out loud, this site is supposedly run by knowledgeable people, no ... ?
by jazzdownunder
If the BBFC refuse to give a film a certificate then that is all that has happened... it has been refused a certificate. Without a BBFC certificate a cinema has to get permission from the local authority to screen a movie publicly. In fact, ultimately it is ALWAYS the local authority that grants this permission - a BBFC certificate just helps. It doesn't often happen that the BBFC are "over-ruled" by a local authority, but it does and has happened. *Private* screenings don't require a certificate OR local authority permission (if the film were "banned" then private individuals would not be allowed to own or view the film themselves or to exhibit the film to others, privately, either). Equally, just having a BBFC certificate doesn't mean your film will reach theaters. Local authorities CAN, and HAVE refused permission for films with BBFC certificate to be exhibited publicly (or indeed for individual cinemas or cinema chains to take such a stance). The *only* person with the power to flat-out BAN a movie in the UK is (as far as I know) the Home Secretary! Geez - what next? AICN gonna perpetuate the myth that "A Clockwork Orange" was banned in the UK too ? I expect you guys to have a clue and it behoves you to educate and inform your readers not wilfully misinform and mislead them. And I hate that you made me get emotionally involved in any way shape or form with this disgusting piece of film making. </rant>
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I need me some forced defecation, baby murder, and sandpapered whacking to make for a good horror film. I'm surprised they kept this movie so tame.
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made me immediately think of Pooh, which... well... made me immediately think of pooh... which immediately made me feel really uncomfortable. Then I somehow put Pooh into this context and felt worse. KTHXBYE.
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Is it possible for something to happen regarding this movie without AICN reporting on it. Let's not waist our time and bandwidth with this peace of sh*t.
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End of discussion.
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The 'ban' was faintly ludicrous in this day and age when anyone who wanted to could illegally obtain a copy; it was just giving the film more notoriety than it deserves. Also, wishing someone would burn in hell for creating a fictional film is a bit scary in and of it self. Reminds me of revenge-craved vigilantes who can't see the irony of their own bloodlust.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:38 a.m. CST
inevitable - why doesn't the spellcheck work in the heading?
by Dr Eric Vornoff
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My post making fun of Tom Six's name gets taken down but you promote a movie where someone rapes another person with a barbed wire dick? Seems a little off balance.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST
Amazing how much effort AICN is putting into making this bullshit movie relevant
by LargoJr
Give it up guys.. anyone stupid to see this movie is doing so for all the wrong reasons to begin with, and none of the rest of us could care less if it existed. For you to continue to hammer away at this, not only proves you have no real consideration for reasonable films, but for the legitimate cinema genre as a whole. This is why the Entertainment Industry will continue to manufacture garbage... because someone like AICN will always be there ready to sell off their legitimacy to promote worthless sequels and bad ideas. This isn't about censorship... this is about rewarding people who continue to do things that have no & make no valid contribution to the medium.
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JUST SAYING
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..what is fuckin wrong with these people,in what context is this art or entertainment?? If six such an artist then surely he would have opposed these cuts to his vision, this work of art that he claims this is. But no, he would rather have uk cinema and dvd revenue than stand by his work..that says everything you need to know...
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Poor Steve Jobs, he died before the CentiPad 2 could be released.
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The first film was crap, I'm guessing the sequel isn't going to be any better... You might as well be covering daft porno remakes as this.
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Disdain over what AICN's become! Yet I still visit the site and actively post in talkbacks! I demand a refund!
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Oct. 7, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST
So, it's unbanned...which removes the film's mystique, which means fewer people will see it.
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Good. The first Human Centipede was incredibly poorly made and literally put me to sleep before it got to the 'gross' parts. Tom Six certainly has the right to make his films. I'm a big supporter of absolute Freedom of Speech (barring filming actual criminal activities, such as snuff films, child pornography and 'bum fights' as well as hate speech in the form of specific calls to violence) but I have absolutely no interest in seeing this. Ever. And I watched Martyrs 3 times in a row.
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I'm curious why you think this is an important victory for the film company. Yes, the film will get a release here in the UK, but to get that, they have had to remove nearly 3 minutes from the film, so it won't be the full version they wanted to release.
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Harry, you really should be ashamed of yourself. Don't you have any sense of decency? The overwhelming majority of your readers have zero interest in this tasteless dreck. I forgot Harry, you have zero standards. You were actually talking up Serbian film and treating it as if it was a work of art. I'm sure that's what the pedophiles say when they try to justify their affinity for child porn.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 5:19 a.m. CST
no cinema release for this. (the studios decision not the BBFC)
by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm
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Oct. 7, 2011, 5:25 a.m. CST
I am all for freedom of expression and all that but for the record I will never ever ever watch this film and really dont understand anyone who would choose to have that in their heads
by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm
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This is an important victory for Eureka Entertainment's board members. They'll get to renew their golf club memberships for another few years. It's an unimportant defeat for pretty much every other human on the planet.
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That is all.
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So who really cares, huh? ;) Britain has an extremely storied history with censorship and the BBFC, and that is why any film that is banned or cut is very, very relevant and important and newsworthy. Those outside the UK may not understand if they are unaware of the Video Nasties Act in the '80s. Every major news outlet is running this story, it's one of the most-read in the last 24 hours, and it's a national trending topic. So... it's irrelevant? Yes, you can watch a film in private with permission from your local council if it has not been granted a BBFC certificate. Can a distributor have DVDs sold and get the film shown at a popular chain of cinemas? No.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 6:24 a.m. CST
A lot of commenting on a film not many on here have seen
by the_man_with_two_brains
Everyone has a right to offer opinion and comment but you cannot possibly criticise a film you haven't seen. I'll see it, whether at the cinema or on dvd as I thought the first one was darkly funny. I suspect (like the original Hostel) it won't live up to the hype but I'm not so worried about that. All I can see at the moment is lots of people jumping on a bandwagon, it's like burning books you've never read because they don't agree with your views/values. Put things in to perspective people. Negative reactions like this feed the opinions of those do-gooders out there who would ban the majority of films and make us citizens live in a sterile world, I enjoy entertainment of all shapes, sizes and tastes and prefer to make my own judgement on things based on having read/watched/listened to them...
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Well said. No one can judge a film if they haven't seen it, which, sadly, people always do.
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That's a giant leap from one subject matter to another, one that can only be made by someone with very limited perspective and intelligence
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I grew up in the 70's and 80's and remember the kerfuffle with 'video nasties' and all the press did is add to their lore. I suspect a lot of people on here are too young or immature to remember such things, everything comes in circles and I guess we're witnessing a resurgence in boundary pushing that those over a certain age will have witnessed before (albeit with laughable effects).
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Please bring back some decent horror and not these festivals of violence. They are just a cop-out for Horror movie makers who are not creative enough to produce films that genuinely scare. And so they rely upon crude demonstrations mortality such as this knowing full well the audience will shriek at sight of a newborn killing! WTF? Send this twat Six off to Afghanistan and maybe there he can see violence and mortality delivered for real, and figure why we don't need to be reminded of it. I saw Drive last night - now that's a great movie and it has a fair share of violence too (with purpose), but it's fucking brilliant, it's art! And above all else it's worthy..
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All of this, everything that has been written about, discussed, screamed, defended, and reviled is precisely what a filmmaker like Six is looking for, for better and for worse. I say this completely objectively. <br> Subjectively, I look at the list of required edits and think, "Oh, he got them. He REALLY got them." Why? Because it's a MOVIE. A team created casts, resins, prosthetic applications, and fake blood, ooze, mucous, feces, urine, you name it, and then with the director and camera crew worked with the hired actors to simulate in short, meticulous, methodical yet disconnected sections to collect footage. Everything people are complaining about is fake. We have plastic severed hands, corpses, skeletons, zombies, vampires, werewolves – all of these things have escaped Halloween to become commonplace, year-round entertainment marketed to every demographic. Why does a move like this then get so much heat? Why do people suddenly lose their ability to discern the difference between real acts and movie magic?
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but bares repeating ...also, when you 3 desks away from the boss 'cut and paste' is your friend :)<p> How the heck did Tom Six get funding for this??I mean, I figure when he pitched the first one to investors he probably lied his ass off with some nonsense about "representing the metaphysical struggle of 'hand-to-mouth' existence of modern man"<p> No way he said up front: "Guys, I'm going have a sicko sadist surgically ATM a bunch a folk and then we ride the hype wave of 'shock dollars' all the way to the bank - you want in?" <p> Even if that worked the first time, are you telling me that after the horseshit that was sequence one, this guy STILL got someone to bankroll his crapfest? Really??
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No film sucks more ass than M. Night's flop. That he turned a good story into such a crappy movie is unforgivable.
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I can't stand people passing judgement, especially on a film they have not seen. He hasn't hurt anyone, he just made a movie. The first movie was great, and not because of the violence, but because of the ridiculousness of it. The doctor was so over the top and hilarious and almost all of the gore was implied. This sounds like the opposite with all the gore shown, and although it seems a bit extreme even for me (and I can handle a lot) I would not pass judgement or even offer an opinion before I see it for myself. This is how book burning started.
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Would you like us to burn Catcher in the Rye for you as well?
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Some people believe that Harry Potter was the spawn of the devil (I am not religious), I thought some of them were ok and others were a little boring. People are always going to have opinion of films and as long as it is opinion and not bandwagonning then I guess we are all entitled to say our piece. I almost feel embarrassed defending my point of view so vehemently as this makes me no better than the deriders and nay-sayers. I'll see this film and then I'll give you my informed point of view on it. If you ever want to excite a conversation everytime someone makes a point of view just say 'based on?' and you'll soon weed out those that regurgitate popular opinion and those that understand how they reached the conclusion they feel so passionate about and are confident to fight for it.
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On Netflix, and was amused and a little disgusted by my own amusement. But I'm actually heartened that so many folks on AICN agree with me that, while we don't want governments to straight-out confiscate film, there is NOTHING wrong with community standards. In fact, you can't point to any community, anywhere, in any time, that didn't have rules about what does or does not belong within its boundaries. It is difficult to imagine a community anywhere that has responsibility for the welfare of its citizens that wouldn't have problems with HCII. My guess is that the majority of people protesting for the "value" of this film, or protesting that it cannot be judged without being seen (certainly a higher level of judgement can be attained...but the description alone is perfectly adequate for certain conclusions to be reached. I know a shit sandwich by the smell alone, thank you. Don't need to bite it) have no children, and have never been responsible for the welfare of anything other than themselves.
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Get over yourself, idiot. I swear, people are trying too hard to hate on this. I understand you have delicate sensibilities but it's not always sensible to air them.
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The BBFC does not ban films.
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Consider yourselves 'Unbookmarked'. This is ridiculous. There are people who toil day and night over films (be they indie or multi-million dollar) and Tom Six is clearly not one of them. He toils over making controversy for controversy's sake. Marketing. Free publicity. And you're giving it to him. You're either gullible, or have shares in this friggin movie. Joke of a film, joke of a site for supporting it. See ya, off to CHUD.
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Actually yes, with a modicum of experience, and a bit of common sense, you CAN judge a film unseen. Smurphs? Transformers 3? From Justin To Kelly? I'm sure you get the idea.. and I'll stop before I make someone throw up in their mouth a little. Simple fact of the matter is, I don't have to hang my dick in a campfire to know the experience is going to suck. This isn't an issue of censorship, it's a simple matter of contribution.. this film has no chance, possibility, or even intention of making any kind of valid contribution to the horror genre. It is simply another pointless craptastic waste of energy, resources, and time that could have been SO much better spent on any one of a thousand projects that will never see the light of day, for no other reason then the people who DO have a valid story to tell and share, will never find backing or support.
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er... so what if he is ? Many of us enjoy porno. It's not illegal. This is a work of horror fiction. Your complaint seems to be that because it is horrific it has no merit. Taken from a moral stand point the deathstar blowing up an entire planet of innocent people is pretty damned horrific but no one argues the moral implications of that because it's fiction.
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Fuck you, AICN.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST
3 mins cut is a joke! The guys at BBFC AREN'T the target audience!
by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow
We don't need bloody mollycoddling. Choose if you want to see it and either enjoy it or be disgusted but it's up to you! Boundaries are to be broken.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST
@largojr re:I don't have to hang my dick in a campfire to know the experience is going to suck.
by cobrakinte
Did you make that up yourself? Because I'm going to start using that line a lot.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST
Not even a DVD column this week. This is the worst week of this site's existence
by UltraTron
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Oct. 7, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST
Just watched basket case. Can't believe that Belial isn't more famous than Freddy Kruger.
by UltraTron
That is simply the most fucked up thing ever thought up. It's awesome. Try to top a mutant detached Siamese twin that is just a mass of high tensile muscle and teeth that screams ape shit while tearing people in half. When it comes out of the basket it is so ape-shit that it's kinda looking off in another direction- not quite looking at you. It's ape-shit extreme like nothin else. The sounds it makes- my god. Fucking amazing. If weta did it digital it would be too real and cease to be funny. It could potentially be the most nightmare inducing digital creation that you could do.
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It does the worst case scenario. It attaches to your face and starts biting your face while screaming apeshit. It is heinous. A remake just for posterity would blow away your little centipede bullshit
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Now all it has to rely on is the plot...........:)
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Oct. 7, 2011, 9:42 a.m. CST
Why not just cut together actual beheading, torture, rape footage?
by chifforobe
This is what the "horror" genre has degraded into, right? No psychological depth or real creativity-- just awful crap for people to try to watch through their fingers? Horror is supposed to be entertainment, escape, possibly a way to work through primal subconscious fears in the safety of fiction. But people actually get raped, babies actually get killed. People are probably being tortured somewhere as you read this. Is the problem that when it happens in real life you don't get to enjoy it on a big screen? Well, just cut out the middle man and bring back the "Faces of Death" franchise, see kittens being skinned at the local cineplex. Why not? Then maybe we could get some actual horror movies as well.
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It's not really healthy having these things available on a home video format is it? I mean, I know that Revenge Tragedies were very violent, but you left that violence in the theatre. Also, aren't we trying to live in less violent times? If not, shouldn't we be? The abolition of the death penalty was important, but so was the moment when executions were no longer carried out in public. Violence begets violence and so on. This is a comment on the whole world of horror that lingers on violence, and makes it into a kind of pornography. Not just aimed at this film. Whoever wrote this article. I never thought that it would be an 'important victory' to see a newborn baby being killed. Can you explain why this victory is so important? I can't quite see how it's helping the cause of free speech.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST
PRETTY SURE NO CHILDREN WERE RAPED ON SET DURING THE FILMING OF THIS MOVIE
by Darth Busey
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Oct. 7, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST
IT'S OKAY TO THINK THE MOVIE IS VERY DUMB, BUT DANGEROUS TO THINK THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO DISTRIBUTE IT
by Darth Busey
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Oct. 7, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT, DON'T PAY TO SEE IT. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO DO ANYTHING HERE.
by Darth Busey
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Oct. 7, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST
So is AICN recommending this movie? Looks kind of lame to me.
by DonkeyBalls
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If thinking that rape, torture, killing of newborns, and scatalogical excess has absolutely no artistic merit whatsoever, should be publicly ridiculed until the end of time, and is deserving of every hateful and deriding expression of disgust possible makes me a pussy, then by God I'm the biggest pussy ever.
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Due to heavy competition from "Dogs shitting on Lawns"... It's very avant-garde, a whole new spin on the 'found footage' genre.
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I saw the Smurfs with my kids, had I listened to the naysayers I would have missed out on a fun experience. I enjoyed Transformers 3. Not seen From Justin to Kelly but I wouldn't discount it. I've been going to the cinema since the first release of Star Wars, been watching videos since before video stores existed and a man in a van rented them at the end of the street. I have enough experience to know films can be made to look good and bad but I also think that you can gather information and opinion about films especially from review sources (meaning people who have actually seen it). Everything that people are criticising in this talk back is contextual because no-one knows under what circustances all these supposed horrific things occur. It may well turn out to be the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever seen in my life and you have to take the rough with the smooth. As the saying goes 'constant sunshine makes a desert'
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I have zero tolerance for pretentious black and white photography in the 21st century. You don't score bonus art points - you lose them all.
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New-comer "Man in Van Shits in Box" could really take a bite out of domestic box office receipts.
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I'm not saying that people don't have the right to distribute this movie, but just as a matter of interest, why would saying so be 'dangerous'? Is it because you think that if they censor this, then it's the thin end of the wedge? Because I profoundly disagree. You can still buy Salo, or the 120 days of Sodom. If you want to. I'm just saying that there is too much nasty stuff out there, especially now that you can watch anything and everything at home.
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that's social conditioning not common sense, come back when you know what you're talking about
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based purely on your talkback I'm guessing you know where to find and have looked at such stuff. The issues come when people can't distinguish between fact and fiction...
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Isn't that shocking? Aren't you grossed out? Isn't that sick? Please be outraged.....not enough?? Fine, barbed wire rape...BAM!!!
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What the fuck happened to the rest of my comment? Clicked submit and it only put up the last line. Oh well, shorter version of my original comment is fuck this piece of shit and any mouth breather that defends it.
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graphic sight of forced defecation into and around other people's mouths;
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST
I'm sorry, I have not seen these movies and never will, but this kind of thing is NOT anything NEW and you people are overreacting
by THE_CHOPPAH
This is just classic Exploitation/Shock cinema 101, which has been going on since the beginning of cinema. Watch the documentary called 'American Grindhouse' currently streaming on Netflix. These type of movies were always terrible and existed to serve one purpose: get asses into seats based on the promise of something exploitative and shocking. You actually fuel the result Tom Six desires with your outrage.
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I suppose that's true. I choose to ignore this drek for much better entertainment. Like watching jello congeal....
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Only a very few actually care about the merits of the film itself. Most are complaining that AICN would waste our time with story-upon-story on this nothing of a film. This shock type cinema relies on word of mouth. You can believe "Human Centipede" is NOT something I will be talking about with anyone other then in these TB's. Hopefully that's true of most of the others here.
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Or is he hooking you up with all the drugs you can ingest? Something, because fuuucking who really cares it this kurd burger got unbanned. Whoooh give a shit people this movie is awesome... c'mon, really... c'mon. Dick razor wire rape... it's edgy art... in the spirit of Bill the Cat... pttthhth.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST
lucky, fair enough, but HuffPo had this same story yesterday
by THE_CHOPPAH
and they are not a movie site. Plus, the reviews I read here were negative. That said, it is sad that this movie has gotten more media coverage than the Occupy Wall St. protests. But, that has nothing to do with AICN.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST
And honestly I'd rather see a story about this than the KardASSians
by THE_CHOPPAH
or any of the other inane media obsessions that defy logic.
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I don't read that site, but hear it quoted all the time in other 'real news' stories. It's pretty pathetic that this dreck is getting any attention at all, you're definitely right about that, Choppah.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST
To all those fucksticks saying we need to see it first....
by Jaster Mareel
This isn't a fucking Judas Priest album or Freddy Krueger film we're talking about here, this is women being bloodily raped and infants being murdered. Tell me swifty, how many hours of kiddie porn should you watch to determine whether or not it's good or bad? Have you ever put your penis in a mweat grinder? No? Why not? Why judge something you haven't tried yet? It could be your fucking nirvana!
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Oct. 7, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST
Speaking as someone who has put his penis in a mweat grinder
by THE_CHOPPAH
Don't kwock it, 'til you trwy it!
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real practical fx or CGI fx?
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The first are people who are happy with seeing fucked up shit in a movie, the more of it - the better. They value the amount violence and perversion and believe that more if it equals awesomeness. The second type are people who still value a story-line, cinematography, the work of actors or an interesting commentary on reality. They would look at violence or an intense feeling of fear as an integral tool to strengthen the film's flow. The Human Centipede 2 is only good for the first type. Such utter garbage.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST
They value the amount violence and perversion and believe that more if it equals awesomeness.
by DoctorWho?
Nailed it. It speaks volumes about the type of people who like this stuff. <p>
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST
Analogous to child porn, why not cut together atrocity footage &c., &c.
by DukeDeMondo
The folks expressing those views, do you realise, I wonder, how monumentally fucking devastating that would be, to anyone who ever suffered actual things in the actual world what exists on the far side of these MADE UP SCENARIOS you're gettin all cajangled over the head of, to know that a massive bunch of folks think that what they went through is IN ANY WAY comparable to the pretend events performed by actors for the sake of a fictional horror film? Again, for all the talk of morality on here, the ethics of far too many of the "down with this sort of thing" crowd are fuckin unbelievable. Wishin eternal damnation on someone for pointin a camera at a bunch o - at the very least - meme fodder he came up with one day, with no one involved being injured or hurt or exploited in any way... Equating the unimaginable suffering of real life humans in our historical world with a bunch o hysterical old nonsense going on on a film set... Christ beside me...
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One who loves the black and white classics AND suspense films AND gross outs with lots of gore. Why does everything have to be an either/or? That's why this country is so fucked up, that kind of thinking.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST
For the third film Six should have some looney make a human centipede consisting of....(WARNING!! Read no further if u are under the age of 18 or if disturbing thoughts give u nightmares)...
by Marlboroliteman
Brian Cox as the head of the centipede followed by Harry Knowles, then Aston Kutcher, Richard Rountree, Ryan Seacrest, O.J. Simpson, Brett Ratner, Hank Williams Jr, Cris Brown, Mc G, Bobby Brown, David Spade, Jean Claude Van Dam, Marv Albert, Billy Bush, Will Smith, Tom Debergeron, Vanilla Ice, Justin Beiber, Maksim Chmerkovskiy, Roland Emmerich, Carlos Mencia, Michael Bay, Dean Devlin, Paul W. S. Anderson, Jesse James, Kid Rock, and Colby Donaldson.
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LOL, 'Send this twat Six off to Afghanistan' -get a grip, it's afilm Mary Whitehouse. you the Daily Mail right?
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It seems like an exercise in trying to shock people that can never be shocked by definition.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
ravenloff, Jane's Addiction wrote a great song Nothing's Shocking
by THE_CHOPPAH
HC2 is proof of that song's prescience.
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The actors are playing pretend. No one really gets hurt. After their syringes-in-eyeballs-granny-barbwire-fisting-scene, they sit around the set and laugh while having a natter about what they're having for lunch. While this film isn't my cup of tea as I find torture porn type stuff rather samey and boring, I don't think it should be banned or derided as some unholy 'OMG!, think of the children! work. A lot of films are shit but they still should be allowed to be made and watched. Just stop getting so hysterical over a shit 'horror' film that relies on shock and gross-out tactics to grab peoples interest and go and see Don't be Afraid of the Dark or something instead. A proper horror film. ;)
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Opinions are a lot like assholes, every-bodies got one, but they rarely are willing to pull their head out of one to retrieve the other.
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I refuse to see this until I find a way to obtain the uncut version, which I'm sure won't be hard to do once six months to a year pass! Removing the defecation into mouths in Human Centipede is like taking the cannibals out of Cannibal Holocaust, or the incest reveal at the end out of Oldboy, or the splinter through the eye out of Zombie! I simply won't have it! You hear me!? I won't have it!
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In order...I fall into both camps too, I love the original psycho as much as hatchet or tetsuo. Deadstar, not everything is black and white there are many, many shades of grey. The more grey you see the better your persepective on things. Wrath of Fett (first off, you're a cunt) whilst I may be one of those fucksticks you refer to I'll defend my position and opinion by saying you're one of those lazy fucking bastards who jump on the fucking bandwagon and spew forth your uneducated opinion. Who says it's a woman who gets raped? You say infants, last I heard it was singular. As I said earlier it's all contextual the pre and post natal infant trauma whilst uncomfortable to watch, I'm sure, may have it's place in the film. I wouldn't know as I haven't seen it yet. Let me finish off by saying that I've been around a bit, worked in the health service and even seen a person die right in front of me. When you understand the true value and fragility of human life you can start to see the humour in fantasy violence...grow a brain and keep your stupid cunting, immature thoughts to yourself...fuckwit
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Ok.. that was weird.. it cut off everything but the last line I posted in my reply to you. What I said was . Yeah.. I've been using that for years.. along with --- and what came next was all that just posted above this.. weird. You can send me a fresh Oreo every time you use it and I'll consider the licensing fee paid.
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based on?
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Amuses me.
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Actually, the song is Ted, Just Admit it, from the album Nothing's Shocking. Sorry to be a perfectionist but they are one of my favorites.
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I have a feeling that this is how I'm going to feel after I've seen this film. I suspect the film is in B&W not for atmospherics but because the director knew that when blood isn't blood coloured you can a lot more past the censors, this is the reason the house of flying leaves in Kill Bill had the colour filter applied. Now Man Bites Dog, that was kind of artsy in it's time but tame by comparison today. I think the producers of Saw could learn a lot from this talkback...
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST
Chopster....your point about the KardASSians...?
by Damned if I can login
Damn dude....hard to argue that one.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST
How the hell did that question mark get in there???
by Damned if I can login
Bloody lack of text editor....mumble grumble...
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I've been awake now for nearly 26 hours, when I'm this tired I'm in no state to argue...and I swear a lot more. I'll sleep on it and see how I feel in the morning. Thanks to those who exercised my brains for a little bit and fuck off to those without the balls to validate their points of view, CUNTS!
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Those who think there are two kinds of people in this world, and those who don't.
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The rebellious streak in me is curious to see if we can get this to the top of the talkback chain, we're half way there. Let's start posting irrelevant chatter (not that different to what's already happening) and see how we get on. There's a special prize to the funniest post.
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Now that is darkly humorous...I'm beyond tired now so I feel like I can keep this going
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I applaud the perspective of your comments. People feigning outrage over a fictional entity is pretentious and frankly, pathetic. Unfortunately many people are content to regurgitate popular opinion these days at the expense of honesty. Taking everything out of context/wishing harm or death upon someone for creating provocative or sensationalist art/insulting those who wish to make up their own minds on what is acceptable...not exactly the type of people you could hope to hold a reasonable conversation with. If you don't see the film your criticism is invalid.
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Night night little ones...
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What should we talk about?
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I got sort of bored, I never watched it all.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST
how about the most scared you've ever been in real life?
by the_man_with_two_brains
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It was a slow starter but rewarding towards the end...
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They told the usual story if the creepy axe murderer's ghost who lived in an abandoned house on the property, and a few nights later one of them dressed up as the murderer and scared the shit out of everyone.
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was on patrol in a wooded area in Paderborn, Germany. It was so dark you had to grab the belt of the guy in front to navigate. There's something very ominous about total darkness. It's why The Blair Witch freaks me out
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Oct. 7, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
I'm sure the guy who's belt you were grabbing was much more scared then you, 2Brains.
by Lucky13
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I mean, it WAS dark.
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You're right. My bad! They are great! I saw them in '91 with NIN opening up for them at the Universal in LA tripping my balls off! Best show I ever went to!
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LMMFAO!
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People get furious and react with a very negative attitude towards a work of FICTION,because it has characters in A2M position and that somehow prevents them from sleeping at nights even if they havent watched it. Oh wait,they CAN sleep at nights even if they have watched it. Still the bash a geek movie site simply because it is doing its job to announce news about an upcoming movie,which,you guessed it,is a fucking GENRE movie. A First World Problem indeed.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
= It was so dark you had to grab the belt of the guy in front to navigate.=
by KilliK
as long as you didnt have to grab his dick...
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LET THE CRIMINALS RUN FREE AND NEVER BE IDENTIFIED! You goddamn RETARD.
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those type of shenanigans went on back in the barracks or on R&R...still you're right it was dark so who knows
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we made it to number one, the subversive in me wants to keep this going for a while (sorry about the pauses, I needed a power nap)
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Oct. 7, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
those geeky cunts on the dr who talkback are catching up
by the_man_with_two_brains
come on guys, rally around the HC2 talk back
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The news of Aronofsky's Noah project, his dream project, being greenlit was reported days ago...and not a fucking sliver of a mention on this pathetic site.
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welcome to AICN
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me stamping the last breath out of your body
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Oct. 7, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
just got confirmation this fucker goes on demand Oct 14th!
by JackSlater4
so m now anual Human Centipede viewing party will proceed as planned, barf bags on hand.
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Oct. 7, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST
just got confirmation this fucker goes on demand Oct 14th!
by JackSlater4
so m now anual Human Centipede viewing party will proceed as planned, barf bags on hand.
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Think of all those people who will stumble across the movie and go crazy and rape innocent babies!
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been coming here over 10 years,only recently started posting. i dont like this place......
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The amount of attention AICN gives these utterly worthless films is actually pretty insulting. So many good stories, film news and interesting topics have been scooped by other sites because AICN wanted to focus on "polarizing" bullshit. Have some standards guys. The TALKBACKs are supposed to be where the low class stupid shit gets talked about, not the articles.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 1:53 a.m. CST
Anyone who defends the Human Centipede indulges in Child Porn.
by ganymede3010
Yeah I said it. Child porn, Torture porn, are equivalent in terms sadistic depravity.
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You're just a gay bastard. Enjoy being prissy for the rest of your days
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I'm bullshitting of course. 0 stars--and I can't believe he even reviewed it. This site pushing people to see it though--in article after article--makes me wonder what the admins do in their spare time--and what dirt Tom Six has on Harry.
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The first film was boring as fuck . The director has some serious fucking issues . Anyone who buys or backs this piece of shit needs to seriously re think their lives . The only good thing about the first film was that it inspired the south park episode . By the way anyone who defends that piece of shit serbian film can fuck off as well . Oh and fuck me too for evening watching the first centipede film lol
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I have read the above, and I have to ask, based upon how people have also felt about seeing the film - do people actually want to watch this? Why would people want to watch this kind of sick rubbish? I beg of Harry, whoever - do you really want to keep thrusting this kind of garbage down people's throats? Why are you doing this? And on another point - next weekend sees the release of The Thing in the US - why no reviews yet? If Universal want to keep the film hidden from reviewers fine - but that is a film related to a far greater film, than the Human Centipede. You know it, and I know it.
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Because it's a wasteful train-wreck of a movie... Poorly written, wrongly cast, badly acted, and shitty effects. The reason why Harry (or anyone ELSE at AICN) hasn't been going on about it and giving it a 'shot like he has all this other shit, is 'Thing' has a vested street cred at stake for him and the rest.. where as the other shit coming out & bandied is just more crap with a modest fee attached for his support.
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Oct. 8, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST
ganymede i picture you as a giant ginger vagina that spews shit like duck president
by JackSlater4
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Oct. 8, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST
Jackslater I picture you as the fecal matter disseminating from a condom after a gay porn shoot!
by ganymede3010
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sounds like you know the subject well
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this one goes out to all the fuckwits who are keen to make a statement with no back-up and are then too scared to have a rational debate, I'm appalled that there are so many people one here who find it easy to name call, make wild assumptions and then not respong when called out. Arsewipes the lot of you. I'm not a clever guy, give me a go!
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So show me a little respect boy because I might just be your daddy!
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Never been more impressed by AICN readers than reading this talkback.
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fuck me, is that your attempt at being threatening? If you weren't so laughably immature I think I would get a small amount of pleasure beating the living piss out of you. and unless you're necrophiliac and can also defy the laws of time there isn't a chance. Now fuck off back to your room and give me shout when your balls have dropped you cunt.
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Oct. 9, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST
From what I've heard about this movie, why would anyone want to watch it anyway?
by ChickenStu
Sounds fucking gross.
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it's to do with choice, too many people in this talkback pander to the sort of people who would see films like this one banned, witness the stupidity of the people who link this film with paedophilia and see what rational, well-balanced people are up against
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a large proportion people who would like to see films like this banned live their lives according to a work of fiction...yes i mean the bible
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along with piece of crap "movies" like the one described in this article. It used to be cool, but that was about a decade or so ago. I just hope kids wandering in for docbacks don't stumble around in here too much. Adios muchachos
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Submit a film that they know ill not get a certificate, they have a knowledge of what gets passed and what doesn't - they see how much press A Serbian Film got when similar happened and they submit a film that they know point blank will not pass as it stands. It doesn't get a certificate and much moral gnashing of teeth starts in and around the UK - 'Evil Filth Banned' and so on and so forth. After a suitable period of time passes they submit a new cut that has the subsequent suggested edits made and the film gets a certificate. So, now everyone knows the MOST EVIL FILM SINCE THAT LAST MOST EVIL FILM IN HISTORY tm is being released and go to see it or rent it out so they can wallow in the filth and degradation or so they can champion and support a truly 'visionary and brave film maker' Now, that's marketing for you.
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That this film is getting far too much coverage - if this hadn't been refused certificate then AICN would be giving it less than a tenth of the coverage that it's getting now. As soon as something gets 'banned!!!!' it develops a potency and iconography that it often doesn't deserve. If you look at most of the films banned in Britain under the notorious 'Video Nasties' purge 99% of them were terrible amateurish shite. This isn't an important film in anyway whatsoever - it was submitted and didn't get a certificate and then it was resubmitted. Wow - what a journey.
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I think I have a bit of a unique perspective on this particular issue. I'm a Brit and it's very rare that a film is refused classification here. It's such a rare occurence, that it's difficult to form a cohesive opinion on the issue. For me at least anyway... The question I ask isn't really about the censorship issue, it's more about why the film was made in the first place. From what I've heard, this movie goes very fucking far, and makes "Hostel" look like fucking Sesame Street in comparison. With scenes of kids heads getting crushed, and barbed wire rape - what kind of weirdo comes up with scenarios like that? And why try to pass it off as entertainment? Who wants to make that kind of shit, who wants to see it? The scariest thing for me, is that there's actually an audience somewhere for this. I guess you could say that about a great many disturbing movies (Irreversible, for example) - but from what I can gather, this new movie we're talking about has crossed some kind of line. I'm certainly not going to watch it. Last night I read that the director is planning a third one, and he's been bragging saying things like "You think 1 and 2 were bad, wait till you see 3 - it's REALLY going to upset people!" I just think "Why do this? What's the point?" Does he want to entertain or repulse? Cause if the answer's the latter, he probably shouldn't be making movies and probably needs his head looked at. That's all I've got.
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I'm a brit too, I saw the first film and enjoyed it because it didn't take itself seriously. I suspect this film might be a load of rubbish but I'll give it a go (thanks to my unlimited card I no longer care if films are shite and I can always walk out). If people could read beyond headlines and wait until they get a few reviews from sources they trust then we can all start to formulate an opinion on whether the film is any good. I understand your point of view on the director but I suspect he is riding on the crest of publicity and his future in film making may very well be short lived.
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Never saw the first one, I don't really do horror movies. I hope I don't come across like one of these people who formulate an opinion without seeing something... ... but by the same token I really cannot understand how someone could find something like this entertaining. Your comments about the director are spot on. He's living proof that Andy Warhol was right...
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Horror is a strange medium because it rarely does what it implies (horrifies), I prefer creepy to gore but my film tastes are very eclectic. I'm very wary about the sequel because it seems that the deliberate attempt to court controversy has given this film too many column inches. The 'entertaining' question is a perplexing one because the first film was entertaining because it was absurd and a good pastiche of old school video nasties. I suspect the second one may try too hard to shock rather than continue with the absurdity; I guess I'll know when I've seen it. Tom Six appears to be shoe-horning as many taboos as is possible into the sequel and probably sees this as his legacy to the world. And yes, Andy Warhol was spot on...
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Was just discussing this with my wife. We both agree that horror is more tasteful AND effective when things are implied more than shown. Alien is far more disturbing than Alien: Resurrection - and yet nowhere near as gory. When people like Six deliberately court controversy in this manner, they shoot themselves in the foot. Yeah, they get some column inches and stuff, but it's a flash in the pan and the subterfuge doesn't last. Whole thing sounds absolutely revolting. I think 9 out of 10 moviegoers go watch a film simply to be entertained. It is, after all, what the medium was created for. Six has made it very clear he wants to disgust people. For no other reason than the fact that he can. This is why he won't last.
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I've got a soft spot for found footage horror, Blair Witch is a good exercise in how creepy can be done well. I love cinema as a medium and thankfully get to see most films including my fair share of kids films. Cinema shocks, entertains and informs (sadly sometimes it bores as well). I will say though that rubbish films make the better ones seem so much more enjoyable by comparison!
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While that may be true, then that also implies that no filmmaker should do any type of film that's not just an "entertainment." Like, for instance, a lot of people hated Drive...it could have been done more conventionally and thus more "entertainingly," but does every movie need to be like that? Rush Hour 2 is the very definition of an entertaining movie that 9 out of 10 people could enjoy, and I liked it too...but life is more than that. Also speaking to horror being more tasteful when everything is implied...well yeah...but who wants EVERY horror movie to be tatseful? Night of the Living Dead didn't become a classic by being tasteful. Tasteful can also mean bland and boring.
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2 minutes 37 seconds hacked out of it. Fuck the BBFC!!!
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There's really no right or wrong here. I'm not saying be conventional at all times (I fucking ADORE "Drive")... I just feel boundaries can be pushed whilst still being tasteful. The majority of audiences won't admit they want that, but they actually do. The question for me is who wants to go see a movie knowing that they're going to see a newborn baby's head get crushed? Where the fuck is the entertainment in that?
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I can see that, but why of all genres should horror have to be tatseful? Of course you don't want every movie to be Human Centipede or Nekromantik, but there's room under the horror umbrella for everything. This movie serves the same purpose that Faces of Death did back in the day...something horrible that makes you squirm and then to tell your frinds about. And there's plenty of entertainment in that for some people. Not everyone of course. But how much entertainment would most find in the original Solaris? Not much, I'd think. But there's those select few that it works for. Have you seen a short film called Treevenge? Made by the guys who did Hobo with a shotgunm, in which several children are killed by Christmas trees. I couldn't imagine anyone would be too horribly offended by that movie. Or what about Troma, they always killed kids. I think context mans a lot, when they ran over a kid in Toxic Avenger it was pretty hilarious.
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When all the kneejerk idiots have left the talkbacks it seems sensible discussion breaks out. mrgiant I applaud your understanding of the genre and chickenstu I applaud ability to put forward a reasoned argument...
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It's just a shame no one can come up with a reason for this madness.
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