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AMC says of “Crawl Space”:

Walt takes drastic action to protect his secret and Gus. Skyler's efforts to solve Ted's financial problems hit a wall.

If you thought the tequila-soaked Mexican bloodbath of “Salut” meant that, with the cartel effectively neutered, things would quiet down for the “Breaking Bad” players this week, you couldn’t be more wrong.

Fans should steel themselves tonight  for another huge, violent, badass episode, one with a massive surfeit of quotable lines.

More in the text invisible.

* “Crawl Space” begins in Mexico, mere minutes after “Salut.”

* Expect to see less of Mike The Ex-Cop going forward. Expect to see a lot more of Mike’s increasingly sinister associate Tyrus.

* We learn Mike’s last name this week. (It may or may not mean “honorable man of trust” in German.)

* Expect more face time with mute, wheelchair-bound Hector this week.

* Expect things to really escalate with Hank Schrader this week.

* Rejoice as Saul dispatches his “A Team.” I am in fucking love with Saul’s “A Team.” I want to marry them. Half of Saul’s “A Team” is comprised of the mammoth Huell, played by “Last Comic Standing” vet Lavell Crawford.

* Great line: “I kinda liked the plane.”

* Great line: “Write. It.”

* Great line: “Huell, you happy?”

* Great line: “Phone call time is over!”

* How does it end, spoiler boy? With Walter White laughing hysterically.

10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.

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  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:38 a.m. CST

    AHHH!!! Cannot wait!

    by gotilk

    The suspense may actually be killing me. Check my BP and it's through the roof after that clip. Okay, maybe not, but it sounded good. Last week pretty much blew my mind. Best US show.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:38 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    should have said *checkED*. I hate wireless keyboards.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:41 a.m. CST

    I tried to look up Herc's seemingly googlable spoiler clue

    by ShamelessElitist

    But it only found this very page.

  • Rest In Peace :(

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:58 a.m. CST

    No way, not Mike.

    by alan_poon

    Don't think Herc means he's getting killed off.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:11 a.m. CST


    by mukhtabi

    Personally I suspect this means Mike is probably hospitalized somewhere, and it's gonna take him a long while to get back on his feet. He was shot up pretty bad in Salud...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:14 a.m. CST


    by mukhtabi

    I imagine they're dispatched to handle Ted Beneke...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST


    by Extr3m1st

    Hey dickhead post spoilers correctly, not in the fracking header. And yes even Herc's lame spoilers need to be notated with * SPOILER *

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Couldn't Skyler just....

    by tangcameo

    ...go to the IRS and pay the bill for that jerk?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Never fear! I have "Writer's Digest Character Naming Sourcebook"

    by tangcameo

    I will look it up!

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    I know Mike's name!

    by tangcameo

    And so Herc doesn't kick me out, I'm keeping it to myself. Although by Herc's definition, it's a mouthful.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Mike's surname is -->

    by Wookie_Weed

    Hitler. Yes, he's the son of Adolf Hitler, who didn't hide in Brazil but lived in New Mexico where he was subjected to bizarre experiments in Los Alamos. It ties in with Gus Fring being the bastard child of Chile's General Pinochet.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:14 a.m. CST

    I wonder.

    by gotilk

    Is it Osgood?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    or maybe

    by gotilk


  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST


    by Mugato5150

    The whole point is that she doesn't want the IRS to know she has money unless it' laundered.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:18 a.m. CST

    It's not Burgermaster is it?

    by alan_poon

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST

    can't wait

    by JaredP

    i will steel myself for the death of a major character tonight

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    I swear....

    by gotilk

    if German for *honorable man of trust* ends up being COX I will laugh so hard I'll poop my spleen.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    @mugato But couldn't she do something like the Great Aunt scheme

    by tangcameo

    Have Saul show up at the IRS claiming he's Ted's lawyer and on behalf of Ted he's presenting them with what he owes them with some kind of apology.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Wow. Sorry for the ranting. Was high on coffee.

    by tangcameo

    So if Mike is Mike Hitler, and and Gus is Gus Pinochet, does that make Jesse one of the Boys From Brazil?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    I'll groan if his name turns out to be Erlenmeyer

    by tangcameo

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    A Team

    by mascan42

    Does this mean a return for Bill Burr?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Not trying to be "that guy", but last weeks ep was

    by brechtsky

    Called salud, not salut

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST


    by JaredP

    salud and salut mean the same thing

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST

    *SPOILERS* in this post, non-Herc ones...

    by PotSmokinAlien

    So, the New York Times printed an article about this season of BB the week before 4.1 aired. And it described the action from a couple of scenes (from the perspective of the writer watching as the scenes were being filmed) that we still haven't seen yet. Now that the season is almost over they seem more spoilery than ever. So if you wanna go in fresh stop reading......... One of them involved a young Latino man with sunglasses showing up at Hank's house. The other was Jesse being repeatedly hit with a taser on the sidewalk by his house. I was expecting to see these scenes early in the run of this season, considering the freakin' NYT gave them away before any of it had aired, but the more episodes pass without either of these things happening the more weight they seem to carry...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:19 a.m. CST

    For the curious, here's the link

    by PotSmokinAlien

    It's a good article, spoilers or no: art-of-breaking-bad.html?_r=1&sq=breaking%20bad&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=1&adxnnlx= 1316963908-AvZ+sVCY5jfMCxq4OeOc9g

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Mikes name is....

    by Yeti

    Burgermiester Miesterburger

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11 a.m. CST


    by rabidrudolph

    wonder if walt could take out ted (after he finds out about this) and somehow plant enough evidence to make hank think ted was the guy behind the blue and not gus. he was another rich guy like gus whose company could be a front for something -- and just came into a bunch of money right before the big play in mexico. could be enough circumstantial evidence, and then if walt planted all that money at ted's place . . . don't think it will happen, would still probably put heat on skylar, but if you could kill the guy who slept with your wife, and frame him for being a drug dealer, and manage to get hank distracted, it would probably explain some hysterical laughter in the end.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    where's more the boardwalk empire post herc?

    by JaredP

    it premieres tonight ya know

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I dont want Mike to die

    by sunwukong86

    He's the best supporting character on the show. Id rather they kill off Marie. She's gotten to the point where she doesnt add anything to the show

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    *Spoilers*, I guess-- More like my guess based on Herc's Spoilers...

    by WalterWhite

    Here's how I think it will go: I think Mike will live, but clearly he's going to be out for a little while due to his wounds and this shows surprisingly short time frame. Gus will die tonight. Mark my words, it's going to happen and in my best estimation, tonight is the night. I'm hoping I kill him, but more likely I'm probably just laughing maniacally from hearing the news. Is Mike related to another character on the show, maybe? Could it be Mike Beneke, which as we all know means "honoroable man of trust" in German? Mike Schrader, Hank's long lost ex-cop cousin?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Hank's the one I'm worried about

    by PotSmokinAlien

    I really thought he was toast at the end of One Minute, until he wasn't. It sorta feels like he's living on borrowed time since then. A few epsiodes ago there was a shot of him hobbling through the DEA's downstairs lobby in silhouette and he looked so friggin vulnerable... It was easy to imagine a similar shot later in the series of him hobbling far more urgently away from his impending doom... But yeah, I hope Mike's still around for s5 too. And Marie! I for one found that kleptomania/compulsive lying episode weirdly touching, and if she died it's hard to imagine it not totally destroying Hank (and not in a very compellingly watchable way). Nobody has to die for me to be satisfied with the end of this season, I guess is what I'm saying here. As long as the level of writing and direction is as high as it's been for the past 2 seasons I'll be real happy.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    *possible spoiler* Given the observation about Hector

    by mukhtabi

    I would not be surprised if Gus convalesced in the nursing home where Hector resides...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    So incredibly fucking excited for tonight!

    by Lee

    I don't even want to contemplate what might happen. Every episode has defied expectation so far; at this point in the season, all I can envisage is the rough shape of the final season. Once Gus is out if the picture, surely it has to be Jessie, after embracing the bad finally, who'll be positioned as Walt's counter-part. Besides that, Boardwalk Empire returns.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    **Spoiler - tweet from an actor who is on tonight.

    by Cosmik

    Comedian Bill Burr tweeted he has "a quick scene in tonight's episode". We last saw him as the fake EPA agent Saul provided Skyler to motivate the sale of the car wash. Apparently one of Saul's ream team?

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Jesse in the final season

    by PotSmokinAlien

    I still think Jesse's ultimate role in the show is to provide the counterpoint to Walt's trajectory of decency to corruption— Jesse I'm hoping has been taking the opposite path this whole time, from corruption to decency. As Walter's repression has been his ultimate undoing, Jesse's irrepressable nature will set him free... I hope.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    "Honorabe man of trust"...

    by dr.ivo


  • Sept. 25, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by Lee

    Here's hoping. Considering Walt's complete destruction of everything he's touched over the last year, I can see Jessie's story being a tragedy.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Herc is wrong Mike's last name is Dudemeister

    by Xiphos_2

    Which is German for master of dudes.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST


    by PotSmokinAlien

    With Walter's story already being such a tragedy, I'd like to think Jesse's gonna be able to provide a little redemption into the narrative as a whole... The show's view of humans and their capability for change doesn't seem bleak enough for both of its main characters to end up tragically. But I'm sure we're both aware of how futile it is to predict the direction BB is heading... It's just as likely the last season will focus on Skylar and the baby on the run with Saul in tow as comic relief...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    this episode

    by JaredP

    will probably be hector's last, seeing as gus has killed the cartel leaders

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    this episode

    by JaredP

    will probably be hector's last, seeing as gus has killed the cartel leaders

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    i don't think bluStar Wars is advertised enough

    by rben

    George Lucas gotta eat!!!

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, totally.

    by Lee

    I'm not even going to bother second guessing the show, anymore, and I'd like to subscribe to your take on things. Makes thematic sense, an it's probably the end I'd be happiest with. On the other hand, I've got this lurking feeling of dread. To be absolutely truthful though, I'm just superimposing the same theory I have for Hank onto Jessie. I was absolutely certain he was dead at the end of One Minute, after his revelations during that episode. One of them's going to be Manny, I'm sure of it.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    wont die until the season finale, if you ask me

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    I'm guessing we learn Mike's last name at his funeral...

    by JethroBodine

    and that we only see him again in flashbacks. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. I probably am. Because how could his death be explained to the people who might be at his funeral, with him being an ex-cop and all? Bah, that's just me spitballin'. Guess we'll find out tongiht.

  • but if your screename was meant as an homage to "The Professional (Leon)", Gary Oldman actually says... "Bring me everyone".

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 4:56 p.m. CST

    It is, tritium.

    by Lee

    ...but I didn't think the direct quote worked well as a handle. GetEveryone has served me pretty well. If Beaks hadn't banned it back in the day for god knows what, it wouldn't have to have that godforsaken period in it.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    @get.everyone -- I see, got it. Cheers, mate.

    by tritium

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    It's not "Erlenmeyer," but you're in the ballpark.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Ah. So his name is

    by obi_juan

    Mike Flask.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by Jambi


  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I'm probably wrong...

    by Manatee

    but I always had the feeling that Hector would be the last man "standing." Dude is a survivor and too mean to die. Of course, I'll probably be proven wrong tonight, when Gus wheels him out of the hospital and directly into a hole in the desert.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    LOL obi_juan!

    by PotSmokinAlien

    Mike Graduated Cylinder

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST


    by PotSmokinAlien

    The ol' pool-pissing nephew-drowner has lived through quite a bit, it's true. I'd be surprised if he dies before we learn how he got in that chair though. (Although as I type that I remember that a full season passed before we were treated to the backstory of Tortuga's beheading, so who knows.)

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    Jesse isn't exactly a counterpoint to Walt's character. He started off as a low level meth dealer, now he's a cold-blooded murder. They're both making their lives worse and worse as time goes on.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Best episode EVER

    by memento108

    Holy. Fucking. Shit.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Well, that was a legendary TV episode you just saw folks

    by proevad

    That ending will be talked about 20 years from now.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    We just watched a series finale-caliber episode with 18 more to go.

    by memento108

    Fuck me.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Hole. E. Shit.

    by Wolfman Nards

    Welp, looks like we've found our Joker for the Batman reboot.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST

    wolfman, our minds are linked

    by memento108

    You nailed it sir. EXACT thing I thought.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST


    by Wolfman Nards

    My next thought was about how that easily could've been the final shot of the show. Great minds, great minds...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST


    by joe bouganim

    that was fucking awesome.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST


    by Mike Fornes

    Best tv I've ever seen.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Holy smokes

    by PotSmokinAlien

    I'm reeling from that. Bryan Cranston is one of the best actors I've ever seen in anything. Words are failing me. That ending. The laughter— it's echoing in my head.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST


    by bourne7855

    i havent been that tense during any show ever during the last couple minutes. gus has gotta go, he threatened to kill walts infant daughter. this show is amazing. that ending scene was just insane

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST


    by Therawbeats

    So fucking intense!

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST

    jesus, when is the pacing gonna pickup???

    by antimcgyver

    No, that was the tensest ending of any season finale i've ever seen. and it wasnt a season finale. it was like poetry. I wonder how long the writers this development planned. episodes like this make me a little less depressed im not fulfilling my fanatsy of writing tv shows, because breaking bad proves i could never compete. where are the hispanic-assasin/girfriend loving breaking bad haters now??

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST


    by PotSmokinAlien

    Yeah, I think you're right. It's probably time for me to let that idea go— it's one I've been clinging to since the middle of season 2.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by Lashlarue

    Greatest Breaking Bad Ending Ever!

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    That ending

    by Therawbeats

    The whole episode was gold, but Jesus.... Skyler slowly pulling back as she realizes Walt is cackling instead of weeping...the look on her face, as Stephen King likes to say, would be comical if not for the situation. So disturbing. And then just to hear Walt's lunatic laughter as Marie is crying on the phone. Damn...just amazing. I'm watching the encore now.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    What the fuck else could the writers have up their sleeves?

    by Wolfman Nards

    I'm excited and terrified at the thought that the season finale will top this.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Seriously— how the fuck did Cranston DO THAT???

    by PotSmokinAlien

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST

    So Skylar gave Ted...

    by Jeff B Demented

    How much? I'm guessing a lot...

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Kinda stunned ...

    by JFilm101

    ... by that ending. Holy crap! Everytime I think it cannot possibly get worse for Walt and Skyler it does. As the whirlpool of Walt's questionable decisions really begin to inexorably pull everyone he cares about down the drain with him he realizes, too late, that he is past the point of no return. After last week and this one I have to say Gus is the most iconic bespectacled badass since Clarence J Boddicker! Just that cold gaze and those subtle facial gestures, so calculating. Still processing tonight's episode.

  • Now I'm thinking its the IRS that will literally be the death of some or all of the principles. Not the cartel, not Gus, not the DEA. The motha fuckin Tax Man. Bravo, Skyler, Bravo.

  • The dude always has an ace up his sleeve when the White family comes knocking.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    good call jfilm101 on the Clarence Boddicker comparison

    by dahveed1972

    he was one of several reasons why Robocop was more than just a b movie gore fest. with guns. both the bad guys in that movie were really good.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11 p.m. CST

    Saul's 'Go-To Disappear Guy'

    by Sick Fixx

    is probably someone working for Gus.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST


    by monolithik

    Is ruining television. Everything else just keeps getting smaller and smaller in this show's rear-view mirror. Absolutely fuckin' brilliant. 11 straight episodes of almost too carefully and gingerly putting all of the chess pieces into place... only to blow them up with a firecracker, heh. Very well played. And HOT DAMN. We still have 2 to go!

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    There's TV & Movies & then there's Breaking Bad...

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    And TV & Movies look up to Breaking Bad with slack jaws. For all you fucking morons who complain about the pace, I hope you realized they had been setting up this payoff since last season. The Sopranos look like Scooby Doo & Friends next to this. The real talent on that show was Gilligan, not Chase. When Chase's movie debut comes out we'll all realize who the brains behind everything was. Gilligan is Walt I imagine. Anyway, the ending of the episode tonight was beyond my expectations. It was like Walt turned into the Heath Ledger Joker before our eyes. Once Saul made the anonymous call, Walt realized his family is dead now that the money is gone. His reaction? We've never seen something that complex and disturbing on TV before. Maybe Jack on Lost came w/in 1000 yards of it a couple of times. Still, this episode will go guarantee Cranston an Emmy as long he plays this character and is eligible to be nominated. There's nothing else like this on TV. What an incredible show. And for the record, I have no clue where they go for the rest of this season and series from here. That's what makes this the best show on TV probably ever.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:19 p.m. CST


    by JFilm101

    Ever since season 3 where he was keeping Tuco's twin cousins from touching Walter that was the immediate comparison that came to my mind. You just knew Gus could be vicious if necessary (as he'd have to be to survive in that world) and had that ability to flip the switch and do what must be done by his own hand. As far as memorable villains with glasses I'll have to think on the list ...

  • Hank's UNDER-reaction to the accident, plus several odd glances, plus the fact that he SHOULD be suspicious at this point, makes me think I may have underestimated him. And damned if this want the writers' plan all along.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Great Stuff

    by TheRevenge

    Simply an amazing episode. Great stuff, all around. Makes me take back saying how last week's ep was slow. All is forgiven. The finale could have been a season-ending cliffhanger. It really had that kind of tension. And we've still got...what? Two episodes left this season? Simply amazing. Walt is gonna whip out some balls and really become Heisenberg next week. Can't wait.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST


    by gotilk


  • Sept. 25, 2011, 11:58 p.m. CST

    So, I guess you're all going to be pretty pissed to learn ...

    by Epsilon

    ... that Walt actually died on the operating table in Season 2, and everything since then has been a "sideways" reality.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by clupula

    I literally laughed out loud when I read that. Not as loudly or as maniacally as Walt, though. On a serious note, though, there is no other show in the history of television I can think of where I was so in the dark about what's going to happen next. This show never stops surprising and I have absolutely no idea what will happen. All I know is that it's not going to be pleasant.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Dang it Epsilon! SPOILER ALERT!!! hahahhaha

    by Dogmatic

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Hank can't be on to Walt.

    by Mugato5150

    He'd have to know that he, Skyler and his wife would be in danger and he'd do something.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    NO idea how this plays out...b/c we got a WHOLE season to go...

    by Dogmatic

    So, OBviously Walt and Jesse are gonna make it thru....but all bets are OFF on everyone else....Walt's whole family ain't gonna buy it but one of em might! Gus GOTTA go down seems the only way to go is for Gus to die (and Tyrus of course) and Walt and Jesse take over the business but then that just feels like a major jump in logic for Walt to wanna be a genuine druglord unLESS he has nothing else to live for and something goes really dark for him? Any other thoughts on where the final SIXTEEN episode season can go OTHER than this route?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST

    These desires to see a return of "Heisenberg"

    by gotilk

    honestly, now feel like some weird adolescent revenge/hero fantasy. I think we're beyond that now, and we will find a much more practical, darker Walt on *this side* of events.. The Heisenberg thing almost felt like some sort of egotistical persona he created to become something he desired rather than what he or his family needed. It was selfish, motivations aside. Yes he wants to do well for his family, but you cannot deny that he was getting an almost sexual thrill from being what he was never able to be before. The assumption was always that he was in over his head. Maybe he's not. And that is VERY fascinating viewing. And Jessie. As far back as season one, I was almost yelling at the screen... just give this kid a sense of accomplishment, some tiny morsel of approval, and he could become something more than what he was ever expected to be. But no, Walt never even gave him the slightest nod of approval. Those chickens are coming back now. And bitch, they are roosting. This is truly one of the best stories ever told on TV. They took the conversation many have over after dinner, with close friends. REALLY close friends, trusted ones. The question "what would you do if you knew your time was limited?" and turned that simple concept into fantastic storytelling and character. And , well, this is closer to what would really happen than any after-dinner conversation fantasy. Perhaps this is what desperation really looks like, and what villains really are. A challenge, almost spitting in the face of our coping mechanism of "good and evil". It just doesn't get any better than this.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:31 a.m. CST

    And can you believe my DVR guide labels this a COMEDY-Drama show???

    by Dogmatic

    I mean, it DOES certainly have comedic elements even in a heavy show like this such as the hilarious way that the Ted problem was "solved" and Hank just panicking and wrecking on purpose....BUT the whole Gus staring down wheelchair man and telling him he has wiped out his whole family including his grandson so his name dies with him and the whole cattle-prodding a soon-thinking-hes-dead-for-sure Walt while he's already down and the whole listing off the order he was gonna kill all of Walt's fam including the baby and the nervous breakdown at the end??? I really don't think COMEDY-drama quite fits....

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Correction: WALT just panicking and wrecking on purpose.

    by Dogmatic

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Best show on TV. Hands down.

    by AshokForgiven

    Wow. Just wow. Im speechless. This show is a masterpiece.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    EC Comics ending

    by The Ghost of Scrappy Doo

    Seriously, I got the vibe that the ending could have been straight out of a classic 1950's EC comic like Crime Suspenstories or Shock Suspenstories, what with Walt realizing he's screwed and laughing hysterically, undone by the actions of his wife (a favorite EC comics villain). He was even "framed" in a comic book panel created by the opening of the crawl space. "Good Lord! Choke!"

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:05 a.m. CST

    This episode really made me want to see Gus get a bullet through his head

    by American Mythos

    Walt has no choice now but to stay and fight. I hope Mike comes back to a dead boss and a blown up methcave.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    And Walt of course giving Mike...

    by American Mythos

    ... the "you're either with me, or against me" speech.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Fucking hell.

    by Rhuragh

    Wow. That ending was absolutely brutal. Where in the hell can they go from here? How can they continue this for another season? I can't decide whether I should go to sleep or watch that again...

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    The way to take down Gus is not killing him

    by mukhtabi

    They been mentioning and hammering away at this umbrella organization. Presuming Gus is not the CEO, one would have to undermine Gus Fring in his own conglomerate. Then and only then is Fring toast. I hope Walter's been listening to Hank on that. Another way to take Fring down is to destroy the lab/laundry. It would cease to be economically viable to be in the meth business at this point, and Fring's investors would call the hit. At least that's the impression I got of how it could go down in the next 2 episodes. Watch Jesse get boned in the ass again, now that he's the designated cook.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST

    I'm guessing...

    by soup74

    Jesse already killed Gus. not immediately that is.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    From Walt's POV...

    by Rhuragh

    I'm trying to consider what options Walt can come up with once he regains his composure and climbs out of the hole (physically and metaphysically) he's in. Walt believes his family is in imminent danger. Gus is also going to see the DEA protection around Hank and will assume that Walt is moving against him. This has tipped Walt's hand. Gus is going to move against him, and Walt knows it. I don't see any way around this other than for Walt to take his family to Hank's home and seek to piggy-back on Hank's DEA protection. If he doesn't immediately confess and become an informant for the DEA against Fring's organization, his next step needs to be to immediately put together a blackmail file Shane Vendrell style and then put it somewhere with instructions to send it to the DEA in the event that he, or anyone else in his family, dies suspiciously. In The Shield when we got to this point there were only six or seven episodes left, and they were agonizing to wait through. And they were in the same season. We still have another season break to go through on Breaking Bad.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:36 a.m. CST

    just read this on twitter....

    by gotilk

    *breaking bad would be better if there were a little more tension once in a while* Made me laugh out loud.

  • Heisenberg's options are now closed. He needs the Feds, and the Feds need him. That's going to be how it has to be.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST

    The last few minutes...

    by hank_chinaski

    The last few minutes of this episode was like a fucking horror movie. Only better than any horror movie I've seen in years.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST


    by mukhtabi

    I do believe, given the fact that he has been left behind in Mexico, Mike could easily wind up a wild card. I imagine he's less than pleased with being stranded in a Mexican hospital. If anyone could figure out a path to dealing with the DEA, it would be Mike. But would he assist Walter at this point?

  • That was pretty weak to say they would recognize his voice. He could have easily changed it and they would have no idea. So the writers had to come up with the contrivance of having Saul call when it was too late and then have Walt find he didn't have enough money. It was still a very entertaining episode but marred by this plot hole as many episodes have been and more this season than in past ones.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:13 a.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    Yeah best episode ever until you gush about the one next week. But I guess people get carried away sometimes when in Church.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST


    by monolithik

    I'm not seeing how asking to make the call was a plot hole. Like Walt said, he's DEA family, plus who knows, Walt may not be good at making funny voices, and I'm sure the DEA could get tech to analyze it anyway, if they really get down to it. Long story short, the guy is moving at break-neck speeds to get his family home, packed and vanished, and I'm talking ASAFP. Would YOU take the time to go to a random phone booth on the other side of town and make a call in that situation? Sorry but to just be handed what is arguably the greatest single hour of television drama to date and bicker about the phone call is, well... blasphemy in this church, heh.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST


    by Hercules

    the "they'll recognize my voice" thing is especially contrived when you realize that Goodman's voice can be heard in all those Better Call Saul commercials.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Saul probably had one of his A-teamers make that call

    by DynamixRo

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:35 a.m. CST


    by monolithik

    But see, even if they do think to match it to some random tv lawyer, wouldn't he still have lawyer/client confidentiality to fall back on? But yeah, he had any number of people which could do it for him. And knowing Saul... probably a pretty decent voice changer software too.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Cranston's cry to a laugh was similar to G'Kars in Babylon 5

    by FrodoFraggins

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:43 a.m. CST

    You know AMC will split the last season over two years like SyFy

    by FrodoFraggins

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Another great glasses-wearing-badass...

    by Executor

    ...Brother Mouzone from the Wire.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:27 a.m. CST

    saul prob got his secretary to do it

    by bourne7855

    hes already recruited her to call hank about a fake accident before

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Augh! I fell asleep and missed it!

    by tangcameo

    Do NOT eat a REALLY big Sunday dinner just before Breaking Bad. I peeked and spoiled it for myself after midnight when I woke up. For mike's name I had an extra E and didn't have the 'trust' part because the spelling I had for it didn't make sense. How soon after does an episode show up on iTunes? I forgot to DVR it. And my local cable's VOD isn't letting anyone watch episodes until two weeks after.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Skyler continues to be a biotch

    by happybunni

    She blames Ted for getting her to cook the books? Take some responsibility for your own actions Skyler, you decided to cook those books.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:24 a.m. CST

    How it ends...

    by SuperXY

    I gotta think it comes down to some kind of stand-off between Walt and Jesse. Maybe Walt has killed everyone with his pipe bombs and Jesse is standing between Walt and Gus. They have played up the idea of Jesse really caring for his "girlfriend's" kid. So maybe they come down to it and Walt makes a plea to Jesse that Gus said he would kill his children. I just can't see any other way for him to win Jesse back. They'd probably do the season cliffhanger on that, and then have Gus get killed in the first ep of next season. Then the final is about dealing with the big conglomerate. I don't think Walt will go to the DEA though. When he is seriously threatened he gets smart. But who knows how he will outsmart Gus.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Jessie will kill Gus sooner or later.

    by Ditko

    I mean, it´s written all over.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Why won't Walt Accept being "fired"?

    by verycoldinspace

    what am i missing? With a gun literally pointed at his head (maybe not literally but I'm sure Gus was packing) Gus gives Walt the option of cutting ties with the business and Jesse and walking away. Walt knows Jesse is still protecting him so it's a promise he can take at least some stock why openly challenge it? He's got more money than he needs and it would at least take the immediate pressure why would he essentially tell gus to go fuck himself??

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST


    by proevad

    Have you watched the whole series? Walt was a wimp, a pussy, and a loser until he broke bad. He's finally the best on the planet at something, and his pride won't let him be a bitch any longer. That's why he told Gus to basically go fuck himself. Flat out pride--along with what has developed over three seasons into a pretty nasty superiority complex--explains it.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST

    The Peter Lorre guy in Raiders wore glasses

    by proevad

    Apologies for not remembering the actor or character's name. Haven't watched Raiders in far too long.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    You can't ever really 'disguise your voice'...

    by Stegman84

    Doesn't matter if you use a voice changer or whatever else, it can be peeled back, pretty simply actually, with the correct technology. And the DEA would definitely have access to the correct technology. Then it is simply a case of matching that to a voice sample of your suspect, and bang, you're done. Now of course to the naked ear you can change your voice enough so as not to be instantly recognisable, but any tip to the DEA would be recorded, so they would hen have a recording to work with. Walt was dead right not to make the call himself.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST

    I feel sorry for your tastebuds.

    by obi_juan

    Got a chuckle with that exchange over frozen yogurt.

  • I still think it was a goofy theory a few weeks ago, simply cuz if he really thought Walt was involved in any way--he wouldn't have let Skylar and Walter Junior stay in danger. Hindsight is 20/20 now though, and after Walt's desperate act in the car crash--Hank has to have figured it out. If he hasn't, it will be the first time I've been disappointed by the writing team. No one can be that blind and stupid. On the other hand, if he has known the whole season--then I call EPIC FAILURE unless there is some brilliant motivation for him not acting and pursuing Walt, that I'm not seeing.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    I think the killer in Copycat wore glasses too

    by proevad

    Under-rated movie for those who haven't seen it.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Walt is such a freaking tool

    by captzeep

    He screws things up for everybody and blames them. He has absolutely no sense of responsibility, dignity or honor. The career criminals are at least aware of the game they're playing. Walt is the worst person on TV. Jesse is way too soft-hearted about the guy, even after Walt has disrespected him again and again. I will be happy to see Gus plug Walt.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Now THAT was an episode.

    by thedottedlion

    The end was fantastic.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST

    The shadowy long shot in the desert

    by proevad

    Any tech geeks tell if that was digitally inserted, or was it one of those happy accidents that happen in films from time to time? (Bonnie and Clyde springs to mind) Awesome either way.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Not that it matters but where was Ted running?

    by proevad

    Also, he died like a little piglet bitch. Just sayin'.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I was assuming that...

    by dj_bollocks

    Saul's go to guy was Mike... Haven't they done business in the past ?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:40 a.m. CST

    All it takes is one bad day...

    by v1cious

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST

    what an ending!!!

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    bit late to this party but wow what an ending, what tension I like some others don't know how they will ever top that That could have worked as a series ending to be honest, something in the vain of Sopranos, i.e. no sense of finalisation but at least with a strong sense of tension

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:42 a.m. CST

    draper, thanks for the catch on Gilligan

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    Thanks for the Gilligan catch re:Sopranos. I totally was confusing him with Weiner. My bad. In any event, I re-watched last night's episode 3 times. I haven't done that in a very long time with a TV show. I'd re-watch it again right now if I didn't have to work. Amazing. I think the person who wrote above that Walt's immediate play is to take the family to Hank's under "concern for Hank" but to really be protected by DEA sounds right although I think Skylar may be the one who comes up with that play. As for Walt destroying the lab and going up against Gus solo I can see that too. I also can see Walt somehow contact whoever is left from the cartel and tell them he'll cook for them if they take out Gus but save Jesse. That might be why Hector showed up last night. Hector's still got to know some people. He might loom larger than we think. I don't think he re-appeared last night just to make Gus look more badass than they already had made him look the previous weeks.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Emmys for next year

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    If there is any justice in the world Best Actor: Bryan Cranston Best Supporting Actor: Giancarlo Esposito Beating Aaron Paul, John Noble and Peter Dinklage

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    rupee and Herc...

    by cptrios

    Why is Walt asking Saul to call a "plot hole" or "contrived?" To me it just seemed like Walt being a coward.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by obi_juan

    I thought it was a bit weak to have Ted die like that. Wow. Skylar really f'd Walt over.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:57 a.m. CST

    re: rupee and Herc...

    by obi_juan

    Walt's been a bitch this season. He tries to get Mike in on killing Gus. Tries to get Jesse to do it. Gets Saul to call the DEA.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    jessie vs. gus

    by rabidrudolph

    someone said above, and think it might be the case, jessie probably already killed gus. he was carrying the supplies in the desert, and the doc did tell gus drink plenty of water, think jessie's "lucky" might've made it into the water bottle. walt said it would take about 36 hours or so -- seems like that would be sometime in the next episode. i don't think jessie's ever been in gus's camp. mike's yes, gus's no. it's obvious how much he cares about that girl and her kid, and he never has shown he's over gus having the other kid killed. think gus is already dead.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    and think that bullet saved mike's life

    by rabidrudolph

    will get him out of the line of fire between gus and walt while he recovers. jessie will bring him back into the fold when the dust settles and walt and jessie have moved on to whatever happens after gus.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    What have I done?

    by rockgolf

    While *BING*BING* guy is watching the last 5 minutes of "Bridge on the River Kwai", Gus just walks in and spoils it on him. Like we didn't think he was enough of an SOB already.<br> But remember that scene: Col. Nicholson (Alec Guinness) is a British POW at a Japanese prison. He starts off opposed to his fellow prisoners working on the bridge, but with consciously realizing it, becomes co-operative with his captors. He nearly unravels the plot to destroy the bridge. At literally the last moment, he becomes aware of switching sides and that quote "What have I done?" is the last thing he says. He is shot as he tries to get to the plunger to detonate the bridge but in death, his body lands on the plunger, blowing the bridge up. It is one of the greatest climaxes in film history.<br> So why did the Breaking Bad producers include it in this show? Very little in this show is accidental. My guess is that Jesse is going to have a very Col. Nicholsonesque moment in the closing minutes of this season's finale.<br> I wouldn't be surprised if his last words were "What have I done?"

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    These theories are all fantastic and

    by Glen Hall

    I'd be thrilled to see any one of them actually go down. But knowing these writers, it's gonna be something even crazier and unexpected. Though if I had to put my money on one, I'd say either Walt outing Gus from his mystery conglomerate or Jesse having already done the deed...

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    and when gus is dead . . .

    by rabidrudolph

    seriously, we've been shown that even the cartel wouldn't kill gus on a couple of occasions because of who he is, which we really don't know his history, just that somehow he's someone important. so when jessie and/or walt actually do kill him -- someone or some group is apparently going to be really pissed off. i would guess that "someone" is going to show up next year.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    worst case scenario for jessie and walt this season

    by rabidrudolph

    walt sets a car bomb or something, ends up taking out some of gus's guys, including jessie . . . but gus is unharmed, walt is down, gus is about to take him out, then suddenly drops dead. walt checks jessie's body, sees his lucky cigarette is gone, he did poison gus after all and never really turned agains mr. white. would be tragic for walt.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST


    by Clayton

    Considering the quick pick up in pace during this episode comparatively with the rest of the season it seemed almost sloppy until the end gave it complete and total justification. My god, the show went from tense to concise and crippling horror in a matter of moments. Brilliant, brilliant episode... I wonder how far Jesse will go to protect an "enemy" and how far Walter's madness will take him from this feral infant to Heisenberg?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST


    by JFilm101

    That was the other one that came to mind, the Wire's Brother Mouzone. Great minds ... : )

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by JFilm101

    The details were murky but from what I remember Tuco's Uncle Hector ,when teaching a lesson to the nephews with the beer tube, mentioned with disdain about the 'chicken man' being a general of some sort. Probably in Augusto Pinochet's regime in Chile. Even Hank made a vague assertion when Gus was being QnAed by the DEA that Gustavo might have had some lingering affiliation with that despot.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    walt's escape thwarted, so why not go to the cops?

    by rabidrudolph

    so obviously walt will ask why ted needed money, skylar will tell him, they will decide they need to tell ted to cancel check and give $ back, then find out ted is dead. so walt will have to stand his ground. why not just become a witness? go into witness protection? he was about to pretty much do that on his own dime. he's got enough info. to bring down the whole thing. i'm sure they will answer this -- hell, skylar has suggested before several times he just goes to the cops. i think walt will have to do some serious convincing to skylar that he can handle this or she would probably go to the DEA. I really don't think they will go to the cops, and i am certain it will be explained, but real curious how it will make sense not to at this point. wonder if teds death will look at all suspicious enough to investigate further. they would find skylar's fingerprints there, or a-team surely would've wiped the place down. wonder if anything more will come of it other than a plot point to make sure the money is gone and can't be retrieved.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST


    by JethroBodine

    That desert shot had some slight manipulation to it. Listen to the BB podcast, they talk about it.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    We haven't seen the last of Hector, which is to say...

    by Somerichs

    somehow or another, I think he'll play a big role in the next two episodes, and we'll also get a flashback about him, too...

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST


    by happybunni

    Next week is going to be super interesting, being a season finale. So the cops will start protecting Hank, and Gus will find out about it so he'll go after Walter's family... I suspect that Jessie is going to die from Hector's hand, or maybe the girl/kid that Jessie's been taking care of.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Notice how all the smart kids come to this thread every week?

    by proevad

    Yeah, we get a troll or two--but this has become my favorite thread on AICN. Quality over quantity.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    As far as I see it Walt has 3 options

    by Adam

    Turn himself in to the DEA Kill Gus Kill Jesse Jesse is now the same 'problem dog' Gale once was for Walt

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    Good analysis. Pride won't let him turn himself in. He won't kill Jesse because when all is said and done, he loves him like a son. Bye Bye Gus.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST


    by NoQuarter

    FYI, the next episode isn't the season finale.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    i agree with above post

    by bourne7855

    about jesse killing gus with the poison. i think it would be cool if gus was about to kill hank or walt or both and right when hes about to do it the poison attacks and kills him on the spot. technically i guess he could still pull the trigger but maybe not . whatever happens with the last two episodes i have complete faith they will nail it

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    The pull away shot of Walter in the crawl space.

    by alan_poon

    Was it shot to make him look like he's in a coffin or am I reading too much into it?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST


    by Boxcutter

    Not much to add to the praise from the rest of you here. The nooses are tightening and things are not going to end well. Just first-rate work from everyone. Every week it feels like I don't breathe for 45 minutes. Went to see Drive at the weekend, by comparison, and yes it was fine, it floated past all beautifully composed and tightly performed in a cloud of Hill, Friedkin, Lynch and Mann homages - nuthin we ain't seen before, but it passed the time (while taking us back in time) and now I can't really remember much about it. With BB, the faces, the lines, the compositions, the "moments" are all there, vivid, real, ingrained and playing in your head for hours, days afterwards. Irrespective of the medium, this is wonderful, wonderful drama.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    alan poon

    by bourne7855

    thats a good comparison. what i got from it was the feeling that he is now boxed in , metaphorically and physically from our viewpoint watching the show which coincides with your coffin idea. same thing basically

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Oh, villains with glasses

    by Boxcutter

    I nominate Cronenburg as the nutter doc in Nightbreed, and Sir Larry as Szell "Der Weisse Engel" in Marathon Man.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Saw the sneak peak from the next ep

    by obi_juan

    I hope the next ep doesn't show everything being okey dokey between Walt and Skylar. The magnitude of how badly she f'd things up boggles the mind. And all the times she was bitching at Walt for spending money and the need to be careful. With the parting shot of Walt maniacally laughing I could envision him killing Skylar.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Why would Walt believe any explanation from Skylar?

    by obi_juan

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    Hector is not in next week's episode.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Dissenting Opinion

    by _Maltheus_

    I do love this show and always have (best show after GOT), but I think I'm the only person here not blown away by Cranston's performance last night. I get it, they want more emmys. But it's really kind of coming across as more melodramatic than inspired at this point. The performances have been pulling me out of the story this season. Especially as Walt's reaction doesn't really make sense. He could have run at any time, with or without this "facilitator." He doesn't want to (presumably because his ego is more important than his life), but then he changes his mind when he realizes that Gus is going to kill him. But that's something he's known all season. So why the panic now? If Jesse was his only plan to survive, then he's the dumbest person on the show. As for the show's tension, I think that's diminished somewhat now that Jesse is safe (from Gus anyway). They've made Walt so unlikable, that I don't feel the tension there. And Hank is a DEA agent, so fuck him. It's too bad that they didn't go with the whole Mr. Chips to Scarface thing so that I could at least root for Walt out of admiration for his villainy. Maybe he'll finally become smart for the last season? Who knows? I can't imagine where they might take it.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    I don't see how having Saul call is a plothole.

    by bah

    What would have changed if Walt had made the call? And so what if they recognize Saul's voice? It's feasible in the eyes of the DEA for Saul to get a tip like that. Hank, not so much.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Are Walt Jr and the baby unlikeable too?

    by bah

    As for melodrama, I've felt the Cranston was overdoing it most of the season, but last night restored him, IMO. The closing scene, yeah, but also everything from Jesse's yard on.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Drive was fantastic

    by proevad

    It would have been a great follow-up to Michael Mann's Thief--if the screenplay had existed back then. Really took me back.

  • Cranston will definitely be getting the Emmy again next year.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Skyler dieing

    by Scott_Hathaway

    Anybody else expecting a bullet to go through Skylars head while she was looking down into the whole looking like she was about to break down? I was so expecting something like that...most tense last couple of minutes since the last couple of episodes in season 3

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST

    The phone call isn't a plot hole

    by proevad

    Just something to nitpick about. Walter was in a fucking hurry. Get over it. Wouldn't have mattered if they wasted screen time showing him downloading voice distortion software and making the phone call himself. Jeez.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    I guess what they are saying is, if Walt hadn't asked Saul to make the call--then Walt himself wouldn't have made the call after he discovered that the money was missing. But, I mean Walt had asked Saul to do stuff like this all the time--wasn't like it was something out of the blue. It's consistent with what had come before--so imho, it's not a hole.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Hank still doesn't suspect Walt yet and here's why

    by Sick Fixx

    He still doesn't know that Walt and Skyler paid for his medical expenses. He's already thrown a bit off by Walt impulse buying Walter Junior an expensive car and Walt's fishy behavior on their roadtrips, but when he finds out his extravagant bills were covered in full by the White family, all his minor suspicions will be justified and become full blown.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    And just to reiterate what I said earlier

    by Sick Fixx

    Saul's go-to-disappearer guy will be someone who works for Gus.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    I figured he just needed both calls made immediately

    by bah

    He had to get to Hank ASAFP, and the moment the DEA is tipped, his family is forfeit, so he needs to call the vacuum man equally ASAFP.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Re: Walt making the anonymous call

    by CCon99

    I don't really think Walt not wanting to make the call was a plot hole, Walt is smart and likely knows that any anonymous tip made will be surely be recorded. The DEA wanting to know more about the attack on one of their own, will do everything they can to find the anonymous caller for more information including trying to trace the phone, and seeing if anyone recognizes the voice on the recording. Since this is the second time someone is 'tipping' Hank off, they would likely assume the anonymous caller has at least a soft spot for Hank and it wouldn't be a stretch to assume it could be someone he's acquainted with where they may ask Hank if he knows the voice on the recording. I do agree it would be dumb if Saul made the actual call though (instead of having someone else make it on a disposable phone for him), just because he would have the more recognizable voice with all of his TV and Radio ads airing locally.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I do agree it would be dumb if Saul made the actual call though

    by proevad

    With you guys on this, but as said earlier--we see in earlier eps how Saul handles stuff like that. I would be really surprised and disappointed if it is said on the show that he made the call himself.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST


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  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Great episode

    by Extr3m1st

    Can't wait for next week. How anyone could say Cranston's performance has pulled them out of the show is beyond me. Go back to watching reality TV brah. I don't think Walt will ever be Heisenberg. He may become dangerous now because he has very few chips left to play without going to the Feds. I don't think for one second that Walt will kill Jesse though I do think Jesse will somehow get Gus to eat that poison. Hate seeing Walt always getting pushed around, but it proves he really isn't cut out for this shit. He may be smarter then everyone in the room but he is not tougher. He has the brains though to come out on top of these guys. Making Jesse be just as good a cook as Walt to me is a mistake. Heck if that was really all Gus was looking for before he killed Walt he could have just studied every move that Walt made on Video and then used any decent chemist to do the job. He certainly doesn't need it to be either Walt or Jesse. Jesse can't even make some of the simpler ingredients, he gets the stuff he needs by reading the barrel labels lol. Walt should have treated Jesse better, but Jesse did make a big habit of fucking up a lot in the past.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Requiem for a Walt

    by Jayeskimo

    Its sad really. Watching that last shot of him lying in the ground. You know that a large part of him is dead for good. Kind of like the last piece of decency in him. He's definitely a changed man now. Im guessing the Walt we see from here on out will be very different. Cold, calculating and completely vengeful. No more Walter White science teacher. No more Heisenberg. Something different altogether. What an amazing episode.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Something I love about the last few seconds of the last shot...

    by PotSmokinAlien

    That lightbulb appearing at the very bottom of the frame as Walt gets it together. The cartoon shorthand for getting an idea, turned on its head. As Walt cackles at the cosmic joke that his life has become and perhaps always has been, he realizes what's going to lie ahead... Crazy how a little touch like that can be so sly and weird and eerie— just like this nigh-legendary program is when it's at its best.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST

    re: extr3m1st

    by _Maltheus_

    It pulls me out of it because these ultra-emotional performances are getting to be cliche. I surprised they didn't subtitle it with "for your emmy consideration..." At least it wasn't Jesse crying again. You can turn that into a drinking game at this point. I still love the show, but it's been two seasons of running from the wrath of Gus. They need to kill him off and switch things up. The production values are great, but they need to move of with the story already. The characters (especially Walt and Gus) seem dumbed down this season and the only growth in the story is centered around Skylar and Hank. Oh and Jesse is still a fuck up and always will be. It makes no sense at all for Gus to be warming up to him or putting any trust in him. Gotta wonder how much he knows though. Mike bugged Walt's house over Sky getting a little nosy. He's got 100 times more reason to be bugging them now. Are we suppose to believe that he doesn't know about the poison cigarette plan?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    @scott_hathaway about skylar

    by SuperXY

    I absolutely thought the same thing. I thought she would turn around, we'd hear a silenced gunshot and she'd fall on Walt. On another topic, I think you are all greatly overestimating how much law enforcement officials dig into anonymous calls. This is a local DEA office, not the CIA. Walt didn't make it because he's in panic mode, but why would the DEA be looking for a call from Saul? It is actually extremely difficult to recognize a voice unless you have a pre-existing idea of who it might be.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST

    I thought the last shot was supposed to be

    by Cartagia

    Looking into the cell at an insane asylum, but coffin makes sense too.

  • And...

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST

    I wanna watch it, but it's not on itunes or vureel

    by deelzbub

    for some reason and I don't have cable. Any suggestions?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    found it

    by deelzbub

    thanks anyway

  • Walt just doesn't have the nerve to do it himself. The holes some posters keep complaining about are the holes in the characters' themselves. They are all flawed people who are missing certain critical qualities. These flaws come into relief during extreme crises. It causes them to make questionable unpredictable destructive illogical decisions. This is what gives the writers the ability to create scenarios that r both surprising and seemingly inevitable. Not a plot hole. And totally in keeping with what we have come to learn about Walt.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    Well done on the light bulb shot.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:31 p.m. CST

    oh and id be surprisex if jesse is planning on killing

    by dahveed1972

    Gus. Wouldn't he b committing career and literal suicide? Maybe im missing something?

  • Yeah, he still has pride in his work--but I think he just wants out of it all at this point.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I somewhat agree with maltheus on the acting

    by bah

    It's not really Cranston's fault. There just comes a point where good actors become too good, and you're too busy thinking about how good they are to lose yourself in what they're doing. I can't watch Tom Hanks for that reason. Even when he's amazing, I'm thinking, "Wow, isn't Tom Hanks amazing!"

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Another big plot hole

    by Rupee88

    was Skylar giving the $600K to Beneke and Saul doing the deal for her AND NOT TELLING WALT ABOUT IT. he gives away $600K of his clien's money and doesn't bother to clear it with him. He's the one paying Saul not Walt's goofy wife.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    another big plot hole

    by Rupee88

    And back when Hank had the shootout with that dude (forget his name), he would have drawn his gun immediately and not stood there and let him get the assault rife/uzi out..that took a few seconds to do. Sure he was caught off guard but he still would have had his gun at the ready considering he was trying to find Pinkman. And when those two guys tried to kill Hank, the one with the axe woudln't have stood there and let Hank finish loading the gun so he could get shot. He was standing right there and Hank was barely alive. He could have kicked it out of his hand or done anything but instead he stood there and got shot. Yes I like this show but you guys ignoring these plot holes and acting like they don't exist just put them in bold relief for me. The acting on the show is top notch...the writing is A- . That is nothing to be ashamed of but just a lot of it is derivative of the Sopranos and other shows and too many big gaping plot holes that cannot be ignored.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:17 p.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    yeah good point..why not go into witness protection program for free? And they probably won't explain this... Instead they give us that Skylar spent $600K of Walt's money without telling him. And her expense made logical sense so she wouldn't need to hide it from him...another contrivance.

  • Sopranos was uneven but almost impossible for a show to be consistently great for many years. But next to last season of Sopranos was excellent and then last mini season was an abomination. And I remember they wanted end it in that last full season but probably couldn't turn down the money...but David Chase and Co had nothing left to say. Breaking Bad is running out of gas too. Next season of Mad Men may be sucky too...But first two seasons of Sopranos, Mad Men and BB were f'ing riveting television. It doesn't take anything away from them if they can't maintain that and start to put lazy plot holes in as much as they have this season. Ok I will shut up.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Rupee, you're trying too hard to find faults where there are none

    by memento108

    Breaking Bad has only improved as each season has gone along. Are you watching the same show as the rest of us? Saul is easily persuaded. Skylar is extremely persuasive. Not only that but she launders walt's money, putting herself and her family at risk. You mean to tell me she doesn't take ownership of that money as much as Walt does and feels that she can do what she wants with it? She doesn't need to ask Walt, especially considering the fact that she's possibly saving their lives with it by paying Ted. Remember that there are some liberties taken. It's still television. The thing with the axe? Come on, man. You're just nitpicking.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 11:27 p.m. CST

    if this show dosent win the best drama emmy...

    by jsfithaca

    then that entire organization deserves to die. hoooooooollllllyyyyyyyy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt. I cant even think of words that describe how good that episode was

  • Even if you're right and what the characters do/say make no sense (a huge if), they arent plotholes. And to reiterate what memento said above, you have to allow for artistic license, especially in certain action oriented scenes (like the shootout). Hank taking too long to shoot does not constitute a plothole. At worst, its a mistake in choreography. Of course the truth is that this was completely intentional, and everything was dragged out for dramatic effect. The show isnt verite or a fake documentary. In fact, in its own way, its as stylized as Mad Men.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    his gun up fast enough") are basically non sequitors

    by dahveed1972

  • Think about it. He must have known that Walt was going to do the exact opposite of what he told him to do in the desert. Which is perfect, because it solves two of Gus's problems. Hank is gonna wind up under police protection. Which means he isnt going to be doing anymore investigating. And he wont have to worry about Walt anymore, if Walt disapears. Unless of course Walt goes into witness protection.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Breaking Bad has only gotten better

    by Therawbeats

    Don't see how anyone could watch seasons 1-4 and say it gets worse. That's gotta be the stupidest shit I've ever heard. The show only gets more layered and intense. And rupees88, do you just watch TV and Movies and shout out PLOT HOLE!!!! PLOT HOLE!!! every few minutes? I feel bad for your friends; it must be annoying as hell to watch a show with you. PLOT HOLE!!!! Surprised at the dislike of Ted's death, I thought it was sick. Very Coen Bros.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    The axe and the twins "plothole"

    by Cartagia

    The twin had no reason to believe Hank had any more ammo, he had already emptied the gun Hank took off of his brother. Hank used a stray bullet rolling around on the ground.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Ted's not dead ...

    by Toe Jam

    When describing the mishap, Saul trailed off with a very ambiguous line, which makes me think Ted isn't dead, but very likely in a coma or other vegetative state, unable to tell anyone what happened. Of course, I was one of those people who thought we might find out this season that Gus had never intended to kill Walt and/or Jesse last season, but after this most recent episode it seems Gus really is one coldblooded fucker.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 2:16 a.m. CST

    The last shot

    by Derek Thomas

    I thought it was a play on the opening credits. Walter White has become his own element now.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Is this the end?

    by spotmund

    Is there any chance that the Season 5 renewal was all just a front and this is the end of the show? Unlikely seeing as this is AMC but it would be awesome if thats what they have planned. This feels like the end of the story, what the hell are they going to do for another 16 episodes next year?

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 3:06 a.m. CST

    @toe jam - Ted's dead, baby. Ted's dead.

    by jimmy3vil

    See his neck? See his fingers twitch? See the oranges on the table? Dead.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Better off Ted

    by alan_poon

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 4:14 a.m. CST

    One thing I will mention is security

    by alan_poon

    Both Jessie and Ted answered the door in this episode not knowing who was on the other side. Both wealthy men and Jessie in particular has experience of shooting someone on their doorstep.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Walter's fate this season

    by mukhtabi

    With 2 episodes left, the promos make it clear that Walter gets his family out of harm's way. Running low on drug money, alone for the forseeable future, Walter has nothing to lose. I strongly suspect the lab is toast. Also Gus is going down. Who actually pulls that off is the question. Lastly, I suspect as far as the meth goes, Walter will be the last chemist standing again. I do think that his time as Heisenberg is at an end. I could definitely see the season finale being a standoff between Walter and Gus.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Shame about Mike

    by alan_poon

    But then again I don't want to see him having to choose sides when the shit goes down.

  • Something you don't understand or get is not a plothole. If you think a character should do something different or you think you have a better idea than what the writers did (ha!) that is not a plothole.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    will torn up check to skylar be discovered?

    by rabidrudolph

    suppose the pieces are still sitting in the trash or somewhere. maybe going through Ted's things, it turns up? would raise a lot of questions why skylar white had a check almost on the same day as the one that went to the irs for the same amount. she could explain being in his house, but the check would be very difficult to account for.

  • That way it's just like real life, where everyone does the correct and best thing.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I remember seeing the actor playing Gus in School Daze

    by deelzbub

    He was a good bad guy even way back then. I am surprised he hasn't been in more things.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    (Herc) Okay, so maybe a small role.. :)

    by Somerichs

    But I still think his role in the proceedings will yet go beyond just illustrating what a cold, cunning, vengeful motherfucker Gus is...

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Who Gus really is

    by bah

    I'm beginning to suspect it's something smaller. Not a Pinochet general or something lofty, but someone's illegitimate son/grandson, or that of someone's wife/lover. Even Hector's or Eladio's. Bastard son of the cartel.

  • And he may be right. Or maybe he has several aces in the hole ala moles in the DEA, and he knows he will have no problem disappearing Walt if necessary. I know Gus is a guy who thinks of every contingecy, but hes a man not a supervillain. He cant possibly predict how this is all going to go down, no more than he can accurately predict the weather. Too many variables. And as Rumsfeld said, he doesn know what he doesnt know. I am curious whether he knows about Skyler's predicament. Im also curious what if anything Saul has told him (or Mike) about all the mishegas vis a vis the Whites. And Murphy's Law applies to everyone i believe.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Killing Gus would be a really,really bad idea.

    by WarrenSmooth

    The Mexican Cartel wouldn't off young Gus because of his connections. Remember Gus walking headfirst into gunfire, with no fear of being harmed? The dude has friends in high places. Friends that are going to come after Walt in Season 5.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Jesse wouldn't kill Gus. Not now.

    by Sick Fixx

    Two words: Stockholm Syndrome. He saved him from being stuck in Mexico cooking for the cartel. Not to mention he practically regards Mike as a father figure now.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    I'm not certain it's "friends in high places"

    by bah

    Like I said, it may be that he's simply related to someone in the cartel, by blood or some other connection, and Eladio didn't kill him because of that connection. Just a possibility.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    But if it is friend in high places....

    by bah

    Walt has no idea about any of that. He's been doing nothing all season but cooking and getting beat up by Mike and Jesse and pickup trucks.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I have always wondered...

    by McSatan

    ...what Don Eladio meant when he told Gus the only reason he was alive was "because of who you are." Hopefully we will find out by series end. And I don't see how they could ever top "Crawlspace" but I can't wait to see them try...

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Surely the gunman refraining...

    by Lee

    from shooting Gus was less to do with his connections, and more to do with his network. We know Gus has both the production facility and the means of distributing it north of the border, so I guessed it was to do with that... They had intended on having Walt transfer from Gus' facility to thee own, presumably so thy they can oversee production, and Gus maintains his distribution up north.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    late to the party, but great episode

    by CountryBoy

    Finally this show lives up to its reputation! Still, some of the wildly over-the-top comments here are eye-rolling to me; but it was a really good episode, with several fantastic scenes and a great ending. Walt's final despairing laughter was terrific. Hank's nonchalance about the car wreck, though, seemed nuts to me. "Oh, that crazy Walt..." yeah, right. But Gus's scene with the old guy was mesmerizing. The shot in the desert with the massive shadow drifting over everyone was awesome. Ted's death seemed a little, I don't know what the word is... too Coenesque or something. I felt as if I'd seen it before. Still, these are minor quibbles. And since there are only 2 eps left, there's no way it can get boring now. Bring on the season finale!

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    countryboy- Welcome to the party, pal!

    by Cartagia

    Ted's fate is a tad... weird, but I laughed for a good 5 minutes straight, especially because of the foreshadowing with him tripping over the rug in the beginning of the episode. And I know, I'll sound like a broken record, but the show has done Coen-esque things like that in the past, you've just never seen them. Wink wink. However, I do now want to ask; do you now see why we said it is all the sum of its parts? everything of the season led to that point. Jesse's decline and "redemption". The car wash. Ted. Hank. All led to the final perfect moment, with two more to go. And I do like the final shot being compared to the periodic table. But I'm still sticking with my "he's now metaphorically in the loony bin" theory.

  • It was pretty self explanatory to me. No need for a conspiracy theory. I take it gus would have as many people in positions to help him as possible, as he's a master strategist who runs his empire like a game of chess.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    i disagree

    by jsfithaca

    if there was not a threat from gus's background then he would be dead. gus didnt have his empire at that point because if he did they wouldnt have killed the chemist

  • Significantly different implications there.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Also, in the flash back at the beginning of...

    by Lee

    One Minute, Hector refers to Gus as Generalissimo. Telling?

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 4:30 a.m. CST

    crew guy on the podcast

    by bourne7855

    i listened to for episode 11 said that they wanted walt at the end of the episode to appear as if he were in a tomb so whoever said he looked like he was in a coffin was closest to being right, but all theories make sense anyway

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 7:06 a.m. CST

    being away and not having AMC sucks

    by Truxton Spangler

    Finally caught up with this weeks' episode. In a reversal of this year's situation, I don't believe Mad Men is eligible for the Emmys next year, so it looks like it's Cranston's to lose again. Not that the voters seem to have any love for Hamm anyway, even if he was eligible... Perhaps the voters will even recognize some of the other players, production staff like the DP, and the show itself, at least if they're not part of the "slow" crowd. Mark Margolis has been equally fantastic without saying a word at all. I won't speculate as to what will happen next, with one full (likely two half) seasons to go, but what we saw last night was a man who realized he was on the cusp of losing all that he'd sacrificed (himself) and fought for for the past year or so. It would have made for a fitting season finale. Reminded me of the scene in Goodfellas when Henry realized that Karen had flushed away all their money. Even though the set up was evident once Ted reappeared on the show, it was still an effective scene and moment in BB's story. Grade AAA TV.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Hector and Bridge on the River Kwai

    by Baribunma

    We got a foreshadow of Gus' demise, and the hands of Hector. When Gus came to see Hector (with Jesse in the background), Hector was watching the movie "Bridge On The River Kwai" on TV. We even saw some of the scene where the bridge is blown up in the final death scene with film star Alec Guinness. If you remember the movie, you will recall that the lead character, played by Guinness, begins cooperating with their Japanese captors in building the Bridge. His reasoning is to boost the morale of his men by giving them a reason to live, and building a team identity (it also goes along that the Japanese stop torturing the captives and give them more to eat when they willingly work on the Bridge). As they approach completion of the Bridge, Guinness' men begin to wonder if he will follow through with his promise (to his men) to destroy the Bridge before it can be used to fight the Allies. Guinness is torn between his duty and his love of the Bridge he has built. It appears that Guinness has been "comprimised" by the Japanese commander, as we think that Jesse has been comprimised by Gus. In the very end, Guinness and his men blow up the Bridge as a gunfight rages. Guinness is shot as he goes to the plunger activator for the dynamite that has been laid. He falls forward onto the plunger and the dynamite blows up the Bridge. In death, Guinness' character accomplishes that which he could not do in life. ------------ That is how Gus' death is going to happen, at the finger and the "ding-dinger" of Hector. The only thing Hector can move is his finger. That is all he will need. Remember that Walt knows how to create Fulmonated Mercury, a very powerful explosive. We saw what he did with just one small crystal of the substance (looks like meth) at Tuco's HQ at the end of Season 1. Somehow, probably through Jesse, Hector is going to jump (pun) at his ONLY chance to kill Gus. Walt will make the mercury, Jesse and Walt will set it up in the base of Hector's wheelchair, and the trap will be set. The final time Gus orders Hector to "look at me", Hector WILL LOOK AT HIM and SMILE, and ring his bell. BOOM! No more Gus, no more Hector. Think about it. Vince Gilligan has stated that none of the things they do on the show are without meaning. All these visits to Hector, and now the Bridge On The River Kwai explosion death scene? Lock it up!

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 8:14 a.m. CST


    by proevad

    Bravo, and well fucking done sir--and damn you for ruining the end of the season lol.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by Therawbeats

    That would be fucking amazing!

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    proevad, therawbeats

    by Baribunma

    You do me honor, sirs. The Hector Gets Revenge in Death scenario makes sense. That said, I haven't been able to predict where this freaking show has been going so far, so I could be a million miles off base. Damn, this is good TV.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Surely, if BB is mirroring Bridge...

    by Lee

    Over the River Kwai, then, thematically, Jessie must be Obi Wan. Other than that, great analysis. I don't see the Hector ending, but I definitely see the Gus situation being resolved, possibly tragically, by Jessie next episode. Te last episode *vague spoiler* is called Face Off. I'd put good money on that referring to Walt/Hank, and not the expected Gus confrontation.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST


    by memento108

    I swear I was going to say how Hector would factor into Gus's demise, or would just have some role to play in general in the last episode. But you've nailed it, sir...bravo.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    thanks, cartagia

    by CountryBoy

    I do see that everything was leading up to this; but I still feel that all along it could have been more engaging. The scene in the nursing home was a perfect example. I had no clue of the backstory between Gus and Hector. But the scene was so well-written and acted (with Gus reeling off that list of names as Hector furiously glared past him), and the inclusion of BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI was such powerful symbolism -- even if I didn't know what it meant -- that I was mesmerized. It was a great scene, regardless of what had come before or what it meant for the future. The whole season should have had more scenes like that. I don't want to complain though, because it really was a great episode. And I can't wait to see how it resolves. As for your loony bin theory, it makes me want to watch that scene again...

  • Sept. 29, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    German Conglomerates and who owns Los Pollos?

    by Baribunma

    Thanks for the props on the Hector - Bridge on the River Kwai thoughts. We'll see how that shakes out. I watched the show again last night. The conversation between Hank and Walt in the soon-to-be-wrecked Aztec is full of previously unheard info. Hank tells Walt that a German conglomerate OWNS FOURTEEN Los Pollos Hermanos franchises. Fourteen is the same number that Gus operates. I think THEY own the stores rather than Gus, unless somehow Gus owns the German conglomerate, which doesn't make sense. Hank also connects the same German conglomerate (forgot the name) to the Air Scrubber and Gale Boetticher, who signed for it. He connects the Laundry to the Germans too. What I am going for is this: There are more bad guys behind the scenes than we know of. Who supplies the cartel with their high-end weapons? Who launders their money and provides international assistance? One of the things we learned in Season Two of The Wire is that the dope business is World Wide. You know how you can be watching a show and think the hero just can't get out of the fix he's in, can't escape the Monster, but a BIGGER monster comes in and kills the Original Monster? What do you bet that we are going to hear from the Overseas Operation? What's the Over/Under on the idea that They might have finally had enough of this stuff in the ABQ and replace Gus with NEW Management?

  • Sept. 29, 2011, 11:04 p.m. CST


    by johnnyg korrupt

  • Sept. 29, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST


    by johnnyg korrupt

    Found this on another site supposedly the death cigarette finally gets put to use....but to the wrong target. Would jesse try to kill gus still now that he's the cook and in charge? maybe he tries to kill Walt

  • Sept. 30, 2011, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Finally saw this last night, and another bespectacled hardass...

    by SpiderHarshaw

    My brother and I watch this together every week, and he'd been out of town. Holy crap, that was incredible. Cannot wait for some more. Also Kevin from Sin City is the most badass glasses-wearing villain ever.