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Confirmed: No DOCTOR WHO Next Spring Or Summer!!

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Doctor Who Magazine now confirms the long delay between this year’s “Doctor Who” Christmas special and the arrival of season seven.

Airings of the sci-fi series will not commence until Autumn of next year.

The series traditionally launches its seasons in the spring.

Still no reason has been given for the delay, but my money’s still on the idea that series showrunner Stephen Moffatt wants to put a big-screen “Who” adventure into cinemas next summer.

The website doctorwhotv speculates the seventh season could unfurl in two parts, just as season six did:

Easter Special
Autumn – Series 7 Part 1
Christmas Special


Spring – Series 7 Part 2
Autumn – Series 8
Christmas Special

By the way, all "Who" fans should tune in to tonight's "Community" for some clips from "Inspector Spacetime," the show Abed likes ever better than "Cougar Town."

Find all of doctorwhotiv’s story on the matter here.

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  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Is Michael Grade behind this?

    by Yoda's Ball Sack


  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    There is no movie!

    by shutupfanboy

    Get over it. Its a bad idea to make people wait that long if you are going to split the season anyway.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    How about a movie about the time war?

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    RTD must have left some notes around some where.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Prbbly why they split this series - so it would only be a 1 yr wait

    by sunspot_mike

    Also, so they could have it line up correctly for the 50th anniversary in 2013. No big deal, there's no Mad Men this year, but that doesn't mean that I'm not as excited as hell for the next season...

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST

    DAMN! That makes the waiting... even longer...

    by wtriker1701

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST

    No movie version is being produced

    by Mister Vertue

    Not now, and not anywhere in the near (or relatively distant) future. The simple fact of the matter is that the show works better during the dark evenings of Autumn rather than those horrible Summer weekends when everyone is out enjoying the sun or watching the Olympics, as they will be in 2012. It's nothing sinister, just good planning, that's all. To read any more into it isn't wise at all. There'll still be the *SAME* number of episodes produced, as I've been trying to tell everyone on here who'll listen, but I'll keep saying it until the cows come home if need be.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST


    by Dasinfogod

    I wonder how much input BBCA had in this decision. The restructuring places the season more in the US context of a Fall/Spring TV season that has been the hallmark of network programming for over 60 years. New Who has usually had a Spring startup, but was was it like for Vintage Who? Did individual series have consistent start dates or did the Beeb bounce it around?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST


    by welshguy

    Don't think they want to listen about the 'movie'. We waited decades for new Who so a couple of months won't hurt.Just wish the beeb would show classic who in the build up to the 50th anniversary

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    There is no movie. Good grief, that isn't even plausible.

    by V'Shael

    Herc do you not pay attention to the rest of the website? The part of the site about movies? It doesn't work that way...

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Who delay

    by Noel

    OK. Next year there is an Olympics happening in the UK and the BBC will want to cover that as much as possible. The Moff also made no secret of the fact that he he always believed Dr. Who belongs in an autumn/winter slot as it was in the distant past. THERE IS NO MOVIE! How many more times? All the movie shenanigans melted away when RTD fucked-off to the US. So - no movie, but some very nice things in the 2013 season (allegedly). No hints yet about what WILL happen in the 2012 season, but I'm sure it'll be great. Oh - and first time poster.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    This news isn't really a surprise.

    by V'Shael

    To anyone who was following the whole fiasco with the BBC comptroller a few months back. It seems that the powers that be, simply felt that Doctor Who worked better when the evenings were darker. And moving the series to the latter part of the year could be done easier by having one year where the series was split between Spring and Autumn. For reasons best understood if you're British, the BBC isn't very keen on giving details of its broadcasting plans months in advance, for ITV and other channels to start planning tent pole rivals in the scheduling. So they weren't planning on telling people this too far in advance. But for anyone following the show, this move to the latter half of the year (and yes there will be a full 12/13 episode run in the Autumn) was expected, and debated some time ago. The majority of fans polled on this site, were okay with the longer delay.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Look at the dates. The reason seems obvious.

    by vadakinX

    It seems to me that Who is basically switching to a US schedule. It makes sense given the growing popularity of Nu-Who in the US. I'm not sure MoV's Olympics explanation holds water given that the Olympics start at the end of July and Who usually finishes up at the beginning of July (last year it finished at the end of June). It's a shame that Who is moving to the US schedule because I always liked having something to watch as we entered the summer months when most other shows are winding down for the season.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by damned-dirty-ape

    I wondered that myself. It's only been since BBC America have become involved that this splitting of series has occurred. I feel it totally stops momentum and can put a lot of people off. I just hope all this doesn't have too much of an effect. I'm pretty disappointed and hope the BBC aren't taking their cues from channels like syfy, because viewing numbers will go right down the crapper if so.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    @Man Of Vertue

    by ComicGuru

    >>>>Not now, and not anywhere in the near (or relatively distant) future. The simple fact of the matter is that the show works better during the dark evenings of Autumn rather than those horrible Summer weekends when everyone is out enjoying the sun or watching the Olympics, as they will be in 2012. It's nothing sinister, just good planning, that's all. To read any more into it isn't wise at all. There'll still be the *SAME* number of episodes produced, as I've been trying to tell everyone on here who'll listen, but I'll keep saying it until the cows come home if need be.<<<< Yes but the *SAME* amount of episodes produced will mean that next year we will get a reduction of the amount of New Who despite being promised on bended knee that the specials would negate the need for this happening for some considerable time. I and many others want and deserve more Doctor Who heading into the 50th Anniversary not less. For a show that is outperforming almost every other Drama series on British Television in terms of demographics, viewing figures, or total reach figures via Iplayer and market saturation we damn well deserve to keep our annual fix of Doctor Who not see it spread over into the following year. To get past this why not simply make more episodes. Don't give me any rubbish about workload either as many American series do 26 episodes a year with only two main leads. Okay that would mean a larger workload for Matt but how about supplementing his workload with stories featuring older Doctors that will begin the countdown to the 50th Anniversary Multi Doctor Spectacular. I'm quite convinced that viewing figures would not be an issue then. LOL.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Still looks like a 2012/13 split season

    by supertoyslast

    I'd love it if all 13 were shown in autumn 2012, but it seems that Doctor Who Magazine's confirmation of an autumn 2012 'start' does not necessarily mean next season will end in 2012. Despite man_of_vertue's earlier insistence that there will be no 2012/13 split.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    @DasInfoGod - Yeah, the BBC used to mess with Old Who

    by V'Shael

    all the time. Moved it from Saturday evenings, for example, to a midweek face off against the most popular soap of its era, which regularly got upwards of 20 million viewers. The BBC in the old days really looked like it was trying to kill the show. And there was a good reason for that. They were.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST


    by vadakinX

    Dude, I'm in Ireland. You're a couple of hundred miles East of me. We basically share the same weather and April/May/June, when Who usually airs, isn't exactly the hottest or most dry part of the year in this part of the world.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    There isn't a split as such.

    by ComicGuru

    >>>I'd love it if all 13 were shown in autumn 2012, but it seems that Doctor Who Magazine's confirmation of an autumn 2012 'start' does not necessarily mean next season will end in 2012. Despite man_of_vertue's earlier insistence that there will be no 2012/13 split. <<< I know what MOV is saying. There isn't a split as such because all the episodes will be shown back to back starting with episode one and ending in thirteen with the christmas special shown in the middle but it still means a reduction for 2012 no matter which way you spin it. With no SJA sadly and no confirmation of Torchwood it will be the barest year on record.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST


    by modernboy

    the *SAME* amount of episodes means the usual 13 episode series which is what we will be getting. we'll just be getting it later in the year so that the show airs in the fall. i'm not sure how that adds up to a reduction of new who for next year.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by ComicGuru

    It means only six or seven episodes plus Christmas Special will be shown in 2012. With no SJA or announcements on Torchwood that would be it for the whole year.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Season Split

    by Noel

    Moffat himself has said that there will be full seasons both in 2012 and in the anniversary year, 2013. We are not getting a reduced number of episodes.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    comicguru, either you aren't getting it or I'm not getting you..

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    13 episodes will be shown in 2012. They will all be shown in the autumn instead of split between spring and summer/autumn. That's what I am understanding from MOV. How on Earth does that translate into less Who?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Okay, I'll say it in a more simple way

    by Mister Vertue

    In the calendar year of 2012, which runs from January 2012 to December 2012, we will see a *FULL* series of Doctor Who. I haven't a clue where people are getting the notion that series 7 will start in 2012 and end in 2013. That just isn't the case. Where did you read that? Or what have you read to imply such a thing? The 2012 Christmas Special is currently planned to be produced *AFTER* production finishes on series 7. And no, there can't be an increase of episodes per series for many, many reasons. Comparing the production of Doctor Who with American shows is absolute nonsense. It's like comparing apples and oranges. A typical American tv show has a much greater budget than Doctor Who, and a hell of a lot more production staff. There's no way the BBC can finance a 24 episode 'season' of Doctor Who, especially not on a year-by-year basis. It's quite literally impossible. And to address one more point, BBC America had absolutely nothing to do with the change in tx schedule for 2012. Their influence is minimal, if not non-existant on such decisions. Seeing the show succeed in the States is great, but the primary market for the show remains the UK, and that will *NOT* be changing anytime soon. I don't think there's any room for confusion now, is there?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    About MOV's comments

    by DoctorTom

    Supertoyslast said - I'd love it if all 13 were shown in autumn 2012, but it seems that Doctor Who Magazine's confirmation of an autumn 2012 'start' does not necessarily mean next season will end in 2012. Despite man_of_vertue's earlier insistence that there will be no 2012/13 split. <br> Man of vertue said - Not now, and not anywhere in the near (or relatively distant) future. The simple fact of the matter is that the show works better during the dark evenings of Autumn rather than those horrible Summer weekends when everyone is out enjoying the sun or watching the Olympics, as they will be in 2012. It's nothing sinister, just good planning, that's all. To read any more into it isn't wise at all. There'll still be the *SAME* number of episodes produced, as I've been trying to tell everyone on here who'll listen, but I'll keep saying it until the cows come home if need be. <br> <br> Now, where did MOV say that there would be no split? He said the same number of episodes would be produced. They may (or may not) show some before and some after Christmas, or they may (or may not) show them all at once in the autumn. All MOV is saying that the same number of episodes will be produced. Supertoyslast, you're putting words in MOV's mouth. <br> <br> Now, it would be reasonable to assume that there might be a natural split around Christmas, so that there can be DVD sales of the first part of the season (which is what comicsguru is assuming), but it doesn't necessrily mean that. If they had started a full season when they showed Let's Kill Hitler - August 27, they could show the entire season and have it finish on November 19. November 22 you could put out the DVD box, just after the season ends. What day have they announced the full season 6 set for? November 22. So, technically it can be done and still have the DVDs out for Christmas.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    It's easier to hide behind the sofa when it's dark out!

    by sunspot_mike

    That's actually an awesome reason to change the scheduling. And I love the idea that they're taking the context of the main audience into consideration. We're the most loyal fans, but the bitchiest of the bunch. People are upset about scheduling, really?! We should be happy there's Doctor Who happening at all! Probably because it's been around for so long, it's such a personal thing and I think that hiatus in the 90's made it even more intense. And it was always kind of intense here in the USA because it was such a cult show. Anyway, I waited 10 years between the Paul McGann movie and Rose (Sci-Fi didn't carry it til 06). I can wait a couple of extra months.

  • MOV, thank you for clarifying things for us. <br> I do have one question though. I don't see it as having any effect on when season 7 will be shown, but it would be about when filming starts for Season 7. starting date for filming Season 7 at all? (I know, I know, if the 2011 Christmas Special is being filmed now, the last thing any of the production want to have to think about right now is when filming for the 2012 season starts. <br> If I recall the production facilities are moving for BBC Wales now or soon. Is this pushing back the starting date for filming Season 7 at all? It's just a point of idle curiosity of mine. (I think it's in the genes of sf fans to be interested in the process behind making tv series and movies, something that doesn't seem present as much in people who aren't into sf or wanting to break into the business.)

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Man_of _Vertue

    by notspock2

    There's always room for confusion...and controversy, and Ice cream and groundless accusations and jelly, definitely Jelly.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST


    by supertoyslast

    ...they will be *no* reduction in the amount of episodes we'll see in 2012. Some of you are *still* saying 'Oh, they'll show 6 episodes in 2012 and then hold back the others for 2013.' NO! This will absolutely, definitely *NOT* happen.

  • That's nice.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

    -Just so I've got this straight, Even though you're saying that we'll get the full seasons worth of episodes in 2012, are we going to have a larger gap before the next one starts (say, autumn), or will it also be split into two like this current season? - <br> <br> No, the gap won't be split into two. ;) <br> The show will come back in the autumn, so there will be a longer gap between Christmas and the start of next season.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    doctortom - edit

    by supertoyslast

    Dunno what happened there. I'll try again. Try following the link I put in my post and reading AICN exclusive by man_of_vertue: they will be *no* reduction in the amount of episodes we'll see in 2012. Some of you are *still* saying 'Oh, they'll show 6 episodes in 2012 and then hold back the others for 2013.' NO! This will absolutely, definitely *NOT* happen.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    I'm all for the Autumn being the home of Who

    by Rebel Scumb

    Moffat episodes, even back in the 4 RTD seasons always make me think of crispy autumn nights, sombre overcast days, and the leaves changing colours. Seems like the right plan to me. And spliting this year to make the transition as smooth as possible was very very smart.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

    - ...they will be *no* reduction in the amount of episodes we'll see in 2012. Some of you are *still* saying 'Oh, they'll show 6 episodes in 2012 and then hold back the others for 2013.' NO! This will absolutely, definitely *NOT* happen. <br> <br> Where did I say that they won't? I said may or may not, I only pointed out that from MOV's statement that they were still producing the same amount. From his later post (which went in while I was still typing my post where I said 'may or may not'), Man of Vertue made it clear we're going to see the episodes in 2012 as well as having them be produced. In fact, I pointed out how you can show them all in the autumn and still have the DVD's on sale for Christmas so that it's reasonable for them to be able to show the whole season in the fall. So why attribute statements to me claiming that I stated 'factually' that they'll hold episodes back? (I have to assume it was directed at me since your message header had only my name in it). <br> Please don't claim I've said things that I haven't.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Rebel, I'll agree with you

    by DoctorTom

    The autumn makes more sense to me for the episodes. Thinking back on Tom Baker episodes, those were custom made for watching when it was dark out and the wind was having tree branches scratching at the windows. Not so much for picnics and barbeques in the summer.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    MOV + confusion

    by Ed

    You are associated with a show entitled Dr Who, there isn't any way in the world you could state something simple enough that it WON'T get twisted, dialated and analyzed in every way you ever thought possible. Seriously. 14=14=14=14=14=14... right?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST

    To paraphrase Olson Johnson...

    by Dasinfogod

    Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebt to MoV for stating what needed to be said. I am particulary glad that these lovely children are here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic broadcast gibberish, it expressed the courage little seen in this day and age... I keed. I keed... Thanks man. I know BBC doesn't like to show their cards too far in advance, but you understand the passion the fans for their favorite show, especially if the only official island of Who is the 2011 Christmas Show until Fall 2012. Nine+ months is a long dry spell, but as others have noted we've historically weathered much worse... I apologize for bringing up BBCA, but there's still a bad taste in my mouth from the Starzification of Torchwood, if you know what I mean. Don't want to see that happen to the flagship show. Cheers, mate!

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Where did you read that?

    by supertoyslast

    There will be some episodes, but there won't be a full series, so we won't have a 13-part run,' he told the audience at The Church and Media Conference.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Production schedule

    by Mister Vertue

    I obviously can't give you dates yet, but filming is under way for the 2011 Christmas Special (as you already know) and should wrap in a few weeks. That gives both the actors and the production team time to either recover or pursue other projects for a few months before pre-production begins on series 7 (for which scripting has already begun). Episodes for series 7 will be filmed in the usual way (in blocks) in the first half of 2012 and once that's done, work can commence on the pre-production of the 2012 Christmas Special, along with the early planning for the big anniversary in 2013. Bloody hell, just typing all of that makes me want to hibernate for a million years. Surely *that* clarifies matters a little? It has to!

  • that there would be an Easter episode. Since I didn't hear anything about an increase in the number of episodes this didn't seem credible. <br> Although even less credible is Herc's thinking that there will be a movie made in the intervening time. This theory had certainly been shot down before by yourself as well as others. I'm surprised that, like C'thulhu, this speculation has arisen from its slumber to arise from the depths and foist its scabrous self on mankind again.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Doctor Who in the Autumn

    by Mister Vertue

    It just works better during darker nights, in the same way that Halloween does. It's all a matter of atmosphere. Yes, it means we'll have a larger gap between the 2011 Christmas Special and the opener of series 7, but it's just a bitter pill that we'll all have to swallow, and like somebody already pointed out, we did make it from 1989 to 2005 with no Doctor Who, apart from a tv movie in 1996. A roughly 9 month wait for new Who might seem like a long, long time, but it'll be totally worth it and the time will fly by, I promise you.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    MOV - A Clarification

    by vadakinX

    I wasn't suggesting that the show was moving to a full US season schedule with 20+ episodes. I was suggesting that perhaps the reason for the move was to take advantage of the US broadcasting season where the prime shows tend to begin in September. I certainly don't think the Olympics can be used as a reason for the dates change since Who doesn't air that late in July and as I've said already, Spring weather on this side of the Atlantic is more rain than sun. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind that the show is moving...OK I kinda do but in a way that makes me want new Who every week of the year. Whether it's because it may reach a larger audience in the US if aired in September or if it's as simple as the darker days of Autumn setting a tone for the season, it's fine. If it's a different reason, it's fine. I was just suggesting a possible reason, nothing more.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7 p.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

    I would suggest introducing the young'uns to season 12 Tom Baker when it gets dark a littler earlier. Having it dark and eerie out when you're watching Pyramids of Mars or Brain of Morbius (or even Planet of Evil, for that matter) helps accentuate the atmosphere wonderfully.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    When I was little it was on 10 at night on FRI and it was perfect!

    by sunspot_mike

    Seeing this strange mysterious show with weird aliens only on late nights when I could stay up just made me love it all the more. Giving kids the proper atmosphere means a new generation of fans who will grow up being addicted, just like we were.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    supertoyslast - I think you're confused

    by Mister Vertue

    Steven Moffat didn't even attend this year's Church and Media Conference, I can assure you of that. I think you're referring to Danny Cohen's mistaken comments at the event, and although he is controller of the BBC, he was mistaken nonetheless. The Moff stated afterwards, in no uncertain terms, that the production of Sherlock would *NOT* interfere with his duties on Doctor Who, or with it's production and scheduling. I hope that finally clears up the matter.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Man_of_vertue, thanks for the information!

    by DoctorTom

    I remember in the other thread you mentioning that the Season 7 episode 1 script was already finished and that the production people (except for the poor showrunner types who have to get more scripts ready in order to be able to film them later, no rest for the weary). <br> Thanks for letting me know that filming will begin during the first half of 2012. Compared to other years I think that's quite a bit later, though it sounds like there's not really any more time off for the people between the Christmas Special and the start of filming for the next season (though I'm going off of vague memories of when shooting started for earlier seasons and Christmas specials). <br> Sorry to make you want to hibernate!

  • Is the BBC going to show at some point the Nerdist special that BBC America is going to show after the airing of this week's episode? I would think that might be something of some interest in England to see the American reaction (though I don't think you want to get the 3 Doctor Who 'specials' that they put out a few weeks ago - well, maybe just the clip of Chris Hardwick calling Rory the South Park Kenny of Doctor Who, but not much else)

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST

    It helps with the lead-in to the 50th anniversary

    by performingmonkey

    That is in November 2013 (a day after the 50th of the JFK assassination). Moffat knows what's in store for us regarding episode numbers, scheduling etc. cause the deal has been struck. He just can't tell us yet. Though only 7 episodes in 2012 is very likely.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Just being selfish for a second...

    by Dasinfogod

    So now that the approximate nine+ month break is being confirmed, I would have hoped that this much-bandied about (and completely unsubstantiated) Easter special had taken place. Christmas is notoriously one of lowest rated TV viewing nights of the calendar year in the US, and has been that way since time immemorial. But in the UK the situation is exactly opposite - one-off episodes (like the Who ones!) are cranked out by the most popular series for Christmas and Boxing Day with huge numbers viewing. So it is understandable that the Beeb wants a Who-mas ep. But with Series 6 wrapping up shortly, the sting of the long break sure would have been lessened by shifting the one-off ep to Easter rather than Christmas to lessen the blow of the wait until Fall 2012. Just wishful thinking, but so it goes... Maybe a Comic Relief bit in March?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Sounds like they're syncing up with American TV schedule.

    by mistergreen

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Confirmed: No DOCTOR WHO talkbacks till Fall 2012

    by MooseMalloy

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    At this point I think if people aren't able to follow what you're saying, the fault lies with them, not you. I must admit, just reading you say things like 'the big 50th anniversary' gets me super jazzed up for 2013!

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    So ... This article is total nonsense and should actually be removed ...


  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST

    I can wait nine months

    by Greg

    I waited nine months to be born. Well, not really, I was premature. Still, loads better than earlier speculation that we would get no new Who in 2012. As long as what we end up getting is quality, I can wait a bit.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    moosemalloy, you're wrong

    by DoctorTom

    If you've been looking at the DocBacks, you can see that Merrick is planning on keeping weekly DocBacks going even when there aren't new episodes to watch.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Glass more than half full

    by History101

    So we get a christmas special in 2011 then in 2012-2013 we get spring special , a full series 7, a christmas special in the middle and then a 50th anniversary celebration. And all with in the next 24 months??? I am happy. Quality over Quantity any day.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:31 p.m. CST

    The fans WHO waited

    by batmancw

    They're turning us all into "Ponds" That's OK though The Doctor is worth the wait. After surveying much of the current crop of new and returning network shows, i am once again amazed at the crap that draws big ratings. I don't mind waiting when a show is as engaging as I find Who to be. All of Time and Space and A Madman with a Box gotta love it & if we get a well done big screen Who with Matt Smith as the Doctor as a bonus, I'm all for it

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST


    by Dasinfogod

    You've nailed it. The first three lines of Herc's story are the only relevant information. EVERYTHING that follows is unfounded "speculation" - a word Herc even uses to describe doctorwhotv's breakdown. As for any mention of a new Who movie, whenever it's mentioned, I just blip right over the sentence because it's just Talkback baiting, not reporting...

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Amy Pond had a breakdown

    by Wookie_Weed

    That could be the delay.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Again with the movie thing.

    by The Transformed Man

    How could a movie to be released next summer possibly be in production right now without anyone on the planet being aware of it? Moffat's got his hands full with DW and SHERLOCK. A movie would kill him. And if it was due next summer, there would be major movement on it by now.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Oh no, maybe this year's season was split because there was a movie this summer!

    by The Transformed Man

    And nobody knew about it!

  • And it's neat how the 50th anniversary happens to be on a Saturday, which is the day of the week on which the show airs. I just hope they've scored agreements with as many of the surviving Doctors as the can, and can work out some sort of CGI solution to the late actors. (And yes, also a solution/explanation for the advanced ages of the others from the classic series.)

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Oy... Not this crap again.

    by Perigee

    I thought everybody had the drill down by now; we've only gone through it like 50 times now. Count me as confused only in why there remains confusion. Some moron Speculates something, and everybody goes apeshit... Chicken Little ought to have a weekly weather report in here.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Wish BBCA would show the classic series.

    by The Transformed Man

    What's up with that? That could tide us over. And they could just be showing it anyway, months long wait on new episodes or not. Well, there's plenty out there on DVD.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by blackflowerX

    The BBc is just changing the time of year its shown. Thats it.<BR><BR> The show is shit now anyways , I couldn't sit through another pointless season .

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST

    I think Moffatt implied there was a big reason for the delay.

    by Hercules

    1) Just airing on the the exact anniversary date strikes me as a little shrugworthy. 2) If a "Who" movie starts shooting in a month I believe it could be in cinemas next summer. 3) Everybody thought I was wrong about Andy Bernard getting Michael Scott's job too.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST


    by Evilmeister

    Oh wait, wrong board. Seriously people, it won't be that long to wait. How many other shows do u have to wait for? It always seems like torture when your favourite show ends for the year and you know you will have to wait till next year to see it again. Isn't that what makes the show so special when you do get to see it again?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Oh for pitys sake!!!!!.....

    by sam jacksons wig we go again around the mullberry bush!! Until there is CONCRETE statement from the BBC that says "Yup- 14 episodes produced with only 6 or 7 to run in 2012, the rest to follow in 2013" and not some spurious rumour from doctorwhotv, then take it for granted we will get a full quota next year, abeit slightly later. And this bloody nonesense about a Who movie- eh???? What, with the production schedule they have now?? Give me a break!!! Oh, and wouldn't you think that if a movie was planned, they would actually LIKE to advertise it? You know, to get a little interest going??? Not everyone is Terrence fucking Mallick.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Not unhappy with this.

    by Peter

    It's an exhausting show to work on, so it seems. I'd rather have the key players relaxed and renewed than strung out. Also, it will definitely work better as an Autumn programme. Get everyone around the TV on those dark Autumn nights for an hour of spooky sci-fi fantasy! Whilst it may not be the key motivation for the change, synchronising with the US Autumn schedules will help to build the internation profile of the show, and the better it does in the colonies, the more likely it is they'll keep making it! I'm cautiously looking forward to many more years of Who.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:23 a.m. CST

    And if any Who production staff read this....

    by Peter

    ...any idea why we've had no follow-up stories form Paul Cornell? His Tennant two-parter was epic, elegaic, moving Doctor Who of the highest calibre. More please!!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:24 a.m. CST

    This wait isn't a new thing, people...

    by Mark Anderson

    ... because if you think about it, when the show returned in 2005 and right up until the first special (Planet of the Dead) there was always a nine month wait between the final episode of the previous season and the beginning of the next. Yes, there was a Christmas episode slapped in the middle but really, this idea of having to wait just under a year for series seven to begin in September of 2012 is, as far as I'm concerned, not a problem if it gets Doctor Who back on when the nights are pulling in and children are back in school, enacting scenes from the series in the playground. Really, everyone seems to be getting so hysterical over nothing! It's not like Auntie Beeb have cancelled the series, is it!?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Fuck the negativity on this non-DocBack thread!!!....

    by sam jacksons wig

    Don't mind constructive debate, but the fucking useless trolls are showing up in force here, fucking everyones way of life up. Fucking useless twats!!!!!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST

    its a winter show

    by Fourthwall

    needs to be dark, not light when kids may still be out playing. Sat early evening, winter was always Dr Whos best timeslot. It was a mistake when they moved it to weekdays in the eighties. Its clearly what MOV is returning to and I suspect feels natural to people living in the UK.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Winter Move

    by Noel

    When I were a lad (wibbly-wobbly) it was always dark and cold and windy outside when Who was on telly. Episodes were written by legends like Holmes and Dicks and Tom grinned madly as he spoke darkly of terrible events. Utterly terrifying. The dark, cold nights are what Moffatt needs for his stories and Matt and co. will bring a fresh ray of light into those. I can wait 9 months. I waited 16 years prior to that.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:56 a.m. CST

    MOV vs Movie

    by Master of Zinj

    MOV - I think there's something called the backfire effect in psychology where, the more you're presented with evidence of something that contradicts your own beliefs, the more you refuse to alter your beliefs. I'd give up now if I were you! That said, Herc's insistence that there is a movie coming is quite Amelia Pond-esque, so therefore kind of appropriate in a sad, romantic kind of way. Although, I personally wonder - why would we want a movie? It's an entirely different format. Dr Who works best as an episodic series. It's a space/time Odyssey. It's wibbly wobbly. It would have to be squeezed and confined and distorted to fit into a neat movie - as we saw with the TV movie. I'm quite happy with the two-parter-movie-length episodes. Also, I love the fact that it's moving to the autumn. I always felt a little uneasy and even disappointed when it started airing in the spring. Mystery and spookiness are inherent to Dr Who - dark nights suit it perfectly. Good move, Mr Moffatt.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Dream scenario (theory)

    by supertoyslast

    Doctor Who tends to begin on a Bank Holiday weekend. Usually Easter and, for the second half of this year, August Bank Holiday. If, as I hope, the 2012 series is broadcast in one uninterrupted run in the autumn it would make sense to start at the August Bank Holiday, ending in November. Then, a 2013 series of 13 episodes starting on Saturday 24th of the August Bank Holiday weekend would end on November 16th. It would then make sense to have a (feature length?) 50th anniversary special the following week. Along with the 2013 Christmas special, this would mean more episodes than usual in 2013, which I believe some people have talked about. This would mean that, for about half its run, Doctor Who would probably be directly up against The X-Factor. But I'm happy enough for this to happen as I feel Doctor Who properly belongs on dark evenings. I've always been in favour of the 2011 series being split *if* it was a way of gradually moving the whole series to autumn. (Not splitting the series would have left too large a gap until the next series). If it just led to more split series I was against it as it disrupted the flow of the story too much. So I really hope for an uninterrupted 13-episode run in autumn 2012.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:19 a.m. CST

    @Herc - When it comes to Doctor Who,

    by V'Shael

    most of the Docbackers would know more than you do. No shame in that. It's a UK show, and you're based in the US. But lines like 2) If a Who movie starts shooting in a month I believe it could be in cinemas next summer. aren't doing you any favours.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Cheers for the Office Spoiler herc!!!

    by Mr_P


  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:25 a.m. CST


    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    Calm down, fella - normal service will be resumed shortly! I'm another person without too many problems with having to wait a little longer next year - seems perfectly reasonable to put the show onto a different schedule track if it means the effect it has on kids is as spooky as it ought to be; it'll almost be that every episode will be a halloween special. Also, to Herc - having a transmission on the exact date of the 50th anniversary may seem a little shrugworthy, but even for someone like me, who probably isn't as hardcore a fan as some of the other talkbackers (and certainly I don't have as much history with the show), given how much Who is an institution over in the UK, it makes *total* sense for there to be a big shebang to make a point of transmitting on the 50th anniversary. Basically, if you're the longest running SF TV show in the history of the planet, these are the kinds of things you celebrate. Plus, it's on Auntie BBC, and Aunties *always* remember anniversaries and birthdays; even when the show was off-air they transmitted annoversary celebrations, so now the show's a flagship part of the schedule again, there's no conceivable way the Beeb won't make the most of it; I wouldn't be surprised at all if they made themed editions of Blue Peter in the run-up. Plus I'm sure that someone will be able to confirm that it is contrary to the BBC charter to make a movie that continues an ongoing TV narrative, thus making a Who movie next summer impossible, because I believe that was mentioned last time you raised this speculation.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:40 a.m. CST

    simple, doesn't want to clash with the sporting events

    by gomez33

    I think the obvious delay is that from June next year will see 9 weeks of sport on the BBC with the Euro football championships followed by the olympics. Alot of spring/summer programs will be delayed or brought forward.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Exactly MWAnderson

    by Rebel Scumb

    this isn't any additional time, infact the only year where that didn't happen was this year because of the season being split in two, which people ALso complained needlessly about. And any talk of a movie is rubbish until there is some thing substancial to back it up. I'll take MOV's word on the matter over Hercs any day.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Abed likes Couger Town!? Nooooooooo!

    by alexander

    It's a personal form of torture worse than watching Modern Family for me... It's me, not the shows.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Cougar Town

    by alexander

    For the love of Cox

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:21 a.m. CST


    by dj_bollocks

    I wonder if the 50th anniversary will have anything to do with JFK... I challenge the Moff to come up with something new on that story !

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:21 a.m. CST

    No cinematic movie - it wouldn't work.

    by tomdolan04

    and I do love Who. I expect half of season 7 in Autumn next year, an Xmas Special, the back half of Season 7 early 2013 FOLLOWED BY two or three multi-doc anniversary specials within a short time after it's S7's conclusion in the vein of the specials at the end of Tenants era culminating in Smiths regneration and ultimate departure.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST


    by tomdolan04

    Typing on a phone is tricky biz!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Herc, better leave the Doc news to others.

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    This talkback already has all the info that debunks your theory. You are wrong about this.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:41 a.m. CST


    by supertoyslast

    If it was a normal episode broadcast on the exact date, I expect it would be shrugworthy. But I'm guessing it will be a longer special with significant guest stars and a whole host of accompanying programmes to celebrate the event. I don't think the 50th anniversary is particularly shrugworthy to most UK Doctor Who fans. Hell, just look at all of the recent celebrations for Coronation Street's anniversary.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST

    No who movie next year

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    There willl be no Who movie next summer. If there is to be one, it will most likely be in 2013 for the 50th anniversary but i don't think this is in any way planned.. None of this though is a surprise as both Moffat and Smith stated a few weeks back that Who would be on later on in the year in 2012. Smith said that season 7 will not start filming till February 2012, When he said that it was obvious the show would be moved later on. I personally think it's a ratings issue, Who traditionally has always been in a winter slot, it's onlt RTD who bumped it up to spring when he took over.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Sad news, but better than expected

    by Jo Grant

    I thought we were getting a shorter 7th season, so at least rumor that appears to be wrong. On the other hand, I wonder if the long delay will have a negative effect on U.S. viewership? There has been a lot of momentum since the show moved to BBC-A, and I'd hate to see that change.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Fools! There Will Be A Doctor Who Movie Next Year!

    by veteran_of_mu

    I was wondering about a dramatic framework for Project Thyrsus. What could be more dramatic than (a) filling the 9 month hiatus with something cool, (b) exacting my fiendish revenge on MOV for not letting us write for the BBC and (c) MOOHAHAHAHA!!! Sorry, watched Curse of Fatal Death too recently. Now I've had a bit of time to think about how to render something rather more than a script, and I believe I have hit on the perfect solution. We will film it in Minecraft. Now this is a very good idea for several reasons. (1) it is very silly, (2) those who can't write are usually very good at modelling or at voice-acting, (3) it will be easy to recreate classic settings like Lake Silencio, Gallifrey, etc. without thinking very hard, (4) it will look *BETTER* than MOV's TV show and (5) MOOHAHAHAHA!!! Er, sorry. Got a bit ahead of myself again. So just as soon as me and the meanads get our premise and our script together we'll be looking for people who would like to do the modelling, acting, direction and video editing. If you happen to have skills along those lines, don't be shy. I think 9 months is plenty of time for us to turn out a cracking DW minecraft movie. And despite the MOOHAHAHAHAs I don't mean us to make a parody. I think we Docbackers have greatness in us. Don't you?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I do not have Dalek bumps. Stop thinking that.

    by veteran_of_mu

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Jogrant - Ever heard of Trekkies?

    by Perigee

    ~On the other hand, I wonder if the long delay will have a negative effect on U.S. viewership? There has been a lot of momentum since the show moved to BBC-A, and I'd hate to see that change. ~ We did a ten-year stretch back in the seventies with nothing but reruns on UHF TV and fanfic to amuse us; we'll weather this fine. One thing the world ought to know about us Americanos by now - once we get fanatical, we're tenacious little bastards. ~grin~

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Some Minecraft DW sets for Thyrsus ...

    by veteran_of_mu Love the cute li'l Daleks!

  • Didn't think we were going to let you clear things up with "facts" and "reality" did you MOV??? bwhahahahahahah. etc.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST

    supertoyslast - That's what I thought...

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    I'd be surprised to know that you'd have to be a Doctor Who fan to appreciate the spectacle of having a special episode on it's 50th anniversary (or for that matter on ANY program's 50th anniversary). And yes, it wouldn't be a bog-standard episode, surely, but a big deal culmination of a lot of elements coming together. Doesn't strike me as "meh".

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Hercules - oh dear

    by Mister Vertue

    I think any journalistic credibility you may have had has now been lost with your latest statements. 'Just airing on the the exact anniversary date strikes me as a little shrugworthy'? Who said it was *just* airing on the anniversary date? Yes, there will be an episode airing on the exact anniversary date, and it won't be any normal episode, but do you really think that in the anniversary year the BBC would only show one episode on the anniversary date? I'm guessing you worded your statement badly and meant something different, surely? And shrugworthy? This shows your contempt for the show and I'm sure that doesn't sit too kindly with some of the people who post here. I'd view them as your customers, so may I suggest you treat them with a little more respect? 'If a Who movie starts shooting in a month I believe it could be in cinemas next summer.' Very true, at least it would be if the actors and production crew were sitting around twiddling their thumbs with absolutely nothing else to do, which is most certainly *not* the case. Let's look at your schedule. Filming should wrap for the 2011 Christmas Special in the next few weeks. The crew then jump immediately onto your 'movie' and start filming that. They film that over the next month or so, taking them into Christmas (and of course, we're assuming that a movie-length script has been mysteriously written by the magical script elves). Series 7 is due to start filming in the early half of 2012, upon completion of the scripts by all contributors. Yeah, that seems fine. I'll pass the news onto everybody who works on the show and I'll get back to you with their reaction. And finally, you ruined the latest episode of The Office for those who haven't watched it yet. I don't think I need to say anything about that, it really does speak for itself. Thank God it's Friday and we'll have our regular Docback supervised by someone we all respect and who knows what he's talking about. Merrick, show them how it's done.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 9 a.m. CST

    Tabloid journalism

    by Mister Vertue

    Isn't what I expect to read on AICN. And we have Merrick to thank for that. Why? He has integrity and does his homework before writing his articles. Am I annoyed? Yes, I am slightly. Suffice to say, I'll be avoiding articles by Hercules like the plague just like I avoid the tabloids in the UK. Very sloppy and very disappointing. That's all I have to say.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Chill MOV!

    by Peter

    Yes, Hercules made a sloppy comment that had already been addresses repeatedly by yourself and other posters. But, anyone who cared got the message and understands the reasons why the show is being moved to the Autumn/Winter - because people want to do well by Doctor Who, and that's the best time for it to be shown. Anyway, will Johnny Depp be playing the Doctor in next summer's film? (Er, just joking!)

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    MOV- re: tabloid Journalism..

    by notspock2

    Do not whatever you do look in the archives for Harry's Blade 2 review. You'll never come back to the internet. I have to ask, before coming to the Docbacks, have you .. actually seen the site?, It's very often somewhere between the star wars cantina and 4chan (and if you don't know 4chan. DON'T LOOK) The Merrick Docbacks are a miraculous place on the internet and doubly amazing in that they happen on aintitcoolnews. Somehow here of all places, civilisation broke out, journalistic standards are upheld, and people are pretty much just plain nice. However, don't be too tough on Herc, though I don't think he's a fan, he's supported the show despite that, and gave us all a place to meet until Merrick took over.. He probably doesn't read the 1,000 post docbacks and has no idea of your credibility RE: this particular show... In short, let it wind you up if you want to be wound up...

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    man_of_vertue is a fraud ?

    by andy

    So i just asked the editor of Doctor Who magazine on twitter if he could confirm that man_of_vertue really is steven moffat. he replied : It's clearly not Steven, especially since a fair bit of what this person's saying is total rubbish. Steven doesn't post on forums Perhaps if it *is* the real steven moffat, he can post the word "man_of_vertue" on his twitter feed to prove it. If he doesn't....

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST


    by notspock2

    it really doesn't matter WHO he is... He's never said, so he can't be a fraud now can he? However he HAS shown himself to be a credible source, and jolly nice. Repeat the mantra. WHEN HE'S HERE, HE'S ONE OF US. Which means amongst other things, we respect his anonymity.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST


    by andy

    He's quite clearly claiming to be Moffat, and whilst he may be nice - if he's spreading info that is false whilst making us all believe he *is* Moffat - then i think everyone on here could do to know that. Don't you think ?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Regarding MOV...

    by Dither Sol Ox

    You fools actually think Moffat has nothing better to do than pretend to be a regular poster, all the while SCREAMING as loudly as he can and telling anyone who will listen to his "stories" that he's part of the creative team on Who? Idiots. All of you. Think. Use your stupid fucking brains. You've all been trolled... and worse, by a shitty troll who wasn't even convincing!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Yes, MOV is a fraud

    by catlettuce4

    He's simply a fan who lifts details from spoiler sites and then rephrases them to make it seem as if he's seen the episodes in advance. Then he fills the rest of his posts with comments like, "I'm proud of this episode" or "I'll see what I can do about the schedule" or "Damn this deadlines!" or somesuch. He's been scamming the guys in the Docbacks for months. Once you know which sites he lifts info from, it becomes laughably transparent. The call to "respect his anonymity" is ridiculous given how hard he works to make people think he works on the show. No-one's anonymity is damaged by revealing they're NOT who they tirelessly roleplay as being.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Go read Moffat's twitter

    by Dither Sol Ox

    He doesn't speak anything like MOV. Is MOV someone else other than Moffat that works for the production of Who? Possible. But not likely. No one who wished to remain anonymous would constantly blabber about all their supposed insider info. Now, watch as MOV -- realizing the gig is up -- runs away. You've all been had.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Being lectured on trolling by dither-sol-ox...

    by notspock2

    is an ironic high point of my life, I don't think I'll live long enough to exceed, even if I live forever... Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    @yoda's ball sack...

    by 11dayempire

    NO, a Time War movie would be a terrible idea. Classic example of fans wanting everything that's alluded to spelled out on screen for them. When Obi-Wan talks about the Clone Wars in Ep4, it sets up an impossible weight of expectation among Star Wars fans. The Clone Wars shown on-screen could never live up to those expectations. Likewise, a Time War movie could never match the Time War movie playing out in fans' heads. All of which leaves aside the notion that a Time War - a war fought in four dimensions - is not going to be about armies of Daleks flying through space. It's about popping back into your enemy's history and killing his grandma before he can pop back and kill your grandma. It's something that our three-dimensional brains can't even conceive of in its full complexity.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    MOV has said he is not the Moff. Nuff said. Leave him alone, trolls

    by HornOrSilk

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by Dither Sol Ox

    Nothing is gonna change the fact that you are supporting a fraud. You're in the denial stage now, where you think you're backing Moffat or someone on the production crew, but you'll eventually realize what a numpty you've been. There'll be a handful of you suckers desperately trying to defend MOV and his despicable impersonation attempt, but the truth will hit you eventually. Meanwhile, have fun bending reality for as long as you can. After all, the truth really does hurt.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by HornOrSilk

    I'm glad to read you will stay with the normal DocBacks. Good. Don't let the trolls keep you away.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    hookbeak, with all due respect, quit making yourself look stupid

    by DoctorTom

    Man_of_Vertue has always stated that he is NOT Steven Moffat. He has never claimed to be Moffat. He has always stated otherwise, so where are you getting this crap that he's 'clearly claiming' to be him? <br> And, despite all the SGU stuff in the past (which had actually become a running gag near the end), I will give full props for dither-sol-ox for calling you out on the trolling.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    As a matter of fact, MOV's true identity...

    by DoctorTom that he is the Stig. Not the one who wrote the book about being Stig, or the Emergency Stig they roped in, but one of the other Stigs. It's a fact: MOV is the Stig. <br> And so am I.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    doctortom -- dither is also trolling

    by HornOrSilk

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Don't let the trolls keep you away.

    by Dither Sol Ox

    HHahahahahaha... Don't let the "trolls" keep the biggest troll (MOV), of them all from continuing to troll you morons? This is great! LMAO Congrats MOV! Go get 'em! You people deserve to be clowned.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by Perigee

    When we want your opinion, we'll shoot ourselves.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    is doctor who the new harry potter?

    by 510XH01573R

  • If they were shooting next month they would have to be deep in pre-production for it now, and you'd want to have the script written. Moffat is working on scripts for Season 7 now. He hasn't had time to have written a script yet for any hypothetical non-existent movie. If he was going to do a Doctor Who movie he wouldn't just be taking the scripts for the Peter Cushing movies and changing the names to The Doctor, Amy and Rory - he'd be creating a new script or at the very least supervising someone else writing it. And there would have been word of that before now. <br> And having an episode on the date of the 50th anniversary is far from shrugworthy. There's far too many people who will want that (especially in England).

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Don't shoot yourself...

    by Dither Sol Ox

    Keep drinking kool-aid from the internet impersonator. Never know, you might end up on a comet on its way to Heaven!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Horn - Although by this point I thought he'd be trolling about Alphas

    by DoctorTom

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    doctortom read his posts, he is in on the attack against MOV

    by HornOrSilk

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST


    by notspock2

    Wait, I don't care...

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    does doctor who believe in abortion?

    by 510XH01573R

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    On the attack...

    by Dither Sol Ox

    On the attack against MOV.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    I caught that after the first one

    by DoctorTom

    I had it the wrong way, still, him lecturing about trolling is amazing. And, he's been stargate free so far <br> And, it's obvious he doesn't really read MOV's posts or he'd know the truth. <br> I don't see Moffat having reindeer wrangling issues the way MOV was describing his one workday (note: this was weeks before any Doctor Who, so it wasn't for that, and I don't see where there would have been reindeer involved)

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Is Herc trying to sabotage the Docbacks?

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    With his nonsense post about a Doctor Who movie, which he has done in the past as well. I think goofy stuff like this will ruin the Docbacks to the point they are just another shitty AICN talkback.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Not on the attack

    by Dither Sol Ox

    Was trying to do some of you a favor and point out the obviousness of MOV being an impersonator. But you guys still need to go through your denial phase. And then you must decide if you will accept the truth or if your ego's are too wounded by the fact you got taken for a ride and made fools of. I believe some of you are smart and honest enough to eventually have a good laugh about it. Some of you, anyway.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

    MOV has always stated that he's NOT Moffat. So, please, feel free to tell us how you can be an impersonator of someone you keep stating that you're not. Beyond him not being Moffat, it doesn't really matter who he is (as we know in the DocBacks). <br> Though I still think he's the Stig. (Let me know if you don't get the reference.)

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    doctor who should be johnney depp

    by 510XH01573R

    and tim burton

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    oops, let me try that again, mj's ghost

    by DoctorTom

    I don't know if it's deliberate or not. <br> At least it gives the trolls a pen to play in while Merrick hosts threads for civilized discussion of Doctor Who beyond 'Doctor Who RuLZ' or 'Doctor Who SuXxOrS'.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Why would the Doctor want to be Johnney Depp?

    by DoctorTom

    Or even Johnny Depp? Depp never married Marilyn Monroe. The Doctor has. The Doctor wins.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Re: MOV. The fact is...

    by catlettuce4

    That half a dozen or so people from the weekly Docbacks (inc. notspock2, hornorsilk, doctortom...) have completely bought into the idea that MOV works on the show. Bought into it so hard that they hate the topic being raised, because they believe he comes here for "anonymity". So, does it matter if he wants to roleplay and they want to play along? Well, yeah, it does. Because I've often seen MOV argue from a position of fabricated authority. You can see him do that in this very thread. I've seen him outright lie to people, including Merrick. I've seen him reference Moffat's wife and kids, which I can't imagine SM would be thrilled by. He's obviously a DW fan, so I don't know why he doesn't converse as such, instead of filling his posts to the brim with this borderline creepy impersonation. And like I said, he's not even part of the Doctor Who team at all. *All* his advance info is lifted from spoiler sites, and then he lies and says "Here are some of my favourite moments of the upcoming episode". Nice guy.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    chucknorrissayshi - hi there!

    by DoctorTom

    Glad to see you back around. I guess you're killing time until the new DocBack shows up.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST

    MOV is clearly...

    by Dither Sol Ox

    pretending to be someone on the production team - whether it's Moffat or someone else. You can be in denial about that all you like. You need some time to reconcile how easily you were fooled. You and others will get there eventually. I can only imagine how hard "MOV" is laughing at the lot of you...

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Stop the MOV hate its retarded. whoever he is, he's a nice guy

    by Evilmeister

    The docbacks are civilised places for us all to achieve our own personal nerdgasm about Dr Who. Now, off with you and go be lively!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Merrick, I think it is about time we take the Docbacks elsewhere.

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    AICN is just troll city.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    MOV is a nice guy?

    by Dither Sol Ox

    Impersonating a production team member on Who is being a "nice guy"? wow Just wow... I strongly caution you to be careful of emails about the African Prince willing to share his money with you. Don't do it, no matter how much sympathy he tries to derive from you. And whatever you do, don't let some religious person trick you into drinking kool-aid. Don't do it, no matter what they tell you about it taking you to heaven.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    MJG- this isn't an official docback, so it's anything goes...

    by notspock2

    come over to the lovely official one, which just opened.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Nom nom nom...

    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    /Quote May 09, 2011 3:33:17 PM CDT notspock2 by man_of_vertue I am absolutely, positively, 100% *NOT* SM. I'm sure he's got much better things to do with his time than hang out on a website with other Doctor Who fans. I'm sure he's still recovering from press junkets on both sides of the Atlantic, touching up episodes from series fnarg part 2, pulling his short and curlies out (from his head and not anywhere else) from writing series 2 of Sherlock, as well as juggling his time with being a husband and father of two. I'm almost certain he also has one or two other things going on in his private and professional life to keep him occupied too, wouldn't you think? Who the hell would have time to hang out here with all that on his plate? Not SM, that's who. /End Quote Nom nom nom...

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Dear trolls:

    by Andy Buckle

    I think that I speak for most of those that regularly frequent the weekly DocBacks when I say that I look forward to MOV's contributions. He's clearly someone who is very passionate about Dr Who and I hope he sticks around despite the negativity of some people on this thread. It really doesn't matter who he is, he's a supporter of the show and that's alright by me. Funnily enough, I don't care who the assorted trolls are either. I just wish they'd sod off. Anyway... it's a while to wait for season 7, but we've had to wait MUCH longer in the past (thank you Michael Grade). I'm all for the autumn scheduling too - Who always did work better when the nights were drawing in. I do wish the Beeb would think about showing some classic Who to tide us over - come on folks, it doesn't have to be prime time, stick it on BBC 4 somewhere. We'd find it!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    At the end of the day, Dither-Bol-OX


    I'd rather have a conversation on AICN with MOV, whoever he might be, than you. And so would most of the people who regularly post in the weekly docbacks. I don't really care who he is. He's enjoyable to read whereas you just come across as an asshole. So fuck off.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Herc, hope you enjoyed this with two bags of popcorn.

    by wtriker1701

    And a coke or a beer... Even Diox came back: Rock'n Troll!

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Marilyn Monroe is fucking ugly

    by 510XH01573R

    she looked retarded, probably was.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Marilyn Monroe

    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    was bigger on the inside.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST


    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    No, no toblerones - those are next week.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Ah bugger - wrong thread.

    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    Silly me!

  • Marilyn's outsides aren't shabby either.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    So, ithrat, if we are to summarize MOV's posts,

    by DoctorTom

    we get that he IS Steven Moffat, that there's going to be a split season for season 7 with the second half going into 2013 because of the movie that's going to start filming now and to give them time to finish the Easter special. <br> <br> The way people are claiming that he said things he didn't, we might as well take the whole kit and kaboodle and distort everything 180 degrees so that it's the opposite of what he said. It will make it easier for the people to misquote it later - they can just cut and past the crap that's in the first paragraph in this post.

  • I also suspect the cummerbunds are next week and not this week.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by Ithrat Cordwallis

    whatever the absolute truth is, I expect that the character of MOV is to a greater or lesser extent roleplay; the character of ithrat_cordwallis certainly is. If you want to know the truth*, I am by nature angry and ugly and live beneath a bridge - I just pretend to be otherwise when I come on the internet. *Might not be the truth.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    That's okay ithrat

    by DoctorTom

    I'm not a troll, but I play one on tv

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    by catlettuce4

    And in a few minutes MOV will appear and pretend to be upset and say he is quitting the forum. People will beg him to stay and he will relent. He's playing the game really well

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    What the fuck is Herc going on about a movie for?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Doesn't he know anything about Doctor Who or the way the BBC works?! Fucking hell.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    I don't know, but he should leave the Doc articles to Merrick.

  • about the new Trek series rumours having 'no substance to them' when he has now created two seperate articles based on the notion that there will be a Doctor Who theatrical film based on... It staggers the mind that anyone could be this bad at their job.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    The Doctor NEEDS to be an American!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Until then fuck Doctor Who.

  • >>>>>13 episodes will be shown in 2012. They will all be shown in the autumn instead of split between spring and summer/autumn. That's what I am understanding from MOV. How on Earth does that translate into less Who? <<<<< That isn't what the BBC are saying. They have said that the series will only get six or seven episodes in 2012 while the rest will be shown in the 50th anniversary. Whichever way you spin it. If the BBC are to be believed then the series will not have all its episodes shown in 2012. With no SJA or no word on Torchwood that will be a massive reduction of episodes a year before its 50th Anniversary. And that is pretty much what we know for certain.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST

    This show needs a showrunner who isn't distracted

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    by that mediocre at best Sherlock reboot. That doesn't mean I was a big fan of RTD, he was too operatic.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Oylmpics is main reason BBC is not going

    by bauerpowerhour24

    have Who on next summer at all summer Olympics will be huge $$$$$$$ for BBC they wont need Who

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Direct response to Man Of Vertue

    by ComicGuru

    >>>>>In the calendar year of 2012, which runs from January 2012 to December 2012, we will see a *FULL* series of Doctor Who. I haven't a clue where people are getting the notion that series 7 will start in 2012 and end in 2013. That just isn't the case. Where did you read that? Or what have you read to imply such a thing? The 2012 Christmas Special is currently planned to be produced *AFTER* production finishes on series 7.<<<< First off we read interviews with various people at the BBC on sites like Doctor Who News and BBC News etc and there were reportings of speeches at various conferences by people at the top who told us that Doctor Who would only be partially shown in 2012. The Private Eye Article had a lot of very interesting stuff which also backed this up and Moffatts own tweets also implied that what had been said in those BBC Interviews and the Private Eye article had some basis in truth. The recent departure of Beth Willis went some way to also corroberate some of what had been saying and friends on the production side of Doctor Who basically told me outright that there was some basis in truth to these articles but would not be drawn any further. There has been *NO* official denial that the next season of Doctor Who would all be shown during that year in fact numerous articles and interviews had indicated or plainly said the opposite. So unless you are privvy to actual insider information (which you claim not to have) then where are you getting your information from? On a personal note I would be extremely relieved if the season was being entirely shown before Christmas as I have been a huge advocate of moving the show to Autum since it came back. What I don't want is a dilution or a reduction for the show in any way. Anything that seems to be damaging the show or for the show should be outed for what it is in my honest opinion. Moffatts Reign is certainly not one of them. I absolutely love this show and it is going from strength to strength. More plesae!

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST


    by cushing1967

    That's traditionally when the BBC launches its Autumn / Winter schedules. Merlin is starting in a couple of weeks, a few years ago Robin Hood was in that place of the schedules and even things like Spooks etc start in September. I don't watch Merlin so have no idea if it is coming to an end but it makes sense that Doctor Who would take its place in the schedules. I would think that we will get all the 14 episodes of Doctor Who in 2012 starting round about the beginning to middle of September. The BBC have never, to my recollection, run a series like Doctor Who pre Christmas and then after Christmas as Jan is traditionally when the next slate of programming begins. It's absolutely perfect in my mind

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST

    It isn't dark outside when the show airs in Autumn at all.

    by Smashing

    It's still broad daylight, just as it is in the summer. Also Who would be great counter Olympic programming and the BBC has FOUR channels to air shows on.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Tonally, it works better in the fall ...

    by unfaithfullyyours

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    unfaithfullyyours how?

    by Smashing

    Its still light, bright and warm, what exactly makes it work tonally better in September? and why are so many people saying that when the viewing figures are the same as when it was aired in the "summer"? Your memories of watching it in October and November as a child? when the seasons still existed?

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Agreed Sam

    by Rebel Scumb

    I'm sticking to real docbacks from now on. Lesson learned.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by DoctorTom

    Show the whole season and you get into November. It's not light bright and warm then.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Maybe Grand Moffatt wants to focus on Sherlock?

    by Royston Lodge

    I'd be happy with a full season of Sherlock before the next season of Who.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    throwmetheidol-that comment of yours is so wrong it's hilarious

    by DoctorTom

    -This show needs a showrunner who isn't distracted by that mediocre at best Sherlock reboot. That doesn't mean I was a big fan of RTD, he was too operatic. <br> We'll just say you're wrong on Sherlock and leave it at that, but that isn't what's so funny about what you posted. <br> You're wanting a showrunner who wasn't distracted by another show, then go on to cite RTD, who was producing Doctor Who, Torchwood AND Sarah Jane Adventures. Now, which one had more distractions?

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST


    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Did you not read the part where I said not to interpret my comments as wishing for RTD? He was not good enough for several reasons. Next time don't attack before you stop and think.