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Harry's been watching the STAR WARS Saga on Blu Ray all day... and still is...


I don’t know about you, but STAR WARS is a big fucking deal to me.  If you look around my house, you wouldn’t necessarily think it, but you see… In an odd way STAR WARS and reading about STAR WARS led me on a greater path of cinema that I’ve explored my entire life.


I was already a film fan when I first saw STAR WARS upon original release here in Austin, Tx.  But it was the first movie that I bought toys for.  That I saved my pennies for.   That I bought magazines, just because it had images of STAR WARS upon them.   Thus I discovered STARLOG, that put me on the path to finding out about movies before they came out.   In Lucas’ interviews he mentioned Joseph Campbell and Akira Kurosawa with reverence, he talked about John Ford, Howard Hawks, Alfred Hitchcock, ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD – which was already my favorite film.   So I asked my Dad about them.   And my father showed me EVERYTHING.   It created a language between the two of us where I’d have endless conversations about what they could do in the next Star Wars and Dad would hand me Burroughs & Heinlein at a very early age.    STAR WARS is part of my primary love of cinema.   I follow the careers of almost everyone that was a part of it.   Knowing Phil Tippett was doing Stop-Motion in ROBOCOP made sure I went, although it sounded utterly retarded otherwise.   Thus I discover Verhoeven.  This film is why I saw David Lean’s films early in life.  I was obsessed with Ben Kenobi – and my father told me OB1 was in other films.   Suddenly I was seeing LAWRENCE OF ARABIA & DR ZHIVAGO at the Paramount Theater as a kid.   Watching STAR WARS on a double bill with SCHLOCK: THE BANANA MONSTER led me to Landis early – and I realized that Rick Baker was a part of both.   This led me to collecting Monster Masks.


You see…  The STAR WARS toys at the time were simply the best things ever.   The Video Game was epic.   The film friends I have ranging in age from my Father to my 11 year old Nephew…  we all talk STAR WARS.  It is a vernacular of geek that I speak.  So as the GEEK NATION has seemingly gone bugnuts insane about “NOOOOOOOOO! 2.0” – I have quietly sat it out.  


You see, I hate modern STAR WARS fandom to a large degree.   STAR WARS was what united us…  This “raping of my childhood” crap just kills me.  For me at least, he taught me to stare in the night sky and dream.   He taught me to appreciate sunsets.  OB1’s death traumatized me.  Aunt Beru burnt up & so did my mother.   Luke on Tatooine was what I compared to my time in North Texas, during my parents divorce.   Working on cars, tractors, irrigation, fertilizing fields…  Having to drive 30 minutes to get anywhere.  Through all of it I heard John Williams’ score, believed in my own Hero’s Journey and lived happily through things I didn’t want to have to live through.   I wanted to learn the ways of the force like Luke…  My father equated it to BOY SCOUTS, so I became an Eagle Scout.  


I collected ALL the toys in a pre-Ebay world.   As they came out.  My Uncle sent me foreign releases of STAR WARS toys, like from Germany & Italy.  I sold them in the early 90s and paid for my College Education with them, and other collectibles.   Since then, I haven’t really collected much STAR WARS stuff, simply because it was actually painful letting go of it later in life.   There’s a few pieces around here.   I’ve got a EMPIRE STRIKES BACK poster that has gathered autographs from pretty much everyone hanging in the hallway to the bedroom, there is a  robotic R2 unit that hangs out with WALLE,


So excuse me if I can’t quite HATE George Lucas.  Reading about what he loved and appreciated has led me on a journey to discover what PULP fiction was as a kid.   So I read THE SHADOW, DOC SAVAGE, Alex Raymond FLASH GORDON stories, I’d met Buster Crabbe and seen those serials.   But reading John Williams interviews got me to appreciate and love movie scores.   Reading about Ben Burtt made me pay attention and collect SOUND EFFECTS albums.  


These films taught me a pathology with which I look at film.   Created an unquenchable thirst for movie knowledge, appreciation and history.   STAR WARS was so cool, that everyone I ever knew as a kid agreed.   We all loved STAR WARS.   We had all seen it. 


I wouldn’t know how to stop being fascinated with the goings ons of the Galaxy Far Far Away.   Listening to George over the years.   Hearing how his divorce affected him and the franchise.  The long years of nothing new.   The wasteland where my friends dreamed of the Prequels and the still legendary 3rd trilogy.   We collect and share this information like kids used to with the great old Baseball teams.   This shit has had me addicted to NASA forever.  


Hearing that George was continuing to play with HIS films, I just can’t get pissed all over again.   I did that 15 years ago.   But I still was able to enjoy it.   More than anything, I was fascinated by the demo of CG.   It began to prepare me for what his visual aesthetic for the Prequels would go nuts on.   BUT…  I know STAR WARS.  We  old school STAR WARS fans have heard about changes in different prints of STAR WARS that played around the country.   Slight deviations.   Deleted scenes.   Radio plays.   Marvel Comic series drawn by Al Williamson – who was a friend of my parents…  and then Dad handed me EC COMICS…


You see, STAR WARS just connects to it all. 


The CHESS SET, reading it was done with Stop Motion animation, but just knowing it was supposed to be HOLOGRAPHIC displays…  well, it’s made me always love Holograms and 3D imagery.   It was a film that had a COMPUTER CONTROLLED CAMERA.   This was the future.


So yeah, while the world has been bitching, I’ve been mostly ignoring it.  When folks would bring it up, I would simply say…  Of course George is changing it…  he thinks he’s a cinematic painter – and everytime a painter would display an old painting, they sometimes tweaked it.   This belief has made me think that George Lucas is like Salvador Dali for me.   I love his original works most.  As he got older & more eccentric, I appreciated his original classic designs, and was amused by his later cluttered work, incorporating old ideas with later life obsessions.   Lucas  is making all this stuff not for you or me, but for himself.   So when he looked at putting this film on Blu Ray – it was after filming the Prequels and he decided to make Jedi have an Echo to the 3rd film of the Prequel…  Because…  he can.   He owns his negatives.   He controls His Movies absolutely.   He’s pretty much the only guy out there that can do that.  He convinced Spielberg he was right, until Spielberg realized that it wasn’t for him.  


But honestly – I don’t want George to change.   STAR WARS is the story of George Lucas.   It is the great work of his life.   My generation has been entertained by it for our entire conscious lives.   Do I prefer the original cuts?  Absolutely.   Just like I prefer the original cut of BLADE RUNNER – with the narration.   Is it absolute bullshit that we don’t get EVERY ITERATION of STAR WARS?   Yes.


Is this BLU RAY the be all end all?


No.   I want the original Test Print of Star Wars that had all the WWII footage in.   I’d like to have every edit of Star Wars from now till Lucas dies.   For me…   STAR WARS is the great passion of my generation.   Changing entertainment forever and singlehandedly defining WHY MOVIES ARE IMPORTANT for multiple generations.   I don’t dedicate it to memory, I only own a Chewbacca costume, bought for last Halloween, it ruled!  But for me, the question of buying the Trilogy or the Saga was taken away from me.   No, I didn’t get sent them free.   But at 5:30 am this morning, Yoko snuck out of bed, went to WalMart and bought the whole Saga for $80.   And when I woke up this  morning, sitting upon my computer was the Complete Saga…  and a C3PO in his Ewok mobile throne.   She loves the Ewoks.   Nobody’s perfect.  Giggle.


So, now I have the BLU RAYS…  what do I do first?   Well, on my Facebook wall a fella said the STAR WARS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL was featured on the Boba Fett Costume page of the Supplementals for the original trilogy.   SO… 2nd Special Features disc… Chapter V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, Imperial Chase – Boba Fett Costume…   There’s a Video…  Click…  Could Lucas really put the whole STAR WARS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL out where we can watch it?   No, of course not.   But he does put the whole CARTOON from the Xmas Special – which made me first think of Boba Fett, a toy I had sent off proof of purchases for…   he had a real firing rocket…  ahem…   You see, Lucas has trained me to be disappointed.   FROM THE BEGINNING.   How is this new?  It’d be like if all my relatives acted rationally on Christmas…  it just wouldn’t be Christmas.   At this point, STAR WARS is that thing I love to occasionally gripe about, but that I love.


At the premiere of the COMIC CON doc up in Toronto, I found myself in a Green Room surrounded by Storm Troopers, Vader, Jedi Luke and Orig Leia.   And I was totally at peace with an event that I had every right to be nervous at.   The Force was with me.   If that makes me sound like Rick Perry talking about God giving him Supernatural Rain signs…  Whatever, it keeps me going through the motions.   Keeps me happy.   And that’s something we can never begrudge another…  their happiness.  


SO – after checking out the cartoon, I backed all the way out to the main screen and started diving into the Deleted Scenes.  




Just, smile so big the tears roll.   Now sure…  George could have spent money to fix up the negatives…  maybe get John Williams to score the Tosche Station scenes…   but ya know.   I’ll take it in the rough.   And my god I love it.   The extra Star Wars chicks?   Han smooching on some Cantina Hussy.   That whole extended Cantina scene is in high contrast black and white, making it kind of look like Kubrick’s THE KILLING…  but, ya know…  with aliens from a 1000 worlds and what not.   While I was going through this, a fella on Twitter said, “Just wait for the Wampa Attacks!” And my eyes rolled over into the back of my head and the taste of Quint’s blood was in my mouth as he softly itched my nose with his toothpick.  


Just…  This shit.   This is my DEAD SEA SCROLLS.   Lost chapters of the Bible.   Things only ever half seen, lost in the memory of time.   This is my MISSING SPIDER SCENES from KING KONG.   Except here they really are.   He didn’t have to go shoot them again.   Watching Phil Tippet in a RANCOR MONSTER costume… ya know, MAN IN SUIT style…   HOLY SHIT man!   I never thought I’d actually see that shit.   I mean.   I just saw that shit.  


So…  “NOOOOOOO!” – yeah, fucking Lucas man...   It’s hard out here for a Geek.  


But really.   It’s an eye roll.   One of many.   I mean.   When we just had STAR WARS…  we still made fun of Luke’s Power Converters.   My Dad has always dislike 3PO – and he’s fucking crazy.   Crazy is a part of STAR WARS.   I mean – seriously…  we get crazy about this shit.   We go nuts obsessive compulsive.  


You may be ready for that relationship to end.   You may be rushing to grow up.   But the Force is strong with me.   So strong, that I can endure the Emperor’s taxes that he heaps upon me.   For one day, these films will be available in dozens of iterations that we can all individually pay for and stream.   So we can fully understand just how fucking indecisive and incomplete George has felt these films to be.   George is not the only filmmaker to change his films.   The only time it has ever been done that I feel has been done completely successfully, was with ALIENS, ABYSS & TOUCH OF EVIL.   But so long as we remember how it is suppose to be, we share that with each other.   We tell new friends.   We keep the memory alive.   That’s good.


The physical transfers are gorgeous.  EMPIRE is breathtaking.   It’s the special edition, but I’m really fond of the EMPIRE SE.   The changes are less blasphemous, not that anything was needed in EMPIRE… but personally it is by far my favorite of the SPECIAL EDITIONS.   I really hate the added effects to the Death Star explosion which was just a magical, simple shot originally, and now has an outdated shockwave effect that isn’t even right or aesthetically pleasing today.  


I think what it really comes down to is this.   The vast majority of these films are exactly the films I fell in love with.   The additions remind me that this is not yet MY STAR WARS, but GEORGE’s.   Mine will come in time.   Just as I long for the Moroder METROPOLIS, because that’s the version I first fell in love with.  


Watching the Blus of the original trilogy, you notice things…  mainly with Leia…   How damn good she looks.   STAR WARS – trash compactor scene…  it’s almost distracting how clingy her outfit is, and it looks amazing.   The aging of all the props and locations… the detail is just amazing.   I’ve just begun going through this stuff today, but already 11 hours have gone by, with complete good times.   The deleted scenes alone made me look at the scene in wonder.   When I showed my friend Flesh Gordon the SAND STORM in Jedi…  a legendary scene I’ve wanted to see since I first read the script years ago.   Like…  when I was 16.   That’s 23 years.  CHECK!


Ultimately the decision is yours.  The only way to get the awesome Extras is to get the whole SAGA – and yeah, that’s a bit of a jackass move…  But I’m really curious to see that better animated Yoda in Phantom Menace…  and curious to revisit that trilogy.  It’s been a while.


Hell, I’d have paid $80 at a convention just to briefly watch the Jedi SANDSTORM sequence.   This isn’t all that I want, but honestly…  I’m fine with bitching for years about just wanting pristine original versions of all the films.   Of rough cuts, of every edition at every stage of production.   Cuz I would watch that shit.   I’d watch Animatic versions of the triogy.  


If you’ve been following me on twitter, you’ve probably been getting a lion share of tweets throughout the Original Trilogy screening.  And then, I can’t wait to go through with the commentaries.   There’s a whole lot to watch left, and I get the feeling I’ll never see all there is to see.  I just hope I will.  And most of all, I love that I get to talk with fellow fans about it.   Discuss the rights of ART versus the ARTIST.  To discuss memories of enjoying the series, the toys, the games, a bedroom set, a waffle iron, a Disney ride, John Williams, B movies, Serials, Pulp story telling, Joseph Conrad, Akira Kurosawa, Erich Wolfgang Korngold, that day in 2nd grade with Josh Burnham stood up when asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, and he stated loudly and proudly, “I want to be Darth Vader and cut your big tits with a lightsaber” and how Josh ran – and 5 boys including myself ran after him.   I went to head him off and caught him.   It was an awesome young memory.   Saving pennies for Action Figures at Safeway and the exasperated clerks that gave me coin rolls and begged me not to bring in a sack of pennies.  


Ya know, just there…   All those memories of STAR WARS.   The times I’ve been to Skywalker Ranch.  The parties at Convergence with Chewie and just watching that man walk is like the best thing ever.   Buying Lego sets for my Nephew.  How Mark Hamill is like one of my favorite people that I’ve never met ever.   Meeting John Williams while watching NAKED UNDER LEATHER.   I’ve talked STAR WARS with fans on every continent save Africa and that really cold melting one.   


I’m a fan of a lot of things.   There’s very few I love like I love STAR WARS.   But I have to say…  Blinking Wicket is some eerie shit!  Nightmares!   In kind of a good creepy way. 


That’s all I’ve got for now.   If anything leaps out at me in the prequels I’ll update below.   But I’m really enjoying this!


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  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!

    by Se7en

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    How is TPM holding up? That and Ep 2 are the ones I'm waiting to see. I know the others will be great.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    who cares

    by MainMan2001

    star wars sucks at this point get over it

  • Because we still have pretty easily accessible prints and photos of the originals. It's nigh on fucking impossible to get a good working untouched copy of the original trilogy. I personally still have a VCR, and when I want to watch Star Wars, I drag out my old CBS ~1990 VHS. Which include BADASS art. Because that was the easiest way for me to get untouched copies. Lucas can dick around and do whatever he wants, and I will never make a peep, IF he releases a good transfer of the unaltered films.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:32 a.m. CST

    I agree wholeheartedly with Harry

    by Jack

    I just posted a long stream of conciousness on imdb, sharing many of the same thoughts Harry does... If you are a Star Wars fan, like me, that means that you have to be willing to live with change. You don't have to like it, but you have to live with it. George Lucas has been tinkering with the original trilogy since 1981, when he added "Episode IV" to the opening crawl of Star Wars. He's been at it, hardcore, now for nearly 15 years, and with the forthcoming 3-D versions of the saga, he's not going to stop any time soon. I don't think there's a single successful filmmaker out there today that doesn't look at his past work, and wish they had done some things differently. Maybe they were creative choices, or maybe they were restrictive ones. Steven Spielberg has said that Close Encounters is a movie that he would never make today. At least not in the way he made it then. He has said that today, he would never make a movie about a man who abandons his family to fly off in a spaceship with aliens. Spielberg himself has toyed with his own movies, most notably the digital alterations in E.T. Granted he has since backpedaled on those changes, and sworn off ever doing it again. Another director who changed around one of his classics is Walter Hill. A few years ago, he created the infamous "Director's Cut" of his hit 1979 film, The Warriors. Adding comic book style transitions, and altering a few seconds of film, he witnessed a backlash similitar to what Spielberg and Lucas have. My point it this, while many filmmakers would like to change some of their past works, very few would do it. Maybe their content to leave well enough alone, or maybe they don't have the means or the rights to make any alterations. George Lucas is a man with money to burn. He is also very eccentric. He's like an artist who believes that his painting is never quite finished. Put those two things together and you have a man that is never going to be satisfied. As infuriating as it may be, Star Wars is his world, and we're all just visitors. Now you can either accept that fact, or you can wallow in it. There are basically two kinds of hardcore Star Wars fans, the purists, and the conformists. Purists just flat out reject any and all changes made to the movies. Conformists look the changes on their own merits, and adapt to them, perhaps even grow to appreciate some of them. Do I think the Lucas needed to change one single frame of those movies? Yes and no. No, because to me, they were just fine as they were. Especially the original trilogy. It's what I grew up on. But if Lucas is looking at it from a point of trying to make the film more appealing to younger, or more contemporary audiences, then I say yes. People like me can hold onto an appreciation for the original versions of the first trilogy because we were there. We witnessed those movies take the world by storm. We sat with everyone else in awe of the images and incredible visual effects flashing before our eyes. Today, a younger crowd would look at the dated effects and say "Wow. Kind of corny." So he expanded the world he created. For the most part, I believe many of the changers were for the better. The funny thing is, Lucas made A LOT more changes to the movies than the ones people have chosen to bitch about. No one says anything about the changes that they DO like. For example, does anyone think the end of Jedi was ruined by replacing that awful Ewok song with some stirring John Williams music, and by showing victory celebrations across the galaxy, instead of just in the Ewoks treehouse? Who doesn't enjoy the improved Death Star battle in Star Wars? Or having that extra character scene in between Han Solo and Jabba The Hutt? Don't you think expanding the visuals of Cloud City gives it a much bigger scale than sterile backdrop walls? How about giving the Sarlaac an actual mouth instead just some droopy tentacles? The good changes far outweigh the bad, yet no one ever seems to want to talk about those. To his credit, it seems that Lucas has at least tried to find some kind of happy medium on some of the things that people really cried foul on. Perhaps the most infamous change of all is in the original Star Wars. "Greedo shoots first" has even become something of a catchphrase for when unwelcome change happens. In the new blu-ray, that scene has been altered to where Han and Greedo actually shoot simultaneously. Is it a total redemption of that scene? No. Is it an acceptable alternative to the way it was originally done? Hell YES! Putting back Harrison Ford's original dialogue take over the strange dub that was but in on the dvd is also a welcom change. Anyone remember the Emperor's death scream pasted over Luke falling down the shaft in Cloud City from the special edition of Empire? That's long since gone. Or how about in Star Wars, in the scene where Luke and Leia fight off Stormtroopers in the core shaft, and Leia's shots sound like a .357 Magnum going off? Gone. Now to be clear, I don't like all the changes. The new Krayt dragon yell that Obi-Wan does, the "NO" from Vader in Jedi, the musical number in Jabba's palace, adding Hayden Christensen's ghost, and of course the whole Han/Greedo thing. But those few moments do not diminish the wealth of wonder, imagination, and action that is packed into these movies. None of these changes, including the ones made for the blu ray release, ruins these movies. Sometimes the changes do lessen a scene, but sometimes they improve them. The magic of these movies is not lost. The alterations don't change the impact these movies had on me when I first saw them. I don't feel like George Lucas has "raped my childhood". Because I'm not a child anymore. To talk about these movies from a perspective of how you saw them as a child is just that...childish. Again, you don't have agree with or even like the changes that were made. That's fine. But don't say that it ruins the WHOLE thing. Don't say you refuse to watch these movies in the most pristine format they've ever been available on because you feel those alterations completely destroy the entire film, because that is simply untrue. So if you chose to disavow these movies, and not view them on blu-ray, you are only cheating yourself.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST

    We care. Harrys right. This is our Dead Sea Srolls moment.

    by yamayama

    Xmas came early. Now that we have all this to sift through can George just please leave it alone alone?! George just go do some weird arthouse movies now. And allow Joe Johnston to do the Boba Fett movie. And just allow someone else to take over the running of the live action TV series.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Harry!! I agree with almost all of it, just one thing. .

    by Bluto425

    I totally agree with a lot of what you said. And for me and my friends Star Wars was one of the biggest and most defining moments in our lives. And I don't have a problem with Lucas changing things and adding things that he wants to add. They are in fact his movies and he does have that right to alter things. I just don't understand why he also can't release the original theatrical ones. Those are the movies that I fell in love with, and while I appreciate what he is trying to do with the new versions of the original films and the prequels, I want the versions that I watched over and over and over again. I want the versions that caused me to wreck numerous VHS cassettes due to overuse. And while I don't think you're crazy for loving Star Wars enough to accept the new changes, I don't think I'm crazy for wanting the copies I grew up with.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    George just go do some weird arthouse movies

    by tomdolan04

    He will never do that, regardless of what he says. The man has made a billion dollars plus from his franchise and the last entry in the PT was six fecking years ago. <p> Give the man six years off and billions of dollars in revenue streams. What has he come up with? The threat of 'Red Tails', help bury Indiana Jones and pretty much missing the nuance of THE critical arc scene in a film that came out 28 years ago. Bravo George. <p> Last note: to paraphrase from Indy and the Last Crusade - "If George Lucas is Salvador Dali then I am Mickey Mouse"

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:54 a.m. CST

    I am so boycotting this set. Lucas is a cinema vandal.

    by Quake II

    I won't support the destruction of classic American cinema. I don't give a fuck what Lucas says, he's destroying artwork. Who cares if it's his own? Star Wars should always be offered in two versions. The original 1977 theatrical cut and the 2011 Lucas cut with all the crappy CGI and added noises. The public owns these movies IMO based upon the BILLIONS of dollars we've spent on merchandising. I'll enjoy my widescreen laserdisc-dvd transfers. Grain and all.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Aunt Beru burnt up & so did my mother

    by choonie


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:57 a.m. CST

    P.s. No....

    by choonie


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:57 a.m. CST

    My Dead Sea Scolls is 007

    by antonphd

    But I loved Star Wars as a kid. I loved Indy Jones more, but what grade school kid wasn't playing Star Wars in the early 80s?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST

    I just saw Casablanca on blu-ray

    by ufoclub1977

    and was reminded of the hip retro old movie vibe that almost all of Star Wars has. But it's Star Wars 1977 that is the one that needs its own "Criterion Collection" type exhalted, classy release on blu-ray.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Best writing in here in a long while

    by Arteska

    Especially the first half of it, a virtual roadmap of pre-90's fandom. And it was better then. By a long shot. Skip this set if you have to but a "fan" missing out on this is mostly spiting themselves imo. The extras alone are probably worth the discounted price going right now unless you've had your fill of it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:02 a.m. CST

    To be honest, the guys has since 1977 off

    by tomdolan04

    He could have made any number of weird arthouse movies in the interim. Instead he took producer credits on pretty much everything else. <p> I give him full credit for Lucasarts and pushing Industrial Light and Magic throughout the 80's and 90's. Skywalker Sound also. Technology is his thing and I don't think his distractors would disagree - it's just that his creative decisions since he's had enough control to exert them above everyone else are beyond comprehesion for the most part.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:02 a.m. CST

    You BLEW IT George!!!

    by gonkdroid

    All the power and control and you still delivered three prequel turds with a few tiny moments of inspiration. I will never forget.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:03 a.m. CST

    and that makes me sad.

    by gonkdroid

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    It's not just that he's making changes.

    by stevepants

    It's that the changes he's making are frustratingly HORRIBLE. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! It was ridiculous in Ep 3...and it's even worse in Jedi. Harry, usually I can agree or at least sympathize with you...but not with this, I've been a HUGE Star Wars fan since I was 4 (I'm 37 now) but I've had it with Lucas and his need to make all these changes....not because "he's raping my childhood", but because he's making these classic films into pieces of garbage.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    You are missing the point

    by Fantomex

    The changes are so bad I can't even show these movies to my kids. I'd be embarrassed. I'm not sure you realize how much the movies have changed because you can't view them as a first time viewer. They are TERRIBLE.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    The taint is almost too much to appreciate these anymore

    by gonkdroid

  • Are absurd morons. The amount of work that flows from that place and that man on all kinds of fronts has always been steady and vanguardish. Just because it hasn't manifested in some preferred form doesn't make the hater version of reality accurate.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:08 a.m. CST

    One thing I don't understand about ILM...

    by Quake II

    They used to be the premiere effects house in the world but the digital creatures they produced in the new Star Wars films (as well as the added Dewbacks/Tatooine mess) look pretty bad now. If Lucas was really so obsessed with perfection why doesn't he redo all the 1997 digital creatures and also redo Jar Jar with Gollum or Avatar quality f/x? Weta wipes the floor with ILM these days.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Han shoots First!

    by tHEgREATgABBO

    in the extra scene

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST


    by tomdolan04

    Agreed to a point - as a businessman and a technological pioneer, he's done an insane heap of good and is very proficient. <p> I just detest the guy as an artist and creative film director based on the whole list of bizarre choices he's lumped on the film world starting slowly with parts of 83' Jedi, gearing up with the SE's in 1997 and going loco insane from 1999 onwards.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Yeah except that 5 of the 6 films suck

    by Rupee88

    "Star Wars" was the only really good one. ESB and all afterwards were lame.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:22 a.m. CST

    In George's own words....

    by Raschied

    ‎"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians." --George Lucas, 1988, Address to Congress on preserving classic films--

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Wow Harry!

    by Jim Bivins

    You are really amazing, how you can find the silver lining in things. I can't tell you how infectious your passion is. I think you've sold me on putting this set on my wish list. Also, You have a great woman to do something like that for you. Thanks for the great write up!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Harry Knowles - taking the term "apologist" to a new level

    by georgecauldron

    Durr, I don't like what Lucas is doing, but LOL it's SW on blu-ray! Gotta have it!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I liked Star Wars when I was 7 years old...

    by Carl's hat

    ..then I grew up and moved onto Star Trek. Anyone who didn't is in arrested development.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:43 a.m. CST

    ok here's the thing Harry

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    some of us worship the films not the filmmaker...I don't care if jesus Christ directed the oriignal Star Wars I'd still tell him to fuck off and die (again) for directing the prequels... I'm a BIGTIME Ridley fan...and I am anticipating Prometheus like I'm anticipating fucking Megan Fox but if Ridley fails I won't blindly follow him off a cliff...Lucas has lost his mind...stop encouraging insanity

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2 a.m. CST

    STAR WARS is the te

    by 3D-Man

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2 a.m. CST

    STAR WARS is the te

    by 3D-Man

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    I'm so sick of Harry's self-absorbed writing style

    by damienjohn

    We want a fucking review of the Star Wars Blu Ray not a fucking walk through memory lane where you keep repeating how fucked up your life is. I enjoy your' reviews but I always have to skip the first paragraph or two because it just drags on and on and on. You started two consecutive paragraphs with 'You see, ...', this just makes you look like an incompetent self-absorbed journalist Harry...

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST


    by Johann Wolgang von Eisenschwanz

    Have been reading this site pretty regularly for years, which means I've read more than my share of Harry's überenthusiastic splooge sessions over whatever movie is the latest summation of all his formative childhood experiences. Here and there, okay, fair enough; every other month, and it gets to be a bit much. I won't spite fans who want to enjoy this BR release. I profoundly disapprove of the way Lucas has bled this series dry of all its mystique, cool factor, and credibility through his increasingly ruthless merchandising and mangling of the already-perfect originals. I cracked and bought the 2004 DVD release out of residual fanboyism, but thigs have only gotten worse since then. Star Wars will never again possess any of that wonderful sense of the unknown and untapped possibilities that lurked between the lines of the OT. We all remember those days. They're never coming back; we're never going to get the second golden age of SW fandom that descended in the pre-Phantom Menace 90s. So I choose to hang onto what love I have left for these films by skipping this crass release and sticking with my non-anamorphic OT DVDs. You won't see me trying to reconcile my appreciation for the good old days with the shitty present state of Lucasfilm and all it's doing to a large section of its fanbase, because I don't have to.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST

    I'm only sorry there's not more significant edits

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    I already own the other versions of the films.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Everytime... Sometime... make up your frikking mind....

    by jazzdownunder

    I recently paid a visit to the newly opened art gallery here in Auckland. I am pretty sure that the Dali they had on exhibit there wasn't tweaked or improved or "Special Editioned" just for this particular appearance in the exhibit. And that's all beside the idiocy of saying that "everytime" something happens, "sometimes" something always happens too. Anyway, the bottom line for me is this... It is increasingly clear that if George Lucas were in the position he is in today... with the resources he needs and without any opposition to his ideas, and had been able to make the movie he wanted to make back in 1977, then there would not *BE* any Star Wars fans around to get pissed off today, because if he had somehow managed to survive at all he would now be a penniless drunk wandering the streets telling everyone how he used to dream of being a great film director but screwed up the one chance he had after film school, creating a turd of a hackneyed cliche ridden movie called "Adventures of the StarKiller" that tanked, crashed AND burned, ensuring he never worked again.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:13 a.m. CST


    by Pr_Frink

    Then don't read it. Why read something you don't enjoy?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:14 a.m. CST

    @ creepythinmanlives

    by Alex D. Geslin

    Please go back to whatever hole you crawled out of, and take your childish insults with you. If you are a Star Wars fan, then you are an embarrassed to all Star Wars fans...

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Harry, you have a friend name Flesh Gordon?

    by Ditko


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    I watched the original trilogy so much growing up


    I'm completely burned out on them and haven't watched them since.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:24 a.m. CST

    The Best Of Times ..

    by rickdeckard1

    My favorite memories are seeing all three films with my family as a kid. I am bummed out not able to see the new blu rays with my older brother whom is now gone, with his sons whom are now about the same age we both were seeing episode 4.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Comparing SW alterations to the Blade Runner ultimate is a cop out

    by chubasqueiro

    Blade Runner. First: Neither the narration nor the "happy" ending were never intended. Second: whatever changes have been made to the very last, and most definitive version, are very subtle: you are supossed to be involved in the narration even more; it´s really hard to catch them for people who have seen the film once or twice in their lives. What GL is doing to the original Star Wars movies is a nice "fuck your inept collaboration" to whatever the rest of his cast and crew achieved on 1977; come on: GL twistted Harrison´s Ford neck, omitted Sebastian´s Shaw interpretation, pissed over the original editors of ANH (who where the ones responsible for the pace and grace to make believe those damn space battles and not a sodding bore),and most of the guys mentioned in this...whatever this post is supossed to be. The all powerfull uncle George acts like a megalomaniac who can´t give credit to ALL THE GUYS WHO HELPED HIM CREATE STAR WARS and the prequels probed that on his own, uncle George´s "pure" vision is BULLSHIT. Movies is a collaborative medium, and even perfectionists like Tarkovsky, Kubrick or Malick had to deal with that fact. If Alec Guiness and Peter Cushing where alive today, I hardly think they would appear on a film helmed by this "perfectionist" (or "surrealist" if you are willing to buy the bullshit comparition to Salvador Dalí); there´s added value in an actors interpretation or on a designed matte painting.... Fuck GL.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:31 a.m. CST


    by AzarN

    You are fucking spot on. I appreciate Harry's opinion and I enjoy his taste in film. But fuck, I'm so sick of scrolling past his whimsical flashbacks every time he posts an article. You make some decent points Knowles. But I don't fucking care about your life story when all I want is your review!


  • While the level of bonus material is amazing, I really hope I can see some of the original marketing materials in super high-def. Especially the new trilogy trailers, which, while the movies may have been disappointing, the trailers were incredible. I also hope the Episode One Tome Poem commercials are included.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:54 a.m. CST

    My problem: Lucas messing with ROTJ & TESB.

    by the_patriot

    The rest of the films are all his. He's writer, director, producer, etc. But on ROTJ & TESB, he is *not* the director of record. He's screwing around with the finished product of other directors. That makes him no better than the people that butchered Touch of Evil or Metropolis or any other movie "reedited" without the actual director's approval. That's a special level of fucked up for which he should be stabbed in the neck. Regardless, Lucas is far from the first person to do stuff like this. Disney has done it for years. Hell, Disney has reanimated parts of Lion King for the 2002 release and for the 2011 release that they didn't like when it came out in 1994. it is what it is.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:54 a.m. CST

    I gave-up and bought it in the end.

    by david starling

    Precisely for the reasons that you've stated above, more of less Harry. The interesting thing is, I've been watching each film this week when I can, and my 9 year-old daughter has been watching them with me. She watches the Clone Wars series, and thus knows the characters from the movies to this point. So she was shocked a little when Revenge of the Sith ends the way it does, and she couldn't wait to watch A New Hope!! Its interesting because I watch the Clone Wars series when I can, but my daughter adores the show, whereas I love the movies. I grew-up on Star Wars, and so is my daughter, but from a different viewpoint. Maybe Star Wars isn't as perfect, and revered these days as many would like, and heck, if George wants to remind us that its his baby, there are easier ways. But Star Wars is still Star Wars, and its good that its still here.

  • Attack of the Clones. Granted the dialog during the Padme/Anakin scenes got cheesy but for my money this film just flatout destroys the other 5. And i love TESB. The editing of this film is easily the best of the first 3 and the story basically goes everywhere TESB-style. It also has the best build and payoff of any story of the 6. Also, the sound for AotC is simply insane. From during the chase scene... someone like smoked some soudtrack-crack and put in these waaaaaaaoooooo type sounds to the asteroid field explosions, someone got inventive as all hell. And i quite like the final song. Its the only movie I actually just sat there and watched the credits and listened. Last, the effects here work better than any other in the series. In 3 they felt like overkill, in 1 it felt a bit like window dressing and not quite there in some scenes(i.e. the gungans vs droids), but with 2 it always seemed like the effect was in service to the story. 2 also contains the single coolest effect in all 6 films which is when Yoda brandishes his lightsaber in a way only Yoda in all his badassery would do. One of the other things i especially like is where they have this real close confined battle sequence in the pit for an extended period of time, which then segues into a huge wide ranging battle on a scale only Star Wars does. Either way, it was nice to be reminded just how solid this film was and how overlooked it ended up being.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Completely agreed Tailhook!!

    by david starling

    Clones has a few faults here and there, but its largely brilliance throughout. I also love Obi Wan's first meeting with Jango, which looks like they know already its going to end in a punch-up!! I also like the little bits sneaked here and there, that unveil pretty much that the Jedi are self-important and unfocused, to a certain degree (the fact that Kamino isn't on the starcharts, and a youngling points out that maybe someone removed it, as opposed to the official line - it isn't there because it doesn't exist!!). The film also contains, what is for me, a killer point: Yoda confirms that Dooku was his Padawan learner, so you have this chain: Yoda-Dooku-Qui Gon-Obi Wan-Anankin But more importantly, the failure that Obi Wan feels eventually when Anakin goes to the Dark Side, must be what Yoda feels in this film of his own former Padawan. Oh, and something no-one has pointed-out yet - Clones at long last has Jango's headbutt back in it!! Cut from the UK cinema release and initial DVD's (and accidentally shown in a UK tv showing once - oops!!), it was cut to give the film a more suitable family rating. Well, its back!!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Harry! Right about Star Wars, you are!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I love the original trilogy! It means so much to me. It also created my love for the CRAFT of cinima. As I watched the 1977 documentary "The Making of Star Wars" I realized that it may be my first exposure to Star Wars! This is among my very first memories! this means that Star Wars has been a part of my life, all of my life! I honestly cannot say how I first saw Star Wars; either in the theater or the documentary! The stories and images of the making-of doc have taken me back. I actually remember this stuff from 1977! The mythic storytelling combined with the film-making processes showcasing the craftsmanship and ingenuity behind the film has been a part of my entire life! Do I like most of the changes? No, I do not. Do I like some of them? Yes, I do. Yes, I want the work-prints! Yes, I want the theatrical cuts! Yes, I want the THX versions! Yes, I want it all on blu-ray! Yes, I want it all in 4K! 3D? Not so much. Did the prequels let me down? Yes they did! But I still appreciate some things about them. But what I appreciate the most is what the prequels could have been and should have been. However, these cuts/versions only exist within my mind, but I thank George Lucas for creating the context of the prequels of my imagination! For that priceless gift, I can only thank Mr. Lucas for cultivating my imagination. I am loving this blu-ray set despite all of its flaws, missteps, artistic mistakes and missed chances. After all, this is Star Wars. It is part of our destiny.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST

    I actually rank Attack of the Clones as the worst of the 6

    by SifoDyasJr

    To me, it embodied everything that had gone wrong with the series--it was more of a video game and toy marketing machine than a film. I still enjoy chunks of Phantom Menace, but I have always found AOTC a chore to get through. The only parts I like are the diner scene between Obi-wan and Dex (a rare chance for Ewan to actually act) and the Cowboys & Indians inspired droid battle towards the end.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Everyone's anger toward Lucas comes from their love of the original trilogy.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    It's this love that binds the talkbackers together.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:34 a.m. CST


    by guulvar

    I have to agree with you to the fullest. I always skip the first few paragraphs of his reviews anymore.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:44 a.m. CST

    I'll never forget the AOTC audience at my screening

    by Chief Joseph

    Just HOWLING with laughter at the atrocious acting and dialogue from Hayden and Natalie. And this was a 1st-run showing at the Cinerama in Seattle, too, not some midnight movie grindhouse showing. A friend of mine owned the AOTC DVD and he told me he would switch the audio track to French for those scenes to "ease the pain". I've broken GL's hold on me. I'm not buying the damn Blu-ray. He hasn't even bothered fixing the color errors like Luke's yellow-green lightsaber on the Falcon. There are satisfactory fanedits and fan-restorations if you know where to look and I'm fine with those. If GL ever decides to release the original editions again, I would certainly buy them, however.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:45 a.m. CST

    More precisely.. that anger...

    by tailhook

    Has to do with the fact that for a lot of people in a certain age bracket(including myself)... they perceived the original trilogy to be a lot more Serious than it was primarily because they first saw it when they were kids. That mystique has pretty much worn off with age. It frankly took me a fairly long time to just come to the fact that these were by and large just harmless kid/teen films. Well made, sure, but they weren't exactly High Art. Just a romp through a galaxy far, far away and not really much more to that. Crazy aliens, stilted acting, and a pretty generic epic story told decently well. So top to bottom in terms of quality i'd go: 2, 5, 3, 4, 1, 6. Return of the Jedi, in particular, just ouch. Talk about some dated stuff. Half the special effects(speeder chase, barge scene, anything with Ewoks) look so bad. The only stuff thats outstanding is of course the battle in space and the fight to destory the Death Star. It feels like half a movie between that, and the stellar Luke/Vader/Emperor showdown. Beyond that, there wasn't a lot in RoTJ that was any damn good at all. Oh, except the gold bikini, that will live forever.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:48 a.m. CST

    The Phantom Menace

    by cowsaysmoo

    I couldn't resist and had to have Star Wars on Blu-Ray warts and all. Just finished Episode 1. It's been a number of years since I've looked at it, and with lowered expectations, and the bitterness of disappointment behind me the only real thing that bothered me about the film was Jake Lloyd's horrible performance. Part of this is due to Lucas' cringe worthy dialogue, but man, a better actor would have done wonders for the movie. Jar-Jar wasn't as annoying as I remembered, and the movie was actually kind of entertaining for the most part. Chill people, if you've got a blu-ray player and a hi-def tv and a killer soundsystem, I recommend picking it up.

  • Are you a serial killer?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:59 a.m. CST


    by cowsaysmoo

    It's fine to hate what Lucas did to Star Wars, but you are much worse than George Lucas. What have you ever given to the world other than your whiny bitch-like death wish to another human being? Did Lucas sodomize your mother in front of you when you were 12 years old or something? Critique Lucas' films, but wishing death on another human being who HAS DONE NOTHING PERSONAL to you is beyond childish, and in the realms of a severe mental disorder. Man, some people just take Star Wars waaaay too seriously. It's just entertainment folks...that's all.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    i'm happy I was not obsessed as Harry

    by chien_sale

    as it's better to discover movies at random

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:11 a.m. CST

    All those who are 'over' Star Wars...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    ... why not go and watch JJ Abrams Star Trek instead? You know, the one that is critically adored yet with the lamest script imaginable? The one with Simon Pegg and an alien monkey running around a brewery? I'll take the prequels over that shitfest any day of the week.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:21 a.m. CST

    I don't mind a director changing his work!

    by lovesamuelfuller

    ...As long as he changes it for the better. If it claifies plotholes, changes character inconsistencies and improve outdated special effects that might take a modern viewer out of the film. But quite a lot of the changes that Lucas made, work against all this. A clear example of this is the following: i've just seen Jedi again (twice - both the old version and the new one). The change Lucas made in the Sy Snootles scene (the song) in jabba's Palace is wrong for many reasons. The original song fit the dirty, dark place that jabba's place was supposed to be. The new song is happy and upbeat. All wrong for the dreaded and dangerous place that this should be. It makes jabba's place lighthearted and a bit silly. Now when Luke enters it doesn't feel as dangerous as it did before. Also: One advise that Sam Mendes got from mr. Spielberg when he made his debut (American Beauty) is "don't over-use the closeup. Keep it for the few scene's where it will have the greatest dramatic effect." Now, the biggest close-up in Jedi (and i believe all three movies) is the face and big ass lips of sy snootles and a CG character (just so we can see his vocal chords tremble). How wrong is this? It's a bigger close-up then the scene between Luke and his dying father or the scene where darth Vader dicides to kill the Emperor to save his son. This one scene is wrong in framing, tone and character. And this is just one example. Movies = visual storytelling! And changes are fine as long as they serve the story better (character, plot and tone). But many of the changes just show that Lucas is a horrible storyteller that doesn't know the tone and characters of 'his' Star Wars movies. With many changes he lessons the dramatic effect of his original movies. Harry, can you really not see this? (and greetings from Amsterdam!)

  • Hahaha....okay, I shouldn't laugh. My purchase of the week was the CITIZEN KANE Blu-ray box set...guess who wasn't the drooling idiot?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:31 a.m. CST

    by 21stCenturyCat

    If the cost of seeing these films in crystal clear blu-ray is a 'relatively' small numbe of changes (relative to the running times of the films) then that is a price I will pay. And who can say the ESB emperor in astroid field scene wasnt an improvement?!!!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:41 a.m. CST

    StarWars does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    That was actually a very nicely written, coherent article from Harry - and while I feel he skipped over the elephant in the room (the changes arent simply changes - they are mostly BAD changes) I feel his passion and share it. Some other points about the Blu Ray set.... STAR WARRIORS documentary. About the uber fans who dress as Stormtroopers (from the 501 garrison) and do charity work and public appearance. THIS DOCUMENTARY ROCKS! I was expecting this to be a real duffer but it's brilliantly put together, right up there with feature quality docs like KING OF KONG. MONSTERS OF ROTJ documentary, or whatever it's called. This is a 1983 doc hosted by Carrie Fisher and she HAS NEVER LOOKED HOTTER! If you have a Carrie crush check her out. THE PHANTOM MENACE. Noticed another change. Near the start the Neimodians big video screen that they watch the Jedi fighting droids on and then communicate to Amidala with is now different. Why change this?! I don't know but check it out, it's changed.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Clever guy, old Georgie boy

    by Joely_Boy

    The thing is, all the changes that George Lucas does to Star Wars creates so much controversy on the internet that it constantly keeps the saga in the public consciousness. A very shrewd artist.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:53 a.m. CST

    PS I'm back.

    by Joely_Boy


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Worst5 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Five worst revisions to Star Wars by the Dojo... 5/ Boba Fett's voice in ESB. Nothing against Temeura Morrison's accent, it's more a problem of flat delivery - just sounds like he doesn't give a fuck. The previous guy sounded much more badass and delivered his lines far far better. 4/ STAR WARS Jabba scene. Spoils the 'what a heap of junk' reveal of the Millenium Falcon, spoils the reveal of Jabba, detracts from the pacing of trying to escape Mos Eisley, and the Jabba CG fx is shit. 3/ Greedo Shoots First. You thought this would be at number one, but it's since been superseded. But it's lame from both an fx and storytelling perspective. 2/ Noo... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Spunks prequelness all over the climactic finale of the saga and ruins a moment that simply didnt need words. 1/ I thought about Hayden's ghost for this one, but at least I can understand why Lucas made that change. The worse change for me is the Jabba Palace JEDI ROCKS music video. Terrible CG characters that jarr with the backgrounds, crash zooms right into the characters faces as they break the fourth wall between the camera and the viewer. And to tell the truth the Jabba's palace stretch needs tightening up pacing wise if anything not stopping the movie dead with a music video. Shite on every level. Lucas could have reinstated that cool cave scene of Luke tooling his lightsaber, or the bridging scene with the sandstorm (which is a rare chance in ROTJ to see both leads Han and Luke share a scene), but he thought a 3 minute music video was a better use of screen time. AARGH! Fuck u CGI Snootles and your band.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:01 a.m. CST

    I’ll take it in the rough. And my god I love it.

    by 3774

    LOL. Me too, Harry. Me too. But eventually you just gotta settle down into respectable behavior, preferably in a monogamous relationship. At some point, decent society demands it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Okay Guy's Now's Your Chance To It To George's Face In Person

    by Kevin Rubio

  • ..I took us to so many other places...Places that were full of treasures and discoveries...It gave us the legacy of movies.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Best5 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    In the interests if fairness, ought to do a Top5 changes too... 5/ ROTJ Bantha herds. Elegant, subtle, welcome! 4/ SW Falcon lifts off from Mos Eisley. 3/ ROTJ the Sarlaac pit. I'm a LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS fan! 2/ SW The X-wings leave Yavin. Some nice FX which provides a better pre-battle build up. 1/ ESB Cloud City window views and approach. I think this is the one change that would be really missed were the OT theatrical cuts to be included on the Blu Ray.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:17 a.m. CST


    by SminkyPinky

    Amen, sir. And to everyine else who keeps complaing that Star Wars sucks, if you don't like it then why do you come here? Go and find something else to love.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST

    I didn't think he glossed over the changes


    He basically said he didn't give a fuck.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:33 a.m. CST

    you would take Phantom Menace over Jar Jar Trek


    lol more power to you dude. Rock on.

  • I mean c'mon, all the outcry over the ROTS noooooooooo, and he adds ANOTHER one? lol Lucas says FUck You fanboi nerds!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Sorry, I just can't justify owning those movies again

    by murray_hamilton

    Bought the original trilogy on VHS twice, Laserdisc once and all six of them on DVD. I don't care how special the extras are. Enough is enough.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:47 a.m. CST

    I agree in spirit...

    by ZaphodBeeblerox

    Star Wars also ignited the passion that I have for films as well. It was a jumping off point for the career of those involved in it. Through it, I segued into those wonderfully unique Hammer horror films thanks to Peter Cushing. Likewise, being impressed with Sir Alec, I watched Bridge on the River Kwai and found I loved it too. Move scores....who could ever touch the output of John Williams in the late 70's/early 80's? Star Wars, Raiders, Superman & ET... Each score unique, yet instantly identifiable with Williams.. I didnt get Starlog, my magazine of choice was Famous Monsters from the local National Record Mart. The movies were events and produced pure awe in an early teen (and an instant crush on Carrie Fisher). This was an old fashioned fairy tale for modern times. The hero on his journey with obstacles to overcome and larger then life villains stand in his way. My only issues with the tinkering that George has done is that he has gone back and changed the character arc of two of the characters. Han went from a cold mercenary (from shooting Greedo in cold blood), to being the luckiest guy in the bar to sitting directly across from someone that had to be so drunk that they couldnt shoot something at arm's length in front of them. The idea of Han shooting shooting someone in cold blood tells you all you need to know about the character at that stage: cold, dispassionate, out for himself and dangerous. Remove that element and he basically becomes just someone reckless and full of bravado. Because of that, his character arc is not as great then and it weakens the character overall. IMHO. For the entire Saga supposed to be about Anakin's rise, fall and redemption through his family, the biggest screw up George has done is insert Hayden as a ghost into the end of Jedi. In that one instant, George is basically telling us that Anakin's self sacrifice at the end of Jedi was not enough to allow him to be one with the force. That somehow only his younger self would be good enough to spend eternity with Obi Wan and Yoda. WTF? So he went through getting himself killed for nothing if he was so wonderful when younger that he was already going to be one with the force? How in the heck was he redeemed at the end if he ends up younger than when he fathered the twins? That change completely derails the emotion of the ending of the saga. Those few seconds to me are like scratching a needle across an album, it just goes against everything that he was leading up to in all 6 movies about redemption. That's the main issue I have with what George has done. I can only assume that George thinks that older Anakin wouldn't have any legs to stand on as a ghost. ;-) Still, that didn't stop me from ordering it, mainly for all of the extras and to see the movies that fueled my imagination as a child....well at least parts of what fueled my imagination.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:51 a.m. CST

    I am in the camp of ANY StarWars is better than nothing

    by j2talk

    If I wasn't I'd still be pissed that the first sequel WASN'T Splinter of the Minds Eye.....that said, get off your ass and deliver the GOD DAMNED LiveAction TV Series........

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Don't hold your breath for the original versions.

    by vadakinX

    The originals, especially Star Wars, are in piss poor condition. When a new master was created in 1997 for the Special Editions, the SE changed were spliced into that new master. Thus the original versions simply don't exist in any kind of decent form. It would cost a lot of money to restore the originals and it simply isn't viable from a financial point of view. The laserdisc versions on the 2006 release didn't sell very well and while Star Wars fans like to bitch and moan, the truth is, the majority of people who buy this set simply don't care about the original versions. The cost of restoring the original versions simply isn't worth doing on the business side and Lucasfilm is ultimately a business. The changes to the films made for this release are actually a lot cheaper to do than what new restorations would cost. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see the original versions in good quality but it won't happen. Your best bet is to wait for a fan with a privately owned print to have his copy restored and put online. By the way, when people say the Original Versions, do they mean the version of Empire in 70mm before a new shot was created for the end of the film with the Rebel Cruiser for the 35mm release? Because that was the first special edition back in 1980. 1981 saw the second Special Edition with STAR WARS getting a new Title - A New Hope. By the way I've watched all of these films in 1-6 order and the picture quality is indeed great and watching in that order actually made me like the new "No! Nooooo!" in Jedi. Watched out of context on Youtube can make you angry. It made me angry. But watching the films back to back actually made me appreciate it. It's something that grows on you.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST


    by vadakinX

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    by vadakinX

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Scum - Take 3

    by vadakinX

    The deleted scene where Han responds to the "You Rebel scum" line is almost worth the price of the Complete Saga by itself.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST

    stop whining the Originals ARE available

    by j2talk

    people should stop whining- the originals ARE available at least they are or should be to anyone who got to see the ORIGINAL version in theaters- They were released on Videocassette and Laser Disk- to anyone who doesn't already own one or both of those they either 1) Not a Star Wars fan or 2) Not old enough to have seen the original version in a Theater and as such their attachment to Star Wars is based on either butchered TV versions OR Remastered Theatrical releases....The new Blue Ray Editions are just a continuation of the evolution of the story telling medium....

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Goddammit George,goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:08 a.m. CST


    by vadakinX

    Yes they are available but not in high quality and unfortunately they won't be available in high quality any time soon because the prints at Lucasfilm of the original versions are in such poor quality. I think it's time people accepted the reality. I for one have no problem watching the Special Editions. Everything that made Star Wars great is still very much present. Being a Star Wars fan can be depressing when you try to talk with other Star Wars fans online. There's just so much hate and hyperbole. Watching all six films on Blu Ray, I was reminded that these films are still a hell of a lot of fun. And yes I include the prequels in that. They are flawed but I still have a lot of fun with them.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    =I gave-up and bought it in the end.=

    by KilliK

    that's why evil will always torment this world.because of the weak.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:18 a.m. CST

    BTW..I hate Star Wars.

    by Arkhaminmate001

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:19 a.m. CST

    I appreciate that George Lucas

    by bobbofatz

    owns all the rights and can do to SW what ever the hell he wants. Its America after all. But, if Leonardo da vinci was brought back to life and started fucking with the Mona lisa people would have a right to bitch a bit.

  • You dont get it,do you? The problem is not about the changes.The fat fuck can make as many changes as he wants,he is entitled to since he owns these movies. The real problem is that the Neck is trying to take away from our memories and the memory of the general movie consensus and pop culture,the existence of the original films. He doesnt want for the future generations to even know about the existence of the original movies and the people behind them.He only wants,and is trying his hardest to achieve this,for the world to remember him as the only 'genius' creator of the whole franchise and this travesty of re-visioned films as his perfect heritage to the people. And if it wasnt for those laserdisks,the internet and ofc the first fans who had seen the original movies and grew up with them,then the fat fuck would have already achieved this thing.But wait 20 or 30 years and you will see that almost everyone,and especially the new young fans, will be talking only about the new editions,the new prequel and the new,inevitable,trilogies. But nobody will remember the classics,the original ones,the best SW movies ever made.Because Lucas would have finally manage to extinguish them from our memories and our worldwide culture. That's the crime.Not the changes but the extinction of the originals.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Em i am sorry but Adwyn has fucked up the coloring in the movie

    by KilliK

    The Hoth environment was blue-ish in the original movie,not plain white like in Adwyn's version.Sorry but it is a fail.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:33 a.m. CST

    vadakinx -thats the point

    by j2talk

    sure the originals " are available but not in high quality" thats the point, you want the "Stars Wars Experience? watch it on the Laser disk, that probably the closest you'll get to seeing the original theatrical version, see the matte lines on the Tie Fighters, the cartoonesque laser shots.. You want High Quality Versions of Star Wars, that means putting up with the Tinkering....

  • i can live with that.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Sounds like a battered wife

    by DOGSOUP

    "I know it's hard now but the good times! The times I fell in love with! I can take some bruises because of that night in Miami 26 years ago!"

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:49 a.m. CST


    by damienjohn

    I read Harry's reviews because they are generally really good and I have very similar taste in movies. I'm just over the self-important drivel that has increasingly plagued his reviews in the past 3 years. Oh and also I can read and comment on whatever I please...

  • Not interested one bit. I have a bootleg of the original trilogy on DVD that someone durned from the laser disk remastered versions in 1995 and that is all I will ever own. And all my kids have seen and they love it. It's lucas' movies but it's my money.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:53 a.m. CST and I must be kindred spirits...

    by John Johnson

    Hey many times as we have talked at AICN shindigs...we have never talked Star Wars...and knowing what I know now...It's crazy. I have been in love with Star Wars since my father first showed it to me when I was about 4. (I don't think he understood the repercussions of his actions) I have defended George Lucas over the years with his changes...and there were a few on these that I disagree with two...but if you are a "true" Star Wars fan...matter they do's about the whole experience and the emotions from those movies. Lucas created such a masterpiece for us that he doesn't feel is done yet and to be honest...I'm ok with it all. I think we should get The Action Pack to do a Star Wars (Original) Trilogy with props and food and the whole she-bang! Hope to chat again soon Harry. May The Force Be With You...Always! Side Note - You put on a great site and almost always have great articles...I hate all of the trollers and ass-hats who are always digging on you and the site...without you there would be no site and I am truly appreciative of you.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Harry, your credibility just took a major nosedive.

    by vorlonkosh

    If you can possibly accept and even like what George has done, how can we take anything you say seriously about other films. You are getting dangerously close to being no more than a quote whore.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST


    by Spyhunter

    I was JUST going to post exactly that after reading his review! Great minds, and all that.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Killick To Nailed it on the coffin!

    by SachMan

    I like the Fact Steven Speilberg admitted that the 20th aniversry Re-lease of ET Sucked Balls! I dont know if anone has got the Bladrunner Box set with all 5 versions of the film! NOW THATS A DVD/BLU RAY!!! Lucas should of put Both versions on there the Originals and the updated ones! I personally dont mind 80% of the updated stuff to be honest dating back to the 97 re-release But my grips are for the obvious following... Han Vs Greedo Nooooooooooo Jedi and my all time WTF get the fuck outta here Hayden Christiensen being in Return of the Jedi! Everything eles I totally get and understand plus you show these movies to kids they dont class as old movie bringing a new generation in! But for the loyal old original fans like myself I just want my own copy off the Original Star Wars Trilogy like everyone eles!

  • They were good stuff and would make a great Saturday morning cartoon conecting the dots between Star Wars and Empire!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Self Involved Nonsense

    by Longtime Lurker

    That is all.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST

    @ bobbofatz

    by mrlebowski

    Actually Da Vinci reworked the Mona Lisa for about 15 years so that's not a very good example.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Dear snakeburton...

    by AudaAbuTayi

    ...writing from ILM (you must be one of the yes-men who replaced Phil Tippet, John Dykstra or Dennis Muren), if I may retort to your hilarious piece. George Lucas wrote and directed Star Wars. The drafts he made for Empire completely invalidate his claim that his plan all along was to make a huge saga (Darth Vador was not Luke's father before 1979), spanning trilogies. He is responsible for half of the magic on display, at most. The writers, directors and FX geniuses who worked on these films are collaborators without whom the films would not have succeeded as they did. Now, he was their general but these footsoldiers (and major players like Gary Kurtz, John Williams, Ken Ralston, Richard Edlund, Joe Johnston, John Dykstra, Ben Burtt Dennis Muren, Phil Tippett, Irvin Kirshner, Lawrence Kasdan, Frank Oz and the whole cast) were the ones working their asses off so that magic would ensue. To buy into Lucas' horrid vision, like Harry does when comparing him to Dali (a resolutely solitary artist) is buying into bullshit. But, while this could all be theoretical, there is proof to back my claim: the poorly written, aesthetically and dramatically inept prequels that are supposedly part of the canon. You'll notice that the crews and cast of the original trilogy are absent from them, even Frank Oz now. Film is a collaborative medium. Just as 2001 wouldn't have had the same impact and commercial success without Douglas Trumbull, Douglas Rain, Arthur C Clarke or Richard Strauss, just as Carpenter's The Thing would have been nothing without Rob Bottin, Kurt Russell and Ennio Morricone's music (often derided, always influential), Empire Strikes Back would be nothing with Lucas alone. But I recently learned he spawned the idea of the helicopter sequence in Apocalypse Now, so that piece of magic isn't Coppola's and Storaro's alone. While I disagree that any change made to a “perfect” film can be any good (and ironically, look more outdated than any optical effect they were trying to “fix”), in the old “if it ain't broke, don't fix it” tradition, I can understand your gripes. As a purist, I don't see the need for any change but, more importantly, I simply want to see the original theatrical release prints (note: I never watch Apocalypse Redux or the long version of Aliens. I do prefer the longer versions of Lawrence of Arabia and Abyss and I can watch any version of Blade Runner and marvel at the tweaks). To deny that these films exist, to refuse to release them in their original form is censorship, akin to Orwellian newspeak (bravo Lucas: you've THXed yourself). And it despises the hard work and magic put into them by supremely creative and talented artists. So, I don't hate Lucas but I despise him. He may own the negatives totally but he owns the magic only partially. And I don't even buy into the whole: fans own the movies, even though they contributed to having them made. The films aren't Lucas' autobiography, as Harry writes. They are the most meaningful, endearing work he's contributed to making. Rewriting history just because all he's done since has been mediocre (though not on a commercial level, granted) requires therapy or perhaps a less juvenile, less stunted body of work. But don't give us the “it's his universe” bullshit. It's the universe of hundreds of people who worked on the film and who are never given enough credit by the impostor who pretends everything came from him. Thankfully, he sold Pixar to Steve Jobs, a man highly critical but respectful of his colleagues (great financial move, BTW ;-)

  • Fuck that shit. The guy is a fucking billionaire. A billionaire thanks to Star Wars. He has more money than God. So what if restoring the original trilogy costs a lot of money? He can afford it. The original trilogy deserves to be fully restored in its original glory. Not just so that Star Wars fans can once again enjoy Star Wars as it was when it premiered in 1977, but also for the sake of film preservation. They recently restored Taxi Driver. It looks stunning on Blu-ray. Are you telling me they can't do the same to Star Wars?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:24 a.m. CST

    cervantes the edits have destroyed the reveals anyway

    by Tomarru

    When you change the dialogue in the middle of empire so that vader is TOLD that luke is his son it totally destroys the impact of the end. I mean neither is it a surprise to the audience, or is it as impactful as having vader realise it himself. It's like him finding a photo of padme that belonged to luke, accompanied by an awesome recording of somebody saying, "Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh!"

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Harry You Need To Be Stopped

    by kidrobot71

    Harry Knowles is the most ridiculous lampoon of a human being I've ever had the displeasure of reading. I say this not because of how he looks or his weight, I don't think anybody could call perfect in that regard, but because of how easily he'll change his mind to suit his needs. I've sat here for over ten years and watched Harry and this blow-job-to-the-industry site smash George Lucas for every tiny thing he's done to the Star Wars Saga and now, suddenly, Harry is lamenting how much he loves them and chastising those of us who are hurt by Lucas's need to fuck with Star Wars and not at least give us the original versions. Really Harry? Who the fuck do you think you are? Did Lucas send you some free stuff? That seems to be the true way to your heart. As much as Harry pretends and lies, he's not a nerd or a geek or anything of the like. Sure he enjoys the same stuff but he's quick to sell anything out if it gets him something or a trip or some token from the industry. Green Lantern was a good film? Seriously? Harry pretty much lavishes anything that he gets something out of. He doesn't want to be an outsider, he lives to be loved by the industry that's slowly destroying everything we love. Oh he gave a bad review to the Straw Dogs remake? Well, that's an easy one. Let's see him do that against the grain, really think outside the box instead of just loving anything that might get him closer to the inner circle. The only writer worth his salt here is Capone. Quint was good but he jetted. Smart man. Stop writing Harry, take your self-involved bullshit, your deplorable skills and love of lathering yourself in Hollywood jizz and stay at home.

  • And you've had roughly 25 years of opportunity to on every conceivable format. Go ahead and whine about HD transfers if you must but crying about that as a possibility just entitlement rearing its head. As for the people that are "embarassed" to show the current version(s) to their children I gather that's to prevent them from seeing you have some kind of dumbass breakdown. I can't imagine any 6-12 year old coming to these movies fresh giving a great God damn about any of the things that make you wet yourself. They may even actually enjoy it - - you know -- like you perhaps did one time. I don't like every change either but several are welcome and obviously improve things. I'll take what I like and and accept the things that I don't as a small price - - but then again I can watch the original versions whenever I want because I'm not fucking stupid or helpless.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Another overbloated review by Harry...

    by richievanderlow

    To each their own, but you could have told this in half the words, and I'd have 10 minutes of my life back... but seriously.. I'm sort of with you on most of this. I think its much ado about nothing. The Han/Greedo thing is a change in characterization and that's why its an important change in the scheme of all the changes. I don't mind most of the changes in the films, but I do hate how they didn't seem to match things up very well. There's a scene in ANH where the new shot shows a baby blue sky, and they cut to a scene where the sky is white. It makes it looks grossly out of place. That's the kind of shit that irks me. George seems to worry over which way a digital character is turning his head in a scene, but then misses that. Ridiculous.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    You really are the worst writer I've ever seen.

    by DctManhattan

    Just fucking terrible.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST


    by richievanderlow

    Yeah, it's not like he couldn't release it in its own independent set that would pay for itself either. Too much money my ass. Mark that down as one of those things Lucas says that isn't true. Like saying that he never said he had a third trilogy in mind (which he did) and like saying he's making these movies fit his original vision. All bullshit.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Harry's writing style....

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    I'm finding that I'm skimming him more & more. I just can't ready this shit. While I agree with him for the most of the broad points he makes here, I can't digest all the flotsam & jetsam he spews in an article like this. I didn't go buy the blu-rays yet. I didn't pre-order. I'm sure I'll get around to it and I'll wait for a deal like I did on the Alien series Blu box set and then I'll jump. That's my message to Lucas - You don't own me on opening weekend anymore. I'll buy this when it's being closed out for the supplemental material...I don't like what he's done with the movies, but I don't hate the movies. I never could hate them. They are always special to me.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Was this the WW2 footage?

    by Fourthwall

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST

    tired of Harry's make believe memories

    by hipsterism

    I noticed this in almost all of your posts about movies that started the summer movie craze 30 or so years ago. you happen to be at everyone and remember them like it was yesterday, save the fact that you would have been like 2 years old. your are not unlike George and make shit up. that said I agree ESB SE is fine to watch. So is almost everything in the original trilogy except the introduction of Jabba in episode 4. That shit should have stayed on the cutting room floor. the new trilogy, there is nothing and I mean nothing that can fix that shit short of a reboot and a total rewrite. oh yeah and for those that want to say jar jar was the issue with that trilogy. he wasn't. George managed to take some of the best actors of the late nineties and early 2000's and make them all look as if they couldn't act. if you doubt me go watch "my life as a house" or "black swan" or "trainspotting" all solid actors. don't get me wrong the new trioloy had all the elements to be great darth maul, pod racing, and the fall of the Jedi, but some how geroge couldn't pull it off and no one in his inner circle asked him what the fuck he was thinking. however much like this website people just kept coming back for some subpar shit...and yes you can count me as one who does and will continue to do so until I can find something better.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by richievanderlow

    I think what bothers me about the end of Jedi is that Anakin is young in that, but Kenobi is old. Why? I think they should remain as Luke would have known them.. which would have been as orginally shown, with the old actors. But... I suppose if he had put McGregor in as Obi Wan, it would at least make some kind of sense that they were both as they were as young men.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:41 a.m. CST

    For a guy who LOVES preserving classic film..

    by mcgillj

    I just find it hard to see Lucas' DISCONNECT.. in that CLASSIC films should be PRESERVED and protected.. yet feels the need to so constantly tinker and re-CGI his own works (and those of Kirschner and Marquand). I mean.. FINE.. you want the films to LOOK seamless.. that they exist in the same universe so you want to drop some CGI creatures in. That's all fine and good.. BUT.. why not make AVAILABLE the original cuts pre CGI? We'll keep some of the tweaks.. removing matte lines.. but when you CROSS that line and ACTUALLY changing CONTENT that's another matter.. and should be addressed seperately. In Empire when they threw in the extra dialogue with McDiarmid.. it still seems oddly out of place.. Hayden in Jedi doesn't bother me so much.. as that WAS the last time he was GOOD.. but.. still its a change.. even the SMALL line in Empire on Degobah "good thing you don't taste very good" replaced with the generic "good thing you got out of there". I'd have ZERO problem.. ponying up for the FIXED ORIGINAL cuts that have been restored (properly) not just thrown on a disc from 20 year old LD transfers.. AND the newest and Blu-est.. I have the THEATRICAL and EXTENDED LOTR.. (in fact I wish Donner would have the OPTION for Lethal Weapon, it actually weakened 2,3 in his extended cuts). BUT.. give the CONSUMER.. and the FAN the CHOICE.. if you enjoyed the 1997 SE's.. more power to you.. if not.. I can LIVE with the Yoda puppet in Phantom.. although it always bothered me he looked VERY LITTLE like the Yoda in the OT.. but what next? replace puppet Yoda in the OT now.. JUST because you can? as someone who LOVES makeup.. and practical fx.. do we want it all eaten up by CG? sometimes those imperfections and flaws are WHAT made the film perfect.. the slight herky jerky motion.. not the smooth of CGI perfection.. its a mark of character.. and part of the soul.. which is slowly being seeped out.. South Park had it right on this one.. in several episodes.. most notably "Free Hat".. its FINE to want to improve.. and make changes.. but IF you want to consider yourself an ARTIST.. then you must realize that those fixes are coming at the cost of the very ART you released.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST

    "Vader" goddamit!

    by AudaAbuTayi

    I come from a country where it's "Vador" for some obscure reason, sorry for that. Anyway, to summarize my post (which is admittedly far too long): Lucas deserves credit for Star Wars but fails to see that these were collaborative films (and that his collaborators were hard-working and just as talented as he is). He should also release the films the way they were originally presented as his reluctance to do so equates to censorship (virtually all the director's cuts Blu-Rays come with the original theatrical version). I say this not only as a Star Wars fan who has to live on memories instead of buying all the re-releases but as someone who respects film. Film should not be colorized, film should not be tweaked and "improved upon" or expanded if it means the original form is censored and virtually obliterated. I also object to finding ancient, optical FX corny: don't you find Forbidden Planet, Metropolis or King Kong awesome, despite their "outdated" FX? I always have, ever since I was a kid. It's not about technology, it's the message.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Dear audaabutayi...

    by tailhook

    What a load of horseshit. You know damn good and well that all of those people are awesome at visualizing aspects of worlds, not a one of them is really any good at creating one. The universe and style of SW is uniquely George Lucas. Has been and always will be. And that part of it is irregardless of Vader being Luke's father or some other plot point. I will agree that the various principles do have some ownership of what finally got made. James Earl Jones *IS* Darth Vader in the black. SW just doesn't work without John Williams's music. Etc Etc. But the universe itself that these people tool around in and make great art, often at Lucas's direction? George Lucas. I mean, i'm sure J.K Rowling could farm out a series of 7 new books dealing with a middle-aged Harry Potter saving the world off a base outline to different writers. Does that suddenly make the universe of Harry Potter not hers? No.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    This is the first SW release I boycotted

    by romanocc

    Yesterday the SW Bluray Boxset was released, and for the first time since 1977, I took a pass on my beloved franchise. Now I am not going to call George Lucas names like many internet fans, as I think the name calling is only makes the fans just as bad as how we perceive the changes. Since this is the 3rd times Lucas has changed the OT movies, I sort of looking at this whole exercise as one simple word: Silly. Being a SW fan these days is really silly, because there is too much BS and controversy whenever Lucas releases something to fans. I personally just want the OOT movies fully restored, and if there were any other franchise like Alien, Lord of the Rings, Terminator, etc, I would have gladly bought the boxset yesterday and would be sitting back this weekend enjoying them on 55" HDTV. The changes have always annoyed me but like many fans I put up with them as I bought the 2004 DVD's. But I kinda put my hands up this time as its enough with the changes, and paying 90+ dollars for a boxset that doesn't contain one movie version of the 3 I love along with the 3 PT movies that I don't care about, why should I even think about opening my wallet? This boxset could have been a slam dunk to ALL fans, put in the originals, 97, 04, 11 OT versions, put in the PT movies with and without deleted scenes, give some better documentaries then a bunch of people who dress up like Star Wars characters! I watched the Deleted Scenes on Youtube last night, and they were cool to see, but you can only watch them once or twice anyway, so I got my fix before they are removed. I know most fans will cave, and my protest vote won't be enough to cut into Lucasfilms profits, but at this point for my self respect, I would feel utterly creepy buying this set knowing there isn't anything I truly love in it. Star Wars these days is silly, just plain silly.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Wrong Harry. Star Wars is the story of a egomaniac with his head up his ass.

    by alienindisguise

    and be careful Harry. I wouldn't want you to trip and fall over all those names you dropped.

  • LMAO So how many people are hanging in your hallway? Is your house like some creepy Texas Chainsaw shit?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST


    by Mr Lucas

    It's certainly possible to produce HD versions of the originals - for less than a million dollars. That's loose change for George.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    "it's not about the technology used...

    by AudaAbuTayi's the message and wonder delivered that impact us," is what I should have written. Alright, now I'll shut up for six months and stop annotating my previous posts. First though, I will respectfully ask you not to buy these Blu-Rays even though I know most of you will.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Sure, I won't buy them...

    by tailhook

    Only thing is, I allready did.

  • Fuck this shit.Let's ignore the fact that Lucas is a billionaire who can afford this restoration.The expenses for the surgery to fix that fat neck of his,would have costed more. Lucas could easily lend to the fans the original films and they gladly would have done the whole job better,with more care and love and ofc free. But alas even that is too much for the Fatso to do.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    But no childhood memories in the Straw Dogs review?

    by Tristan

    I had a dog as a child. One day he ate straw. He died. I loved that dog. Then I saw the original Straw Dogs. I loved it like I loved that dog. Somehow, that movie became a replacement for my real 'straw dog', Benji.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:12 a.m. CST

    There is only one test of the Star Wars fan:

    by A G

    If you met George Lucas, would you shake his hand and thank him, or shout in his face and condemn him? That's the question.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    a g

    by Mr Lucas

    I did shake his hand and thank him, but that was before the prequels were released. Now, I might stink-palm him - y'know fer the lulz.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST

    "film" is what "movies" are known as in...

    by A G

    ...every country in the world besides the US. This is because the art form is depicted on something called "film", thus making them "films". Just like a "newspaper" isn't called a "static-read".

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    The Tyrant With A Thousand Yes-Men

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    All looked upon the throne, and heard and saw Nothing but Lucas, he alone was king, Absorbing every dollar; and in their praise, And adoration of that mortal man, Forgot the worship of the great Collaboration. Then proudly thus he to his fanboys spoke, Intoxicated with their loud applause, =I am unequaled, for to me the earth Owes all its blockbusters, never did exist A cash cow like mine, beneficent And glorious, driving from the populous land Boba Fett's mystique and Han Solo's testicles. Pink Lightsabers and blinking Ewoks Proceed from me, all that is good and Digital Waits my behest; the universal pocketbook Declares the splendor of my corporation, Beyond whatever childhood imagination conceived, And me the only Auteur of the world.= --Soon as these words had parted from his lips, Words impious, and insulting to high heaven, His earthly grandeur faded--then all internetz Grew clamorous and bold. The day of Lucas Passed into gloom, his brightness all obscured. What said the Talkbacker? =When thou wert a newb Thy customers were impressed, but whoever Proudly neglects the worship of his Fans, Brings desolation on his legacy and bottom line.= --And when he marked the insolence of his people, He knew the wrath of Geekdom had been provoked, And apathy overcame him. =No longer referring the boons of his reign to their transcendent (collaborative) source, the emperor (douche) breaks the stereoptic vision which it is his role to sustain. He is no longer the mediator between the two worlds. Man's perspective flattens to include only the human term of the equation, and the experience of a supernal power immediately fails, The upholding idea of the community is lost. Force (ironically enough) is all that binds it. The emperor becomes the tyrant ogre (Darth Goiter), the usurper from whom the world is now to be saved.= - Joseph Campbell

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    I NEVER would have put Jake Lloyd (alone) on the box art

    by BoyNamedSue

    Need I explain why?!?!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Harry, have you seen Star Wars Revisited yet?

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    That shit will make you smile and cry for real.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    The changes are awful and anyone who buys this crap is a fool

    by theblackvegtable

    I'm not even a fanatical fan but come on NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • I just came to laugh at what you write. But didn't even make it past the first sentence - an 'f' word? Really? That's so classy.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    we're mad BECAUSE we love Star Wars as much as you do

    by chifforobe

    This stuff is in my DNA-- I got to see Empire and Jedi in the theater, and watched them on CED disc as my brain was forming. I can now watch any of the original three just by closing my eyes. When the special editions first came out, I was still young enough to be excited-- but the Phantom Menace lost me (at "ex-squeeze me" to be exact). What I've realized is that Lucas has assumed authorship of everything that Star Wars is, and he's wrong. Joseph Campbell provided the blue-print, his actors helped him with the dialog, Ralph Mcquarrie designed the universe, and John Williams brought it to life-- Lucas had the luck and the rigor to pull it all together. He caught lightning in a bottle. Then he jammed his pudgy fingers into the bottle again and again-- but the "painter" analogy is bullshit. A painter does not go back and fiddle with an old work (sorry Harry), they make a new painting. Most artists have realized that even if they want to go back, they can't. Hence the problem with "Noooo". I'm sure I don't need to point out that "Noooo" was the "ex-squeeze me" of episode 3 (the part that made your stomach sink, your body declaring that pure shit had just been injested). That scene in Return of the Jedi has given me chills every time I've seen it. It is the high point of Star Wars, if anything in the world is perfect, it's the moment we see Vader's soul change behind that inscrutible black face. If there can be a last straw, ruining that scene MUST be it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    While the continous "tweaks" are terrible,

    by atalcot

    I think I'm mostly mad that he refuses to release the theatrical cuts into any of the new formats. I really couldn't care less if he re-edits them to death, provided he preserves the originals. The most boggling thing about all of this is George's apparent hatred of the originals that made him rich in the first place.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    I’ll take it in the rough.

    by MisterMxyzptlk

    Yes you will, apologist. Yes, you will.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    srsly dont people just get tired of watching this stuff?

    by iampain

    the most overrated stuff ever.

  • Rightly or wrongly, it's just the final fuckin' straw. I no longer need to spend any more of my hard-earned money on anything to do with what has become a bored, egomaniacal billionaire's personal playthings. I no longer need to pay any further attention to anything to do with this thing that Star Wars has become. I have my childhood memories of the first 2 movies and a few parts of the flawed third movie and that's quite enough for me. Fuck the rest of it, I don't give a shit anymore. That's it. Over and out.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Episodes VII, VIII, and IX, Harry!

    by puto tenax

    Search your feelings; you know uncle George will make them. I expect we'll hear from him next year. He's sitting on one of the universe's reliable money source.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Starwars was the coolest fucking thing ever made.

    by UltraTron

    Here's to starwars. The single totem that was in the background of the heyday of the arcade, home computer and disco revolution. The greatest feel good ending in movie history. The new myth for modern man

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:11 a.m. CST

    This is all exactly why people are so upset at the changes

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    Kind of a weird article. Going on and on about why Star Wars is so great and how much it means and how it shaped us as people is exactly why people are upset about the changes. As for me, a few seconds here or there of changes don't overshadow the greatness of Star Wars. It's like viewing the Mona Lisa and complaining that you don't like the frame.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    iampain: why, you're a hungk

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    iampain: why, you're a hungk

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    iampain: Why, you're a hungry little troll aren't you!!??

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

  • I considered it a cultural landmark. If you didn't see it. You simply were not part of the world everyone else who had was living in. You didn't know shit from shinola

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Why I'm upset about the Star Wars Blu-rays...

    by Candice

    I completely understand Harry's opinion that George Lucas fancies himself a cinematic painter who can tweak HIS movies. No doubt, he has a right to change what he wants. And honestly, I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan, but my husband is. Perhaps the biggest Star Wars. One day, my husband and I plan to have children. I want them to see with their father and hopefully their grandfather the version of the movie we saw at their age. I want my kids to have the moment my husband had of wondering if Darth Vader was going to help the Emperor kill his son (the NOOO really kills the mystery). I want my husband to be able to explain that moment to our children the way only a father can and the way his father explained it to him. By not including the original on DVD or Blu ray, I'm going to have to hunt down a VHS player and my father-in-law's VHS copies of the movies and watch static-y versions during which my children will probably be more distracted by "what the hell is wrong with the TV?" than actually watching the film. It's not that George Lucas is stealing my childhood. He's stealing my children's childhood. He's stealing a crucial part of how I envision being a parent. Change the movie as much as you want. But I just really want him to INCLUDE the original theatrical release in the blu-ray. I don't think that's asking much.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I have had for a long time a huge a problem with this site.

    by emeraldboy

    I am not talking about the recent censoring or banning people's comments. Its more like people dont understand a couple of things. one. Making movies is a business. Lucas was never in it to tell stories like most directors. and this was evident from his early days in ucla. He wanted to change the way we see movies and hear them. In order to do this he set up Lucas Film. his first film was thx 1138. that movie was all about lucas's vision of the future but lucas made it so that he could experiment with sound. Thx 1138 was the movie he made while graduating from college. he was part of that new wave like the berg, depalma and scorcese and stone who tapped into that malaise which was tearing america apart in the late 1960's. These guys became the mainstream by the early 1990s. liberals hate people who do well financially and lucas who came from republican stock has done just that. both political views have thier flaws. Lucas is no fool. He has done well. He has made money. He has built a company that makes games, movies and tv shows and built industrial light and magic from the ground up. Harry knowles has never ever tried to produce, write, edit, distribute or musically score, direct a major motion picture. and he has no analytical skills when it comes to reviewing movies. all harry knowles has to show for it is a website about movies. but one that offers very little insight into how films/movies get made. and you can tell the hatred for fox goes on because there has be no coverage of PROMETHEUS. no set pictures, no interviews, no news about when the trailer is coming out or anything.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I Won't Buy It

    by Crow3711

    I won't. I bought the DVDs when he begrudgingly released the set that had the altered versions and, thank god, the real, unedited, theatrical release versions. As far as I know, that's the only way to have the originals on DVD. If the originals were on this in blu-ray...maybe. But I don't need a bluray set with a bunch of changes I despise. I'll never, ever watch it. So what's the point? I also just want to point out that on that set that has both the edited and theatrical releases, George had the balls to put the edited shit versions on the "real" discs, and the theatrical releases comprise the "bonus features" disc. Cause the movie, the way it meant to be seen, is a bonus feature. Fuck you GL.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Geek:"I won't buy the Star Wars BluRay"= Hipster "I don't own a TV"

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Beautifully said...

    by Kevin Abeyta

    Harry, I have to say I enjoyed this article very much. I don't post to the talkbacks that much but I felt I had to considering the subject. I too feel as you do. Star Wars is THAT film. It is for me the movie I tell my kids about and how much of an impact it had on me as a 7 year old growing up in El Paso, Texas. I rode my bike to that film by myself, was supposed to meet two other friends who didn't show up and I went anyways. Alone. Sitting there in that theater watching the story unfold was like nothing else I've ever experienced before or since in my movie going life. (Ok, seeing a restored print of "The Birds" with my Dad in my teens was a very close second.) I've bitched and moaned about Lucas' constant tweaking and retooling of the series over the years as well. Your article has brought me around. What is important for me, and for folks of our particular age and generation, is that the film still resonates not only for us, but for younger people as well. It has been a common language in my house between my wife and my two kids. It is a film that still sits in a special place in my heart. It is a film that reminds me that there was a time in this world that a 7 year old kid could ride his bike to the movies with his own money and experience a truly magical movie in a way that is not possible in this day and age. Thank you for reminding me of that. Cheers, Kevin Abeyta

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Lucas still hasn't deleted Leia kissing her own brother from ESB

    by BoyNamedSue

    So much for perfectionism!!

  • ...Seriously, people are talking here as if the originals were never released on DVD. Two years ago I bought the original trilogy, special editions and unaltered bundled together for my brothers birthday, AND the unaltered cuts were digitally restored to pristine condition. Anybody else buy these?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Oh, just saw your post crow3711, think that's the version I bought

    by FreeBeer

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I truly don't care about Star Wars anymore...

    by jimmy_009

    I guess I've grown up and realized everything to do with Star Wars since Jedi has been mediocre filler and squandered potential. The movies, the animated series, the toys... everything. Just mediocre. Then I go back and realize it was only two movies that were actually great and I've seen them both so many times I could probably not ever see them again and be just fine. Star Wars was a perfect little snowflake that fell and snowballed into a horrible avalanche of mediocrity and fanboydom. This is the dozenth incarnation of the series and there will be dozens more. It's not even news at this point. I have zero interest in Star Wars anymore. That train has sailed.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Original Prints

    by TDavis

    Whenever I want to watch any of the "Original Three", I just get out my old Laserdiscs. No, they're not even DVD quality, but they look (and SOUND) damn fine to me.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Yes, and...just give us the fucking originals too

    by menacingphantom

    I don't give a shit what Lucas does to each new release of these films. Just give us the originals in HD too. Seriously. Like every other major movie ever made in Hollywood. Stop pretending that Lucas keeping the originals out of the hands of fans isn't weird and kind of sadistic.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:58 a.m. CST

    -- arteska: On DVD availibility

    by MooseMalloy

    Actually those DVD's have been pulled from retailer shelves and are already on the secondary market at higher prices. I knew this a few months ago and went out of my way to pick up SW and JEDI, having only bought ESB when the non-SE versions were released. If anyone is still planning on getting those dvd's then you better act quick before the prices rise even higher.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    How many other guys name their film companies after themselves?

    by menacingphantom

    Lucasfilm Limited. Someone needs to limit him alright.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Coppolafilm? Spielbergfilm? Scottfilm?

    by menacingphantom

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by mcgoocain

    Your disjointed thoughts are a simplistic, mostly wrong, mess.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    I was sitting in a cinema in dublin in the 1990s

    by emeraldboy

    and I saw something which knocked me for six. it was the trailer for the lion king and the song the circle of life. and it still is a rip off and stuff. but that circle of life opening is amazing. and it has a star wars of connection as it stars James Earl Jones.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Fan Edits...

    by vicmackey1268

    Lucas lets fans make their own edits and provides materials to them for free, then has a theater showing every year for the fans where they can present their own works of art....clearly he cares about he gives us the means to make the series as good as we far as I'm concerned this guy is just fan-editing his own movies....if we can do it, he should be able to do it too...he's a big kid playing with his will I buy this....nope, I'll wait for the thing that replaces Blu-ray by the time the final 3D film is released years from now...but I think all the hate for this guy is redonk...except for Clones...that was horrendous

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    My Thoughts on Endless New Editions...

    by MattDomville

    A comic that captures them, in a nutshell:

  • It looks like a "Heavy Metal" segment, even a little bit Ralph Bakshi-esque. I still love that cartoon. I remember seeing it the first time, and I was already bug eyed with anticipation over this mysterious character called Boba Fett, and this was the first time we got to see him in action and hear him speak. I had sent off my proofs-of-purchase, but hadn't got my advanced Boba Fett action figure yet (another life changing day to come). I think it's cool that Lucas decided to include this cartoon as an Easter Egg because it really is a part of "Star Wars" history. This was the introduction of Boba Fett; the start of a cult all his own.

  • Fuck Lucas and fuck these blurays. I'll (re-)buy the originals (ONLY the originals) when Emperor Neckfat releases them in hd, in their original form, without any "special" editions. At all. I'm sorry, Harry, if you truly loved these films, you wouldn't be endorsing these blurays.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Well said sir.

    by Stefan Gearhart

    You could not have put that any better. I sometimes look at Star Wars fans (me included) like a sports fan yelling at the tv and the coach. Getting mad. Its not your art just like it isn't your team. I appreciate all the interpretations of his work. When we all bitched about continuity issues in the prequels, he fixed it. He fixed it, we bitched. Can't please us I guess. Once again I say though, well said sir. I completely agree with you.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    vicmackey, what do you mean by Lucas lets fans make their own edits and provides materials to them for free? Can you clarify. As I understand it anyone can make fan edits of any movie - so long as they are non-profit. I know that the fan edit scene came to wider world attention because of THE PHANTOM EDIT and SW saga remains the most popular movie for fan editors. However I would actually say this Blu Ray provides nothing new for fan editors and actually will cause them a lot of problems. They have the HD transfers which is great, but all the deleted scenes from the PT which were on the DVD with finished FX are NOT included on this set. So fan editors wont be able to include any of these scenes without an obvious drop in quality from HD to DVD. Furthermore all the OT deleted scenes are in a poor state of repair and likewise could not be incorporated into any fan edits without a glaring drop in quality. With the ANH Jabba scene and the Biggs Luke reunion scene, LucasFilm showed that the deleted material *could* be cleaned up to pristine condition. Shame they didnt do it for the blu ray.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I'll get 'em for Xmas, for free, and feel good about it

    by SoylentMean

    Right now, I'd rather spend the $80 on something else. I'm fully prepared to mute my tv when Vader tosses the Emperor.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Cost to restore the originals = $0

    by tomandshell

    Robert Harris, arguably the best in the field, has already publicly stated that he would do it for free. There would be no cost to Lucas. He just needs to give his permission and history would have a record of the original films.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    too long didnt read

    by elsewhere

    But let me guess, Harry approves of the boxset and George Lucas is an ok guy. yawn Fuck Lucas and fuck these Blu-Rays.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    a funny quote from our pal, Grant Morrison...

    by maxwell's hammer

    If only one-tenth of the righteous, sputtering wrath of these anonymous zealots [i.e., internet 'fandom'] could be mustered against the horrors of bigotry or poverty, we might find ourselves overnight in a finer world.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Sappy, And Totally Missing The Point

    by THX1968

    Lucas taught you how to appreciate a fucking sunset? That has to be the single most idiotic thing I have ever read in my entire life. That tops any idiotic thing Quint has ever said, to be sure. No, Lucas didn't ruin my childhood memories. However, I don't get to watch the film that I went crazy for as a kid, because Lucas won't let me. Lucas can dick around with the Original Trilogy all he wants. I could give a shit. It is the total refusal to give the fans the originals in the best format and quality possible that pisses me off and countless others. I have many a fond memory of seeing the originals - those are moments in which I can recount every circumstance. The Lucas empire was built on the many millions of dollars fans like myself have been giving him since the beginning. Not giving the people the original films is just plain rude. The ultimate "fuck you" from Lucas. He seriously spits on us. It is betrayal. It is. Simple as that. He cares so little that as he continues to fuck with the originals, he laughs as he twists the knife just a little bit more in the side of fandom that put him where he is. He should know better, but he doesn't. I'm not buying the fucking Blu Ray because it isn't the product that I want to buy. At the very least, you'd think that Lucas, the ultimate businessman (not filmmaker, businessman), would recognize the market for the unfucked with originals.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    More inchoherent babbling from Harry.

    by Volllllume3

    Jesus Christ what a fucking idiot. Fuck him and fuck Lucas.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    excellent insight by harry

    by Detached

    Harry's clearly paid attention over the years (decades), and he "gets it" on why Lucas does what he does. These are the comments of someone who has watched someone & learned why he's doing the things he's doing. On a secondary note- definitely agree re the whole "shockwave" effect when the Death Star explodes. It's unnecessary.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Did not buy, will not buy

    by Badger23

    I thought the economy was bad right now. Why the fuck are people wasting their money?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Fuck George Lucas

    by Ironhelix

    The movies that I fell in love with are now gone. It's as if Carpenter went back and totally replaced all the practical Thing effects with CGI. I don't want to see that movie, and I don't want to see Vader say shit that wasn't in the movie as it was originally conceived.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    The main reason the HOLIDAY SPECIAL has been removed from circulation --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- is because Carrie Fisher is high as shit throughout it. That and the interpretive dance numbers.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    The original negatives are NOT in piss poor condition

    by DaveJ

    The original negatives for all 3 films were completely restored in preparation for the 1997 special edition. They had to restore the original footage BEFORE they could add all of the CG to it. All of the original negative pieces are carefully stored and digitized. It would take very little effort or cost to create a digital restoration of the original versions. George's claim that the orginal doesn't exist is from "a certain point of view". It's bullshit. Lucas himself owns a techicolor print of the 1977 version. Those don't fade. He could do a 4k scan of that print, do some digital cleanup and have a pristine HD version of Star Wars.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    The shockwave effect was stupid and stolen from Star Trek 6

    by Badger23

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    I know writers who re-work their books

    by Hipshot

    And others who don't. It's a matter of tastes. Lucas has the right to do it, and you have the right not to buy the new version. He didn't rape anyone's childhood. If your childhood was abused, look elsewhere for the blame.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Someone wrote that...

    by bubcus

    ... the negatives to the OT were destroyed while making the Special Editions. It was the last chance to preserve the films and they did their best in salvaging and to be grateful for what we have. If we don't get the original theatrical print on Blu-Ray, so be it. But, I would love to see a theatrical CUT brought to DVD. Color corrections, fixes, etc look great but some of the new scenes don't work or don't gel with the audience, so I would have loved to see a cleaned up, rebuilt CUT of the version we all loved. I held the new boxset in my hand last night staring at the price tag debating on the purchase. Did I want to spend $90 on this? I only wanted discs 7,8, and 9. I then called my friend to see if he had bought it. He had. So I put the set back down on the store shelf and I'm going to his place to watch it as soon as I can. I don't claim George raped my childhood. We revered this man as a cinematic god for years. I'm frustrated with him at times, but he gave us Star Wars, and Indiana Jones, and Willow, ILM, THX, Skywalker Sound, Digital Theaters... he will remain a legend and a genius in my heart forever.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Harry, give me one good reason turkey neck has to deny the fans

    by Nerd Rage

    ...the originals. Especially if the fans have been begging for them for decades?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Lucas is the Obama of the movie world

    by SmokingRobot

    So arrogant, so out of touch with reality.

  • he likes money too much. That's why we got Ewoks instead of Wookies.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Why is every Harry review 10 pages of autobiography?

    by briantag

    We know you were a kid in Texas. We know you deeply love films and they changed you in amazing ways. We know you play with toys. Can you just get into the actual reviewing of the stuff? Peace out.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Sorry, George, not gonna happen.

    by bat725

    Is it too late to grab the original editions on DVD?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Goddammit George,goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    The painting analogy..

    by Lord Albion

    Whilst I can see how a printer/filmmaker might adjust, tweak or touch up his work based on improvements in technology or techniques, or to address issues with composition, I can't imagine Carravagio or Leonard Da Vinci popping into the local gallery and starting to paint over someone else's canvas, in order to make it comply with THEIR vision.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    The painting analogy..

    by Lord Albion

    *a painter/filmmaker*

  • .....that the man never had a clear vision of what he wanted it to be. He's had the time and the available technology for years. He could have made his "final cut" at ANY time before now. Bottom line: he has an unfixable character flaw. Maybe he is OCD. Maybe his self-esteem is so low that he doubts his every creative decision and constantly has to re-think. He must be an impossible person to be around. Annoying as fuck, I'd bet. Maybe he feels resentment towards the films: he got pigeonholed by them and nothing he can ever do as a writer or director will ever be more successful than those. He's trapped. No one will ever take any of his non-SW work seriously (especially after CRYSTAL SKULL). Or maybe SW was his one and only true creative spark other than AMERICAN GRAFFITI. His blatant disregard for the love the fans have for his original works is proof enough that he is a profoundly disturbed and flawed man, maybe even sociopathic. If I met him on the street, I would probably have to tell him off (not that he would give a rat's ass what I have to say). He lucked into good fortune, made a shitload of money, then went bat-shit crazy and destroyed his own name. He's Charlie Sheen.

  • That asshole isn't getting one more fucking dime of my money. Ever. For anything.

  • Hey, you're right, he can do whatever he wants to a series of films that people love. He can vomit his raging narcissism and insecurities all over them, and in that process, completely ruin a beloved cultural artifact. But should he? I say, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" which is why I'm not buying them.

  • Would you protest or just hump a plastic imitation... I guess we know what Harry would do.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Now, that's what I'm talking about, Harry --

    by emu47

    Takes a strong geek to stand behind Star Wars these days, but I'm with you. Star Wars will always be a special thing.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    I'm not boycotting these Blu-Ray set for the miniscule changes, however..

    by ganymede3010

    I am boycotting this Blu Ray set due to the prequels being an utter failure. I just pains me to sit through them knowing he blew the biggest opportunity in cinema history.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    "Changes so bad I can't show my kids"?!?!

    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    With that already, goddamn really?? Drama much?? You can still get good copies of the originals, even on LD now. They will release them, the fucking vag juice flowing over this shit is amazing. You have a choice, no one destroyed the original versions. The originals will eventually be available on Blu, fucking relax already.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST


    by Mako

    Nicely put HK. 9/10 changes, I could care less about in the OT. It's just when Lucas changes slight character and story points that gets me riled up. If he wants to go and polish up things that don't effect those moments... then by all means... go ahead, George.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Bitter nerds.Pissing and moaning from Mom's basement.

    by C

    for the first time in a long time I agree with you Harry. Well put.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    lord_albion..ya beat me too it.

    by conspiracy

    Harry..I really suggest you take a few classes in art appreciation. Painters paint the moment...they do NOT go back and add things up every few years; because the moment they were trying to capture would then be lost. Lucas is not a painter...he isn't even a filmmaker at this point...he is a man who most probably needs therapy.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    There's really no need...

    by RRL

    ...for the type of comments that "thin man" just left. I'm glad someone took the time to point that out.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Sorry, No Time To Read All the Talkbacks-I've Got STAR WARS ON BLURAY!

    by dumbpeoplesuck

    And I agree with everything Harry has said. snakeburton and I have pretty much the same take on everything, especially the Han and Greedo exchange. I can live with this version MUCH easier than the 2004 DVD version. AND ALL THE SOUND PROBLEMS ARE INDEED GONE! Yes, I bought the whole thing...but I'm watching the ORIGINAL HOLY TRILOGY first. Back to the set!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Preordered it in January. Got it yesterday.

    by Nice Marmot

    Original trilogy only. Watched ANH this morning. My 2 year old daughter saw StarWars for the first time EVER. Or at least the first 20 minutes before getting bored w/ it. Upon first seeing the Death Star, she yelled, "MOON!" I grinned so f-ing hard!!!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Here, here Harry!

    by Raymar

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST


    by vicmackey1268

    I meant that Lucas has effects and sounds and footage up for grabs on his sites so anyone can take his films and stylize them however they want...a perfect example of this is Star Wars Begins on Youtube, probably one of the best fan-made movie commentaries I've ever seen. The fan got all of the lost footage and interviews free just from asking for them Add that to the fact that every year there's the fan film convention that also showcases fan edits of the series, things removed, altered, changed, that keep the same my opinion is that if Lucas is letting anyone take his trilogy and add/remove/tweak things, he should be able to do the same thing. I feel like he keeps going back to these and altering them little by little like fans do routinely and I really can't get mad at him for that. There are plenty of ways to snag the original trilogy through fan sites and forums and even though it sucks that the originals aren't on bluray yet, it's really not that big of a deal that Lucas is tweaking his own work when, if we reaaaallllyyyy, wanted to, we could tweak our own versions as much as we wanted. I just think it's our own faults for spending $80 on these, but complaining doesn't really solve anything. If you don't want them/like them, go to Youtube and watch the 720p fan films with all the old stuff still in it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    On Harry's writing style

    by D.Vader

    I don't understand how someone can regress instead of grow as a writer.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    george's clones are just doing what they know to do.

    by vulturess

    run skywalker ranch, keep everyone thinking george lucas is still alive, run skywalker ranch.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I just realized something...

    by JustinSane "improving" the originals, Lucas has effectively destroyed the legacies of hundreds of people who, undoubtedly, worked themselves to the bone for the original trilogy. No longer can a miniature builder or matte artist or animator point to Star Wars and tell his or her grandchildren "I did that!" How sad.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Seriously George, you couldn't fix that backwards R2?

    by TheBriGuy

    I can't believe with all his tinkering around, Lucas couldn't fix one of the most embarassing errors you'll ever see. The scene in E1 where Anakin is in the Naboo Starfighter and Artoo is transposed (photographically reversed) behind him is still broken.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Completely Weak.

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    The OT was fantastic for me at 5. Still stands up unedited. It's nice to add shit with the flow of technology, but I mean, how much more does Lucas need to add? And I'm 501st. I'm pissed at Lucas and hate the fuckers in the 501st who dress as clone troopers.

  • He should have brought Irving Kershner on board for the prequels to co-direct--focusing on the actors while he handled the visuals. Imagine the performances Kersh could have gotten out of Portman, Neeson, McGreggor, Jackson and Lee...

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    I bet there's STILL loads of matte lines!


    And other bad special effects that should be updated....left untouched.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by vicmackey1268

    Spielberg listened to fans who didn't like the SE of ET and is releasing the bluray with the original cut....another reason why he's much much better. He also didn't want to do Indy 4 and was pressured into it by Lucas who wanted the original name to be Indiana Jones and the Giant Killer Ants...friggin moron. If anyone should make statements like "ruined my childhood" it should be about Indy 4, not these Star Wars blurays.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    And that Star Destroyer crashing into Death Star too should be redone.


    In ROTJ. That looked really unconvincing. But I bet Lucas hasn't redone that too.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Harry is a whore and a PAID ONE AT THAT

    by the_rising

    Fuck this shit. It's garbage. Fuck George and his revisionist history.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    The Star Destroyer crashing looks fine

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Nice article, Harry!

    by Zardoz

    But I'm still not gonna buy the blu-rays!

  • Lucas should be ashamed of himself.

  • I disagree with that, at least in terms of the prequels. Yes, his concept artists, designers and vfx people created some imaginative visuals, but his cinematic style is very uninteresting. Red Letter Media's excellent Episode III review talked about this a lot. Especially in the dialogue-heavy scenes, his choice of shots, the way they're cut together, and the blocking of scenes is so lacking in energy and excitement. Compare it with the craft that more skilled directors (when they're on form) bring to their work. They know when to stay wide, when to move in for a close-up, when move to their camera, and so on. On the whole, Lucas's style in the prequels is so perfunctory. If you haven't, check out the review. It might not change your mind, but it quite brilliantly illustrates this point.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Why do SO MANY PEOPLE complain that original isn't on DVD?

    by Dreamwriter

    It *IS*. When the DVD's were re-released in 2006, there was a limited edition that came with the original theatrical edition of each of the movies on DVD. Sure, it wasn't everything people wanted - it was letterboxed, apparently sourced from the laser disc... but people here keep saying things like "I have to pull out my VHS tape..." or "I have this crappy bootleg from the laserdisc I have to use" or just complain that all they want is the original version on DVD. And there it is, the best possible way to view the theatrical edition and apparently nobody knows it exists, or ignores its existence. Lucas did officially release it, it was available, you can still get it on eBay or

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I'm watching all the extras on youtube for free right now..FUCK YOU!

    by alienindisguise

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST


    by Paul

    -loooooong time reader. I completely agree with you 100%. STAR WARS was my entry into the world of film. I signed up today to finally have my opinion on the talk back. Everyone that works for AICN is great. I love this site. It's my daily check up on all things geek. Yes at times you don't have the new "news", you have the geek news. I've read talk backs for years. Finally I needed to have my say. STAR WARS is the reason we check sites like AICN. To complain and bitch about the changes Mr. Lucas has made to STAR WARS is complaining and bitching about what STAR WARS is. It's freedom. Mr. Lucas owns his works. That in itself is amazing. Good for him. We get to see what he is thinking for years to come. We should be grateful. Some nerds think he is mucking it up. That is their opinion. I however believe he is building on it. Did I fall head over heals for the original STAR WARS when my mom showed it to me. Of course I did. But the fact I can get a Blu-Ray version of magic with Mr. Lucas' added touch over the years which connects me to that amazing day I first saw it..yes please sign me up. Thanks Harry for finally stating your opinion on the "raped" geeks..who by the way will have the blu-ray, watch in amazement and bitch later.

  • you are a dipshit.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    There are not a lot of Star Wars fans on this site

    by A G

    It's worth noting that AICN was virtually built upon rumours for The Phantom Menace. That's how far Star Wars has fallen.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Harry, we get it, you're better than us and every other geek...

    by performingmonkey

    Seriously, every article is like 'oh, listen to my story, it's better than yours, I am geekdom and no-one else can come close to how *insert random geek property* touches me deep inside, Aunt Beru burned and so did my mom' please... I swear you just make up different versions of your life story depending on what's up for discussion. Never known a bigger attention-seeker...*sigh* Btw, I really hope you get out of that chair, but I'm also glad you had that wake-up call earlier when you got LESS attention through being in it cause you couldn't make it up to that party. That's a huge step towards you changing. Oh, randomly, who was it from here who's banned from Skywalker Ranch, anyone enlighten me??

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    d.vader ...It is almost unreadable...took me 3 tries.

    by conspiracy

    With Harry I've learned to just Scan it and look for the relevant information and avoid the background clutter.

  • Which is fine, but don't try to mask it as a protest because you're only punishing yourself because these look and sound unbelievable

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    justinsane, That's been Georges intention all along.

    by conspiracy

    As long time readers of this site well know, I have spent some bit of time analyzing George Lucas Motivations for his incessant meddling. It comes down to a classic case of Narcissism and a deep seated loathing of the Original trilogy and the people who actually made it something special. George is a great Ideas man...but a terrible writer and director. The BEST of the series is the film he had almost nothing to do with. Even more, George seemingly has a Vendetta out for the contributions of his ex-wife, the genius editor of the Originals, and also of Gary Kurtz, who forced George to leave out much of what we are not getting put back in. George always said the Originals were not HIS vision...and now the raging narcissist is remaking them bit by bit, erasing the artistry of others and replacing them with stilted dialog and his "visionary" CGI masturbations cluttering up the screen. And THAT is where Harrys "Painter" analogy really falls on its face. The Prequels may be 100% undiluted George...but the Originals were 100% collaborative affairs with numerous writers, directors, animators, editors and not a YES MAN in sight. THAT is why THOSE films are the ones people care about. I'm willing to bet not a single person would give a good god damn if he changed every aspect of the Prequels...

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    performingmonkey..I THINK is was Drew "Moriarty"

    by conspiracy

    I can't remember why...I think it was because he did a less than ass kissing review of Episode 1 script. George has banned many folks over the years...even David Prowse. George is a thin skinned fuck. Read the book The Making of Revenge of the Sith...which though a pure fluff piece from Lucas film...perfectly conveys the sense that everyone involved with him fears him and walks on eggshells for fear of never working again.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    But Dali didn't go and repaint his originials

    by ATARI

    So, Harry, that's actually poor analogy.<br> <br> <br> Han shot.<br> Period.<br> <br>

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    So Harry what if Uncle Fatso wakes one morning and decides

    by KilliK

    that he doesnt like the way ESB tells the story,and decides to pronounce it stops being part of the Canonical Universe and that he will replaced it with a new remake? how about that? are you willing to forgive him and swallow his fat,bearded dick even then? well?

  • fucking edit

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Lucas never took Star Wars as seriously as the fans.

    by Anti-fanboy

    That disconnect became really apparent with ROTJ, and the departure of Kurtz. Kirshner and Kurtz sought some emotional truth and resonance with Empire, which engaged the actors, kicking their performances up a couple notches, and that's why it's the high note, because of the emotional depth and consistency, not because it's "the darkest". The darkness is mostly incidental; it does contribute to the visual ambiance, which is another enthralling aspect of TESB.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Making excuses for the old man.....

    by VonThunderballs

    I refuse to buy this crap. I am a huge SW fan. I am heavily involved in the fan community. I can't bring myself to buy the blurays; at least not now. I grew up watching the movies as they originally were. They were fine the way they were. There is and will never be a need to redo them or make any additions. And with that bring on the 3D atrocities.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by ParagonComplex

    The problem people have with George Lucas isn't the simple fact he's changing his own films it's the fact he went before a Congressional hearing telling about the evils of doing exactly what he's doing now. He's as big of a hypocrite as Al Gore, and just like Al Gore, he's only doing it for the money. Don't kid yourself, yo.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    and with The Clone Wars season 3 box set getting ready to pop off

    by JackSlater4

    That's gonna be a lot of blu Star Wars on the shelf

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Interesting Web Site from Scott Ross...

    by conspiracy You people want to know the REAL GEORGE some of this guys posts (he should know) and the responses from former ILM workers. Lucas is a fucking monster.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    perfunctory? the guy was directing his films while sitting on his comfy char behind a tv monitor and drinking coffee in a cup. he didnt even stand up and go to the actors to give them directions on the stage,he did that while talking from his chair. And what his main concern when he was talking with his close associates? that he couldnt beat Titanic BO's records,that nobody could.All these are in RedLetterMedia's reviews. This is how a director is supposed to be? this is how a true artist works? By sitting in his chair and looking a monitor,while worrying that his movie wont break BO records? FUCK THIS SHIT.fuck Lucas.And fuck this retarded argument that an artist is the sole master and owner of his works and can anything he pleases with them.Fuck it,Lucas is not an artist,so that argument cant be applied either.FUCK.

  • Yes, the untouched original versions of the 'original trilogy' SHOULD absolutely have been released in a better presentation by now, instead of the crap non-anamorphic, dirt-speckled, laserdisc port that laughingly put out as 'bonus' discs... However, disregarding all that at the moment, my main beef with GL's own particular 'special edition' releases is that too many of his 'deliberate creative choices' are terrible! Considering he's been involved with the cutting edge of special effects over the years, I've nothing against the guy tinkering away on these to 'upgrade' them if he wishes. But like many others, it's the sadly half-assed effort and dubious choices that have come about that really disappoint me. On the other hand, Adywan has come up with a far better 'special edition' as far as myself and many others are concerned, and he's put years of effort and real thought into his various enhancements on STAR WARS REVISITED. From his main titles receding at the proper pace, to Chewbacca rightfully getting a medal too, his edit was a complete marvel to me. But if you prefer the official 'special editions' as they stand, then that's fine, but please don't think that Adywan messed up the coloring on the 'Hoth' scenes or anywhere the official 'special edition' transfers he's using as a starting point were ALREADY messed up from what the untouched originals looked like. Give me Adywan's particular colors over how things currently look any day of the week. And as far as 'Hoth' is concerned, considering his EMPIRE STRIKES BACK REVISITED edit isn't even completed yet, I wouldn't worry too much about whether it's too 'white' rather than 'blue' or he's tweaked that further to find a happy medium with the transfer he's unfortunately had to work with. Having seen an unreleased preview of certain things, I can promise you that many EMPIRE STRIKES BACK fans are going to shit themselves at how good the various 'Hoth' scenes are looking now. Let me at least leave you and others an example of how he's managed to give Darth's sabre a CONSISTENT look throughout now, unlike the dvd/blu-ray releases -

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Don't want to do it but my 5 year old daughter LOVES Star Wars...

    by Turd Furgeson

    Alls I can think of is my parents taking me to the theater to see ESB on my 4th birthday... Best. Day. Ever. This is why I will buy them. I look at her and my son who is now 1, and I think of them discovering the wonder of SW...

  • ...Adywan will be RESTORING the original, non-revealing dialogue between Darth and the Emperor for his upcoming edit, so all's well for anyone that wants to show the original trilogy before the prequels to new fans in the future...or indeed the alternative method of showing chapters 4, 5, then 1,2,3, then 6 (Jedi) last to keep 'em happy!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I just read the ENTIRE talkback with my morning coffee...

    by Quake II

    And from what I've gathered, most of you simply don't have the self control to stand up against these heavily altered Blu rays. Sad. Lucasfilm thanks you for your reluctant 90.00 purchase. Skywalker Sound can now build an additional wing to their facilty. I want the special features as much as anyone but I simply can't support the butchering of art. Greedo shooting first was annoying but Vader screaming Noooooo! is downright insane. Lucas is truly fucking with you kids and you're lapping it up like good little servants. Take your 90.00 and buy American Graffiti, Saving Private Ryan and Taxi Driver, then take your girl out to dinner with the money that's leftover.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    it's cool that new kids like star wars- even the new ones.


    it is sad though that they also like the new bad characters and humor though. humor never felt out of place in the original trilogy. when a character joked it was because of stress, or by that character's distinct outlook on the world around them. Han's jokes made him Han..the droids had their own personalities. no one ever said anything JUST to be funny but because that's what that person would naturalistically do. then you get the prequels and there is no likeable characters, no understandable villains ( cardboard characteristics aside) and the jokes that do get peppered in seem horribly out of place....not only that but the entire scene seems to wince at the joke. the actors surely do (except jar jar). anyway i got way off point. if kids today like the really bad humor in the prequels, that's because that's what kids any decade. but the star wars we got as kids elevated us above it....didn't it? i think so. it taught us to see humor in personalities, in relationships, in things deeper than stepping in poo-doo.

  • I was exactly like you when the first Star Wars movie premiered (us older fans still call Episode Four "Star Wars" because, y'know... it was) - completely absorbed into the phenomenon and losing my mind at every tiny morsel that I could get my hands on. 30+ years later, my father still ribs me about how much I was obsessed with Star Wars - although he does it with a smile, remembering when I'd dance around like a crazy person on every birthday and Xmas from the complete elation of new Star Wars gifts. Younger people who weren't there from the beginning simply can't comprehend what it was like, which is a shame. Every kid should experience that feeling of giddy, pure exultation that comes from something that completely blind-sides them and takes over their life. Some people have compared the "Harry Potter" series to "Star Wars" for kids today, which I can absolutely agree with to a large degree - but the main difference is the internet. Kids today can have Harry Potter at their fingertips 24 hours a day if they so wish. Back in 1977, it wasn't like that - you had to be OBSESSED to find out things about Star Wars beyond just watching the films. It was simply a different time and feel, never to be recaptured. I've been lucky enough that my career is on the fringes of the film industry and I've been able to meet many of the people involved in the Star Wars movies - including George Lucas. I've always been polite and thanked every one of them for their contributions to the saga - except George Lucas. It's not that I hold any hatred or spite for the man, it's just that I can't bring myself to THANK HIM - not after all of the shenangians he's indulged in with SW. I've always simply wanted to ask, "Why?" and get an honest, straight answer from him. I have my suspicions as to his reason, of which I think there is only one... but I'd still like to hear it from him. Not that he owes me anything, of course - it's MY choice to be involved in HIS world, because I haven't done anything in my life for him to take notice of mine. The magic and the thrill of the Star Wars universe is still there for me, it's just been dulled to a very blunt edge over time in dealing with Lucas' mania. With every single bit of new information, possible rumors, and actual new projects that have popped up over the years, I've felt that stirring in my chest again - only to be disappointed over and over again with Lucas' focused obsession of eradicating all that has come before in order to make it bigger, shinier and more grandiose. He considers all that he has done before as "good stuff for its time" but ultimately quaint and inadequate compared to the scope of his vision. Lucas is indeed a true visionary, and like many of his odd ilk, lacks a certain connectivity that could allow him to truly appreciate what his legacy is. He's so busy rushing headlong to check out the next cool technical filmmaking gadget that he has no idea of the wreckage he's leaving in his path when it comes to his fans. There's a scene in the first "Iron Man" movie when Tony Stark has just built the second arc reactor for his chestpiece, replacing the "antique" one he built in the the cave. Pepper Potts asks him what he wants to do with the old one, and Stark says "Incinerate it." Now, let's pause a bit and take that in. This is a technological breakthrough that would absolutely change the face of the world overnight... and Stark thinks, "It's old news, full of flaws and techniques that I had to settle for because I didn't have the right tools to make it perfect at the time. Trash it." This is George Lucas.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    All Lucas had to do..

    by Esch

    All Lucas had to do was release the original theatrical versions of the movies remastered on Bluray and I bet none of us would bitch about all the changes that happen in this newest iteration. All we want is the original films we grew up with as kids when they came out theatrically. You're right, it's his films, but it's MY childhood he's saying FU too by downright refusing to release the version we all want.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Don't mind the changes

    by vpiercey

    I don't mind the changes, except the "NOOO" at the end of ROTJ, but I can live with that. I actually wouldn't mind seeing some more additions to connect the two trilogies. I loved the senate stuff in the PT (but then again, I am also a politics/policy geek). I think it would be awesome to have a brief cut in ANH to the disbanding of the Senate. I also think it would be cool to have some flashback cuts to Leia's memory of her "real mother" - whether Lucas intends this to mean birth memories of Padme or a brief shot of a very young Leia with Jimmy Smits + wife. I actually like all that shit. I also think it would be cool to add the opening scene from the Phantom Menace book - where Palpatine is talking to a young Anakin in a space bar. I love the idea that Palpatine "created" Anakin, and that was tastefully revealed in ROTS. I think that opening scene for TPM would be a nice forshadow and would reduce the laugh factor when Anakin's lack of a father is revealed. Overall - I feel like these additions give us "more" star wars to love! Anyhow, that's my 10 cents (sorry its not 2 cents, but inflation... blame the Fed!)

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    The magic's gone.

    by GhostDad

    To this next generation, Star Wars isn't that big of a deal. I really wanted to show Star Wars to my nephews, I finally did... and they were "eh" on it. They know it from the cartoons, but the movies just didn't do it for them. There's other stuff out there that has captured their imaginations and they've loved, all the tweeks to Star Wars just seems like a desperate attempt to keep the series relevant, to keep it "mainstream" instead of becoming "classic cinema."

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Ewoks blinking...

    by lead_sharp

    fuck right off. If you are a big enough tard to give Lucas more money for this stench then more fool you.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    New bonus deleted scenes in the BRs have been revealed:

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Jesus...get an editor, Harry. Please.

    by scrote

    Most of your article contains little more than the ramblings of a ten-year old child... And get back to rehab, no one should sit around watching blu-rays for "eleven hours". Oh yeah, where's the DVD column? You could have written that today instead of splurging in front of your screen. Man, eleven hours *shakes head*. That said, I agree with what you said in your 'conclusion'. It's Lucas'. Let him do what he wants. I've got a bunch of the old Star Wars vhs'; I can stick them on whenever I feel like. But I won't be sat there for all three in row. Ya gotta work, exercise every now and again, you know

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    cervantes the lightsabers were fixed on the blu ray

    by JackSlater4

    Your talking out of your ass

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The Star Destroyer crashing DOESN'T look fine vader.


    It didn't even look good back in 1982. The model's fine but the way it crashes into Death Star 2 is very unrealistic. You wouldn't have a flame like that. It would be a series of miniature explosions and then one almighty explosion. The flame itself looks like what it is.....about 2 or 3 feet tall. I It looks bad and should have been redone years ago. Unfortunately instead of redoing all the bad effects...Lucas altered some that shouldn't have been altered and left others that should have been redone.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Also, ESB and ROTJ are not all HIS FILMS!

    by GhostDad

    He didn't direct either one. Kershner and Marquand may have been director's for hire, but they did the work, they made the decisions. With as much bitching as this site does when Producers take creative decisions away from directors, I'm shocked that the real issue here hasn't really been addressed: Lucas is a producer who is changing a director's work because "That's not how I would have done it." Kershner made the decision in Empire that Luke would rather jump than side with Vader, and that Luke would be content with this decision that he would silently fall. It shows that Luke is sure of what he's doing. Marquand made the decision that Vader would have an internal struggle and have to choose between his mentor and his son. He didn't feel Vader had to vocalize his struggle. Lucas likes his ideas better, so he changed it. Producers do it all the time, but he's essentially doing what many directors complain about and "taking the movie away." If Lucas should be allowed to do it, then why not Tom Rothman or any other studio head? Worse to me is that Lucas is changing the work of two directors who are no longer with us, and I've always felt that not at least putting out the originals as a "director's cut" is a huge slap in the face.

  • Go buy the Bluray and then watch it, don't just guess because someone somewhere said something. The closeups of Lukes lightsaber when he's doing the remote training show tons of black lines and clipped sides. I dont care if they fixed 1 blending moment in Jedi. That's all they did.

  • The Darth vader "nooo" could have been done in 1983. It wasnt a lack of technology. I understand the Ewok blinking thing even if it does look incredibly stupid.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Lead sharp......what exactly is wrong with blinking Ewoks?


    Surely anything that makes them look less like men in teddy bear suits is fine by me.

  • Some of the worst CG I've ever seen. Why didn't they fucking redo that? It looks absolutely terrible. So out of place. And everytime they show the land speeder C3PO's CG model does the same fucking super fast right turn to look around. I can't believe they actually replayed the same keyframes over and over again. Also, Jabba looks terrible.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Two points, for those Lucas apologists out there...

    by spud_mcspud_returns

    (1) Yes, they're Lucas' movies. But they're also OUR movies because, had millions of us not spent every penny we could get our hands on to watch it repeatedly and buy all the merchandise from it, he would not have gotten rich enough to make the sequels and prequels the way HE wanted them. WE gave him that freedom from the money we gave to the franchise. Arguably, it's a joint effort - we give him the money, he makes the movies. Give the fans more credit for that.<P> (2) All the purists (like myself) are asking for is a clean, unaltered, high-def Blu-Ray version of the movies WE fell in love with. Lucas can create a version where Kirstie Alley is a CGI Jabba the Hutt for all I fuckin' care, as long as I have my unaltered BD transfers. If he wants to trash his lgeacy, fuck him. Let him do that. But to deny the fans of the original trilogy a clean BD version of the unaltered originals is Lucas' Fuck You to all the fans that disagree with his alterations - it's as simple as that. The money he'd make releasing the unaltered originals on BD would far exceed the cost in restoring them to their original versions in hi-def - so WHY are we still arguing that he;s doing this for artistic reasons? He's not. He's doing this to say "Fuck you fanboys, you're not getting the originals on Blu-Ray." There's the thanks the fans get for making that ungrateful fucker rich and powerful in the first place.<P> Fuck you, Darth Gizzard. Fuck You... always.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    @cervantes hey,i dont criticize Adywan or his work.

    by KilliK

    The guy has done a tremendous job and he deserves a medal for that,especially if we consider that he did all the edits by himself and with his own resources. The thing is that for purists,like myself,the original movies remastered for the BR with a perfect sound and picture quality,is the only thing we desire to have in our possession. Adywan has done a wonderful job with his edits,but at the end they remain the personal edits of someone and not the original theatrical movies. I will stick to Dark Jedi's GOUT editions until someday,we might get those OTT BRs but ofc that doesnt mean that i wont download Adywan's edits as well,purely for collection reason. Anyway,thanx for your input in this matter Cervantes,your info was very enlightening.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    If I had my way......I'd make the Ewoks ALL CGI.


    I haven't seen the blu rays yet but if the blinking makes the Ewoks look better....I'm all for it (I hope they haven't just done Wicket though as they all could do with looking less like men in teddy bear suits). That said...........they'd probably be better if they were replaced with some decent cgi.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    This is how I feel....

    by Megamonki

    This was going to be a day one purchase for me despite minor sticking points like leaving out the unaltered cuts, and the excellent Empire of Dreams documentary (and Lucasfilms excuse for leaving it out saying they didn't want to "rehash" when they should have just said "buy the 2004 editions if you want it") I didn't really care if it was the special editions because I was young when they came out and the excitement of new additions appealed to me, and despite being a more jaded moviegoer now, that excitement is still in me. Hell I didn't even notice "Han Shot First" until someone pointed it out to me years later. The same could be said of the prequels which while not nearly as good as the originals, I felt were great films in their own right, and I never bought into the fan hate I got excited by the released blu ray info detailing updates and fixes to the films like major goofs, discoloration and sound But then the "nooooooo" came to light The internet blew up with fans (among them myself) hoping, "praying" it wasn't true, rationalizing it by saying it was just a troll messing with fans heads. but then the quiet, almost embarrassed confirmation came from Lucasfilm and then I felt a sting my excitement evaporated and I regulated it to hopeful Christmas present why? because they changed something fundamental about the movies that quiet moment of contemplation was the climax of the whole series. I was amazed how they were able to convey the conflict Vader was feeling with simple nods of the head and his iconic raspy breathing, the only other sound we hear is the desperate screams of his son, the hero of the series completely at the mercy of the emperor, until finally he makes his choice, and with a swell of John Williams music brings the entire series to a close with a quiet but at same time triumphed moment. even as a child that moment struck me as something that elevated Star Wars from sci fi action fest to something almost magical and it was a moment that dare I say was made even more powerful after watching the prequels. its one of many moments that sparked my true love for film and film making. and they ruined it I'll get over it eventually I'm sure, and I'm also sure when I finally do get the box set I'll spend hours delving into my favorite film series to rekindle my love. Even so that initial sting and the looming sense that something will never be the same about Star Wars will always be hanging over me.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Some fans just criticise Lucas for everything.


    I don't like the Han not shooting first or this new "nooooooo" thing Vader says.......but revamping the special effects is by and large a good thing.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by NuteG

    Completely agree with you about Lucas's directing style. Exactly what I was trying to get across when I described it as perfunctory :) He (and let's not forget his collbators) went through a lot of hardship to get the original Star Wars made. So I get it if Lucas doesn't ever want to go through that again. But the sight of him taking it perhaps a little to easily in his director's chair is aggravating. And another (!) disappointing thing about the prequel trilogy is that, as it progresses, there's less and less location work, until the final shot of the whole enterprise consists of a couple of actors green-screened onto a fake sunset.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I am gladly passing on this "version"

    by YackBacker

    I don't need to watch or own "Nooooo!" Vader. I'll keep my eye out for the inevitable newer versions which will come to market in the next few years-- hopefully with these questionable changes removed. If they don't remove these mistakes in judgment, that's fine too, I just won't be likely to buy them.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST


    by wackybantha

    .....just in case you didn't know. Go to Youtube now and see it all.....FOR FREE! I'm glad the wampa stuff was cut.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST


    by GhostDad

    He didn't change it in the 80s because it was a choice made by the director. I'm just annoyed because for all the disdain Lucas says he has for the hollywood system and how supportive he claims to be of independent film, he's doing the exact thing that people always rip on producers for, changing a director's vision.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Once again, Conspiracy has nailed it re: GL's problem

    by Longtime Lurker

    Read his words...understand your mind. :) If we are ever to the OT in its true form on Blu then it will likely have to be a fan-edit

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST


    by scrote

    I'm not a Lucas apologist and I do understand and appreciate your perspective. I know you want the originals in a pristine new format - I'm a Blade Runner nut, so I can see where you're coming from - I really do, but did you honestly think that no-neck George was going to do that with this release? No way. Maybe in a few years when he's run out of ways to milk this franchise, he'll kow-tow to the fanboy zeitgeist pressure and do it (I don't believe for one minute that the originals were destroyed in the restorative process. That's bollocks.), but not while he can squeeze your tit till it bleeds, man. I dread to think what'll happen with Indiana Jones; Maybe he's waiting for Steve to die so he can shit all over his version. Though with the way George's neck is expanding he's likely to peg it way before then. Because he is, essentially, the creator of this world, you're just gonna have to sit tight and wait. It's his baby. You might like his kid but you can't force adoption... ...if you get my drift.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by scrote

    ...BTW I won't be buying these.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST

    For over a thousand generations=

    by HapaPapa72

    How long Harry's ramblings seem to go on.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Some of the special effects in the originals are BAD.


    People keep on about wanting to see the originals as they were released in the 70s and early 80s.........but have any of you actually watched your old VHS releases lately? There's transparent snowspeeders, X wings, Tie fighters, Star Destroyers and other ships. There's fake stiff look puppets. There's matte lines everywhere. There's fake looking matte paintings. I'm not saying Lucas should have altered things like Han and Greedo but my god.......the special effects needed an overhaul.

  • That bit in ANH where the X Wing crashes onto the Death Star surface and it's just a little puff of smoke and sparks. I bet Lucas hasn't redone that either.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    And the fake polystyrene Death Star surface should be redone.


    That bit where the X Wing's flying over the Death star surface and it looks real bad with toy like laser bolts and toy like explosions. I'm sure Lucas said he didn't like those bits so they should have been a top priority.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    As a MASSIVE Star Wars fan...

    by DoubleFantasy

    ... I can honestly say I have never had a problem with any change Lucas has ever made to Star Wars. Seriously. Because all my life Star Wars has made me more happy than anything. Not the story, the acting, but the universe itself. just having the films on is enough to make me smile. It's amazing. And after 30 years of watching them I really couldn't care less what is added even the Nooooooo from ROTJ. In fact I hardly even noticed it when I watched it on blu-ray. It just wasn't a big deal. None of this is. As soon as people started getting angry for any reason about Star Wars... they lost it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by NuteG

    Lucas should first overhaul the story and characters in the prequels before worrying about further vfx tweaks to the original trilogy ;) The effects in the OT work perfectly fine for telling the story (because there actually *is* a story in those films), and (to me anyway) have a charm, rather than all this pristine, plastic-y looking CGI.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    wackybantha, those deleted scenes are all better left deleted

    by YackBacker

    There's not much in those scenes worth keeping- sure, there's the super-intense incest stuff, but other than that, all forgettable.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    i love the packaging but hate the art they chose...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    with all the existing art my macquarrie and chiang and all the movie posters why not use it - the illustrations on and in the box are ok but couldve been so much better - seems a very odd and drab choice for this monumental a release

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "my" = "by", typo

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    revenge of the sith is amazing in hi def - anakin's scar detail

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    What a load of ass-taint...

    by GeorgieBoy

    Does ESB still have that clumsy "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" line and the unnecessarily slowed down chase sequence that follows? Ugh. (How come George listens to those complaints but not the ones such as "HAN SHOT FIRST!")<br><br> I like Speilberg's stance: He's not going to ruin our memories of his movies by changing them. He's admitted changing the guns to walkie-talkees was a huge mistake but he was pressured into doing it. Thank you Steven! Please talk to your buddy George!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Wicket has been changed drastically!

    by wackybantha

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    @brashhulk - very well said!

    by TallanDagwood

    I was there too as a child -pre-internet age, when word of mouth and the occasional TV story was all we had to live on for Star Wars -and I will never call it anything else, news and information. I vividly recall seeing the movie in a more than half empty theater in Houston with my best friend and his father who we dragged into seeing it on a saturday afternoon. Star Wars blossomed into a world wide cultural event just because of the greatness of the movie and the shared experience of audiences in witnessing something so special and wanting to share it with their friends and total strangers. I can not hate George Lucas for doing what he will to his creations, he can never alter my memory of what I saw and experienced. Yes, it would be wonderful to see the unaltered versions on the best video technology available, but until then I will appreciate what we have, and onemore thing, I would Thank George Lucas if I ever had the chance to meet him. The past cannot be altered, and he contributed mightily to a wonderful one for me.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST see...

    by Buddapest

    Please, Harry, I'm begging. Show some restraint with the ellipses and the "you see" habit you've formulated. It detracts from your writing, sir.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Hey Harold

    by Kammich

    You see "Drive" yet? I do not usually subscribe to filmic hyperbole, but I'm sorry... there is no chance in hell that any movie this year tops Drive for Best Film of 2011. And if anything does, we're in for a real treat, because Drive was fucking amazing.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    quake ii NAILED IT

    by Billy_D_Williams

    his is the 9th post in this talkback, read it again. I dont give a fuck about changes, I ignore them because they're terrible. Even if they were good changes, it wouldn't matter. What matters is Lucas refuses to make the originals (and when I say originals, I mean the versions that were sitting in the Lucafilm vaults after 1983) available IN THE SAME QUALITY as his special editions, as if the originals are some kind of bastard creations that should be locked in a basement. Those versions are part of history. If Lucas didn't want the responsiblity of making them available, HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE RELEASED THEM IN THEATERS...the moment he did that, he relinquished ownership...sure, sure, sure, legally he owns them and all that, I'm not talking about govt. sanctioned ownership, I'm talking about the very nature of the theatrical experience...Lucas made those movies FOR AN AUDIENCE, otherwise he wouldn't have put them theaters. And to toss the originals away and pretend them don't exist is despicable, which is why I'm not spending another dime on anymore Lucasfilm products...I'll even be skipping the 3D re-releases. George Lucas gotta eat!


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Fuck doublefantasy

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Twice. We bitch because we deserve better for the years of support & money we've dropped into Lucas' pockets. This dude will no longer get any of my $$$

  • I totally agree that the prequels should be made to fit the O. Trilogy and not the other way around. The bits with Jar Jar clowning around should be cut out of the PM and young Anakin in the fighter yelling "yipee" or whatever he says. I also hate the C3PO backstory where young "Annie" is building him. I fucking hate that. Lucas gave too much of a crappy backstory to some of his characters and I'm also not fond of Ewan Mcgregor as Obi Wan (don't get me started on Haydn Christiansen) but some of the OT effects don't look very good now and they ALL should be brought up to standard. And don't forget......not all of the effects have been replaced by cgi but they've been cleaned up where appropriate. And there's nothing wrong with good cgi if it's used properly.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    HARRY, how

    by Fritzlorrerains

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Changing walkie talkies IS a mistake but improving effects is good.


    That thing about Spielberg replacing the guns in ET with walkie talkies was fuckin stupid but if I remember correctly the cgi ET looked better and less stiff than the original muppet. So for Spielberg to miraculously come out now against any alterations...particularly improving dated special effects is stupid and he's just trying to make himself look good with the pretentious "all alterations are bad" fanboys.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by Fritzlorrerains

    PRomise you a trip to the ranch?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Can you fucking imagine

    by Fizzay

    If dennis hopper had tampered with Easy Rider? Why is it that just because it's Lucas we apologize for it?! I mean, what if they raped more of your childhood by censoring E.T.??? Oh wait...

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    So, Harry was film fan @ 5yrs old when Star Wars came out...

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    Sorry Harry, I was born after you and I can barely remember seeing the movie. And I was 9 at the time. Let's lighten up on the waxing nostalgic.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Change IS good...but only if the changes ARE good!!

    by performingmonkey

    There's a ton of changes that could be made to the saga for the BETTER. I always thought 'oh, well George obviously doesn't want to change them SO much that they're unrecognizable' well...with the 'NOOOOOO!' he just crossed over the line into Anything-goes-ville. Now he may as well do all the fanwanky changes like adding the AOTC love theme over the Luke/Leia ROTJ scene, editing the Obi/Vader fight for faster pace, CGI'ing all Ewoks and most ship models etc. etc. The fact is, there now doesn't exist any definitive version of the movies. The prequels, being average (TPM, though visually amazing) to woeful (AOTC and ROTS) would benefit massively from a few changes and look forward to seeing any of them in years to come. The OT is beyond hope. Even ESB has to suffer the dire prosthetic makeup job on the Emperor circa-ROTS, along with the 'I have no doubt the offspring of Anakin Skywalker' etc. bullshit additional dialogue. They should put his face totally in shadow and you just see his Sith eyes. That would be creepy cool.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    tailhook, AOTC sucks

    by AzarN

    Are you mental?! AOTC is the absolute nadir of SW. It has some decent blips (Shmi's death and Anakin's murder of the Tuskens is the best part of the prequels) but everything else is fucking atrocious. You praised the editing and SFX? Clones is widely regarded to be the most poorly edited of the entire saga. The constant cross-cutting of plotlines and events prevents ANY build up of tension, suspense or narrative cohesion. The whole film is just dozens of erratic scenes that happen one after another. Plus the effects are easily the worst in any of the films. I give George a pass for this because it was the first time he shot a feature fully digitally and he was essentially pioneering digital feature cinema, but the visual quality of Clones is ass. If you really want to see a good version of AOTC, track down the Phantom Editor's revised version "Attack of the Phantom". Unbelievably, it turns AOTC into a good film.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Adywan's shit looks like N64, puuuuuuuuuuhlease

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    I'm glad you enjoyed it

    by CherryValance

    I doubt if I'll be watching any version of Star Wars for the foreseeable future. It's contaminated as far as I'm concerned. Can't wait to read some of your reviews of movies that came out this millennium. :)

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST

    tailhook, No it doesn't

    by JackSlater4

    Most decapitations to be found in a PG movie. Sandpeople getting decapitated, tight. Geonosians getting decapitated left and right, tight. Jango Fett getting decapitated in front of his young son, tight. C3PO getting decapitated, tight. Old Man Fight, tight. Wielding 2 light sabers, tight Padme in the tight white jumpsuit, tight. Gunships rolling in to a gladiator arena like choppers outta Vietnam with an army of jedi, tight. Coruscant space sluts, tight. Coruscant car chase, tight. Darth Tyrannus rolling through like a Sith Old Ben Kenobi and being played by Christopher Lee, tight. Jango Fett with double guns fighting Obi Wan popping his lightsaber in the rain, motherfucking tiz-ight. And the 6-leggers are tight, I could go on and on

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    I may be the only one, but I liked Jar Jar Binks

    by kbarber29

    To me, Jar Jar Binks represented the innocence of the galaxy before the empire destroyed it.

  • By the end of his arc he becomes a general and brings a planet together.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    My point being, JarJar is supposed to be annoying

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Sabre IS the correct spelling jackslater.


    That's how it was spelled before you Americans changed it to saber.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    That's not how lightsaber is spelled

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by TopHat

    ...Its because of George Lucas' ex-wife. She had a lot of input with STAR WARS. Then, she fucked around on him and still got a HUGE settlement. This is why Lucas doesn't want anything to do with the original trilogy. To release and give the original trilogy its due would be like giving HER credit for something. Mystery. Solved.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I get where you're coming from...

    by Mo_Rephus

    I'm the same. Star Wars did the same thing to me. I was into cowboys & indians at the time. I saw that first trailer and it blew me away. I'd never seen anything like that before. I saw the film and it changed my life...I've been a sci-fi geek ever since. I started collecting Starlog, Cinefantastique, etc. BUT... NONE of that and absolutely NONE of the self-justification you're doing changes the fact that Lucas has ENOUGH OF MY MONEY. I've given that man tons of money for toys, books, games, and movies. It is TIME we got the films we fell in love with. Not this pathetic crap that now includes not just tinkering with CG for some controversial "improvements", but now includes changes that make absolutely ZERO sense. I get the "NOOOO!!" 2.0. I don't have the big bug up my tail like many do about that. I HATED the one in ROTS, but I get why he put this one in. I don't really agree with it, it's not necessary in any way, but I get it. I'm tired of stupidity like Obi Wan's new scream (the original worked PERFECTLY...WHY for the love of God change it?) and stuff like R2 now hiding BEHIND these flat, badly animated/drawn rocks that suddenly disappear in the next shot. The ewoks blinking makes SENSE. The correction to the wampa arm makes sense. The R2 rocks DON'T. The STILL not fully corrected lightsaber colors DON'T (yes, the two shots they showed were corrected...go a few frames and/or shots later and they aren't...same old wrong color sabers...Vader with a hot pink saber in the very next shot? Please...). I am NOT giving that man any more of my money which would effectively let him know I DON'T WANT this CRAP. Yes, the deleted scenes are great, but I'm not paying $80 for them and them alone. I've seen more than half of them between YouTube and a compilation of Star Wars deleted scenes that contained the Toche Station the EXACT SAME QUALITY as the new Blu-ray set does that has been available for YEARS. I'm not paying $80 for three deleted scenes (which is all I haven't seen at this point). You're trying desperately to justify having them and paying $80 to own them...but none of it has anything to do with that. You've paid your "dues" to Lucas. If you've bought ANY of the previous umpteen versions from VHS & the old videodisc format to laserdisc & DVD, then you owe that man NOTHING. He owes it to the fans that MADE him the BILLIONAIRE he is to release the films WE WANT, remastered in HD. If it wasn't for all of us, he'd be NOBODY.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST


    by Be_a_zed


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Boo hoo GL is a meany

    by Will Rodriguez

    Suck it up fan boys. Your memories have been damaged, and your future compromised? Cry babies, when you write a script and come up with the millions of dollars to film it, then you can complain. In life you learn to take the good with the bad, move past the disappointments and enjoy what you have. I thought trekkies were obnoxious infantiles but you people take the cake. BTW, calling his kids names that are insensitive and homophobic and wishing him dead is not cool. Great job Harry. When these pendejos have their own sites they can say or write what they want.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST

    These PAGES TAKE AGES to load!


    What's up with aintitcool lately? Unless it's my computer the pages are loading real slow. Anyone else have the same problem?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST

    CG additions

    by redkamel

    I don't like any of them, because most of them are so noticeable and clean looking, done with early 90s computers...completely different look than the more practical effects which just had a few easily ignorable deficits. But maybe I am just old by my late 20s. For example, all the dewbacks look very clean for living in the desert. The new SW don't hold up well either. I was watching clips of ROTS online and was struck by how much it just looked like a video game/SpyKids, and not a movie. I know its trite...but its true.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    @killik re: Adywan edits

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    You know he also released 'purist' version for people just like yourself right? All he did in those was fix the colouring and effects already present. No additions.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    LOL ... Horrific article Harry ...


    Talk about missing the ENTIRE fucking point.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    they are good blu rays

    by Mr Gorilla

    It is kind of cool having the complete saga. Pic quality is amazing. Esp for Revenge of the Sith. I popped in the first hoping that I wouldn't hate it still. But it's still bad, for all the reasons Plinkett has said. 2 & 3 I think are much more enjoyable. 4 & 5 are masterpieces. I wish 6 was better. In modern day terms, it was a weird decision to 'age up' for Empire, then age way down again for 'Jedi'. Like the Harry Potter films, the last one should have been the toughest. Which makes me wonder whether 456123 is in fact the best order to watch them in. At least you're beginning and ending with a good one!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    @chronicallydepressedlemming re: Adywan edits

    by Admonisher

    Adywan's "purist" edition still has changes -- both Lucas SE changes, and others of his own devising (e.g. the Death Star orbiting a planet early on, and the superlaser taking shape just before it explodes). He just removed a few of the more dramatic and controversial changes he'd made, such as tracking music over the Obi-Wan/Vader fight. Harmy's "despecialized" editions are much closer to the originals, starting with a HD broadcast of the SE and (as the label indicates) undoing virtually all of the SE changes by careful use of upscaled shots and footage. Lightsabers and garbage mattes have been largely corrected, however ... and while the color timing is MUCH improved, it was modified from the SE, so it doesn't match the original versions with *absolute* precision. Nonetheless, this is far and away my preferred version. It combines the benefits of HD with almost none of the later "improvements" (and has a variety of great audio choices, to boot). As an alternative, Dark_Jedi's Original Theatrical Editions offer excellent upscaled versions of the 2004 LD-to-DVD transfers, along with a host of "purist" audio options to choose from. It's not true HD, but it looks FAR better than just zooming in on the LD master.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Harry, YOU ARE GROWN UP. It's over.

    by reflecto

    Face it.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Folks, folks...

    by Lobanhaki2

    ...There are some good reasons why Star Wars is considered a classic. The Writing is not among them. Some of the changes are annoying. I'd just as soon leave the Death Star Throneroom Emperor Chuck without the "No" Hell, you know what I'd do with the original "No" in Episode 3? Add some distortion and clipping on top of his voice to break it up, as if his rage, confusion and grief is overloading the voice circuits. But you know what? My expectations of the Star Wars films have never been sky high. This isn't supposed to be Dr. Zhivago, or Cool Hand Luke. This is playtime sort of storytelling, by somebody who as pushing the envelope of what could be done at the time, and still is. Is Lucas' judgment always right? No, he has a tin ear for dialogue in comparison to other directors, and sometimes makes iffy changes for reasons few others can understand. That said, What he has done with his work is primarily breathtaking for visual and technical reasons. What he's done is still magnificent, and he's done a lot more work to build worlds and populate them than most science fiction filmmakers. If you think that some of what he's done is dumb, by all means, take that attitude. But if you really do think it's not the best that can be done, I challenge you and others to do better, to learn the craft he knows, and one-up him. Why? Because when it comes to worldbuilding science fiction and fantasy, George Lucas has few competitors, few people willling or able to take things to such a level. This kind of filmmaking is difficult, and highly advanced, craftwise. Even if you're doing it shoe-string, you're forced to really think about how you communicate to an audience. Lucas started this off in a time where if you wanted to create a world, you had to do a lot of it by hand. I welcomed the opportunities he took to upgrade it, because some of the old effects didn't age well (and neither did the film, in cinematographic terms, for that matter) What we should aspire to is not to hate Lucas for the geeky and dorky things he sometimes does with Star Wars, but instead to be the new generation of filmmakers that follows in his tradition. Where he built on the Flash Gordon space opera of his time, and the Science Fiction of the fifties, we have our new opportunity to build on what he's done, and improve on it. Stop complaining about how bad Lucas is making Star Wars, if you care so much, and overtake him.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    @admonisher Thanks for the info

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    but I'll stick with Adywan's work as I actually like the additions he made. Many are things that I imagined being done were I a skilled fx artist, so his versions are perfect for me. I realise that might not be the case for everyone, but surely we can agree they are certainly better than the changes GL made? And in most cases, the mistakes he didn't fix with the effects? I am looking forward to his ESB edit more than I was ever excited about the saga officially coming to DVD. This blu-ray release I was completely numb to, to be honest.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Correction: The LD-to-DVD ports were 2006, not 2004...

    by Admonisher

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:22 p.m. CST

    So much more could be done with this franchise...

    by zombiehorror

    if only Lucas devoted more time to new projects instead of wasting his times defiling the old stuff! If all film makers were like Lucas we wouldn't have any new films they'd just keep tinkering with the same movie over and over again! The original trilogy is what it is, it is a product of its time! Cleaning up f/x or restoring deleted scenes is one thing but adding unnecassary scenes of nonsensical silliness is ridiculous! The original films were so much more real feeling than the prequels will ever be....How about Lucas uses his studio to bring the prequels closer to the original trilogy than to try to bring down the original trilogy to what the prequels are!??!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Retail watch: 17/9/2011

    by justmyluck

    A major retailer (which I'll leave nameless, but major enough to install one of these) had a giant 'snow walker' display on Friday holding a bazillion (I don't know the count, but supposedly it held A LOT) of the SW 9-disc Blu-ray sets. They also matched the competitive online price for street date. On Friday night closing - again, this is the street date advertised everywhere months in advance - the big display was apparently UN-DENTED by unit sales. The next day (Saturday/out shopping with kids day), that huge display was gone and the Blu-ray stock was relegated to new release shelves. Did the bazillion units on the display sell, the display was struck and carted away between Saturday morning and afternoon? Or was this to give a consumer impression that the more expensive sets weren't stale? I'll play devil's advocate and say, ''Okay, maybe a lot of people pre-ordered/purchased online,'' but, hello, wasn't that giant display supposed to draw attention and advertise the Blu-ray units, even if suddenly made bare? I can only hope that, please-oh-please, this is *a sign* (finally a consumer statement to LFL).

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST

    I miss the George Lucus that said:

    by -Halfscan-

    "American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history. People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society." </p> </p> "These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires." </p> </p> "In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." </p> </p> "Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself." </p> </p>

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST


    by Ron Mexico

    Tragically, Harry's mother passed away in a fire.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST

    *Lucas (wtb edit feture)

    by -Halfscan-

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Harry, you already had huge bitch tits in thee 2nd grade?!?

    by portia_de_rossi-s_pussy_breath


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Halfscan, you miss the point

    by JackSlater4

    These are his movies, even the ones he didn't direct, he doesn't want them fucked with when he's dead, and he's aloud to make as many drafts over the years as he wants. And as technology improves he can keep improving all 6. And after he makes his final draft, that's the one I'll want, I'm not going to be crying about how I wish I had his sub-par first draft. Pull the first draft out of the caves every once in a while and show it at the Smithsonian, I'll own the final draft.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    The transfers are actually fairly average.

    by blackmantis

    Nothing to write home about. Better than the DVD's to be sure, but the colors and the contrast on A New Hope are kind of wacky, and there are a lot of odd artifacts. If you want to see some jaw dropping transfers done right, check out the James Bond movies, from Dr. No through Live and Let Die. Pristine...The sound mixes ROCK though, best they've ever sounded.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Wow, -halfscan-, no one quoted that quote before

    by Mugato5150

    ...more than 500 times. The difference being of course that they're his movies and he can do with them whatever he wants.

  • 1977 was THEIR final draft. So keep those hopes held high for the future, director's personal revisions, and even more 'yes' persons to make it so!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST

    I don't even want to get into what was directed by others.

    by justmyluck


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    As will of Harry's posts, you can skip the first 4 paragraphs!

    by Bob Cryptonight

    That shit never changes!!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST


    by Bob Cryptonight

    That shit never changes, either! How about that "edit" feature???

  • You get onto me for a typo on spelling 'lightsabers' but spell 'allowed' as 'aloud' - man, you crack me up! But that's to be expected from someone who claims that Adywan's enhancements look like N64 graphics. I'll stick with the REVISITED edits thanks, upscaled and glorious. Oh, and enjoy whatever 'final draft' versions of the 'special editions' that George ends up leaving you with, as I've no doubt he's got plenty of dubious meddling such as inconsistently added CGI 'rocks' left in him for you to purchase.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:09 p.m. CST

    I give up.

    by gotilk

    I am are Lucas was by had we do are suck

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Ever Get Sick of Watching Movies Harry?

    by BigTuna


  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    I think its sad

    by MurderMostFowl

    That Lucas is such a prick. I'll never buy those stupid Blurays until the original non fucked with non SE versions are out. Goddamn what I wouldn't give to have a 35mm print, access to transfer equipment and a bluray burner.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    @azarn: Jackslater laid you out but good.

    by tailhook

    And he held back Yoda vs Dooku fight, tight. And yes, the editing was the best of the punch. The only issue with Attack of the Clones is that it followed a severe disappointment for fanboys which was Phantom Menace. As such it got a lot of backwash hate from it. And judging from your response azarn.. still does. The simple fact is that if you remove the baggage you've been carrying around and simply watch it for the movie it is, there is a lot to like and it works quite well. It really is what I consider Lucas at his best. There were structural issues in 1(Jar Jar) and 3(the hurried rush to seal everything up), but 2 was where he finally hit it out of the park. I know i'm the minority in that view, but that'll change as time goes on. People forget that The Empire Strikes Back wasn't exactly the popular 'its-the-best' meme creation its built into now. On release, a lot saw it as too dark in comparison to the first and the softening on it only came with time. The simple fact is, the only people who are holding to a 'George Lucas raped my childhood' are those who have yet to grow the fuck up. They're just fucking kid/teen movies, not your life, stupid. If George wants to throw them on the ground and piss all over them.. so what? Get a girlfriend, live your life. For too long, people have held on to these stupid movies as a substitute for not growing up and people just really need to let go. I did a while ago and while I still get enjoyment watching them once in a long while, thats all it is.. entertainment. I have no problem at all showing them to my kids. They're just movies and not much more than that.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I bought all the figures from the first two films as a kid

    by FrodoFraggins

    I liked ROTJ but it wasn't as special as the first two. I never understood why George decided to update the effects in the original trilogy. I saw the first special edition at the theaters but didn't bother with the other 2. TPM killed any and all remaining interest in the franchise. It was a very sad day to be honest. All I want is the original trilogy on blu Ray without any edits. If I have to buy tons of extra versions to get that, then OK. I think I'll have to wait for Lucas to die before that or film sequels will ever happen.

  • Those fanboys are the worst - you can find them at cons dressed as Stormtroopers, warlocks or elves (which is why I've never been to a con).

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    No "Drive" review Harry?

    by Tank Williams

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    EXACTLY Harry!!

    by Sathya

    I completely agree with you! I'm a Star Wars fan for life! All these other whiners need to grow up or quit calling themselves fans..cos you guys are certainly not!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    whats up with you guys anyway?

    by Sathya

    All I can see are comments about how far they've gone as a fan..dropped out after "Jedi", or after the special editions, or the prequels, or the "specialer" editions.....its like you guys can't move on with the times! :p

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Re: Poor, Misguided Harry, STAR WARS

    by ArmageddonProductions

    I'm sick to death of talking about STAR WARS, but here goes nothing:</p><p> Harry, stop defending Lucas. There was maybe a time when you were one of us -- the poor, unwashed nerd masses -- but the fact that you cited the amount of times you've been to Skywalker Ranch in the article above pretty much says it all. Your judgement and opinion are colored by the fact that you run an entertainment site and you're associated, however remotely, with Lucasfilm. Of course you're not gonna trash Lucas or his eightieth itineration of the STAR WARS movies, especially after what happened with McWeeney's permanent barring from the Ranch. You're not gonna risk that happening to you or anyone else from AICN. I get that. I understand that. But let's not pretend that you're laying it out objectively here, because I'm pretty sure you can't.</p><p> That being said, here's the bottom line on Lucas tinkering with STAR WARS: he hasn't improved anything. Ridley Scott didn't so much tinker with BLADE RUNNER as he sought to fix it, and I've never watched THE FINAL CUT and thought, "God, I miss the original!" Nothing in that film stands out as a glaring addition -- it was all done as tastefully and "under the hood". The original is still completely intact (and let's stop calling the theatrical cut with the narration "the original", because it was the complete product of studio tinkering). Lucas's original theatrical cut of STAR WARS was the original, no studio tinkering involved. If some of the FX were lousy, that was Lucas's fault, because of his piss-poor management of what became ILM. If Jabba the Hutt wasn't in it, it was because of Lucas's inabilities as a filmmaker to realize it. All he's doing with the Special Editions is retroactively scribbling all over his original negatives with CGI crayons, then, behaving like an oversized child and proclaiming "This is the only version of STAR WARS! There was never another version! Doubleplusgood!" I'd be all for (and, indeed, WAS all for, back in '97 when the Special Editions first got released in theaters) going back into these films and using ILM to FIX them, but nothing, so far as I can tell, has been fixed -- there's just more crap on the screen, and all of it looks like it was pasted there by a computer.</p><p> STAR WARS was a happy accident, not the work of some genius visionary, and the more Lucas pursues "fixing" that accident, the more apparent it becomes. The geniuses involved were Joe Johnston, Marcia Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Coppola, Irvin Kirschner, Dykstra, de Palma, Spielberg, Matthew Robbins -- none of those people are around him now. As for now? Nobody makes a worse bully than the weak kid who suddenly grows muscles. Enjoy those Blu-Rays. In five years, they'll all be superfluous in the face of another long list of changes Lucas makes to his shit.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by Sathya

    did u seriously just call Star Wars Lucas' SHIT? omg what are you going here commenting as a fan??

  • ... or get with the times. Because these *are* the times. Whats up with you anyway?

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST

    They're his movies

    by -Halfscan-

    Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself."

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Fucking shit talkback

    by -Halfscan-

    ate 2/3's the post... </p> </p> The apologist mantra "they're his movies" is hilarious, since the neck himself says otherwise in his very first sentence: "American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history." </p> </p> and he goes on to bemoan that its the "copyright holders" (what HE is) destroying this works of art. </p> </p>

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Scene in Jedi when Luke is walking the plank

    by proevad

    There is a ship flying around all over the place. When was that thing put in there? It's annoying as hell. Just noticed it, but I haven't watched Jedi in ages.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Fuck Lucas, and fuck you Harry

    by coconutgroves

    You can't justify what he's done to the movies Harry, unless you are a sell out. Oh, wait Harry, you are!

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST

    And they aren't "His Movies" - they are ours

    by coconutgroves

    Without the fans who paid for tickets and buy the merchandise, Star Wars doesn't exist. Lucas is a power hungry perfectionist who needs someone to tell him to fucking stop. "Their my movies" is pompass - he's only as good as the people who pay. But the problem is, the sheep keep paying. I for one won't be buying this, and Empire is one of my favorite movies of all time.

  • Sept. 17, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    I feel like watching JJ Abrams' "STAR TREK" tonight...

    by D.Vader

    Forgive me, AsimovLives...

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Re: sathyajk

    by ArmageddonProductions

    You'll have to show (or, better still, quote) where I called STAR WARS "shit". Is it possible you read someone else's post and ascribed it to me? The absolute worst thing I said in MY post was that "STAR WARS was a happy accident". It was. Jump up and down all you want about it, Lucas got reeeeeeeeaaal lucky on that one, and most of that luck concerned the actual talented people around him, from those who helped fix a script that made the shooting draft of THE PHANTOM MENACE look like CITIZEN KANE to the people who had the design brilliance to realize Lucas's half-baked "imagination" (lest we forget, Lucas originally envisioned Darth Vader as some dude wearing a gas mask!) to the producer who was savvy enough to carry a director who was so poorly thought of by his own crew that they'd call their own "tea breaks" in the middle of shooting or waste the FX budget dropping refrigerators on a concrete floor, to the brilliant filmmakers and editors (including Lucas's own wife, who also happened to edit a tiny arthouse film called TAXI DRIVER) who all sat around brainstorming how to fix Lucas's completely fucked footage. The only thing he got right about STAR WARS was holding on to the merchandising rights, and the only thing he retained from his experience on STAR WARS was to let the pros handle the second one, something he subsequently regretted and reverted to type on by the time he made RETURN OF THE JEDI (and it shows).

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST


    by doom master

    if you wanna make him pay THEN STOP BUYING HIS FUCKING WARES!!!!! God dammit!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST


    by DrIvoShandor

    Everyones entitled to their own opinion of course, but AotC is a piece of shit, plain and simple. It perfectly illustrates the heartbreaking decline of SW after Empire. Atrocious acting and dialogue, some of the worst cg ever seen on film. The only worthwhile part is the briefest of moments during the Anakin/Tyranus duel with the tight close-ups illuminated only by their lightsabers.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:08 a.m. CST

    By Harrys Logic

    by 900LBGorilla

    20th Century Fox can alter all their films and burn the original copies and it's OK...or just burn the films outright-heck its THEIRS. And don't give me Lucas IS Star Wars-he is not. Star Wars, like all movies were collaborative efforts- heck he didn't even DIRECT 2/3s of the Original Trilogy ...Also Lucas is not the same man he was anymore- from a talent or mentality standpoint. No- he may have the RIGHT to do what he wants, because he owns the films- that's far from saying it i in any way right or OK to destroy any decent copy of an original film- especially one that is such a landmark-its a travesty.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I mean lets go all out with the Lucas way!

    by 900LBGorilla

    Maybe Mario Puzo could come back and CG in a lot of battles in the Godfather- you know Sonny's death scene could have used about 50 more guys on each side and a 20 minute battle. Then he could have the Captain shoot at Michael Corleone fist so we can have more empathy for Micheal's fall- yeah he was going to back out, but just shot back in self defense. And lets cut out the wedding music and make it more modern...maybe some Miami style Latino flavor....with some CG salsa dancers crossing in front of the screen every 4-8 seconds. And THEN we can eliminate all but VHS prints of the originals, and only release modern copious of the ?"New and Improved Godfather...come on that would ROCK! I think all Hollywood should follow Lucas's lead and just re-invent all the classic movies- in this manner- Come on Hollywood screw the olden original versions of movies- this is ART dude and art is never done!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    It perfectly illustrates the heartbreaking decline since Empire

    by tailhook

    No baggage there... no sir. As per the 'worst cg ever seen on film' just hahaahahaha. That part alone was just a kneeslapper. One thing the cg in that film was not, was bad. The Yoda fight alone was more than worth the price of admission, and all of that was cg. In fact, I would wager that you couldn't pick out even half of what was cg and what wasn't.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Marcia Lucas

    by Polo Chavez

    Her editing and advice gave Star Wars most of its feel. Lucas owes her the best oral sex ever.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:51 a.m. CST

    ultratron / Grant Morrison

    by THX1968

    You rule ultratron. You may be a poser, but it's possible that you were actually there when it all went down. As for Grant Morrison and his comments, I love Grant Morrison, but one simply cannot trivialize something like poverty or bigotry.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:53 a.m. CST

    are these kind of comments even necessary?

    by Sathya

    "Her editing and advice gave Star Wars most of its feel. Lucas owes her the best oral sex ever.? grow up ppl.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:07 a.m. CST

    The original movies are an absolute certainty to be released

    by Carl's hat

    ...this is his master plan. Fuck these releases up so much, piss off people around the world..then release the originals all pristined up. This is a goddamn no-brainer. How fuckin' gullible is everybody? Hello?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:14 a.m. CST

    probably true he will eventually cash in...

    by Flexfill

    by releasing the versions people really want. Hey if it's a money maker, why not?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    come on star wars nerds


    you need to let it all go and be more like Harry. The size of this talkback is absurd. Aren't there some spy photos of Catwoman's cameltoe or something?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:21 a.m. CST

    I think Asimov tainted my admiration for Star Trek somehow


    he really, really did. Mission accomplished Assifuck!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:28 a.m. CST

    You stole my thoughts, you bastard!

    by madhouseman

    now I have to check my tin foil hat for holes. This is so much of what I've been thinking. Thank you Harry. Now get out of my fucking brain.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Star Trek (2009)

    by tailhook

    A perfectly fine movie hindered by asstards like AsimovLives that think that movies should be some sort of lifechanging experience. Its a bar nothing can live up to because to be a lifechanging experience you need to have experienced little in this life(i.e. when you were a kid and things were just completely out of your realm of what could be done). We're now older and wiser and have seen everything under the stars. Can we still be shocked? Sure. But it won't be any type of lifechanging experience, just a pleasurable one. Cause i guarantee you something, there are plenty of people who were little kids when the prequels came out that look back fondly at having their mind blown by them. They didn't care that their dads thought that shit was corny in comparison to some archaic films that came out 20-25 years before. Cause guess what... when the original movies came out, there were just as many older folks that thought they were nice movies for the kids, but recognized they weren't a 'lifechanging' experience either. People grow up.. and a lot of the people griping over something as stupid as a change in a movie constitute those who simply refuse to let their childhood go.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 3:15 a.m. CST

    =A perfectly fine movie=

    by KilliK


  • Sept. 18, 2011, 4:07 a.m. CST


    by Thall_Joben

    Ungrateful whiney little boys. GL worked is ass off on these movies and all you can be bothered to do is bitch. You are truly pathetic. Create something better then, go on, do it. You can't can you? Deep down inside you know it - all you're capable of is sitting at your computer whining. Stop throwing shit at the man and go do something constructive instead. Dickheads.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 4:47 a.m. CST

    exactly thall_joben!

    by Sathya

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 5:07 a.m. CST


    by tazzzer

    Harry whilst Star Wars has never meant as much to me as it does to you and your generation I do get why its so important to you and them. And I feel that your piece here explored that nicley. I can relate to it in that for me and i think for many of my generation we might attatch some similar feelings to Jurassic Park hence the reason why I will definetly be going to see that on its welcome rerelease here in the UK in a week or so's time. Having said this my problem with Star Wars is that only 1 of them was ever worthy of being called amazing - Empire. The rest go from good - 3, OK 2&4 and god awful 1&6. Sad way to begin and end a trilogy especially since the middle of it was amazing. Ah well.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    There comes a point...

    by Caerdwyn

    ... when art no longer belongs to the artist, it belongs to those who appreciate it. As someone stated earlier, Lucas is a cinema vandal. Yes, he happens to be tinkering with his own art... but honestly, considering what Star Wars was, and what it has become, it should be sacrosanct. You do not deface the original Mona Lisa by making her smile more obvious. You do not recolor a Picasso, just as you do not add CGI to Ben Hur or Citizen Kane. Harry, for you to be "OK" with this shows a lack of principles when you, as someone close to the industry, should be standing up for the preservation of cinema.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Just watched STAR WARS (or A NEW HOPE as it's now called) yesterday on Blu. Saw lots of detail in the film that hadn't stood out before and that's a lovely testament to the costumers and set builders back in '77. Also the new changes to Ben Kenobi's wail to scare away the sand people and the rock wall which makes R2 look better hidden, were absolutely fine. I had no problem with either and actually the close up shots of R2's dome with the rock obscuring half of it actually is an improvement. You do actually get the feel that he's 'spying' on the sandpeople as they loot the speeder.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Re: Criticism

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Really? We're not allowed to criticize someone unless we have done or can do it better than they did? So ... by that logic, every movie reviewer, political pundit, op ed columnist, comedian, satirist or dissenter of any kind should be out of a job? What kind of warped reality is that? I could see not bashing George Lucas if he'd made these films in his bedroom and only his parents and WoW buddies had ever seen them, but he's putting these out in public and making an income from their audience. That's what happens. People dig what he does, people don't dig what he does. Moreover, the truth of the matter is, George Lucas's "achievement" was more of a case of extreme half-assed luck than the work of some cinematic genius, so I guess all I have to do to match it is to start kissing large quantities of Francis Ford Coppola's ass, write a script that reads like a ten-year-old spent a sugar-filled afternoon reading old sci-fi pulp novels and watching HIDDEN FORTRESS and direct it with the skill of a soft-voiced eighth grade science teacher and I'll be all set.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:25 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    tazzer, I must have misread your post you're saying that Ep 3 is better than Ep 4?!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:57 a.m. CST

    I only hope Lucas can buy out the Chaplin estate

    by AudaAbuTayi

    Because it would be so cool to have a colorized version of City Lights, with voices thrown in. I never got the final scene or what was said. That said, like Harry, City Lights actually taught me how to appreciate a rose when I was eight months old, lying in my backyard over in Anchorage, Alaska; blissfully listening to the moose cry from afar as they were being slaughtered by grizzlies playing banjoes... Such a cool memory... Also, Lucas could clean up the effects of the Gold Rush (come on: the log cabin looks like a miniature), add some comic relief with a couple of CGI characters and get John Williams to write some new music. Now those would truly be special editions of corny, ancient films which hold no interest for kids as they are... Then he could move to Lang, Murnau and all those old, slow-ass Leone and Hitchcock films which are in great need of makeovers. Film is essentially a disposable, improvable form of entertainment. Let's go play some Mass Effect 6, I hear it's in 4K, the sound effects can rock your 9,2 system off the ground and it's got great product placements. Only $58,99 at your local retailer. Consume and obey. Forever. Or just until you die if you can't afford eternity.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST

    The thing with George is taste..

    by Avon

    it's just that he has none. Any taste that he did have died somewhere in the early eighties. Some of his ideas need to be reigned in big time, but he pays the cheques and I think his team unquestionably do whatever the fuck he wants. And why not?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:07 a.m. CST

    i really dont think people understand something....

    by emeraldboy

    when George Lucas came into the movie business the old system was dying. Lucas family background was a business one and his dad owned a chain of office supply stores in california. the old way of looking at the movies never interested george lucas. he has little interest in actors, acting and dialog. writing to him is secondary to how the movies look and sound. thx 1138 has no plot per se, lucas used thx 1138 to setup a revolution in cinema. Now must cinemas in the us have thx sound. Without lucas there would be no ILM. Lucas had the studio on his back and were threatening to take the film away from. Lucas and his wife made that movie but it ended up costing them their marriage. Lucas froze his wife out completely as we know and she ended up getting a sole credit as editor. Lucas's biggest mistake was the time he wasted fighting Marin County to build skywalker. Ranch. People are talking about star wars as art, they are films and lucas is working in the film business were money is king. Lucas has turned into his dad. and his father was an old style american republican. who believed in the capitalist system.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    I hope somebody slits Georges throat

    by Victor

    I know a lot of people want to.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST

    ALIENS theatrical cut is BETTER than the special edition

    by mooli_mooli

    The original cut is superior, with better pacing and better dramatic beats. The extras work ok as deleted scenes, but the whole flows much better without the extra material. ESPECIALLY seeing the bloody colonists finding the ship. That one scene totally destroys the nerve-shredding suspense of not having the faintest clue what was lying in wait. Even the sentries, much as I like them, destroy the pacing and payoff during that middle section when everyone's holed up in ops + medlab.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Why do people think ROTS is 'good' or even passable??

    by performingmonkey

    Seriously, the Palpatine fight/Anakin change scene is the most embarrassing moment of the entire saga! ' YOU will die!!' Jesus Christ how bad was that?? Then you've got every single line Hayden delivers...utter shit. The Yoda/Sidious fight is ridiculous. Everything on Kashyyk wasted. Some fucking awful CGI. Then, to top it all off, the most anticipated duel of all-time, between Obi-Wan and Anakin, an epic, galaxy-rocking conflict between two brothers in arms, amounts to Hayden whining like a little bitch and 'I have the higher ground!' amongst CGI lava overload!! Okay, at least it's better than AOTC, but TPM eclipses it, and that's saying something.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:37 a.m. CST

    =ALIENS theatrical cut is BETTER than the special edition=

    by KilliK

    FUCK NO.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Killik - FUCK YES

    by mooli_mooli

    This could go on... But point by point: - Ripley finds out about her daughter - this is good info, introduced at the wrong time. The emotional switch from outright grief to bored and aggravated during the inquest is immediate in audience-time and implausibly short in film time (a couple of hours). The switch is jarring and unnecessary, laying on with a trowel what could have been handled better with less info at a different time. Works better without this scene. - The extra bit of info at the end of the inquest destroys what was a really good cut (Ripley shouting, to silent, indifferent room, to "case closed" on the screen). It also gives info that isn't strictly necessary in terms of character motivation. - The scene with the colonists. Horrible, just horrible. Suspense and surprise ruined. A total mistake as I already said. - Hudson's "badasses" monologue - awful dialogue, jarringly handled, and introduces a bunch of weapons we never see. Pointless. - The sentries - I touched on above. I like them, but it takes away the pacing and mystery of the middle section. In the original they've holed up, and you've *just* forgotten about the aliens (they're too busy arguing among themselves) when the power cuts and the motion sensor triggers. You're also expecting a direct assault on the barriers (muffled thumping etc) - but in the SE we've *seen* the aliens do a direct assault twice. They've never gone away so there's less surprise, and we now *know* they won't do a direct assault. I love both. But the original has better pacing and doesn't give away its secrets too soon.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Adywan's Star Wars...

    by darthwaz1

    fucking awesome, watch that instead!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:11 a.m. CST

    The tinkering is incompetent

    by fookinmonkeyzod

    Read my blog on the topic

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Oddly Moving

    by Dave

    Harry, I don't share your appreciation/obsession with SW, but this article of yours sums up beautifully why you love it, and that's something I greatly appreciate. This was a terrific piece on the impact that art can have on people. In your case, it's SW, but the object isn't the point - it's the love of the art that I share that made me appreciate your writing this. If this is indicative of where you're headed as a film critic, I applaud you. Keep up the good work.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Thank you.

    by Snow

    who cares

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Originals look good the newer ones look amazing.

    by Smashing

    I thought Star Wars would look stunning but The Wrath f Khan seemed a better Blu-ray to me, episode 1 however was stunning and for the first time I'v watched these films as Annakins story and not hated them, weird.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Thank you.

    by Snow

    Well that last one didn't come out right. Plenty care. Thank you for the look into a real fan's mind. My husband pointed this out, and after reading it, I can see why he is not "outraged"with the masses. I can also have a greater appreciation for his obsession/genuine affection for what I have always simply liked a lot. Well done,Sir.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Watched all deleted scenes (thanks YouTube users)

    by YackBacker

    The prequel "scenes" are 95% animatics. The cut footage was truly poor material (script and acting that made the theatrical versions look professional in comparison). I can see now why these prequels were so uneven/poor: George can't run a set. The acting in these prequels is mostly shit, with a handful of exceptions. Actually, Episode I is the best of the prequels in this department, which makes it one of the less terrible films among the three. Only further cutting/editing could improve these movies. They're videogame cut scenes strung together with a lot of lifeless performances. Now, the OT deleted scenes were also mostly poor, but at least there was some archival curiosity to that material. Still, if this was the big draw for people to buy the Blu-Ray set, I cannot fathom dropping $80 for such a disappointing collection.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Just another cash grab until the 3D version comes out.

    by Stan Gable

    I am losing count of how many versions they have put out since the original trilogy VHS tapes.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Star Wars was special to me too... when I was a kid

    by grendel69

    But Lucas has done everything in his power to destroy these films. Thats not a exaggeration either. When I get the bug, Ill watch the originals on the DVDs extras... but other than that... I really just dont care anymore.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:28 a.m. CST


    by proevad

    Only saw it once, but apart from the Vader "no" scream at the end, I don't think I rolled my eyes in disgust. I guess that counts as a victory. Thought it was alright--by that time the damage had been done though--so maybe I was just glad the whole shitty trilogy was finished.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I just can't.

    by Jonathan Hicks

    I just can't give a shit anymore. I'm all Star Wars'd out. Nothing is going to change, save the changed originals being given the hi-def treatment and released, but until that happens I just can't care. No matter what's been said, what's been criticised and how loud the upset swarms of fans have been, nothing has changed. If anything, it's been made worse. So, until I see the original, untouched widescreen trilogy on disc and on the shelves - even the versions that came out early 1990s 'as they were meant to be seen' - I just can't bring myself to be pissed off. It's fucking exhausting.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Thank God Star Wars has torpedoed so spectacularly

    by PhilConnors

    Thank God the prequels failed so spectacularly, and he continues to issue horrible updates to the original trilogy. Lucas has given me many more hours of entertainment than if he had produced solid, if uninspiring prequels, and cleaned up, unaltered originals on bluray.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    I love how Attack of the Clones is never mentioned on here

    by proevad

    --not even by the defenders of the trilogy. Movie was Ed Wood bad. Just out of curiosity, what did Lucas add to that one? Actors?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I'd like to mix & match Adywan's w/Lucas'

    by darthwaz1

    For example, I love the Jabba scene in ANH which Adywan omitted. But I also love the Adywan sabers and re-scores, and added scenes however. I'd like to create my own mash-up.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    by Saknussem

    This article explains everything.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    The commercial for Force Unleashed II

    by menacingphantom

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Was better than anything in the prequels. Fact.

    by menacingphantom

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Of course 1970s commercials for toilet paper are too.

    by menacingphantom

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    @menacingphantom my first thought when i saw it.

    by KilliK

  • Anyway, Peter Jackson has been kicking George Lucas's ass in the past decade. The Lord of the Rings trilogy totally pwned the Prequel Trilogy. It was everything the prequel trilogy wasn't. It had everything the prequel trilogy hadn't. It had a CGI character (Gollum) that was a real character, not some annoying-as-fuck comic relief character (you know who). Also, Weta Digital is now one of the best and most respected visual effects companies in the world.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    The last time I contributed to LucasCorp was when...

    by doom master

    I paid to see Indy 4... That was 4 years ago about? Never again. Fuck you George Lucas, and your big anal sphincter. You really know how to shit on yourself. You know how to have an ice cream party.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the article on Marcia

    by proevad

    Doesn't sound like she was THAT important at all to be honest--but I did learn that Coppola was a scumbag--so that was cool. Of course scumbag is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe his wife didn't give a shit if he fucked around on her--it was the 70's after all.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Lots of anger fear and agression in here.

    by Arteska

    I don't even think people know what they are mad about anymore. It's like a mob.

  • He's not married to TLOTR like Lucas is to Star Wars. Remember that he didn't even want to direct The Hobbit. Just another movie to him. He's a filmmaker, not whatever Lucas is now.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Good One Harry

    by Justicer7

    This'll make sure you get invited back to the Skywalker Ranch for years to come!

  • That Lucas is removing from the existence and the memory the OTT,in the same way that he 'erased' from existence and memory his ex-wife Marcia. That's the root of the whole goddamn problem,his wife and their divorce.nothing else. It's not that he is an egoistical narcissist who wants to force to the general consensus that he he is the sole genius and master creator of the OTT.It's not also about being a greedy,capitalistic businessman,who exploits the love of the fans and use the tinkering of the films as a way to get their money. No,it is nothing from the above.The real reason behind all this is his wife.His wife who was one of the most important contributors to the success of SW and ESB.His wife who was the only one who got an oscar for the editing of SW,but Lucas got nothing.His wife who,despite their enormous wealth,their long marriage and their adopted child,eventually 'betrayed' him with another man and left him alone while taking with her half of his fortune. I dont consider Lucas an evil Lucas.Has he lost his mind? yes. But deep down inside him,there is a weak man who lost his eternal love and that hurt him so much,that it forced him to start believing that the reason for losing her was his achievements,his movies,his fans,his company and most importantly his self. But instead of showing acceptance and tolerance,instead of taking as a man his defeat and endure his pain,what ultimately did was what weak men with unlimited power usually do: He tried and still tries to send into oblivion everything that reminds him of his failure and his lose: his ex-wife,the OTT movies,the original fans who grew up with the movies and made Lucas the rich and powerful man that he is,his old friends and associates who indirectly and unintentionally were filling the gap of voice of reason after Marcia left,everything that reminded of his wife and his failure. In the end,it is a tragedy really.Lucas doesnt deserve our hate,only our compassion.Well that's my take on how that man changed and behaves like an asshole for years now.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Harry do you check your grammar anymore?

    by sunwukong86

    If you dont you should at least hire someone to do it for you.

  • but mainly about egoism and inferiority complex.that's my understatement from the article.

  • I guess George didn't get over it and didn't move on. When Steven Spielberg and Amy Irving divorced, she got $100 million. But Spielberg moved on and now he's been happily married to Kate Capshaw for nearly 20 years. Which makes me wonder, does George Lucas even have a romantic life? Has he dated other women over the past thirty years, after he got divorced? It must be lonely, living all alone in the Skywalker Ranch, with only a bunch of yes-men to keep you company. Oh, well.

  • after his divorce. Lucas' only anchor was Star Wars. Really sad if you think about it.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    See...Now You all Understand what I've been saying for years!

    by conspiracy

    George Hates Star Wars because it destroyed his marriage with Marcia, possibly the first girl George ever fucked. He blames SW for the failures in his life...the marriage, the lack of critical adoration, the fact that as it progressed it laid bare his limits as a film maker and as an artist; especially Empire which he had basically nothing to do with other than provide a basic story. George actually reached his artistic peak with American Graffiti, mainly because that "Vision" was something he actually lived in some small way growing up in the 50's. He couldn't screw it was him. George fancies himself a visionary artist...and auteur, an experimental film maker...but other that having really good ideas...he simply isn't skilled as a writer nor really as a director. Sure Star Wars was his idea...but it required others to pull it off...especially Marcia and Gary Kurtz...who together could put a cork in Georges Ego bottle and enforced limits on him. Without those two and many many others that were behind the scenes, we wouldn't even be talking about all of this...because Star Wars as we know it would not have existed...George knows this well, and it gnaws at his self absorbed, detached black heart like a cancer.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    And his wife isnt even the true reason.That's the consequence.

    by KilliK

    The true reason is his father.Just read the above article about Lucas's background and his relationship with his father.It's always the father..

  • Sept. 18, 2011, noon CST

    Lucas dated a rockstar

    by 510XH01573R

    probably still with her too. But i dont know why he hates getting married, oh wait yes i know, filthy bitches cant be trusted they will take half his empire because this country aint fair. He built it all and some scum bitch takes it and gives it to another man. fuck it.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    the guy who invented faceboook gets a movie but

    by 510XH01573R

    lucas doesnt? i want a lucas bio movie, or am i in the minority? btw, facebook is dieing now...ooch.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    And I don't think George has ever been "Right" mentally...

    by conspiracy

    read Scott Ross blog....or dig around on the net a bit for former ILM folks postings...what is out theredoes not paint a pretty picture. A guy who doesn't even recognize the General Manager for his own Visual Effect Division, and whom makes interns turn away and not make eye contact when they happen to run into him in the hallway certainly isn't fucking normal. Well...maybe for Hollywood...

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    A Lucas Bio would be fascinating!

    by conspiracy

    But whomever wrote it would be committing professional suicide. George is nuts, he may not have any real friends other than perhaps Spielberg...but the man still has lots and lots of power and endless $$$$.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST

    At this point

    by azmodeous

    I'm pretty much numb to the changes made to Star Wars. Sure, I'd much rather watch the original theatrical cut of the movies like I grew up watching, but I cant keep complaining about something that is not my decision to make. There's at least the dvds of the theatrical versions, which i have a feeling that Lucas didn't even want to do then, but did anyways to at least try and reach out to fans. I actually still have a lot of respect for Lucas, as mind numbing as some of the changes he has made to the movies may be, if it wasn't for him, most movie theaters would be horribly run down places with poor screens and shoddy at best sound. I don't think enough people give him enough credit for innovating the theatrical experience and making leaps and bounds in the technology of it. It's too easy to bitch and complain about Star Wars and the changes made to them now, but I have enough things to worry about in life right now without having to fight an argument thats over 15 years old now and is not in my hands to fix. I just want to enjoy the movies in high definition changed or not!

  • about STAR WARS' impact on his autobiography, than review DRIVE. Or RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. C'mon, Harold Throckmorton Knowles!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Re: ILM/THX

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Please don't give Lucas the credit for either one of those, either -- those were originally the ideas of the man Lucas once worshipped and now pretty much owns outright, Francis Ford Coppola. Unfortunately, Coppola has talent, but Lucas has the money. He even ripped off Coppola's beard (due to a remark Coppola once made about "growing a beard gets you respect").

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    =i want a lucas bio movie, or am i in the minority?=

    by KilliK

    no you are not.A Lucas movie must be made,and i am not saying this from a fan's view but because there is a lot of interesting stuff for exploration in the man's life both personal and professional. Mr Fincher if you are reading this,make a Lucas bio movie.You will get your beloved oscar that you carve so much.Unless ofc Lucas boycotts the making of the film and HW itself.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    James Franco would have to play him I guess

    by proevad

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Remakes within 30 years max???

    by AnarchyWorldsEnd

    I'm guessing all this material gets revisited not long after GL kicks the bucket :-) Some of his heirs will whore it out for sure!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    to add to my comments about lucas and his father...

    by emeraldboy

    Lucas dad wanted his son george to join the military. Lucas senior pushed his son very hard to do so. As it was all part of the republican upbringing of which lucas's rebelled against. and George also wrapped his car round a tree and nearly died and as a result of that became an insulin dependent diabetic. Lucas to get his father off his back, agree to sign up and go off to vietnam. His father had contacts in the army. lucas signed to ucla. his father was opposed to this vehemently. George Got back to the house really late and what had been brewing for months erupted. When lucas senior demanded to know where the hell his son had been, lucas senior was in a way keeping tabs on his son. lucas senior said you told me you were going to sign up and conscript and you didnt and it was that point, lucas was thrown out of the house and his father effectively cut him off. Off lucas went to film school in UCLA and the rest history. Iriving Kershner was lucas teacher in film school and from day one he noticed that lucas was different, Kirshner said lucas was always experimenting with sound. and that lucas's short films had no stories in them. He never bothered attending screenwriting or acting class.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Darth Vader and Luke = Lucas's father and Lucas himself.

    by KilliK


  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    @emeraldboy How do you know all this stuff about Lucas?

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I read a biography of him

    by emeraldboy

    and also there was an extensive piece about him in the observer news paper regarding skywalker ranch and he might have featured in easy riders raging bulls and I have seen that sublime documentary Empire of Dreams. where it mentioned how he fell out with the WGA.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    so much the public doesnt know about the man who

    by 510XH01573R

    gave us star wars. He is an interesting figure and no doubt the way he runs things are unusual, him not "recognising" his employees, is typical of him. He hardly talked to the actors in american graffiti, I'm not sure if its a social awkwardness thing or hes just doesnt like people who work for him. The reason he likes CGI so much is simply because it gives him more control. During the making of the first star wars, when production was split between london and LA, he made the space scenes redone over again under closer supervision. Hes not easily satisfied with the collaborative work by others, a blessing and a curse (right now a curse).

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    @emerald do you remember the title of the biography?

    by KilliK

    i am interested in reading it.

  • I've got a bad feeling about that.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    uk film crews were very unionised

    by emeraldboy

    and did not take kindly to working american film companies especially regarding hours. lucas did not like working with them and kilik there is a documentary made by scorcese. which is possibly the best documentary ever made about film. Lucas appears in that and talks about computers will make film making very easy in the future.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I want a prequel trilogy of the prequel trilogy.

    by KilliK

    Who was Anakin's father? that burning question needs an answer,right NOW.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Spoiler Alert?! Really?!

    by Bobba Phat

    My only other comment about this post is have we devolved so much as fans that we need to put up spoiler warnings for decades old movies that have been WELL documented over the years?!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    @emerald thanx,i will try and find it.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    I want a PROPER sequel trilogy to the prequels

    by A G

    None of this "Hand Solo" shit and Obi Wan as a fucking 100 year old geezer, I wanna see Captain Panaka and an upgraded General Grievous, maybe even the return of Darth Maul (or a clone?). Also ditch the fucking crazy ass puppets and put real proper CGI in there, what the hell were they thinking with that barking dog in a suit thing? Cripes, give me an english speaking realistic looking character like Jar Jar any day, at least he had a decent story on the political side. Speaking of which, what the fuck happened to the politics?! This is Star Wars for god's sake!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    And as we accept, Lucas grins.

    by Jodo_Kast

    Spielberg, though, understands. It's about the audience. Don't treat the material as bastard children and money trees. Okay, maybe not so much the last part. - A man in the Caribbean

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    hi kilik...

    by emeraldboy

    the biography i read was called George Lucas. a biography by JOhn Baxter. dont know if it is still in print. His book on kubrick is superb. He has written books on deniro and woody allen.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    @emeraldboy thanx a lot for the info.i will check them out.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    thanks george love the burays alot.

    by skiff

    Digital yoda in tpm blew me away I can't believe how far cg has come.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Too bad Georgie boy went to USC

    by Mattyboy122

    NOT UCLA, emeraldboy.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Ian nathan's Alien the vault....

    by emeraldboy

    is astounding. I had it in my hands last week. Sweet jesus. What a piece of Work. nathan has really pulled out all stops. Scott fought fox over Giger, fox called him a sick artist and scott fought them over the space jockey which cost 500,000 dollars and was 70ft tall.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    I didnt finish that book on woody allen

    by emeraldboy

    but the more i read the more dislikable allen became.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Best extras, so far

    by _Lizarkeo

    The 501st Legion at the Rose Parade doc was the best, awesome coverage of actual fans of the movies, they got my respect and admiration for life. And the Boba Fett's first appearance cartoon, great script and art. And watching how many times the great Joe Johnston was being mentioned from everyone. And seeing Bill Murray singing (pretty well) the Star Wars tune on SNL. And John Williams saying that his favorite SW track is the Imperial March (frack yeah). And the best deleted scene from the Original Trilogy: Han Solo with a babe on the Cantina! Bad Ass with a Babe! I still have to watch the movies themselves but the HD transfer looks TOTALLY RAD. I never noticed, for example, the asteroid belt on the horizon, behind the ESB action scenes. Awesome, awesome gift for the true fans so far.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    @proevad : Attack of the Clones

    by tailhook

    Lol @ your ironic post. Try reading those above yours before you claim nobody mentioned Attack of the Clones. Its still the best of the 6 and flat out destroys A New Hope in pretty much every technical and creative aspect. Seriously, I visibly cringed as I was watching A New Hope. Man, is that shit dated. The effects are about 50% horrible, 50% still serviceable... and thats WITH the updates for the Special Edition having been done. I really never minded Mark Hamill's acting before, but man. He makes Jake Lloyd look good. And the makeup job on Carrie Fisher was pretty horrible originally... but Blu-ray did no favors. Permanant blush 4tl. I did like the Tatooine scenes at the start though where you really got to see a good look of an amount of detail that CGI simply cannot capture yet when it comes to landscape and rocks. Looked absolutely awesome in Blu-ray. Either way, just taking Episode IV as an example.. anyone who finds it to somehow be a better movie than II is just smoking some serious crack and simply reveling in distorted childhood memories. Watch it for what it is, not what you think it was. Thats the main gripe with what George did for most people. You aren't actually watching them, just reliving that previous experience, and the changes prevent that and force you to actually rewatch them.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Well shit, how can Harry's childhood be raped when it's not even over yet?

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Grow the fuck up Ginger, there's a whole world out there to enjoy that doesn't revolve around this shit.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    You're part of the problem. You're the reason why most of the films that come out of Hollywood suck. Can't believe you just said AOTC is a better film because it has better special fx. That takes a special kind of retardation--eating paint chips while being beat in the head with a pipe would do it I guess. Sorry about your childhood.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    woody allen

    by 510XH01573R

    what did you read about him that made you hate him?

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST

    tailhook? AOTC? This might sound a bit harsh...

    by p0llk4t

    You're a fucking idiot! AOTC is total shit, along with the other prequels. Hopefully you're just trolling. Then I can laugh at your stupid AOTC take. If you're serious, go choke on Yoda's little CGI cock moron!

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Harry Knowles: Writer Extraordinaire

    by alex hayden

    I found reading this nearly impossible to comprehend. Even more so than most of Harry's ramblings. I'll give him some credit where credit is due for starting this thing, but he's by far the worst writer on his own site. Fuck. He's been doing this long enough, I'm sure he has enough money to take an online writing class by now. Creative writing, journalism, whatever. Anything would help. Yoko, stop buying shit from Walmart and pay for Harry to get some lessons on writing his thoughts in a cohesive form for others to read! Fuck it. It probably wouldn't make his opinions any less retarded or apologetic.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Phantom Menace was the best of the PT

    by 510XH01573R

    why? well even though it had a really bad protagonist, it was a well paced complete story, that actually felt like the original star wars. Yes the trade taxation thing sucked, but Lucas was drawing from ancient roman stuff and believe it or not, at least it was believable.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    The 40 Year Old Abused Toddler

    by SunsetLament

    I hope that when someone eventually makes a documentary on Harry Knowles, they title it "The 40 Year Old Abused Toddler". Because that's exactly the type of relationship and mentality Knowles has had with George Lucas. Lucas beats him and treats him like dirt (as he does all original "fanboys") and Harry takes it, laps it up, and begs for more. It's sad. I ditched my abusive relationship with Lucas after The Phantom Menace and I haven't regretted it once. But then again, I don't have an addiction to getting kicked in the balls that I need to feed.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    he gave us star wars

    by 510XH01573R

    we owe him. without him we would just talk about dune and trek.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    you can always depend on an asian to take care of you

    by 510XH01573R

    asian women are a different breed entirly compared to what we are used to.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Not the director of record

    by Nem_Wan

    Lucas and Berman have repeatedly compared Lucasfilm to a television company to justify Lucas having final cut on everything. Directors who work on a TV series know the producers, and even the editors who work on the show every week, will override anything that week's director for hire might do that's inconsistent with the series. The director's job is to get it in the can, then it's other peoples' jobs to get it on the screen. That's NOT how it usually works in film but that's how it works at Lucasfilm. It's not the only rule Lucas broke. Remember the DGA fined Lucas $250,000 for not having opening credits on The Empire Strikes Back, which he paid before quitting the union. And now having the main credits at the end is perfectly normal. I **do** want to have fully restored theatrical cuts of the original trilogy, but I don't mind Lucas treating his films like software. If he could he'd have everybody's copies of the movies auto-update over the Internet.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    AOTC is the best film" = "Hi, I'm an LFL plant!

    by Chief Joseph

    Seriously guys, you're not fooling anyone.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    attack of the clones is awesome, my personal rank is 3, 2, 5, 6, 1, 4

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    so blow me

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:33 p.m. CST

    I would not mind PT going back to one of his movies

    by chien_sale

    Re-Doing the dinosaur stampede properly in King Kong

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    I mean PJ, not PT

    by chien_sale

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by MooseMalloy

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Lightsabers work underwater

    by MooseMalloy

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by ass clown


  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:37 p.m. CST


    by vicmackey1268

    I only put 6 ahead of 3 for respect...really it was a weak movie with glimmers of hope when Luke and Vader squared off...the Ewoks are almost as annoying as any other character in the universe, and the blinking will haunt my dreams... As an adult I can't stand the new trilogy but as a kid I remembered being like HOLY CRAP A 20 MINUTE LIGHTSABER FIGHT!!?!?!?!?! And for that reason only, 3 may edge out 6.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST


    by vicmackey1268

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Well, shit.

    by HonestAbe

    I had no intention of buying this set until I read this review. You're welcome, and George Lucas.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST

    @proevad: Hooked on Search works for me

    by tailhook

    Search above your name and not just the message you are responding to. I go in depth as to why 2 owns. As per 4, there is no debate on that one. That film has extremely poor production quality(which granted the F/X were state of the art at the time). Mark Hamill in that film was worse than Jake Lloyd in 1. At least Jake Lloyd shutup for the most part and let the big kids speak. Everytime Mark Hamill said something in the rewatch of 1, I wanted to strangle him. And the makeup for A New Hope, especially Carrie Fisher was atrocious, especially in Blu-Ray. All of the acting felt like there was no parent in the room and the kids went wild trying to compensate. Contrast this with TESB just 3 years later and the difference is literally night and day. The cinematography is an evolutionary leap over 4, the use of lighting, color, and movement(including in the 3rd dimension) just incredible. The actors are actually acting and not just playing to the cheap seats. Either way, I understand you have baggage when it comes to the prequels... a lot of people do. But I kid you not when I tell you 2 was easily the best of the prequels and was close to if not passed 5. 5 has some problems in story in that its a bit disjointed from the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing. Specifically Obi-Wan talking about how Yoda trained him and it took Yoda to correct him about there being another.. when he was there at the birth of the twins and hid them. It would have made more sense for Yoda to have said that with Obi-Wan saying 'no, there is another'. Whereas George got 4 lined up nicely with 3, um.. there was no saving the oops bits in 5 I guess.

  • Sept. 18, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    BUT HARRY!!!

    by VermithraxPejorative

    Don't you think it's extremely self serving and selfish to change these movies without the approval of its audience? You say George did this for himself, not the fans, but all he is doing is robbing the fans of the films we love. I wouldn't care too much if the films were just "different", but they are much much worse than the originals. I too, fell in love with film because of Star Wars which led me to the path I'm on now, and while I don't "hate" Lucas, I certainly hold him in contempt. I don't care who they are, if they ruin something I love, whether it be a play, a movie, a song, etc... they don't deserve my love.

  • -- The first ten minutes of THE PHANTOM MENACE.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Sequel trilogy

    by Rodie

    The only hope for SW in the future is that: A. Lucas, on his deathbed, will have a change of heart and sign off on re-releasing the unaltered OT with pristine image and sound. Maybe it's like his insurance policy for his more moneymaker in his back pocket before he dies. B. After Lucas' death his children and Lucasfilm will shepherd a sequel trilogy with a talented director (Nicolas Winding Refn, Duncan Jones, Christopher Nolan) that will jump forward 50 years or more after ROTJ with only Luke as a wise old Jedi, Chewbacca, R2 and 3PO still around with a whole new set of main characters. I actually think both of these scenarios have a decent chance of happening.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    by gaygoonie

    I bought the OT on BD. The prequels are god awful. Everyone my age agrees. (35). The end.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST


    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop


  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:25 a.m. CST


    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    You're blaming Episode 5 for continuity problems? You do now Ep5 was made many years before Ep3, right? So by default any continuity problems between OT and PT are the fault of the god awful PT movies.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:22 a.m. CST

    @didnt: continuity

    by tailhook

    I know exactly how they were released, I was just evaluating them as I went without the baggage and 5 does suffer from the continuity issue. It may not be its fault, but at this point it largely doesn't matter. The 6 movies are what they are. 100 years from now people aren't going to be worrying about Original Trilogy this, Prequel Trilogy that, they'll evaluate and come to the 6 movies, just as i've done. @gaygoonie: 38. So while i'm technically not 35, same age range :P. @rodie: There was definately story enough for a 7-9. The Timothy Zahn Thrawn trilogy books(Heir To The Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command) were originally endorsed as a drop-in replacement for those. Basically, any Star Wars sequel movies would deal with Luke attempting to rebuild the Jedi(after all, they've Returned) and a New Republic while dealing with the remaining remnants of the Empire. You can cut off the head and cripple the core, but that doesn't mean a lot of the infrastructure and legacy wasn't left over that needs to be handled. So in short you'd have 1-3 detailing the destruction of 'The Old Republic' and formation of the Empire, 4-6 dealing with the destruction of the Empire, and 7-9 dealing with the aftermath and building its replacement 'The New Republic'.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Aunt Beru burnt up & so did my mother.

    by Stegman84

    Fuck sakes. Harry Knowles, constantly bringing inappropriate tastelessness to all new levels. I swear, one day we're going to hear about all the bodies discovered buried underneath Harry's house...

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, how does George Lucas's ass taste?

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Because you pretty much said it's ok for him to take a shit in your mouth and you'll enjoy every bit of it. Sorry, you are dead wrong on this one. I know it's your opinion but for someone who is supposed to love film as much as you say you do I am blown away how you can't see how Lucas has fucked his legacy with the amount of tinkering. It's not about childhood raping, it's about art. It's about letting a classic be what it is. Fixing the film to remove scratches, dirt or do a remaster is an acceptable change to a classic. But totally re-writing and adding in new parts that you know takes away from the vibe of what you created after you've been praised is just retarded. For you to support that road Lucas has traveled down Harry is insulting to what you said you stand for. The old Harry Knowles died a long time ago on a website far away. My the farce be with you.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:38 a.m. CST

    Moan winge

    by Thall_Joben

    Pathetic - most of you fuckers don't deserve his worst stuff. Show some gratitude and some respect instead of continually bitching like wet little boys. We'd still be watching nothing but 1960s rocket ship b-movies without GL's efforts to change things. What a bunch of ungrateful pricks. GEORGE DID US A FUCKING FAVOUR. Say thank you nicely and shut the fuck up.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Two of my strongest cinema memories are from Star Wars

    by Stegman84

    Seeing Star Wars in the 70's was a truly mindblowing experience, and one that you could palpably feel through the entire cinema. People who weren't there and didn't experience that truly have no idea of the impact of that film on audiences at the time. Dry facts will never be able to paint the full picture of just what that was like, or how energised that film made audiences at the time. Seeing Phantom Menace was a truly depressing experience, to the degree of which I have never felt upon seeing any other film, and again you could palpably feel that shared sense of profound disappointment as it sunk in to the audience that after so many years, this was what new Star wars was ultimately to be. You could almost hear the dreams of long term and old school fans shatter in that CGI filled darkness. I have seen worse films at the cinema, but I have never seen another film so profoundly take an audience from excited anticipation to profound bitter disappointment is so conclusive and depressing a manner. I hate the prequel trilogy, I just think they are bad films, badly made. Expensive looking? Sure. But badly made by all the core fundamentals of real film-making. I still love Star Wars, I still love those original three films. I don't care if they were flawed, they had a magic to them that was like lightning in a bottle, and that has been slowly leeched out of them with each subsequent 'improvement' made by Lucas. If he would just release those original versions in a decent quality then he could carry on his merry way and make all the alternate versions that he wanted, and no one would care. In fact most who oppose him now would probably support him, and buy those ever changing versions just for curiosity's sake. But Lucas instead is trying to replace the originals, taking away the choice of watching the films that we fell in love with as they were, and that is his sin. Not making changes, but forcing those changed versions on us as a replacement to the originals. And that is simply unforgivable. If he went the Ridley Scott or James Cameron route, and gave people the choice, then there wouldn't be any outcry, or certainly not to the degree that there is. But Lucas hubris prevents him from ever allowing us those originals now, because if he did so the embrace that fans worldwide would show to those versions would make all Lucas' changes seem like a waste of time, a huge, ongoing fool's errand, and he can't face up to that. So he continues to tinker, hoping that one day one of his new versions will be widely accepted as the ultimate version by most fans and the public at large, and he just can't see that with each new version he is getting further away from the original Star Wars magic, not closer to it. I don't hate George Lucas, I do find him fascinatingly tragic to watch as a film-maker in continual decline, and I am long past expecting anything good from him any longer. He also no longer gets any of my money, because I won't personally be party to enabling his craziness and delusion. That's my own choice, others that choose to live with the changed versions as still being 'mostly there' are fully entitled to do so. I just can't. I just thank God that we live in the internet age, where fan efforts can try and do what Lucas refuses, in keeping these original versions alive, and that those versions can be found and aquired if you know where to look. The quality will never be as good as these official releases, but the films themselves are so much better, and that's all that really counts.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:57 a.m. CST

    AOTC does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    ATTACK OF THE CLONES, seriously some people think this is the best SW movie?! The movie in which a bounty hunter hires ANOTHER bounty hunter to release a long range droid to assassinate someone? The movie in which Obi Wan takes detective advice from one of the cast of MONSTERS INC? The movie in which Padme constantly falls from higher than a 2 storey building and carries on as if NOTHING happened? The movie with the most cringeworthy, zero-chemistry, wooden plank romance in the history of cinema? Okay. It's like the really ugly sister who you worry is never going to get hitched, but this thread proves there's someone for everyone!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 4:11 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Oh and I forgot those CGI locust type creatures. They were fucking awesome werent they. Really iconic new alien creation. They'll live forever in cinema history along with the OT creatures like the jawa's, the sand people, and Jabba the Hutt. Anyone know or even give a fuck what they were called? Total fail.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 4:39 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 5:24 a.m. CST

    NO! NO! NOOOO!

    by Gozu

    Lucas ruined one of the best moments of "Jedi" and of the entire goddamn trilogy, probably out of fucking spite.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Hmmm Crispy!

    by Bruce Attenborrow

    I will toss my tiny opinion into the abyss of screechy voices; yup I'd like the original triology in BR too but I know that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I queued round the block with my dad in '77 to see a film I'd been ridiculously hyped up for since I'd seen a clip of the Falcon fighting the TIEs feeling from the Death Star on Clapperboard (a kid's movie show in the UK). The shots of the TIE pilots was just literall out of this world for a 7 year old geek. It still sends a shiver down my neck. Having seen the side-by-side comparisions the space battle shots of ESB I've decided I will be buying. The crispyness of the Death Star is just too good to miss. Plus the docs and deleted scenes are, and this is where I'm in agreement with Harry, my Dead Sea Scrolls (nice analogy!). If I ever end up showing the blu rays to my daughter, which I definitely will, I will be able to tell her about the original versions and she can go and view them on my previous special edition dvds. As long as there are veterans of '77 still preaching about the magic GL will continue to be derided as a poppinjay. We all know that the man suffered from not having anyone with the balls to tell him his ideas sucked. We all know he hasn't had an decent original idea in years. Young people will see him and giggle because of how funny he is. At this point though handing over £60 to Lucasfilm is an academic exercise. I've bought shittier PS3 games which were far worse uses of my hard earned cash (although a number of them were Star Wars games...doh!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Won't buy it, but maybe I'll put it in my Qwikster queue.

    by ReportAbuse

    It still sounds weird writing that though.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Seriously, Harry, and this is coming from some one who has met you...


    ...get a life, dude. There IS actually such a thing as a BAD movie. And a movie that used to be good but has been made "bad." Lucas has ruined the series. Acknowledge it. I know how much you love to romanticize shit but... the Star Wars movies have esssentially been destroyed, It's over, my friend. Understand that.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 6:24 a.m. CST

    So far...

    by The_Red_Avenger

    Picked up the Blu-Ray Complete Saga the other day - had a £50 voucher and I got it for £60 so I figured £5 a trilogy was worth it. Anyway - I have decided to watch them in Episode order and so far watched the first two. TPM (which I have never owned before and watched in full twice) is still horrible. I actually agree that Jake Lloyd is the worst thing in it. I cringed every time he spoke. Jar Jar by default is bad, I mean really bad but that's a given. The other Mia-step and one which unfortunately carries on through the trilogy is Nute Gunray and the Federation which are just terrible. And my own personal hate-figure is the commentator of the Pod Race voiced by Gregg Proops (who I quite like normally) as it just doesn't fit in the style of the films. There are some good bits - the Darth Maul fight is great but unfortunately it's interspersed with the horrible Gungans battle and Jar Jar being a total twat and the assault on the federation ship which is ruined by Jake Lloyd. So for me TPM is still as horrible as I remember. AOTC is a mixed bag for me. I like the opening 20 minutes and really like the last 45 - The Jedi's battle in the arena is wonderful but again the film is let down by the script and the acting. The love story is totally unconvincing, and the Tattooine scenes are just totally wasted. It's a better film for me but not by that much. ROTS suffers again from a totally wasted first hour but recovers for the rest. I've seen that one more recently as I have the DVD. I'll be watching that one tonight and I really hope they've fixed the totally unconvincing Obi-Wan riding the creature. Not had a look at the extra discs yet. I will when I've finished the saga.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST

    @tailhook: continuity continued...

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    The bad continuity between PT and OT is a testament to how bad the PT is, not the other way around. Exhibit A, if you will.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    The Phantom Menace is a terrible movie

    by in6087

    Almost every CGI character is performing some kind of slapstick and is there for "comic relief" but comic relief from what? It's so so dull. Even the decent actors are either just phoning it in or pretending to find the infantile slapstick funny. It's like when your boss holds a meeting and cracks a joke and there's a competition to see who can keep their job by laughing loudest. Fucking awful. I'll be interested to see how the other prequels hold up, but TPM is right up there with Transformers 2 in my eyes. I actually fell asleep three times during the last half of it. I'd originally planned to watch 2 of the Star Wars movies over the next few weekends, but I don't think I could stand more than one. Thank God for Doctor Who on Saturday night. My worry now is that Lucas is slowly, year by year, changing the original trilogy into the prequels. Eventually there will be nothing left. WHY did nobody stop him? Rick McCallum should hang his head in shame. Actually, he should commit hari kari .

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST

    in6087 thank you ....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    in6087 thank you for your detailed account of your negative TPM viewing experience of. I can't recall the last time someone online said they disliked the movie. You sire - are a true pioneer! jk

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    seriously though.........

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    if there are episodes you dislike........seeing them clearer in HD probably wont make you like them anymore. I learned that while watching aotc. TPM however was improved with the better PQ and CG Yoda.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Downloading them...

    by xbagboy

    And then editing out the "GNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMES"!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:48 a.m. CST

    You guys HAVE to see this...

    by ChickenStu Enjoy!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:49 a.m. CST

    tailhook : "asstard" has become my new word.

    by ChickenStu

    Thank you for this amazing gift you've given me.

  • Anyone who this AOTC is good is clearly riding the short bus with a helmet on.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Holiday Special Video

    by arloflores

    Ok, am I the only one not able to access the stupid Boba Fett cartoon. I access it and get a screencap of the video and then it quickly changes to the 360 view of the Boba Fett costume.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Did he fix Luke saying "Carrie"?

    by bah

    Since he's changing all this stuff that's not broken, you'd think he'd correct actual mistakes as well. Did he?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Or the Imperial spy at Mos Eisley whacking his own nose?

    by bah

    (I know his name is Gorindan, but I'm pretending I only know the movies) Or the trooper bonking his head on the doorway?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Why doesn't he change the obvious things?

    by arloflores

    Normally I've never had any problem with any of the "additions" to these movies. The only real problem I've had is with the "nooooooo." Although after watching it last night it didn't seem as bad as what I saw on me crazy. But what really gets me is the stuff Lucas DOESN'T fix. In TPM the commentary clearly states that when Sebulba is right on Anakin's ass near the end of the podrace you can see that they forgot to digitally add Sebulba in the cock pit, but did they add him in for the blu ray? Nope. In ROTJ when Vader is taunting Luke about "giving himself to the dark side" while Luke hides Vader is clearly holding Luke's lightsaber in a continuity mistake stemming from a cut scene from that dramatic part of the movie. But did Lucas digitally erase the lightsaber? Nope. This is all petty stuff, but really, if you're going to go so far as to add blinks to Ewok's grab an eraser and take the extra lightsaber out of Vader's hand.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Did he fix Luke saying "Carrie"?

    by ZodNotGod

    NO! He doesn't say Carrie, he says, HEY!" Dumb ass! Turn on the closed captioning and you will see.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Downloading them... xbagboy

    by ZodNotGod

    While your at it, get the originals and shut your Gob!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    The truth is, it's only now that I realise how bad TPM is

    by in6087

    Between 1999 to last weekend I just kind of let it slide, and didn't post any negative opinions about it. Now I realise it's among the top ten most offensive movies I've seen and has no redeeming qualities. I'm sorry to say that I didn't think any of the latest changes noticeably improved it. What's the PQ? I used to enjoy AotC and RotS... I'm hoping I still will when I watch them over the next few weeks. I'm mainly posting my opinions here so that they can be picked up by any data mining software that crawls AICN to learn different patterns people use to express negative opinions...

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST


    by The_Red_Avenger

    ...definitely improves in the visual stakes - it looks gorgeous and the detail is astonishing, but it just can't make up for the acting and script. Possibly the best acting is by Liam Neeson and Ian McDirmid and Ewan McGregor does a valiant young Obi Wan channelling Alec Guiness but that's a film decision and perhaps they shouldn't have. but the rest is just painful and quite insulting. I mean who's bright idea was it to have Watto stereotyping a Jewish salesman? The Fedaration are offensive to the Japanese and I'm sure Jar Jar is embraced by Cajun and Carribbean locals. I can't actually think of any racial stereotypes in the OT. Even Admiral Ackbar sounds would have been so easy to give him a French accent (shudders, hope he hasn't given George any idea's). No TPM is unsavable unless you completely redub Jar Jar , Nute Gunray and Watto and recast Jake Lloyd and muted that fucking two headed commentator.

  • or was already fixed in the Dvd? i dont remember..

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST

    in the prequel prequels- we see that the emperor is anakin's 'dad'...


    either he knocks up anakin's slave mom on a visit to tatooine and then force-wipes her memory, or his midiclorian count (sperm count) is just so high she gets pregnant by mere proximity to him in some cantina or but seriously- that chick had anakin by immaculate conception with the force? or is her count high too?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 9 a.m. CST


    by in6087

    That's true... it is an epoch in special effects. Maybe it's best to view it as a kind of experiment to see what could be done in a mainly CGI movie. They got a lot of things right, such as conveying the discomfort of CGI characters in the hot climate of tatooine. I just wish they used less slapstick and the attendant zany sound effects. Most of JarJar's dialogue seems to be "clatter, crash, bang" (fading to silence). MacGregor laughs at the witty script and takes refuge in memories of Trainspotting. I think Darth Maul remains a cool character. In a way, I wish they'd used him instead of (or as well as) Jango in the sequel, and not bothered with Boba. Or else decided Boba was of a race that had a long lifespan, or was a robot or something, and not had Jango.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Did I purchase the SW Blu-rays?

    by justmyluck

    NOOO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The CITIZEN KANE set was a completely satisfying substitute, though! Come to think of it, I never picked up a CRYSTAL SKULL DVD or Blu either, even in the after market bins. That's kind of sad, isn't it?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    StarWars Comics.....

    by Bent

    Love the Early Howard Chaykin!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Let me get this right...Harry asks us week by week to select

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    DVDs on his review section and support Amazon if we want to purchase titles and help support the site, yet "Yoko" runs out and buys the Star Wars set at WALMART? Nice Harry, nice.

  • i can't bring myself to read them in their entirety anymore. i scroll down to the end paragraph or two when he finally gets to the matter at hand. as i scroll, i do skim to make sure i can ignore the fluff. terms like 'when i was a kid in austin' 'starlog' 'uncle (or) aunt (or) friend of family (or) 6 degrees of separation from namedrop namedrop namedrop" and seriously, he brags about completely normal childhood activities like they are unique and then is casual about the bigger things like we can at all relate to how coddled and pampered he was. we are supposed to feel for any amount of work or toil or effort in his easy life and then, by his scant association with any name in hollywood or movie making history, elevate him to as cool as them. this star wars review is a joke but it was good to see that in the straw dogs review he still has a little fight left in him.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    C'mon guys...

    by Mr Gorilla

    You're getting so PERSONAL about Lucas etc. I do think you should pull back, stop being so rude. I was six-and-a-half when I saw Star Wars, so it's totally in my blood. That and Empire Strikes Back completely blew me away. But Return of the Jedi somehow didn't have the same magic. It somehow felt that someone was making a kids' film - whereas the two ones before felt like they were being made for any age. It pains me to say that Phantom Menace is still as bad as it was in 1999. But things look up with AOTC. Haters will pinpoint moments that are laughable, but the story is nevertheless GOING somewhere. And for me the final ten minutes of Revenge of the Sith were actually very moving. Not just the downfall of Anakin. I felt - as I'm sure others did - a real line being drawn to that first film, a line back into the past, when I was little boy being enchanted by this world.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    QUOTE: 'Specifically Obi-Wan talking about how Yoda trained him and it took Yoda to correct him about there being another.. when he was there at the birth of the twins and hid them. It would have made more sense for Yoda to have said that with Obi-Wan saying 'no, there is another'. ' Oy. It doesn't surprise me to hear you think that AOTC is the best one when you clearly can't grasp what is in front of you. Obi Wan knows about Leia, and yet dismisses her as any type of possible Jedi saviour. Yoda can see otherwise and states as much. The line works. If Obi Wan had no knowledge of Leia at all, the line still works. Bottom line? The line WORKS.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 10:19 a.m. CST

    she had anakin by jedi obviously

    by 510XH01573R

    probably thanks to some dead jedi from way back like 100,000 years ago, thought it would be a brilliant idea to make a powerful jedi to restore order. Imagine a council of ghost jedi setting all this up?

  • ---This is all petty stuff, but really, if you're going to go so far as to add blinks to Ewok's grab an eraser and take the extra lightsaber out of Vader's hand.--- Totally agree. The inconsistency in the tweaks and fixes in both mind-boggling and frustrating. It's best to ignore it otherwise it will dampen your enjoyment of the saga. But for the purposes of discussion...yeah ILM seems all over the place regarding fixes on this release. Make an ewok blink - but ignore Vader's stray hand gesture while talking to Tarkin in ANH. Add a dug to ROTJ - but ignore LUke's retarded looking white/green/barely blue saber on the falcon in ANH. Something they actually implied heavily that they fixed.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Great article that reminds me to just love Star Wars

    by moorE12

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    hey no link!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    *old timey voice* saaay, whats ur game pally?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    ghost jedi setting this up

    by A G

    Sounds really neat! Oh wait, George Lucas decided that only Qui Gon Jinn, Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker can come back as jedi ghosts. Qui Gon Jinn found out how to cheat death. Just one of Lucas' little additions that totally ruin any sense of awe and wonder.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Star Wars PSA

    by slone13


  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    "Improvements" that cause further continuity errors

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I don't really count that as an improvement (CGI rocks that appear, and disappear in front of R2-D2, New big door at Jabba's smaller in the reverse shot, the windows at cloud city, CGI characters that disappear in shots, etc). And from all accounts the transfers are stunning, if you like your films to look like sterile made for Sci-fi channel quality. I've got better ways to spend 80-100 bucks.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    TPM, despite its flaws is not nearly as awful or dull as The Two Towers or the pathetic Dr. Who in any incarnation...There I said it. 'Nuff said.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    bizarrely, my personal rank is V, VI, IV, III, II, I

    by in6087

    The news that Lucas had diddled with the emotional crescendo of the whole saga in VI made me look to see whether it was too late for me to cancel my pre-order at Amazon. It was... I've been quivering with rage ever since.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I have given in. Its Lucas muscle car to tinker with so he does

    by Knobules

    Not that I jump all over this stuff or really care anymore. They still will have that screaming zit tooth creature "singing" in Jabbas lair. Jake Lloyd is still going to suck suck suck. But as far as Lucas monkeying with it. Don't care. Have fun with your creation George. I am just not paying for it.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    I just want a "Final Cut"

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I mean, the guys had going on thirty years now and billions of dollars. Put CGI Yoda in Empire. Add Obi Wan winking at Luke before Vader strikes him down. Add a monologue by Nein Numb as the second death star explodes, just make a final cut already. Until I know there is "final cut" I ain't buying it.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Thanks Harry...

    by vee dagama

    For the Voice of Reason here. Heaven know(le)s that i don't always agree with the reviews but here you hit the nail on the head: I watched the bluray ANH yesterday with my six year old son and it was the father - son experience everybody wishes for. He doesn't care about the minor changes , he sees the trilogy like i saw it: with wide eyed wonder. This is my first and last 'FUCK YOU' to all the jaded Star Wars fans whose sole, pitiful goal in life is the bitch about Star Wars. We don't need you. Get that in your heads. WE DON'T NEED YOU. Again, thx Harry

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Couldn't give a flying fuck if I never saw Star Wars again...

    by BiggusDickus

    Then again, if I leave it another few years, ol' George will have dicked about with it so much, it'll be a completely new movie...

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    And this what really bugs me about Lucas

    by Samuel Fulmer

    From IGN's bluray review: "Phantom Menace isn't just the most disappointing film of the six in terms of narrative, but visually as well. It was originally shot in 35mm and it appears that some digital smoothing has been employed here, perhaps to make it look a little more like the two later films, which were both shot in HD." Now this is dumb right? You take one of the actual strengths of Phantom Menace (It's shot on film look) and degrade it to look like the other two made for Sci-fi channel looking visual tragedys. that are Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Thank god Michael Mann doesn't go back to something like Heat and give it that shitty Digital camera look of Public Enemies.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:05 p.m. CST


    by Rob2030

    So if we are to use this painter analogy with the Star Wars films. Wouldn't that make Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand the painters for Episodes 5 and 6? So where does it make sense for Lucas to make changes to other peoples paintings? Anyways despite you professing your appreciation for film and film history the truth is it's all lip service. You're really just a groupie for directors or in this case writers rather than a true film buff. Which is fine but stop claiming to be anything else.

  • A superb and flawless retrofit! Everything great about Starwars is alive and well and living at Disney. From the moment you see the old shitty robot marked return to factory you know you're in for a treat. They made it as good as could be. C3P0 and R2 now pilot you. Flawless animatronic 3P0's head snaps back harder than Anthony Daniels could ever do going into hyperdrive. The best and most convincing holographic 3D and motion ride tech combine to literally propel you into the Starwars universe. It fucking simply is the greatest Starwars anything ever made. 26 different ride destinations- I saw vader attack me- this ship crashed through the glass view screen- looked real. They mix the ride so I saw parts of one I had seen from riding previously. Go immediately

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    It's obvious lucas had nothing to do with the new ride

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    You would do well in prison.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I rather like the new Doctor Who

    by NightArrows

    The old show scared the shit out of my 2 year old self, however...

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Agreed on DOCTOR WHO

    by YackBacker

    More soul and character development in one episode than the entirety of the three prequels. George, it's called storytelling. Try using some of your millions to buy some of it.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    You prefer the narration cut of Blade Runner......

    by john

    Seriously??? Are you nuts Harry??? My estimation of your film taste has dropped to an all time low after reading that, anyone else agree?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Sorry, have to chime in

    by VXXXJesterXXXV

    If this has been stated already, I apologize, my work PC sucks ass and I can't get all the talkback open. I see it mentioned all the time that "these are George Lucas's movies" but they ARE NOT. The prequels and New Hope are his movies. Empire and Jedi were directed by individuals other than Lucas, which makes me sick that he is taking something that another director made and fucking with them all the time.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    I sat down and watched the narrated cut of Bladerunner, which I hadn't seen since I saw the film as a kid at the Drive-In. It's not THAT bad. The narration doesn't run the full length of the movie, which would have been more intrusive. Though it does resurface during the end of Roy and Deckard's confrontation which spoils it's perfection (the scene). The one thing I DO prefer about it is that it doesn't have Ridley's "Deckard is a Replicant" bullshit stuffed into it...

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The Runner of Blades

    by john

    yeah I can see your point about the original ending with deckard perhaps being a replicant, but I think its superior that way. Contentious issue either way :)

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    @ Admonisher

    by Jason

    Have you seen mattman's "Hyperspace" edition, 720p upscaled from the 06 dvds?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    I DO prefer the Director's cut ending (without the Deckard is a Replicant subtext) in that it has a sense of urgency and it's very tense, versus the "lalalalala out for a drive with my robot sex bucket" ending of the original :P

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Did he fix that fake ass animal anakin rides in the field

    by proevad

    in AOTC? Of course not, cuz that would make sense. What would make more sense would be re-shooting the whole scene. Worst. Love Scene. Ever. Porky's had more tender moments.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:18 p.m. CST

    I too would love to see a Citizen Lucas bio film


    It would end with Lucas as an old man alone in his private screening room at Skywalker Ranch, his family and any real friends he once had having abandoned him long ago, watching his latest bastardized version of what was once A New Hope, now an unrecognizable jumble of cgi animated gifs, mumbling to himself, "Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that Greedo DID shoot first, and I'd have produced 10 more prequels to prove why if the National Film Preservation Foundation hadn't taken the rights to Star Wars away from me. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect my art from my own worst instincts..."

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Still such a disturbing scene...

    by NightArrows

    Yet funny as fuck:

  • and check the original BR trailer which also had the is all about the noir atmosphere.god,i love this movie.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    noir vs sci-fi

    by john

    I'm not sure Ridley scott really intended to make a noir film considering the bnarration and altered ending were not his decision. Its dark sci-fi really....

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Any thoughts on the netflix meltdown

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I don't think I've seen such a successful company sabotage their own business since Blockbuster did a decade ago.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST



    The only thing that I can come up with is that Steve Jobs was secretly their CEO.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    joachimo, you're wrong


    The entire art direction, set and costume design is inspired by the 40s, noir's heyday. Clearly, they were going for a retro noir look to fit a very noirish story.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Harry writes like an apologetic beaten wife.

    by kirttrik

    Didn't he say he would no longer promote Star Wars on this site after the CG CLONE WARS was released theatrically?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    choppah-Good call on Jobs

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I mean it was fairly obvious from the whole price thing a few months back that they wanted people to make a choice, physical or streaming. I guess streaming won out, but unless they greatly change their selection, a lot of people are going to go elsewhere.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST

    We'll see the original Hi-Defs after Lucas is dead.

    by MCVamp

    But not now. Too many enterprising Phantom Editors out there. Wouldn't take much to make a definitive edition with Greedo shootin' first, "Bring my shuttle", Yub Nub, Lapti Nek, Both offending "NOOOOOOO"s replaced, a Jar-Jar overdub (I volunteer) that basically fixes all the fan boy whining. And the Phantom Edit did it in 480i!!! Lucas isn't going to let some shlub touch his baby any further (even the two he didn't technically direct.) Oh well. There's always hope that his kids will farm out the Saga to new talent post-Lucas. And yet I sense that Lucas is going to set up some sort of perpetual estate bullshit that will make the Disney Public Domain Copyright rape look like a sneeze by comparison.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I saw every single star wars film

    by emeraldboy

    and all versions of it. the originals and the 1997 updates. Saw the prequels too. the prequels start the story from scratch so to speak. I cant believe that after return of the jedi that nobody thought no more star wars as they left the cinema. George Lucas did start a bit of precendent. filmmakers like him and Ridley scott started to go back to thier most famous films and magically re discovered new footage. which was then re edited into the movies like alien. Lucas was the first filmmaker to deluxe box set his films. So now you have all the versions of star wars out on dvd. James Cameron also does this. and the berg too. which was just atrocious what he did to ET. and there are four version of a movie. Studio Cut, directors cut, tv cut and and the plane cut. the studio version of star wars was not lucas's version of the movie. Right know we have lucas version of Star Wars. this is inter galactic saga. and a saga can have many chapters. oh and more think. remember the matrix. wasnt just three films? was it. Lucas looked at the matrix and took note.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    "Qwikster" is going to be used as a scapegoat and tax write off

    by MCVamp

    The end is looming for discs through Netflix. They set up Qwikster to buffer any Netflix losses and to absorb impact when the service is finally discontinued. They're obviously leaning towards killing the mail-disc service to cut out the post office and supplementing manufacturing costs. If they can swing enough studios they'll go stream-only, but to attempt to head off the "protest" cancellations, they'll make the discs an entirely different service. They think if they wean people off Netflix=DVDs, that Netflix will be unaffected when the discs disappear. But oops, they're customers are web- and news-saavy and pay attention when a company starts applying lube.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    To be fair

    by proevad

    ...after Jedi, some of us didn't want anymore Star Wars. There was no internet as we have it now, so people had to bitch and moan over the telephone or actually face to face. At my middle school, it was basically--"God, can you believe how bad Jedi sucked?"--"It was a goddamn muppet movie." Still did great business, but I think Empire stayed at our local cineplex for almost a full year--Jedi left pretty quick--at least in my town. It just didn't get repeat business. I only saw it once, and this coming from someone who watched Empire 13 times in the theater. Still have only seen it once, plus a few scenes on TV over the years.

  • sometimes mistakes are the crucial ingredient which turns movies into cinematic masterpieces . I never thought of BR as a noir movie too,until i learned that it was regarded as such by numerous fans and movie critics.At first i didnt accept that characterization,for me noir was always about b/w crime movies of the 40s and the 50s. But then i learned that Cameron always regarded his Terminator movie as a noir film too. (techno-noir more specifically). Eventually i "saw the light" and came to terms that BR is indeed a noir movie in its heart.A scifi noir? a futuristic noir? a techno noir? a noir nevertheless.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    lucas is not poor...

    by emeraldboy

    he is a wealthy man. lucas knows that there is more than one way to tell a story. technology doesnt just mean special effects or cgi. he is adapting star wars to that new technology. and using dvd or blu ray to expand the star wars universe.

  • and that are message boards.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST

    The Original Star Wars Trilogy is holy movie magic!!!

    by GravyAkira

    Especially episodes IV and V. No improvements needed. I find The Return of the Jedi special edition to be quite terrible. The original Jabba Palace and Ewok end celebration songs are a million times better than the shitty special editions. Lucas is crazy for those changes, let alone tossing a young Anakin ghost in there at the end. And the special effects still hold up pretty well! Glad I still got my original versions. A true treasure!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    star tours is AwEsOmE!!!! Really

    by hipsterism

    I went to Disneyland this past summer and got to ride it 3 different times and got 3 different adventures. after the last ride and not willing to do the 90 minute wait a fourth time I told my wife that star tours almost made we want to forgive Lucus for the prequels. not that the prequels weren't represented they just took the best of them and made them part of a top notch ride...highly recommended!

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    I hate that they waited like 100 years to update Star Tours

    by MCVamp

    Like the SECOND I move out of L.A.. I must have rode that stupid thing 1,000 times. Mostly because near the end there were no lines and every year particularly around the prequel times there was buzz "Lucas is gonna update Star Tours." "It's going to be a Podrace ride." "It'll be 3D." "It's going to be a different ride every time." For a DECADE. NOTHING. Then I move out of state, get married and trapped in NM and BAM. New Star Tours. Fucking Great.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Consider me on the dark side, officially.

    by ravenink

    I have been a Star Wars fan my entire life. When I was in 3rd grade and the teacher told us to stand up in front of the class and talk about what we wanted to be when we grew up, I proudly proclaimed "A Jedi Knight!" and launched into a speech about why that was the best thing anyone could ever aspire to be. I collected as many toys as I could find and even traded a bunch of my Legos to a day care centre in exchange for my first AT-AT walker. I'm fairly certain I've played every Star Wars video game to come out since the SNES Super Star Wars. I didn't hate the prequels as much as most other people did. I know they're shit when you take a good hard look at them, but I enjoyed them on the first viewing or two. I didn't hate the special editions. I thought a lot of the changes were unnecessary and was pretty annoyed by the extended musical number in Jabba's palace, but the improved effects were pretty cool to see in 1997. I didn't even get very pissed when Hayden popped up in Jedi on the DVD... weird as it may have been, I guess I accepted that Anakin looked like that last, before he became Darth Vader- and that Sebastian Shaw was an awkward extrapolation of what Vader would have looked like without the scars at his age. But It finally happened. George changed my favourite moment in the entire Star Wars saga (including books, games, comics... the whole lot). Darth Vader being overcome by the lingering love he had for his son, causing him to betray his master and return to the light side of the force is one of the few moments of ANY MOVIE EVER that consistently brings tears to my eyes. After seeing that awkward "NOOOOOOOO!" Frankenstein'd in to the best moment of silent character development in cinema history, I'm finally on the boycott bandwagon. After almost 15 years of defending Lucas' wacky choices, I am boycotting the blu ray. I'm on the dark side... and it feels so much smarter. Give us back our movies George, you're insane.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Speaking of "Noooooooo" for Jedi....

    by MCVamp

    Is it true that it's not James Earl Jones, but the guy who does Vader for the video games?

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Over priced Lame extras

    by anakinsoyo

    I love star wars i always have and i always will . But after paying the high price for the blu ray box set i have to say im way disapointed . Any star wars fan already has most of the deleted scenes which were on the pc insider guide and apart from the two jedi ones everything else pretty much sucks . I mean check out the women yelling clip from a new hope ? WTF what was the point of that . Lucas has alot more of this stuff on lock down but he was too fucking lazy to get off his arse and really do something for the fans . I mean who actually gives a fucking about the star warriors documentary other than those 501st legion people ? Come on ! Oh well who care lucas doesnt cause hes got my £60 ! Anways you cannot blame me for bitching ! i mean theres no other way to talk about star wars anymore is there ? lol Ps i will add and im sure most star wars fans would agree . Star wars should be handed over to other people now to explore and expand . The talent is there ! Just look at the Old republic trailers ? and that was just some small trailers ? Think of the posibilities !

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST


    by ravenink

    I totally agree. I firmly believe that the first Force Unleashed game and the CG Old Republic trailer trounce absolutely everything the prequels threw at us.

  • Sept. 19, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    How to solve everything

    by mike hannen

    and I'm not fucking kidding: digitize the offending disks at full res. Re-edit them yourselves. I plan on fixing the end of Jedi (no scream "nooo" and removing Greedo shooting 1st with After Effects from ANH) Then just burn new blu ray disk. This is a lot easier than you think. Fuck GL. He can change his movies, it's his right. I can change them too.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Dark Empire

    by rickdeckard1

    Dark Empire Series One from Dark Horse Comics is the sh$%t ! The best storyline besides the first SW trilogy, RUN and buy it if you have never read the series. I wish one day it can be translated into film or a high end quality cartoon.

  • If not, I really doubt GL brought him in for Blu-ray looping. Your guess is as good as mine and, really, would ANYONE want credit for it now?

  • I really doubt GL called him in for looping on the Blu-ray so your guess is as good as mine and, really, would ANYONE want credit for it now?

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST

    I love when the TB software eats your first attempt for 15 minutes.

    by justmyluck

    Maybe we can get an ETA of its apperance after clicking the 'Post Your Talkback' button?

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    George Lucas Ruined Star Wars

    by fastcars

    There's nothing wrong with improving special effects. But there's a lot wrong with f-cking up the story and the characters. I wouldn't like any book, movie or TV show, where the director or the producer f-cked up the story and characters to make things worse. But nobody else does it. Just George Lucas. Because everybody else is an artist. Not a businessman who dabbles in art. But yeah, go ahead, fanboys. Defend your Lord and Master. He's infallible like the Pope, I guess. Lord of the Rings >>>> 2011 Star Wars

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 3:42 a.m. CST


    by Mr Gorilla

    I agree with you - it's annoying when people f*** up story and characters. Which is why the second two LORD OF THE RINGS films are travesties. What the hell did he think he was doing, and how the the hell did he get away with it? HARRY POTTER >>>>>> LORD OF THE RINGS

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 4:17 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Mr Gorilla I agree with you - it's annoying when people f*** up story and characters. Which is why the Harry Potter films are travesties. What the hell did he think he was doing to JK Rowlings literature, and how the the hell did he get away with it? PERCY JACKSON AND THE LIGHTNING THIEF >>>>>> HARRY POTTER

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Whatever flies your boat...

    by Suskis

    I want the original movies. PERIOD. You can be happy, I am not.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Scene in Jedi when Luke is walking the plank

    by ZodNotGod

    That's always been there, genius! It's another Skiff.

  • those slugs who keep wishing him dead and threatening his kids need to be kicked off here and banned so fast. C'mon, what gives?

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST


    by Mr Gorilla

    Ha ha! Percy Jackson already was a travesty in book form - a travesty of Greek myths! JK Rowling liked the films and approved of the changes. JRR was dead, so we'll never know. But he was pretty clear that the way the stories should be told in THE TWO TOWERS was as two separate timelines, ie not intercutting. And what was Shelob doing in RETURN OF THE KING? I understand that they had to edit out Tom Bombadil, but what about the Scouring of the Shire? And why did they make Legolas into some extreme-sports dude, skateboarding down some stairs in TWO TOWERS and a Olyphant trunk in RETURN? Ugh. Almost as bad as when they had the Ewoks breakdancing in RETURN OF THE JEDI. That stank, even back in 1983. THE THREE COLOURS TRILOGY>>>>PERCY JACKSON

  • You can do that kind of stuff in a book, but that could never work in a movie, and you know it. Also, chronologically the encounter with Shelob takes place during the events of The Return of the King. Also, people were already complaining about The Return of the King having multiple endings, so to start a new storyline after the One Ring had been destroyed would not have been a good idea. It would have been anticlimactic. Plus, the movie was already more than three hours long. It might have been a nice and welcome addition to the extended version of ROTK, but you don't have to worry about stuff like the movie's length, but it would never have been possible in the theatrical version.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST


    by proevad

    ty. Think you're wrong though, don't remember that skiff being there in the 83 version.

  • You can do that kind of stuff in a book, but it could never work in a movie like The Two Towers, and you know it. Unless you made two movies instead of one. Also, chronologically the encounter with Shelob takes place during the events of The Return of the King. Peter Jackson was being faithful to the timeline. So, that's why it's in The Return of the King. Also, people where already complaining about The Return of the King having multiple endings, so to have The Scouring of the Shire on top of that would never have worked. The movie was already more than three hours long and to introduce a "new" storyline after the main storyline (the destruction of the One Ring) had ended would have been anticlimactic. It might have been a nice and welcome addition to the extended version, where you don't have to worry about a movie's length and attention-deficit moviegoers, but it would just not have been possible in the theatrical version.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 8:57 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    mr gorilla, i'm pleased you got that I was joking! In seriousness I did actually have the honor of meeting JRR Tolkien's daughter in the early Nineties. A very classy old lady. And being a bit of a film buff I asked her about the movie (back then this was the Bakshi cartoon, the rest were still just a glint in Peter Jackson's eye). She told me that it wasn't possible to put it on film. She didn't believe it could translate. I personally think that PJ did as well as anyone could to prove her wrong. Skateboarding Legolas and Gimli jokes are always going to be a concession you make to creating something 'entertaining' in a mass market way. And there remains something deep and aged within the book that Jackson's movies couldn't reach. But within the medium of film with all its foibles I think they are a triumph... and i'm really looking forward to THE HOBBIT.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 9 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    Pretty sure I'm right. I always recall the other skiff zooming around.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Ian nathan's Alien the vault....

    by emeraldboy

    is out now but here are some extracts....

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    zodnotgod . I guess you're right

    by proevad

    Only saw Jedi once. Friend had the blu ray on the other night and that scene was on. Don't know why but it looked fake, distracting and added on. Thanks.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Prequels need some love...

    by Bill Howard

    There is a great article about why the prequels are still worthwhile at

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Opinions are not allowed?

    by Bill Howard

    This is Harry's opinion, he shouldn't have to admit his opinion is wrong. I love the entire saga and I would never apologize for it.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I already saw the deleted scenes on Youtube

    by pumaman

    And there's still a few missing by the looks of it. Grand Moff Jerrjerod getting dinged by the Royal guards force pike being one of them.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Darth Maul

    by pumaman

    Best thing about the prequels by a mile.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Argument for the prequels? Okay his list sucks.

    by knowthyself

    Everything he lists is pretty much WHY those movies suck. All you have to do is watch the redlettermedia reviews on youtube and all of his points are debunked rather easily.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    hey cobra

    by Mr Gorilla

    I think that FELLOWSHIP is AMAZING! Really love it, especially the extended. It was my favourite book too, so that may be part of the reason I didn't like the other two as much. But they seemed to lack the rich characterisation of the first one. For what it's worth, I read an interview with Viggo and he said the same kind of thing. I'm really looking forward to THE HOBBIT too. I read that book when I was small. It was the biggest, most grown-up book I'd read by quite some way. I totally, totally adored it.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    rictus7 - Preach it, BRUTHA!

    by ZodNotGod

    Lifelong fan and nothing will ever change that and I will never apologize or be defensive about it. C'mon! Anyone one? Get away from the Sheeppeople and come to me, my babies...let me quell your pain!

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    No problem! Glad I could help and hope I wasn't a dick about it.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    I don't want to read this...

    by Waylaid-by-jackassery

    ...I'm just going to assume that Harry's going to spend about 15 paragraphs (well, what passes for a paragraphin Harry Grammarland) talking about himself, especially listing all the Star Wars stuff he has, before he actually gets to a review.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Riddle me this!

    by ZodNotGod

    How can an opinion about Art be "wrong?" There is such a thing as having a wrong opinion on some things. Say being a racist is definitely a wrong opinion or an anti-semite...but ART? Explain that to me. I get sick of hearing your are wrong everytime the prequels are mentioned. First off, there is no census, no more so than the originals which had their share of haters. Internet critics hate everything, they dog pile on anything popular, espeically something that generates traffic and readers. NO internet critic would ever go against the tide or be original. They have an agenda to push. I exclude Harry because he's not really a critic... So really, lets cram that noise about being wrong. NO SUCH THING. IF loving the prequels and hating LORD OF THE RINGS is wrong, I DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT!

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    The Prequels are great, Lord of the Rings is great, The Matrix is great

    by JackSlater4

    Harry Potter is shit.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Planet of the Apes is great!

    by ZodNotGod

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is great!

    by ZodNotGod

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    after star wars...

    by emeraldboy

    and some star trek movies.... back to the future is my post star wars fave franchise. indy followed by indy one and three....

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    @mr gorilla

    by fastcars

    What are you talking about? Peter Jackson never went back and changed things in the original films The Two Towers and The Return of the King. I guess you're trying to say that Peter Jackson changed elements of the books when making the film adaptations. In which case: 1) Obviously. And 2) that has no relevance whatsoever. Star Wars isn't an adaptation of a book. Peter Jackson's version of Lord of the Rings is Peter Jackson's version of Lord of the rings. We are talking about directors that change their originals, screwing up the story and characters to make them worse. We are not talking about books vs. films. I don't know who you're trying to fool with this faulty logic, but it's pretty desperate.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I wish they'd revamp Enter The Matrix for PS3

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    I've been called worse than "genius" on here. I just wanted an answer and I got one. Ty again.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    great article

    by Tim

    Love this article. Feel similarly to how you state your view on these films, the body of work and the present over-reactions. Not sure how many times I've seen something and thought, "I'd do that differently." Of course some of those thoughts came with these films. But as a body of work, the scope, the creativity, it's impressive. Thanks

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Lucas has been telling "fanboys" to fuck off for decades...

    by Darth Macchio

    Seriously. It started with Boba Fett's ignoble death in RotJ as originally filmed in the uncut/unedited version. I clearly recall the fan appreciation of Fett after Empire. Had the 'Slave I' toy ship and the Fett figure (old school style) along with basically ALL of my friends. Fett was immediately loved and I still am of the opinion that Lucas was disappointed and pissed off that people loved a character he wanted us to not like. Fett was the only being in the OT galaxy besides Tarkin and the Emperor, that would dare to speak as he did to Vader and get away with it with his life. And how does Lucas answer what I'm convinced he say as misplaced adulation? Maybe 8 minutes of screen time where he has a painfully brief confrontation with Luke (how awesome would a jedi/Fett fight have been back then?) and then he gets bumped off the skiv-flyer thing, screams like a little bitch, flops down into the Sarlacc - which promptly belches its "fuck you fanboys!" appreciation. Even seeing that movie as a kid in the theater in '83, I was convinced then that Lucas made a conscious decision to end Fett that way. Now? After his 'junkie' like obsession with making changes, especially the new "Nooooo!" change? Yes, absolutely, he hates the "geek" SW fan world and would rather we just fuck ourselves. Granted, I could be completely off my rocker here and GL may love us all and would actually appeal to our decades of SW love in defending his changes to what he perceived as a terribly incomplete series of movies...but somehow I just don't see that as being the truth. I'd be thrilled to find out that, like Harry described above, the man who was part and parcel for what would become my current love of cinema and music, sci-fi, horror, in general actually appreciated all of us in even the most tiniest of ways. I just have trouble seeing it...without us, no GL, no Lucasarts, no ILM, likely no Raiders either.

  • He doesn't! If he hated his fans that would at least mean that he cared enough to hate us and ruin what we love. I just think he flat out doesn't care. And I don't think he is aware of how much people despise what he has done to the OT. He has lived in a bubble surrounded by Yes Men his entire adult life. I doubt that any negative news about fan reaction to his bullshit ever reaches him. Also, we are fans of his films and not George Lucas. And I think he resents that fact. I think that may be the source of his contempt for the OT and why he feels the need almost compulsively to deface his own artwork. He wants to be loved, but instead people love Vader and Han Solo and Boba Fett. You may be right about the Boba Fett thing. That would totally fit the psychology of the man, hating and destroying something that everyone loved because he never told us we could love it in the first place.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST

    For example

    by Paul Denton

    "For example, does anyone think the end of Jedi was ruined by replacing that awful Ewok song with some stirring John Williams music, and by showing victory celebrations across the galaxy, instead of just in the Ewoks treehouse? Who doesn't enjoy the improved Death Star battle in Star Wars? Or having that extra character scene in between Han Solo and Jabba The Hutt? Don't you think expanding the visuals of Cloud City gives it a much bigger scale than sterile backdrop walls? How about giving the Sarlaac an actual mouth instead just some droopy tentacles?"... I have to say that I disliked all of those changes.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    The Prequels should have been Godfather 2


    But, instead they were Caddyshack 2.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Revenge of The Sith is Godfather II

    by JackSlater4

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    tailhook, you're a fucking moron

    by AzarN

    They're just fucking kid/teen movies, not your life, stupid.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST


    by AzarN

    They're just fucking kid/teen movies, not your life, stupid.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    FUCKING AICN forums

    by AzarN

    THAT is your reply? For fuck's sake. I'm not obsessed with Star Wars, or carrying baggage, I'm a trained filmmaker critiquing a film -- a film almost universally recognised to be horrible. They're just fucking kid/teen movies, not your life, stupid. Jesus Christ the morons that visit this site...

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Phantom Menace is Godfather 1


    Jar Jar = Pacino

  • The new John Williams music is great, as is showing the celebration from all the major planets from the saga. In fact that piece of music is one my favorites from the entire saga.

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Lucas forgot to remove Luke's light saber from Vader's left hand in ROTJ

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    when Vader is taunting Luke under the stairs - right before luke goes nuts and cuts off Vader's hand - you can clearly see Luke's saber in Vader's left hand - and did they put Sebulba back in his pod in that shot where he is bearing down on Anakin during the race in E1 - i didnt check - ewok eyes - if you are going to make one blink with real eyes, make them all blink with real eyes - felt lazy - all the ewoks, except for Wicket and the one that swipes the speeder bike, had the same blinkless doll eyes - which i kinda prefer

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST

    An improvement

    by The_Red_Avenger

    ...until they show Naboo and a fucking Gungan goes "Weesa Freeeeee" - I still love the old song as it segues much better into the credit theme. Yes that Skiff has always been there - it's patrolling the Barge and the Sarlacc Pit. Infact when Luke has finished with the Prisoner Skiff he jumps onto the other Skiff and attacks the guards. It's at this point that Boba Fett joins the frey As for Fett - the person above has some serious issues with his portrayal - now I don't know if it's his demise which I thought was pretty fitting or he had some grand idea's that he was actually a hero of some sort but he got off lightly in Jedi when he was portrayed as a whiny kid in Clones - you want to destroy Fett's image in one fell swoop then have him say "Get 'im, Dad" - see? Destroyed. Onto Rings and Shelob is in ROTK because that's where timewise she belongs. They got that right - check out the Tale of Years in the appendices of the book. The Extended cuts of the films are much better. Maybe not all the added scenes are an improvement or important but as a whole they are far more coherent. plus the endings don't seem as numbing as you've either watched each film in 2 parts or are prepared for a 4 hour stint anyway. Also if you add the extended lengths together you have enough for another reasonably long film. If you love the story then you will love these versions

  • Sept. 20, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    The prequel lovers argument...

    by MCVamp

    Is fine and dandy. But that's ALL window dressing to the central issues. The prequels were about establishing three things that were not clear to those who saw the originals. 1. The relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin. In this, I think the prequels kinda sorta succeeded. There was a definite master/student vibe and we at least got the idea that they liked each other but Anakin had issues. Could have been better, but hey, it was adequate. 2. How Anakin fell in love and fathered Luke and Leia. This was a fucking travesty. The dialogue and progression of Padme and Anakin as a couple is mindblowingly bad. The lack of chemistry between the actors can't even be criticized because how can any chemistry overcome dialogue that falls into Stephanie Meyer territory? Hell, how can talent? Even if somehow Leo Dicaprio had been conned into playing Anakin, I don't think he could have chewed his way through those lines. The love affair of Anakin and Padme never justified itself, it was there simply because it was there, shoehorned into the script like so many giant mechanical spiders. 3. How and why Anakin fell to the Dark Side. As bad as #2 is, this is Star Wars, not Casablanca, I can forgive bad romance if we get to the point. The ENTIRE justification for even making the prequels was to show Anakin's descent from Jedi hero into dark madness. What do we get? "Only I can save your wife...errrr but only one guy has done it and technically I can't, but I bet if you and me get together on this we can work it out." And Anakin goes "fuck it, anything you say" instead of calling bullshit and attacking Palpatine. Palpatine had just admitted he didn't know what the fuck he was doing and Padme was due to give birth in like, what a month, which is when according to vision she would die? Yes, Anakin is supposed to be a confused 20 year old with superpowers and parental issues. He's also been training for over a decade with fucking magic monks like Yoda who push wisdom at every turn. Ugh. And don't get me wrong...I watch the prequels without regret, and I don't hate them. But they fell way, way short, and not just in the way that a 25 year old (as I was when TPM came out) gets deflated by overhyping something he loved since he was capable of cognizant thought. The prequels can be fixed. Overdub and "edit" Jar Jar. Change "Nooooooo" to a raw, distorted, wordless cry of anguish (similar to Arnold calling out the Predator) Maybe a couple other things. It's too bad we can't go back and change that "Paolo" bullshit from TPM to Padme admitting to a teenage crush on Obi-Wan. Now THAT would be a reason for Anakin to try and fuck up his shit. Ah well. I've spent wayyyy too much time on this subject. Like 34 years. BUT, I guess that's a tribute to the passion we've felt for these fucking things. I love Star Wars. But like drunk uncle Bob, I wish they could be a little more like I remember them, before I went and grew up and saw the flaws.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    For the HD Original OT I'd pay $100

    by 900LBGorilla

    For this I am paying $0.00

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:41 a.m. CST

    the 9th disc, docs and spoofs, is wasted space

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i just sat through it - the docs are nothing i haven't seen before and the spoofs were an embarrassment - like a last ditch effort to fill disc space - imagine all the really cool stuff that could've filled that 9th bluray - or, this could've just been an 8 disc set for $20 less - but then, even the stuff on the other 2 bonus discs isn't all that amazing - i actually dozed off trying to sit through it all - most of those deleted scenes were best kept buried - what happened to all the finished deleted scenes from the prequel dvds? - those in hd wouldve been cool - or all the docs from the prequel dvds - it all confirms what i started suspecting a few days ago - this whole set was rushed - and not made with the original fans in mind - that 9th disc is for people with a passing interest in SW, not real fans - when you look at the LOTR ext. set and what that offers in comparison to this set, its kinda shameful - even the packaging for this set smacks of disinterest in giving SW fans something cool - the art on the cover box and interior sleeves is amateur hour and the discs themselves are all but blank - its all boring - the Planet of the Apes bluray set blows it out of the water - im beginning to wish i just bought the 2 trilogies separately without the bonus discs and ate the difference in cost - i doubt ill sit through those "special" features again - Zach Snyder poured more into his 2nd 300 bluray release than Lucas gave us here - im kinda pissed - i expected more for $80 - i was kinda led to think id get more

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    darth macchio, you are absolutely right...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i felt that same way when Boba Fett died so ridiculously - after waiting 3 years (all through high school) to see him again and kick some ass or at least be part of the story - it seems that whatever it is that fans find very cool in SW agitates Lucas because those are the things he can't take full credit for - you have to remember he gets all the credit when SW is mentioned zeitgeist-wise, like it all poured out of just him - the truth is, his army of artists created that sandbox - he just rubber stamps what he likes then it goes into production

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 3:44 a.m. CST




  • Sept. 21, 2011, 4:09 a.m. CST

    jim cameron the aicn idol god....

    by emeraldboy

    cannot not write dialog to save his life.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Oh, well, if the closed captioning says so

    by bah

    Because far be it from Lucas to change anything to make it look "better". Or for the captioning to be wrong, because captioning is always dead-on perfect.

  • Exactly! He sucks it too in that department. T2 is some of the worst, but Titantic is the worst.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Oh, well, if the closed captioning says so

    by ZodNotGod

    It says all the other lines correctly why would it not suddenly for that line? Because fatty fanboys need to dig the shit out their ears.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    The cult of Boba Fett is lame...

    by ZodNotGod

    Fett was no more than Bond bulldog henchman. Nothing more than that. A chump in a shiny outfit. This cult around him is still mind-boggling. I don't see the rage surrounding his demise. If he had been a major character; had Solo or even Lando taken the header, I'd say rage on, but he was fringe at most, window dressing. Raging about him is like crying about Odd Job getting electrocuted. I have read somewhere Lucas wanted to film his escape, but did'nt have the time or something...not sure if that's true. I had the toys too, he made a cool villain, but when he took a header in the sand vag, that was a awesome! Bad guys deserve to die. I don't tend to glom onto the bad guys, just me though.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Err...the original cut of BLADE RUNNER...

    by Motoko Kusanagi WITHOUT the narration, Harry. And that the original cuts of STAR WARS are still not available, well, sucks ass. Pretty mightily.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    The originals ARE available....bit torrents say so!

    by ZodNotGod

    If you don't go this route, continue to complain and look like a fool. That is all.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    and cameron the aicn idol god also

    by emeraldboy

    said that ridley scott ruined alien but putting back into to that movie the cocoon sequence. actually there is one scene that the studio cut which is really creepy and that is the alien transmission. very creepy shit...

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    and dont forget...

    by ZodNotGod

    And sorry to say, Jim is responsible for the single worst child performance- ever. Worse than Jake Loyd. Way worse, far worse. Little, ugly Eddie Furlong, who looks to be the next OD. T2 is a terrible flick. Action wise, great, acting, except eddie, decent. The rest....eesh.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    so what people here are saying is

    by emeraldboy

    they want lucas to release the original movies. the ones without the cgi enhancement, take out all the scenes that lucas wanted to put in but that fox didnt want him too? Lucas did not have complete control of star wars prior to the prequels..... now he does..... all of the money he made via the merchandise allowed him the financial clout to go back to fox and make the prequels.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST

    rem are no more

    by emeraldboy

    after 31 years rem have split up.... no joke....

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    rem are no more

    by emeraldboy

    We have always been a band in the truest sense of the word. Brothers who truly love, and respect, each other. We feel kind of like pioneers in this--there's no disharmony here, no falling-outs, no lawyers squaring-off. We've made this decision together, amicably and with each other's best interests at heart. The time just feels right.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    REM split? Awesome more whining!

    by ZodNotGod

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    here is the full statement

    by emeraldboy

    We have always been a band in the truest sense of the word. Brothers who truly love, and respect, each other. We feel kind of like pioneers in this--there's no disharmony here, no falling-outs, no lawyers squaring-off. We've made this decision together, amicably and with each other's best interests at heart. The time just feels right.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    what is wrong the talkback

    by emeraldboy

    U2 are left. they are inferior to u2 in every way.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    What people are actually saying is...

    by ZodNotGod

    They want the altered, unaltered versions of the originals. Complete with 2 channel stereo sound!

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    That REM news is a kick in the fucking nuts

    by proevad

    Their last CD was one of their top 3. Knew something was up when they decided not to tour it--but this still fucking sucks.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    the unaltered, original star wars movies

    by emeraldboy

    if you want to know how far thinking george lucas was. he knew that star wars would have to be re updated to play on the new technology. he has to keep star wars re updated. what lucas is doing is connecting up the saga not killing it or raping. and i do think he will hand it over to other filmmakers eventually. all this will lead up to Star Wars 50th Birthday.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    This bullshit is why torrents exist

    by Jason

    I'm going to make my own fucking box set with the theatrical editions, complete holiday special, ewok movies, and every documentary ever released. Verbatim will be getting my money (for blank discs) instead of Lucasfilm. Look, I don't hate Lucas either. But his choices over the past 15-20 years have led me to reconsider how much of the original trilogy's success can truly be attributed to him. Sure, he came up with the characters and the story, but after that I think the collaborative process won out. Certainly where Empire is concerned, we owe some, if not most, of our gratitude to Kasdan, Kurtz, and Kershner, right?

  • Hey, let's update 2001: A Space Odyssey, 'cause like those visual effects are like totally outdated. Let's replace them with CGI spaceships and shit like that. Also, what the fuck was going on at the end? Maybe George Lucas can add shit that like totally explains the ending and stuff.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST


    by Keith

    3 and 6 are roughly on a par. Not good, not terrible. Phantom Menace is cretinously awful.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    The Ultimate Star Wars List Right Here!!!

    by GravyAkira

    Bear in mind im talking the original non special editions in this list. 1. Star Wars : A New Hope(Old Obi-Wan, Han shooting first, Everything Han says, Vader being badass, Death Star Battle.) 2. The Empire Strikes Back(Asteroid chase, John Williams music at its best, Yoda cracking jokes, Boba Fett, Vader swinging like a mad man at Luke) 3. Return of the Jedi( Jabba Palace,The Space battle at the end is incredible, Love the original Ewok song and Vader's silent redemption) 4. Revenge of The Sith(Great lightsaber fights, but greatly disappointed in Anakin's reasons for turning to the dark side) 5. The Phantom Menace( Still love Obi-Wan and Kwi-Gon's entrance. And the pod race. And Darth Maul. But a huge disappointment considering I thought this was going to be the best movie ever made) 6. Attack of The Clones(As bad as Star Wars gets. I really dont like this movie that much. This was a chance for Anakin to show us what we all dreamed of in the "best fighter pilot in the galaxy" and being a "good friend to Obi-Wan". Instead just a boring ass movie with anti-climactic lightsaber battle at the end. Yoda didnt show off until Revenge of the Sith. The biggest disappointment in the Prequels is the lack of other Jedi's screen time. I want more Mace Windu and Yoda. Not sorry ass Jedi who get killed in 5 seconds. And why not show some Jedi fights inside the temple when Anakin finally does turn to the dark side? We just get a shot of him about to kill little kids. I want Jedi fights inside the temple!!! Thats just a couple of the huge amount of wishes unfulfilled by the Prequels. The Original Trilogy still rules though! Later guys

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Star Wars is completely undeserving...

    by Chadley BeBay

    ...of the praise our culture has heaped on it. The first one is a cool film. The 2nd one is pretty awesome. The 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th are TERRIBLE TERRIBLE MOVIES. Everything besides those 2 original movies is SHIT. Really bad SHIT. I'm not biased by nostalgia, so for me its a no brainer. All things Star Wars, by a MAJORITY are terrible. Thusly I must say on behalf of many generations too blinded by nostalgia, too scared to admit it, or just plain fucking idiotic: STAR WARS SUCKS. STAR. WARS. FUCKING. SUCKS.

  • Sept. 21, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    chadley bebay

    by proevad

    +1 Jedi wasn't quite as bad as the prequels but it sure as hell wasn't good. Shatner was right this week when he said Star Trek was better than Star Wars. More great things have come out of Star Trek than Star Wars. Not that Star Trek hasn't had it's share of shit too, but it's hit a lot more than it's missed. Anyway, good post.

  • check out all the pics and info here on

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    George lost me at "Noooooo" in ROTJ

    by Razorback

    I was already on the fence but that finished Star Wars for me for good.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Sorry, but

    by smatt584

    Picked up the full bluray collection and was immediately reminded that shitty stop-motion is just as jarring and distracting as shitty cgi, and there was already a lot of shitty stop motion and puppets in the originals. Stop being so overly dramatic about the added material. If anything, George should have tweaked more. With today's tech and how much he's charging for the new collection (sale price is still $87), he should have fixed ALL the crappy outdated effects. The movies are still classic cinema. Now where the fuck are my Indiana Jones blurays George?

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 2:57 a.m. CST

    I loved Star Wars before anyone...

    by aleph_null

    ...even Lucas himself, and I don't believe I would want to watch any of the movies now, remixed or original, let alone sift through a bunch of cut footage just for nostalgia's sake, life is happening right now, and it's much more interesting. But I will commend you, that is a really long write-up to skim through, congrats.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Someone needs to make a fan edit of the OT...

    by aleph_null

    ..cut all the fat and make one lean, mean 3 hour masterpiece, now that I'd watch

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 4:05 a.m. CST

    In some shots, I can see through Vader's mask ...

    by nico_laos

    ... in A NEW HOPE. Fucking amazing. That right there should tell you how awesome the HD transfer is. Fuck your problems with the special editions. Star Wars is on BluRay!

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    One of the funniest things I've seen a long time is the old commericals for the Star WArs toys, look on youtube. Ricky Shroeder is in one and at the end he says, "Good Dewback." Thought it was hilarious that the Stormtroopers, after having burnt the Lars homestead would take time to coddle his beast of burden...haha.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Fucking Christ stop throwing around "boycott"

    by Larry Sellers

    Just because you don't want to buy/do/take part in something doesn't mean you've boycotted it. I boycott eating olives because I hate them.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    More Blu-Rays

    by Parallaxmjm

    There will be another set, of the 3D blu rays at least since Lucas has already discussed some of the changes or additions he's making to the movies as they get released into theatres again. Phantom Menace is going to have Dooku in it a bunch, setting up his fall and him taking over for Sifo-Dyas. Vader's spirit is going to visit Yoda's on Dagobah before they all appear on Endor in ROTJ, among other changes. So since these aren't in the box set that just came out (I am assuming none of the Phantom Menace stuff is in there, since I only watched the end of Jedi so far), there has to be another set coming down the road.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    This argument goes back decades, and you're missing a point...

    by Jay Eyler

    In the 80's when they started colorizing old films, traditionalists went apeshit. But what they didn't seem to realize, and had to be explained to them is... the original films are not ruined. They were merely making a colorized copy. Same with Star Wars. It's not as if the original film doesn't exist. It just isn't being re-released in the blu ray format you want. So if you don't want the blu because you don't like the SE, that's your choice. But tweaking and altering the latest offerings, while annoying, is not altering the original films. They still exist. So, be pissed that the theatrical release isn't available in blu, but that doesn't mean the originals have been destoryed.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    parallaxmjm ...

    by nico_laos

    Give us a source, please. I just spent the better part of 20 mins looking for the changes you've written about, and have found nothing.

  • the old "shitty effects" and "jarring stop motion" you mentioned are part of what makes SW "classic cinema" - i guess you hate ray harryhausen's movies and the original king kong too - damn kids

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    my last post was directed at "smatt584" - not "razorback"

    by JimmyJoe RedSky


  • Sept. 22, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST


    by smatt584

    Don't be overly dramatic. I liked Star Wars even before the updates or else I obviously would not have dropped almost $90 on the blurays. What I said is that updating special effects that can be updated (such removing the halos on the ships flying against mat paintings, and even putting the scenes back in that were only removed for budgeting reasons with completed effects) does not bother me. If someone were to say that Ray Harryhousen went back and made his stop motion creatures move more life like and naturally; are you saying you would boycott him? My only issues with Lucas are 1) not making the originals available for purists. That just seems like a no-brained, just like the different versions of Blade Runner (and i notice that nobody bitches about the footage that Ridley Scott reshot and corrected), it seems like good business to sell the originals separately and make more money. And 2) fucking with the Star Wars movies he himself did not direct. I don't necessarily like many of the changes but at the same time, so many Star Wars fanboys have become so obsessed with the movies that they like to pretend they have some god given right to them. Lucas is not surgically mangling your children, just making his movies more like he originally intended. I can understand people wanting the originals, just not all the stupid whining about the new versions. Just as mentioned before by another poster, he's not burning the original negatives or anything, he just isn't selling the HD versions. Yet.

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Me and Star Wars...

    by psykomyko

    Harry, you shared our generation's feelings about Star Wars much better than I ever could... I posted a link to this article in a post on my own site about how Star Wars helped me meet my now-wife: Hope you like!

  • Sept. 22, 2011, 9:21 p.m. CST

    I could see through the mask on my black and white TV

    by proevad

    when I was a kid with the VHS tape.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Or is V better than IV?

    by GravyAkira

    I guess it depends on how im feelin. Episode II still sucks really bad though!

  • Try it out, report back with your results.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST

    So much for your precious boycott! HA!

    by ZodNotGod

    Variety is reporting that Star Wars has sold more than one million units in only a week on the markiet, shattering records for the high-definition format, and further cementing Blu-ray's dominance as the home video format of choice. Despite an average list price of $79.99, the nine disc set generated more than $84 million in worldwide sales. U.S. sales accounted for $38 million of that total, with 515,000 units sold in North America. --- this is great. Per usual, the nerd rage is ignored.

  • I did! Luke says, "Heeey!" Both with and without the closed captioning. Again I say, why would ALL the other lines be recorded exactly as we hear them, yet suddenly not this one where you think he says "Carrie?" Makes no sense. He doesn't say Carrie no matter how badly you want it. Let it go.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    smatt584, i was being snarky - but...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    as an artist, you cant or shouldnt go back and try to fix everything youve done in your past - art is a reflection of the period its created in - even timeless art - like SW or Casablanca - if Lucas wants to cretae continuityhe can make the blaster bolts (hand weapons, not ships) look like the ones in the prequels - theyre very different in each trilogy - Harryhausen would never retouch his work - his beef with cgi is its too life like - it removes the artists hand and takes away from the viewers suspension of disbelief - it hurts the fantastic-quality - all that being said, i too am addicted to SW and will keep buying all the movies and junk - but i can disagree with how SW is handled by its owner - we are on the same page brro

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    fixes, changes and all that jazz

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    -How to solve everything by jumping151 and I'm not fucking kidding: digitize the offending disks at full res. Re-edit them yourselves. I plan on fixing the end of Jedi (no scream "nooo" and removing Greedo shooting 1st with After Effects from ANH) Then just burn new blu ray disk. This is a lot easier than you think. Fuck GL. He can change his movies, it's his right. I can change them too.- Agreed.....I'm all for fan edits or personal versions. Especially at this point when the creator himself has changed things so many times.

  • Especially the one I've done to II that takes the ending of the Donner cut; the teary goodbye with Lois, loses the memory kiss, keeps the bully and the White House ending. NO time travel crap. It's surprisingly scary how easy these edits can be done. Some are good, some are awful, most are clueless, but the skills on display are impressive.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    After doing an edit, what file format do I use? One that doesn't compress too much?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Blu-rays sold like gangbusters thus they must be good

    by Jason

    Welcome to the Fox News standard of quality.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    The blu-rays sold because people wanted their Star Wars!

    by ZodNotGod

    And no one gives a fuck about a two-second sound bite of NOOO or the rest of the insignificant changes.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST


    by la_sith

    "HA HA! You nerdz are being ignored! No one cares! It moved a million copeez! Star Wars on blu-ray is teh awsum! People wanted duh Star Warz!" You fucking moron sheep. No one really thought that the set wouldn't sell.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    HAHAHA suck it haters. biggest seller in the history of blu ray.

    by Gordon Bombay

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST


    by steve

    Amen Brother. Amen.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    @dogsoup THAT IS THE QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!! LMFAO!!! :)

    by marineboy

    Just great ;)

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    by Relugus

    It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force... but by our skills with a lightsaber.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    George the Auteur

    by Relugus

    George Lucas thinks Kerschner and Marquand's work is not good enough for his collector's edition. What a way for an artist to treat his fellow artists. I suspect GL started to believe the idiots who believed he was the sole creative force behind Star Wars, the people who think Lucas designed all the ships (McQuarrie), advised on the editing (Marcia), wrote the scripts (Kasdan), produced the film and steered it (Kurtz), ad-libbed great dialogue (Ford), produced amazing visuals (Dykstra). I hope when GL dies someone will digitally "enhance" him to the point that all people will know is the CGI Lucas. GL is auteur theory gone horribly wrong.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    @gordon bombay you missed the point

    by KilliK

    we dont give a fuck about the sales of the BR SW it was not going to be huge.What we give a fuck about is the OTT to be released remastered in the BR format.that's all.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST

    killik, if that was your objective, thats fine, but...

    by Gordon Bombay

    There were most definitely some people on here talking about boycotting it and talking as if they honestly thought they would have an effect on sales numbers. Which is just beyond stupid. I love the current versions, could care less if the OTT are ever released.

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 7:40 p.m. CST

    More like 5 46 1 3 2.

    by angry_spacboy

  • Here are the ONLY changes to episodes IV-VI that I can honestly say I didn't like at all: 1. Han shoots first 2. Vader's NOOO in Jedi Changes that I personally have no problem with, but can see why they annoy some people: 1. Boba's new voice 2. hayden force ghost Changes that are pretty obviously for the better: 1. Ian emperor in Empire 2. new end of jedi music and multi-planet celebration 3. all of the many fixed up special effects and error fixes throughout all 3 films What do you think of my lists?

  • Sept. 23, 2011, 9:56 p.m. CST

    I think he started to say Carrie and turned it into a hey

    by proevad

    but that's just me. Cayyyy.

  • So much for pathetic 'fan' boycotts and limp-wristed online rebelling and complaining about nothing.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Well I bought Them And I'm Glad!

    by Real Deal

    They look great on Bluray. I've bought many versions over the years ( tape laserdisc DVD etc. ) and this is the closest I've had to that " In the theater " feeling I got so many years ago. And really that's why you buy a movie you've already seen in the theater. So you can get as close to that experience that made you excited about the movie in the first place. The changes really aren't enough to bother me and the set has sold 84 million dollars so far making it the best selling Bluray ever. Is " Noooooo! " necessary? Probably not in my view but it wasn't enough of a change to ruin it for me. The others compared to what he did in 1997 are so small they don't ruin it for me rither.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    The Changes...

    by ZodNotGod

    THE only one I do not care for is the Greedo/Han thing. I didn't notice it however until a few days after seeing it, someone online mentioned it. Go figure. As for the rest, I dig: Hayden's Ghost- Yep! Makes sense! He WAS Anakin for 4 hours of SW story time. The old man was Anakin for roughly 3 minutes total? HAD the prequels not been made, fine. He stays, but since the prequels were, Hayden is Anakin and from a dramatic standpoint it works better to see the youngster redeemed we have become familar with than the old man barely on screen and since he died young in the Force as a Jedi, (Return of...) NOT as an old man as a Sith, makes sense. Let us not forget the religious stuff about the after life and the hereafter when a person makes the transition, they are restored to their pristine, younger self, not as an ugly, withered old man. If anyone has problems with the kid's acting it's pathetic sour grapes at this point so really, cram it.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Kurtz is an asshole!

    by ZodNotGod

    he was fired for not doing his job. Seriously, fuck him with a chainsaw.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Here's some cool advice....

    by ZodNotGod

    A friend of mine told me this yesterday. Watch them in this order. 4 & 5. After 5 we learn that Vader is a Skywalker- 1,2,3 and then 6.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Harry had a college education?!?!!!

    by Mike J

    Holy shit, thats the biggest shock of all. All these years I just assumed he was a yokel but clearly the problem is actually biological.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    zod, complete agreement with you about the hayden force ghost

    by Gordon Bombay

    I love seeing him at the end of jedi, ties everything together.

  • Sept. 24, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Why does Lucas keep tampering with the movies?

    by daglesj

    Because he knows he cant do anything else worth a damn. He got lucky with Star Wars and has coasted on others talent ever since. When he plucked up the courage to do the prequals it was very apparent that any form of decent creative and directorial talent had long since left the building. Surround yourself with 'yes men' that are paid to keep telling you that you are great.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Original? Whatever!

    by mrorange90

    No where on this bluray is the true original trilogy! that is why i wont buy it. also there is nothing good what so ever about 1-3. never will be. my trilogy i had on vhs that finally gave way to rot i threw away. i will never buy anything star wars dvd or blu ray until he releases what all fans want, and not what a 5 year old wants to see,,,thats what clone wars is for

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:02 a.m. CST

    The only change that is missing now is Brian Cox's head

    by KilliK

    when Luke removes Vader's mask.that's all.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Lucas is the pimp who gets his money from his whores: the fans.

    by KilliK

    that's all the truth you need to know about this specific's sad really.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by Relugus

    At the end of Return of the Jedi, Luke should see Vader as he remembered him, as he knew him, hence the older guy. He never knew the young Annakin, which is why the change at the end of Jedi is stupid. Its a case of Lucas trying to give his lame prequels credibility by tying them into the superior original trilogy. Really, Episode 1 we should have seen a teenage Annakin, then in Episode 2 in his twenties, then for Episode 3 in his thirties. His decline should have had a slow, steady arc, not suddenly turning against the Jedi because Palpatine promised him something vague. His turn to the dark side should have been fueled by the murky, amoral decisions that often come with war; starting out as a pure, noble hero, but then losing his way when confronted with hard choices. But Lucas can't write that kind of stuff so he just shoves in a McGuffin explanation for Annakin's turn.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Something vague?

    by ZodNotGod

    When people die they don't return as their older, broken, sick self. They return as their younger prime self. Anakin's soul died when he was younger and he is RETURNING from when he was a JEDI. Not a Sith.

  • Sept. 25, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    gordon bombay

    by ZodNotGod

    Cool! It's awesome to have 6 films to enjoy instead of logging on everyday to bitch and complain about shit 99% of everyone else could give a fuck about. The changes do not affect or nullify the whole. Merely details...added more details. Move along, lil haters, move along....

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Bombay, Zod re: Hayden's Ghost.

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    The reason it doesn't work at all is because it sends the message that no matter how much genocide you commit, it's all ok if you do a minor act of redemption at the end. Not only that, but you get your youth back. I always hated the fact Anakin's ghost was there at all, but you get younger as well now? Even worse. If I made a fan edit, I'd just have Yoda and Obi-Wans ghost. The redemption itself and the funeral pyre is as good as Anakin should get it, tbh.

  • A burning in agony projection of him inserted next to Yoda would be fine.

  • the opening scene of transformers 3 lays complete waste to the entire Starwars saga.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST

    In fact. Transformers 3

    by UltraTron

    has the best visual effects in movie history all throughout. Each scene is pretty much a fuck you- look what we can do now scene. If the academy doesn't recognize it and award it best visual effects- oh wait they no fucking credibility anymore so who cares

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Bombay, Zod re: Hayden's Ghost.

    by ZodNotGod

    I take it your not a Catholic? Because that religion is riddled with all kinds of redemption stuff just like this. Actually, the Force isn't Heaven, even though there are aspects that are similar, but ok. If a child molestor, murderer, serial killer and rapist can achieve redemption in our real spirtual religion, (or just a life sentence and not the death sentence they deserve) than I think Anakin can get a pass in the fake world.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Why would you be dumb enough to think Vader was cool?

    by ZodNotGod

    Why would you support a bad guy? Unless of course you think Hitler is an misunderstood madcap?

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST

    However, since we are now talking religion...

    by ZodNotGod

    Some of the most devout people that I know, believe that no matter how awful your behavior is on Earth, no matter how vile, if sincere and truly remorseful, you can achieve redemption. It's not an entirley made up concept.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    You're right. He does it to stay relevant. American Graffiti and Star Wars ANH (his only good films) were too damn hard to make. I think the guy was an artist who didn't want to suffer through the agony of making something worthwhile. It's hard being great. The man is lazy.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    zod, I was raised a catholic

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    but I've not been a practising Catholic since I was 14, and while I know what you say is technically true - it's not something the Catholic Church tends to use as an example of their faith as far as I'm aware: 'do whatever you want and as long as you say you're sorry in the end, all is forgiven'. I think that's probably simplifying it a little too much. I doubt any Catholic priest would agree if you used genocide as an example. Regardless though, It's still not a good message in a hero's journey family movie whether it exists as a concept in the real world or not. Scientology exists too, but I don't think we should be exploring its 'values' as part of a blockbuster family movie.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    zod re: vader being cool

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    Why does that make anyone dumb to think Vader is cool? People who have more than half a braincell tend to think of good villains as cool because they are more interesting and less one-dimensional characters. Boba Fett, The Emperor and Darth Maul are all cool too. Fett and Maul more because of their potential - they let your imagination run wild.

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Anakin was redeemed, but he paid for his redemption with his life

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    as far as the rest of the galaxy was concerned, he died as Vader the villain and guilty as ever - only he and Luke knew that he came back to the light side of the force - Vader died somewhere between lying on his back with a severed hand and grabbing Palpatine by the spine - Anakin Skywalker died on the ramp of that shuttle while the deathstar was falling apart

  • Sept. 26, 2011, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Harry on Star Wars Blu-Ray

    by Jim

    Thanks for the article Harry. Star Wars had the same effect on me...turned me into a movie buff. To this day I still get goose bumps when John Williams' score begins and the STAR WARS logo fills the screen and the crawl begins.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Re: zod, I was raised a catholic

    by ZodNotGod

    That's exactly what Catholics exspouse or at least the ones I've known. Why else do those Priests rape alter boys? 5 hail marys, and all is good. Actually, I have an Uncle who is Baptist, and he is of the faith that believes, once you are saved, always saved. Meaning, no matter how far you fall you are saved. I don't believe that, faith and being saved is a constant, evolving relationship that needs nurturing. If I transgress, I have to make up for it. Seriously though, I think you are going too deep. As, jimmyjoe redsky said, he paid for his sins with his life. We have to exclude any notion of "Heaven" exists since Luke is seeing only dead Jedis. He was technically not himself and possessed by the demon known as the Dark Side and not of his own mind. "Reason of Insanity" if you will.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    Without going too deep, the message sent is still a good one, that you can't go through this world doing bad things and not pay for it somehow, i.e. Anakin paying with his life.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 9:45 a.m. CST

    i hate my parents.

    by ieatgarbage

    let me jerk off before dinner please. that is all.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 10:24 a.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    by I'm_Bigger_Than_Bane

    The problem with the prequels was that Lucas forsaked characterisation and story for appalling special effects and comedy characters. Someone here cited Attack of the Clones as the best film in the franchise. Personally, I think it is the worst. The romantic dialogue is cringeworthy and the performances are wooden. The slapstick comedy scenes where C3PO has his head replaced with another droid is painfully contrived and then the whole picture denigrates into the most overblown episode of Babylon 5 ever made. Yoda should not fight. All the mystique vanished and it looked ridiculous. The most heinous crime, however, was the waste of Christopher Lee who had the potential to become the best villain in the prequels. The problem is that Lucas needed to be restrained. In the original trilogy, his "creativity"was tempered by a small budget and this made him focus on character. Special effects detract from the story. It was an absolute travesty that the prequels were so laden with below par CGI. The opportunity to tell the story of Anakin's fall to the carmaker could have been a modern classic. Still, at least some of the books released since the original trilogy are very good.

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    by I'm_Bigger_Than_Bane

    Carmaker in my post above should be dark side lol. Damn you iPad auto corrector. Damn you to Hades!! I was thinking of who could have written and directed the prequels better than Lucas. Perhaps it would have worked as a psychological drama that explored Anakin's decision to embrace the dark side and turn on his allies. His reasoning and decision making did not make sense in the third prequel. Also, the decision to have Vader scream "noooo" and clunkily invoke Frankenstein in the final scenes was not handled well. Yeah, we get it George - your audience is not stupid (for the most part).

  • Sept. 27, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Thank you for the carmaker explanation

    by proevad

    Thought I was having a stroke.

  • Sept. 28, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by la_sith

    Nothing like being lectured about immaturity by a grammatically-devoid fucking BOOB.

  • Sept. 30, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST has a good review

    by rsh0210

    We haven't really heard Harry's full thoughts on the set, so I went over to to see what Michael Paige has to say about the new blu-ray trilogy. He has an extensive part one review up.

  • Oct. 5, 2011, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Brian Cox Raped My Childhood

    by Dave

  • Oct. 5, 2011, 4:02 a.m. CST

    In the words of Schwarzenegger:

    by Dave

    "Stop whining!!!" It's still Star Wars, and it's still AWESOME AS SHIT.

  • Oct. 5, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Then you miss the point of this site

    by orcus

    Whiners Delight

  • Oct. 17, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Can someone please explain who the F Sifo Dyas is?

    by Autodidact

    All this talk about him in Clones... was he supposed to be the alter-ego of Darth Plagus?

  • Oct. 18, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    No as it turned out he was a Jedi

    by orcus

  • fdgd

  • Oct. 19, 2011, 6:34 p.m. CST


    by orcus

  • Oct. 31, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    by Josiah Rogue

    As soon as Alien came out, Star Wars was shit.

  • Oct. 31, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Subject.... what is this shitcock

    by Josiah Rogue


  • Nov. 6, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Holy Cow

    by David Warner

    This is my first time posting on AICN since 2005 or so. I'm really just testing. George Lucas raped my childhood.

  • Nov. 9, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    saga ruined

    by IndianaPeach

    so weak

  • Nov. 19, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Last after spam

    by Sean

    Thanks, Harry. You've expressed what I tried to about the whole Nooooo! thing, but with far greater eloquence. George Lucas gave us all an indelible and immeasurable gift that spurred imaginations, and personally made me read the Marvel issues of Star Wars as a kid about a thousand times. So the question is this: if someone gives us a gift, do we have the right to complain if they give us a similar gift that we like less? Or to pose it another way: If your grandmother gives a sweater to you two years in a row, do you throw the second back in her face if you don't like it? The answer is yes, if you're a spoiled child. For the rest, the answer hopefully is to treasure the gift you love the most, and not hate your grandmother for knitting more than one sweater.

  • Jan. 18, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Totally agree with Harry

    by Sean

    Just like in the Fanboys movie, I've found my Death Star! George Lucas is a genius.