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Cobra-Kai got a hold of an early copy of the STAR WARS Saga Blu-Set! And Harry has a theory about Lucasanity!

Hey folks, Harry here...   I doubt seriously that I'll be getting one of these sets in time to write extensively about it.  In fact, I'm betting I'll have to pick one up next Tuesday like the rest of ya that just can not resist.   I know folks have been wanting me to write an angry diatribe about "Fucking Lucas" and "Stop Fucking Changing Our Movies," except - I've been serially abused optically and aurally by George.   And I have a theory.   It could be insane, but one of my hobbies is collecting stories about George Lucas.   Anecdotal evidence that he isn't crazy.   His personal humor is one of "getting your goat" - a teasing manner that is meant to elicit outrage and vocal dissent.   George is passionate about film preservation, as much as any man has ever beat the drum for the preservation of our collective film history - George has done amazing things.   He's changed the cinematic film experience forever through his financing of innovations in sound and image.  SO why does George continue to pluck our shorthairs?

I believe that George feels, probably right to a degree, that most of you don't give a shit about film preservation.   NOT YOU - but those folks out there that don't even know it is an issue.   That have never experienced the censoring of the 1933 KING KONG, the re-edits of METROPOLIS or TARZAN ESCAPES.   Or that lived through studios hacking the tops and bottoms off of films to then create fake CINEMASCOPE prints of movies - most infamously losing the greatest tree in film history - you know the one - in GONE WITH THE WIND.   Well, the problem is, while George experienced this period - most of us didn't, still more of us have never really dug into the history of cinema in a manner where we would become passionate about Film Preservation.

Now George is an eccentric BILLIONAIRE - We know he has testified before Congress on this issue.  Articles quoting George as being absolutely outraged about THE VERY THING he's been doing to his film.  He defends himself with the PAINTING metaphor - about how many artists never finish paintings, just abandon them for a period of time.   And this breaks down when you point at EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI, which he isn't even the director of record.   Here, he is definitely manhandling others' work.   But why?    Why do this?  He has got to know that a lot of hardcore geeks will bow out of this release as a result, but he is well aware that the larger audience - well, they're not even aware of the problems yet.   He'll see a ton of these.  

But let's get back to the eccentric BILLIONAIRE angle.   George has STAR WARS - a series of films which have, without a doubt in my mind, the most devoted following ever.  Over the last 20 years, George has been fooling around with his films.  Essentially, every year that AICN has been around, I've had to deal with fans screaming about "Crazy ol George" - and at this point.   It no longer phases me.   I want to see his  latest tamperings.  I want to have friends over to experience it all with.  We will scream, bitch & moan - but MAINLY we'll enjoy ourselves.   There will be "WHAT THE FUCK" moments that leave us frustrated beyond words.   BUT - I also have a feeling that one day, hopefully a long time from now, the person making the decisions about this property will not always be George.   At that point, I'm convinced we'll see further explorations of the STAR WARS universe theatrically.   I also believe at that point - pristine original prints of all these films will come to be.  I have faith I'll live to see this, if not...  I just don't see the need to get absolutely outraged about it.  He has made it exceedingly clear that he's going to pursue his path.   By all means - protest by not buying if you wish.   In fact an enormous LACK of sales would be astonishing, but I'm telling you.  There is no power that would keep me from getting this set.   The supplemental material alone will melt my mind.   Just seeing the improved CG Yoda in PHANTOM MENACE over that atrocity  they previously had will be a smile.  

So here's COBRA KAI with a look at the set thus far...


Dear Harry,
Cobra--Kai here. It so happens that the Dojo recieved it's copy of the full Star Wars Blu Ray set a few hours ago. Don't ask me who I ordered from because I don't want anyone to get in trouble for sending it out so early!
I don't think there are any reviews online yet so I thought I would share my first thoughts with the AICNers...
The Blu Ray set's packaging is very slick. There's a good quality pamphlet with it called the 'Guide To The Galaxy' with a double page artwork for each of the six movies and a couple of extra artworks too (one of which shows Boba Fett riding on a dragon bucking broco style). Any one of these pictures would have been cooler than the sappy cover image they chose, but what the hey.
The first disc I checked out was the first in the set THE PHANTOM MENACE. I watched the first hour and have to say 'wow' when it comes to the transfer. The level of detail took me aback, particularly the costumes (check out the first time you see Queen Amidala, the detail on her golden headress is quite phenomenal on this blu ray). If you've got a surround sound system then suffice to say the audio is superb too. I noticed a couple of changes. Firstly the shot in which the Droid army first enters Naboo always used to look 'sun bleached' this has now been color corrected. And secondly CG Yoda. This has been well publicised and I can confirm that it's been implemented very professionally. Yoda now 'acts' along with his dialogue and gives Samuel L Jackson some looks, etc that weren't there in the puppet version.
I then looked at RETURN OF THE JEDI. I was hoping and praying that the infamous "No... NOOOOO!!!" might somehow not be there - but sadly it was. Fuuck. It's really lame. Hayden instead of Sebastian Shaw at the end too. Some people have said there are matte lines and 'boxes' around the Tie Fighters during the space battle, i'm pleased to report this is bull. The transfer is slightly more grainy and aged in comparison to TPM but it's still a big jump from the DVD.
Lastly I checked out the deleted scenes. This is what I was really looking forward to, and if you don't want to know what's in them then you should consider this SPOILER territory.
First thing I should make clear is that the deleted scenes for the Prequel Trilogy are NOT the deleted scenes included on the DVDs (in fact these scenes are absent on the Blu Ray). The DVD deleted scenes were completed and all polished up with their FX, sadly this is not the case with the scenes here. Not a single PT sequence is finished, all have FX missing or bluescreen backdrops, and several are entirely pre-visualizations without actors at all. Disappointing. One that I was looking forward to was Qui Gonn and Darth Maul fighting on the ramp, but it amounted to 6 seconds of grainy footage with a bluescreen background. You also get to see an early appearance of Bail Organa supporting the vote of no confidence in Chancellor Valorum (played not by Jimmy Smits but by some poor chap who never had his moment of fame) . For AOTC there's an extension to the library scene in which the librarian and Obi Wan look at a stone bust of Count Dooku and recieve some exposition about his background. In the ROTS section a deleted scene shows Anakin and Obi Wan slicing some Battle Droids during the Palpatine rescue and quipping "Roger Roger" to one another. We also get to see a lengthy animatic (allegedly directed by Stephen Spielberg) that shows a different version of the Obi Wan General Grievous chase. In this version it ends with Obi Wan prising open Grievous' breastplate and pulling out his internal organs to kill him - I rather liked it! Also a longer animatic version of the Wookie battle on Kashyyk which probably would have been far better than the confusing and brief sequence we actually got. Been a bit of talk about Liam Neeson recording new material but although there is a brief deleted scene of Yoda communing with Qui Gonn at the end of ROTS it's just a pre-vis animatic with a stand-in vocal - not Neeson.
The deleted scenes for the Original Trilogy are a bit more fun, and a bit more of a time capsule curio. The first on the disc is a rather long sequence (maybe 5 mins) of Luke watching the space battle through binoculars and then going to Tosche Station to tell his friends what he saw. Some parts of this are better than others but the quality is pretty terrible, faded color and scratches all over the place. The dialogue between Luke and Biggs is quite in-depth too and touches on politics in an almost PT kinda way! ESB has a lot of Wampa scenes, which look really ropey and were wisely cut. It also has a longer scene of Leia talking romantically to Luke after his recovery from the Wampa attack and nearly kissing him again - Star Wars Blu Ray now with added incest! The ROTS deleted scenes were my favorite, with the sequence of Luke tooling his lightsaber prior to Jabba's palace being the one deleted scene with completed FX. This scene did the rounds a while back but the scene on the disc plays a bit longer and you get to see Luke's X-Wing and the Millenium Falcon parked side by side near to the cave where Luke is hiding out. There's a scene with a sandstorm that would have played after Han's rescue in which Han thanks Luke and Luke explains he has to go to Dagobah. Again a nice scene but with faded color and unfinished sound. The best scene shows an extra bit of Stormtrooper blasting on Endor as Han and the rebels break into the Imperial shield generator, it ends with the Imperial officer saying "You Rebel Scum!" and Han puts his hand on his hips and replies with mock-hurt "scum?". Loved it! We also get to see some Female rebel pilots in the cockpit being fed dialogue lines at the Death Star battle - terrible, terrible, terrible, only watch it if you want to laugh.
I'm looking forward to watching the 6 films properly again. They've always been detail-rich movies and that really comes across in eye-popping form on Blu Ray. Just a shame about that Nooooooo...
Lots of love to all you crazy guys,
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  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Cobra Kai does not exist in this dojo

    by UGG


  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Thus spake Cobra--Kai

    by AsimovLives

    Good show, ol' chap.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Koo Stark

    by fred

    Is her scene included?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure I trust anyone

    by VarianceMFFilms

    Who gets a bluray set of Star Wards and puts in Phantom Menace first, followed by Jedi...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    What a bunch of bullshit

    by SmokingRobot

    George is just an idiot. Can you say 'Jar Jar'? Have you FUCKING SEEN THE PREQUELS? So don't give me this long, rambing, half-baked bullshit about GL's master-plan. There isn't one. He's a soulless film-maker who early on benefited from other's talent to make a ton of money and a big name. And what has he done with that running start in life? Flushed it down the fucking toilet.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Lucas raped his own child, SWs and not my childhood!

    by Roketopunch

    Creation rapist!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    People are gonna be really pleased with TPM

    by magnetoelectric

    It was shot on this weird thing called "Film" :P Honestly and all kidding aside, its never looked better. There were moments like The princesses raid to capture the Viceroy that made my eyes pop.Almost like seeing it for the first time again FTR : All three prequels have audio "alterations" too. None of which anyone can really complain about

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Lucas couldn't make so much money if it wasn't for all of you

    by Mennen

    He'll keep cranking these out until he's dead and you'll never be satisfied.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I always thought it was Scorsese who was Mr. Film

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    Preservation...not The Neck.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Replacing Shaw with Hayden is where I draw the line...

    by Ryan


  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Some poor chap

    by MrDexter

    Adrian Dunbar is not some poor chap. 'Hear My Song' rules.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the review Cobra

    by theDORK

    I won't be buying it...just not interested in quadruple or quintuple dipping at this time. Not a passionate George-hater, either. Don't like the "Noooooo!" addition, but whatever. I'll wait for the Cranial Download Super Special Editions in 2023.

  • And it's got nothing to do with the changes...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Lucas Isn't Eccentric...

    by Read and Shut Up

    ...he's a money-grubbing, revisionist asshole who can't leave well enough alone. So, he makes well enough (actually, great) really shitty. Thanks George. And suck it - I won't spend one dime for these.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I'm not gonna bitch and moan about it ...

    by OhWhatTheFeckEver

    I'm just going to say ... I'm tired. Tired of buying Star Wars over and over again. Tired of the arguments about the changes. Tired of the whole 'raped my childhood' analogies. Simple fact of the matter is, I've spent enough money on Star Wars. I'll stick with the dvd's. Yes, the blu's are going to look amazing. Yes, the sound will be tremendous. But it's not enough for me to shell out yet MORE money on the same thing ... again. To end my two cents, here's a quick pic of what I think ...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Hayden already replaced Shaw as the ghost...

    by StarWarsRedux

    ...are you saying Shaw is gone entirely from the film, or just repeating that old change? I'd think that Hayden being inserted during the unmasking scene would be a waaaaay bigger thing to complain about than a mere "No" or two.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Lucas saved ROTJ with 'Nooooooo'

    by tomdolan04

    Up until then, I was a bit confused as to what was happening. Was Vader struggling as to what to do by looking back and to between the Emperor and Luke? The 'Nooooo' clarification worked a treat. <p> At this point George surely must realize he's past parody as a film-maker? I would have respected him more if he'd gone the whole hog and included the Plinkett/Red Letter Media series of PT reviews on this Blu Ray box set.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Shaw wasnt replaced in the unmasking scene

    by magnetoelectric

    Rest assured

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Cobra Kai DOES exist in this dojo...

    by Billyeveryteen

    Nicely done, padawan.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Not gonna purchase it.

    by Shaun1138

    I am done giving Lucas my money.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I've heard a rumour...

    by RobinP

    that the infamous Holiday Special is an easter egg on the Bluray release. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    The deleted scenes from the prequels aren't even on this set?

    by Mattman

    The more I hear about this, the better I feel about cancelling my preorder.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    didn't kenobi pull out the organs?


    or did he just shoot the heart/gut/thing? fuck if i remember. i haven't watched the prequels but once all the way through and then in spurts if they happen to be on TV in the background.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    So Harry...what you're saying is...

    by Horgy

    That George Lucas, by virtue of being "eccentric," is allowed to fuck with us, because we (and you) are going to throw money at him, no matter what. He keeps tampering with a cultural icon because what, he's "teaching us a lesson about film preservation?" He's showing us firsthand how truly awful fucking around with movies can be, just to prove the point that he testified about in front of Congress, when he talked about how art has to be preserved? And that when all the trolling is over, he'll finally release the "perfect" visions of his Magnum Opus, with nothing more than beautiful sound, fixed errors and cleaned-up matte boxes, as well as every deleted scene, every bit of TV, every interview, every "making of," every piece of photography, text, print media, art, fan art, and every possible version of the movies, along with the Holiday Special and those Ewok movies (which will still have people complaining, but I digress..)<p> Wow, man. I hope you're right. But if you are, then 3 things: First, George is an asshole for trolling us for the last 14 years (since the SE's.) Second, he's an asshole again for making us drop a whole bunch of money to buy his movies again and again and again (although as a pure moneymaker he's a fucking genius) and third, boy, did he prove his point. His tinkering with Star Wars has probably done as much for the internet as porn. We fans have prayed, worshipped, cursed and damned at the altar of Lucas since the 70's. <p> Perhaps, like what happened with Palpatine, we'll see George's "big picture" and find it in our hearts to forgive him, and maybe as a society we'll have learned something about preserving art. George, we love your movies, and perhaps you love us back, but damn...tough love, man.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, everyone should boycott "Columbiana" because...

    by ufoclub1977

    it keeps taking over your browser!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Star Wars Is Just A Business

    by THX1968

    I don't think Lucas is crazy, and I don't think he raped my childhood. I remember how fun it was to go see the Special Editions, and then scratch my head in confusion over the total re-edit of Star Wars. And yes, it is a total re-edit when a primary character's arch is altered (Han - Greedo shoots first). However, I'm pretty much done with Star Wars. The endless screwing around with the Original Trilogy is indeed psychotic, made moreso by the refusal to release the originals (non anamorphic bonus dvds don't count). Now don't be fooled by people that say they can't make an HD version of the OT because the material isn't there. Every frame of the OT was scanned into a computer for the Special Editions from the late 90's. All I know is that I can live without this "Ultimate" set, and I can live without the prequels. Not a hater, but I can live without them. The dvd's I have will suffice until I get what I want. Star Wars stopped being a series of awesome movies in 1983. It became a business shortly thereafter. Star Wars is a business.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    The only Star Wars DVD I ever bought were laser disc transfers from eBay

    by American Mythos

    Back before the official DVD's were released. I will be buying these Blu-Rays, enjoying them, and shaking my head in embarrassment for George at the appropriate moments. Especially when the commanding statesmanlike aura of Sebastian Shaw is replaced by the giddy schoolboy aura of Hayden Christensen next to Obi-Wan and Yoda. Good call on that one, George.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Theories do not exist in this dojo


    Fucking professional cobes...not that I expected anything less

  • they want to showcase this as a 'special event' release hence the Friday release date

  • I mean...what do you fucking want? The other guy was never seen in his normal, young state except for being a ghost. You only see him as a scarred up mongoloid. You guys act like his ghost was iconic. The CHARACTER is iconic. Hayden will always be known as Anakin, whether you like it or not (and believe me, I dont like it!). Having Hayden appear at the end of ROTJ, in a way, gives it all closure. Anakin from the prequel trilogy and Anakin from the original trilogy seem like completely different characters. This ties them together. I blame Lucas for making such terrible prequels...not the decision to use Hayden. If the performance and writing were great for Hayden it wouldnt be an issue. People wouldnt care..but because his Anakin was so dreadful people take exception to it. I dont, because I think it was the right thing to do. Why show a ghost of a guy you never saw? its stupid.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    eryder-- that's what I've read

    by StarWarsRedux

    And I never expected it to be different. These "No's" don't bother me one bit. If Hayden were under the mask-- I'd have words. But so far, Lucas has never made a change that ever bothered me, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. <p> <p>My only problem is I might not be able to afford the blu ray just yet.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    ufoclub1977 = fucking agreed!!!

    by ClayMatthews

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Its all well and good them replacing yoda in ep 1

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    But the film is still a gigantic pile of shit so really, what is the point!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST

    My first boycott of SW, and it feels good!

    by romanocc

    I'm sorry but its too hard being a SW fan these days, almost to the point that Lucas messing with the films is almost silly. I decided for many reasons that I wasn't going to buy this, simply because if I walk out of Best Buy with that set I can hear George Lucas laughing his ass off over my shoulder as he got me again. I've had enough of the changes, and simply its easier to not be a SW fan, then actually be a SW fan these days. Now don't get me wrong, I still believe I'm in the minority with boycotting this crap, as this set will sell like hotcakes and will justify Lucas in making more changes to the next boxset. I simply can't give him money anymore as I would feel dirty, and its pretty sad because I have seen the OT movies hundreds of times in my life.

  • Of course, LFL/FOX have the best source of all used and unused footage (hell, even the wild on-set SW documentary footage in EMPIRE OF DREAMS' looks better than these Blu-ray deleted scenes). Message: don't even try to cut the deleted footage into fan edits. I was only curious about the bonus Blu-ray, now that's off my mind. Next.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Why can't Lucas spend his time altering Willow?

    by sweeneydave

    You know, mess with a film that can actually USE improvement.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    @ starwarsredux, re: Hayden

    by justmyluck

    I think the cumulative effect of the Cloud City/Tatooine/Coruscant montage, the altered Ewok song and the Hayden switcheroo triggered complete tune-out and dismissal in fans. Well, me at least - I'm assuming I couldn't be alone with that reaction.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Way to go Cobra-Kai!

    by D.Vader


  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    melgibsoncalledmethenword, I want it to make sense

    by Mattman

    Why didn't Obi-Wan revert to his younger form as well? Why wasn't Yoda a young ghost? Lucas gave some bullshit explanation that Anakin reverted to his young self before he went evil... well that doesn't make sense because he went GOOD again as an old man, and that's how he died. Why would the force just nicely grant him his younger form when it doesn't do that for anyone else? Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Poor chap who never had his moment of fame

    by Dasinfogod

    The chap is Adrian Dunbar, an Irish actor of some note, probably most famous for "Hear My Song", "Crying Game" and an alot of UK TV work. Apparently, in revisionist SW history issued by LucasLand Inc., his character is now referred to as Bail Antilles:

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST

    No one cares about the THX-1138 'revisions' either

    by justmyluck

    Because, despite a few edgy and prescient bits, it's a boring downer. Cumulative 'tune out'. Thankfully AMERICAN GRAFFITI had no futuristic elements. But, STAR WARS was always supposed to be ''A long time ago..'', wasn't it?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Nice work Cobra, but...

    by MotherPussBucket

    Luke tooling his lightsaber prior to Jabba's palace... in ROTS? Might wanna edit that for prosperity's sake.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    where did Cobra-Kai steal his copy from?

    by Titus05

    Lucas is gonna be pissed that his embargo was broken...they will hunt you down Cobra

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Fuck Star Wars

    by fastcars

    1) Everybody's seen it a million times. It's been PARODIED a million times. 2) Good "Star Wars" movies don't exist anymore. Just three downgraded versions of good "Star Wars" movies. Who wants to watch a film with weird, idiotic changes? (And the less said about those horrible prequels, the better. The third one was average, and the Darth Virgins were so thrilled they declared it "good.") 3) Yeah, George Lucas was a visionary, and a revolutionary filmmaker. Key word: Was. After Jedi, what did he do that was good? Seriously, can anyone one thing? All I see is bad stuff - putting weird changes into his good movies to make them worse, denying fans the chance to watch the movies they loved, making awful sequels to the movies they loved, releasing a new "version" of the movies they loved every year, coming up with BS interquels, that serve no purpose whatsoever except to be a tube through which lonely nerds can hand George Lucas money...maybe his technical achievements? He's sure good at cold, lifeless, perfectly symmetrical CGI. Kudos! 4) Blu-Ray will just be replaced by another format, sooner than you think. If you're a dude with hundreds of DVD's, and are re-buying them on Blu-Ray...Jesus Christ, dude. Re-examine your life. 5) There are countless amazing science fiction and fantasy films & books, to be so obsessed and stuck on one series. And really, isn't Star Wars just a ripoff of Dune & Buck Rogers? I don't get why people are so masturbatingly in love with these movies. George Lucas' stupid changes pissed me off a decade ago, so I stopped supporting him. If you geeks are in such turmoil, go read His Dark Materials, or watch Lord of the Rings. George Lucas used to be an artist. Now he is a businessman. Fuck him.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Stop giving him money.

    by prof_zoom

    It's like that South Park episode where Token keeps giving Tyler Perry his money. But worse... because this is a site that should herald good film... and not abortions like whatever the hell that thing is (because it ain't fucking Star Wars no more) that's ending up on Blu-Ray. STOP GIVING LUCAS YOUR MONEY. If you wanna see this shit heap for shits and giggles pirate it. Don't give him money. And the reason Lucas keeps changing these films is simple... IT'S BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEEP BUYING IT. Can you blame him? He figures this is what you want... and you know what, he's right, because you keep fucking buying these re-releases. Shame on you. STOP GIVING HIM YOUR MONEY.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    It's passive aggressive behavior from Lucas...

    by Mephisto the Great

    ...seriously. He has been pissed since Episode One about the fan disappointment, and I think he does these things to piss them off -- just enough to get the hamsters running in their little pathetic internet cages. I guess you can do that when you're richer than God.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Yeah Harry because the problem with TPM was the Yoda puppet

    by KilliK

    and nothing else.right.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    My money = safely remaining in wallet

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    So most of the "never before seen" deleted goodies consist of some stuff we have seen, and a lot of unfinished crap we anticipated being a little more complete - who here hasn't already viewed the Tosche Station sequence? And did anyone think the Yoda/Gui Gon communication scene would only be pre-vis without Neeson's voice? Sounds like I would spend all of about ten minutes watching the extras and then the rest of the day regretting the purchase. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure the films all look spectacular. It'll be tough, but I'm hoping my poor little eyes can handle not having them in Blu-ray until this set is deeply discounted. The days of my blind support for Star Wars are long gone. It's your baby, George. Have fun.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    The movie vs the film from what I've learned through this site...

    by vicmackey1268

    First off, this isn't for only aicn, although it would be really cool if one or more of them read it..I actually just want to share an opinion I have about these films and their versions based on stuff that's caught my eye since originally viewing the site... 1st- Lucas is totally doing all this because he can...and yes people will gobble it up, because it's Star Wars.. 2nd--my dislike about him changing things....Lucas can, imo, do whatever the hell he wants with his body of work...remold it, tweak it, long as the best imagery isn't f'd with. Did ANYONE complain when he added in the extra cgi storm troopers outside the bar in New Hope? No, because they took nothing away from the point the scene was trying to make. What bothers me is when a scene that gets acclaim from fans, critics, artists, etc gets changed for the hell of it.... For example...the ghost changing to Hayden at the end of Jedi....the scene showed Luke's father in a way we never ever saw him as...just like Luke had NEVER actually seen his father..I was taken back at this even when I was little...the dad (not knowing who the actor even was) was just like my dad...regular, normal, innocent...he wasn't "de-aged" or younger..he was the "good" that he died as...the scene works as a powerful visual that anyone can easily be corrupted by evil but be able to overcome it....changing it to young Anakin (even with a different, more respected actor) ruins that moment because it's the young, foolhardy character that turns bad, not the man who was good all along. Another example--The "noooo"...AICN even said this when they first posted about it...the scene where the Emperor is destroyed is silent...the shocks and screams are the things we, viewing the torture, actually feel..we feel like we're being beaten and killed and there's nothing that could be done...slowly we see EVERY SINGLE THOUGHT inside the head, inside the burnt skull, inside the darkened mask just from the small head movements...just like V for Vendetta had the emotions captured through the mask, the black eyes in Vader's were the most full of life than anything I'd seen in the whole series...and the entire battle was won through silence...adding the "nooo" ruins the visual of the scene...does it matter that it sounds like Frankenstein's monster" maybe a little, but, honestly if they'd added "He'!!!" it wouldn't have been any better...the imagery was ruined. So do I care if Lucas adds horribly fake cgi to a fantastically real looking "on-wires" minimum budget sci-fi? Not really...add all the eye blinking and cloud city testicle spaceships you want... Hell...I don't care if Han shot first or not...seriously..the dude has sooo many lines of badassery...he exudes badass..even if he shot 2nd, that just means he's got good reflexes.... But to tamper with amazingly thought out, fantastic visual emotions that I will always remember is just wrong...the heart of the original films is in those few images because the emotion wears the entire plot around the eyes of the actors. for buying this...I wont...after alllll the 3D cuts come out there will be another box set of even more things on the tech that replaces bluray...I'll buy that one instead. The new trilogy was fine btw...they weren't good when compared to the original, but just as Roger Moore sucks as James Bond, he was perfect for the time in which he was featured as Bond...the original trilogy took hold of emerging computer graphics and piled it on, just as the original trilogy used small scale sets, camera tricks, and the "new" tech of its time...from an artistic point of view the new trilogy fits well in its time...too bad the writing and acting weren't up to the challenge of being as moving and stirring as the originals. And finding those subtle moments within a film is what I learned through everyone's contribution on this site..what made me think of this?? I watched Casino Royale and for the first time was blown away at the music during the airport chase and how it kept escalating and escalating up until the plane lands and then just when you think it couldn't get more intense it does and the music is what makes me out of breath at the end, not just the action....sigh....that was long...but worth it, for me at least. I'm anxious to see how these have transferred too, I hope they look as good in these grown up eyes as they did when I was 6 and knew nothing about film, movies, or what had happened a long time ago in the galaxy far far away.

  • Packaging is slightly different from the US version, going by the images from

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by jim

    My order was shipped at 1.15am wednesday morning, cos we get Star Wars on Monday 12th Sep.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST

    No major TPM edits? Boo.

    by sapno_krei

    We get more "Noooooo!" in ROTJ but not less Jar Jar in TPM? I was so hoping for a TPM: Special Edition on the level of Spielberg's CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    The SW Blu-ray street date is Sep 12 in the UK

    by justmyluck

    Amazon UK must have shipped for guaranteed arrival on Monday.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Jar Jar for president


  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Will be buying the big box set.

    by Vincent Gecko

    I'm not sure what's up with all the haters and whiners. The last time I bought Star Wars was the remastered Special editions on VHS (erased matte lines but no added CGI). I never spent a penny on any home video re-release since then, though I did see them all on the big screen in the 90's. I never bought a prequel stand alone, I knew they would eventually come out with a 6 film box set. If I wanted to watch Star Wars better than VHS quality, there's always piracy and torrenting (backstroke of the west). Everyone must have known there would be a whole damn saga crazy box set eventually. Sure there'll be another 3D ultra full box set down the line, but let's be honest, he's going to milk the next versions of them individually for years to come. In the meantime, I can pirate and torrent and wait for what I want to pay for. Personally, I'd pay for the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL trilogy with space matte lines and see through snow speeders. After all, wouldn't it be hypocritical to bitch about Lucas altering his films with re-edits and added CGI effects but demand versions with very altered digital cleanups? If you were truly a purist, wouldn't you want to see that evidence of early practical effects techniques on the screen?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    exploding gunfire repeatedly in my eardrums


    that's the coolest thing ever. no it's not.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    67 POUNDS??!!!

    by justmyluck

    A set like that maybe costs $4 US to manufacture. But that's what the movie industry does - pop out a 25-cent disc and case and wholesaling it for $20 bucks. Soon it will just be hard drive space, a DRM file and you actually own nothing at all.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    So Harry is a Lucas apologist...

    by PorkChopXpress

    ...but seriously, that was the thinnest theory for why Lucas is doing what he's doing that I've ever seen. I just wish people would stop buying his swill. I can't even watch the original Star Wars movies anymore, I've been so poisoned against the entire franchise by what has become of it.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    The real reason why cobes got these early


    He's actually Carrie fisher. At least that's what I hope for when I think of us meeting..

  • Can't wait for this to arrive. With the prequels, the Shaw ghost at the end made no sense! He never looked like that in life. Thats the difference, the force restored him to his pre-Vader look.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST

    I hear Lucas has made a last-minute change to Vader's climactic ROTJ scene:

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    As he grabs Palpatine, he now says "Klingon bastard, you're killing my son!" Certainly wouldn't be any worse, would it?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST

    But if he released the original versions on blu ray

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

    Star Wars would be ridiculed by movie goers raised on Bruckheimer/Bay/etc. <b>Look at the fate of effects heavy films from the classic era. The audience that was impressed by them is either dead or senile, everyone else is like "how can anyone think that's real?" <p>I was at a screening of Nosferatu & people were laughing at what would've terrified audiences in 1922. Another example: as much as we all love the original Superman, scenes like the flooding of that valley look terrible and take you out of the movie. <p>Lucas is smart/desperate enough to know he needs to keep his brand relevant & his problem was always going to be the 20 years of technology separating the trilogies. But that Vader change is ridiculous, he's obviously trying to add some kind of resonance by linking it to the original NOOOO! from ROTS.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    when does it end?

    by Pipple

    as I see it and as I've witnessed it throughout my life, despite what we online have been debating angrily for years, none of the versions we THINK are lucas' final version of star wars will ever be his final version. so why bother defending or complaining about his changes. Lord knows when it's going to be modified/tweaked. I remember back at some fucking forum I said the tpm yoda was inaccurate (this was before aotc came out and REALLY settled the matter,) and I got my 13 year old ass handed to me on a silver platter by people claiming it'd all make sense in the end and yoda just ages funnily or some shit. Now I sit here wondering how sad it is that I even got into debates about that shit in the first place. I love star wars and all but I have to admit it's HAAAAAAAARD these days to keep having faith in it as a shining example to all other films of how it's supposed to be done. besides I think I might have a chance with this ridiculously hot chick I work with... wish me luck with her. She likes me despite my quirks, and I like her a lot, but goddamn have I got to figure out how to get closer to her without blurtting out that I want to pound her ass like a horny dog...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Hey George Lucas, I have a question...

    by AllThosePowers

    ...are you some kind of FUCKING IDIOT or what?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    if nothing else, this should serve as an example


    an example where we actually choose what is more important- the scant money we have in our wallets during this economy; going towards real, tangible security, food or betterment of our own dreams and ourselves----or going to buy more nostalgic fluff from our childhoods that keeps us man-children, stunts our emotional growth- and in fact isn't even the SAME thing we grew up with, but a tainted retool made solely to get our precious bucks. we can take this time to decide what's more important. do you spend that money on the blu-rays just to see how much they fucked up our memories, or do we move on and heck, maybe use that money to go toward you and your friends making your own little web movie, maybe being the next star wars or district 9.


  • The funny thing is the timing of HBO airing this episode the same week star wars fans were in an uproar at lucas is just a coincidence, the episodes were shot and scheduled months ago. But yeah in the scene as therapist 'accidentally' lets leak that a former patient of his 'who directed star wars' needed hookers in order to function, he would pay them for a full hour, but only needed 2-3 minutes to 'finish the shot' I was in stitches

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Star Wars pissed someone off. What a shock...

    by Playkins

    ...Being as ever since the Special Editions came out, they've been the rally point and soundboard for geek rage.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST

    I won't be buying these, but....

    by lochkray

    I also won't be bitching about Lucas, or saying that he's insane. He's oddly genius. The only thing that MIGHT have got me to buy these (would be my fourth purchase - two vhs versions, and one DVD), is the changes. The deleted scenes will be on youtube in a month (a lot of them are already), so why else get them? Why would anybody? I have bluray, and it is superior to DVD, no question. But its not like the jump from VHS to DVD, where the difference was so very noticable. To get the EXACT same movies, even with superior Bluray many would he sell? Even with all the new docs? A fuck of a lot less. Period. He knows this. So Ewoks blink, Darth Vader yells no, Greedo shoots first and then third, and all wookies have been replaced by CGI yodas...or something. Thus giving a new product. Hard core geeks will bitch about their childhoods being raped (and, hey, you're geeks - how great were our childhoods to begin with?), but the sales will soar. If he didn't change them, then its only the same bitching geeks who would have bought them, anyway.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    gordon bombay-..the force restored him to his pre-Vader look.


    the force? what are you talking about. there is no force. no force we can all tap into, some of us are just born better able to. no- the 'force' is midichlorians now...the force is fucking midichlorians. something in the dna that can apparently make dead people come back as ghosts only seen by other people with a high midi-count. lucas stripped the supernatural and metaphysical out of star wars and made it mumbo-jumbo pseudo science.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Once the original trilogy is remastered for DVD.....

    by thot

    ....without ANY of the subsequent changes,...THEN I will consider purchasing them. I know they exist on laserdisc but I don't believe they do on standard DVD format. Kills me that Lucas added the awful "Noooooo!" to ROTJ. It was so incredibly craptastic in ROTS but he couldn't bear to admit it was a mistake!! His state of denial was so profound that he just HAD to add it to Jedi for self-affirmation. Classic!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    George Lucas is an asshole.


    I will not be buying this revisionist crap. It's an affront to film preservation, and a defacement of our cultural legacy.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    @rebel scumb that scene is on is the link:

    by KilliK hilarious

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    @ vincent gecko, absolutely

    by justmyluck

    Give me the matte lines and boxy garbage mattes and even those semi-transparent elements all as they were - providing evidence of the work labored-upon by the artists and technicians of the period. I keep saying this: but the more they try to modernize the OT VFX, the more they date all its peripheral footage. Like so many, I wouldn't give a whiff how much GL dicked-around with the OT if the original version was provided in the same quality. Of course, we all know ILM to high-res scan every bit of OT footage to generate all those 'special' additions. But by not providing the original to compare the 'revison' to, I'm guessing GL thinks it might make fans swallow the new crap easier. As Spielberg has come to realize: just let it be.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    George is not crazy. He's just a fucking bastard.

    by paketep

    And yes, I saw years ago that until the goddamned douchebag dies, he'll keep adding more and more changes, perhaps do another trilogy to show even more how completely he lost the touch. And let's not forget another couple of Indy movies also. But the original, pure trilogy is there, even if it's not in Bluray. And George can't touch our memories. That much we have. So I won't say "die soon", it's not in good taste, but an enormous fuck you is more than deserved. So, George: FUCK YOU, BASTARD.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I'm gettin' 'em.

    by Ross Keefe

    Lucas may well be insane. I may not like all the changes, but it's Star Wars dammit. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm as apt to complain about this stuff as the next guy, but simply put: I see a lightsaber fight and I'm a kid again. I'm with Harry on this one. That doesn't mean I won't gripe about the changes, and failures later on, but those kinds of things make for interesting talkbacks as far as I'm concerned.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    The level of complaints never cease to astonish

    by magnetoelectric

    Its pretty simple. Own a big ass fuckin 46 inch TV? , ...then buy some Star Wars on Blu Ray dummy. Sometimes you guys go so far I question whether you hate Lucas or yourself

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    thanks kilik! Everyone should watch it, it's immensely therapeutic

    by Rebel Scumb

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    You people are fucking insane.

    by Mugato5150

    That is all.

  • That's plenty to keep me busy, happy and within my budget. I have no desire to buy anything "Star Wars" again until what Harry talks about comes to pass after Lucas' death. I'll buy the original trilogy in remastered, theatrical form when someone finally decides to release it that way. As far Lucas' new tinkering, I'm fine just watching clips on YouTube; I don't need to own it. I more excited about watching "Terror in the Aisles" again in any quality at all rather than continuing to support Lucas' lush lifestyle for not creating anything new for fans despite owning a movie studio and an effects company.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Not buying these

    by I am not a number

    As a friend of mine said, "If Lucas loves the idea of symmetry so much, why doesn't he keep tweaking the prequels until they are as good as the originals?" If he wanted to change things for the better, he should replace Hayden Christian with Sebastian Shaw. Still, I've gone past really caring about these changes. I've bought SW enough times, and thankfully I got a rip of the laserdisc so I can see the OT as I did as a kid, without all the stupid tweaks, like Greedo shooting first. I can live with the inferior video quality.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST


    by Ross Keefe

    I'm more of a writer than a director. I'm not saying that I'm any good, just that I'll let my friends do the groundwork and what have you, and I'll turn in the script for their approval (having spent no more than a pen and notebook's worth... I'm a dick that way)

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?

    by vicmackey1268

    Boom..this entire debate, wrapped up in one sentence, from the original Star Wars, in a line Lucas has yet to change, but never will, because it's his philosophy on this entire series...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    I believe in you George!

    by Lee

    I will definitely be getting this. Anything new to the starwars universe is cool! Keep the continuity alive George!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST

    The trolls are out.

    by justmyluck

  • Just as a final go fuck yourself to the pathetic complainers.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    one tiny error in the above review

    by corplhicks

    Luke rebuilding the saber would be a deleted scene from ROTJ, not ROTS. and I hope there's tons more goodies than what was written about here. Also I do want to know if any additional space battle effects were added, like more ships, etc.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Good to see some regular talkbackers sending in articles

    by Bobo_Vision

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Hey, creepythinman,

    by Ross Keefe

    Nothin' wrong with those choices (although I thought that First Class was a bit thin at times). Good luck with your purchasing, and I hope you enjoy the hell out of 'em.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    The Shaw Swap Incident

    by PhineasFlynn

    No, this isn't new to the Blu-Ray release, but I think it illustrates how far off the mark Lucas is with some of his changes. All along, Lucas has told us that the saga was about Vader... his rise, fall, and eventual redemption. Sure, the OT is told form the point of view of the heroes of the Alliance, but the story was about Vader learning he had a son, obsessively hunting for him, and eventually siding with his son over the Emporer. That's what title "Return of the Jedi" was all about. It wasn't about the Jedi returning to prominence (because they don't in that film), or about Luke returning to Tatooine or Dagobah. It's about the Jedi in Vader returning from the dark side. So, when Lucas decides to throw Christensen's head in at the end of ROTJ, he pisses all over everything he says he was trying to do... much like Harry's point that by altering the films he's pissing in the face of film preservation, which he has rallied for. Some say that by popping Christensen's head on there, that it's reverting him to the last time that he was a Jedi, before he turned to the dark side. The problem is that he "returned" to being a Jedi by saving his son. Why cheapen that and pop Christensen's head on there, simply to try to bridge the PT to the OT. As if anyone who watched the OT said, "Who the hell is that old guy?" Or, more to the point, as if some kid who grew up with the PT saw an original cut of ROTJ and said, "I thought Hayden Christensen was Darth Vader? Who is that old guy?" As if people would have forgotten the poignant moment of unmasking that happened literally minutes earlier. TLDR Version: No matter how seemingly innocuous or insignificant the change made, no matter how much Lucas thinks that the changes help tie things like the PT and OT together, he's just pissing on the original work, the people who did that work to begin with, the fans, and most importantly, the story he was trying to tell in the first place.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Boo-Fucking-hoo. Buy it or don't buy it.

    by Jay

    Whining just makes you look like a baby.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST

    I've been reading Easy Riders, Raging Bulls...

    by Gary Busey's Upper Half

    (great book by the way) and it's sad how unfulfilled all of the dreams of the "New Hollywood" directors of the late 60s and 70s ended up being. Coppola wanted to be an auteur-friendly studio mogul with American Zoetrope, but that never really happened. Lucas wanted to break free of the studio system's grip on his movies, which he did after Star Wars, but then he pissed it all away creatively with little to show for it after 30 years except Howard the Duck, Willow and the endless merchandising of his original success. Lucasfilm should have been the live-action equivalent of Pixar. Instead it's turned into The Star Wars Co.&reg;

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Poor Chap

    by ScotiaNova

    (played not by Jimmy Smits but by some poor chap who never had his moment of fame) If I remember correctly it was the unknown actor Adrian Dunbar . . . yes, please do wear your ignorance of quality actors on your sleeve . . . I think that's what it says on his CV "Not Jimmy Smits".

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Not this time.

    by mrplowking

    My money will stay safely on my debit card. I am finally done with Star Wars, and it's kinda sad. I LOVED the original films as a kid. If Lucas wants to continue amassing billions, how about handing off the series to other filmmakers? Like Kevin Smith recently said, there is absolutely no reason not to have Joe Johnston make a Boba Fett movie. He designed the character, so let him at it. But as for the current series, I'm doneski. I've bought these films on VHS, Laserdiscs (every variation), VCD and DVD. Enough's enough. Besides, the best redux is Adywan's Star Wars Revisited. And it's free! Can't wait for his ESB Revisited later this year.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Lucas, the "money grubbing hack"

    by Mugato5150

    ...who gave half his fortune to charity. You may slink away now.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    @bantuwind, looks like you're the one whining.

    by kevred

    Other people are whining about great art which has affected their lives, and you're whining about comments on a comment board. Who's the whiner, again?

  • That is, it shits on the work of fine actors, actresses, cameramen, effects techs, sound men, matte painters, and everyone else whose proud achievements - work on projects of titanic cultural importance - get casually tossed on the floor by Lucas's twitchy mouse-clicking finger. Their work was good enough to help make these films the most successful of all time, and to make Lucas wealthy beyond anyone's wildest dreams. It was good enough for hundreds of millions of movie-watchers who packed theaters and crowded around TVs for decades. But now it's suddenly not good enough for Lucas the "visionary", the painter who's never done with "his" painting? To hell with you, Lucas. A lot of painters painted these pictures. You're destroying their work for the sake of your own ego.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    God dammit, Lucas.

    by KilliK

    god dammit.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I, for one,

    by Tim C

    can't wait to see and hear these films on the big Blu.

  • Let's review: Millions of people give Lucas their money to watch his films. Lucas takes their money, then takes away the original films and won't let anyone see them in any kind of decent, legal form. Then he gives half the money we gave him to charity. Sounds like someone who has no respect at all for the people who made him what he is today. He casually deletes the work of hard-working people from his OT, and he casually disregards a simple request from his original fans.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    creepythinman, awesome. Very cool indeed.

    by Ross Keefe

    Just don't forget the beer, man (or whatever substance you use to enhance a good time).

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    TPM has DNR overload, not a great transfer.

    by Dr_Zoidberg

    It's still ok but so much of the grain has been removed and a lot of the close ups the faces look far too smooth and just kinda waxy/awful.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Changes's BLU RAY

    by Jay Eyler

    I guess I'm one of the few fans that are excited just to see some favorite old movies in all their hi-def glory. Every single change that's ever pissed anyone off adds up to a total of about 2 and a half minutes...out of 14 hours of running time??? Not a fan of Nooooooo!. Not a fan of Greedo shooting first and so on and so on, but the other 13 hours and 55 minutes will look and sound spectacular. I'll be enjoying the fuck out of them with my son, while some bitter people are still on here talking about how they're not going to buy them. Freedom of choice of course. Just means I won't have to wait in line with so many people. Cheers.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Cobra-Kai = Professional

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST


    by Mo_Rephus

    I fail to see how this explains George being the biggest hypocrite on earth by screwing over these films to the point now of stupidity (R2 hiding behind thin rocks that look VERY CG that he couldn't have gotten behind to begin with and then magically they aren't there when he comes out of the nook?) when he's always talked about film preservation. Where is the film preservation here? Film alteration is what's happening and he was very vocally opposed to such things in the late 80s. I'm afraid he's lost his mind and obviously either doesn't give a damn anymore other than to squeeze every last dime out of people stupid enough to keep giving it to him and then justifying their actions (Harry...) or he's lost the ability to comprehend HOW to tell a story which is somewhat evident when looking at some of the nonsense he's added in the last 10 to 15 years (Vader's shuttle heading to the star destroyer in Empire when seconds later we see him on it obviously indicating he did arrive and then the latest abomination with Vader's new "No's"). My bet is a little of both.

  • Cobra-Kai is either very sick or just wanted to ease into the sting of watching the cartoons that Lucas has turned the OT into. I'll believe it's the latter, which is less painful than thinking that someone could actually be most interested in watching TPM, which is probably the most disappointing film experience I've had in my entire life.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    It's easier to not care, isn't it, jediwise?

    by kevred

    Hope that's not your mantra for other aspects of life.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    for FUCK's sake, it isn't PHASES, it is FAZES

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    if you're not going to take your art seriously, then fuck right off. Jesus Christ, i'm done with you. I don't care how you bend your polemic to suit whatever wallet you are after, but learn some fucking English. AAARRRGGGHHHHH

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    and capitalizing to make a point

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST


    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    mugato5150 - Re: The Giving Pledge

    by evergreen

    I'll believe it when it actually happens. Just like me actually paying to see anything made by King Goiter Neck after I walked out on TPM before the second act.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST

    What's this about "R2 hiding behind thin rocks that look VERY CG"?

    by ufoclub1977


  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Food for thought...

    by Mo_Rephus

    Your argument also doesn't make any sense from the point you yourself made. If a person is passionate about an issue and realizes there are a lot of people who don't realize it is an issue to be concerned about, wouldn't you think they'd go out of their way to make more people aware that it IS a problem rather than saying the heck with it, their just the ignorant masses, I'll ignore the issue myself and give 'em this instead? No, I think he's desperately tried to make the originals work within the framing of the prequels and having never been happy with how the original film came out, he's tried to "correct" it in his mind. The big problem is most of those changes are either silly "hey wouldn't it be funny if we did this" kinda things by the team of "professionals" working on them (that he obviously thought were funny and approved them) or they're him forgetting HOW to tell a story and not taking the advice of his friend Spielberg; that you can tell a story visually and that a film should be able to be viewed with the volume down and still understand it. Bottom line...he is not taking his passions seriously when it comes to his own films. It's good for every other film, but not his evidently. I will not buy this set, I've already cancelled my order, and won't buy one until we get the ORIGINAL versions of the original trilogy remastered in hi-definition on Blu-ray (or whatever future format) to go along with his monkeyed up versions.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST

    If I ever meet George ...

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    ... I'm going to THANK HIM for not releasing the originals on Blu-Ray.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Incomplete deleted scenes give fans something to do

    by Nem_Wan

    Expect many many YouTubes of people trying to complete those scenes with finished effects and showing how they'd fit in the movie.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    George Lucas is a Troll

    by JAG_off

    "His personal humor is one of 'getting your goat' - a teasing manner that is meant to elicit outrage and vocal dissent." In other words, he trolls. Hard. Problem, world?

  • Okay, pick up "Thor" too if you like. TERROR IN THE AISLES! TERROR IN THE AISLES! TERROR IN THE AISLES!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Ah, jediwise...

    by Ross Keefe

    Nice to hear from someone like minded (not that I feel completely alone in this). Besides, I only have them on DVD. I can't wait to watch this stuff with my nieces and nephews. Yeah, the changes might suck, but they don't make up the whole thing and there's more important stuff going on then all the hating, like handing down a legacy. Last year (when she was in second grade) my niece had to build a vehicle out of cardboard to run a pretend race with...she built a jedi starfighter (ahem, with some help). There's a good time to be had here, if you're willing.

  • Hate that Bastard.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    let him troll

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    it is pretty damn obvious he'd trade everything in if he could be seen as a great director. The fact that he isn't is punishment enough.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST


    by redkamel

    first of all, there was no coherent "theory" even presented. You imply he is fucking with the movies so people care about film preservation. Assuming that is your point, there are far BETTER ways to get people to care about that. Like actually preserving film, or possibly re-releasing old films to show they are still viable and pertinent. George Lucas is a fucking retard, an idiot, and a dickhead. KOTCS sucked,and Star Wars 1-3 were utter shit.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Oh, Harry...

    by ObiBen

    ...grow up.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    They still didn't fix the lightsaber color problems

    by pikazerox

    Enjoy Vader's pink dildo in ESB and Jedi.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Those Back To The Future shoes... 9,595.00

    by Quake II

    Great deal on a size 10 pair. They are all going for 5,000-10,000 right now.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Yeah, no way will Lucas allow changes to be made after his death ...


    He will 'Lock-down' his final versions and that will be that.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by tye dye mann

    I am pretty sure that this is what is called "bargaining". Keep on it, Harry! Just a couple more steps left!

  • So now what the fuck?<br> <br> Oh, right, gotta make another buck off of pathetic fanboys.<br> <br>

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Goddammit Lucas.Goddamit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I've said my peace on this...for years now.

    by conspiracy

    George Hates the franchise, blames it for his failed marriage and him being unable to get away from it. George hates that others did made a better Star Wars than he ever could. He hates Marcia was a better editor, he hates the Kurtz has better taste, that Kersh and Kasdan had a more mature, better received vision than he is capable of, Hates that the best of the series were collaborative and largely not his own. This isn't George getting our goat...this is George telling you to Go Fuck Yourself...that he is going to erase the work and artistry of his betters and force you to watch more amateurish Lucasisms. George of a walking talking abnormal psychology thesis...a damaged, bitter, resentful narcissist who won't stop until the last brick of what was has been torn down.; replaced by a sad vision that is HIS and HIS alone. Oh...and nice write up Cobra...Fucking Professional actually..., but noamount ofAdded Incest will get another penny out of my pocket for deranged uncle George.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    romanocc . I'm boycotting as well. I'm over Star Wars.

    by Quake II

    I have the laserdisc tranfers with NO changes as well as the special edition dvd's. That's enough Star Wars for me. I wouldn't buy these Blu-rays unless it was 20 bucks for all 6 films. X-Men:FC however is a purhase for sure.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Vader's theme (Imperial March)

    by yubnubrocks

    With all of his crazy changes, the one that I can't understand why he HASN'T done yet, is put in Vader's theme in New Hope. It makes NO SENSE. Ok, it was introduced in ESB. And guess what? It's in EVERY other movie, EXCEPT New Hope. Just a hint in Phantom, and then more in Clones, and then full out fuck shit in Revenge. So, if we're to watch these movies "in order" (1-6), why the fuck would The Imperial March all of a sudden NOT appear in New Hope? Honestly? I think George forgot. Yep. He fucked up. Missed it. When Vader first appears in New Hope, stepping into the blockade runner, how cool would it be to hear his theme song, instead of the "meh" music that we currently hear. Please. Someone argue me on this one.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Wish They'd Undo the CGI Dancers in ROTJ

    by Autodidact

    The scene in Jabba's palace where the character actually gets up in front of the camera and wiggles like a Ralph Bakshi cartoon is just embarassing. To all directors everywhere: Unless you're making a musical, leave the song and dance numbers out of your movie.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    well said Conspiracy

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Adywan's Star Wars Revisited

    by saultonofswing

    The greatest fan edit ever. He spent over two years on this and another three so far on ESB (which he plans to release in Dec 2011, supposedly). This is the definitive cut. If you haven't seen it, get it now (it's on the torrents), great quality, color corrected, with all of Lucas' latter-day mistakes removed or fixed. Even the nit-pickers are ecstatic about this version.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Lucas Excusing himself is one thing

    by D o o d

    others excusing him for his bullshit tweaking of movies is just retarded!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST

    "Adywan's Star Wars Revisited", the definitive cut...

    by StarWarsRedux mean the one that removes Tarkin's close-up right before the Death Star explodes and instead just shows the turbolasers charging up? Right. Definitive. Next he'll be doing "2001: A Space Odyssey Revisited" and cut out the bone-to-satelite jump cut in favor of a prehistoric monkey man scratching his ass on the monolith. Brilliant.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    I have a new theory

    by Teddy Artery

    I think Harry comes close, but the real reason Lucas keeps dicking around with his movies is because of copyright law. Lucas wants to keep issuing "new" versions of his movies because everytime he re-issues "enhanced" versions of his films he applies for new copyrights, which extend the length of term for his properties. After he's dead, there will be less probability this will continue (unless he institutionalizes this behavior).

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST

    i can live with every tweak and change except for the...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... "NOOOOO!" in return of the jedi - what always gave that scene the dramatic impact it has (had) was vader's silence - the viewer became vader in that brief moment as he saved luke - while vader remained silent millions of kids watching were telepathically yelling at him to save luke - after the his silent pause in close up, vader reacts as if having heard the fans watching - we (fans) could almost see his face behind his mask in that moment - going from sad to very pissed off - silence is golden, and more dramatic given the situation - i think Harry is right about Lucas - he responded to all of the complaints of the "NOOOOO!" at the end of ep.6 by putting it into a classic scene that seemed otherwise untouchable - as an attempt to legitimize its first use and squash the complaints - the joke is on us

  • Money, Fame, does he care about the fans? If GEORGE LUCAS cared about the fans, and film preservation, WHY WHY WHY keep messing with these films, or at least WHY WHY WHY not release the untampered originals? WHY HARRY, WHY??????

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST

    The real reason Shaw was replaced in RotJ...

    by WeylandYutani

    was that Lucas created a timeline problem with a 10 year old Anakin in TPM. Bear with me here: • Anakin is ~10 years old during TPM. • TPM is set ~30 years before ANH. • Therefore Vader is ~40 years old during ANH. • RotJ is set ~5 years after ANH. • Therefore Vader is ~45 years old at the time of his death. The problem is, Sebastian Shaw, the actor portraying the older Vader/Anakin was 77 years old at the time he filmed his scenes back in '82. Now obviously you can cheat an actor's age plus or minus a few years in movies, but there is no way you can hide a 32 year age gap. How Lucas and his people could not make the PT match the OT is beyond me... Anakin/Vader was revealed to be THE CENTRAL CHARACTER of the entire saga. All that stuff about Vader appearing how he was when he was still a pure jedi is PR mumbo jumbo IMO.

  • Welcoming the changes for continuity? How's about a good flim maker and director would use the prequel trilogy (which was made 2nd) to match his original trilogy (which was made first), NOT change the original to match the prequel . . . he had 15 years to get the Prequels story right, but because he screwed that up he's going back to screw the Original? So because Vader was a whiny cry-baby in the Prequels, GL is making Vader a whiny "NOOOO" baby in Jedi . . . Can't believe HARRY of ALL PEOPLE defends GL here . . .

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    Anakin shouldn't be forgiven

    by Ash Talon

    Let me understand something. Anakin kills dozens of Jedis, including children, at the Jedi temple at the end of ROTS. <p> He then spends 18 years taking part in the subjugation of hundreds of planets. Probably personally killed hundreds if not thousands of beings. <P> And he's forgiven because he saves his son? Which can be argued as a selfish move. Afterall, he's not saving a stranger. He's saving his genetic heir. <p> I guess the Force accepts him, because, like God, the Force is a dick. As long as you worship it, you can never be considered evil.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Harmy's De-Specialized Editions are great

    by Lucky13

    I'm gonna stick with those, as the A/V quality is very good (better then HD-cable but obviously not quite up there with BD). They're free, and best of all, they are as I remembered seeing as a kid. Han shoots first, Greedo shoots not at all? Yes please. I lied... best of all, they're saved on my PS3's HDD, so I don't even have to search out the discs to play them. My 3.5 yr old daughter LOVES Darth Vader. At the end of ROTJ, she said (of Darth Vader): "He's a good guy now, cause he saved the boy from the mean man!!!" My 3 yr old daughter didn't need the "Nooooooooo!!!!" to make that scene clear to her. Yet GL does. Sad.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Way to go Dojo!

    by frank

    Throwin’ rocks tonight!

  • I've been seeing SW pop up everywhere lately . . . ads everywhere, on Darth Mauls face all over eBay, I was even at Wally World tonight and saw 3 cans of Chewbacca PRINGLES in some obese ladies cart . . . Nice way to amp up marketing right before the Blu-Ray release, GL. George is has a BILLION, and wants a BILLION more. It's about money Harry, not film preservation . . .

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    It's the story and characters that make a movie

    by romanocc

    What makes me laugh is when people think the movies are better when the effects are updated by Lucas. The story and characters are what makes a movie, and that is why Star Wars was so great in 1977. The effects at that time were just icing on the cake, but if fans like me didn't give a shit about Luke, Leia, and Han, the movie would have been forgotten by 1978. The characters in the Prequels were its biggest failure because I could give a rats ass about Anakin and Padme. I sort of cared about Obiwan cause Ewan did a great job, so atleast there was someone to root for. You can have the greatest effects in the world, and non-stop action, but if you don't give a shit about who's on the screen, the movie will be a failure and wont pass the test of time.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Harry is unequivocally wrong

    by enderandrew

    I rarely post here, and I know I'm making a strong statement, but consider: 1. Lucas has said film perservation is only important in protecting the vision of the auteur. 2. Lucas has said he is the Star Wars auteur. 3. Lucas has said the special editions have always been his vision, but he couldn't always pull the films off that way. 4. When fans voiced outrage of Jar Jar, he said "fans said the same thing about Ewoks but eventually everyone loved them, and every kid I have spoken to loves Jar Jar" (meaning his grandkids). 5. Lucas made the prequels outside of the studio system specifically because he said he wanted to make sure no one else had input on them. 6. Celebrities and the super rich live in their own private universe where no one ever questions them, to the point that they don't question their own judgement. They are always right and everything is genius. 7. Many artists do believe art is never finished, merely abandoned, which is precisely what Lucas has said repeatedly for years. 8. John Williams has said for years that Lucas has always said he is never finished with Star Wars and always wants to revisit it. 9. Harry's theory contradicts every single thing anyone has said about Lucas for years. This is the same guy who insisted on writing the scripts for the prequels even though he admits he is a terrible screenwriter and struggles with dialogue. He wants no other input. He is an auteur. 10. Lucas publicly repeatedly admits to being an auteur. 11. Lucas has spoken a few times about film preservation sparing, but not dedicated his personal wealth, time or focus to the cause so much that he would destroy his own legacy just to make a point.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Forget about the unaltered OT seeing a proper release

    by georgecauldron

    Lucas will never let it happen. He'll make all the legal precautions to ensure nobody else can restore and release the UOT. Most likely his eldest daughter will take over the LFL empire, and from what I've seen and heard about her and her Twitter messages she's a bigger moron than her dad. So, forget it about, guys. Get the laserdiscs, get the 2006 dvd, get the fan-made restorations.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST


    by orcus

    Well done! Orcus salutes you sir

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Katie Lucas on Twitter

    by romanocc

    If you read her tweets, we will never see the originals fully restored. She tweeted back in the summer, "The haters will complain.... and then they will buy this set!" Yeah, taunt your fanbase, thats a good way of doing business! Because Lucasfilm is essentially a monopoly over our Star Wars films, this is the attitude the Lucas's have towards the fanbase. I would say to anyone on the fence about buying this set, do you really want to give money to these people anymore??? Geez, they are actually taunting the fanbase and giving us the finger with these changes, and expect the fans to buy anything they put out. I just wish enough fans would boycott this set to show these assholes this tampering of the old fims has to stop.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Lucas as Painter

    by petek66

    Let alone the fact that he didn't direct 2 of the films. The painting metaphor breaks down because if he were a painter he would have his complete original palette to work with. Here, his cast is either dead or too old to re-shoot scenes and react to new elements or add new plot points. If they could redo the Greedo or Jabba scene and bring back 34 yr old Harrison Ford to play them differently it might work- but he's stuck using hokey, inadequate CGI to pull it off. It's like revisiting the Mona Lisa but you're all out of brown and you have to use green instead.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:42 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    It doesn't take 25 cents to make a BluRay transfer of a movie, restore old film (deleted scenes), produce documentaries, author the discs, redo the sound mix on all six, etc. Doing a proper new transfer and sound mix is actually quite expensive, which is some old movies released on BluRay look like ass. As for SE changes, most were cosmetic and were actual improvements. A few are quite regrettable, such as Han shooting first (and the later horrible looking dodge he does), Han stepping on Jabba's tail, etc. Hayden replacing Sebastian as the Force ghost actually doesn't both me if you want to suggest that Anakin actually died young, and was basically resurrected Frankenstein-style as Vader.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I'll watch all this shit for free on youtube...fuck you!

    by alienindisguise

    and yes, Katie Lucas sucks ass. Snobby bitch.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Put the pipe down Harry.

    by Jaka

    If Lucas cares so much about film preservation then why does he refuse to restore and release the ONE THING he's done that people really care about? Lucas lives in America and he's free to do whatever he wants, just like the rest of us. In Lucas' case that includes being a hypocritical blowhard and a money grubbing capitalist. Again, that's his right, because we ain't livin' in China or North Korea. But to all those who say the complainer should stop complaining I say mind your own! Lucas deserves all the shit he gets, regardless of the fact that a lot (maybe a majority) of the people dumping on him will still buy this set. <p> My complaints are very few. As a few others have said, most of the change make no difference and some are an improvement. I don't really get the "nooooo", though. Doesn't seem necessary.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Return of the Jedi showed Lucas's true colors decades ago.

    by Anti-fanboy

    Muppets and teddy bears, Dude.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Katie Lucas

    by enderandrew

    I haven't read her tweets. I don't know her, but she is probably right. Didn't all the haters swear that no one would buy the DVDs, no one would ever spend money on Star Wars again, and everyone was boycotting Lucas? Does Star Wars still bring in billions every year? And for people saying there will never be a release of the theatrical versions, didn't he release those to DVD?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:03 p.m. CST

    The problem with ghost Hayden at the end of ROTJ...

    by vettebro

    Two reasons. One it's not the original scene. Two... if fucks with the continuity of the film. How? If Darth Vader's ghost is young, (Hayden) then how come Obi Wan and Yoda are still old fuck ghosts?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Stellar work Sensei

    by Roger Moon

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Watching Ep1, 2, and 6 the other day

    by MurderMostFowl

    On HD on v...Episode 1 and Jedi look like they're cut form the same cloth. Episode 2 almost looked silly by comparison. The fact that Episodes 4,5,6 and 1 were all shot on film gives them a far superior look... Episode 1 as poor of a film as it is story wise, is actually very impressive in HD. Episode 2, on the other hand just looks silly in some scenes... like video game backdrops.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Hey! Get the fuck off my lawn youse damn kids!

    by Yukon Cornelius

    Or, "An Elegy for the Star Wars Generation" I was four years old when Star Wars (Star Wars--not yet Episode IV or A New Hope) came out in 1977. It's really one of the first things I remember--receiving action figures of Luke, Ben, Vader, and R2-D2 for Christmas the following year, and geeking out when I would see a commercial or clip of the film or one of the actors on TV. I literally grew up with Star Wars--I was seven when Empire came out (the perfect age for a perfect film!) and ten years old when Jedi was finally released. As part of Generation X, I always thought my era (which I prefer to think of as the Star Wars Generation rather than GenX) had a bit of the Jan Brady syndrome--a sad, mousy sort of generation lost between the high drama of the 1960s/70s' Beatlemania, JFK, the Civil Rights movement, LSD, Woodstock, the Vietnam War, Watergate, and Punk Rock and the later 1990s/2000s' internet revolution, the commercial rise and fall of Grunge/Alternative music, Kurt Cobain's suicide, the Turn of the Millenium, 9/11, the "War on Terror", and the election of Barack Obama. All WE really had was MTV and Star Wars--and both are now mere embarrassing shadows of their former selves. This may merely be maudlin nostalgia for a simpler time, but back then we had John Landis' video for Michael Jackson's magnum opus "Thriller" on MTV, or Luke Skywalker gazing off into a binary sunset accompanied by John Williams' majestic score; now Michael Jackson is dead(!) and we have the douche bags of Jersey Shore on MTV and Jar-Jar Binks stepping in computer generated dewback shit--oh, how the mighty have fallen. Though I've owned nearly every home video iteration of Star Wars available in the past 20 years--on VHS (letterboxed OT and SE), laserdisc (OT Definitive Collection and SE), and dvd (SE and SE with the "bonus" laserdisc ports of the OT)--and would be tempted once again to open my wallet for Uncle George's cash cow IF the original non-special edition theatrical versions were included, I feel that it is finally time to put away childish things. I will not be purchasing this new blu-ray SW saga set. I won't exaggerate and say G-Lu raped my childhood, for I still hold fond memories of SW as it was, and as I remember it, but no (or should I say No! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!)... This is no longer MY Star Wars. I only hope that George Lucas eventually has an epiphany and like Darth Vader, returns to the good side of the Force and decides to finally release the theatrical versions of his original trilogy in high def for the fans that grew up with them before he finally shuffles off his non-cybernetically enhanced mortal coil. Until that day, I leave it to those younger generations that may still appreciate this Very Special Edition Star Wars Saga on blu-ray: the GenY, Millennials, Indigo Children, Alien-Human Hybrids, Digital Constructs, Clones, Mutants, and all the rest of the Post-Humans to come. Vaya con Dios muchachos!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:09 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    You can argue that Anakin did die young and that Vader was mostly machine, or that he died young in the Force. His ghost represents when he was a Jedi and not a Sith. Yoda and Obi Wan were a different story. Arguing that anything original is inherently better is a little silly. Even with the Special Editions, and the DVD Special-er Editions, there was still a puppeteers hand visible holding out a Wampaa arm. 99% of the changes in Star Wars with the years are fixing little details like this that do in fact make the film better. The original version doesn't look or sound as good. That being said, I will never get over Han shooting first, Greedo shooting 10 feet off target at point blank range, and Han stepping on Gredo's tail.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST

    No, thank you, Lucasfilm.

    by Paul Dronet

    I will spend my cash on other things. Someone said that Terror in the Aisles is being included with Halloween 2? Really??? I haven't seen that in years.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST

    50 years from now, we'll bitch about changes to Red Tails

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    specifically, the part where Cuba Gooding Jr's ghost is replaced by the young white kid who played him as a child in the prequel, and the last surviving red tail bomber gets a defensive assist from the Millenium Falcon.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Say it isn't Nooooooo!


    That's the final straw for me, I'm done with these movies. Tweaking outdated effects is one thing, but I always hated the Greedo shooting first and the songs in Jedi being changed. And now Lucas wants to ruin the one true emotional moment of the entire OT. It was always amazing to me how an actor in an immovable mask could convey so much with a few turns of the head. I can only imagine how cheesy this will be. I recently showed the Episode IV DVD to my son for the first time and the changes bothered me more this time. Every added scene like Jabba and Han talking and all the creatures when they arrive at Mois Eisley are just so glaringly different visually than the rest of the movie that they just don't work. I could tell my son was wondering during those scenes "Why doesn't the whole movie look like this?" I just realized what a shame it is that he will never experience the OT as I did. Unless I break out the Laserdisc player. I think lucas is out of control at this point, as other people mentioned, he didn't even direct Empire or Jedi. I realize it's his baby, but that would be like Spielberg tinkering with movies he strictly produced. It's kind of ballsy to tinker with other people's work like that. I don't think I will spend another cent on these movies unless the OT is released in HD format. A VHS copy of the prequels recorded from cable on SLP would suffice as far as I'm concerned.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    murdermostfowl. You're on the money

    by magnetoelectric

    The "video game backdrops" dig aside, Anytime theres actual actors on a real physical set:PQ looks fantastic. But anytime theres obvious bluescreen going on ,all this judder comes out to rear its ugly fuckin head. For the life of me I cant figure why thats happening ..

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Now Terror in the Aisles I would love to see again.


    I ate that shit up when I was younger. There are some really well edited sequences of clips in that flick, most memorably the one that ends with Leatherface slamming the steel door. Is that really an extra on the Halloween II Blu? Jamie Lee Curtis Halloween II or Rob Zombie Halloween 2?

  • Yeah, the movie still sucks though, right?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST

    StarWars made me love film; however...

    by VermithraxPejorative

    I'm officially done with these films. It's bad enough the prequels make me think differently of the original series I once loved (I have to think of Darth Vader as a whiney bitch now?), bu the original trilogy is massacred with changes. For the special editions, the Greedo shooting first, and the RotJ dance number almost made me loose my cool, but I forgave it. THEN, the dvd's with Hayden Christianson at the end really pushed me near the edge... NOW, this infamous "NOOOooooooooo" at the end of ROTJ seals the deal. Once of the very best movie moments completely RUINED with moronic dialogue. Sad part is I like some of the asthetic changes like fixing matt lines and cleaning up some of the footage, but damn I am DONE. Some people are upset, but this truly is a film tragedy if you love and appreciate art... It's like Shakespeare will come back from the dead to make Macbeth a comedic musical and burn the original so no one else can ever appreciate it again. Not that Lucas is anything like Mr. W.S.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Northtronic, is that your simple reasoning?

    by VermithraxPejorative

    The truth is this is a true philisophical argument and by you even saying that lets me think you know little about art appreciation. Does the creator have the moral right to destroy his own work? My argument would be emphatically NO. The legal right, yes, but that's a different story. I used the comparison already, but if Shakespeare could alter all his work for the worse, and force us to chose these versions do you think that's morally okay of him to do that? What if The Beatles rewrote all their songs and made the older versions obsolete? Art exists outside the creator and belongs to the world to appreciate. What Lucas is doing is fundamentally wrong. HE CAN change it if he likes, but really, he is doing a tremendous amount of disservice to the films and his fans. Do these changes make the films better or worse? We had our favorite films replaced by a moronic cartoon, it's not OKAY.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Aesthetic changes do not ruin movies

    by sdc10

    Jesus Christ people give it a rest. Does adding an extra alien in the background of a movie really ruin the experience of watching it? I mean it is not like he went back and said "Fuck it, at the end of Jedi the Empire wins now". An extra dewback in the background isnt going to make me enjoy these movies any less. Quit your bitching, grow up, move on.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST

    He beat me, straight up. Pay him. Pay that man his money

    by PurityControl

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:58 p.m. CST

    CGI Yoda

    by Shubniggorath

    Fixing Yoda in Ep1 does NOT in any way mitigate the removal of the Greatest Muppet of All Time from Empire.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Fap all you want on the Blu release - still not buying it

    by Red

    I have the ORIGINAL THEATRICAL RELEASES on DVD. The rest is just rubbish.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:12 p.m. CST


    by vettebro

    Original Yoda is amazing. It's art. Frank Oz's performance is unquestionable. Yet someone questioned it, and Lucas approved the change. WTF? I have to admit that when I saw ROTJ at the theater way back then, I was very disappointed at the demasking of Vader reveal. I always thought Vader would look like a war torn battle hardened Marine. Someone like Stephen Lange would have been more appropriate. Shaw was not. My whole image of Vader is ruined. It all started with ROTJ. Vader WAS one of the all time ultimate villians. Now he just a "whiny bitch".

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Goddammit Lucas.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • yeah it does.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Dave Lister would Kick Han Solo's ASS

    by George Homewood

    New Red dwarf series X confirmed. C-3po can lick Kryten's metallic bollocks. Soon, these star wars DVDs will be a completely different film...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Anyone who buys these blu-rays is a fucking scab...

    by Nerd Rage

    Show a shred of self control and dignity and tell Lucas to fuck off until he gives us the unaltered versions of the OT. If the sales were disappointing they would be forced to acknowledge our simple demands. Don't be a bitch and give in.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Star Wars fans are little bitches

    by George Homewood

    Star Wars does not have the world's largest following. James Bond does. Get your facts straight, liver tits.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by vettebro

    Lucas is saving the OT for another future release so he can make even MORE $$$ in a couple of years. He knows that fans want that more than anything. I'm not against "clean-up" and very minor "enhancements". Just don't fuck up a classic scene with bad dialog, or changing the impact of it with new PC bullshit. (Greedo) I would a new disc set if that happened. I'm NOT buying these. Fuck you GL.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Boycotting Lucas as best I can.

    by PopcornJockey

    I've honestly come to the point where, if I hear George Lucas's name is attached to something, my first reaction is "screw him, he doesn't get my money." I'm not going to see Red Tails (even though it looks good). I'm not going to play the Old Republic MMORPG (even though I *like* those kinds of games, and playing a Jedi character sounds very cool). And I'm not even tempted to buy the Star Wars blu-rays.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:27 p.m. CST

    george aint stupid

    by George Homewood

    He's probably gearing up for three more ridiculous films

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Example: the Mos Eisely Station.

    by KilliK

    In the Original UNFUCKED Trilogy,you got the exposition from Kenobi that Eisely station was a very dangerous place. The scenery of the Station itself was set up in a way that it reflected that fact: stationed in a remote,secluded, location,in the middle of nowhere,sinking in its own decay (scraps in the background) and boredom(streets filled with people walking slowly and minding their business). it was like one one of those barren border-towns you usually see in the Westerns,where you know there are filled with every kind of a lowlife. Thus the visual of Mos Eisely enhanced and presented the fact that it was indeed a ' "wretched hive of scum and villainy." But in the FUCKED UP Editions,what you get now: Streets infested with droids which do various things in every fucking frame of the scene.The impression of a quite and slow western border-town is ruined and instead is replaced by the impression of a very lively and noisy industrial town. That's how unnecessary additions can destroy the atmosphere of a scene and from there the whole experience of the movie.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST


    by PurityControl

    I would like to believe the OT is being cleaned up for a future release but George and his minions have stated that the original trilogy was destroyed and does not exist anymore and George is crazy enough to do it. They also send agents to movie theaters that try to play prints of the original trilogy to confiscate them. I don't know. We might be stuck with our VHS copies, Laserdiscs and the horrid official dvd release in non-anamorphic letterbox. After those rot away it will have to be passed down through oral tradition how the movies were originally, with a Chorus explaining what should and should not be seen.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:36 p.m. CST

    killik - you're dead on.

    by PopcornJockey

    90% of what Lucas adds is like a little sideshow carnival, irrelevant and distracting. Every great artist knows that at a certain point your work is done, and you STOP SCREWING WITH IT. Because you can do too much and ruin that perfect balance your creation had. He's done that plus some.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I'd only buy these IF...

    by catlettuce4

    ... if he added the "Noooo!" scream to the scene where Vader's TIE fighter spins out of control in ANH, and the scene where the Falcon escapes his clutches at Bespin. Only then will Vader's catchphrase make sense and be a part of all movies in which Anakin wore the armor and breath mask. Just kidding, I will never ever buy a version of these films until they are properly and totally restored. And I will not buy the prequel trilogy period, as they are sub-par as films and terrible as Star Wars films. I'm curious to see how these do, and hope people who care about the preservation of important films and those who are disappointed by the changes will not buy them. If you buy these then you have no business bitching about what he has done.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Liver tits?

    by Roger Moon

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    It amazes me how many dudes have never seen a real live vagina before!

    by Darth Philbin

    George Lucas will undoubtedly have a difficult time paying his mortgage in October as a result of the 54 mouth-breathers that have refused to buy the new Blu-Ray set.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:43 p.m. CST


    by vettebro

    maybe we'll get lucky and find untarnished OT prints in the salt mines movie vaults. maybe the guards are fans of the OT and won't let GL or his entourage in to destroy them. we can only hope...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:43 p.m. CST

    sdc10 you don't get it.

    by catlettuce4

    You clearly have a poor grasp of the situation and what is really going on. Even if every change made was for the better (Which they aren't) it is wrong to permanently alter these movies and not provide the originals as well. They are an important piece of film history, and Lucas is being an ass about that. It's not a matter of "does it bother me or not." And for the record, yes, the little pointless changes do, in fact, ruin the whole movie for me, as it is not what I grew up with. They grate on my brain, and I refuse to watch them that way ever again. Why should I?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST

    I just did a 1-star Amazon review

    by SmokingRobot

    Because I couldn't figure out how to give it zero stars.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:50 p.m. CST

    childhood revision

    by PurityControl

    My best Star Wars memories were watching the OT on betamax on a pretty crappy 30in tv in mono over and over and over again. Lucass is fucking with my and our collective childhood here. He could make so much more money if he included the OT and that is without jacking the price up. He could charge 100 dollars more and we would gladly pay it. This isn't about money, this is George wanting us to hate him because he enjoys it or because he resents his success and reclusion/suckage as a director because of it.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    darth philbin...

    by vettebro

    I just fucked your girlfriend and Mom's vagina last night. Doh! : )

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:53 p.m. CST

    catlettuc44 - couldn't have said that better myself.

    by PopcornJockey

    When a piece of art is truly beloved, and appreciated, it's every nuance is mapped out in memory. So there are no "tiny" changes. If Paul McCartney went back and added some random flourish of harpsichord to "Hey Jude" I'd never listen to that version, ever. It would drive be like biting onto a cherry pit.

  • Sorry, typo.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Damn. Did it again.

    by PopcornJockey

    Goodnight.... ugh.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Young Anakin at end of ROTJ was an ok change

    by capn vic

    I never had a problem with replacing Shaw with Hayden at end of ROTJ because Anakin never could have looked like Shaw in the first place! I always had a problem with the ghost image of Shaw because Anakin was supposed to have been badly scarred when he was younger to the point that he needed the Vader armor to survive so if he was so badly wounded when he was a young man he could have never appeared as an unscarred older man the way he looked as ghostly Anakin. It would have made more sense to have him appear as he did when his mask was removed - as a scarred and hairless old man. That wouldn't have looked right either so replacing him with Hayden makes sense.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Such pure BS, Harry

    by Vicconius

    I won't be giving this guy any more of my money.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    For the record, that's not Bail Organa, it's Bail Antilles

    by D.Vader

    Someone up above pointed this out but thought the name had been changed. No true, he was always Bail Antilles. Since way back in '99.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    No PT for me. I'll miss the OT extras that I want, but not paying for that crap again.

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Half boycott, it's a start...

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Oh and I recently watched one of the Ewok movies with my son.

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Quite crappy, but it reminded me more about my childhood with SW than anything in the Prequels.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I'm done!

    by Zardoz

    Good memo, Harry! Makes a lot of sense. Kids today have NO idea what we old timers are bitching about! It won't even be an issue for them, at all. A young friend of mine has never seen ANY of the Star Wars movies and he won't know the difference when he buys the BD's and watches them for the first time next week. Lucas wins! I'm not gonna buy the movies this round, not because of the changes, but because I've bought these films on every new release, from VHS to Laser to DVD and frankly: I'm tired of it! I've given enough money to Lucas! The DVD's (of the OT!) are plenty good enough for me, and so are my wonderful, non-raped memories of the first time I saw the original trilogy in the theater. May the Force be with you. Always!

  • Shit take on editing, man. I hope someone draws dicks on everything you own so you can have WTF moments with those closest to you.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST

    We can only live in hope...

    by MidnightSkulker

    I have to say, I'm not sulking, I'm not outraged, I'm not railing against Lucas for raping my childhood or anything else. The fact is, if pristine copies of the original trilogy ever do materialize, I will immediately buy them. But I simply have no interest in owning any copies of the altered versions, or anything at all to do with the new trilogy. He can release a new version every three months for the next twenty-five years and it doesn't matter to me one bit. There must be dozens of movies I don't purchase every single month -- these are just a few more. Movies I don't buy don't affect me one way or the other. I sure do hope I can one day own the *original* original trilogy on a better medium than VHS. But if not, it's far from the biggest disappointment in my life.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST


    by TheJudger

    Enough of this man-child shit, enough! I was at a supermarket not to long ago. They had Star Wars Birthday cards. Not for Sons or Daughters. For Nephews and Nieces! You people who are still hard up into this shit. You need to get fucking laid. Whats that too geeky or fat or something else. Stop stuffing your fucking face and work out! Everyfucking day. Dont take one day off. do free weights start light. Search youtubve for exercises. Stick to it. Eat lots of tuna and brown rice and egg whites. Stop living like this! Hit on some chicks. Stop fearin them. Be respectful, be confident. For god sakes get fucking laid and move on already! And if you are already in a relationship, and this is how you would rather spend your time. Fuck You!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:54 a.m. CST

    These movies are so tampered with that they are irrelevant.

    by Quake II

    I've seen Star Wars enough to always keep it near and dear but I'm not going to encourage this alteration insanity and buy any more Star Wars dvd's. Lucas should be ashamed of himself and Star Wars has become a parody anyways. I have my unaltered dvd's from laserdisc and I will ALWAYS have them Georgie-boy. I'll make sure to import them to a hard drive at some point and have them FOREVER George. So they aren't in 1080x blah blah blah. Who fucking cares? I don't want to see the crappy "new" CGI Mos Eisley and the terrible 1996 added "creatures" that scamper around in high-def anyways. Those effects were dated when they came out. In fact 90% of the additions are horrible and ruin the films.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'd be excited about this if the films were re-edited

    by kirttrik

    re-edit episodes 1-3 ala the phantom edit, make them actually watchable, then I will think possibly of purchasing these films. Oh, I guess I also have to include 4-6 since the special editions are also unwatchable. I'm ok with polishing or improving the fx, but leave the jabba and ewok songs alone, and definitely get rid of the NOs in both ROTS and ROTJ. The PT can actually be OK when properly edited.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I'm tired of spending so much money!!1!one!

    by Ben_Richards_Bomb_Collar

    No not really. Because amazingly spending 80 bucks on Star Wars movies every 6-10 years when a new video format comes out won't put me in the poor house. I mean for fucks sake guys. I make shit money; Even then, I won't even blink an eye at dropping the money for these blurays. If the money is the main issue, maybe you should get off of AICN and spend your time reporting your employer for paying you below minimum wage.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST

    In a couple of years...

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    there'll be BluRays of the untouched Originals, but I won't be surprised if they're only available in a box set with all the other movies, so all the geeks will have to buy them all yet again. Maybe they will be in the 3D BluRay Star Wars Saga mega box set. Or in the next box set after that one, on the next thing after BluRay. Maybe an encrypetd download file where you pay a fee everytime you open it. I have allready bought the Star Wars movies often enough. Until there's untouched originals blues (in 2D, George!) I'll rather keep watching the shitty DVD transfers I have now.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST

    I have a question

    by fastman309

    aren't these his movies? doesn't he have a right to do as he see's fit with his property? what does it matter if he changes something here or there? will the world end? will babies be born dead? will it rain acid? let the man do as he see's fit with the world he created

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:24 a.m. CST

    by tazzzer

    ive said it b4 and ill say it again the reality is half of the sw saga is totally shite. ep 1 - OMG ABSOLUTE TOTAL FUCKING SHITE ep 2 - was ok had a few good moments ep 3 - cool ep 4 - look i knw it was the original but its also kinda boring ep 5 - THE GREATEST of the 6 and thats bcus George didnt direct it ep 6 - OH FUCK ME ITS EVEN MORE UTTERLY STINKY SHITE. the only one im gona see in 3d is 5. im never gona buy these blue rays in-fact fuck blue ray its all about digital download going forward so fuck knws why u guys wana blow ur cash on a dead technology.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:34 a.m. CST

    My copy dropped on my doormat yeterday and...

    by Tyefighter

    it's not that impressive. I spotted two problems with the Star Wars "A New Hope" mmrrppphhh disc. Both occured during the escape from the Death Star. During the Tie Fighter battle there is clear matting around one of the fighters and an awkward darker background on approximately one third of the screen. The rocks in front of R2 are there and they just don't look real, Greedo still shoots first and the scene where Han steps on Jabba's tail looks even worse in HD. The lightsaber still has a green tint in some scenes on the Falcon but apart from that, the same. I love the original movie but am distracted by the poor quality addditions. Don't get your hopes up.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Goddammit Lucas.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Fan Edits Saved My Life

    by topaz4206

    I've got a trio of fan edits of the PT that actually make it enjoyable -- that's all I really need. I also have HDTV rips of the OT (special edition, but at least there's no other bullshit). I think i'm good.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Headgeek does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    H, cheers for posting up my ramble, and thanks to the talkbackers who've mentioned the professionalism of the venerable institution known as the Dojo. Brethren, I bow to you... Yeah and fuck Lucas! It's a shame that LucasFilm can clean up to pristine HD quality the two ANH deleted scenes of Han meets Jabba and the Biggs and Luke reunion before the battle - but he can't clean up any of the deleted scenes on this set? Like others have mentioned maybe he doesn't want fan editors to be able to use them? I also listened to the two audio commentaries during the "No.. NOOO!" moment in ROTJ to see if an explanation would come but alas no. Just some chit chat about how they did the lightning fx.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Oh and I should make clear it's only Hayden in the ghost shot (still Shaw under the mask). We used to have a smiling father figure beaming benevolently at his son, now we have teenage Hayden giving Luke a sinister date-rapist stare.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:34 a.m. CST

    The next SW blu-ray I'm buying will be the Clone Wars Season 3.

    by ganymede3010

    There's no way in fucking hell will I purchase these. My upscaled DVD's will suffice for the time being. Can't wait for season 4 to start Sept 16th!

  • If you read forums, a lot of people were wondering what the Moff Jerjerrod scene was going to be about. Most were hopeful it was the cut choke scene, but since NO one with the BluRay is listing anything with choking as their favorite scene, I'm going to call it right now as :20 or so seconds with Jerjerrod calling for Endor's destruction. This was in the novelization and obviously was filmed (and cut). It added to the "race" near the end of the film, as well, if they didn't blow up the DS II quick enough, all the fucking ewoks on Endor were going to die along w/ 2/3 of the trio. Damn, now I can fit it back in the film, do some edits and shots from other films, and have an "ewok genocide" edit where the Empire wins. Sweet. Oh, still not buying this hunk of junk. Star Wars has been in the back of my mind since that piece of garbage called the Clone Wars. It saddens me how many fans are basically "what has George done this time?" about it. He just won't stop beating a dead horse and adding a lot of stupid fucking shit to old films. Some of the little changes I've seen are okay, visual ones, but the new NOOO, fuck off George. FUCK OFF!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Also if you watch ROTJ

    by Marat

    The DS II misfires when it is destroyed (like it was ready to fire but the reactor blew around that time), adding even more credence to the whole race element they removed. Kind of sloppy they left it in, but I've noticed it ever since I watched the film with a discerning eye.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Typo (that is significant)

    by aceldama

    This might have been mentioned by others, since it's pretty obvious, but I am not going to even bother reading the comments to find out... Article says "The ROTS deleted scenes were my favorite, with the sequence of Luke tooling his lightsaber prior to Jabba's palace being the one deleted scene with completed FX" Obviously, this should be ROTJ, not ROTS.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:12 a.m. CST

    It's like George is waiting for someone to redeem him

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Sometimes I like to imagine that there is still good in him..but it probably won't ever climb out of his neck until his dying moments. Does somebody have to sneak into his Death Star to confront him or what? But seriously, George, what the fuck happened to you man? You got stuck at the crossing of the return threshold. Give back the boon or you'll fry like Vader.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Thank you, George!

    by lagomorph

    You should all be on your hands and knees thanking Mr. Lucas for allowing you to experience what it's like when something you passionately love is destroyed before your very eyes. He's not the revisionist fucker we WANT, but goddamnit he's the revisionist fucker we NEED. He's single-handedly keeping the film restoration business alive by upping his game with each release ensuring employment for the dying industry well into the new century. And he's given us a mystery to mull over once we've figured out the meaning life.

  • Apparently, if you turn to the Dark Side when you're young, but eventually redeem yourself as a pensioner, you get to spend eternity in the Forcey-afterlife as your handsome, younger self, fucking all the hot, young Forcey-afterlife female Jedi you killed decades ago. But if you're good your whole life long, you get to spend your Forcey-afterlife as a wrinkly old cunt with dementia, arthritis, erectile dysfunction and prostate trouble. And they say turning to the Dark Side is a bad thing?!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST


    by SpaghettiWall


  • And yet... audience laughter from today's audiences would be no excuse for digitally altering 'Nosferatu' with modern day effects, would it? Whatever next; does someone get to replace the original Kong because some people think 1930s stop-motion looks a bit dated?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST


    by chuffsterUK

    The matte lines are STILL there-Cobra-Kai must be blind! Watched 4,5 and 6 with my mate yesterday-transfers are pretty disappointing :(

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    @ enderandrew, re: Blu-ray costs

    by justmyluck

    You must think the SW Blu-ray production was a start-up company and had to gather investors and dig deep into their pockets to produce the box set. No, LFL has loads of cash, going back 30 years, and plenty of below the line talent to produce that package. Relatively, what would producing a Blu-ray box set cost as a percentage of that... 0.003%? That's just a smidgen paid for by the interest of having a billion dollars in the bank and investments. Maybe FOX pitched-in...they're not a start-up Blu-ray company, either. As for the OT 'revisions', enjoy your overpriced SW Blu-ray box set. My money's going elsewhere.

  • It's just capitalism. The day he brings out the cleaned up original versions in HD will be the day we stop buying any other releases that come after it, the next one being the 3D Blu Ray.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:08 a.m. CST


    by A G

    You stupid fucks who bought this bluray boxset because you couldn't help yourself and GUESS WHAT? The transfers are SHITTY, the deleted scenes are completely untouched and look like SHIT and there are STILL errors in the basic special effects. YOU STUPID FUCKS HAHAH

  • You say that he's done a lot for film preservation . . . as much as Scorcese? I don't think so. And he's a GREAT director. Lucas is a ONE TRICK PONY. He has milked his captive, toy collecting, geek, target audience to the hilt - he's never done ANYTHING that didn't generate a small fortune. And that is ALL he's ever been about. STOP JUSTIFYING HIS APPALLING GREED. He knows that people like you (and presumably I) will buy this joke, and act out being 'film directors', or cinematic archivists', comparing our previous DVD/Video copies in the privacy of our own little homes. ENOUGH HARRY!!!!! LUCAS will NEVER LOVE YOU.

  • Suck it. And you know you're all going to buy the damn set.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    chuffsteruk, I only watched the end battle of ROTJ but saw no matte lines or boxing on that - cant speak for the other films though. GEORGE LUCAS - I AM ALTERING THE FILMS, PRAY I DO NOT ALTER THEM ANY FURTHER!!! creepythinmanforever, nice post! Got a chuckle out of me. And yes, I did make a typo on ROTS rather than ROTJ. Dagnammit!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:19 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    marat, a pair of Moff Jerjerrod scenes are there, but without music and completed fx they lack the dramatic weight they might have had if they'd been included. The first scene has Moff outside the door to the emperors chamber with the two red robed guards, and he rather rudely says to Vader he cant go in. Vader force chokes him and Moff stammers that it is the Emperors orders and then Vader says something like 'okay then, i'll wait'. It's bit weird and I don't know at what point this would have slotted into the movie.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    @ cobra--kai

    by justmyluck

    Cobra, first - TY for the concise insta-review of the SW Blu-ray set. If you want to check for the 'boxy' garbage mattes in the OT, you should turn up the levels on your monitor for increased brightness and lower contrast. I find it difficult to believe that LFL re-rotoscoped out all those traveling mattes considering things like the missing Millennium Falcon dish at Mos Eisley remain untouched (maybe you can confirm that, too). Also, is yours the Region 2 Blu-ray set shipped by Amazon for Monday's UK street date...there may be some content discrepancies. Many thanks!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:35 a.m. CST

    by HarryBlackPotter


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:36 a.m. CST

    erratum: Region bad.

    by justmyluck

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:52 a.m. CST

    That moment in Curb Your Enthusiasm?

    by gotilk

    Closer to reality than you know. No joke.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST


    by Pixelsmack

    Not only have you not pulled the ads for SW on BR but now post this bullshit filled, fairies and bunnies, review of 3 shitty/tragic films of the SW saga along side the 3 original-now-bastardized films on BR for us all to read? P.S. Love the 500 paragraphs dedicated to telling us why Lucas isn't insane too.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Star Wars 3D release - your thoughts

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

    What I'd like to know is how Lucas intends to convince everyone to head to the cinema & pay the premium for the 3D re-releases starting in 2012, so soon after the blu rays. Are there going to be further changes & what is he going to come up with?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Watched Empire Strikes Blu Ray

    by hobbitfeet

    I was lucky enough to part of a group selected through HMV in the UK to watch The Empire Strikes Back on Blu Ray at the Fox HQ in Soho and I have to say it was like watching it all over again. I was worried that the effects wouldn't hold up, especially on the large screen, but they have done a great job. I loved seeing the craftsmanship you can see in the Yoda puppet (yes he's not CG) the Bespin sets and amazing costume design where you can now see every stitch. There were a few subtle changes but nothing jolting. Certainly no "nnooooo" moments and even Lukes fall remains a silent one. I'm sure when I watch the Blu Rays in full (taken the day off on Monday to experience it) there will be changes that will make wonder what Lucas was smoking, but honestly this is his 'hot rod'. Lucas's passion has always been tinkering with things - and it nearly killed him. You could say he should have learned back in '62. So yes, he's added flames, nitrous and pinstripping, but it will always be Star Wars.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    If you buy this and complain about it

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I feel like you have more right to talk shit. However if you are just on the sidelines, opted not to buy and are still whining about the issues then you are hopeless. Yeah Vader's noooos, Luke's inconsistent blue light saber (which was promised to be fixed) and a few other things are bothersome, but if you don't own the set anyway then why would you remotely give a fuck? You wouldn't catch ,me sitting around complaining about the extreme DNR done to Predator, because I spoke with my wallet and left that disc on the shelf. The story behind this release has been insane. If you don't believe me go check out the "reviews" over on amazon - but understand that 99% of the reviews were actually made 72 months ago by trolls who simply want the OOT.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I think the main selling point of the 3D releases will simply be seeing the movies in 3D. But for the more hardcore SW fans an additional perk may be that the 3D releases will be extended cuts or perhaps even have a few more changes and fixes here and there. At this point we should assume with every new major SW release GL will tinker. On the plus side - the 3D process requires every second of every shot to be looked at and this insures the possibility that remaining issues such as color corrections, inconsistent light sabers, matte lines and boxes will likely be fixed. (you know stuff that should have been taken care of 1997 or at the very least 2004) There are moments in all 6 movies that should look epic in 3D. The pod race in TPM The opening shot of ROTS The DS trench run The battle on Hoth with the ATATs Han and co/ in the asteroid field The speeder-bike chase on Endor....etc...

  • ... instead of seeing the dogshit there and leaving it alone. Great advice!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    yes, all the SW OT minature work will look so epic in 3-D...

    by justmyluck separating the miniatures from the backgrounds and poking you in the eye with them. More CG replacements on the way!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST


    by LargoJr

    Go ahead and swallow every spurt of Lucas Jizz you can take.. sobbing fitfully the whole time. I've got my 'Definitive Collection' Laserdisc Boxset of the Original Trilogy & continue to love & celebrate their unblemished/untarnished magnificence. I will never have to sit thru Georgie's syphilis-induced hallucinatory attempts to recapture whatever shred of imagination and/or hunger to create he once held. And for anyone who yet again ponies up for yet another sub-par disc release just because it's on new tech & format, I pity you.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Goddammit George.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Goddammit George.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    When I grow up, I want to be as cool as largojr.

    by Mugato5150

    Laser Disc? Don't you have to flip it over half way through the film?

  • fucking idiots

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:53 a.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I didn't mean -fucking idiots- I meant -fucking cunts- but really either would do

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9 a.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    waghhhhhhh lucas spurtz cum releases and u buy it waghhhhh separate da miniatures from da backgrounds and poke you in da eye with them waghhhhhhhhh 3D sucksssssss waghhhhhhhhhhhh CG sucks waghhhhhhhhhhh laszer disc waghhhhhhhhhhh i want i want i want waghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    My least favorite change was SE pre-DVD and Blu Ray

    by Jay Eyler

    The most blasphemous move in the whole franchise is not Greedo shooting first. It's removing the Ewoks' Nyub Nyub song. The song that replaced it is gay for days.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    All the same arguments aside...

    by NightArrows

    This was one fucking stupid article, Harry. Seriously. What a load of bullshit. Fuck you Harry, fuck you. And another big FUCK YOU goes out to the shit stains who defend Lucas for this bullshit.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Are you that fucking stupid that you have to fucking ask 'Why would you be upset if you aren't buying the set'? Seriously? Here's a fucking reason you birth defect: BECAUSE WE WANT A CLEANED-UP VERSION PRESENTED IN HD WITHOUT ALL THE FUCKING ADDED BULLSHIT. How's that you fucking cunt? And no, I don't want a fan edit. And no, I don't want some version scraped together from different cuts. I want it from the source. We all do. Cunt.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Die in a fire, tard.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    He's going to digitally insert Katie as Jabba's wife.

    by NightArrows


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Lucas is reading this talkback and masturbating.FACT.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Blinking Ewoks?

    by Dazzler69

    Just wondering about that. I wonder if they will cgi blinks on all the races?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai = Is a little faggot and a well known pedophile

    by michael

    sincerely, Mjs_Corpse

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Maybe you should go register on amazon and give the blu ray another 1 star review. Doing that wont get you a girlfriend, a job, a life and unfortunately it wont wash the taste of your uncle's penis from your mouth....but maybe it will make you feel better. or maye just continue to whine like the bitch you are. waghhhhhhhhhh i want the OT waghhhhhhhhh I hate you George waghhhhhhhhhh OT OT OT waghhhhhhhhh

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Geroge Lucas has turned to the Dark Side.

    by Franck

    The End.

  • She's the fat blue alien standing behind rolling her eyes at the stupid dialogue. It's hilarious

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    The deathstar pr site is hilarious

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    it's 2011, the OT is NOT being released again on blu ray

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    wake the fuck up idiots, it's not happening. any half sane person would have realized you wont see a decent version of the OT in stores anytime soon and MOVED THE FUCK ON. nightarrows and everyone else - stop living in your self absorbed frustration ridden jerkoff reality where you are fighting a cause to get the OT released. nobody (who matters) gives a shit - there's more important things in this world to be concerned with other then fucking nub nub and han shooting greedo you are a fucking retarded cunt wasting away your life if you are still on the internet CRYING and getting emotional about the OT.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    By the time the 3D releases are out...

    by Nice Marmot

    ... Hamil will be replaced by Zack Efron.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    mugato5150: No.. that would be a 'vinyl', 'LP', or record

    by LargoJr

    Good players don't need flipping. BTW... Japan had 1080 hi-def TVs back in early 80's. Went well with Hi-vue 1080i Laserdiscs & players. Also.. that's why Blu beat HD-DVD.. it was 1st, it was more technologically evolved, and it worked better. Companies wanted something they could monopolize though.. they did the same thing with VHS... but THIS time Sony was ready, and in a bloody war of attrition they couldn't lose with working technology & MOST of the bugs already worked out >_< Enjoy those Blu-rays kiddies...... BWAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!

  • I will not be buying the Blu Rays but will download all movies instead of supporting unnecessary changes to these films. Vote with your wallets people.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    star wars was over for me

    by mick vance

    the day i stopped masturbating to carrie fisher in episode 4. not sure why, but the golden bikini never did it for me. i like her in her white tunic thing. plus, knowing she just had tape over her tits was kind of a turn-on...

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    I'm not buying the Bluray set.

    by Badger23

    I also have a feeling that one day, hopefully a long time from now, the person making the decisions about this property will not always be George.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    yeah vote with your wallets

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    don't buy it and just move on and forget about star wars go watch robocop or plant a fucking tree dont hang around on the internets crying and whining about being "ripped off" by lucas

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Fuck. I just heard that the set is in DTS master audio.

    by UltraTron

    Oh well. Buyin it. Let's face it. Starwars is all about that star destroyer flying over and the opening scene. You just get up and go to the bathroom during Han/gweedo. Empire is mostly un-fucked. And again- bathroom break at end of Jedi. Poof. Fixed it. All better now. And if you think about it. You've gone to the bathroom and missed parts of movies you've enjoyed your whole life

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    As mean as fat as the nanny let them get

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I love StarWars but I'm still not buying this set

    by skycrapper

    Sorry, no ... NOOOOOO, is where I cross the line. I'll catch it on the next release where they've fixed it.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Haven't bought a single SW item since Greedo shot first.

    by tradeskilz

    You fucking nerds should have followed suit. But no, you just had to lick up ever bit of Lucas cum.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Star wars blu ray? just say Noooooooo

    by fookinmonkeyzod this is why the new new new versions are rubbish

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    "Female Rebel pilots in the cockpit"???????

    by Lucifer Haywood


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Hayden as Ghost

    by the1980mutant

    My only problem with the logic is that they should have the Ewen McGregor ghost beside him. They both lived to be old men so both should be old men ghosts. I guess you just get to choose when you crossover and Old Ben preferred his old wrinkly balls.....

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST


    by OldDickLemon

    In 2006 Uncle George gave all the pasty skinned basement dwellers exactly what they'd been crying about and nobody bought the damn thing. The SE outsold it 20 to 1. They had your chance to be heard, with your wallets, and they still found something to bitch about. The OOT is dead, deal with it. In a weeks time I'll be enjoying Star Wars in Bluray in my home theatre while the purists will be watching VHS copies on their 12 inch sets in the basement. Oh and Adywan is a fucking hack. Oooo, more star fields! What a genius. That dipshit removes Leias reaction to Alderran and Tarkins final shot as the Death Star blows, but he's a hero while George is ridiculed for not tweaking every single solitary lightsaber shot, whole simultaneously getting ridiculed for making any changes at all. Seriously, you people are fucking retard.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST


    by la_sith

    ...and download it. It's a fan edit and cleaned up version of the original trilogy. No bullshit tweaks, no CG dinos in Mos Eisley, no CG disco party in Jabba's Palace, and Han shoots first. I used to be a Lucas apologist (I even found the prequels to be semi-enjoyable), but this latest round of tweaks made my blood boil. Sorry, won't purchase. Just get the version above and wait for the reak Original Trilogy to come out. It'll happen someday. I will outlive Lucas.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    I'll stick with reading the books


    The Thrawn Trilogy, Rogue Squadron, New Jedi Order...buying BDs? Um, maybe on eBay in a year.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Here's how I would have done the final

    by BoyNamedSue

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Here's how I would have done the final

    by BoyNamedSue

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Ok, so which version of Star Wars

    by maxjohnson1971

    is in the National Film Registry? I mean the point of that thing is to preserve film and Star Wars and Empire are in there. So which versions are there? If they are the original, unmolested versions, Lucas is full of shit saying the originals no longer really exist. And if they ARE the originals, I guess Lucas better break in there and replace them with the latest versions. I, for one, won't be buying these. I'm sticking with the THX Laserdiscs.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, noon CST

    And the voice of the emperor in "Empire" is...

    by Tyefighter

    Clive Revill. And Luke still isn't looking at the fucking Millennium Falcon when it leaves the base on Hoth. Oh and if Lucasfilm have kindly given us a boxset of just the original trilogy if we want to imagine (as we all do) that the prequels don't exist, why has it still got Hayden fuckwit dingbat crapsatchel Christenson in one scene at the end of Jedi? Empire on Blu Ray is better than the DVD and the image is better than Star Wars

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    How the ROTJ ghost scene should have been done

    by BoyNamedSue

    Luke sees Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin as their older selves.....cut to Leia inviting Luke to join the celebrations....then cut to ghost Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin as their younger selves. I always believed we look like our prime years in the afterlife anyway....Sorry about the two prior failed posts (STUPID iPhone)

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    A cheeseburger asking to suck your dick???

    by fookinmonkeyzod

    Ha ha watch out for chilli sauce, toothpaste also has this effect!

  • The CGI Yoda was awful. Sue me, but it's the truth.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Nope. Not buying it, sorry. Fuck Lucas and fuck these blurays.

    by NeonFrisbee

    I'm fine with the COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY AND STUPID changes on the dvds. None of them were dealbreakers. Ruining one of the best scenes of the entire trilogy, though? Dealbreaker. Go fuck yourself George. Go fuck yourself for going out of your way to completely ruin a once beloved pop-cultural artifact, now a sad, terrible joke.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Blu ray

    by johnny_alpha

    Is it me, or can you see Ripley's hairy bush when she wakes up on the Sulaco? Wow, I love blu ray.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    To put an end to this miserable debate

    by Franck

    Lucas should should have just inserted the OT somewhere in the Blue-Ray Set, maybe as additional DVD's and that would have been the end of it. Why hasn't he done it despite the obvious demand ? Definitely not because of creative differences, he altered them so many times it wouldn't matter now. To fuck with people, just because he can? May be, may be not. But the one sure thing is that he lacks respect for fans, those millions who feel this way, that have contributed alltogether lot of their hard earned money towards the movies, toys, you name it. Those just want the OT on a decent format, available to all. Simple. Lucas, if they want it, why not give it to them? Come back to the bright side George, you'll make some of your movies biggets fan happy, and that'll be it.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    what's the next step Cobra?

    by Roger Moon

    Empire or Total Film?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    re: johnny_alpha

    by LargoJr

    If you're a fan of Jessica Alba.... DON'T watch Fantastic 4 on Blu-ray... *shudder* Bitch has got acne like you would not BELIEVE You can see how they layered on foundation to try and smooth it out, but that only works for standard def. It hits you right smack in the face every time they pull in for a close reaction shot. :(

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    re: maxjohnson1971

    by LargoJr

    I salute you sir! My black lockface boxset Definitive Collection salutes you TOO!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    The Prequel CGI

    by A G

    Is INCREDIBLY outdated ALREADY. This is what happens when you over use CGI to the point of it being the thrust of the film. The Clone Wars will need a 100% full overhaul in special effects within a decade or it will look to bad to be marketable.

  • Just askin... >_<

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    "HAHAHAHA" - Gene Roddenbery's ghost

    by picardsucks


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Money Grubbing? REALLY?!?!

    by TDH1138

    OHHHH, the Money Grubbing Lucas is NOW going to give us the Blu Ray set of the OT with remastered picture and sound?!?!? He's fixing the Picture and sound?!?!? NO ALTERATIONS, GEORGE!!!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    And NO...George is NOT reading this and Masturbating...

    by conspiracy

    Stroking Georges speckled pig cock is Rick McCallums job; one he obviously does very well.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST


    by TDH1138

    Someone went and completely edited my Talkback. Go fuck yourselves. This site is a joke. Unless some Director invites Harry and the rest of the tools onset and kisses their ass, they give them nothing but shitty reviews.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I don't think we were that prepared for all the SE changes.

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    I think we were all just excited to share them again with friends and family. Now, AFTER the TPM, we were all like........wait, what? Then we really started questioning Lucas' credibility. I was ok with some things in the SE. Just not the dance sequence in Jedi. The DVD's are another story tho.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Planty McPlantplant.

    by Deathpool

    Nah just kidding Cobra, but it wouldn't be an AICN review without someone saying it. I'm holding off on buying these until the inevitable Super-Ultro-Megaplatinum editions in a couple years.

  • Yeah, I put up the same content on a TB for George the other day: Goddammit, George... NO! Published at: Aug 30, 2011 6:55:51 PM CDT Aug 31, 2011 12:22:53 PM CDT Pretty sure George Lucas is Banksy or... by babblerouser "He is using the fact that the ONLY thing we want is the original cut of Hope/Emp/Jedi to fill his pockets, knowing we'll buy this shit in the meantime. My thoughts: His last will and testament states that upon his death, that the true originals will be formatted into what ever is the "greatest" format of date he passes on. Thereby allowing him the knowledge that upon his passing, he will have left his greatest body of work in it's best format..." ...until then, he's just fucking with us.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    You can steal my sandwich - but keep away from my IP

    by babblerouser

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    There is no mysterey to me about why Lucas does this

    by Monolith_Jones

    He is simply trying to keep these movies from looking old. He wants the kids of today and tomorrow to feel like it's "theirs" and not just the movie their dad likes. He's completely wrong in my opinion. Kids will accept anything as long as the story engages them.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST

    You can snag my fritos bag - but lay off my meat.

    by babblerouser

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Goddammit George.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Just cancelled my preorder @ Amazon...

    by Jason Moore

    I wish it didn't have to come to this. I wanted to see the special features, but the only movie I would have ended up watching was "Revenge of the Sith". I still hold out hope that Lucas will wake up one day and decide to respect film history by preserving the original cuts and not forcing these imposter versions on us. Hell, Vader eventually came to his senses, so anything's possible right?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Is Yoda Dagobah scene added back into ROTS blu-ray?

    by Winston Smith

    I was gonna get this, but now I'll pass and wait or just be happy with the DVDs. Like an above guy said, the only one I probably would have watched is Revenge of the Sith... since the first 2 prequels are worthless, and I have the dual OT and 2004 edition DVDs (admittedly, Empire's special edition is like Blade Runner: The Final Cut, all minor stuff that just finetunes a masterpiece rather than changes it). I am curious, though, was the Yoda Dagobah scene added back into ROTS???

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    lucas is trying to be the hero of his own film

    by mick vance

    you see, in the original trilogy, it seemed to be more luke's story than vader's; however, the prequels turn the whole series into anakin's story of loss and redemption. lucas is now trying to sell his soul for money, or it would appear that way to all the nerds. once the 3d movies have been released, lucas will say he's suddenly realized the error of his ways, release bluray versions of the orignals, and have all the star wars nerds carry him through the street on their shoulders. you're all just puppets on his strings...

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Nice try you fuck waste. Project your failure of a life all you want over me and anyone else who doesn't like having something they love shit on. But the fact remains, you are a fucking moron, who couldn't figure out why anyone who wasn't buying the set would have a gripe. I enlightened you as to why you are a fucking idiot. I'm not crying, nor am I rampaging around trying to get the OT released on Bluray as it was scene in the theaters. I simply comment on the situation as I see it, whether it's the topic of a thread, or in real life where little cunts like yourself wouldn't have the balls to say any of the shit you do on the internet, in person. Now, run along, grab the bluray set and go die in a fire you dumb cocksucking prick. I've wasted enough time on you. Shit stain ball licking little spent condom that you are.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    no yoda scene added back in. my biggest problem is ...

    by tHEgREATgABBO

    in the phantom menace qui gon leaves with anakin to go to the ship and fly to coroscont and then we cut to one of darth mauls probes coming back to him and he rides off on his speedermachine. Than we cut to anakin and qui gon running to the ship for no reason known, Anakin says "qui gon sir, slow down i'm tired" but qui gon keeps running, i think wouldn't this guy slow down for this kid he just took away from his mother, home and lifestyle, and give him a break? here's my problem, there's an extra scene that shows one of darth mauls probes actually encountering quigon and anakin on way to the ship, he awesomely cuts it down with a lightsabre chop and says "come on" they start running. this scene explains why they are running, is less than a minute long and shows a cool lightsabre chop, it would be an incredibly dumb move not to leave it in the final cut of the film. but it's now just a forgotten extra scene on the old dvd release.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Nice try you fucking stain. He released it in a shitty, dirty transfer without any cleanup. So why would it outsell the SE? People already had copies in that state. I'm glad there's idiots like you who will be watching and supporting this shit. It gives the Darwin awards content. Like when that 'home theatre' of yours burns down around you because you had too many candles burning as you jerked off to the new additional material.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I don't get the whole "it's about money" thing...

    by OldDickLemon

    If Lucas was truly all about the money, he'd release new editions annually (like new King of of the Geeks, James Cameron does). Between LD, VHS, DVD and Bluray, T2 has been released more than 20 times. Star Wars, on the other hand, has been released, what 5-6 times across those platforms? One of which was only released to shut up the fanboys, and they still weren't happy. Lucas has also always waited until a new media platform was well established before releasing on it. Someone who's trying to squeeze every buck out of the consumer would release a poor edition at the birth of a new format, then a remaster once it's been established, then a directors cut, then an extended edition, then a special judgment day edition, etc etc etc. He's really damned either way. His biggest sin is being a tinkerer, but by god people you've had 14 years to come to terms with that, time to get over it.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST


    by DarthBlart

    fans are gonna be pissed when they finnally get to end of the 6 movie marathon with rotj and witness during the end fireworks scene an elder jar jar binks actually falling off the planet naboo through space and landing on the moon of endor right on han solos shoulders as he grabs him and circles around in a confused panic and also sebulba comes out of the bathroom in jedi in jabbas palace while everyone, including the pigcops are sleeping, walking on his stupid arms

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Ewoks' Nyub Nyub song

    by Titus05

    was not very good or memorable...the new song/music is actually one of Lucas' best changes

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    @ titus05, agree it's better now as a background track...

    by justmyluck

    ... though the original end of ROTJ was the Ewoks actually singing. GL changed it to a Bespin/Tatooine/Coruscant score with the ''Weesa free!'' crap worse than the Ewoks and, as I mentioned earlier, the cumulative effect of the CG montage, music change and Hayden switch just made the whole thing fly like a lead balloon. I knew when I purchased the ROTJ soundtrack in '83, a few weeks before the movie opened, that something was WRONG with the sequel to TESB.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Damn, this TB has degenerated into a dwarf toss.

    by justmyluck

    My dipshit meter is buried in the red.

  • And you guys complained about me because of Abrams Trek? You are all 1000 times worst! You should listen to yourselves! Hillarious!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    What the F+@# Ever

    by Steve Buckman

    I doubt if Lucasfilm even bothers with a 'bot to read what anyone says about these releases, let alone caring what I have to say. I post this because I just want to get it off my sunken chest: Mr. Lucas: Could you NOT have spent the money to fix the Luke/Treadwell/Tosche (sp?) Station scene to make it look and sound appropriate? How about the sand-storm scene in Jedi? I mean, for f@#+'s sake, you have the technology and the money, couldn't you just have given us THIS little bit? Decent prints of these two lost scenes? I would have certainly sucked it up and purchased the new dvd's if you had done this. Now I'll wait and look at the free content when someone posts it on the internet. I just don't care about crappy extras that I have seen in other formats, etc. I just wanted to see the scenes we know exist, and that they were done correctly. Now....

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    @jbbb: of course LFL/FOX have the deleted scene negatives ....

    by justmyluck

    ... but it's obvious GL doesn't want those scenes seamlessly reincorporated into fan edits. Case in point: the deleted scene of Jabba at Mos Eisley and Biggs in the Yavin Hangar .. fresh and minty for the SW SE in '97.

  • with crystal clear picture and sound quality in a BR or DVD digital format. But the Original SW movies in a clean,restored,remastered and UNTOUCHED digital form,simply dont exist anywhere because their creator is determined to shove his own 'vision' to the throats of the fans despite their cries for a proper release of the OT and despite the fact that they are the people who made him reach after all. The only digital form of those movies are the Laserdiscs and that was 20 years ago.The DVD release is a plain copy of those Laserdisks and nothing else. Now since you are a ST fan imagine this scenario: JJ holds all the rights of all the ST property and decides that his own vision of the ST universe is the best of all.So he destroys all the digital mediums which hold all the original movies and series thus making it impossible to find the original stuff anywhere except in some old,worn out videotapes. Then he starts tampering with the original movies and series,making a lot of changes and additions in order to make them an undistinguished part of the newest,rebooted ST trilogy which he has just made. Eventually the only ST movies and series which you can find in all the digital mediums are the altered versions of the original ones and the new rebooted movies,all those done by JJ himself,in other words you choice of ST is JJ's vision and nothing else. And i am asking would you be happy if that scenario had happened in reality or you would have turned mad against JJ and started reviling against him in every chance?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    reach = rich

    by KilliK

    goddammit edit.goddammit.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Harry, I've never directly addressed you...

    by Vindibudd

    But man, it sounds like you've been kicked in the balls so much that now you are just curious to see whether the next shot to the pills will be a round house kick or a soccer style punt. All I can say is that I have no control over what Lucas does with his stuff. Most people like you said don't give a damn about "small" character things like Han being turned into a morally upright individual thus destroying his character development arch and so I just take it as it is. It irritates me but I am not going to take an active interest in what he does next. When he decides to release star wars unaltered then I'll happily buy it but I'm not going to boycott it until that point. I just don't care enough about it because I have no control over it.

  • In the actual film, Darth Vader says 'No, I am your father.' However, most people seem to think that he says 'No, Luke; I am your father.' Somehow that version has been misquoted again and again, and it's the one that has taken root in our collective pop-cultural consciousness. The use of the name 'Luke' somehow makes the revelation more personal. It gives it more impact. I think it's just plain better. So... am I alone on this? Does anyone else think Lucas should make Vader say 'No, Luke; I am your father'? He's going to continue making completely pointless and ridiculous tweaks, so why not retcon in the iconic line that most people attribute to Vader? PS: Be gentle with me. I am only a minor fan of Star Wars.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by michael sweeney

    Actually, that kinda sounded like crying.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    George, if you insist on killing "Star Wars"...

    by Jason Moore

    ...just go ahead and remake it with Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black as Luke and Leia and T-Pain as Han Solo. That'd appeal to the only audience you seem to give a shit about anymore.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    You are right, i can always find the original versions of the SF movies i love. That's another beauty of not being a SF fanboy. I already feel that JJ Abrams fucked up ST as supposedly Lucas is doing. It's obvious from his statement "this is not your daddy's star trek" that he wants to complerly replace the old Star Trek (which he doesn't like) with a new hip bullshit thing. He's suceeding, even with the help of so-called ST fans. By the way, ST is not my big SF thing, actually. My favorite SF is actually of a darker more cynical hue, like Lucas' own THX-1138, BLADE RUNNER and ROLLERBALL, or more hardcore like 2001: A SPACE ODDYSSEY. I enjoy those more then ST, matter of fact. I just have lots of respect for the intentions and the vision found in the ST shows.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I want to thank the Gods Of SF for not making me a SW fanboy.

    by AsimovLives

    Thank you, thank you, thank you so very much.

  • Here is an excerpt from a recent interview: Us fans bitch and moan and gripe whenever George Lucas starts messing with Star Wars again, but is that something effects people who actually worked on the film feel? Are we the only ones who think he's a crazy person? Phil Tippett: No, not really. At a certain point, even going back to Return of the Jedi at ILM...they had a little room where you could get chips and drinks and I was getting something. George and Richard Marquand, the director, came in and Richard was saying, "George, I don't totally get where we need to go with this picture." And George said, "Well, did you see Benji?" "No George, I didn't see Benji." "Well, what we're doing now is kind of like a cross between Benji and what we did on Empire Strikes Back." Good Lord! This is a must read for fans of Phil Tippett as well as appreciators of special effects work in general.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Nightarrow......pft hahahhaha

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ahhahahahha - you truly are a pathetic little cunt. Check below your belly button - I can guarantee you either have a vagina or some sort of weird MANGINA thing going on. That's the only reasonable explanation for the amount of CRYING you have done in this TB. The OT will likely NEVER see the light of day because scumbags like you simply don't deserve it. You paid for the ticket in the theater 20 fucking years ago to see THAT version and THAT the version you saw. Guess what jackass? You don't have a lifetime guarantee or entitlement over seeing that version just because you think you do. You aren't entitled to anything. Nightarrow the only thing you'll get in this life is SHIT...because that's all your worthy of. Now go do your thing and cry about it.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST


    by JerrysGhost

    Eccentric is the nice word for what Lucas has become. If he has convinced himself that artists have always tinkered with their work so he is justified, he is delusional. As long as a painting, sculpture or book manuscript remains in the studio then yes it can be tweaked and edited to the artist's heart's content. Once you sell that painting or sculpture you do not get to walk into the owners home and repaint or otherwise alter it. If Star Wars was a work in progress when it was released as if it were a finished product in 1977 then surely money was taken under false pretenses and an empire was built upon that. If he wishes to alter it then do things which will appeal to your audience, for example: re-design and execute Jar-Jar, make it less of an unfortunate stereotype, replace Jake lloyd, remove the Podrace commentators. The prequels will never be perfect as they are so flawed in their writing so they can only be tweaked at a technical level. The original trilogy had characters we cared about and as a result we can overlook ropey special effects here and there. Lucas is now polishing this turd furiously and I'll admit making tons of money!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST


    by SpaghettiWall


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    HAHA! Some real nasty douchers in here!

    by ZodNotGod

    The lengths some of you mouthbreathers go to call the man names is pathetic! I'm so, so glad I have 6 films to enjoy! I would hate to be one of those bitter twats that rails against the prequels like its the holy truth and gospel, like you are someone how smarter than us who dig them. Not so. If they don't work for you, it's really your problem and your shitty childhood. This splitting up the trilogies is for hookers and fat people! I've always said, most (not all,most) of the problems people complain about are of total ignorance. If you truly want me to educate you, email me....let's have a chat.... Stop whining!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    @johnny_alpha: Ripley's Trim

    by Johann Wolgang von Eisenschwanz

    Sulaco meaning "Aliens", I take it? Because I don't recall that moment, BUT... I just watched these on Blu-ray last week, and I could SWEAR there is some Ripley bush in one of the Nostromo/escape shuttle shots in "Alien". (Can't remember which for sure.) Sigourney Weaver: even her overgrown bush has class.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    All of you miserable fucks like to download porn and video games but when it comes to star Wars you get indignant and start with the name calling. Get some dignity, shut your pie hole and GO FIND THE ORIGINAL VERSIONS.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    Look for one called REBELLION COLLECTION. It should cure what ails ya and hopefully cram that noise.

  • morons. We know it doesn't. It's not like Luke and Anakin jump on the bed like some faggot hobbits that just found a dildo. Keep telling yourselves it ruins the movie....ok. Maybe a few mental cases will buy it. Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here.

  • HAHA! Have any 8-tracks I can listen to?


  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Why won't zodnotgod stop whining?

    by justmyluck

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    The New Adventures Of Han Solo And Lando Calrissian.

    by UltraTron

    It's a tv pilot from the early 80s. It rules

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Heres what will Happen...

    by dave

    All you people will bitch and moan, and say you won't buy them, thus retaining "Geek street cred", then when the day rolls around and they are released I will see you in the line, SW set in Hand. I will then follow you home, and stalk you. All this George told me to do and say..

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST



    It adds an audible connection to Vader's actions. When you bitch slap your woman, do you just slap her? No, you say "Bitch!" then slap her. See what I mean?

  • Lucas is an alien racist.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee

    That woulda been cool if Vaderkin slapped Padmetron in slow-mo like a screwed-down / drag song. Like Salem remixed fuckin' Star Wars n' shit. I'd be down with that shit.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST

    wickedpete, you're probably right

    by david starling

    But I've made my mind up - I'm not buying the set on Blu-Ray, I'm sticking with my DVD versions. I'm not happy with the changes, and the way I see it, I would like to think that if enough people don't buy the set, then maybe it'll be a turnaround for Lucasfilm. Sadly, it won't be the case. Even sadder, I would love to think that George Lucas would read this talkback, and realise how much he's agitating people, who want him to leave it alone - but in truth, I don't think he cares. Whatever. £68 isn't going to be spent by myself on Monday!!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST


    by MainMan2001

    1.) Does anyone know what the fuck Harry was talking about?! Nothing he pointed out made any sense at all. Zero. 2.) George Lucas is Darth Vader. This is simple. 3.) Hollywood and Lucas feed off of money. Your money. Almost 98% of everyone here who is complaining will in fact buy those DVDs. THerefore Lucas will continue to do what his doing.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    From THE TELEGRAPH (sounds good to me)

    by Dark Knight Lite

    George Lucas’s classic Star Wars films have been re-released in a host of different formats. But on Monday, what is perhaps the ultimate version will hit the shops. A box set of Blu-ray discs will include all six films, totally remastered and revitalised, along with three more whole discs of extras, deleted scenes and genuinely never-before seen footage. At nine-discs in all, it is a fans’ dream but it is also a tour-de-force for the Blu-ray HD technology. Every light sabre has been given a new, brighter definition, but more importantly, even the original 1977 film , Star Wars: A New Hope, looks as though it were made using the latest cameras in the highest definition. In part, that’s because of the attention that such hugely popular movies command. At Lucasfilm in San Francisco, despite the countless other films that the company has made, it is still Darth Vader who commands the lobby. The Force is strong. The most appealing aspects of the Blu-ray release are two-fold, however. Matthew Wood, of Skywalker Sound, has re-edited the soundtracks for all six films directly with George Lucas. “What’s great is that the home formats are catching up with us – so we can play this stuff back the way the movies were meant to be heard in cinemas,” he says. Going back to the original audio reels for the first time, Wood has been able to present the films’ sound exactly as George Lucas wants, in 6.1 surround audio. RELATED ARTICLES Win a Blu-ray player & Star Wars® box set 08 Sep 2011 “For New Hope,” says Wood, the only way the cash-strapped, unknown company could produce its sound was “working on a night shift after each days filming. So everything was done as a performance in one take. I always want to make sure I hold on to that performance”. That, and Wood’s trips to California racing circuits to record the sound of racing cars from inside concrete tubes at the centre of the track, have produced Star Wars’ unique audio quality. Of course it’s pictures, however, that will always dominate how Star Wars feels, and on this new release the special effects are given more focus than ever before. Dennis Muren, eight-time Oscar winner, says it’s the first time fans will be able to see all the details. Many of the original models have been filmed at the highest possible resolution and on the extras discs there’s an encyclopaedia style change to zoom in and examine them closely. The famous, dog-like AT-AT ‘walkers’ are presented in extraordinary detail. “We did things traditionally, we had matte paintings, we had cameras and we had models,” says Muren. “All the people that really want to look at the detail, they can get very tight in this. And it was all of course all done by model makers, 22, 23 years old - no CG approach”. For fans of the newer films, there’s also the chance to see how some of the first ever big CGI battle scenes were made. “George had been thinking about this stuff for 20, 30 years,” says Muren. “Finally the technology caught up and we could make it look like there are thousands of people.” Nonetheless, Muren says it was working with physical objects that gave Star Wars much of its defininig character. “I still feel that any time you can start with something real you should use it because it forces the work up to that level. We had a lot of stuff with real explosions and real models. I thought at the time that was the best way to do it and I still do. It looks pretty good.” Fans, of course will agree. But even Wood, who has seen the films, he estimates, “millions of times”, says the new releases mean you “see new stuff”. This, until the forthcoming 3D edition at least, is as good as the classic Star Wars movies are going to get; that makes Monday an important cinematic event, but it is also a test for the Blu-ray format in an age of digital downloads.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I'll be at WalMart at midnight

    by Dark Knight Lite

    So both Wally World and GL get my money, which amounts to a double bitch slap for some of you hipster douche bags.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    What a bunch of douche bags

    by Dkev00

    Plant a 10 your old little boy or girl in front of these movies for the first time. They are not gonna give a shit about all the changes George has made in the past. Their gonna be every bit as blown away as all of you were when you saw them for the first time. In the end, that is all that truely matters. It's time for a whole new generation of kids to enjoy these movies and for the rest of us to STFU.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    The horticulturists have arrived...

    by justmyluck

    ... an alert notice raised on the ranch that street dates may not go as planned?

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    GL had Ben Burtt's work remixed, too?

    by justmyluck

    I guess that will show him for bailing from LFL to PIXAR in '05. It never ends.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Fair price

    by vicmackey1268

    Ok, so I've been thinking about it and if we will never get our originals on bluray there has to be something we don't have to sacrifice... So...I think Amazon had it for $79.99 a while ago, everywhere else I've seeing it for $89.99... As far as movies are concerned, that's a pretty fair price for 6 films and bonus features in a box set...about $13 and $15 per movie... However, there's only 3 films I know I'm going to watch over and over...1 that I may see a few times, and 2 that I only really want to see in a bluray format to see what's been cleaned really only 3 good films. My opinion...lower the box set to around $50 and I'd buy it, but the 80-90 crap is insane..especially because I'm essentially only buying a piece of my childhood back.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    @ anyone in the UK with the Blu-ray set...

    by justmyluck

    ... are Ben Burtt's original Dolby surround mixes an audio option for the OT? Amazon isn't the best with audio specs, nor goes into specifics.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Calling me a plant, justmyluck?

    by Dark Knight Lite

    Unlike you, I've been on AICN since 1998. And also unlike you, I was in the theater on May 25, 1977. The changes GL has made over the years have for the most part, been improvements in my opinion. But to be as objective as possible, here are some things that I wish he hadn't tinkered with: 1. Greedo shoots first (ANH) 2. Too many flying droids in Mos Eisley (ANH) 3. Obi Wan's new lizard call (ANH) 4. Bad song in Jabba's palace - Lapti Nek was better (ROTJ) 5. Hayden Force ghost (ROTJ) With the new BR release, I hope he's fixed two things: 1. Force theme is front and center in Death Star assault (ANH) 2. Gammorean Guard's obviously rubber hand that folds back to its forearm (ROTJ) I'm cool with the "noooo" added in ROTJ.

  • The OT is all that matters, and I just wish GL would stop whoring up the grand old dame.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    @dark knight lite : So sorry, your opening day highness.

    by justmyluck

    I saw TESB and ROTJ opening what? If I respected the opinions of everyone who claims to have seen a movie opening day, I would have to be a moron (who disses people who haven't seen a movie opening day). You know, one of those twits on movie forums. If you want to play that game (for one sentence) well, my being here a year earlier (1997/diff handle/the TITANIC buzz) invalidates your own comments by your own boast. As for plantaciousness, you chose to answer the call in a hurry with whatever the hell is telling you the inane ROTJ NOOOOOO is a cool addition. IMO, *believing that* is worse than plant should have quit while you were ahead.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Fuck George Lucas...Cliff Robertson just passed on.

    by conspiracy

    THERE was a fucking actors actor, not some douchebag "Celebrity". Good Journey Cliff

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST

    This guy's reaction to the "Nooooo!" bullshit says it all....

    by Kirbymanly

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Vader: mass child murderer, genocid-er......redeemed???

    by FleshMachine

    the end of jedi might have made some sense if not for the fucking insane prequels. alderraan could be chalked up to a war crime...but the shit he did in ep3?? way to fuck up everything george.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Han Solo should just shoot himself...

    by eddieVroom

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    what high school art student made that bluray cover??

    by FleshMachine

    fucking terrible...thsi is all such a fucking joke

  • and the Admiral interrupts him to inform him about their com-scan findings? That scene is too vague,i cant understand what Vader is doing there.Is he taking a shit? is he masturbating? Is he reading a newspaper with the today's news in the Galactic Empire? I need to know George,my 10 yo brain is incapable of comprehending that scene. So please do add extra CGI scenes which explain what he is doing in his chamber,and if you are indeed doing it why not put a bonus scene like this one: it will be a riot for the little kids.what you say George,my boy?

  • Yoda could be watching everything that's going on via a special monitor. Also he should fight Boba Fett for twenty minutes. Intercut it with the trench run. ^^ LoL...I admit this made me laugh out loud.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Don't know why I'm bothering but

    by Transhuman

    don't buy this. Watch the originals. You'll all be happier. Stop buying the shit and Lucas will get off the pot.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Ohsa Nosah! Lil Annie! LIL ANNIE IS THAT YOUSA??

    by NeonFrisbee


  • I'm seriously, conspiracy, I feel like you know him, cause you have offered the best skewering of his bullshit. Not just in this thread, but in others. I totally agree with your assessment. Btw, are you Gary Kurtz? If so, allow me to shake your hand by proxy. Thanks for being the "no!" man the Emperor Neckfat desperately needed (but sadly ignored). Star Wars will always be remembered for two awesome movies -- Star Wars and Empire.

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    by SpaghettiWall


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  • Sept. 11, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Biggest tease in history. Here's GL's master plan:

    by VMS

    2012 - 2017: theatrical 3D releases of Episodes I-VI. Sometime in this period, the 100+ hour TV series will start. Another blu-ray (3D) release to milk the six films again. 2018: Episodes VII-IX (in 3D) theatrical sequel trilogy will begin. Lucas is on record in the 80s saying that 7-9 deal more with exotic aliens learning the force than humans. AVATAR opened his eyes to this becoming a possibility, and he was jealous of the 3D & box office. 7-9 can't NOT happen because it will generate over a billion dollars. Go read the LFL press release again when Episode I was officially announced: "we have to start generating real revenue again". Also imagine the ticket sales of films that feature an old Han & Luke up on screen together. It WILL happen. Back to the video releases: finally we will have the 9 film set in 3D, assuming there is still physical media on sale. And then the ultimate set with all 9 films, every supplement in history, Holiday Special and original versions after 25 years of cockteasing. He has to hold them out til the very end for maximum impact.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST


    by michael sweeney

    Boy, you sure got Harry Knowles' number!! Thank God you're here. It was just in time. I'd like to come visit the talkback on your site. I bet it's, um, illuminating.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 1:54 a.m. CST


    by michael sweeney

    You may what you're saying is clever, but you're really just giving everybody a window into the kinds of things you think about. I think you have something you need to admit to yourself.

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  • Sept. 11, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Greed shooting first has killed Han Solo

    by fookinmonkeyzod

    See my blog at I've done a piece on why the changes have radically changed the OT and why Lucas has done it.

  • For me Star Wars is over.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Goddammit George.Goddammit.

    by KilliK

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Obi Wig Kenobi

    by paineywoo

    Just watched Episode 1 on Blu-ray (yes, I'm starting from the 'beginning' - shoot me...first). Have to say it was the most I've enjoyed the film - transfer is pretty amazing and CGI Yoda actually keeps you within the movie far more effectively than the Godawful puppet. The thing that still sticks out is Obi Wan's 'reshoots' - where Ewan's head goes from cropped spiky 'do' to thick ginger wig every other scene (and even WITHIN scenes). On a few occasions it actually looks like they tried to fix it - but it still grates 12 years later... Seems Star wars - like Doctor Who - is all about the hair :)

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 7:31 a.m. CST

    the hair changing

    by A G

    Is just one of the unbelievably glaring mistakes in the phantom menace. Unfinished effects shots galore, bizarre editing (qui gon jin and anakin running away from darth maul before he even appears in the desert) etc. The film is an absolute mess on every possible level.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Lucas doesn't want fans who follow his vision

    by romanocc

    If you look at the history of Star Wars, Lucas has always scoffed at fans who didn't follow his vision. Once ESB came out and the episodes started being numbered, the fans who just loved the original were forgotten. Lucas was starting to call that movie 'A New Hope' and everything Obiwan said in that movie was pretty much contradicted in Empire and Jedi. Then the biggest insult to Star Wars, that Vader, Leia, and Luke were all related! Never was Star Wars sold by itself on VHS, as Lucas only cared about the Star Wars Trilogy fans. Come 1997, Lucas tinkers with the OT, and then puts out the PT and all of the sudden the Saga should be watched 1-6, and it is all about Anakin. Lucas now only sells the Special Editions as the originals are a thing of the past, and the only way to get bonus material in this BluRay set is to buy all 6 movies. Face it guys, Lucas always focus on the generations that is following his vision and could care about the previous ones who saw it as only Star Wars, or the Star Wars Trilogy. Now this has worked for him for 30 years as the fanbase is so big he give the finger to fans who don't see it his way. Will future generations be as diehards as one from the past to continue feeding the gravy train? Only time will tell........

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:30 a.m. CST

    The people that say Lucas is a money grubber

    by Arteska

    don't have much ground to stand on in the face of these continued releases sans '77 cuts don't they? If it was only about money wouldn't there be a '77 cut available in every format once a year? And I'm really looking forward to prequels on BD. Especially TPM which has a terrible transfer to date. AOTC was a different movie in cinemas if you saw it on film vs. digital too.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The people that say Lucas is a money grubber

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    The people that say Lucas is a money grubber don't have a clue. Blu rays have been around for a few years now and this is only the 1st time it's being seen on bluray. The SW movies have been released on every format a few times but how the hell is that any different from any other big Hollywood movie????? There's tons of big films and small films that have a zillion re-releases. I don't get it - what should George be doing? Perhaps he should be inexplicably locking up every version of SW in vaults and NEVER releasing anything? Do people here NOT grasp the concept of profit and capitalism???????

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Do people here NOT grasp the concept of profit and capitalism???????

    by ZodNotGod

    Of course they don't! Most are here Liberals...we know the rest and why they hate profit and Free enterprise etc... Disney does it, but Evil Dead II has got to the number one film released more times than Lindsay Lohan. Five, six releases and they all have the same extras etc. SW being released on every format available is not all the big of deal, par for the course, at least with SW there is something new to look forward to.

  • But you bought it, way to hold tight and steady.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Biggest tease in history. Here's GL's master plan: by vms

    by ZodNotGod

    Makes sense.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    gotta buy the whole set for extras

    by Bouncy X

    i'm seeing it less here but whats the deal with those bitching that the extras are only in the full collection? just about every movie collection does this (Alien being a more recent example). the box set has everything and the individual releases having almost or nothing at all. its kinda normal and expected, they wanna give buyers a reason to buy it since sometimes the individual sets can be cheaper in the long run. i think Back to the Future is one of the few who doesnt deal with this problem since the extras are all on the disc of the movie's themselves so you get everything either way. but every other collection that features extra discs of content never sell those individually. its been that way since the early days of dvd.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    The Planet of the Ape set was like that too...

    by ZodNotGod

    Not much on the films, but a seperate disc had everything. No big surprise, people pick and choose what they want to bitch about without knowing the facts.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    well I'm liberal and I get capitalism

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    but that's offtopic

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    As for Hayden in JEDI.

    by ZodNotGod

    Hayden is at the end of JEDI because he basically lost his soul when he turned to the Darkside. He ceased being Anakin. He didn't get to be an old man like Obi Wan or Yoda. So installing Ewan would be retarded and make no sense. When Anakin died, and became a ghost, he returned to his prime self, the time he was known as Anakin, as most theories of the afterlife depict, not a withered ugly old man. Shaw as Anakin would have worked had we never had the prequels; (it would have made no sense to go from Shaw to a younger dude as people would wonder who the hell is that since we never saw him young)...but since we do.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    It's because the fans

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    of EVERY franchise continue to drastically overestimate their numbers that they don't understand why nobody cares what they want.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Nice fraking review

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter


  • Sept. 11, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Lucas needs to catch up to the tech!

    by DrMurdock

    I got my copy through in the U.K. on Friday and so far I've only checked out the first 20 minutes or so of TPM. First thoughts. It's looks fucking terrible. Yes it's sharp, there's a lot of detail there and it's looks digitally pretty, but more than ever it's painfully obvious that the prequels where all shot on green screen. Jar Jar, looks fake as shit, and everyone real or cgi look like they all float around the 'sets' rather than actually looking connected to them and part of the world. It makes for a horrific disconnection in my opinion from the film. And it is my opinion, I'm sure a lot of people will think it looks great and fair play to you. In the run up to the release, after the reveal of Vader Emo'ing out at the end of Jedi, and Ewoks evolving fucking eyelids, I considered cancelling my pre order, but decided against it. I'm sure the Original Trilogy will benefit far more from the Blu Ray treatment and I am still looking forward to watching those, but for me Blu Ray has outdone Lucas on this, and for what I've seen so far the finished product it's only a matter of time before they release a remastered Blu Ray. With smell o' vision.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    zodnotgod - are you done?

    by evergreen

    Be a dear and turn off the lights when you leave. BTW: Capitalism is an endless downward spiral of venal people selling useless crap to stupid people.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST


    by jim

    Have watched the Blu-ray's, (just the movies so far) picture quality is amazing, the classic trilogy looks so crisp in HD, the level of detail leaves you stunned at what they did in the 70's and early 80's. Just overlook the bits you don't like and marvel at the best fantasy movies ever made.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    I can't believe some of you assholes bought this set

    by A G

    And you will all sit slackjawed and goggleyed when they are released on the NEXT upscaled HD format and tell us how everything is so much more detailed and vivid - like that means anything when these films used to be internationally adored on VHS and are now abhorrent to most people despite being in 1080p.

  • Bet you're fun at parties?

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    star what

    by SpaghettiWall

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    hateful SW fans confuse me......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ....they hate the special editions, they hate the changes, they hate the idea of a 3d release, they hate George Lucas, they hate Katie Lucas tweets, they hate the Prequels, they hate the EU, they hate the clone wars cartoon, they probably hate return of the jedi....and they clearly hate fellow fans who still get enjoyment from the series. hate hate hate, cry cry cry What the hell does that leave? The original 1978 Star wars and 1980 empire strikes back? uhhhhh....ok. Is that really all there is to star wars? The original films have been painstakingly preserved by fan editors such as adywan and others. they can be DL'd online, burned and enjoyed anytime you please. Nope not fucking good enough! Why is it so important that the OT be released and sold in a stupid box in the store? It's like it's not good enough to get what you want in some form - naaah you also want it a certain way, at a certain time and with a damn bow tied to it. It's all or nothing and because you can't have your way you cry and cry endlessly and take every last random opportunity to piss on everyone's parade and mindlessly insult a billionaire. It's fucking pathetic. just move the fuck onto something that you can enjoy more that 10% of that doesn't make your assholes bleed with fury.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Re: this article

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Cobra - Kai is the one mexican left standing . aicn has one mexican left to fill quota Wash the dishes and smiley face happy all the day long about the star wars (?) shit. We all need one, glad you are ours and mine, --p.s. Sorry to Mexicans because I mean to offend crowd pleasing folk and not a race I know next to nothing about. Star Wars? Bitchin'

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST


    by triplesixclickqueer

    Sorry again for spaces left between, Sanchez. Star Wars new makes me reconsider meat.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Star Wars News

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Above comment and many paragraphs intentionally unsure and confusing but neon colored for action. Feces

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Pssst fat_rancor_keeper, SW came out in 1977. FYI

    by orcus

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Amuse Bouche

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Wacking a bit because I have nothing else left today to be wack for. Coo, well-written something about something that I only want to be criticized for writing about. Like Expectation' , the greatest of all Honduran's (allegedly ) I worked among, this is a plug and due diligent piece of work . And a BRIGHT SPOT.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Ten cents and the dime

    by triplesixclickqueer

    We all know. Yet, I struggle to add and never stop trying. Any good ceviche recipes to share? Black glasses vs. 9/11 ? Worst of the two? Asking.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    77 78 79

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    same thing

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    ILM's new software

    by Dustoff74

    Lucas paid $500 million for a room full of Macs and a program called "Etch-A-Sketch 2012" which allows Lucas to shake the hell out of a monitor until he erases the good stuff and puts in obscene, vulgar revisions.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Katie Lucas ?

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Trust me to share

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Got forbid you should get minor facts straight FRC

    by orcus

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Not FRC, FRK. Whatever, Same thing :)

    by orcus

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    something to say you have?

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST


    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I wrote a commentary that was a paragraph bad, I accidentally typed 78 instead of 77 (like you accidentally typed frk instead of frk) no big deal but if you agree or disagree I'd love to hear why.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Carrie Fisher Gag

    by triplesixclickqueer

    It's about time being halftime and easy leisure to spoil a drunk. Redux

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Took too long

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Tweet it down

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    For Cajun Man

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Reflection. and especially regurgitation. , The ol '96er: ts queer

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST

    It's cool FRK

    by orcus

    As what was said before, A lot of folks have issue with something they remember with fond memories being altered and then being told 'No no, you will now have to remember it this way from here on" Which is kinda like when Coke was switched over to New Coke and people bitched and then the formula was switched back to the Original formula but then it didn't taste right again because of instead of using sugar like in the original formula, the now used corn syrup. If you follow Orcus. People want the original Coke, with the original recipe which had sugar because that's what they fell in love with, not the changed and then slightly altered formula. Similar situation here. What's ironic, btw, if you want the true old school version of Coke, the proverbial All American soda, you have import it from Mexico where they use real sugar or the Dominican Republic which uses cane sugar The only POSITIVE thing about the BluRay release is that it will give the folks who do the preservation efforts better source material to deal with. Thank the deities for Usenet, where you can get all of that, including the Mono mix of SW with Aunt Beru's orignal voice,"Close the blast door" And Luke Wedge/Biggs dialog switheroo during the Death Star Battle. Andywan, Wookie Groomer (Wookie was spelled wrong BTW), GOUT, Puggo aend others have given us a truer version of the OT but hopefully now they will have more to work with. George want's to give us lemons? Fine, we'll make lemonade

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Best Said:

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Mono mix and what was just said way Better , humbly

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    George Lucas Balls

    by triplesixclickqueer

    Must taste like Blaze's banana scallop's ' Yes, Embarrassing for all. 1996 = Bone Thugs

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    I'm not buying these!! No way, No how!

    by slicer

    ...basically because I don't own a Blu-Ray player! LOL!!

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    A lot of geeks will bow out of this release...Uh YEAH

    by 900LBGorilla

    I have bowed out of this and all Star Wars releases...both my Star Wars era Brothers have bowed out of all Star Wars Nephew does not watch Star Wars, and none of my children watch Star Wars or are given Star Wars toys. Thanks, but bi thanks Lucass... I would be able to deal with having my kids watch the crappy prequels if there were actual good movies to show them...the new versions of the OT are crap that that I have no desire to watch again...not sure how many people Lucas has turned off to his product just to be a jerk- but its almost everyone I know who used to love it...

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST

    SW TV series update

    by VMS

    Lucas is waiting for the tech cost to come down even more before starting. Cost for what? Brand new software that will basically build the CGI sets automatically, with a skeleton crew of 1-2 artists. Minor characters will also be generated on the fly, with few actors. Joe Johnston's Boba Fett film might actually happen, or could get rolled into the TV series, as well. The final ultimate video set I mentioned above will include episodes 1-9 in 3D, every supplement, original untouched trilogy remastered, entire Clone Wars cartoon & CGI series, all Droids & Ewoks cartoons, Ewoks movies, 100+ episode TV series, Holiday Special, you get the idea. Physical media might not exist, so the thinking is you'll buy a pass to own all this stuff, or just what you want. That's the idea being floated. I'm not making any of this up. We're talking sometime after 2020 though, so I'm not even sure what the point is in mentioning this.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 1 a.m. CST

    Why Lucas does what he does

    by happybunni

    For money, idiots. He still wants more, and all the revisions are huge cash.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Oh, Spaghettiwall!

    by michael sweeney

    You had me at 'anal virginity.' These are two words that people who aren't hiding their sexuality from themselves and becoming serial killers as a result never think to combine. See how much farther over the top you can go. You've now revealed that you're an alcoholic with daddy issues. And to think... the revelation came on a Star Wars talk back of all places. But please, whether you decide to live with your Mom or your Dad, remember: they both love you!

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 6:25 a.m. CST

    happybunni i disagree

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    he doesn't just do the revisions for cash and profit. He does the revisions because the movies simply are never complete in his eyes and he likes to tinker and fine tune things. this new blu ray set could have been the exact same thing from 2004 with no changes, no tweaks and no corrections, just upconverted and it still would have sold like crazy.

  • Perhaps, but it's also the only way a regular Joe can make it big just on a dream or an idea. Capitalism has its faults, but it's not going to change and seriously, what is superior? Exactly. Nothing.

  • Easily the best cut of this film I've ever seen- improves on many of the original sequences without butchering it in a way that makes you want to cringe. Han shoots first, the light saber duel looks like a battle between two kick ass jedi, the escape from the Death Star is faster and more exciting and the final assault has true epic scale, far more impressive than the half a dozen fighters vs a few TIE Fighters you get in the original version. Its a fan edit but made with such professional care and love of the film, you never can tell the difference. Plus Chewie gets a medal FFS! Who wouldn't want to see that?!' The question is why the fuck Lucas hasn't just accepted this version as the best, paid the guy to edit the rest and left it to someone who clearly has the fans in mind.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    UK release

    by Essemtee

    Okay, so the Blu-Ray set came out today in Europe... no comments or articles so far on any other visual changes to the six movies, if any?

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Oldest son watched Fan Boys with me (joke in the comment)

    by impossibledreamers

    He asked me, 'what's this about?' I said, a bunch of Star Wars geeks try to sneak into Skywalker Ranch to steal a copy of Star Wars, Episode I. He replied, 'Wow. Are they gonna' be disappointed.' ^- Was a True Story -^ That said, I do giggle at the film, but between that Big Bang and a few other recent items - I'm kinda' sick of the film geek characters on TV and movies. Still funny to watch Randy from Earl play Harry and kick the crap out of the geeks.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    "Fanboys" is a great flick...very funny and, geniuine.

    by ZodNotGod

    Those guys were way exaggerated to me in my take on SW, but still their love showed through.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST


    by Plathismo

    If you are serious about one day seeing the films as they were originally released, don't buy this set. Just don't. Don't. How many times have you already seen Star Wars? You already have the goddamn DVDs of the last release. You can sit this release out, can't you? Yes, you can. DON'T FUCKING BUY IT.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Flax

    by Plathismo

    To answer your question, no they should not change the line to, "No, Luke, I am your father." It's one of my minor pet peeves when characters in film or TV constantly repeat each other's names in conversations with each other. (Anime is a terrible offender in this regard.) Every other word is a character reminding the audience what someone's name is. I find it tiresome and immersion-breaking. In real life, how often do you address someone by name when you already have their attention? Rarely, except perhaps if you're angry at them. Everybody knows Luke's name by the time they watch ESB. We don't need to be reminded.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Fucking AMAZING Blu Ray set. Ignore the twats.

    by HarryBlackPotter

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Did Lucas at least remove Jar Jar Binks altogether?

    by Stalkeye

    Hated the last Trilogy with the somewhat exception of ROTS (That scene in which Anakin pulled out his lightsaber in a room full of "Younglings", was fucked up beyond words.) and ROTJ is the weakest of the first three films. (FACT.) Glad that Lucas added Hammer Legends, Peter Cushing And of course the Man: Christopher-muthafucking-Lee to the series. That's acknowlegment to the highest order. Oh, and good write up Mr. Kove. (0:'

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Did Lucas at least remove Jar Jar Binks altogether?

    by ZodNotGod

    Give it a rest 1999!

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    The one change that really needed it in JEDI....

    by ZodNotGod

    When the Star DEstroyer takes a plunge into the Death Star. The shot before it and after are great, but the actual shot looks very obvious. It needs some added flames or something to look so much like a model.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Fucking AMAZING Blu Ray set. Ignore the twats.

    by Jason

    Good advice Harry. I'm going to ignore all the twats who are clearly lying about the quality of this blu ray set. Like you.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    The Goiter will never get another cent out of me.

    by disfigurehead

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Kevred you're an idiot!

    by Ryan Kinsel

    You're seriously a dumb asshole and I hope either evolution or god smite you soon!

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST


    by Shifter1977

    So long as they fixed the lightsaber blades in ANH, ESB and ROTJ, I will be happy.

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST

    If you haven't seen this SW Blu-ray/DVD comparison site yet...

    by justmyluck

    ... feel free to give it a lookie-loo:

  • Sept. 12, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Cobra is a fucking professional. Good job.

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Fuck George Lucas. Fuck him up his stupid ass.

    by Errol

    I'll be getting these via Bittorrent...

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    That Star Wars Has Generated the Largest Amount of Fandom

    by Aquatarkusman

    Is Prosecutor's Exhibit 2948 in the case of America being really, really dumb.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Alterations: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    by Jaster Mareel

    I LIKE a lot of the changes Lucas made in the special editions. I HATED a lot of them too. The Good: Adding the scene of the stormtroopers finding the gasket so they knew to look for droids was not only a good scene but closed a hole in the script. Having the closeby swooping shot of the X-Wings as they passed Yavin was fantastic. All the cleanup work they did on the Death Star battle was great too. Fixing the matte lines for the walker battle was very needed. Adding the longer approach to Bespin and stuff outside the windows was cool. Visually hanging Palpy to McDermond was an ok change. I always thought the yub yub song was stupid and didn't make sense. How do te little teddy bears who make little squeaky sounds all of a sudden sing opera? I thought the new music was a perfect addition and I also enjoyed the new montage of celebration around the galaxy. The Bad: C-3PO's head on Tatooine having a weird blue blob on it. Blech. Also the lid to the escape pod having electric blue on the inside looked weird hanging open on Tatooine. Changing the Krayt Dragon call to a Bigfoot call from Finding Bigfoot. Big mistake. Although frankly as a kid I had no idea Kenobi was making that sound or what it was supposed to be anyway. I always thought it was the Sand People screaming in terror when they saw him. So it was never very clear but at least made a fucked-up kind of sense originally. After the change it was just a really weird inexplicable noise. Most of the changes to Mos Eisley were stupid and distracting. I never got the impression it was supposed to be a bustling spaceport. After's fucking Tattoine! Who the hell wants to go there? It's like making Snowflake Arizona a hub of activity! I had always thought of Mos Eisley as a backwater shithole, which seems to be the way Ben describes it. Having a bunch of bizarre cartoon shit bopping around in the background doesn't mesh with that description at all. Luke's lightsaber turning green on the Falcon was puzzlingly fucked up. How the fuck does that get past QC? The added wampa stuff, which is what I was most looking forward to when I first went to the SE in the theater, just destroys the tension of that scene. Unlike the rest of that sequence, the new stuff looks fake and shot on a small set. The mood and atmosphere simply don't match. The Wampa had always been shot with an up-angle and close-up to make it look massive and intimidating. So inserting medium length down-angle shots totally fucks that feeling. Taking the time to show Vader returning to the Star Destroyer is completely unnessecary and feels like a slog. Initially in the SE Luke screamed like a bitch when he jumped down the shaft. THANK FUCK Lucas changed it back for the DVD. I won't talk much about the changes to the prequels on DVD release, but I thought having not one, but two emergencies that Anakin recovers from and STILL winning the pod race was a bridge too far and makes it too unbelievable. Also after Amidala falls out of the carrier and is helped to her feet by a clone trooper, he asks her if she is ok. Originally she said "YES!" in a very commanding voice which came off comical. For the DVD release this was changed to "Uh huh" in a sort of shaky, recovering voice which seemed much more plausible. The Ugly: The new "musical number" at Jabba's palace is fucking embarrassing. This isn't the muppet show George! Don't like the Sarlaac being re-envisioned as the plant from Little Shop of Horrors. What the fuck was up with that shit? Changing Fett's voice was quite upsetting. Putting Hayden at the end is all kinds of retarded. At first I didn't even believe it because it's so fucking stupid. Luke must have been thinking "....Who the fuck is that emo kid?" It would have made more sense if Hayden was in the unmasking scene, which frankly I think Lucas should have done. It always bothered me that the ultimate badass was a fat fuck that looked like a fucking plumber or something. Actually the first "No" before tossing the Emperor, I'm totally fine with. It's the second one, revisiting the most embarrassing moment in Star Wars history that totally fucks it. Obviously my biggest problem with the SEs was from ROTJ and it looks like the same will apply to the Blu-rays.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Also I liked the new shot of Han running into the room of stormtroopers

    by Jaster Mareel

    That joke was never clear before. He runs down the hallway all John Wayne and shit, then immediately runs back with 2 fucking troopers chasing him. It was like "Wha?" After the change it makes total sense.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Also pisses me off that the lasers don't burn anymore

    by Jaster Mareel

    Originally in A New Hope the laser blasts left a little flame on the stormtroopers armor. It added a visual punch and made things feel a bit more visceral and dangerous. The SE's changed that to a little carbon skid mark, which is just stupid. Also i don't like the new dialogue in the emperor's communication with Vader in Return. It just changes the dynamic.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Which order are we meant to see it in?

    by Mr Gorilla

    Really - which order? 456123 is better in that you start and end with a strong ep. (1 and 3 are some of the weakest, I think.)

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    @wrath of fett

    by Jason

    Re: Adding the scene of the stormtroopers finding the gasket so they knew to look for droids was not only a good scene but closed a hole in the script. -- This scene was always there. George just added a lot of CGI dewbacks to it. Previously there was a big dewback prop in the background but it didn't move.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    @mr gorilla

    by Jason

    I recommend 45645655

  • Sept. 16, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    RE: "Give it a rest 1999! "

    by Stalkeye

    Whether it's 1977 or 1999, Jar Jar is the Stepin Fetchit of Sci Fi sagas. "Mee so Silly, Annie".GTFOH! Oh and while I'm at it, Fox should have (also) wiped that Slave trader (Jewish Stereotype) off the re-releases as well. WTF were you thinking Georgie?