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Issue # 19 Release Date: 8/31/11 Vol.#10
The Pull List
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Advance Review: ACTION COMICS #1
Advance Review: THE BIG LIE #1
Advance Review: BATGIRL #1

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Writer: Grant Morrison
Artist: Rags Morales (pencils), Rick Bryant (inks)
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Johnny Destructo

THIS should have been the book to kick off the DCnU. No offense, Geoff Johns or Jim Lee, but holy shit. Whereas I would give Justice League #1 a 3.5 rating, Action Comics is a 5 star book, easily! You know what? 6 out of 5 stars. That's how good this is. Superman lovers beware, this isn't the Supes you're used to. This Last Son of Krypton has no qualms about almost scaring an old man into a heart attack, or tossing abusive boyfriends through windows, or breaking hips and ribs in order to make a point. This character almost feels like a Reese's candy. You got your Batman in my Superman! (no Ambiguously Gay Duo undertones implied). This Superman does feel like he's got some of the Caped Crusader's characteristics, as far as his bad-assitude is concerned, so if you've been a fan of breast feeding, boy-scout Supes, you're in for something a little bit different. He's rougher around the edges and far weaker in terms of power, which already makes him more interesting for me to read. Something that would have taken Superman from DCoU 30 seconds to handle with his pinky actually does serious damage to nSupes.

This is what SUPERMAN EARTH ONE should have been, in my opinion. I wasn't a huge fan of Emo-Supes, and while there were some nice changes to the lore, I just wasn't all that excited about it. With ACTION #1, I found myself turning the pages faster as the story went on, to match my excitement. This book moves at a break-neck pace and it just doesn't let up. It's an interesting counter-balance to last week's JUSTICE LEAGUE, which was a slow burn, and this was a welcome change of pace.

All of our most familiar faces make an appearance, you'll be happy to know. Lois, Jimmy, Lex, Sam Lane. Also a new face: Clark's landlord, Mrs. N, who reminds me of Marsha the landlord from one of the best UK sitcoms ever: “Spaced”. I could almost here her saying " 'Ellooooo Briawwwnn".

The only negative thing I can think of to relay is that if this is supposed to be a NEW take on the Man of Steel, it's not so much that. Even though it takes place only 5 years ago, it definitely has a classic vibe to it. Despite the fact that there is current technology and contemporary fashion styles, Metropolis doesn't feel particularly like a City of Tomorrow so much as a City of Yesterday. Is that just what naturally oozes out of Rags Morales’ pencil? Or was it a very specific choice made by the team? Instead of feeling NEW, this has more of a Return To Basics vibe, but either way, it works. There's also a line so cheesy, I can't tell if it goes beyond cheese into awesome or if it is just plain awful. "You got sumthin' to say...SAY IT TO THE GUNS!"

Also, the Jim Lee cover. I feel like I should say something about this. I loveLOVElove the Rags Morales cover, but picked up the Jim Lee cover to review, and found that the Lee cover actually did the book a slight disservice for me. The Superman as Jim Lee drew him is NOT the Superman inside the book. In attitude and posture, yes, but he's dressed in his "Kryptonian armor" with the V-neckline, pointed cuffs and is covered in shiny reflections. Besides that, he's also in the middle of fighting super-futuristic looking robots which don't fit the more classic feeling smothered all over the interior pages. Atmospherically, it just doesn't match. They should have saved this cover for when the continuity leaps ahead 5 years.

Even if you were less than impressed by last week's offerings, I can almost promise you'll dig this book. This book made Superman exciting again, and thank Rao for that.

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Writer: Rick Veitch
Artist: Gary Erskine
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche

The truth is out there, and it is my personal belief that the truth lies in the middle ground between conspiracy theory and the PR spin. For example, the age old question of "Did Oswald act alone?" My feeling is he probably did. But there's also that part of me that believes there’s a paper trail leading up to an executive order from Johnson. My religion lies in the middle ground of fact between Oliver Stone and Warren Commission. Yes, the conspiracy theory is sexier, but many conspiracy theories are as just as easily debunked as the facts they are trying to obscure. This is the same for 9/11. I should have known what to expect from THE BIG LIE's title alone, but the schmaltzy romantic in me was blinded by the time traveling scientist, Sandra, trying to save her husband, Carl, from his fiery fate. And for a few pages this comic was the epitome of sci-fi suspense set around that hallowed day of 9-11-01. This was before it turned into "Loose Change" the comic.

For those that have yet to see “Loose Change”, I highly recommend stepping away from this review for an hour and watching it on YouTube. This movie enlightened me to the connections between the Bushes and the Bin Ladens. It also helped open my eyes to the Cheney/Black Water connection. But then there are parts of “Loose Change”, like missiles flying out from the planes or the fact that explosive charges were set at pivotal structural weak points within the Towers and building 7. Basically, “Loose Change” and THE BIG LIE postulate that not only did the government know about 9/11, they orchestrated it with the flair and fancy of a Tom Clancy assault squad.

But, I’m getting ahead of myself. The book starts with a scientist working at CERN, getting smashed with atoms to travel back to 5 days before 9/11. Good science fiction fun here. As a disciple of Asimov and Bradbury, I have followed the doings at CERN since its creation. I wish they were this far along in the discovery of the universe’s substructure. In a wonderful plot device for urgency, our scientist’s calculations were wrong and she ends up just a few hours before the first planes hit.

Working high above the Tower 2 strike zone, Carl is quite frankly one of the biggest douche cocks I’ve ever read. I know Veitch was going for realism with Carl and his board room buddies that run a risk management firm for Hollywood and other big dollar clients, but he probably made these guys a little too real. Their corporate assholeness was making it really hard to feel bad about their impending doom.

This problem became worse once Sandra finally breaks into the office. Carl doesn’t recognize her. I understand a decade wears on a person, but I can go back to every friend I had in college on FaceBook, look at their pictures and say “Oh yeah, there’s so and so under either a few extra layers of middle-age cellulite or starter wrinkles” and I wasn’t married to one of them. I don’t care if it was ten years or twenty, I would still recognize my wife.

After Carl starts to waver a bit in his disbelief, Sandra whips out an iPad to show his buddies the news footage from 9/11. This was a great moment; the reactions to the iPad were spot on in context of the period. Just far back enough for touch technology to strike a sense of awe, but not so far back that they would hiss at it and throw hexes at it like a demon book. Also, the nod by one of Carl’s associates to Apple’s less than stellar state of financial affairs at the time was character and period perfect.

Here’s where the book started to make me angry, despite Veitch’s clever use of the next few pages to drive the plot forward. After looking at the footage, after looking into his slightly aged wife’s eyes, Carl is swayed by “The Firm” that this is all a hoax being perpetrated by their new client, a Hollywood mogul named Steve, to see if they can be fooled. Sorry, I’m just not buying it. Again, though, it was effective in moving the plot forward. Each specialist uses their forensic knowledge on things from structural engineering to national security procedures to poke holes in why the official story of 9/11’s events were bullshit.

Hear that change a jingle jangle….

See, I buy the Bush connection to Bin Laden; there’s documented stuff there. I buy as the book postulates that our government was working under an imperialistic mandate during the Bush years that stipulated the only way for our continued prosperity as nation is to place bastions of democracy (or consumerism depending on your level of cynicism) into resource-rich countries around the globe. Again, this shit is clearly documented; I’m on this train. The chatter going on that day between terrorist cells, yup, if it’s on record I’m playing it. But then there are the more fanciful feats of imagination. Like the thing with the government setting off explosives in the WTC buildings. Frankly, I don’t give our government that much credit. The amount of people to pull off such a feat would be huge; trying to silence them, virtually impossible. I look at how long it took us to plug a hole in the ocean and I can’t believe we had a project plan so well orchestrated that we could bribe or silence in some other way the number of workers it would take to place the sheer amount of fire power it would take to level the buildings.

So when on the last page after the planes hit when I saw a cross section between the floors with chunky amounts of plastic explosive tied to each girder, I have to admit I checked out.

I believe there were factions within our government that knew an attack was imminent. I also believe that there was financial gain to be made by people in decision making positions. But I can’t believe even beyond the magnitude of logistics that our government would not only ignore the demise of our national spirit, but ensure that it would in fact occur. Some would say the two are the same; that’s your right. I believe watching a bully pick on a kid, though, is far less malicious than joining in on the pummeling.

As a comic THE BIG LIE works on many levels. Erskine paints the world of ten years ago with great precision; from the technology to fashion everything is spot-on. Erskine also has a great grasp of facial expressions, which are needed since this book is talk heavy. And talk heavy is not a criticism here, I like chatty books. He even has a firm grasp of douchey, again needed given the personalities at Carl’s firm.

At the end of the day, any “problems” with THE BIG LIE stem directly from lack of faith or willing suspension of disbelief around this particular event…with the exception of Carl. I see him as a major slip in character development in getting us to empathize with him or his fate. Fine, make every other guy in the firm a cock in a seersucker, but Carl should have been more in tune with Sandra or more lovelorn with her prior to the planes hitting the tower. And Sandra frankly should have picked up a knife and hostage-walked Carl out the door while his cohorts were busy debunking.

Again, I love THE BIG LIE’s premise, but only about 47% of its execution.

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Writer: Warren Ellis
Art: Jamie McKelvie
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: MajinFu

For this stand-alone issue, writer Warren Ellis has elected to curtail the team to four members, a brilliant notion that really drives home the spirit of the book by removing irrelevant members. It makes perfect sense, since most covert teams work in small numbers anyway, but it also lends some breathing room for the characters to play in. That’s not to say this book is breezy or slow-paced. In fact, it moves at a breakneck speed, thanks to the discovery of a bright red “atomic” Cadillac early in the book. You read that right, and if that doesn’t sound like fun to you consider that the team has gone deep underground to dismantle a “Von Doom Time Platform” which lies somewhere several miles beneath Cincinnati.

The smaller team leaves no room for superfluous dialog or exposition. Black Widow is the car enthusiast and drives the car, Steve Rogers is the strategist that guides the team, Moon Knight is the wild card, and Beast works double duty as the comedic relief and the brains in the back seat, telling you everything you want (or maybe do not want) to know about time machines and their capacity for utter destruction. The execution is refreshingly simple and recalls Ellis’ work on other team books like THUNDERBOLTS and PLANETARY; both come highly recommended if you haven’t read them already.

If you missed his work in PHONOGRAM, pick up this book and take a gander at Jamie McKelvie’s clean, concise art style. With some excellent work by Matthew Wilson, the art team is creating the superhero comic for the next generation without losing any of the pop and vigor the classic illustrators brought to the genre. If you don’t believe me, just check out the two-page spread of Moon Knight aptly destroying a jeep and its three passengers. McKelvie clearly has a grasp of how to draw action scenes while utilizing the environment to improve the drama and composition to improve pacing. Whether it’s Natasha spinning the aforementioned super-Cadillac around a corner or Moon Knight smashing a goon’s face in with his grappling-hook/truncheon, every blow has impact and every essential movement looks incredibly cool.

Missing from the team already established by Ed Brubaker are Valkyrie, Ant-Man, Nova, and War Machine. Whether they’re on hiatus, gone for good, or Ellis has another mission planned for them I don’t know, but I do hope Ant-Man will make a return soon. In my honest opinion, the rest of the team always seemed a bit too bombastic for stealth missions, and would probably fit more comfortably in another book. But if anybody can prove me wrong, it’s the guys responsible for this issue.

I have one criticism, and it’s a purely cosmetic one. When Beast had his second mutation in NEW X-MEN, I distinctly remember his more feline form also impacting his feet and legs, making them more like the hind legs of a jungle cat. Here, the big, human-like feet make their return. Isn’t there some visual editor or something at Marvel who can get all the artists to consistently illustrate Beast? This in no way reduced my enjoyment of this book, but it’s something that has bothered me for years.

I gave this comic to my 19 year-old cousin and my grandmother, who do NOT read comics, and they both thoroughly enjoyed it without knowing anything about the team beforehand. My cousin even commented on how “handsome” she thought Beast was. Bottom line: buy this book and then buy one for a friend. This is how it’s done!


Writer: Geoff Johns
Art: Andy Kubert (pencils), Sandra Hope and Jesse Delperdang (inks)
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Johnny Destructo

Well, it's been no secret that I've not been a fan of most of the FLASHPOINT crossover event. What IS a secret is my penchant for an activity I like to call Peanut Butter Balls. FP and PBB have certain aspects in common. They seem like a good idea in the beginning, but as the process wears on and the realities set in, it becomes clear that a better, less sticky decision could have been made. Next thing you know, you've got Extra Crunchy all tangled up in your short-hairs and the glue-like effect on your boxers isn't all that pleasant. But then you wash it out, and everything is grand again. This issue provided just such a cleansing feeling. I loved that The Flash had a whole universe-spanning crossover all to his onesies, but the problem was that I didn't give a good gawd-damn about ANY other aspect of the crossover besides wondering how it was going to affect the DCU. The only ancillary mini that I could even bring myself to finish was BATMAN: KNIGHT OF VENGEANCE (which, if you haven't read yet, you absolutely SHOULD. NOW.) I didn't care about 99% of the stuff that was taking place in the Flashpoint reality, maybe because I knew that none of it was going to have any real effect on anything, that it would all be erased by the end of issue 5, but I think the truth was just that I was bored.

What I did love, however, was the dynamic that Johns has been delving into with Barry and Eobard Thawne, the Reverse Flash. Just what did RF do, specifically, to create the Flashpoint universe? How would the final battle go down? What would Barry have to do to set it right? I don't want to spoil anything here, but I found myself really enjoying the answers to these questions. I will say that I loved the reveal as to what actually CAUSED this Flashpoint universe to Big Bang its way into existence. It was a nice little twist and actually threw me for a loop. The action was top-notch as well. I always get a bit of a rush when a Flash and a Reverse Flash go toe-to-toe and this wasn't any different.

But again, as with much of the crossover as a whole, anyone who isn't Flash, Reverse Flash or Batman is just cannon fodder that has absolutely no effect on the outcome of this event. Andy Kubert could have just drawn li’l stick figures wearing shirts that read "character" followed by a number and their presence would have meant just as much to me. Actually, now that I think of it, this issue is a perfect reflection of the series as a whole. The beginning: awesome. The end: awesome. But there is an entire chunk in the middle that I could have completely done without and still felt that I got the whole experience. And speaking of the end, I will mildly spoil one thing, just because I don't think it actually spoils anything. In order to fix everything the Flash must...RUN. And it turns out that he could have done this very important running as soon as he had his speed back, but for some reason he waits till the very last second. Weird. But hey, he's the Flash, so of COURSE he has to run. I just wish his running made some more sense. Like I said, the end was pretty great, and the moment spent between Barry and Batman is very cool, and shows Bats in a light that we don't get to see him in very often, which was nice. A friend had mentioned being annoyed that Bats was shown crying, but come on! The man has spent his entire life doing insane things in the memory of his deceased parents. Getting a recently written note from your long dead father would make even Chuck Norris cry. Of course, the tears would then punch holes in reality, but still.Overall, this was a pretty cool wrap-up to a series that...existed. I think this issue is by far the best of the mini-series and is a fantastic lead-in to the new JUSTICE LEAGUE #1 that also hit stands this week. I've found myself slowly getting excited for the new 52 despite myself and this issue left me amped to dive right into it, high-collared costumes and all!


Writers: David Server & Jackson Lanzing
Artist: Joe Suitor
Published by: Ape Entertainment
Reviewed by: BottleImp

I missed this series when it first hit the comic stands, having been intrigued by a smattering of preview pages but not able to find the comic in any of the nearby comic shops. So when I found out that FREAKSHOW was going to be collected in trade paperback form, I jumped at the chance to find out more about what was going on with those fabulous freaks I had glimpsed earlier.

The setup is fairly straightforward and laid out within the first few pages: the world’s first costumed superhero, Vanguard, is killed almost immediately after his debut by a terrorist explosion. This explosion releases a chemical cloud that spreads across the city, the so-called “smoke” killing nearly everyone who comes in contact with it. However, there are those still living within the contaminated city whom the smoke has instead mutated, giving them extraordinary abilities and grotesque appearances. As the armed, uninfected soldiers seek to penetrate the smoke-enclosed city, the Freaks within fight to protect themselves by any means necessary. As the story progresses, the reader learns more about the genesis of the toxic holocaust, and the already wavering line between good and evil, between hero and villain, becomes even more blurred.

Server and Lanzing have crafted a masterful mystery with their series. The reader is immediately thrust right in the middle of the story, making it an exciting introduction to the Freaks. There’s Rot, zombie-like in appearance, with the ability to, well, rot anything he touches; Fog, the sentient vapor cloud who can take human form only by inhabiting empty clothing; Psychosis, who can make you see whatever nightmare he wishes you to see; Critter, the youngest of the group, possesses lizard-like skin and a barbed, prehensile tail; and Stronghold, the leader, super strong, super massive and nigh indestructible. The Freaks (and indeed, the entirety of the series itself) are an intriguing blend of classic comic book genres. There’s the obvious superhero influence (especially that of X-MEN) in the protagonists’ abilities (as much a curse as they are assets…again, shades of X-MEN) and their code names. There’s the science fiction element in the scenario of the chemical weapons and the quarantined city, though this also crosses over into the horror genre, bringing to mind such killer virus films as “28 Days Later” and “I Am Legend.” The horror elements are pushed further to the fore in the characters of Psychosis and Rot, both of whom look like they could have stepped out of any number of midnight movies. These disparate elements could have easily made for a thematically jarring read, but Server and Lanzing blend them effortlessly into a backdrop for the characters—which is really what FREAKSHOW is all about.

Joe Suitor’s artwork follows this same direction, keeping the characters and their emotions front and center. His handling of the Freaks and humans alike does a great job of showing the emotions of the characters, even if said characters have no face (as is the case with Fog). Suitor seems to have the most fun with Rot, whose sinewy, decaying body is delineated almost lovingly by Suitor’s inks and colors. If I had one nit to pick (and I do), it’s that the lack of background details sometimes takes away from the plot by leaving the characters to wander in a nebulous empty canvas. This technique works well when the setting is in the smoke-filled city or when Fog is spreading over the pages, giving the background a misty, haunted feeling, but in other cases I just can’t help wishing that I saw a little bit more of what the rest of this world looked like.

FREAKSHOW succeeds admirably as a science fiction story, a horror tale, and even as a superhero comic—though even with comparisons to X-MEN, I have to reiterate that this is not the standard “good guys vs. bad guys” spandex-soaked plot. This TPB is out now, and definitely worth a look from fans of any of those aforementioned genres.

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Writer: Christos Gage
Artist: Rebekah Isaacs
Publisher: Dark Horse Comics
Reviewed by Humphrey Lee

It’s a month of restarts so I figure I’d jump the train early here, though not with one of the 52 we’ve all been anticipating (or ranting against). And this is a relaunch that actually refreshed me in a couple ways, one being a reminder of how much I really enjoy the Buffyverse, particularly in a nostalgic way given it was running during my informative/college years, and also from a “Man I love these characters” way, another side of this being a reminder of how little attention I was paying at the end of Season 8 because of how unfortunately tedious and overwrought it had become. Harsh, I know, but we always hurt the ones we love, right?

Both those forces I mentioned above, nostalgia and apathy, pretty much came to a head with this first issue of the two biggest “on the outs” characters of the Buffyverse after the events of Season 8. The main pluses come from the characterization here by Christos Gage of the titular characters and how more or less spot on it. Angel is back to his “world on his shoulders” roots after his role in the Twilight Saga and all the chaos that ensued during it. I’ll admit, though, that the tone of the book around Angel seems to be a bit wishy-washy as it ebbs and flows both angles of his involvement in the war, both as a catalyst by proxy since he was a driving force of all the death and destruction, and also as a victim in that if he did not do these things they would have been so much worse.

My apathetic side just triggered pretty hard typing that though, as I’m not even sure if that’s truly how things played out--I’m struggling so hard to remember (and had to wiki) what exactly went down in that book. It’s not particularly fair, especially to those who genuinely liked how Season 8 played out, but it’s a hurdle this book will have to overcome with me. Admittedly, though, it is winning given its handling of something I wasn’t a big fan of in the first place and the characters in question. Angel is back to how I like him and so is Faith, though her character has grown a bit and it’s fitting. While a character full of doubts in her own right, she has seemingly grown into acceptance of a life where, basically, “shit happens” to her and she has to pick up the pieces. In this case, though, she’s acting more like a pillar for Angel, who is the one bending over to gather shards of himself in remorse of what transpired at his/Twilight’s hands.

Okay, fourth paragraph in and I know there’s little talk about the actual plot, but that’s kind of the rub of this issue in that the characterization is the main theme running. Oh, Gage gives us some stuff to work with besides; a re-emergence of Whistler and an introduction of some pretty ruthless characters Angel had under him while Twilight (and that I admittedly thought I forgot about only to find they didn’t exist until this issue – score another for Team Apathy) called Pearl and Nash, and what Angel ultimately plans to accomplish in his new crusade. It’s a good start to what I’m sure will be a nice weave of new conflicts and old plots being built on, but these needles are just starting to get threaded here.

This first issue was all about setting a mood and, in that regard, it did it admirably. A fresh start was well needed and this accomplished that. While obviously the events of the past are not to be forgotten, a focus on the future is what the character Angel needs and exudes here and that is definitely the emphasis this book needs to have so it doesn’t collapse under the weight of all the shenanigans the Twilight material brought (funny how that name ruins even a GOOD vampire series). Rebekah Isaacs’ pencils are a perfect medium for this mood, too, with its crisp lines and spot-on depictions of all the characters given their real life models. It’s a fresh style for a fresh start and I hope the momentum this title has kicked off bodes well for Buffyverse Season 9. While the mistakes of the past make for good fodder to drive these characters, I just hope they were also learned from coming from a writing aspect as this next installment begins. Time will tell all that is left to say, I guess.

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Illustrator by: Alex Toth
Editor: Greg Sadowski
Publisher: Fantagraphics Books
Reviewer: superhero

Ever since I discovered Alex Toth’s art in a GREATEST BATMAN STORIES EVER TOLD trade paperback I’ve been a huge fan of his work. Obviously, I’d been exposed to his work much earlier on having been a huge childhood fan of “Space Ghost” and “The Superfriends”. It was that GREATEST BATMAN STORIES collection, however, where I first saw a complete Alex Toth comic book story and I distinctly remember it having an impression on me. The work was different than anything I’d seen before. It stuck out, mostly because it had an old school comic look to it but also because Toth’s artwork took it beyond just a static, boring old comic book story. It changed the way I looked at comic book art and I knew I wanted to know more about this Alex Toth guy.

As the years went by I realized that finding a lot of Toth art in one place was going to be a challenging task. If there was a book on Toth or his art I’d always miss its release for some reason and by the time I’d find it anywhere it’d be a bit too out of my price range. The same thing went for his comics. There were never any really large collections of his comic book stories and any comic books that featured any actual decent Toth art were hard to come by and usually tattered to bits when I’d find them. A couple of years ago a collection of his old Zorro art was released, but for some reason I found it to be lacking. The Zorro stuff didn’t hit me in the gut like some of the stuff I’d seen on his website. And original art? Forget it. Those were definitely out of my price range.

But now my dreams of a great Toth art collection have been realized as Fantagraphics Books releases possibly the best collection of Toth comic art I’ve ever seen. I’ll admit I’m not an aficionado on Toth art books, but every six months or so I’d just do a random search on E-Bay or Amazon to see if anything Toth related was coming out. Most of the time I’d be disappointed, but in my last search this little gem popped up. I knew that another Toth artbook, GENIUS ILLUSTRATED, had been released as well and I’d gotten a look at that book at Comic Con. While GI was a nice book, it still didn’t have the giant chunk of Toth that I’d looked for, that I’d craved all those years. I was hoping that SETTING THE STANDARD would give me the fix that I needed. Luckily, a fan posted a Youtube video of himself looking through SETTING THE STANDARD and I was pleased as punch by what I saw. I ended up ordering it right away.

SETTING THE STANDARD is a terrific collection of Alex Toth’s art from the 1950’s. This is pure and gorgeous Toth all the way. I can’t believe how impressed I am with the man’s talent after reading through this book. The man was a master. All of this is stuff I’m sure many people out there know. But what you may not know is what a great job Fantagraphics has done with reproducing these stories. Obviously, I’ve never seen the original comics offered here but it looks to me like the utmost care was taken to present these stories in the best way possible. All of the artwork looks fantastic and the colors just pop off the page. What’s best about the reproduced hues is that they are not overly computer colored. The color work done here is respectful of the time period the original art is from. So each story really gives off a retro vibe but is as crisply and perfectly detailed as if it were produced today. This is a Toth book designed by a Toth lover.

And there really is a lot to love here. Beyond just Toth’s art are the Golden Age stories he’s illustrating. Almost every genre is presented here. Crime, sci-fi, war, romance…they’re all here and each story is just as gloriously overly Golden Age dramatic as the next. This collection of comics just reminds me of how much fun the Golden Age could be at times, especially if you stepped away from superhero comics. Jilted lovers, crazed aliens, and heroic G.I.s all do their best to leap from panel to panel and entertain like only some of the best comic characters can.

Also included in the book is a pretty darn impressive interview with Toth himself. It opens up the book and sort of sets up the reader with where Toth’s headspace may have been when he was creating these books. It’s an interesting read and makes SETTING THE STANDARD much more than just a simple collection of Toth’s books. It helps flesh out the collection and informs the reader as to what Toth’s artistic/personal influences might have been during this time in his life and beyond.

I can’t recommend SETTING THE STANDARD enough, especially if you are a fan of Toth’s art or of Golden Age comics in general. It’s a perfect compilation of Toth comics from a time when he was obviously on fire as an artist. This book is both Toth and Fantagraphics Books at their best.

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Writer: Dan Slott
Art: Humberto Ramos
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: The Writing Rambler

In AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #668 we get to see part 2 of the SPIDER ISLAND story unfold, and despite all reason and logic it has me wanting to continue reading to find out how it all will play out. The story, when summarized, seems like it should be terrible. Most of Manhattan’s residents gaining Spidey’s powers, Marvel characters all over the place and Jackal as the villain (well, one of the villains, as his mystery woman who calls the shots has yet to be seen) is like an ingredients list of things that should make a bad SPIDER-MAN story, but somehow it just works.

Dan Slott does a fantastic job telling this story. While many other writers may have chosen to focus on all the action taking place between The Avengers and spider powered criminals, Slott instead invests this issue in Peter Parker and it makes for a better story. We get to see how Peter has to step back from everything and figure out how he can contribute to this battle without his costume. We get the reminder that SPIDER-MAN’s success has always thrived off of Peter’s personality and seeing him getting to enjoy being Spidey without the costume is where the real fun of this book comes from.

Humberto Ramos handles the art in the book well and in his typical manga-influenced way. Some of his work drives me a little crazy, especially some stretched out, disproportioned characters, but overall I enjoyed it. He does a great job handling the visual storytelling, especially with some of the battle scenes, particularly one shot of Peter leading a group of regular citizens into battle, which is just great fun for any SPIDER-MAN fan.

For a while now (pretty much since BRAND NEW DAY) I had given up on SPIDER-MAN titles as part of my required weekly reading but I figured I’d give SPIDER ISLAND a chance and I’m glad I did. Before this, it felt like Spidey stories as a whole had lost touch with what made SPIDER-MAN a great character and while this isn’t the greatest story I’ve ever read, it does feel like a step in the right direction. I don’t know how this entire 6 part event will play out but so far I’ve enjoyed what we have been given. Marvel can often have trouble finishing good storylines and I’m hoping this doesn’t fall into that same pattern, but for now, this issue as well as the first should be enough to keep people coming back for more.

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Writer: Gail Simone
Art: Ardian Syaf (pencils), Vicente Cifuentes (inks)
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Johnny Destructo

"Why is Batgirl wearing Witchblade gauntlets?" That was my first thought when I saw her. Well, ok, that's not altogether true. That was my first thought when I saw the interior of the book. The cover was something else altogether. I've never really liked any Batgirl other than Barbara Gordon. Not Cassandra Cain, nor Stephanie Brown. Nobody ever mattered to me quite like ol' fire-nethers Gordon. But I'll tell you what, seeing her leaping off the cover of BATGIRL #1 got me more confused than a bi-curious boy-lady. You see, I love Bat-Babs as a character, and that INCLUDES her as Oracle-Babs. Feel free to punch me in my PC nuts but having a character go through being paralyzed by a grotesquely grinning, guffawing madman and still being one of the most important characters in the Bat-Family is one hell of an example of handi-capable. Yes, I actually just typed that. My point being, part of me is excited to see Barbara back in the suit, and part of me is disappointed that she's no longer in the chair.

Also, what does that mean to the continuity of THE KILLING JOKE, one of the greatest Batman stories of all time? Did none of that ever happen? WTF DCnU?? I was all set to be annoyed at the ret-conning of one of my fave Bat-tales, but I guess the LOL is on me. (Note to slf: stop txt-typing this rview.) I won't spoil anything here, but I will admit that the solution presented in this issue is just fine, and didn't piss me off. That being said: the story. Methinks Gail Simone is a horror movie fan. There are elements of the FINAL DESTINATION films here (albeit the original script idea for FD, if you know what that was) as well as THE STRANGERS, starring Scott Speedman and Liv Tyler. That didn't bother me all that much, as she took those elements and made them her own, but what did bother me was some of Batgirl's bat-shit insane mumblings.

"There you are, you rotten monsters. Found you, didn't I? Oh, yes I did, babies. How sad for you."

She sounds like a friggin' maniac, doesn't she? Reading that dialogue, I picture her smearing herself in mayo while eating McNuggets made out of babies. It just felt very out of place for Babs. I'm hoping we won't be seeing any more of that type of monologue from her in the future.

The Art is solid, if not amazing. Solid stuff. I'd say it's akin to Justiniano (sans alleged kiddie-porn tendencies) with just a hint of Adam Kubert. Some interesting, dynamic work here.

I don't want to get too much further into the book, but this is a solid step in the right direction for a character just getting back on her feet.


Writer: Bryan Lunduke
Artist: Bryan Lunduke
Publisher: Bryan Lunduke
Reviewer: Lyzard

Less is more. This old adage proves true in many situations, with ROAD-SIGN HANK AND THE ALIENS being one of those instances. This simple comic, completely stripped of details or complexity, is straightforward storytelling. No distracting bells and whistles are needed for this book. Bryan Lunduke exemplifies how minimalism can really maximize one’s story.

The comic is incredibly straightforward, just like its title. This is, in fact, a story about Hank and some aliens, done in the style of road-signs. Obvious? Yes. Funny? You betcha. We all know the predictable plots of alien invasion tales. This one, I believe, is type 6: hero’s girlfriend gets captured by aliens and hero sets out to rescue his damsel in distress.

The art is incredibly basic, which some may view as a cop-out. Sure, anybody could make a comic with a bunch of clip art. However, using clip art, could you make a good comic? Lunduke is able to take simple shapes and turn them into characters. There are no faces for Lunduke to manipulate nor is the ability to use body language available--merely simple titles establish a change in emotion.

But what makes ROAD-SIGN HANK AND THE ALIENS most effective is the writing. Following the trend of simplicity, the dialogue is straightforward, expository info-dumping. It is the matter of fact tone in which the information is given that gives it humor. No, this is not a laugh out loud comic, but you will chuckle. While most of the events and reactions are obvious, it is the random comments thrown in that boost the quality of the work. Apparently the aliens of Zaxacon 5 hate puppies. That may not seem important to the story, but it sure as heck makes me hate the aliens, which is essential since they are the villains.

Though the comic does not delve into its setting as far as time or location, it does have a 1950-1960s vibe. Beyond the popularity of alien invasion flicks of that era, the fake ads throughout the book are homage to the advertisements that would be included in comics of those days. Even the prices seem more realistic for that time period. At the end of the comic, we are left with many questions enumerated just as at the conclusion of any of the old Batman episodes. While this tale may be unsophisticated, it seems as though it could be a fun serial if Lunduke can keep up his quality of writing.

So…will you pick up this comic (available at Will it live up to the expectations that I have created for you? Will I be torn apart by talk-backers after they read ROAD-SIGN HANK AND THE ALIENS? I guess you’ll just have to stay tuned.

Lyzard is actually Lyz Reblin, a senior screenwriting major with an English minor at Chapman University. Along with writing for AICN, she has been published twice on the subject of vampire films.


Writer: Robert Kirkman
Artist: Ryan Ottley
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche

Someone please challenge me. I want every person out there that can tell the difference between the words Viltrumite and Viagra to tell me in barbaric yawps that I am a fucktard who drinks epic amounts of tard juice from the deepest springs of the planet fuckoff for what I am about to say.

I think INVINCIBLE has lost its mojo. For quite a few months now, I just have not been getting the same feeling of excitement that I would get in early issues of this book. The jokes of poking holes in typical comic tropes, instead of being the garnish to the plot, have become the plot. Plus, there’s such a thing as too much realism in a comic. While not a chubby chaser myself, I’m fine with Atom Eve’s recent decent into the Lane Bryant lifestyle. What I’m not OK with is an entire fucking page of her justifying her fattitude while engaging in the high stakes activity of eating lunch. Have her justify her epic malaise and subsequent form while atomically transforming a car into a giant Yoo-Hoo. These are comics, for God’s sake--I don’t need to see a scene from every Applebee’s across the country.

I don’t mean to pick on Eve specifically, but the page I just described from this issue represents a failing I’ve felt permeating INVINCIBLE since the end of the Viltrumite War: all talk, no action, and very little consequence.

There are a couple reasons this could be happening, that is if you agree with my opinion. And again, if you don’t agree, please challenge me. I want to be convinced to love this title again.

Theory 1: It’s a bitch to come back from war, especially an intergalactic war of superhumans. Wartime truly embodies all of the exhilarating aspects of the human condition in a truncated timeframe; you have birth, love and death all wrapped in a cocoon of non-stop action. It’s very exhilarating, making most of what comes after an epic ho-hum. I felt a similar malaise after the Great War ended in FABLES, and I see INVINCIBLE in the same state of trying to reestablish a status quo before the next great threat rears its ugly head. Perhaps this issue will be that turning point as Cecil Steadman, government handler and great machinist of superhuman activity, unveils his new army on the closing pages. But we’ve seen evil Cecil before; we know exactly where his morality lies at this point, so I don’t know if this will be enough. Fingers crossed, though.

Theory 2: One could wonder if the story is done and INVINCIBLE has merely become the support column for the Kirkman Superverse. The bleed in and bleed out of ancillary characters has increased over time, but the increase has been in exponential overdrive since Kirkman started his own production company. Is the day coming when we will only see INVINCIBLE in the context of WOLFMAN or GUARDIANS OF THE GLOBE? I hope not. INVINCIBLE’S strength has always been grounded in Mark’s inner struggle; the world around him was merely a catalyst for that exploration not the main focus.

Speaking of the external world, I would like to interrupt “Theories of a Madman with Infinite Free Time” to make a comment on the art. I have loved the style of this book from Day One. Iit’s like an Escher painting; the more simplistic and cartoony Ottley gets the more poignant and detailed the images have become. This was especially true during the Viltrumite war – simply time stopping. So it’s with a beggar’s pride that I make this next request of Mr. Ottley, but I think it’s important. Simply changing facial hair does not two characters make. Do whatever you want in the background; personally, I appreciate detail, but I understand the need sometimes for cookie cutter approaches to filler. However, when two characters are central to past and future plots, namely Rex “The Robot” and the recent Vegas smasher The Dinosaur, this level of copycatting borders on unimaginative or uninspired. /blasphemyoff

Oh yeah, theories…

Theory 3: Mark’s story is over. No, not his life story, but did any of us sign on for seventy more years since INVINCIBLE ages pretty much in real time? I’m not sure; if you go back and read early issues INVINCIBLE’S central conflict was with his father and his heritage; most events centered on those two mysteries or unresolved emotional states. Could it be now that both have been quelled by the Viltrumite war and all that really is left for Invincible is to find a home as a godlike entity somewhere else in the Kirkman Superverse? The past few months have really made me feel this way.

I want to care about INVINCIBLE again, but I need a reason. Patience is a virtue that I simply can’t afford when it comes to comics these days; the pages are too sparse and lag time too long to draw out great mysteries. Yes, I will forever love Kirkman’s soliloquies on the woes of the world using the voice of Mark, but I expect those juicy sound bites as well as some real danger and action…ah…perhaps that’s it…maybe this all boils down to load balancing. The Viltrumite was all action and all resolution, while the follow-ups and have been all set-up delivered through all talking. Maybe the golden ticket involves infusing some big-time action into the set-up. And I will give a purple nurple to anyone that says the destruction of Vegas was exciting, it started and ended quicker than a Viltrumite on Viagra.

Something needs to change; perhaps a lot of things for me to feel vested in the INVINCIBLE world again. Please tell me where I am wrong TalkBackers, you’re my only hope.


Writers: Max Fauser, Ethan Slayton, Buck Weiss, Mike Luoma
Artists: Ethan Slayton, Ruth Garcia Martin, Juan Carlos Quattordio, Ben Ferrari
Publisher: Earthbound Comics
Reviewer: BottleImp

I do love me a good anthology. There’s a few reasons; I like the fact that the short story format can be easily digested while still packing a jolt of reading enjoyment. I appreciate the fact that a whole bunch of succinct stories are compressed into one package, usually giving the reader a lot of bang for the buck, so to speak. And then there’s that wonderful characteristic of the anthology, be it in prose or graphic format, that it can run the gamut from containing stories that compose variations on a single theme to stories with no discernable connective theme whatsoever. Much like the recently-revived DARK HORSE COMICS PRESENTS, EARTHBOUND COMICS PRESENTS embraces that latter quality in its eclectic mix of tales. From science fiction to crime drama to superheroes and back again, here’s what you’ll find inside the comic’s cover.

“The Core,” written by Max Fauser and Ethan Slayton with artwork by Slayton, is my favorite segment here and probably the strongest in terms of the visual elements. The reader tags along with a group of human soldiers called to the aid of an alien civilization whose world has been destroyed by a mysterious space anomaly. When the soldiers reach the center of the anomaly, they discover a planet whose inhabitants have been destroyed by an ancient, monstrous force which seeks to reclaim its primordial rule by cleansing the universe of the squabbling, destructive insects who think themselves their world’s masters. In a nutshell, it’s H.P. Lovecraft in space. And as a certified HPL junkie, that makes “The Core” damn fine reading. As I said, this segment is visually the strongest out of the entire anthology. Slayton shows a deft design sense and a mastery of light and shade as he renders both the fantasy and sci-fi trappings and the horror-tinged tentacled Lovecraftian monstrosities.

We switch gears and pull a 90 degree turn for the next story, “Shots Fired. Shake and Bake,” written by Buck Weiss with art by Ruth Garcia Martin. No sci-fi or fantasy here, just the simple goodness of a couple of small-town police officers trying to capture a meth addict without harming the 9-month old baby he’s abducted. This crime drama is well-written with a good pace, as well as a slightly humorous skew given by the attitude of the narrator (one of the officers) towards the proliferation of meth-heads in their small rural community. The artwork is serviceable, but the quality varies drastically from the scenes set out in the bright prairie sunlight and the climax inside the darkened barn. The pages show a good balance of light and dark in the outdoor setting, but the latter section becomes muddled with the overuse of heavy black; I would have loved to see this part of the story handled with a little more judicious use of ink.

Back to the sci-fi genre with “Alibi Jones: In Over His head,” written by Mike Luoma and drawn by Juan Carlos Quattordio. This is a gentle, humorous tale that brings to mind the lighter works of sci-fi legends such as Henry Kuttner or Ray Bradbury, dealing with the inevitable complications that accompany the meetings of two different cultures. Quattordio’s cartooney style makes a good match for this light-hearted segment, though some of his figures end up looking a bit rubber-limbed. With a little refinement and bit more stylization the artwork could be more dynamic; as it stands, the visual component is an adequate complement to Luoma’s well-written story.

Last and least successful is “Villains,” written by Ethan Slayton and drawn by Ben Ferrari. It might be unfair for me to judge this chapter, since the segment is merely a preview for the forthcoming VILLAINS series, but so far this superhero story doesn’t seem to have much going for it aside from its focus on a supervillain as protagonist. Ferrari has a good handle on dynamic page composition, but needs to work more on basic figure drawing and anatomy to really pull the drawings together. Right now there’s so much gape-mouthed grimacing going on that I feel like this story is set in Liefeld-verse. But like I said, this is only a preview, so perhaps I ought to reserve my judgment for a more complete narrative.

So like most anthologies, EARTHBOUND COMICS PRESENTS ends up a mixed bag ranging for the great to the mediocre, though I can definitely see the promise of more good things to come. I’ll be watching to see what Earthbound comes up with next, and hoping for more surprises to scratch my anthology itch.

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Did you enjoy Tony Daniel's previous work on Batman? Well...this is more of that. So much so, in fact, that it doesn't actually feel like it belongs in this new DCnU reboot. It just feels exactly like the stuff I was reading before. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely quality stuff! Batman is bad-ass, the Joker is a maniac, just as we love just doesn't have that "new universe smell" that I've been getting from the other #1 issues this week and last. Ok, sure Jim Gordon has red hair and a red mustache. Batman is wearing his over-designed new suit. Fine. Other than that, though...nadda-so-much. For the most part, Daniel has made great leaps in his drawing style in the past couple years. Used to be a time I couldn't stand him, but he's slowly starting to tumor on me. And there's SOMEthing about the way Daniel is drawing Batman's face and cowl that feels extremely Frank Miller Dark Knight-ish, which is pretty cool. He's also added in some of the Todd Mcfarlane "Batman is a pointy shadow with eyes" look as well from the BATMAN/SPAWN crossover. There is a specific panel, though, that looks dreadful. Check out the page where Batman shows up to see Gordon in front of the Bat-Signal. Gordon looks great, the background is stellar and detailed, but Bats himself looks like he was scanned in from a high-schooler's notebook. And I realize this is probably Daniel's doing as well, but the inking goes from super-detailed, and thinly lined to quick and sketchy, almost messy. It's a little disjointed. Overall, though, this is a solid issue; it just doesn't feel like a great beginning for such a classic title. To stop numbering DETECTIVE COMICS and restart with a #1, it had better bring down the moon, but this is just ...good. -
Johnny Destructo

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Well, the streak had to end sooner or later. Up until this issue, I'
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  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    What Do You Know -- DOOM Is FIRST!

    by V. von Doom

    And back from summer vacation. Fear DOOM!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to Action Comics

    by eric haislar

    I hope that superman gradually grows into the the superman we all love. Learning along the way the responsibility of those powers.

  • What the fuck was that? I've read the review twice, and I came away knowing less about the comic than I started with, each time. I was afraid to read it a third time in case it took the title of the comic and other sundry information out of my head. I think that review actually contained a negative amount of information.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Quote: 'He's rougher around the edges and far weaker in terms of power' Then it's really not Superman, is it? It's some bullshit version concocted to avoid paying royalties, and to "modernize" Superman. If Superman isn't interesting to you until he acts like Batman, THEN GO FUCKING READ BATMAN. When written properly, Superman doesn't need a drop in powers, nor does he need an edge. This is all such bullshit. Might as well call him Poochie and be done with it. Once again, Lee and Dildo can kiss my ass, and you can add Grant Morrison to that offer too.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Johnny Destructo: DOOM Says Compare With The First ACTION #1!

    by V. von Doom

    Note that Superman was not originally associated with "the American Way" -- he was the "defender of the oppressed" back in the days of the Depression. Supes was MUCH more hands-on and rough in those first 1930s issues, dishing it out to the privileged and the authorities who stood in the way of the downtrodden of the time. This looks to be another great idea from the mad mind of Morrison. Aren't we in another economic Depression currently? (Oh, sorry, "Great Recession" they're calling it ...) What would WE have done as young 20-somethings, had we had great powers along with idealistic left-ish-leaning values and lack of understanding of consequences? DOOM agrees with Destructo: THIS should have been the first of the 52 issues of DC Nouveaux. (A.k.a. "DC Implosion of the 21st Century -- DOOM still mourns the cancellation of "Secret Six", amongst half a dozen others ...)

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Really looking forward to Action

    by Laserhead

    Especially as the big JLA debut was 'Batman and Green Lantern walk around talking.' One thing about 'Loose Change' I always thought was assinine, was the guy talking about how a missile must have hit the pentagon, because the 'crash' wasn't shaped like a plane. Like the hole in the pentagon didn't have wings... I wanted to say, It's not a fucking Looney Tunes cartoon. When something hits something else, it doesn't leave a perfect hole-silhouette of itself. That said, I like Garth Ennis' conspiracy about 9/11. The VP was in a bunker, ordering the Air Force to stand down and allow the planes to hit.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Thx for reading BIG LIE Twice v'shael

    by optimous_douche

    Just wondering? Do you subject yourself to everything you hate multiple times? Life is too short man, just read Majin if that's what you dig.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I didn't like Brubaker's Secret Avengers.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Read the first trade. It was a mess. And why does every writer need to create some new ancient malevolence that's older and more powerful than every other ancient malevolence? These guys always have to one up each other and it's tedious. Anyway, Ellis writes great mainstream Marvel stuff, even though he doesn't actually like to do it. So I'll give his run a shot.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST


    by hank henshaw

    I thought the Viltrumite War was a little of a letdown, I actually like the recent quieter issues better. Optimus, you might be on to something about Mark retiring, not only because of what he has been doing and saying after he returned to Earth after the war, but also because one of the future covers has some other guy wearing the Invincible uniform... a reformed Viltrumite maybe?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Prof? Your view?

    by Doctor Manhattan

    Prof - When DC first announced the new 52, you said you believed it was in reaction to the Superman lawsuit, and that DC was trying to create a character of their own that was Supes, but not the Supes the Seigel family now part-owned. Having read Action Comics, do you still believe this to be the case? Because the Superman within is even CLOSER to the original Action Comics Superman than the one DC has been peddling for the past 20 years.

  • I didn't read BIG LIE twice. Or its review twice. I read the SECRET AVENGERS review twice. Apparently, you didn't even read my post once. Not correctly anyway. Good job.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Sorry V'shael

    by optimous_douche

    My bad man...I have a reading disorder that ignores. any? form of punctuation!?!... Plus, I'm just used to being attacked at this point.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Absolutely Doom!

    by Poptard_JD

    I agree, that's why I mentioned that it wasn't so much a NEW Superman as it was a return to the roots, giving it a classic feel. Oh Secret Six, how we enjoyed thee. Ps. Doom...Reed's got sexier hair. Just sayin'. ;)

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    Read what Doom wrote shortly after your post as my response to your sassy words. "Quote: 'He's rougher around the edges and far weaker in terms of power' Then it's really not Superman, is it?" It actually IS Superman, just not the Superman WE grew up with. It's a return to the original version of Supes. Why don't you give it a shot before stomping your feet and running off the playground? It's quite good.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Invincible - Hank

    by optimous_douche

    I hear you Hank, usually Kirkman is one of the masters of the quiet moment AND I usually dig the downtime books in any title. I wish I could really put my finger on where this title has been going amiss for me in recent months. I honestly think especially with this issue it's the heavy handed insertion of the bigger Kirkman Supes universe. It's starting to feel like INVINCIBLE is becoming advertising for these titles instead of just an organic insertion centered around Mark's journey. Basically I don't want Kirkman to sell-out, but with this move on INVINCIBLE and the recent Liefeld cluster, I'm seeing more dollar signs than plot progression.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Your answer defines why I said what I did. WE is a big number when you consider how many years OUR version of Superman has been the one being replaced by this new/old version. I don't give two shits about what Superman was in 1938, what I care about is who he evolved into, more or less, since his inception. The only ones who would remember or even care about the 1938 Superman are too old to care or dead. And I certainly don't want a Superman defined by any socio/economic crisis the US is facing. He's an alien, not some pissed off farmer, or un-employed GM worker. He's here to make US stand up for what is RIGHT and is there to face the stuff we can't handle. Again, you want rough, go read Batman. What Dan Dildo and crew are doing is being justified by lies and bullshit. Trying to appeal to the younger demographic? Really? Then why use Barry Allen as the Flash when Wally has been THE Flash for a few decades now, spanning TV, comics and video games? Trying to bring new readers in without all the baggage of the history of DC? If I'm a new reader I won't know sweet fuck all about the continuity problems of pre/post Crisis. All that aside, the new costumes suck. Jim Lee is stuck in the 90's, all the high-neck and armour is just silly. I love trying to have an open mind about most things, but if they really wanted to bring in new readers, they could have done so without taking a shit over years of material that we've grown to love. It's called writing good stories, not big convoluted stunts. I like stomping my feet. It's fun to do in here. In real life I have to be level-headed and mature, but AICN affords me an avenue to moan and wail and say that Dan Dildo can suck my ass. I won't pay one red cent for any of these issues, I would say I would read some if my friends bought any of them, but most of my friends who are hard-core DC fans have left the company because of this nonsense.

  • We did an audio spoiler review for Flashpoint, Action, Detective, Batgirl and Batwing on the podcast ..

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I am so angry about superhero comics!

    by rev_skarekroe

    They made something different! How dare they? HOW DARE THEY!?!?!?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Dr. Manhatten...

    by Prof

    ...I still hold to my belief that the changes being made to Superman and the whole line got their start in the copyright lawsuit. As to what is or isn't changed in the Superman part of the relaunch is still up in the air for me as to where it goes from here. Like I've said repeatedly, though, I think the key things to keep in mind while observing what happens is that the judges have been consistent in avoiding delineating specific and discrete elements (i.e., Lois, Daily Planet, etc.) to either party but deal with it as an undivided shared ownership of the whole. However, the Gaiman decision is a possible precedent that could support two versions of, essentially, the same character being viewed as separate copyrights. In such a case, all of this hullabaloo still supports that notion of DC getting their ducks in a row to argue (if they have to) that the modern version of Superman may be a derivative of the original but sufficiently original to sustain their claim of ownership. Long way to say that I'm sitting back and watching with interest but I'm not seeing anything that refutes my thesis, only my suggestions of possible ways DC might try to get around it. I'm always cognizant, however, that all the information is never made public so whenever I, or anyone, speculates on what's "going" to happen it falls in the arena of just that...speculation. I would hope that everybody kind of gets that. :)

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Secret Avengers

    by Joenathan

    I really liked the art and the new Ellis stuff, but the rendition of Moon Knight was a failure. What is it about the character that so many artists seem to struggle with? It's like his hood and mask just confounds them.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    I agree with you. I've been trade waiting on Invincible and it's been taking me longer and longer each time to get around to reading them. I even picked up the last one in my LCS and went: "eh... I'll get it later." Definitely lost its mojo

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    Good point about Barry Allen, I asked Geoff Johns the same thing and his response actually made sense. It also applies to Hal Jordan. They both have classic origins that aren't tied to other characters. Think about it.. Hal Jordan get's the ring from a dying alien. Kyle Raynor got the ring after Hal murdered the entire GL corps and got it from a Guardian in the back alley behind a club. Hal wins. Barry Allen was a Forensic Scientist that got hit by electrified chemicals while working in the lab to become the Scarlet Speedster. Wally West got hit by electrified chemicals in Barry Allen's lab when Barry set up the exact same scenario to show Wally what had happened and .....the exact same thing happened again?!?! As much as I love Wally, that always stuck in my craw. Barry Wins. I for one, and glad to see a take on Superman that we haven't seen for awhile. That character has been stale for me since I was a kid.. Sorry you don't like the new stuff that's coming out, but it sounds a lot like you're judging it without reading it, and still making a big stink over it for no reason.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Who writes these reviews?

    by MikeTheSpike

    Honest-to-goodness teenagers? Take "I won't spoil anything here, but I will admit that the solution presented in this issue is just fine, and didn't piss me off," for example. On what level is that an interesting, informative sentence? Maybe if I was Johnny Destructo's buddy and we were having some conversation, sure, alright. But it's supposed to be a goddamn review; if you don't want to spoil it, fine, but then nobody really cares that something you won't explain didn't piss you off. Among about fifty other things.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Nightarrows: It sounds a lot like ..

    by Poptard_JD

    when people used to ban books and have book burnings, without ever having read the books they were burning!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Action Comics

    by Joenathan

    It sounds good. I will be picking it up today. I don't know what else I'll get though... Bat-wing, maybe. I'll peruse Green Arrow, Men of War, maybe Stormwatch too, we'll see.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    I'm glad my fellow @$$holes...

    by Prof

    ...are reading and reviewing these DC books. :) I will probably be picking up the trades on ACTION and BATGIRL if the reactions hold up. JL? Not so much. JLI? Nah. I like how Didio says explictly in his interviews that this is NOT a "reboot" and that your favorite stories all happened. Yet, JLI is taking place "now" and there's apparently never been a JLI before based on the dialogue I've read, such as Guy telling Batman he's worked with Booster "a couple of times." Every past JLI story is now relegated to non-existence. How is that NOT a reboot? This is what pisses me off the most about the reboot, DC pussied out and wouldn't just really do it. They want to be able to just pick and choose which is going to eventually bring us more Hawkman-style confusion in a few years if they hold to it. Yay!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    Batwing was pretty solid, if not a little sparse. It's worth checking out, for sure. I didn't review it for today's article cause I was afraid I was monopolizing the reboots since I have early access to the books.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Sounds like DC is making the same mistake they made when Crisis happened

    by rev_skarekroe

    Some of these titles are starting from scratch, some aren't, and there's no firm way to tell which is which. In a few months different writers and artists will be referencing character's histories in contradictory ways and the confusion will begin. Look for some sort of equivalent of Zero Hour or Infinite Crisis a couple of years down the road.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Action #1 is FANTASTIC

    by Snookeroo

    Just finished reading it - and it doesn't disappoint. I agree with the reviewer that this should have been the lead comic for the New 52. I can also see where some readers would compare this Superman to Batman in terms of character change, but that's not really accurate. I suspect we'll be hearing that kind of description a lot, but that kind of comparison comes from not being familiar with the first issues of Action comics and Superman as he was originally conceptualized. What Morrison has done is take the character back to his roots. This is the Superman of Siegel and Shuster - in fact some of his antics from this first issue are lifted straight from Action comics #1, 1938, but with a modern twist. In my opinion, this is exactly what the character needed - Superman was never intended to be a boy scout (as if that's a bad thing?) He was conceived as a power to right that which was wrong, which the powerless could not touch. Superman was very self-aware, and frankly, LIKED being Superman. He has a good time scaring bad guys, and has no qualms about taking the law into his own hands. Most of all, Superman is FUN. Something I think this new revision has plugged in to - hopefully with great continued success. It would be really great to see Superman on top of the sales charts again - where he belongs. One nitpick - this is the dopiest costume the character has ever had; the half-Smallville/half-Superman clothes don't make a lot of sense. However, the story/art is so well executed, it's easily overlooked.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Detective Comics #1

    by mrm1138

    So if I haven't liked any of Tony S. Daniels's Batman stuff, the "more of the same" review means I should probably avoid this comic. /sigh. Between this and Batman: The Dark Knight (and the hiatus of Batman Incorporated), there really aren't many quality Batman books on the stands right now. Can't Scott Snyder just write all of them?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Batgirl #1 is is nice start...

    by Snookeroo

    I would have bought it for the Adam Hughes cover alone, but the interior artwork is gorgeous as well. I like Barbara Gordon as Batgirl - what can I say? This first issue works well; the adjustments that she has to make in her new role are enticing. That being said, the Big Bad featured in this issue is kind of "meh", but it's worth following this title at least for a while to see how it develops.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Regarding the Barry Allen choice, if that's their way of starting fresh, then so be it. It makes sense and yet it goes against everything they say they are trying to avoid. SO the Flash we knew and loved over the past 24 years is GONE because they didn't want to confuse younger readers with a lot of backstory and continuity issues. Younger readers who most likely have already read or have seen Wally as the Flash and yet starting NOW there is a different Flash than they're used to who has an origin that won't confuse new readers? A Flash who is only relevant to OLDER readers who read Barry as the Flash and understood and stuck with the transition to Wally? Fucking absolutely stupid and sums up WHY I don't need to read the books before condemning the rationale BEHIND them.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    And furthermore

    by NightArrows

    I guess people ARE too stupid to let them discover the history of a character on their own, complexities and flaws and all, which was part of the joy of reading comics. Instead, let's spoon feed them a simple, uncomplicated serving of basic, right up front. Call of Duty Generation unite! Let's have Superman snapping necks and killing because being a boyscout is for pussies. Batman used a gun in the old days, give him a fucking M14! YEAH! FUCK YEAH! Superman can fly into corporate headquarters around the world and start killing CEOs because they've 'done us all wrong'. Enjoy your books gentlemen.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    If you're going to overhaul the line...

    by Prof

    ...then it's an opportunity to take Barry Allen, for example, and hip him up. He doesn't have to be a crewcut dork anymore. Make some real change. In fact, Barry doesn't even have to be a lily-white blong, white guy anymore if we're being honest. Same with Hal as GL or any of the characters. Starting over gives you an opportunity to maintain the past licensed versions of the characters but chart a whole new world. DC pussied out almost immediately out of the starting gate by inserting Cyborg in the JL in an attempt to diversify rather than truly reimagining some of their top archetypes in ways that better reflect the racial and cultural make-up of the country and the world today.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    fair enough. I will enjoy my books!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan


  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    fine, but then nobody really cares that something you won't explain didn't piss you off.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    I honestly don't think this is a reboot. It's an alternate timeline. I think they're trying to do the same thing Abrams did with Star Trek. All the old stories happened, they had to happen, in order for someone to go back and make a change in the timeline. If the original stories didn't happen, the person who changed the timeline couldn't have happened. So all your old sotires happened. Calm down. They still exist. This is an alternate timeline, one that could be undone, if it doesn't work out, or could just continue on and (hopefully) allow them to clean up some continuity clutters. Most of all: Calm the fuck down.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

    My whole writing style is that of someone having a conversation with a buddy. Sorry you don't like that. And the fact that I don't spoil something but say that that something didn't piss me off lets the reader know that "hey, if you were worried about how they might ret-con the Killing Joke, don't be worried. I was worried, but you know what? It DIDN'T piss me off, so maybe it would piss you off either, maybe you should give it a chance." I think most people understood what I was saying with that sentence without having to spell it out for them like I just did for you. Sorry you don't like the reviews though. I'll try harder to appeal to you, Mikethespike specifically, in my future reviews. If you'd like to send me the reviews that you write so that I have a better understanding of what you'd like, that would be helpful.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    wink wink, smiley face, ass-slap.

    by Poptard_JD

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    agreed, Joenathan

    by Poptard_JD

  • ...which is really an arrogant position that assumes everyone else is worked up when they may just have a different pov on the topic and care enough to talk about it. Discussing and debating and opining on an event does not mean someone is "worked up" and needs to "calm down." How about if you don't want to be a part of the discussion, you maybe think about avoiding those discussions rather than self-appointing yourself to direct how people behave -- especially when the behavior you're correcting is nothing more than projection.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    If it's an alternate universe...

    by NightArrows

    Then Biff would be running the show.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Biff has a copy of the Overstreet Comics Buyer's Guide...

    by Prof

    ...from 2015.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Then we're fucked.

    by NightArrows

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    No Prof, I disagree

    by Poptard_JD

    some of the people above ARE a bit worked up and do need to calm down. If someone started yelling "Fuck DC" in person, you better believe I'd tell them to calm down. How is it projection to calmly state an opinion and then tell the people who are ranting to calm down "projection"? Methinks someone ELSE is projecting. again: wink wink smiley face ass-slap.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    I do agree with the Barry thing though

    by Poptard_JD

    Someone mentioned just because it's Barry doesn't mean it has to be "crew cut" Barry, and that's an excellent point. Maybe put together some of the personality traits of Barry and Wally to make a slightly more interesting character wouldn't be so bad. I've never been a Barry fan, if I could pick a Flash it would def be Wally. I'm not saying that I agree with Barry being the Flash, but I do understand the reasoning behind the decision.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Also, prof

    by Poptard_JD

    Isn't telling someone to stop telling other folks to "calm down" the same thing as telling other folks to "calm down"? You don't like that he's being arrogant by telling other people what to do, but you're telling him what to do. Isn't that also arrogant by your standards?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Calm down, prof

    by Joenathan

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Not necessarily..

    by Prof

    ...just like if (as I've experienced) I'm sitting in a restaurant and I suddenly hear a guy yell "Fred, you stupid motherfucker!" and then a guy gets up from his chair and the two guys embrace and start laughing. I don't assume salty language online means someone is "worked up" anymore than those two guys. I don't say "Fuck DC" but I've said I'm tired of just bending over and taking it. :) But I don't really care that much or get worked up over it. It's funnybooks. Nobody's forcing me to buy anything. But I've got lots of opinions about it. I assume everyone to be even-keeled until they start veering off on to personal attacks, so that's my projection. DC is a corporation and you can't go on a personal attack against a corporation.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Took Poptard a minute to catch my irony...

    by Prof


  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I agree with poptard_jd

    by rev_skarekroe

    Some people on this site do need to calm down. There are lots of things in the world worth getting angry about, but DC's reboot, the World War Z film, The Thing remake, the Star Wars blu-rays, and really anything else discussed on AICN don't make the damn list. At all. Now, if you think all of the above are stupid, pointless, or inept that's fine. It's fun to talk about your favorite forms of entertainment. Just don't get upset about them 'cause it's phenomenally inconsequential in the big scheme of things.

  • ...and winky smilies aren't always a good substitute for simple tone of voice. :D

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    hence my winkwinksmileyfaceassslapnipplepinch.

    by Poptard_JD

    i wish there was an emoticon for that!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    George Lucas raped my childhood

    by Prof

    See? Perfect example of something that can be both an indicator of someone overreacting OR a hilarious statement of overexaggerated absurdity to drive home the actual point of how stupid it is to worry so damn much about this stuff. It's sort of the Internet's version of "Blazing Saddles" as gloriously racist to illustrate the absurdity of racism. "Bulworth" would be an example of a failed attempt at such.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    ps. i'm transcribing this Geoff Johns/Jim Lee interview.

    by Poptard_JD

    and my fingers are falling off. WHY isn't there a decent word to text app???

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    A nipple-pinch smilie would be grand

    by Prof

    (o)X Maybe?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I think that reads more like Boob-Anus!

    by Poptard_JD

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    or a sideways Mute-Cyclops.

    by Poptard_JD

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    maybe: >(o)<

    by Poptard_JD

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    That works for me!

    by Prof

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    >(o)< works for me!

    by Prof

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    a tidbit of the Geoff Johns interview:

    by Poptard_JD

    Geoff: That's the thing. I love Wally West, I grew up with him. You're right. Literally almost everything I've ever written, besides Green Lantern, has been wiped out by this. So that should tell you something, if I'm willing to go along with it. I believe that the potential for stories is there, and my books are still there. The Hawkman trades or JSA, or Superboy. I'm proud of those. And it's funny when people say "you just love the Silver Age characters". I grew up with John Stewart and Wally West. I have no affinity towards any age, I just love DC.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I just love the Silver Age characters.

    by Snookeroo

    And I say that in all calmness.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    WOAH. WOAH. Awright there Snookeroo, settle down, chief.

    by Poptard_JD

    Seriously, I'll have you booted off this site if you don't CALM. The HELL. DOWN.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Geoff Johns

    by NightArrows

    Of course the potential for stories is there when you've reset everything 50 years. Everything old is new again.

  • Look at DD #1 by Waid to see how to do it flawlessly.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Sorry PT

    by Snookeroo

    Sometimes I just go off the rails.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Invincible is still great. What you have to understand is that

    by cookepuss

    1) It can't all be balls out, skull crushing, disemboweling action. For that, we could watch an afternoon's worth of Eli Roth & Michael Bay movies. 2) Kirkman's not stupid. This "quiet time" is all about maneuvering the chess pieces around again. I'm convinced that Kirkman's building to some fairly big stuff and that many of these stories will converge. It just takes time. He's fantastic with "slow burn" storytelling. If that's a little too boring for your ADHD preferences then fine. However, After 9 years, you've got to know that this is how he works. He's gotta set his house of cards up if he wants to knock it down. Frankly, I don't mind the scene with Atom Eve. It's realistic. It's also called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT - something which many writers from the big 2 have forgotten how to do. It's nice to see other sides to these characters and that they're subject to the same failings as we regular mortals are. That Eve should be looked down upon by her own peers for something so superficial is raw. That it should come so suddenly and so far out of left field is just real. Kirkman does an excellent job of balancing the hyper-violent action with the down to Earth realism that used to permeate Marvel stuff 25 years ago. Don't fault him for telling a story. I also think that, given his page restrictions, it's amazing how much he crammed into this issue. It's rich with texture. A bit of Cecil here. Some Mark there. Toss in a dash of Robot and Eve. Garnish with some Dinosaurus. There's a lot going on here and its as if Kirkman's been masterfully juggling puppies and chainsaws all his life. Had this been a typical Bendis book, no offense to him, that whole Eve scene would've occupied one issue. No. Kirkman crams in everything but the kitchen sink here. The man doesn't skimp. If you feel that things have gone downhill since the war (or even before) don't fret. With Kirkman, things will pick up when you least expect it. The last thing he wants is for everybody's life to be perfectly happy. People are going to be at each other's throats again soon enough. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Mark declares himself the planet's ruler somewhere down the line, succeeding where Omni-Man failed. He just seems headed down that path, as he's gotten tired of punching small time bad guys as his method of conflict resolution. I think that he's going to surpass Cecil for the "shady dude crown" in due time. Let's also not forget that the Viltrumite War really does have consequences. We just haven't seen them yet. Humanity lost the war. The Viltrumites are living among them and could go nuts at any moment. (Would be interesting to see them as Mark's dark inner circle down the line, should he take that path.) Just because the bloodshed has stopped doesn't mean that everything's all roses. Let's also not forget the reanimated alterna-Invincibles that Cecil has cooked up. That's gonna get ugly soon enough too. Plus, Cecil just hired that wannabe bank robber. That's not going to turn out well. What about the PTSD afflicted Robot? Do you honestly think that he'll be able to manage EVERY superhero team without dropping the ball or maybe turning into some sort of megalomaniac? In Kirkman I trust. Invincible hasn't jumped any shark. It's just shifted gears in preparation for the next round of insanity.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    I really enjoyed the first 2 issues!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    About those reboots...

    by Snookeroo

    There was a time when the average comic book buyer's interest in the medium lasted about three years. So about every three years or so, you would see the same stories (often the VERY same story/art) pop up with a slightly altered cover - Jimmy Olsen was a particularly notorious title for that sort of thing. But with the advent of a comic buying community that began to continue the hobby for ten, twenty, even thirty years the whole continuity issue became a whole lot more problematic - it also had the effect of creating a universe that was increasingly harder to break into for the casual reader. And I'm speaking from experience - I've been a casual collector for 45 years, only recently really trying to get heavily back into the medium. The current (until last week) DC Universe is very convoluted, and the number of titles is enormous - sometimes taking volumes of issues to follow one story arc. So count me as one of the new converts. I'm glad to see the slate wiped relatively clean - hopefully this will mean some more tightly contained stories as well.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    So now Superman is like Batman!

    by Ditko

    How original! I hope they make Batman more like Flash! And Flash more like I dunno, aunt May! Can´t wait til DC reboots again, and we get the old Action Comics numbering again.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    gotta disagree prof

    by spidercoz

    not to go offtopic or anything, but since the Supreme Court ruled that corporations ARE people, ANY attack against a corp can be a personal attack but that's an entire argument unto itself we now return you to fanboy theatre

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    re: cheesy line in action comics

    by foree forehead

    i been reading a lot of morrison's stuff lately (doom patrol, animal man) and he's not averse to throwing in some over the top phrases - i think he occasionally does this to stop some of his work from getting too "serious", from being crushed under its on portentous weight. a little steam valve of sorts, for when the prismatic meanings get a bit overblown. in other words, morrison, more than anyone, knows that he's totally full of shit. brilliant writer, easily my favorite.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Did anyone read Animal Man #1? It was awesome.

    by Poptard_JD

    Creepy and interesting. Not sure about the new costume, but it's better than those ridiculous ski-goggles!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Jurisprudence recognizes Corporations as "People"..

    by Prof a legal "fiction" to allow a Corporation to sue and be sued -- not for purposes of maintaining a civil action against another for a "personal" attack.


  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    it's more than that prof...

    by spidercoz

    corporations have first amendment rights now just wait till they're allowed to vote

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by Prof

    Okay. I get jokes.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    hopefully this will mean some more tightly contained stories as well

    by NightArrows

    As a visual metaphor: Cartman taking a shit in the bowl his mother holds as to not divert attention from WoW. It started out solid, and moving in one direction, and then sprayed everywhere covering her and the surroundings in shit.

  • the context we were talking about above. :) But you know that.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I think the metaphor...

    by Prof

    ...of a tightly compacted dirty bomb that is fine and harmless until it explodes and then...impossible to contain. That's the future I see for the rebootiverse.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't mind the reboot.

    by cookepuss

    I've always read DC stuff before, but more sporadically - with me most interested during the 52 mini. However, as somebody who's far more into Marvel, the whole nu52 thing has made DC more accessible to me. I don't know how it'll all pan out, but I'd have to say that the last full on reboot (Crisis) didn't totally offend people.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST

    You're not alone, rsanata74

    by Joenathan

    I'm also interested. I picked Action and Bat-wing. I think they're are a lot of us who are now interested in checking out some familiar characters we like minus a lot of their baggage and choking continuity chains and leaving issue 448 or 673 or 359 or whatever behind. The "offended" kids are actually just a small group of stuck-in-ambers who are embarassing themselves really loudly all over the Internet, kind of like the SDCC "protest" walk. Sound and fury signifying nothing.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    The New Avengers annual was a lot of fun. Wonder Man anti-Avengers bullshit comes to a head. It's good stuff. The Revengers have a great roster.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    yeah I realize that, prof

    by spidercoz

    just trying to make a completely unnecessary and out of place point :P please continue dowsing the nerd rage

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    ACTION 1 - Superman is NOT Like Batman

    by optimous_douche

    OK, just read ACTION 1. The new Superman is NOTHING like Batman. Batman revels in inflicting pain before delivering justice. Batman is (or was haven't read enough yet) a master of pain, has studied the different nerve centers to inflict the most agony. Batman is out to hurt the bad guys, some could argue more so than saving the good guys. Superman is like a big dumb Golden Retriever. He's inflicting pain, but only because he's so sunshine happy to be saving people he's forgetting the details of his actions. Just like when my dog greets people, he wants to jump on them and love them, problem is he's 90 pounds so his love fucking hurts. That's the new Superman..slightly careless. I guarantee this will change, probably as one of his first life lessons. Personally, me like. This is indeed a fresh start and I couldn't agree more with the comments saying this should have been the launch title for the new DCU. Of course, I'm also the guy that's been saying they should have only launched with ACTION 1 and DETECTIVE 1.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    I don't mind the reboot either...

    by Prof be honest. What I mind is the half-assed manner in how it's been executed. Either go all in with it or don't. They've been pulling these little mini-reboots every few years since the original CRISIS, starting with MAN OF STEEL which rebooted Superman differently than the status quo at the end of CRISIS. How many times have we had Hawkman rebooted since CRISIS? How many different origins for Wonder Woman and Wonder Girl. Jason Todd got rebooted after CRISIS where he suddenly wasn't a circus kid anymore with blond hair but a juvie hubcap stealer with black hair. Then all the various CRISIS redos of the last 10 years all just muddied it all up even worse as nobody knew what "did" or "didn't" happen or how anything fit together anymore. A linewide reboot was a great idea. But they didn't do that. They gave everyone a clean slate...the same way they did with ZERO HOUR and ONE YEAR LATER etc. As soon as one writer starts referencing some past story and another writer conflicts with that in their story the road to needing to fix it all will start again. The pattern is pretty well set. The details will change, but the pattern of editorial and publishing behavior is predictable. Fun to watch. The cool thing will be if it results in longterm sales increases overall and not just shifting around the same static pool of comic-buying money. We won't see and evaluate on those numbers for another 6 to 9 to 12 months. And folks like me will be waiting on the trades to sample the stories. Hopefully the teams will have their legs under them after a few months and the trades will be complete and good stories.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    INVINCIBLE - Nicely put Santa

    by optimous_douche

    I agree with every one of your sentiments, I'm starting to get bored though. I guess this was sort of my tantrum in the checkout line. I appreciate the "out of comic" moments with Eve, but this was sort of a "last" straw for me on that front. She's wined about her junk in the trunk for a little long now. Point delivered, she's fat and moderately comfortable with it. I know the stories will eventually converge, I just hope they do so within the pages of INVINCIBLE. I don't want to see this book damaged in the name of the all mighty cross title upsell.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    How do I put this?

    by Prof

    I actually think they SHOULD have poured the baby out with the bathwater. They could make a new and better baby. :)

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST


    by Joenathan

    It's essential when it comes to being a non-lunatic comic fan. There are moments in long term continuity where you just have to let the contradictions go and enjoy the story, if it's well written and drawn.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    when does it stop being a "reboot" and just become a "ripoff"?

    by spidercoz

    There's gotta be a line. It's like an Asylum mockbuster, how close can you get to the original material and still be a unique entity? Is it still "Superman"? Or is it "Uberman"?

  • ...just sayin'

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Repeat - again

    by Hedgehog000

    Dagnabbit, can't Clark be something other than a reporter? It hasn't made sense for years and makes none now. Having him be a scientist or something would be so much more plausible. Say what you will about the lame way Spiderman was rebooted, but at least Peter Parker's finally doing something other than taking pictures of himself.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    LEX LUTHOR 3.0

    by Prof

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Just read Action 1 on iPad

    by David Cloverfield

    Digital distribution rules. So did the comic. I don't see Batman in NuSupes at all. All the "edgy stuff" was right out of Golden Age supes stories. This supes is more socially conscious than before. I love that.

  • 1) Image has proven that it can't handle crossover events. Their last attempt, IMAGE UNITED, was supposed to be 6 issues, but never saw publication beyond 2 or 3. Any attempt at promoting their other titles via such an event would be foolhardy and I'm pretty sure they know it by now. 2) INVINCIBLE itself has become somewhat of a hub book for the Image universe. In the past, we've see characters from Capes, Tech Jacket, Wolfman, Savage Dragon, and so on appear in this book. At the very least, it's the core of a Kirkmanverse. As such, it's highly unlikely any story started here will finish elsewhere or serve the agenda of some other book or creator. As far as Eve goes, I'm not sure I see it as whining. Women are just highly critical of their own bodies and very self-aware when it comes to these things. If you've ever been around a woman who has suddenly gone from hubba hubba to chubba chubba then you know that's all they think about. The reason why I don't necessarily see it as whining is because this such a heavy issue for her it'll ultimately affect the development of her character. Should she lose the weight and go back to her old look, you can be pretty sure that the her old personality will NOT return with it. It's going to affect her relationships with everybody from Kate to Mark, and even herself. It's a more internalized sort of character development; Comparatively, Mark is shaped more by the events around him. In a way, even if it might be more mundane, I applaud Kirkman for at least giving us a more believable type of woman. You'd never see Emma Frost or Psylocke pick up a Twinkie. You'd certainly never see them complaining about fitting into their old clothes. Maybe it's me, but I think that those little things really separate Invincible from other books on the rack. Most comic writers are guys. Most of those guys can't write women for shit. Kirkman, at the very least, is more on the nose here. If character development is your thing then you can probably see the merit in it. I don't necessarily love it when women obsess or harp on things, but that's just sort of what they do sometimes (read: all of the time). As an issue of practicality, writing women as he does, I can see this book being more appealing to some women who might not normally dig comics. I get how you see it as whining though.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    hehe -- you said heavy issue

    by optimous_douche

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Damn Straight on Justice League International JD

    by optimous_douche

    Wow...not one damn chuckle in the whole book. I can go back to the 86' JL and still laugh at some of the moments....excuse me, I mean Bwahaha First off, two Andy Kaufman's on the team wears thin after three pages. OK, we got it...Russia and China no likee each other, and you guys speak broken English. I can guess I can live with the transference of sexual energy from Gardner and Ice to the British Babe and Booster, but instead of Sam and Diane it will be Sookie and Eric instead. Booster's kind of horny and the British chick is as well, so you know they'll probably fuck. Gardner and Ice will remain a love chase for the ages... And to keep the Cheers analogies coming, I do like using Batman as the Coach to Booster's Sam. And a clandestine coach at that...thumbs up on the choice. But the lack of irreverence made this heart breaking for me...truly... If we need to get Giffen on the book to bring the next generation of Bwhaha to the stands - than do so STAT DC.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST

    The Big Lie

    by kungfuhustler84

    A good read and an excellent premise, even if the last half was a little lacking in execution. I agree, both with the similarities to Loose Change, and that the husband was a dick. You didn't care so much if some of those characters died, but that's not the point, since you kind of know it's gonna happen anyway with them yammering away. It's more of a retrospective examining a conspiracy through a very special lens which allows factual evidence, followed by a foregone conclusion. Still it takes less time to get through Loose Change, and was definitely more entertaining.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    ADDENDUM - Detective Comics #1

    by mrm1138

    Okay, that was actually pretty decent. Not as good as Action #1, but I kept waiting for it to lose my attention (as much of Daniel's Batman run did), and it didn't.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Justice League International - Humor?

    by Gislef_crow

    Well, it isn't necessarily supposed to be the USA JL of Giffen. It had some attempts at humor. The line by Batman about Booster Gold asking him if the UN knows he's there, and Batman saying, "You don't know me very well, do you?" was mildly humorous.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST

    it is kinda too bad DC didn't go all in..

    by sonnyhooper

    ...and just throw out all of the "continuity" from the last 26, 50, or 70 years (whatever your geek clock is set to). fuck that shit, who needs it, fuck it in the ass with a chinese monkey. most of the "continuity" sucks anyway. if they did throw out everything EXCEPT for green lantern and batmans recent history than thats REALLY fucking stupid. <p> i've been re-reading johns run on green lantern and i gotta tell you, it's fucking ponderous to get through. almost every issue starts with "i'm hal jordan. blaahh blaah, dying alien gave me a ring blah, blah, parallax, blah blah i felt fear. blahh, blahh i betrayed the corps." <p> who fucking NEEDS all that shit? who even WANTS all of that shit? i'm really starting to wish DC wiped the slate clean for everyone. it really wouldn't bother me at all if "blackest night" and "emerald twilight" never actually "happened". or if dick grayson wasn't even born yet in the DCnU. it's gonna kind of suck to get a brand, spanking, new superman but at the same time be stuck with the same old batman and green lantern. ya know?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    sorry, i'll calm down now.

    by sonnyhooper


  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    real-world crisis

    by foree forehead

    the more i think about it the more it seems dc actually attempted to achieve a post-modern Crisis with its reboot, i.e. their Marketing department was punching walls and causing ripples to influence certain realities including ours, you know, the real one. seriously though: dc created a sort've self-implosion spiralling drainhole of thing with this real-world go-digital stuff. they made superman and batman and wonder-woman sort've.. become.. real.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Now I will admit to only taking a glance through Action 1 while at the comic store tonight, I must say, it's fucking stupid. He can barely stop a train? If I want to see that from a hero, I'll read Spiderman, where the physical limits are such. Wow, how original. Superman isn't so Super. He has problems. What an interesting take on the character. This looks to be rubbish. Now, that being said, I only glanced through it so my half-assed opinion is simply based on that. The art sucks too.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    bwahaha! my nipple pinch emoticon is sweeping the nation!

    by Poptard_JD

    well, ok it's sweeping a person. well done sonnyhooper!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Re: The Big Lie

    by Doug

    There was a good article on Counterpunch this week regarding the supposed 9/11 conspiracy. Alexander Cockburn does a good job dispelling the myths that have emerged regarding the attacks. It's a waste of time for the left to keep beating this dead horse. There are too many other things with which we should be concerned.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    My memory isn't good enough to worry about continuity...

    by Shit_Skribbler

    So I'm on board with the re-boot, but would have liked a full re-boot better, a la the Ultimate Universe but all in. I gave both Johns's GL and Morrison's Batman shots and dropped both. Not sure which is more ludicrous Batmen of the world or rainbow rings. But just like before, if the they tell good stories, I'll buy the books. Really looking forward to the second-stringers who are getting shots like the Demon and Animal Man (my shop was out).

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Swamp Thing is well worth a read.

    by Shit_Skribbler

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    he's slowly starting to tumor on me

    by Shit_Skribbler

    Best typo of the day!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Anybody pick up Morning Glories today?

    by BlaGyver

    And if you did, can we PLEASE talk about this fucking series? I'm loving it.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:01 a.m. CST

    9/11 truthers = Obama birthers

    by OutsideChance

    Each are the idiot dregs of their respective political groups, so consumed with hatred for the other side that they'll believe anything no matter how many times it is debunked.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    shit_skribbler: it wasn't a typo

    by Poptard_JD

    i meant to type tumor :)

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I stopped reading MornGlories back in issue 5..

    by Poptard_JD

    it just didn't keep my attention. maybe if I read it in trades it'll speak to me more.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 1:43 a.m. CST

    9/11 conspiracies are not left wing

    by hst666

    Many in the middle and right believe it as well.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    JLI suckitude

    by MrMajestic

    Who's bright idea was it to stick Dan Jurgens as writer for JLI? Okay maybe they didn't want the old Giffen/DeMatteis/Jones writing but couldn't it at least be fun? I mean if you didn't want any of that old magic why then stick Bats/Guy/Ice/Booster/Red/Fire in there? Were Bats, Guy and Booster really the best choice for an International team? I still remember when the Bwahaha! days ended and then just like now the powers-that-be gave JLA and JLI to Jurgens. He sucked at it back then too.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:52 a.m. CST

    That Big Lie review?

    by eveelcapitalist

    Here's the thing, the only reason you review a book like that is to condemn it in the strongest terms possible. I don't give a flying fuck if you think it could contain some nugget of truth within its pages, you condemn it in the harshest fucking terms you can think of. When Rick Veitch says Bush or the US government did or allowed the terrorist attacks of ten years ago to happen, you kick him in the nuts. Give him no fucking quarter. Even if he says the sky is blue, you fucking DEMAND a second opinion from an independent source. There is no excuse for this fucking bullshit. Do no qualify, do not allow these fucks any amount of breathing room. Do not agree with them in the slightest. They are all lying fucking scumbags. Veitch now ranks just above child pornographers in my eyes. Fuck him and I'll be damned if I ever buy anything with his name attached ever again. By the by, those Loose Change assholes were all arrested for selling drugs to kids. How do you like them apples? are a fucking COWARD! You think you're somehow being reasonable and moderate by waffling or by swallowing just a little of that poison bullshit? Admit it, you've fallen for these disgusting ideas hook, line and sinker. You plug these vile ideas, you only express the most mildest of disagreements, and apparently the only problem with the book is, what? Characterization? Really? Fuck you! Fuck you, you fucking sloppy cunt. You're an absolute fucking disgrace. Here's what happened. A bunch of cavedwelling fucks committed to some lunatic notion that we should all worship some bogeyman and his child raping prophet attacked the United States on September 11th, 2001. Somehow or another, they thought killing thousands of innocent people would convince the world of the righteousness of their ideas. Unsurpisingly, no one was convinced. The United States government did not egg these people on. The nation did not ask for it. There was no conspiracy to allow it to happen. There was no profit to be made in killing 3,000 Americans. There was no profit to be made in destroying so much New York City real estate. There was no profit in invading Afghanistan. There was no profit in invading Iraq. President Bush was not, in fact, a mustache twirling supervillain working for the Joooooos or trying to avenge his father's failures. Fuck you very much and good night.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Angel & Faith Cover is terrible!

    by Jam Banjo

    Looks like a friggin bobble head Angel. Nobody else notice this? Awful.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST


    by alexander

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:50 a.m. CST


    by foree forehead

    the u.s. (in much of the muslim world) eggs "those people" on every day with their military/political support of israel. no profit in invading afghanistan or iraq? have you lost your mind? there's a gas pipeline the size of sweden running through the former, and cheney admitted that taking hussein out was all about the oil after that whole, y'know, wmd thing. loose change guys sold drugs to kids? oh no. the neocon cabal BOMBED kids to smithereens, there's your fucking "apples". and as a bonus, here's bush yukking it up about those self-same missing reasons for invading in 2003, you selective memory morons make me sick:

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:52 a.m. CST

    evelcapatalist - BIG LIE

    by optimous_douche

    Not that you care much about my opinion right now, but I applaud your fervent conviction and unwavering faith. You remind me of many members of my family, I have heard your words during many-a-holiday. And sometimes not when Mrs. Optimous goes on a tear. I don't think it boils down to cowardice, what it's all about is faith. I have none. Do I think the USA is the greatest country to live in? Yes. Do I think we have inherent problems that stem (in part) from a new aristocracy we created? I do. I also believe that the aristocracy will do anything and I do mean anything at the expense of others to maintain that power. No, I don't buy into any of the bullshit that says 9/11 was specifically orchestrated, but I believe whole heatedly that the chatter and warning sides were ignored.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Also, OMAC is drawn by the ghost of Jack Kirby

    by BlaGyver

    anybody else flip through that? holy shit.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by BlaGyver

    It definitely reads better in trade form. I've missed a lot in the single issues so I reread them frequently. It's worth the investment though, plus the first trade is 10 bucks for six and a half (first is double-sized) issues. Think the second is running for 12

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:37 a.m. CST

    They gave Hawk and Dove to Liefeld?

    by NightArrows

    That hack is STILL getting work? I flipped through it at the store and man, what fucking terrible art.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 8 a.m. CST

    Liefeld's a nut job...

    by scrote abou an over-inflated ego...jeeez...

  • I guess your part of the world didn't bother with news reports about the **incredibly fucking massive** oil and gas deals that were struck in the Kurdish-controlled region of northern Iraq after the invasion.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Not so much an aristocracy as...

    by Shit_Skribbler

    ...the military/industrial complex that Eisenhower warned of and that is epitomized by Cheney/Halliburton. Here's Eisenhower's speech:

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Action #1

    by Joenathan

    I really liked the weak Superman getting stronger every day. The train crash was weird, but I like where it's going. I'm going to keep with it. As for Bat-wing... Judd Winnick... nuff said.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Thanks Shit - Great Read

    by optimous_douche

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Eisenhower was the last real republican to hold the office

    by spidercoz

    It's really sad how we've pretty much done the exact opposite of everything he said in that speech.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    You bought Bat-Wing?

    by Laserhead

    The hell, man? Want to buy some Florida 'real estate'?

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Swamp Thing

    by Laserhead

    Was pretty great. As was Animal Man. Yanick Paquette's Superman was so good, that for a second the body-armor costume didn't look quite so retarded. Only for a second, though. Once your eyes adjusted, it was still horrible.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Animal Man Rocked

    by optimous_douche

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    It sucks that Rick Veitch is a truther

    by rev_skarekroe

    But that doesn't change how epic Rare Bit Fiends was. One of the most original comics ever published.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Did you even give BatWing a chance? It was good.

    by Poptard_JD

    I think after Action, Animal Man was my second fave of the week so far, 3rd is Swamp Thing, believe it or not! I never thought I'd enjoy either of these books but they were pretty great.. but I still haven't read Authority or ahem...Hawk and Dove..

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    i agree about veitch being a truther

    by fred

    his swamp thing run was amazing, but truthers are idiots, plain and simple.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    I think most truthers are just nuts...

    by Prof

    ...who need something to hate on and that's their intellectual target. But there's a good contingent of them that are otherwise rational in every other way but their life experiences have hardened them cynically towards those in political power to the point that they cannot afford them any humanity or grace. Those are the people I have some empathy for the prism through which they see all world-impacting events. But ultimately they fall right into the same personality types who still think the moon landing was faked, FEMA is building concentration camps, the FBI assassinated Kennedy, etc. I actually believe this distorted, but intellectually stimulating, type of delusional mindset may be a form of schizophrenic manifestation.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    OMG The Authority is Back?

    by optimous_douche

    ;-p Stormwatch doing-dong If I could figure out the official symbol for ass-kiss facey slap slap I would use it now.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST


    by Poptard_JD

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  • Sept. 8, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST



    not...bite...on...9/11....truthers...comments...just....let it go kletus...

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    of course Veidt's nuts

    by Hedgehog000

    Read Brat Pack or Maximortal. Make's the Boys look like Miss Manners.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST


    by Hedgehog000

    The Byrne/Wolfman reboot Superman was also clearly less powerful. In fact, he got beat by the Royal Flush gang - how embarrassing is that now? And when he met up with the pocket universe Superboy/General Zod, he was clearly less powerful than they. Of course he eventually started to power up. I'm not sure he ever got quite as ridiculously powerful as pre-Crisis Supes, he eventually became pretty close.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 2:43 p.m. CST

    of course Veidt's nuts

    by Hedgehog000

    Read brat pack or the Maximortal. Make's the Boys look like Miss Manners.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Mystery hooded figure throughout the 52 titles...

    by Snookeroo

    appears on the train with Lois and Jimmy in Action #1.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Mystery Woman =


    Donna Troy

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST

    I'll honestly be surprised if it's Donna Troy...

    by Prof

    ...because one of the primary reasons behind some of the decisions made for the relaunch was to get rid of her and Wally West, among others. To make her the pivotal point of Flashpoint and the relaunch just muddies it all right back up with past continuity confusion underlying everything that's supposed be "new" and "Fresh".

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST



    well they've kind of already done that by allowing some continuity to stand while others didn't... it was just something me and some people in the shop were discussing but i doubt its going to ruin anything if Donna Troy is still alive...did you read the last JLA issue...veeeery curious. also isn't Donna Troy is supposed to be this anomaly that shouldn't have made it through all the criseses? I know i could be wrong just guessin' could also be Harbinger from the original crisis...

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4 p.m. CST

    I think she's more likely to be...

    by Prof

    ...that gal from the last few issues of BOOSTER GOLD. The one who was supposed to be in JLI and got last-minute replaced by Lady Godiva. The last 3 months or so have been like a flash mob of deaf, dumb, and blind kids at DC Headquarters in terms of the flow of ever-changing and conflicting information and images that came pouring out after BleedingCool first broke the story. I'm inclined to believe that Didio, et al, decided after Jurgens already started work on JLI that they needed to plant some type of maguffin into the mix of the Relaunch as a "just in case" plot point and chose to redo that character as a mysterious hooded woman that they could insert into the books after the fact pretty easily and set up a new crossover event that may, or may not, reset things if ncessary. But I could be totally offbase too. :) >(o)<

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST



    like i said just a guess but for all those reasons you listed they could do it because its kind of unexpected and i really doubt we've seen the last of her, def could be the booster gold lady though... }>(o)<{ not sure what that is...

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    well duh...


    i was referring to my modified nipple pinch.... but you made a :)>(o)< which was also interesting... p.s. i'm bored at work.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST



  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    let's hear it for bored at work!

    by spidercoz


  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    did you guys read this?

    by Poptard_JD

    dude is boycotting ACTION #1 because Superman says "gd" at one point, which the retailer thinks means GOD DAMN. i let him know that: Superman is an ALIEN. Why would he be a christian? Also: "Rao was a powerful cosmic deity who was the embodiment of the sun of the Rao system where the world of Krypton existed. His position made him the supreme deity within the Kryptonians pantheon where he was attributed as a creator deity." So even if he was saying "gd", it's ok, he wasn't talking about YOUR "g".

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    what a useless ass

    by Joenathan

    God forbid an idiot christian take up a real cause or one that actually helps people.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    it'd be hilarious if

    by spidercoz

    Morrison took Superman in an actual Nietzschean "super-man" direction. Be kind of awesome too. This dumbass in NC would prally shit himself in a righteous fury. But I'm talking to myself now...

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Is Enlongated Man alive in the new 52?

    by fred

  • The only thing I question about all of this is, was a reboot even necessary? I guess it's more dramatic that way and a selling point and leads from Flashpoint, but still. They coulda revamped without renumbering. But, whatevs. The reboot has been way better than I was expecing, so, I'm pleased with the new status quo. Digging it.

  • Sept. 13, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Action #1

    by TDavis

    Just curious, now that Lil' Abner has taken over for Supes, when do we get to see Daisy Mae? I guess Ma and Pa won't take too much tweaking.