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See Zombies Attack On A WORLD WAR Z Set Video!

Nordling here.

Thanks to FilmDrunk for this minute-long view of a zombie attack on WORLD WAR Z.  Obviously this is missing post-production effects and camerawork, as this was shot from the set, but it will become apparent to anyone who sees this that the zombies in this video act very differently from the zombies in Max Brooks' book.  There's a lot of running, and the zombie transmission appears to take a matter of seconds instead of days.  The zombies in WORLD WAR Z the novel are very traditional Romero zombies, and if this video is any indication, we won't be getting that in this film:

The video does showcase the scale of the film, but I'm still not sure.  If this fast transmission is going to be a part of this I don't know what this will mean for the Battle of Yonkers, if it's going to be in the movie.  Part of the scary nature of that was the slow build of tension as the soldiers realized that the zombies would never stop coming.  If the transmission works this fast, i think we could be in for a very different take on the material than we expected, and we already expected some changes due to the officially-released synopsis a couple of weeks back.

Nordling, out.

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  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Rage does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Looks like the Rage virus stuff from Danny Boyle, rather than Romero. Either that or grey hoodie guy is just a spastic.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Why aren't they following the book???

    by Mr Soze

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Why is this PG-13???

    by Mr Soze

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Why isn't this a 12 part HBO mini-series???

    by Mr Soze

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Mr Pitt what are you doing???

    by Mr Soze

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Is that Harry at 30seconds in? Blue shirt

    by Wookie_Weed

    sure runs like him.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    lucky it's a blue shirt, and not a red shirt

    by Wookie_Weed

    ...

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    by Danny Keith

    And suddenly I'm losing interest in this movie...

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:12 a.m. CST

    books are books

    by mynamesdan

    films are not books

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    COMPLETELY UNBIASED OPINION:

    by Fawst

    As a zombie piece taken at face value, that scene is awesome. The work that victim did was unlike many other zombie performances I've seen, and it looked slick. I'd be happy to see that film. If it wasn't called "World War Z." Because that is not fucking "World War Z."

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Never ask 'Why don't they follow the book?'

    by impossibledreamers

    Because a room full of suits and ties believe they are smarter than the author. Otherwise, what the Hell was that?!?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    This film will be a steaming pile of shit!

    by Jeffrey

    The more I see/read, the more I want to avoid it. What a shame, a brillaint piece of source material and they just piss the bed.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Zombie B-Boy?

    by justmyluck

    It looked like he was inspired by Michael Jackson in THRILLER.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Mommy...

    by UltimaRex

    What's that man doing to that car?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    This Book Has Ideas. Fuck that.

    by Aquatarkusman

    Let's do a tepid remake of 28 Days Later. But make it PG-13.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:37 a.m. CST

    I dont really mind

    by truenotes1

    But if they change the way the zombies move, they should change the name as well.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Probably a camera in the back seat of the van

    by Autodidact

    Carseat POV.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    They Don't Follow the Book

    by Autodidact

    Because all those suits need to justify their existence.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:44 a.m. CST

    The guy who turns into a zombie does a great job.

    by STLost

    If it was for a movie that wasn't WORLD WAR Z. They won't follow the book because: 1) that would be too logical. b) it's probably cheaper to make a hack version of the book, and use the name for generating word of mouth and buzz, and getting butts in the seats. It's all about butts in the seats nowadays.

  • I know the book came out before 28 DAYS LATER was filmed,but really.But I guess you could say that 28 DAYS LATER ripped WWZ off.No matter,the studio will SUCKER me to see this anyway.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Those are some clean-ass looking zombies..

    by Phil Grieves

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    I love a good running GHOUL movie

    by MooseMalloy

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Stupid zombie, you can't eat a car!

    by buggerbugger

    Ah, my mistake; they're not eaters, they're biters. These zombies just bite you a couple of times and then run away.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    WORLD WAR Z... (In Name Only)

    by Graphix67

    Honestly, at this point, this is looking soooooo bastardized from it's original source material I wonder why they just didn't give it a new title and make it as a totally unrelated zombie film.... *SIGH*....

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I wonder...

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    ..why I found that so funny?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST

    28 Days Later...

    by NightArrows

    Didn't rip off World War Z, it was more aligned with Day of the Triffids.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    We knew this was going to be SHITE already.

    by V'Shael

    i think we could be in for a very different take on the material than we expected,

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    We knew this was going to be SHITE already.

    by V'Shael

    i think we could be in for a very different take on the material than we expected, Gee, you think? They've already shown they have ZERO understanding of what made the book so good. Now it's just being processed into a standard post-28 days zombie movie. This will suck donkey balls. Try not to treat the next revelation that they're fucking it up even more, as if it's news or a surprise.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    lol @ pg-13 zombie flick.

    by iampain

    umm... well they run pretty good.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Slow Zombies

    by themanwithaname

    Slow zombies are about as scary and dangerous as a hoard of drunk babies. Seriously, if you're that fearful of slow moving cannibalistic morons you couldn't survive in a red state like I do.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Slow Zombies

    by Andrew Millington

    It's not the speed that's scary, It's the fact that they horde and have no lack of endurance. Have you read the book or the survival guide?

  • this will be shit probably. I'm surprised tho, as pitt is usually very passionate about the things he works on. don't know why he'd choose to do the book if only to change the most important parts of it. with every story that comes out i get considerably less excited to see this. ill just read the book when i finish game of thrones and enjoy that. even though it will only make me hate this movie even more when i see it

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Sad face

    by Captain Moscow

    He spends pages and pages and pages describing exactly how a zombie works and operates in The Zombie Survival Guide. It clearly and specifically explains how they move and transform into zombies. How can you ignore that. Now every time I recommend World War Z to someone to read they'll assume it matches the movie. I mean I'm sure the movie will be at least passable as a stand-alone work, but please stop ruining the source material.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:40 a.m. CST

    "

    by D.Vader

  • Suits - "Survival of the Dead definitely NOT a success. What does this tell us? FAST ZOMBIES make money." Assistant - "What about the slow zombies of The Walking Dead on tv?" Suits - "Fuck you, you're fired."

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Hey fools- World War Z came out in 2006, 28 Days Later in 2002

    by D.Vader

    Who ripped off who, again?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    And if you meant 28 Weeks Later...

    by D.Vader

    That started production a week or two before WWZ was released.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:49 a.m. CST

    FUCK THEY HAVE BASTARDIZED THIS

    by Rob

    IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE JUST SLAPPING THE NAME OF THE BOOK ON A MOVIE THAT REALLY IS NOTHING LIKE THE SOURCE MATERIAL. FUCK YOU BRAD PITT.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    I hope Max Brooks got a pile of money.

    by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI

    Yet, I don't know why he would've. Because this looks nothing like what he created in WWZ.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Thank God!

    by ThurstonOne

    More zombie fiction. Very fresh. Thanks Hollywood.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:18 a.m. CST

    by Gulley

    It's kind of pathetic how much I'm looking forward to the inevitable remake. I really hope HBO picks this up and makes big a budget miniseries that is true to the book.I loved World War Z and have no desire to see this movie.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    When are we going to get a zombie's driving a car?

    by Andrew Coleman

    Zombies that could drive is scary as shit.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    looks very good however these were NOT zombies

    by corplhicks

    the guy in hoodie did a GREAT job-- amazing acting in fact, getting infected, transforming, etc.. obviously the idea is that if you are infected, you turn almost immediately. I think the only zombies in this were the grey hoodie guy and the zombie that bit him-- I think everyone else is running for their lives from zombies. Have a closer look-- if they were zombies they would have pounced on him right away, none did-- in fact the girl who sees him get bitten withdraws against the vehicle then goes away. My guess is that these were not zombies but the 2 above. Can't wait for this !

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    It isn't easy to take them down...and

    by corplhicks

    they swarm, basically need a head shot, don't get tired and have to stop, etc... you need to kill them at distance and getting the world on board to do the right thing is not easy, and immediately retraining troops isnt' either, especially when they are getting more and more numerous and turning up everywhere. Try watching what would happen with a very serious viral contagion that is easily spread.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Will fast zombies mean that the movie will be over sooner?

    by DipshitKnight

    One can only hope...

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:34 a.m. CST

    They ought to team up with AMC and do a walking dead crossover.

    by DipshitKnight

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:36 a.m. CST

    There's a sale at Penney's!!!

    by tomandshell

    Everybody run!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Angry Sex

    by grassh0pperunit

    Why are they including a scene of a guy having angry sex with his car? johnny-flores.blogspot.com

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    fucking booooooooooooooooooooooooo

    by spidercoz

    fast zombies, kiss my ass so it's just 28 days later/the crazies, fuck off silly me, I was hoping for something fresh

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I want movie NEWS, not bootleg shots of movies being filmed

    by jimmy_009

    This site's on it's last legs. I miss the days when they were actually breaking stories instead of running crap like this.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    i think you guys are getting confused

    by JAMF

    there have always been accusations that TWD ripped off 28 Days, not that WWZ ripped it off. although they both rip off Triffids as was mentioned earlier so thats probably why the accusations started. why you're mentioning WWZ and 28D in that context is beyond me -- other than the fact that the new *film version* of WWZ seems to be ripping off 28D with the fast zombies of course. the book is nothing like that.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    fuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkk wwwhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy

    by paul burnett

    What is the fuckin point? Why even call it wwz? It's only pissin of fans of the book.... and for people who haven't read it, wwz doesn't register anyway, it's not some fuckin brand name that people have an affinty with. Get on the fuckin phone with Bradley AICN an get some facts bout this, cos folk are gettin really cheesed off with these rumours and pix. This isn't wwz this is resident evil with money...

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Wasn't the transmission fast in the book too?

    by Bass Ackwards

    I may be mis-remembering, but I thought, specifically in the Battle of Yonkers, there were soldiers who were killed and then came back to "life" during the battle as zombies. Its been awhile since I've read the book though I may have that wrong.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Those aren't zombies, those are infected (rage)

    by Have_Penis_Will_Travel

    this contagion would have never spread world wide the long incubation period allowed refugees to spread it by plane and ship it also allowed people to hoard their dead which was a contributing factor to the battle of yonkers no, this is not WWZ yeah, this is going to be more resident evil than WWZ the action hero running down a hall Guns Akimbo a horde of infected (they're not zombies in this movie imho) right behind him he shoots the control to one of those fire doors that drop from the ceiling drops to his knees leans all the way back until his shoulders are just brushing the floor and slides under the descending door with millimeters to spare all while firing back into the infected and never missing a shot yeah, it's that kind of movie but it's not WWZ

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    They turn to Zombies in seconds because...

    by riskebiz

    ...it's a two hour movie. The studio suits probably didn't read the book and therefore couldn't believe that the world "could" be taken over by Romero-esque zombies. Hence, if you get bitten, you change immediately and therefore the world wide pandemic would happen faster (and more realistically) in their little pea-brained studio mentality. I agree...this movie is WORLD WAR Z in name only. What a waste.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Too fast transmission and transformation into zombie...

    by tritium

    I don't remember everything in the book, but I do remember a sign where an army colonel (or captain) gets infected by either a bite or contaminted by blood/gore/mist...and he has the time to think about it and decide to take his own life with his service weapon. Does anyone else remember a scene in the book with something like that ocurring, or am I imagining things?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I've recomended..

    by paul burnett

    ..the book to family and friends, some read it and some didn't. I'm gonna look a right cunt to the ones that didn't when this comes out..aawwwwww

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    @stlost

    by vicmackey1268

    no one commented on your comment so I will I was really impressed by that guy flailing around and then popping up like that...he was friggin awesome Sometimes you do things that actually make urself proud and you wish someone would've seen it and been wowed...that was a case where I hope the guy eventually finds out that people are talking about his kick ass transformation.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    no the book transformation was not fast

    by annie_michael_hall

    The book was a complete departure from 28 Days Later and anyone who says one ripped the other off or the other way around is sadly mistaken. The book emphasized the mob mentality of the zombies, how it took days for the transformation to take place sometimes (especially if you were not killed from the attack - which most were not), and how people really had no idea who was and who was not a zombie - and how that made it problematic for armies to fight them. This does not look like it will be emphasizing those points. It looks good, but like so many tb'ers have said before, WHY THE HELL CALL THIS WORLD WAR Z?!?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    i remember bloated zombie bellys..

    by paul burnett

    ..cos they just cant stop eating and eventually bursting!! Zombies walkin out the sea after bumbling around at the bottom of the ocean after being thrown of ships. Creeped me right out..

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    tritium

    by annie_michael_hall

    Its actually the army bomber who gets infected when attacked by parachuting into a zack infestation. The transformation happens fairly quickly when you die, the problem is that the book emphasizes that it takes a while for some people. In this case the other surviving parachuter killed the zombies but forgot to kill him and had to go back and kill him before he re-animated. Don't know if you were thinking about that one or not but it was one of my favorite stories.

  • Although, it was a few years ago that I read the WW Z, and I may even be mistaking this specific scene with some other book entirely. But I definitely remember the soldier getting contaminated/exposed, realizing what had happened, and deciding to take his own life. Again, I maybe confusing this with some other zombie book.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    ADDITIONAL INFO HERE!

    by Ray Gamma

    Today in East Lothian in Scotland, I spotted a yellow and black helicopter sitting hovering in the sky for ages in one position. I took a lot of photos of it, and myself and my wife watched it for a while, trying to figure out what it was doing. This was unusual in the area, because it's mostly a very rural area with no air traffic at all. I guessed it was doing some filming because it appeared to have a camera mounted on the front. Anyway, later tonight I was checking the "World War Z" set videos that have been posted up on YouTube, and lo and behold, here is the same exact chopper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0rK986-OLs&feature=related It's definitely the same chopper because I have about 30 digital shots of it I took myself about 2 hours ago. Now, that YouTube video was shot in Glasgow a week ago, but this same chopper is now filming aerial shots over East Lothian, (or being filmed?). East Lothian is a very flat rural landscape beside the coast, mostly farmland/fields. So I'm guessing this may be for wide digital effects shots of the landscape or something.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    RE:tritium

    by The_Mad_Groper

    You got it right. There was a part where the commander of a squad or batallion was shot in the arm but as the bullet had passed thru a zombie first he was infected. The infection takes around 24 hrs (give or take) but once infected there is no cure. So the commander kills himself and the person who is telling the tale takes command.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    tritium

    by darksith

    the_mad_groper beat me to it, but he is correct...I believe it happened with the Russian troops, but I'm probably mistaken there.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    This is going to Suck.

    by IamGreedo'sGhost

    I can NOT believe Max Brooks has sold out soooooooo badly and allowed the studios to do this to his book. I may watch this when it's on HBO, but definitely not going to pay extra for it.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    RE:darksith

    by The_Mad_Groper

    I wasn't 100% sure which one it was but I was leaning more towards the German troops. He gets put in command and doesnt want to follow orders because they would be leaving civilians behind and he gets forced to so all he wants to do from that point is survive so he can shoot his commanding officer in the head but the bastard (commander) blows his own head off before the "hero" can get to him. If I remember correctly.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    WHAT A STUPID FRIGGIN DECISION.

    by uberman

    Congrads, stupid ass who changed the zombies into sprinters and made this another 'Rage' movie. You just shat in the face of your target audience and thus have cut your box office take in 1/2. I'll catch it on cable in a few years.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    the_mad_groper

    by darksith

    Yeah, I believe you're right.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Are they going to add digital gore effects in post?

    by BenBraddock

    Cos that was one bloodless affair... Great infection transformation by hoodie guy though!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    FAST ZOMBIES >>>>> boring, slow, unscary SLOW ZOMBIES

    by ShiftyEyedDog

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    First.

    by AzarN

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    And... that looks odd

    by AzarN

    Since that's totally spy footage and not at all the actual coverage, it feels a bit goofy, but I'm sure it'll come together in the edit.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    It's official, FAST zombies! I'm out. Will never see this!

    by WillKeane

    This is really upsetting. I love the book and it looks like they have completely destroyed the film version. Fast Zombies! Instant transmission! Fuck this, I will never see this! Ever!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Use your braaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnsss!

    by Zardoz

    They changed the story because of the structure of the book: it's set 5 years after the zombie outbreak and the reporter is interviewing the survivors. The SURVIVORS! That means there's ZERO dramatic tension because you already know who lives or dies. I love the book, but I think it's a good change for the movie. And I love Romero's "Dead" series, but I'm a big fan of fast zombies. Slow zombies would never catch me! I'll reserve judgement on the film until AFTER it's finished, thank you very much!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Fuck fast zombies

    by paul burnett

    Cheap scares, one or two fast zombies racing around chasing the hero. 2000 slow zombies shambling down the motorway,times square or a suburban street..now thats gonna shit you up!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    that "zombie" loses a quarter

    by Gleep_Glop

    then picks it up after they yell cut. Must be working for scale.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Fast VS Slow zombies

    by Ray Gamma

    You ADHD action fans who love fast zombies, let's get this straight: The whole point of slow zombies is, they are horrifying because they are lumbering slowly EN MASSE. That means the drama comes from survivors who ought to be able to outrun these dopey slow fuckers, but the important factor in this genre is the sheer numbers in any zombie outbreak. Fast zombies are no different from berzerker warriors or angry soldiers going apeshit. It's a different style and genre altogether. Slow zombies are scarey precisely because they ought not to be a threat, but like The Blob, or some Grey Goo type of threat, they are slow, insidious and eventually overwhelming. The whole zombie genre was founded on the notion that a zombie plague would slowly engulf the earth in a creeping, lumbering, engulfing kind of way. Not a "running around violently roaring like a lion" kind of way, which is what is so fucking silly about recent "fast zombie" movies. Also, it stands to reason that a stinking corpse, with rigor mortis setting in, would walk like a sloth.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    I hate running zombies

    by Volllllume3

    I fucking hate them. They don't make fucking sense, even within the concept of reanimated dead. And walking zombies aren't scary? Well no shit dipshits, that's the fucking point. You can outrun them once, but you'll have to stop at some point. They don't. They keep on coming.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    alright, I'm calling a moratorium...

    by spidercoz

    "fast" zombies are no longer to be referred to as zombies a new term shall be invented and approved by committee I propose "zerkies" any seconds? other ideas?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    spidercoz

    by darksith

    I think "infected" is fine as well lol

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    lol zerkies

    by Ray Gamma

    zerkies it is.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Here's a few ideas why the movie might actually work

    by WillTheThrill

    Why is everyone assuming the zombie virus transmission takes seconds and that this change ruins the movie, somehow? Maybe being KILLED by a zombie makes you come back right away. But maybe if you are just BITTEN, it takes hours or days for the infection to kill you... just like in the book. Love how everyone in the world these days is ready to give up on a movie and assume it's a POS just because of one blurry set photo or some spy video. Same thing happened when the first few photos of the new Superman costume came out from the set of "Man of Steel". Give these movies a chance, at least until the damn thing is IN THEATERS and getting some reviews. Sheeeeeeeeeeesh, people!!! P.S. If I had to guess, I'd say some of the gore, etc. will be added in post-production... though obviously not too much since it's slated to be a PG-13 release.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    willthethrill

    by shodan6672

    Devil's advocate guy: people are expecting this to be terrible because from the footage released, the changes to the plot, and the rating that the film will have all point to this film having NOTHING to do with the amazing novel of the same name. Why don't they just call it The Lawnmower Men Z?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    If there were 2000 zombies outside right now...

    by Ice Paul

    ...I'd prefer them to be slow zombies, I think everyone would. The thing about there being hordes of them can work for fast zombies as well, a massive horde of fast zombies running at you. To me that's obviously more scary than the slow ones, which if you had some sort of submachine gun, you could pick off loads of slowies before they got to you. Not so much with the fast zombies. I can see why people like their zombies slow though, it's the traditional walking dead style zombie and has more of that undead feel to them.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    @iamgreedo'sghost

    by Joe Damiani

    iamgreedo'sghost: I'm not an expert, so I could be wrong in this account. But once an author sells the movie right's to his book they lose creative control over the story and character, unless it's stated in the contract that the aurhor has a say in what happens. But, I think that's a very rare case. So calling Brooks a sell-out, is quite possibly, unwarranted.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Fast vs Slow Zombie Preference = Media Bimbo Litmus Detector

    by Autodidact

    Here's the thing: Many "zombie movie fans" are not in fact fans of zombies as a monster. They're better described as fans of morbid end-of-life-as-we-know-it fiction. This is why The Walking Dead is so good... the back flap on every trade talks about a world with no TV, no jobs or schools, etc. the end of life as we know it. "Real" zombies move slow because dumb, slow mobs of zombies are like a force of nature to be avoided and outwitted. It sets up a man vs man story. Fast zombies are literally a whole other genre unless done right (focus on the world not the creature). They're man vs nature. Fast zombies are for people who find slow zombies boring. I.e. wrestling fans, people who "wait for the movie" version of a classic book, etc.. people who don't like to work for things.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    willthethrill

    by darksith

    Well I don't know about you, but that guy looked like he got munched on for a sec and then he turned (not even finishing his meal...rude zerkie)

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Man I'm unclear and overstated

    by Autodidact

    Reading back my last message, my points are all disconnected. I just woke up and my head is still fuzzy. First there are no hard rules of course... zombies can be fast in your story if it suits you. I'm just saying that zombies as slow moving, predictable force of nature makes for a longer lasting and more stable fictional setting and thus you have room for meaningful interaction amongst the living characters. This is all possible with fast zombies, who are also a force of nature, it's just sort of like the difference between a hurricane outside your house, and a tornado hitting your house. You can make any genre of movie with a hurricane outside the house. With a tornado ripping the house apart, you can only make Twister.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    WHY!??? (money) ALL of these great Novels and Comics are Damned.

    by future help

    World War Z. or Avatar: the Last Air Bender. The new Thing movie (same damn name shit too). Transformers 3 (it will be better Promise, HA!) From Godzilla to Aliens3 and up... and that shit Terminator 4. To the Halloween remakes. To Vader and the large NO.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    From someone that hasn't read the book...

    by bcom77

    I kinda like the quick transformation idea and the actor did a good job of pulling it off, it could add a bit more tension knowing that the people you know and love aren't going to gradually turn but BAM! you're bit, have a fit then you're a brainless zombie in seconds! No time to question or adjust to what's just happened. I haven't read the book (I've been wanting to for years and have just now decided to download it from ibooks) so can't comment on how this differs from the source material. It does sound like the book's fans aren't happy with what they've seen/read so far but Brad Pitt usually has a very high hit rate with the quality of fims he's in (apart from that crap "The Mexican") I wouldn't have picked him to want to star in a zombie film unless it was any good.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Rapid transformation blows half the book's observations.

    by FluffyUnbound

    World War Z was fun because Brooks had attempted to seriously contemplate the political and social effects of a slow-transformation zombie epidemic. Nothing about the Israel blockade makes any sense if it's a fast transmission situation. Nothing about the Chinese smugglers spreading the infection over half of Asia makes any sense if it's a fast transmission situation. In fact, it's safe to say that Brooks' scenario can't happen at all in a fast transmission situation. You NEED people to be able to get bitten and then get in a car or on an airplane to get a worldwide infection. Fast transmission means that China goes up in flames while the world watches, but the disease never gets to Africa or Europe or the Americas.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    girls, put down your tampons. please

    by corplhicks

    read my posts above. Those are NOT zombies, at least in my opinion, they are people running from them-- have a read and you will see why. There are two zombies in that clip. One obvious, the one who attacks followed by the one who turns. And yes, acute inoculations can cause behavioral brain chemistry changes. and frankly, who gives a shit if it isn't EXACTLY like the book, it will be close, like all screenplays, you cannot do exactly what the books says all the time, because books aren't written usually for movies, but as books. Second, slow, fast, walking, lumbering, running zombies, who gives a FUCK, it's a movie, get over it ! Zombies don't exist so however this director/writer want to present it, just let's hope it looks good, but there's no zombie canon, none. grow up. it's a movie.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Obese Wan Kenobi

    by FluffyUnbound

    You're absolutely right. Brooks got paid whatever he got paid for a title. It's like buying the rights to WATERSHIP DOWN and then making a movie about talking chihuahuas that have adventures in Mexico. What the eff did you buy the rights for, guys? GENERIC ZOMBIE MOVIE was pretty much already in the public domain.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST

    @corplhicks

    by Captain Moscow

    Did you read the book? I find it extremely hard to believe you'd be saying that if you have. The book is the one piece of zombie fiction that does in fact deserve to be canon (I count WWZ and the survival guide to be one piece meant to build off each other).

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

    by Wacky Packages

    RUNNING ZOMBIES ARE NOT CREEPY!!!!!!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    captain_moscow

    by corplhicks

    yes I did read the book and enjoyed it immensely. Practicality, timeline, and other issues prevent certain things from going from book to screen, not to mention the vision of the filmmaker. Maybe slow moving zombies are better in print, and yes an endless of 800,000 slow movies zombies, hard to shoot dead slowly moving on your position, is scary stuff, it is also scary to have hundreds of them running right at you desperate to bite you to pieces. And frankly, both things work, even if I like the 800,000 zombie idea. There's no canon when so many films and movies have done this so much, and especially since it's all fiction anyway. if they want to be from outer space, arriving on star destroyers, highly intelligent telepaths, who simply want to eat human brain, but otherwise are highly evolved creatures, that is the filmmakers right. I'd like it to be perfect too, but that almost never happens.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    oh and again, ....(spoiler alert)

    by corplhicks

    These are not zombies, in my opinion, but regular people minus 1 or 2 of them. The guy who turns after being bit on his arm was amazing in my opinion in his movements and acting. I really hope this movie is rated R and they do not hold back in terms of head shots or those improvised scimitar like tools to wack 'em in the head with. There's so many great images to work with even if doesn't match the book totally. Certainly the battle of yonkers will be such a looked-forward to scene that it hopefully will really sink home well. M16's generally fire 3 round bursts, maybe someone will comment on how they wish it was fully automatic all the time :-) FYI I went to a firing range 2 weeks ago in Pennsylvania and my instructor said that a lot of casual shooters who come there want to be at least able to hit targets reasonably because they actually think some kind of virus/plague etc.. will occur and people will be Rage/Zombie like in some form or another. yes, I'm SERIOUS ! that's what he told me. Weird, huh?

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Max Brooks

    by Robert Michael

    The reason why people are so upset over seeing fast moving zombies in this spycam footage is because it COMPLETELY changes most of the scenes from the book. As stated above, the slow gestation of the infection is what lets infected people spread out across the world. It makes it possible to be bitten in Hong Kong and be in New York before your preferred diet changes from Big Macs to humans. It also makes it possible for you to go somewhere and hide before your fellow humans discover you're infected and kill you. Then when you change you're just another walking eating machine looking for another meal that happens to be hidden from your fellow humans (and are thusly vastly more dangerous than a zombie simply wandering down the road). @Zardoz: you stated that, since the book is based on interviews with the survivors, there is zero tension in the book because you know they survive. Knowing this did not affect my enjoyment of the book in the slightest way. It was even more horrifying in the book to realize what some of these people had to do in order to survive. I particularly liked the woman who is interviewed up north who talks about how the camp they were in slowly changed, and how zombies weren't the only ones with humans on their menu. Personally, I think the structure of the book works well for a movie. A simple formula: Journalist introduces his project to document the War and then we go to various interviews that drop to flashbacks of the horrible things that the interviewees witnessed (I dream of the day I can see the South African Plan on screen). I understand why Hollywood types (read: barely functioning retards) might hate this idea because there's a) no central macho hero involved in all of those flashbacks, b) no hot girl in her zombie killing bikini outfit and c) no slow motion backflipping whilst shooting two guns with 100% accuracy. The reason the book worked so well is because the various Governments responses were realistic. China closes it's borders and the world doesn't know wtf is happening in there? Check. The US Government lies to it's own people for so long that it's an epidemic before people realize there's any danger beyond a flu that's easily treatable? Check. The South African Plan (nerdgasm). Check. I'll fall short of saying that Max Brooks "sold out". Who knows what he was promised. Maybe the poor decisions we're starting to hear about happened well after his book's film rights were sold. It'd be interesting to see what he has to say about the current direction the film seems to be taking. Maybe he rolls around in his Hollywood money-pile thrice daily while giggling and truly doesn't give a fuck? Or maybe he's just as worried as many of us are. Any chance AICN could get a quote, Merrick? For anyone reading this that has not read Max Brooks World War Z you need to log off and go read it now. No one who is a fan of zombie movies (be they slow or fast) should watch another movie without reading Max's opus. It is seriously that good. And that is why, fellow talkbackers, I'm currently logging the film adaptation under "Possible Travesty", though I'll wait to hear / see more before it's permanently filed.

  • This video may be worse of all. Although I like how epic the scale is, nothing else fits. As my esteemed colleagues above have repeatedly noted, the fact that these "zombies" are fast, the virus takes hold rather quickly, and that the "zombies" attack WITHOUT producing a hell of a lot of blood does nothing but spit in the face of Max Brooks and his magnificent book. Thank you, Hollywood. You've done it again.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Odd

    by Majereuk

    The more I look at this footage, the stranger it seems. I agree that most of the people in it are clearly not meant to be zombies, but at least two seem to be- the girl who starts in front of the victim's car, and the guy who comes in from the right about 10 seconds in and jumps the victim. This is where it gets strange. We start with the girl zombie seemingly getting into the victim's can from the front (through the windscreen?) as he gets out the side door. Then he falls over for some reason (he slips?) At this point Zombie #2 arrives from the right, and the girl gets out of the car door and seems to shy away, before running off doing snarly bitey things to the air. Zombie #2 chews the vic's arm for a few secs, then gets up and runs off as well, not looking like he's chasing anyone. The victim's stunt work is awesome stuff, but exactly what the hell is going on here is hard to fathom out. Certainly doesn't look all that faithful to the source material, but I suspect the final cut will look very different to this.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Ya, i'm not the biggest fan about the PG-13 rating..

    by Evil_Homer45

    but let's, for one moment, forget that the internet ever existed and we don't constantly receive grainy cell-phone videos to judge as the final product of a work in progress. everyone is so cynical these days because they think the internet entitles them to it, but nobody puts the effort into actually earning that cynicism. learn something about how films are made and reserve your judgement until you get the final product. otherwise, you're just a stick in the mud that can talk a lot, but can't walk it.

  • ...so here is an unbiased review from what I saw here. Isn't this exactly like 28 days later? Zombies that look to be fueled by some kind of madness/rage, and are just looking to attack anything and everything in a hyper-induced, run-as-fast-as-you-can phase? I can see this video's scenes in the movie now...camera chopping around incessantly, very very very quick edits (we're talking half-second shots over and over and over), loud music and/or sound effects as the attack is happening...in other words the same "zombie attacks" one sees in all other zombie movies. Also just a side note, is it me or is this movie getting the MOST coverage of all other movies out there. I can't turn anywhere seeing some other website reporting about "World War Z" and what's being filmed here/there/everywhere. This film is seemingly getting more coverage than "The Dark Knight Returns" and "Man of Steel" and "Avengers" combined!

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    That bendy zom has probably played possessed too

    by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Hate how zombie movies have zombies bite once and then run off

    by GreatOne3

    Makes no sense - zombie would sit and eat its victim, not bite once and run after someone else. Extremely poor thinking whomever wrote that.<p>I would argue from the horror genre that the worst raping of a horror novel would be "Vampire$" by John Steakley, which was turned into the horrendous dreck known as "John Carpenter's Vampires". Awesome portrayal by James Woods, but everything else sucked donkey balls. Those who have read the book I'm sure will agree.

  • Sept. 7, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Judging from this clip...

    by quicksilver80

    The Battle of Hope will look like the siege in Starship Troopers

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    My heart just sank

    by JohnIan

    I was really excited to see this - they just pissed all over the source. We can only hope that they'll re-issue the book with additional interviews. Brooks did four other zombie shorts. Two of which are extensions of the novel; "Great Wall: A Story From The Zombie War" - how China used the Great Wall to keep the undead penned ("Dark Delicacies II" 2007, horror anthology) and "Closure LTD" - Max interviews the head of a company dedicated to finding closure for survivors of the zombie war ("The New Dead: A Zombie Anthology" 2010). The other tales are set in the ghoul universe. An online story, "The Extinction Parade" - a zombie short told from the perspective of a pair of vampires. "Steve And Fred" - a survivor ponders his existence in an undead world. What I would truly love is a SECOND book of WWZ. More stories from the near annihilation.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    It's Paul Verhoeven's Starship Zombies!

    by Coelacanth1938

    This thing is going to make Showgirls look like Black swan.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:48 a.m. CST

    It *is* Harry wearing a blue shirt at 30seconds!

    by Wookie_Weed

    sQuint, and you'll see an AICN writer.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:49 a.m. CST

    I prefer 28 Days

    by Wookie_Weed

    Sandra Bullock IS the zombie.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Zionist Racism?

    by Robert Michael

    If anything the book covers the zombie threat from almost every race on the planet. Not sure who told you that it was Zionist literature, but they're wrong.

  • and that you could just machine gun them down before they became a threat, etc.. they typify exactly the sort of military mindset that WWZ showed was inadequate against the zack threat. They have no understanding of the threat or the horror of a plague of zaks, so they would be overwhelmed quite easily, much to their own surprise.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    I thought it looked great

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    WWZ the book, which I love, is episodic and doesn't have a clear lead, except the Narrator. And he in the story is 10 years in the future just talking to people. You could just film every chapter from the book, but that wouldn't flow in a 1h30/2h film. So you need a protagonist to pull you through the story. Lets see whether some skilled writers, editors, and directors have managed to make a coherent story out of it. And cert R does not automatically mean scary. Just gory and sweary. Again, lets see the finished product and save your derission until then. I for one have high hopes for it. I have a few friends working on it, and you should read the Facebook news feeds. I CANNOT wait to see this. Proper big bucks zombie film! Its like crack for me. I'm sure they will have pushed the ratings envelope as far as they can. We. Shall. See.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Fast Zombies are okay, but not here.

    by AlexDK

    I don't really mind fast zombies, because you can't really expect for every zombie flick to follow the Romero rules. That would be stupid, and boring. They worked in Return of the Living Dead, in 28 Days/Weeks Later, and in the Dawn of the Dead Remake. On the other hand, putting fast zombies in WWZ is completely missing the point of the book. Shit, there was a funny moment involving misidentified "fast zombies" in the story with the Texan bodyguard.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:45 a.m. CST

    @ ray gamma "fast vs slow"

    by DeadAtRecess

    Rigor Mortis wouldn't be able to set in on a corpse that was walking as it needs time to let the blood pool...and the way to get rid of rigor mortis is to flex the joints. So a moving corpse means no blood pooling means no rigor mortis means faster zombies than the shambling hordes of the Romero films. BUT it's a work of fiction so if the author wanted slow zombies then the film should have slow zombies. Personally I like 'em both, but I'm never in favor of changing source material to the point where it changes the intent the author had in the first place when creating the story. The intent with WWZ was obviously to have slow shambling hordes taking over the world and then displaying the human reaction to it. I already have 28 Days Later and the new Dawn of the Dead, so I really didn't need the WWZ film to be the same as those. I'm still gonna see it though because at the end of the day I really can't get enough zombie fiction.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Not zombies.

    by The StarWolf

    Zombies, by definition (look it up), aren't fast. These are victims of some form of super-rabies. Just like those in that awful 28 DAYS LATER piece of crap. Honestly, infected which move that fast and a contagion which spreads that quickly? Call in a nuclear strike to sterilize the city before it has a chance to spread out in the countryside. Otherwise? The continent is screwed.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    AAAAAHHHH!!!!!!

    by Henry Fool

    Running zombies in one of my top ten all time favorite novels? I don't think so! I'm not saying this can't be a good film. But it should carry a different title than World War Z, which was about as much of a Romero homage as you can get. Max Brooks specifically thanks Romero in the book.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Oh for....

    by Lacloake

    .....fuck sake.....

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    I just give up

    by Captain Intenso

    I am so fucking jaded by everything that comes out of Hollywood now that this just makes me sad but not surprised in any way. I'll catch it on Blu Ray or at least wait for early reviews by zombie fans. If its a good zombie movie regardless of title, I'll go but I have to say I am SO bored of running zombies- the Bic Mac version of zombies, all instant gratification with no substance. The book is simply epic, from the Battle of Yonkers to the South African Plan to the invasion to retake the US- these would have been epic scenes on a scale we've never seen in this kind of film. Now its 28 Months Later. Pitt will probably get a sex scene just because. Fuck Pitt, fuck Hollywood. World War Z deserved better but really its style was only ever suited for a HBO mini-series lets be honest.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Can I just make a comment about Harry's Twilight Zone animation.

    by OBESE_WAN_KENOBI

    Where is the guys arm? If I remember correctly, Shatner had an entire arm... Not just a disembodied hand. Tell your animators to stop being so lazy.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Oh Jesus H. Christ...

    by Marshal_Lannes

    ...When you have excellent source material, why in the world do you fuck around with it to this degree? Arrogance and ego? See what HBO is doing with Game of Thrones on how to mesh excellent source material with neccesary changes due to film. They are shitting all over the one thing they will need to sell this film to a wider audience- word of mouth from the people who read and loved the book.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    yes, marshal...

    by spidercoz

    The people who make movies have enormous egos, overinflated senses of self-worth, and unjustifiable confidence in their own infallibility. The real problem is that the worst of the lot aren't artists of any type, they're marketers and accountants. That's how we end up with this shit.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    captain intenso

    by paul burnett

    big mac zombies is the best way i've heard to describe them! You're right "instant gratification and no substance"...nice

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    ACTING!!!

    by Atkinson

    Wow, I'm actually surprised that I was the first to say that.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Why is there no middle ground?

    by DiscreetFighterAlpha

    It's either slow lumbering shuffler with drag leg, or the full-on raging speedy berserker. What about a zombie that walks faster than normal... ... you know what? Forget it, there's been way too many movies about zombies anyway. I think the well has run dry. The producers of this movie only wanted to take Max Brooks' title for street cred, but never intended to use any of it for the source material. So, I think they've effectively killed the notion for seeing any kind of fresh take on the genre out of Hollywood. But enough is enough regardless.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    how fresh a take on "zombie apocalypse" can you get?

    by spidercoz

    We run, we die, we become the means of our own destruction. The end. The only real difference between zombie movies is the metaphor.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Starship Zombies

    by Ray Gamma

    Now, there's a title I could fall in love with. Could you just imagine what would happen in a movie called "Starship Zombies"?

  • Books have internal monologue that may read in rich prose on paper, but would bore most movie viewers. Books have character development that takes chapters to realize, chapters that can be fully appreciated in the span of two or three days, not 90 minutes to two hours. Books have minor characters and subplots that can't always be fleshed out (pardon the pun) in the alloted period of time. Movies are summaries of books, sometimes though summaries are 90% in alignment with the book, other times it's just the titles that share a commonality. You can chose not to see the movie, or read the book, or listen to it on tape. Either way don't feel too sorry for Max Brooks, I'm sure he was paid well.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Following the Book

    by Robert Michael

    I believe that there's nothing wrong with a few changes when adapting a book to a movie. As Atkinson said, there are minor characters and subplots that do not make the translation well to the screen. Internal monologue in many projects plays a huge part in a book but wouldn't translate well to a movie. The problem people seem to be having with this particular adaptation isn't that small details are being changed or left out; it's that the major story details seem to have been abandoned in favour of "let's copy 28 Days Later and Dawn of the Dead (Remake) because both are relatively recent successes". It's like watching a Hollywood bastardization of Winnie the Pooh where they change Pooh to a dog because some suit thinks he's more marketable that way. It just feels wrong. Even a project like the Lord of the Rings tried to be as faithfull as they could but the changes that had to be made when adapting it to the screen were bemoaned by fans everywhere. At least, in my opinion, they only changed relatively minor details from the book. And let's be honest, who really wanted to see some bearded dude high on ecstacy prancing through the woods singing songs for 20 minutes (Tom Bombadil). I for one think the film made the right choice in shelving that jackhole. If the current producers of World War Z were adapting LOTR they would change Samwise to a woman (so Frodo could keep the same love interest but in a less gay way), Gandalf would be younger and hipper so the Bieber crowd could relate, and Bieber would, of course, play Frodo. Just sayin' that's the current level of suck floating around the World War Z adaptation. It might be end up being a good movie, but it won't be World War Z.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST

    @Allthosepowers

    by Robert Michael

    Not sure why you're bringing up Zionist Racism all the time, but it's simply not in the book. Several countries close their borders, not just Israel. The idea that the whole book is Zionist Literature based on one chapter (where the Israelites do the same thing as several other countries) is just a weird way to think of it. Almost seems like you've got an agenda... In your first post you claimed that "a friend" told you it was Zionist so you wouldn't watch it. Now you're quoting the book as if you've read it. Which is it? Are you an informed reader who has reached this conclusion (however bizarre) on your own? Or is your "friend" some neo-nazi feeding you crackpot theories? I'd be interested to know if this friend really exists.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    They are NOT ZOMBIES !!!!!! NOT NOT NOT

    by corplhicks

    I've written above why not- look at what's going on in the clip. They are fleeing humans, there's ONE zombie who attacks ONE human and turns him. That's it. want more proof-- look at the woman who flinches and backs away when she sees the attack. Obviously she's not a zombie either. They are fleeing !

  • having read wwz and zombie survival guide from what i can remember the infection solanum took about 24 hours to fully hit...clearly changed here. What bothers me more is that zombies are flesh eaters not just spreaders of disease...so many recent films in memory have changed zombies to one bite macgees...they need to rip open flesh and bone. On the to fast v slow. It really should be both. I love the horde mentality of the Romero zombies, but Brooks specifically mentions that initial infected are just as fast and strong as any human without fatigue. This eventually becomes the slow lumber when muscles wear thin and atrophy. we'll see, hopefully do both. Marc Forster has done some great work...Stay was good and so was Stranger Than Fiction. In good hands pg-13 can be very good. Look at Verbinsky's Ring. That is all...you guys are crazy, but i love you.

  • Sept. 8, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Darth Vader should never say Noooo! And Zombies should never run!

    by Cinemajerk

    Also they shouldn't transform THAT fast. All ya gotta do is slap some Benny Hill music over it, and you got a comedy. Don't get me wrong, I dug the 28 day later films, and the remake of Dawn of the Dead with their spazzed out coked up olympic sprinting zombies...but it's time to get back to the slow moving shuffling hordes again. We miss those goofy bastards. Can't wait until the Walking Dead season 2 begins. Their coming to geeeeeet you baaaaarbaaaaraaah! Yup. MUCH better when the dead move slooooooooowly.

  • ...she says the prominence given to Israel in the book so early on in the novel over all other nations, is an obvious move that makes sense, given the author's background - jewish. If it wasn't racist, why are other middleeastern nations destroyed aside from the Zionist state? Sounds like your hidden agenda accusations are misdirected, perhaps you ought to project it to the author as there are clear alterior motives in his writing. No point arguing with me, as I refuse to read zionist propoganda

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    allthosepowers, you're such a fucking redneck

    by corplhicks

    Can't say the word Israel, can you ? You sound like some Saudi Arabian prick or some Gazan Hamas terrorist piece of shit. Good, don't read the book. Instead, why don't you read Mein Kampf, so you can jack off while studying the words of your dead leader. Then please just end yourself.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST

    allthosepowers

    by corplhicks

    And also, if you had even the slightest brain that wasn't full of ignorant ideas and hate, you might recognize that Israel in the story welcomed Muslims into their land for protection, and if you consider that it is a very small, yet highly advanced, Western-level country, it's small size and strong military make it possible for such a country to survive the Zombie plague; unlike for example, a very large country with porous borders like many many other countries, or less advanced countries. However, such an understanding, and certainly a knowledge of the book is beyond your ability. Please, don't let me stop you re-mounting your sister or cousin for the third time today. And keep blaming others for your own failures. Putz

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST

    allthosepowers .....another thing you should know

    by corplhicks

    Israel is a country not a "race". Jewish people are a religious minority, not a "race". Same goes for Christians, as they are a religious group, not a "race". There are black, white, asian, etc.. Christians.... same goes for Jews, and many other religions. Try cracking open a book and learning about the scientific origin of man and you will learn about a few of the original races that were part of the "out of africa" theory that became our human population. My G-d man, even North Korea in the book had the ability to close its borders and hide from the plague-- in fact it is not even known at the end whether the N. Koreans all survived and were in hiding underground or they were all Zombies; point is, it was proposed that they COULD have all survived intact. Maybe you should goose-step over to a building in your backass town called a "library"-- inside are things called books; inside many of them are things called "facts" and "knowledge"-- I suggest you ask the person who works inside, called a "librarian" to help you become an enlightened individual; you can explain that years of inbred poverty and mind pollution by your kin-folk/uncle/brother/sister caused you to be an ignorant fool and you are desperately seeking to shed that filthy cloak in place of a modern elegant mind. Go for it, there is still hope for you !

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    @allthosepowers

    by Robert Michael

    My comment truly wasn't meant to bash you but it was meant to call you out on your bizarre claims. Now your imaginary friend is a political sciences major? Ok then. You sound kind of like a girl I knew in high school. She couldn't win an argument to save her life. Every time she was in an argument she would start spawning imaginary relatives and friends who were Professors of this or experts in that to try to lend her arguments weight. I for one will argue using my own knowledge. And having actually read the book (which of course should have been your first step before even discussing it), I can say that the claims of it being Zionist in any way, shape, or form is pure anti-jewish fantasy. I probably shouldn't have even bothered calling you out on your agenda as it was already plain for everyone to see. All you've managed to do is draw everyones attention to your bizarre worldview. Still, I'm actually glad that it's you who are representing the anti-jewish establishment. Imagine what would happen if someone who was intelligent and articulate represented those beliefs? People might have actually listened to you. And before the "Savage is just a Zionist cheerleader" accusation comes in, I'm not Jewish. Nor am I anti or pro Jewish. I'm ambivalent. They can keep on keeping on as far as I'm concerned. It just irks me when someone who is so obviously basing their beliefs on misinformation and hate tries to take a product that clearly has nothing whatsoever to do with their belief system and turn it into something that does. It'd be like me posting in the Talkbacks accusing the producers of That '70s Show of furthering their Muslim beliefs. I'd be making an accusation based in no way on fact or even believable conjecture. I would look like a moron and would probably get put in my place by a few AICN Talkbackers... kind of like what's happening here. I'm curious to see if you actually thought you'd convert anyone here? Did you think you'd say "It's Zionist!" and everyone would be floored by your articulate argument and start asking where they can sign up to your organization?

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Corplhicks. Jewish is both a race and a religeon

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Its the only one. But otherwise, all is correct. allthosepowers hasn't read the book, and is just a dumb troll.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    @savagewolf you do sound like a moron so let me put you in your place...

    by AllThosePowers

    ...remember I never said I read the book - and to question someone who has, in my case a friend who is a student - is not a tactic to reinforce a belief or convert others, I am merely stating what somebody has said to me. So, unpicking my motives or pathetic attempts to psycho analyse this talkbacker is exactly that; pathetic and it says a great deal about you, clearly you like to presume and assume things, under the guise of appearing to accurately unmask this individual. Word of advice dummy, I already know why I type things out on boards and say what I say. Reading your laughable theories about why I've written what I have, tells me you are of the very disposition you accuse me of. Know this, I never lie what I write, there's very little point. You obviously do, which is why your ability to trust is impaired, because you commit the same offences you believe others are guilty of, when really talkbackers are very seldom dishonest about what they say, as most always say what they feel. Now this friend I have, I don't have many because people are like you, she has read the book and she is a political science student and she has told me the book is pro-zionist. So what the fuck do you want me to do about this fact, put your fucking views forward. Don't come on in here trying to Freud out my reasoning and motives, as I have none, I just fucking chat ad say what i know. You on the other hand write your words with such care and precision, employing all grammar, spelling and punctuation correctly, you give the impression that very few people listen to you in life. Please don't try to fill in that gap with me, you can fuck right off!! And if you must know why I believe her, it's because she's Jewish dickhead, that's why. As for the rest of you; FUCK OFF!!

  • ...I shan't be reading nor watching any zionist propaganda. You are obviously in possession of the full facts about the story, I mean, you know the book was written by someone from a powerful influential Jewish family, you also know that Israel are the first to announce quarantine and close all borders in the novel. you know that in the book Israel is the only country to recognize the implications of the zombie threat early on, and seals itself off its land-borders with a massive perimeter fortification of reinforced concrete, dubbed "The Wall". you know that all children of Israeli-born parents, non-Israeli Jews, and most surprisingly, all Palestinians and descendants of pre-1948 Palestinians who lived abroad are allowed to seek shelter within Israel after careful screening. Originally, most of the world openly condemns israel for these actions, particularly its Muslim-controlled neighbors, who claimed on the Al-Jazeera television network it was a Zionist lie and Israel was faking the story to cover up military retreats. But this self-imposed quarantine is a life-saving step for the country. You also know that like the United States, Israel establishes a coalition government during the zombie epidemic. In building the protective wall, the country's borders shrink nearly to their pre-1967 size, due to the fact that the entrance to Jerusalem wasn't fortified. This was done to retract to a more defensible border, as well as (combined with letting Palestinians back in) an attempt to convince the world that the Wall was honestly being built as a defense against zombies, and not to secure territorial conquests. The loss of Jerusalem, coupled with the invitation of shelter to all Palestinians, causes a civil war within Israel. The Orthodox Jew population rises up against Israel's coalition government, but are easily defeated by the Israel Defense Force (due ironically to the fact that the rebels had previously refused military training on religious grounds). Despite these internal problems, the country survives the war in decent shape, at least in comparison to it's neighbors. The withdrawal from the West Bank briefly resulted in the creation of a de facto independent Palestine, though it is implied that it was overwhelmed during the first year of the zombie pandemic, along with all surrounding territories outside the Wall. In Saudi Arabia, the royal family sets fire to their oil fields during the war. It is explicitly stated that their reason for doing this is unknown. So all in all, Israel is the best country to live in in the middle east according to World War Z. Now I don't know, I mean i haven't read the book, but about the above descriptions from a website I found illuminating, clearly this is a book written by a jewish man, about a story that has parralels with the current conflict and addresses these socio-economic issues using zombie allegory. Now, as for the nazi accusation, if you keep insisting that people like me who offer evidence as facts behind what we believe are entirely wrong, then you must also accept members of the UN are also Nazis and so are the majority of the world who back a two state solution in the middle east. And except for the US, Israel and Australia and few micronesia islands, the entire world wants a palestinian state. I stand with the entire world on this issue, if that makes me a nazi, then I should be proud to be one and if I ever have the displeasure of meeting you, you can be sure I will subject you to my gas chamber, by farting in your fucking face dickhead. You all should know better than to go up against all these powers. Now FUCK OFF!!

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST

    hahahah you're such a 'Tard

    by corplhicks

    The so-called Palestinians have no biblical claim to that land. Muslims scream about religion, yet for some strange reason they are silent on this. Israel is a Jewish state and will be. However, Christians and Jews live there happily side by side and all are free to pray and live life as they choose-- it is ruled by an elected body and all citizens, Arabs too, can vote in it. HMMMM... try looking at all the other countries around Israel in the Mid East-- humans rights, voting for women, religious freedom, basically anything in our Bill of Rights, they are backward. Now try adding up the Nobel Prizes they have won-- short list. Now try other faiths, Christians, Jews-- pretty damn big huh? Never wanted to get into this, but nothing short of antisemitism drives so many people against Israel, and jealousy. I mean really, a tiny population in a tiny country just wants a SMALL piece of real estate which was theirs and given to them by the UN. In terms of a wall, try googling walls all over the world and you can find a bunch. Since the wall was partially put up, terrorism is way down, thankfully. However, you showed your hole card with your gas chamber comment, your true colors for all to see. Guess my goose stepping comment was a good one earlier. While you are at it, whatever shit hole you live in, do us all a favor, move to Yemen, or Sudan or Saudi Arabia and have fun there with all the freedoms ! And please for the good of humanity , just off yourself !

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    I won't read Zionist Zombie propaganda...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...but I'll read all about it online! From an Illuminating website! With cool swastikas! Dude, reading the anti-Zionist Cliff Notes version online doesn't mean you know shit about the novel. I found the most telling comment to be the one you made about not having many friends. Small wonder. Oh, and fuck you and your Anti-Americanism. What was the point of that, other than to reinforce our perception of you as a totally bigoted douchebag? Whatever. Grow the fuck up and read, not burn, a book. (I had a huge rant after this, but went back and deleted it because there's enough vitriol in here as it is....)

  • ...http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/World_War_Z where are your "cool swastikas" spunk breath? Sadly for you I read reliable sources. Calling me anti-american? Well if it weren't for a couple of know nothing, lowlifes, as ambassadors you gave me no choice, what else am I supposed to think, that you're from Europe. Fuck Right off you cunts, don't make me laugh. and coplhicks, nobody agrees with your political stance except those who have grown up like you. I have proved my point by giving you evidence, while you just say things aimlessly, bouncing off the walls without any logical and coherent thought. Clearly you are an american, and I take back my rant over those who are yanks, because truly no one on earth can be like you. Your words make you sound like your mother gave birth to you from her asshole. Now you two go back to feasting on each other's shit pipes.

  • Sept. 9, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    oh really? well prove me wrong with facts

    by corplhicks

    How many copes of Protocols of the Elders of Zion do you own by the way? Are the pages covered in your missing-chromosome cum ? LOLOL Of course I am American and very proud of it-- grandparents from Europe, came here penniless, worked as laborers and store clerks and sent their child to college, the first one. Lived in a tiny apartment in New York. Are they part of some Jewish conspiracy too, being handed a golden ticket? can you pervert even a nice immigrant story like that into something bad? Go ahead please. And where are you from? Most of Europe these days has forgotten all history before the Berlin wall fell, it seems. do you even understand America? Our Constitution, our Bill of Rights? Do you hold any gratitude for America, England, Canada, France and Russia for defeating Fascism? Doubt it, my guess is your favorite website is stormfront and you listen to the David Duke station. And what do you do for a living anyway? Are you well educated from an academic university? And what does sending me a link about a plot summary about a work of fiction mean anyway? And who cares what this author wrote about any of this-- in the end it is entertainment. And if Israel is shown in an intelligent way, trying to keep its population alive, that bothers you how exactly????? hurts you how exactly??? you bigots must get so irked by the successes of others. If you lived in America, you probably would not like Asians or Indians (Asian) either because they too disproportionately succeed in higher education.. Ever try to use the few neurons you have to guess how and why that happens????? Maybe because their families stress certain values to their children. Please never move to America-- it is so wonderful here, with so many of our liberties and freedoms and quality of life, you simply do not deserve it.

  • ...you need to stop with your hate and calling everyone a bigot just because they offer evidence and reliable sources to prove their point. So let's try again. I will tell you a fact "the US and Israel are the most hated nations in the world, they always appear as number 1 and number 2, but their images are improving as now they are in the top 4. Still their foreign policy attracts negativity from other nations." Here is an official BBC Word Service poll conducted by globescan to prove my point about negative and positive image projected from and to participating countries. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/05_03_11_bbcws_country_poll.pdf please offer evidence to counter what I say, or are you so illiterate and are only limited to conspiracy theories to prove your point. Grow up, get educated and obtain intellect. And stop going on about how tough life was for you and your family, you're embarrassing yourself and showing ignorance - a trait endemic to most Americans. If you want to know how tough life is growing up, you should speak to people living in other continents like Africa and Asia. It's hilarious that in the 21st century you still believe growing up in New York City was very hard for you. You are very very typical I've showed others what you say and you are a cliche.

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Reality Check

    by Robert Michael

    So, allthosepowers, you have had plenty of posts here to spread your bizarre beliefs. You have attempted to defend these beliefs and convince others that you are right. And not a single person has been convinced by your attempts. If anything, this Talkback represents a gathering of random individuals from various countries, religions, and backgrounds who are connected only by an interest in the movie business. It's usually pretty rare to find the vast majority of people in a Talkback agreeing on one subject. But in this case, every single person who has posted on this subject (other than you of course) believes that you are promoting racist beliefs. This isn't a case of you stating a belief and one person shooting it down. You haven't gathered a single supporter. You're quoting a website synopsis of a book that you claim that you haven't read in order to show how knowledgeable you are about the content of that book? Wow. I bow to your obviously superior understanding of the book... from a synopsis... of one chapter that deals with Israel. I wonder if when you wrote that you actually thought that you were bringing up evidence that would stengthen your argument? You, sir, have made yourself an intellectual laughingstock. Every attempt you have made to "prove" your theory has utterly failed. I love too how quickly you have descended into schoolyard 4-letter insults. It really shows the intellectual capacity that you are operating at. Keep posting, allthosepowers. I'm sure that you'll eventually convince all of us. Plus, I'm having a lot of fun watching you try to defend yourself. It's like watching a kid in University up in front of the class who obviously hasn't studied the subject at hand but is desperately trying to defend his theories to a room full of knowledgeable people. You know that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being successfull, but like with any trainwreck you stop and watch anyway. Your intellectual drubbing is very entertaining to watch. Keep defending those crackpot theories!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Jewish and Anti-Zionist?

    by Robert Michael

    Allthosepowers. What more can I say? Your imaginary anti-Zionist political sciences friend who happens to be a girl you know is now also a Jew? Really? A Jewish anti-Zionist who is an expert in the field about which we are talking? /epicfail By next week she'll be an anti-zionist Jewish political sciences major supermodel sexaholic whom you are having wild sex with whilst posting moronic anti-zionist tripe on a movie website, of all things. I pity you. But making up friends looks like fun so here I go... My friend, who is a 5' 100lbs redheaded olympic contortionist supermodel political sciences Professor just told me, while we were having wild monkey sex on top of her bisexual blond roommate, that you are wrong. So there.

  • ...should you wish to argue your points I suggest we meet, clearly, this forum has elevated your passion for intellectual discourse about this issue to levels that may even warrant the involvement of Norman Finklestein, Noam Chormski or even Shlomo Sands (btw all three of these individuals are professors, all three are jewish and all three are anti-zionist are you also saying these individuals are promoting racist beliefs, becuase trust me on this, I have only said that WWZ is zionist propaganda, which I stick by, however, these three world renowned scholars have said things which are far more controversial about zionism, are they too racist?) I think you will find that most sensible and common-sensed jewish people are not of your breed - they understand right from wrong and remain unknotted to the hate and vehiment destruction that you so wish to apply to those who have theories about such and such. You haven't presented a single iota of factual evidence to backup my theories and yet you have the outlet to do so. You are weaker than weak and it shows in your words, all rubix-cubed and twisted as though you've been chewing on hate for eons. If you cannot present facts - nobody is interested in your uninformed opinions as you like most people are derivatives and I too am also the same, but at least I make great efforts to open and close arguments with sources and reliable ones at that, like the BBC world service or Zombie wiki. What have you or your dicksucking coplhicks offered? Nothing, just childish sarcastic comments built and illshaped with parody and smart arseness, easily achievable by any regular 12 year old. I was searching for something, anything, some sign of profundity in everything you've written, alas there is an empty void, reflecting the contents of your skull no doubt. So please, grow up or go away. You and your friend are boring me every comment you make is yawn inducing and nothing you say enlightens me - I don't learn anything you say. Your material is worthless so I shan't be replying anymore. I just hope that you find it in yourself to one day get a small box, maybe 50cm cubed, go to the edge of the highest cliff and begins tuffing and squeezing yourself into said box, once every limb is firmly locked inside, hurl yourself off the top and scream Jeronimo!! Now fuck off!!

  • Sept. 10, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    Allthosepowers

    by Robert Michael

    I like that when he posts to Corplhicks it's all 4-letter words. When he posts to me he does his best to make sure that his grammar is correct and his spelling is as well. Allthosepowers, you were intimidated the moment the word "intellectual" was introduced to this Talkback. Despite your best efforts, your grammar is still atrocious. I'm afraid that this is probably your level of education showing through. As you descend into your fantastical descriptions you can't help yourself and your thoughts start to lose cohesion, your spelling starts to slip, and all attempts at employing proper grammar go out the window. "I don't learn anything you say". -Quote: Allthosepowers Clearly. I would like to take this moment to apologize to you. It isn't very becoming to talk down to someone and clearly you aren't operating on the level of the rest of the people in this forum. What we have said is beyond you. We apologize for laughing and pointing at the forums pet moron. I'm sorry if people who have actually read the source material disagree with you. Obviously you know more about this book and film adaptation then we could ever hope to know. Afterall, you read the synopsis, while we were relegated to reading the actual book like chumps. Just think of all the time you saved by skimming through a synopsis and gaining total understanding of the book and it's apparent hidden meaning (so well hidden, in fact, that only you and your imaginary friend can see it). Meanwhile, we sludged through the book, turning page after page, actually enjoying reading it, and we completely missed the whole Zionist part. It's almost as if the Zionist part wasn't even there... The internet has afforded everyone with the opportunity to post comments on any subject they like. There is no pre-screening process that determines whether the person is knowledgeable about the subject they wish to write about. This is, of course, how you got into this forum. It's unfortunate that you've stumbled into a forum with people who think for themselves and are therefore immune to your "theories". You've been entertaining, Allthosepowers, entertaining but inaffective. In regards to your educational level, there's a reason why I haven't stated mine. Whether I claim to be a highschool dropout or a tenured Professor doesn't mean anything in this forum; it is too easy to believe that these claims are lies. Instead, I allow people to guess my educational and cognitive level by reading my posts and determining for themselves if I seem educated. You obviously feel that I am not. I'd be curious to find out what people think about the strength of your argument (WWZ is Zionist propaganda) vs. mine (WWZ is a well written zombie book that doesn't include Zionist propaganda at all). We'll let the forum decide on this one. Rate us out of 10. Stakes? Loser gets banned.

  • Sept. 11, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I agree savagewolf

    by corplhicks

    perhaps it was the caustic nature of what I wrote that prompted his response; however, I assure I am quite capable of more sophisticated writing; I've found the moronic ignorance cannot be convinced away from their beliefs-- history has shown us that such people simply need to be squashed by the right minded.

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