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CONAN THE KING'!'!'!'!'
Hey folks... Well... A.B.? Calm down. In addition to that LIST of Arnold projects floating about the other day... it seems that there is a project yet unheard of. As the 'skater!' says below... it does not yet have a screenwriter firmed up. BUT... If there was a CROM, and if he was mightier than your Four Winds... Then we would see this movie, and then when we appeared before CROM, we could answer the riddle of Schwarzenegger... Alas, I fear we shall never know the answer..
Harry, don't know if you've heard, but Andreen Entertainment (their deal is
at New Line) is working on developing yet another Ah-nuld project....Conan
the King. It's still in the early stages right now, but they're trying to
get Randall Wallace to write the screenplay. Thought you'd be interested, if
you hadn't heard already. So you can add this to the list the next time you
do a roundup of potential Arnold projects.
Later
skater!
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Jan 28, 2000 2:46:11 AM CST
i musta caught harry while he was updating 'cause im first again
by johnmurdoch
well this is the second time in about fifteen minutes ive come to the site and found something new. anyway this sounds interesting. another potential project for arnold. you know i think his list of potential projects is as impressive if not more impressive than his current filmography. lets hope he does a good one after whats sure to be the god awful on the sixth day and collateral damage.
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With the $20 million budget inflator that Arnold brings to any project, they're going to need a project that can make money. The Conan films were definitely cool, but something tells me that there isn't that great a crowd out there for it...
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This is just about the only Arnie production that could get me excited. If done well (i.e. directed by Milius) this can be fantastic. Let's face it, in all of Schwarzenegger's long career, the only films where he was the best possible actor for the part were the Terminator films and Conan. Forget all the other crap he's considering. This should be his next - and last - movie.
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hehehe, just kidding.
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When THE IRON GIANT first appeared in Hogarth
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This Talkback only just started and already some cock-gobbling, monkey raper (Mr. Logic) has fucked up the scrolling. Nice going Dicko. Anyway, I'd love to see another Conan movie. Those and the Terminator films are the only ones where Arnie seriously kicked ass. We can always use another excessively bloody action flick. With "Gladiator" coming this summer maybe we can get some more middle-ages, bloodlust, maim-and-kill adventure. And to all of you who come on here and brag about being first, you might as well brag about having a one-inch penis.
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Oh great; it's from that visionary talent who's putting together that sterling "Pearl Harbor" script. Wonderful. Not that it really matters - the chances of Arnold going back to Conan are about the same as his doing a Cameron-less "Terminator 3/4". I'm still pining for "Crusade".
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Conan the king should be a grizzled old warrior weighing around 250lbs, sadly Arnold is far from that more like 190! and I doubt that he has the will to train himself hard enough to achieve a physique that is required for a movie of this nature. The final stories of Conan are among my favorites and the last Conan story saw the old warrior giving up his crown in search of new adventures as he strode of into the mists of the unknown. The original Conan movie is probably the greatest fantasy movie ever put together, the second was screwed up by the Italian mob, but is still passable. I seriously doubt if Conan the King will ever happen, but if it did, John Milius would have to be the man..and since I have long black hair and weigh a solid 250, I would play Conan.
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I've waited for a very long time for him to make this movie. Only if done by the same people that did part two to make it at least as good as the last one. Especially Basil Pouldaris,he made one of the best classical soundtracks ever.I stil listen to it. Destroyer is still one of my favorite movies of all time and it started Arnolds carrer. Now only if they could get him and Cameron to do Aliens vs Predator. Arnold would be the Terminator kickin both their asses.
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Jan 28, 2000 4:42:31 AM CST
Conan is the BEST possible thing Schwarzenneger could do right n
by mickey finn
Look, let's get one thing straight - I LOVE Conan. I dig Terminator, I dig Predator, I dig Running Man, but I LOVE Conan. It's got to be my favourite Schwazenegger. That Basil Peldouris soundtrack never strays far from my CD player, and whenever it's on I can smell blood. It's the first Conan movie I really love - the second one's fun, but something's missing (and they only budgeted for a smaller orchestra for Peldouris, the idiots - that guy should be given the biggest orchestra in the world). So YES, I would love nothing more than for Schwarzenegger to do a new Conan. But let's face it guys, even if he does it he's going to fuck it up. You know all that moral crap that made him stop doing kickass films and start doing bad comedies, and that made him want his character to be vulnerable in End of Days? I just KNOW he'd pull some of that crap on a Conan set. He'd have a scene where the mighty King says 'Perhaps violence is not the way to defeat evil,' and dances into the horizon of Cimeria with the kids from Kindergarden Cop and Emma Thompson's character from Junior. And that would be the worst thing that could possibly happen.
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...does anybody else think that the struggle of spelling Arnie's surname has probably helped impoverished children the world over overcome their dyslexia?
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Am I the only one who has noticed people who say "I'm first" in talkbacks are usually second - sometimes even third?
Why?
Either they don't get the concept of "first", or Harry's talkback police deliberately mess with these repetitive talkbackers by swapping them around with anothe poster.
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This movie should not be made unless John Milius directs.
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YESSSS !!!!
This movie definitely needs to be made. And Arnold is the only person to play Conan. I only can hope and pray to Crom that it is true.
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This movie will never happen, period and I can't believe that I am actually wasting time writing about it, I suppose like the rest of you I have nothing better to do with my life at this point in time right now....pass the hankies someone ?
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Even if the Tutonic giant doesn't pick up on this, maybe it could still get made. Hell, there's got to be another giant bodybuilder with no acting talent and an odd accent somewhere in the world hasn't there!?
I'm more of a fan of the concept of Conan rather than the fact that Arnie WAS Conan (much as I do have a very big soft spot for both movies).
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Jan 28, 2000 9:14:18 AM CST
Arnold, you must do this thing. For humanity, Arnold. For humani
by dave_f
Make this damn movie. Arnold's gettin' on in years, but he can do this. His biceps are still packin' a little heat, as evinced in the abomination that was END OF DAYS. Not sure about that scriptwriter (is Oliver Stone available again?), and Mickey Finn's comments scare me...but damn, I want so much for this to work. If you could get a strong director to leash Arnold into a return to his nihilistic former self...if you could get Basil Poledouris to sign on...and if the movie carries a strong R rating in the tradition of BRAVEHEART...oh yeah, baby, let me tell you of the days of HIGH ADVENTURE! I'd buy up enough tickets to fucking clear that movie a profit myself. Screw CRUSADER, Arnold. Conan is a legend, an icon. To quote Schwarzenegger himself as the Predator was about to polish him off..."DO IT!"
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As much as I would LOVE to see this movie made more than anything else that's been mentioned as being on Arnold's plate, I just don't believe that Arnold would have any interest in doing Conan these days.
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Jan 28, 2000 9:50:02 AM CST
John Millius, Randall Wallace: CONAN III (another 80's franchise
by abking
This is great news if it is not a fan boy spreading rumors. I wouldn't mind seeing John Millius helm CONAN THE KING. A 100 million budgeted CONAN III would totally rule. After seeing the trailer for GLADIATOR (kick ass to the max) and seeing the trailer for CONAN THE BARBARIAN (I have it and it is the score that the Gladiator trailer uses), a CONAN THE KING is going to be a must see for genre fans. If someone says Arnold is too old, don't worry about that. From what I understand, Conan is older, so that part is taken care of. The scooper said they are trying to get Randall Wallace to write part III. Is Wallace and Arnold a team now. I mean, Wallace has WITH WINGS AS EAGLES to do with Schwarzenegger, and now he is rumored to be the writer they want to do CONAN THE KING. He is a GREAT writer so that is a very good thing. It's too bad 20th Century Fox doesn't get Wallace to write COMMANDO II (though Frank Darabont did a good job with his 1989 C2 script).
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...if everything in my dreams were to come true. George Lucas would write a killer SW2, Arnie do a new Conan movie, Batman5 would actually be an adaptation of "the dark knight returns" complete with Clint Eastwood as a pill poppin', slightly psycotich Bat, and directed by either Tim Burton or Paul Verhooven, (if you ask why paul V. check out the storytelling technique in "Robocop" and "StarshipTroopers". LOTR turn out to be the ultimate fantasy movies, EVER...
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Jan 28, 2000 10:06:13 AM CST
Ummm... am I the only one who noticed that Todd is now capitaliz
by stephen dedalus
Okay, now I'm worried about you, Todd. You're referring to the Iron Giant as "Him" and "He," with a capitalized "H." Does this mean you worship this fictional characer as a diety? Do you have a shrine built in your basement where there are pictures and frames from the movie plastered all over the wall, with a holy statue of the Iron Giant in the middle of an altar built out of garbage and refuge? Do you have incense and candles placed around it? Do you offer sacrifices of fresh, molten metal to this god of yours? Or do you just think he's the one who brings you presents at Christmas? Here's a prayer you can use: "Our Iron Giant, who art blown to pieces/ hallowed to be thy scrap/ thy pieces come/ thy will be done/ on Earth as it is on your alien planet/ give us this day our daily steel/ and forgive us our nuke missles/ as we forgive those who shoot nukes against us/ and lead us not into war/ but deliver us from the conspiring FBI/ for thine is the most sacred and glorious of all fictional characters... Amen." Just a suggestion.
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After Conan the Destroyer I was crushed. Conan was one of my all time faves as a yoot and still holds up for me. But part 2 was s*%t. Even as young as I was when I saw it I knew it for what it was. Just last night I was devouring a tale from the original Howard Conan stories and its hard to imagine they could f#$k it up as hard as they did. There is a wealth of story ideas in those books, but I'm sure some f*%k is gonna come along like he knows what the f&%k he's talkin about and is gonna write some Bulls*$t and try to pass it off as Conan. I used to get pumped when a new Arnold picture came out, if if it was crap cause I knew there would be ass kickin'!! But alas....not so any more. Do it right or DON'T F*&CKIN DO IT!!!!
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Let this be true. I love Conan in all its cheesy glory. Arnie in kick ass sword fights and half naked woman everywhere, BRILLIANT.
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Its about time there is a rumor about a decent Arnold film. Arnie needs to return to his roots (no words, big action i.e. Conan, Terminator, Predator) and this could be the film to do it. To tell the truth I've been waiting on this since the kick ass shot of Conan as King at the end of the original film. Fingers are crossed...
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on the crusades. They were NOT about religion, it was just an excuse. They were designed by the powers that be (mostly the kings and queens of England and France) to join thier people and stop fighting each other. The people hated each other so they created a "new" enemy to both, being the muslum's in Israel.
But painless is right on the madness, most died before they got there. They even sent chilren on one believing God would protect them.
But don't get the wrong idea, the people that lived during such times were NOT as stupid as we make them out to be. Contrary to group thought, they was a lot of intellect during that time.
But you fuckers wouldn't know that. The only books you pick up either have DC on the end, or are found in the Fiction isle at Borders. -
Randall Wallace is getting a lot of work tossed his way ... the man has proven that he has some talent. Braveheart ... Man in the Iron Mask ... good stuff. And now.. maybe Conan the King , still I don't know if I would even talk to Arnold about doing the film. After his last couple of efforts ... and the ol' projects in the works , plus that 20plus mill tag ... I really don't know. And who will direct this baby ... someone who will make a Hercules ala Kull feature ... I'm fearful. Now, listen I enjoyed Kull and I loved the Hercules t.v. show ... they are what they are .. some slam bang fun! After you have experience John Millius's Conan ... you want something along those lines. I enjoyed the 13th Warrior ... it was a bit uneven ... poorly edited, but the actors were larger than life and it was filled with mood and action ... not that campy stuff ala Kull. Pick the lead from the 13th Warrior ... dye his hair black and there you go ... hell cast everyone in the movie ... except Zorro ... the woman who had some type of bond with the leader of the Vikings would make a outstanding Queen for Conan ... all of this is wishful thinking .. I'm not getting to high on this, still I will toss in my two cents. Who knows maybe a exec will read ACIN posts and listen to what we have to say ... one last not get a Director who can handle a project of this type ... Paul V ( Total Recall) ... John Millius (Conan) ... John Mc (the 13th Warrior) ... these guys can give us the manly treatment a project like this deserves ... anyway thats my thoughts. What do you guys and gals think?
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There is already a perfect story out there for a great "Conan The King" movie, and it's called "The Hour of the Dragon," the only full-length Conan novel written by Robert E. Howard (it was republished as "Conan the Conquerer." If they would write a faithful script based on Howard's original--instead of a Hollywood-ized mishmash a la the original Conan movies (which I mostly hated, I confess), these guys would have the definitive sword-and-sorcery movie of all time. But I'm betting that Hollywood is too stupid to recognize the validity of the original work, preferring their own lesser ideas.
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Does anybody know how the character Conan became King of Aquilonia? Also, what did he do after he took the throne? If the movie answers one or both of these questions, I'll be happy with it.
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Upon its original inception John Milius planned the films to be a trilogy based on the principles of Zen philosophy. The first was the discovery of ones self (Conan the Barbarian), the second was about the rise to and corruptiuon of power, and the third (Conan the King)about the loss of power and having to rediscover oneself.
The story arc was abandoned when Conan was a hit and all the major players got caught up in other projects. Milius as far as anyone knows, never wrote the sequels in time for Arnold to cash in, so Arnie thought Conan the Destroyer was good enough to make instead of the original plan, and thus, the trilogy was ruined.
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Someone was gonna say it, so it might as well be me :) A new Conan could work, if he is played as an older, wiser(?) warrior, not some pumped-up superstud who can take on 50 guys at once...
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Shortly after Conan the Destroyer, as screeplay for Conan the King started floating around. I picked up a copy years back and it was not good. Way too talky. The brilliance of the first movie is that it told the story visually and with music. The sad fact is that fantasy-style dialogue comes out sounding really goofy.
Anyway, when Kull the Conquorer came out, about 10 minutes into it I realized IT WAS THE SAME SCRIPT!!! They'd crossed out Conan, Cimmeria and Aquilonia and put in Kull, Atlantis and Valusia, called in a gag writer to put in some Sorboesqe banter to make up for the bad dialogue, et voila! -
How many boxes of kleenex do go through while watching THE IRON GIANT (and I don't mean from crying)?
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. . . that between the years when deLaurentis guided Conan on his journeys and when the Cameron gave him his mighty guns, there was an Arnold age undreamed of!~~~~~~~~~Lately however, Arnold's been slipping up and giving the green light to some, shall we say, questionable scripts. I definitely WOULD like to see a Conan movie with Arnie done right. The first one was the closest (although a bit too philosophical and disjointed. Also, does anyone know why deLaurentis changed the scene with the animated skeleton? In the book, Conan dukes it out with the animated skeleton for possession of the sword, while in the movie THE DAMN THING JUST FALLS OVER! Anyone know the reason why?) The second movie was just a cheesy comic book style version of Conan (thanks, no doubt, to Roy Thomas.) So I don't really think the Conan stories have been given their due on the big screen. (I won't even mention the Red Sonja. S-s-so a-AWFUL!)~~~~~~~On a related note, I wouldn't mind seeing an adaption of Solomon Kane for the big screen, if done well (a big if, I know.)
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You people really need to get a life, goddammit. How the hell can you possibly think my hair isn
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I disagree about Arnold gearing towards the kid market. He is a business man as well as a action hero and I would think that he would realize that this would not be a kids movie. End of Days and most of his other movies havent been kids movies. in fact I cant think of any movies he has made that has been geared toward children except maybe Kindergarten Cop, and that still had shoot-outs, murders, and whatever else in it. So softening up "King" is not really a issue i would think.
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Whether it'll happen is another matter. I'd like to see Milius write and direct this but Wallace would be a good choice too. Milius did a perfect job adapting this kind of material to the screen because he made it his own while keeping it recognizable as the source material. It wasn't Robert E. Howard's Conan, but it was Conan, if you know what i mean.
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Or as the lead in "Sexual Captain Nemo". I would purchase a ticket to see this.
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How about a giant adult epic animated conan flick? Rated R. Crazy-ass grandiose Poledouris music (incluing a lot of the original tunes, maybe reworked -- maybe not?)
The thing with Conan is that for those who've read the novels, each reader has a different idea of how conan looks. An animated Conan would be SOOO much harder to pre-judge than having Arnold or some other euro-hulk in his sandals. The only thing, though, is to make sure Disney does not have a hand in this; their male characters look ridiculous.
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Forget Conan....2000ad has Slaine, who is far superior in everyway....
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Jan 28, 2000 11:22:32 PM CST
Hope it's more serious than the crap we suffered through in 'Des
by stonemonkey
Chamberlain is gone. Mako is still around. Screw Olivia D'Abo. Grace Jones?? I really don't think so. Make this baby hardcore Conan like the first film, and no cheezy comedy shit like last time. Hopefully, after Arnold is done with his Andy Davis film, he'll do this. About damn time I say. I'll find out if Arnold signed on to star in the Davis film. I know the stunt coordinator lined up for the film. Good buddy of mine by the name of Tom(Three Kings)Muzila. StoneMonkey out....
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Now this is pretty cool. Something I've been waiting for a long time. Does everybody remember at the end of the other two Conans when they have a picture of Arnold, looking very pissed off with a beard, and they have the voice over..."And he wore a crown over his troubled brow...but that was another story!" Just awesome man. I've been telling everybody who would listen to my ravings that they have got to make a final installment of Conan where he is king. Excellent. I hope this story turns out to be true...although, now that I think about it, there's no telling what will happen when Arnold gets his paws on it. It will probably never happen and even if it did it would have so many changes and rewrites it will probably stink worse that the second one. But if it is made it will have to better than the first one, just blow everybody's socks off. But I don't think such a thing is possible. But they do need J.M. to direct. A must! Oh yeah, who knows, if Arnold turns it down, maybe we can get a real Conan to play the part. Conan O'Brien anyone? Andy Richter could be the little wizard sidekick. I'm a sick bastard aren't I.
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I loved the first Conan movie, but I loved it despite the source material, not because of it. You see, I've tried to read some of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories - and couldn't finish them. Howard was a racist, a bigot and a self-declared Nazi sympathizer. Conan, to him, was supposed to be some sort of archetypical Aryan "Ubermentch", and it shows. All the heroes and damsels are tall and beautiful; small, dark skinned people are regarded with contempt. Besides all that, he just wasn't that great a writer. Sure, his writing was exciting, visceral and occasionally evocative, but he lacked depth. His stories never tried to reach beyond the realm of hask-and-slash pulp to genuine awe and real emotions. Stone and Milius adressed these problem in their movie, taking out the racist elements, and integrating some high-fantasy and philosophical motifs. Any future Conan movie should be based on Howerd's works, but loosely, very loosely.
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Remember, I live in a country where Wagner's music has never been performed publiclly. NEVER. (We tend to take the whole subject rather seriously, but hey...)
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It's a fine look into Howard's life. Rent it. Now.
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England sucks. You can't win a war without us unspohisticated farting yanks there to save your ass. Instead
of kissing up to that old dyke queen you have you'd be doing a sieg hiel to the Fuhrer right now if it wasn't for
America defending your ass. We're colonizing Mars and you so-called sophisticated people are still worshipping a
Queen who pays little or no taxes. Princess Di? Who cares about that spoiled bitch? So what if she died in a car
crash? That rich spoiled bitch could never stop whining, I'm glad the paparazzi shut her up. America is 2-0 against
your poor excuse for a country. Revolutionary War not a war? What the fuck kind of history textbooks were you
reading in school? The war lasted 7 years and hundreds of thousands of people died in it. We were on the side of
right and beat your ass. The English broke a couple of Nazi codes? So fucking what? Neville Chamberlain, the
typical English coward, chose to appease Hitler prior to the war by giving the Nazis land. What a brilliant idea!
Ever see Braveheart? A bunch of Scottish hillibilles armed with clubs and hammers defeated your army. You
English think you so much better than everyone, not just us Americans but also the Irish, Indians and the rest of
the world for that matter. The biggest mistake America ever made was dropping the bomb on Hiroshima, we
should have dropped it on London instead. We wouldn't have so many whiny British actors in movies today. They
only good thing that ever come out of your shitty little island was the Spice Girls. -
Arnold would totally ROCK as King Conan. Get a good script, put Ridley Scott in the director's chair and GO!! Just don't forget Basil Poledouris: his soundtrack for the first film was nothing less then astounding. Oh, and golgo-14? One word--PROZAK!!
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Looks like you take the prize for biggest moron, golgo-14.
Now, I respect the American people, but sometimes I just can't stand the small portion of you who seem to think that the U.S.A. is the most important thing in the world, ever.
"We're colonizing Mars and you so-called sophisticated people are still worshipping a Queen who pays little or no taxes"
Uhh, colonizing Mars? Time to put down that copy of Amazing science, pal. And at least the British didn't elect someone who can't even keep his libido in check and has to hump everything in sight (in case you don't get who I'm referencing to, it's your 'esteemed' president). He's supposed to be the most powerful man in the world, yet he uses his office like a brothel.
"The English broke a couple of Nazi codes? So fucking what? Neville Chamberlain, the typical English coward, chose to appease Hitler prior to the war by giving the Nazis land. What a brilliant idea!"
At least England decided to take a stand and fight the Nazis rather than hiding behind an isolationist policy like the US did. You seem to forget that in both world wars you guys came in after half the war had been fought, and while I don't discount the fact that without the US the war wouldn't have been won, the simple fact is that if they entered in 1939 like most countries the war could've ended much sooner.
"Ever see Braveheart? A bunch of Scottish hillibilles armed with clubs and hammers defeated your army."
Ever hear of the War of 1812? A relatively new land called Canada with a very small population armed with a few rifles kicked your American asses. I guess your textbooks left that one out too.
Ever hear of Vietnam? I'm sure you have. It's the war where the sophisticated, awe-inspiring might of the US military was defeated by peasants hiding in a jungle riding bicycles.
In the future, golgo, when you start picking on another country's faults, first look a little closer to home. -
Conan - Luv it - 'Conan, what is best in life?' - 'Destvoy your enemies! Dvive zem avay before you und hear za lamentation of de vimmin!' - Oh yeah, Golgo: You put the same message in a few other talkbacks - guess you never had a woman, eh?
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RAMS BABY!!!SUPAHBOWL CHAMP-EE-ONS!!!!!!OH HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
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Arnold so totally sucks now.
If you make Conan the King, recast.
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As an American, ignorant, bigoted nationalistic rants like those spouted out above by Golgo-14 make me sick.
Golgy-boy you should leave your trailer park,get out in the world an take a look around. Maybe then you'll see that we (humanity) have a lot more in common that not. It's people like you that cause problems between nations, religions, creeds and races. Try learning, through first hand experience, what others are like. Then maybe you can make reasoned statements about other cultures.
To the rest of you, please remember - the Golgos are only a small portion of America, thank God. -
I have to start off by commenting on Golgo 14's rant(and the accompanying outrage).First of all,it was silly and misinformed,but I still laughed like hell at it.For fuck's sake,I'd print it out if I knew how to do just that section without all the whiners along with it.So he's overzealous,he likes America,you know what? So do I.I can't damn the guy for having dumb ideas because at least he presented them in a funny,although tasteless way.As for a new Conan movie,personally I'd be worried about bringing in Arnold again.End of Days was entertaining and the first Conan was excellent,but there might be a little too much Mr.Freeze in the old boy.I'm more on the side of the great Frank Frazetta who said(in an old Comics Interview magazine) that they could find guys like Conan should be,guys he knew,in Brooklyn or somewhere else.Hulking,scarred killers.They might not be great actors,but was Arnold?Plus Milius used to be great,Big Wednesday is awesome,but who knows where his mind's at after being bottled up by the Hollywood shitmill.I'll end this superlong post by adding if it weren't for Black Sabbath,I'd agree with Golgo on dropping a present on London.P.SI still like Spike Lee to direct Spider-Man!
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