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BATMAN 5 aka YEAR ONE director talk...

Published at:  Jan 26, 2000 6:39:34 PM CST

Hey folks, Harry here and a little bird of prey just flew in to tell me that Warner Brothers.... aka Lorenzo DiBonaventura.... is currently talking to.... Darren Aronofsky to helm the next BATMAN film. Darren brought us PI and has been attached to PROTEUS, which is a story about a U.S. sub crew in WWII that has to fight the Germans as well as some sort of Monster. Aronofsky would be an interesting angle to take on BATMAN... kind of like if you brought in SPIKE JONZE or GUY RITCHIE or DAVID FINCHER. It would be one of those... turn your head at an angle... switch to the opposite angle.... scratch the scalp... then go, "Hmmm... that's interesting." Personally, I hope they attach a director before the screenplay is complete so that they limit the amount of roundtable corporate second guessing to a mere spit in a bucket. Now as far as I know... Warners still doesn't have a screenwriter in place for BATMAN YEAR ONE and are continuing to explore takes on a BATMAN BEYOND film... though production on a BATMAN BEYOND film will probably wait till Keanu is free from his MATRIX duties... If Warners still wants him after those. Well... that's the latest.



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  • Jan 26, 2000 6:43:06 PM CST

    Batman's Brain on the 4-5-6

    by mostholy

    Am I first? Well, whoop-de-doo. Could be a very interesting choice - from the Pi DVD commentary , the director seems pretty legit. But, until I see something a little more big budget than Pi, I can't really comment. Sounds like it might be fanboy speculation...

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  • Jan 26, 2000 6:51:04 PM CST

    As long as...

    by rocksteady

    Joel Schumacher isn't directing, I'll stand in line for a new Batman flick...

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:01:22 PM CST

    Hollywood still does it backwards...

    by kikstad

    I wish the Powers That Be would focus on the SCRIPT first, since story matters above all else. But if this latest rumor is true, I think that's good news. This guy would make an awesome director for the Batman project -- I loved PI. (And hey, wouldn't it be cool to see a black-and-white Batman film!!! But I digress). Let Joel Schumacher do his LOST GIRLS movie and bring in a cool visual director that treats the Batman material with dignity. -- Nick

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:17:22 PM CST

    Yes! No more Shoemacher, no more Uma Thurmon, no more S&M outfit

    by cassius the evil

    The downside to this, of course, is that instead Shoemacher is directing a "Lost Boys" sequel. The concept? "Instead of boys, let's make it *girl* vampires!" Brilliant, Joel. Just brilliant. As long as you stay the hell away from Batman, we're happy.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:33:17 PM CST

    Darren Aronofsky

    by tony danza

    Wasn't he attached to a film adaptation of Frank Miller's Ronin?

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:35:14 PM CST

    I doubt they'd make a Batman Beyond feature.

    by niiiice

    Especially since there's going to be a feature length animated film based on Batman Beyond. Seems like Year One is the best way to go. Only it shouldn't be thought of as "Batman 5". This should exist completely independent and unrelated to the beleagured disastrous franchise. Like a chance to start over. Hopefully this means it'll resemble the "realistic" feel that Batman Year One had....That's right, even though it IS a comic, it was still realistic...

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  • Let's play a NEW game. Instead of trying to decide who is going to direct, let's just speculate on who will be ran through the rumor mill next!

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:43:20 PM CST

    Story first. Director second

    by doctor x

    Ever read "Gotham by Gaslight" by Mike Magnolia? I would make a Bat-Man movie like that, and I was doing year one, I would give it a real retro look. Personaly, i think if they set Bat-man in the 40's it would give it an even more Gothic feel to it. Anyway, the maltise falcon was supposed to be directed by someone else, but he wouldnt touch it. Than a no name saw it and it became a hit. I dont care who directs it. I just want to make sure that its a good story.....I still dont want schuemacher touching it, though

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  • Jan 26, 2000 7:51:23 PM CST

    Forget Batman... give us WATCHMEN!!!

    by chrisknight

    I read Alan Moore's WATCHMEN ten years ago this month for the first time. It *really* played around with my head... had to read that bad boy about 2-3 times before I felt I could understand all the nuances going on, get it just *right*. That was about the time that Terry Gilliam was discussing producing and directing a big-screen version of WATCHMEN. There was a script at one time, it even had the pirate story in it!! Robert DeNiro was being discussed to play the second Nite Owl (though maybe he could play the first one now? :-) Can you imagine if they tried to make that today? Seeing a live-action Owlship racing across the Antarctic, or Dr. Manhattan's origin sequence? The part where Rorschach tells the doctor EVERYTHING (you know what I'm talking about here if you've read the book). A WATCHMEN flick would do everything for the superhero film genre that it needs right now: make these characters believable, make people THINK about themselves and the world around them, about the choices they make in their lives and the repercussions from them, about just "being kind to one another." And... THERE WOULD NEVER BE A SEQUEL!!!!! :-)

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  • Jan 26, 2000 8:39:45 PM CST

    aronofski great choice;Harlan Ellison Screenplay;Forget young Ba

    by buzz maverik

    Aronofski is one of the best ways to go, if he wants to do something like this. Hopefully, they'll pay him enough and treat him right. Next step, hire someone who can really write like Shane Black, Lem Dobbs or old Buzz here to do the script and pay 'em enough so they'll want to. Or here's another idea, offbeat yes, but the guy writes better than anybody else in the world: Harlan Ellison! Seriously, they'd be lucky to get him. Casting for Batman isn't that big a deal. All you need is a guy who fits the suit and the only requirement is that he be offbeat enough to dress up like a bat. Let's face it, George Clooney was too cool to dress up like a bat. Michael Keaton and Val Kilmer you can believe. My choice: David Duchovny. Shelf the year one crap and do a good Batman movie.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:01:45 PM CST

    On Watchmen.

    by human tornado

    DeNiro was rumored to be the first choice for Rorshack, not Nite Owl. Watchmen is the best comic book I

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:07:07 PM CST

    Duchovny

    by human tornado

    So I wrote Rorschach wrong, sue me. Duchovny

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:22:22 PM CST

    Pi sucked

    by iron man

    Did anyone else think that Pi was slow, confusing and unentertaining? What has Darren A. done since?

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:24:13 PM CST

    40's!!!

    by ben murphy

    This is to whoever said Batman should take place in teh 40's. Your idea fucking rocks!!! Batman would kick so much ass if it took place back then. Get rid of all that neon crap and make it real dark, make it a noir film. It would rock. He'd have less stupid gadgets, and the villian could be a real Batman villain, just changed to fit the time. A young joker maybe. It would kick ass, I'm telling you. Just no more of that neon shit. The only problem, or maybe it's not a problem, it could be cool, is the batmobil.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:36:33 PM CST

    Well, I for one am happy

    by stephen dedalus

    In PI, I thought Darren Aronofsky demonstrated more precision and depth than Burton, and more control and stability than Schumaker. I am quite pleased to see that Warner Bros. got it through their thick heads to allow someone with TALENT to helm the next Caped Crudaser film, rather than someone with a big house. Yes I said yes I said yes

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:43:43 PM CST

    Aronofsky

    by branmakmorn

    The director also wrote a comic book version of PI so he is somewhat familiar with adapting the medium. I hope this is true and in black and white!

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  • Jan 26, 2000 9:51:15 PM CST

    PLEASE MAKE bruce wayne

    by malkovich

    WHy dont we get together make our own studio and get bruce wayne going. They need to make it. hey give batman a breather and make bruce wayne then after a 5 year run they make year 1 by then it will be bigger than WHo wants to be a millionare.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 10:30:54 PM CST

    Batman Is Dead

    by jake the snake

    Instead of actually trying to create a new franchise, the suits are trying to continue one they killed 5 years ago. If this terribly ill-concieved project is made, who should direct it? I say go back to the basics, go with Tim Burton. Giovanni Ribisi should play the young Bruce Wayne. Story? How about having it take place just prior to the events in Batman? This'll be a few years before Batman fights Joker and co. Gotham doesn't know what to make of him, vigilante hero or demonic creature of the night? Batman's nemesis would be the Reaper, a vigilante/serial killer who cares less about protecting the innocent than satisfying his own bloodlust. GCPD, in part because they're in Karl Grissom's back pocket and in part because they're afraid anarchy is beginning to reign on the streets, constructs a special task force to deal with the onslaught of new vigilantes. The entire movie then will be Bruce Wayne/ Batman trying to learn how to fight crime while at the same time trying to bring the merciless Reaper to justice and running away from the cops. The new Batgirl will be Christina Ricci, she'll play an ambitious street cop who trnasfers to the new task force as a means of advancing her own career. Ricci hooks up with Wayne during the day but unwittingly hunts him down during the night. I'm sure Aronofsky is a very talented guy but let's see hims direct a more conventional picture before we hand him over the reigns of Batman.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 10:34:12 PM CST

    Giovanni Ribisi as Batman? Might work

    by scott_summers

  • Jan 26, 2000 10:37:57 PM CST

    Director of "The Crow"

    by konine

    Yeah, this guy might not be bad. Does anyone know what the director of "The Crow", and "Dark City" is up to? He could direct the next Batman also.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 10:48:08 PM CST

    Ooooo....Batman, old style!

    by all thumbs

    Batman set in the past would be plain ol' awesome. Setting it in the 40's is a good idea: all the heros are gone to war, Gotham needs someone to protect the homefront. Another cool setting would be the 20's during Prohibition. Have Batman fighting gangsters and stuff like that. (And no, I don't read the comics, so if he wasn't created until way after then, I'm sorry, but it would still be cool.) Isn't there a character that holds a dummy of an Al Capone-ish character. I always thought that would be the creepiest villain to see onscreen.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 10:58:32 PM CST

    Comic translations

    by beige babapapa

    Got in late on this thread chaps, but Watchman MUST be made, and Batman's Killing Joke, just for the ending in which they both laugh out loud together ....truly one of the most poignant moments in comic history.
    Finally, if some bastard doesn't review 2000AD comic for ABC Warriors, Slaine, Halo Jones, Harlem Heroes/Inferno or Flesh, they need shooting ....

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  • Jan 26, 2000 11:09:55 PM CST

    Re: Batman in the '40's

    by sith lord jesus

    HELL yeah. With a good script I could seriously see that working. And ya wanna know what else would work? RED RAIN. That's right, the Batman vs Dracula work (I will NOT call it a comic book) that came out a few years back. Extremely well written, dark as the inside of a mine shaft at midnight and above all it treated all the characters with respect, thus keeping the whole thing from devolving into ABBOT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN. The rub is that it needs to be filmed in black and white--that would add to the overall ambiance. Now who could direct? Hmmmm. . .Scorsese. Or Woo; perhaps Raimi. . .it's a tough call. Another good Bat-film idea? GOTHAM BY GASLIGHT, which was set in the Victorian era, and if I recall correctly involved the Dark Knight going after Jack the Ripper. Again, an excellently-done story, as is SPEEDING BULLETS, yet another DC masterpiece which would make a kick-ass film. But what I suppose I'm really trying to say here, to get back on topic, is that to really revive the BATMAN thing, one must go beyond the whole over-commercial "franchise" (how I hate that word when applied to film) mentality. Instead, tell stories, make films, about BATMAN. They don't all have to be interconnected--this isn't a TV series! They don't even have to take place in Gotham. But they should all be interesting--worth your hard earned cash money to watch--and they should all be first and formost A-list films with great acting, top-notch scripts and directing and gobs of top drawer SFX goodness. THAT'S the kind of BATMAN film I want to see! Anything less deserves a batarang up the grand wazoo.

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  • Jan 26, 2000 11:15:08 PM CST

    Yes, the ventriloquist!

    by all thumbs

    I could see so much being done with that character, especially if the movie still has some dark qualities. (Darkness in a movie is good, as long as it isn't too overpowering.) There's nothing creepier than a doll (or dummy) looking alive and menacing. Give the dummy a chance to murder people, and hell, even give the dummy his own death. It could add a definite "Twilight Zone" quality to the film.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:14:31 AM CST

    Aronofsky might be a good choice, Bruce Wayne dead...

    by fabio2

    I'm not hugely familiar with Aronofsky's work, but I think he might be a good choice to direct Batman 5, certainly if it's an adaptation of Year One (which it most likely will be), which Ihe's probably better suited to.

    As for the Bruce Wayne TV series, it's still looking DOA, unless some miracles are happening behind the scenes.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:22:21 AM CST

    Yeah, like THIS will make any money.

    by tiresias

    Has the world gone insane, or is it just me? First of all, have any of you ACTUALLY READ "Year One"? Because apparently TPTB at Warner Bros. haven't. If they had, they'd know that they're looking at a movie with no super-villains, and very little action or special effects. It's urban, gritty, crime drama stuff that'd be borderline R rated. YES, that's what WE the FANS want, but would it make any money? NO. Think about it. Darren Aronwhatever has made one little indie film. He has NO POWER. Warners is just looking to lead another lamb to the slaughter, someone JON "EVIL INCARNATE" PETERS can walk all over and turn into the most hated director this side of Schumacher. Do you REALLY think Warners will let their billion dollar franchise be turned into something actually COOL? Do you REALLY think they'll respect the source material? I mean, come on! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE GUANO. They will play it safe, and want a BRIGHTLY COLORED TOY LINE. Darren, I suggest you start RUNNING and DON'T LOOK BACK.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:27:07 AM CST

    Kingdom Come

    by chrisknight

    Warner's Animation Department should do a big-budget feature film adaptation of KINGDOM COME. Have the voices from the existing Batman/Superman cartoons. Yeah I know it conflicts with Batman Beyond, but imagine how BEAUTIFUL this would be! Just gotta wonder who would do Magog's voice :-) Either Kingdom Come or the New Gods flick we've heard about once or twice. Give Warner Animation their day in the sun!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:16:56 AM CST

    Hey... Harry... learn how to... use...

    by zeylan

    the elipses... correctly, and not in ... every other sentence... you fat moron.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:22:45 AM CST

    Pi was great but ripped hard on Tetsuo..

    by lickerish

    influences are integral to film and Darren borrowed much from Shinya Tsukamoto...If he did a Batman could he contain the pathos? The repression?... Who knows, Pi functioned without much restraint, and if Requiem is about addiction..there's plenty of stunted longing to deal with..plus Aronofsky seems to have a good rapport with Gotham...Giovanni Ribisi is eerie-hot.. a bit like Genesis P-Orridge he might work..or maybe play young Joker...while Bruce Wayne could be Ed Norton or Jude Law or Fred Prinze

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:26:01 AM CST

    Ronin (and Clint Mansell)

    by iamdeadfish

    I liked Pi... for the most part. From it I could definitely tell that Darren Aronofsky was one that I would have to keep a close eye on for some killer flicks! According to Clint Mansell's web site (clintatthecontrols.com) his next film is called "Requiem For A Dream." Clint (former PWEI member) did the Pi soundtrack and is still working with him on his new movie. Anyhow, I did hear about the Ronin movie, and as far as I knew Frank Miller himself was working on the script. People, if you haven't read this comic... then you MUST go get it!!! It's great!!! Even a lot of my friends who aren't into comics liked it. But if you watch Pi, then read the comic, you can totally tell that Aronofsky is the man for the job!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:32:38 AM CST

    load up on guns, bring your friends

    by tommy five-tone

    that's EXACTLY what i'll do if giovanni fuck-knuckle ribisi is allowed anywhere a batman movie! i will march on WB and start FUCKING FIREBOMBING THE JOINT!!! this creep's already ruined every halfway decent project he's gotten close to - don't let up him screw up a potentially sweet batman movie. the best thing for all concerned would be for him to star opposite jenna jameson and jeff stryker in 'the wadd squad'. five-tone out.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:42:03 AM CST

    Alex Proyas ("The Crow Guy")

    by iamdeadfish

    According to the good 'ol IMDB, he's the writer for and upcoming film called "The Tenth Victim." He hasn't done that much, but he is a director that I want to see more from. Alex Proyas, Darren Aronofsky(Pi), Scott Reynolds(The Ugly), Jean-Pierre Jeunet(City of the Lost Children), and (like it or not) Vincenzo Natali(Cube). (getting back on topic) I think most of these Directors could do an interesting Batman! (but I think I'd wrather see something original from them.)

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  • Jan 27, 2000 2:05:27 AM CST

    I've been saying this for years -- FILM NOIR BATMAN!!!

    by dennis

    He's a detective, first and foremost! Film Noir, like the Long Halloween would be realistic and PERFECT. I say reteam the fellas who did L.A. Confidential. You don't get a better writer/director duo than that!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 2:23:12 AM CST

    JOEL'S BATMAN RULED!!

    by mattman

    Just kidding! They were shit Thought I'd turn some heads though, hehehehe.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 3:16:51 AM CST

    batman plot

    by norcal

    A few years ago a friend of mine(another aspiring film maker) was working on a fan script for a Batman movie in which Batman accidentally killed a bunch of orphans, and ended up going insane. I never read the comics(I wasn't allowed to in my family, we all sat around watching PBS) so I don't know if that was ever a plot, but I thought it was pretty cool. But, okay, here's my question. Why does the plot have to come from the comics? Why can't the plot originate with only the character of Batman, and the setting of Gotham intact? Seems an awful lot could be done without just stealing old comic plots.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 4:16:31 AM CST

    Jude Law would be a good Bruce Wayne

    by maltbyrob

    What do you all think? He's got the looks, he's young, and he could pull off the charm no problem. Only problem is that he pouts quite a lot in Gattica. Has anyone seen this guy do some serious Brooding in a film?

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  • Jan 27, 2000 4:57:20 AM CST

    It won't work...

    by psyberia

    Warner Bros. bringing in a director like Aronofsky is like hiring The Blair Witch Project directors for the next Lethal Weapon movie. The executives are pulling back, as they always do, because they want to do it right. Taking a risk by hiring a new director with a small resume is not their forte. Joel Shoecrapper is antzy about returning to the audiences good side. They may just give in and rehire the bastard. I don't see this development falling through. But if I'm wrong, woooohhooooooo!!!!!! I'd be delighted to see what Aranofsky could do.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 9:59:12 AM CST

    Alex Proyas next direction

    by sabonis

    He is planning an adaption of Edgar Allen Poe's Masque of the Red Death, which in his hands, should be really amazing.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 10:00:08 AM CST

    Hey Mr. Avronikisy (sp)?

    by samthelion

    Hey Mr. Aaronovsky,
    I saw that movie Proteus before. It was called The Keep when Michael Mann directed it in 1983. Yeah, I know it was a castle. But its still the whole "Nazis and Monsters" deal which didn't sell then and sounds like another deep rising with grainy cinematography and a pill-popping motif that won't sell now. Hate to say this but I thought PI was one of the more annoying films of the last few years. It's a good concept but dude just couldn't keep his damn camera still. My thoughts, discard them as you will.

    PS - Ed Norton as young Batman. Give him a chance to play cool. I think he'd (probably wisely) pass it up to do real acting.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:17:23 PM CST

    NO!!!!!!! FUK THAT SHIAT!!!!! No MORE BATMAN!!!

    by bickle_td

    NO!!!!!!!!!!! I'm on my knees!!!!!!!!!!! no more Batman movies. I don't care who directs. They raped Batman! ! ! ! No more Batman movies untill I get to direct one, till then STOP THE MADNESS!!!! They will all stink until I'm the man behind the camera!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:20:22 PM CST

    YEAR ONE you nincampoops!

    by damien667

    From reading the posts it's painfully obvious how few of you BATMAN "fans" have ever picked up the original comic books. Maybe some of you have and are just ignoring some of the best writing ever done in a fictional series of "funny books"; here, specifically, I am speaking of BATMAN: YEAR ONE. Turning this into a movie would be one of the best moves WB could do for itself and the flailing BATMAN franchise (with assets over $500 million in combined revenue, however, it's hard to call BATMAN "flailing"). YEAR ONE is the grit, the dirt and the darkness that is what Batman's entire character development is all about. It's not about "cool" gadgets (and I use that word VERY loosely), or about jumping off buildings, or about fighting super villians. It's about a crime organization willing to destroy all of Gotham for a price. It's about a tortured, young, determined Bruce Wayne who holds a tremendous amount of pain, yet can conceive of no way to channel his emotions positively. Hell, in his first bout with a criminal, he gets the crap beaten out of him! People forget that Bruce is just some guy with a goofy mask and cape. He doesn't know the word "Krypton," nor can he conceive of the notion of flying without falling. It's the kind of script M. Night Shymalan's UNBREAKABLE approaches. But it's a character we've all come to love, yet have lost the understanding of his roots. Bruce didn't have Batmobile in the beginning. He had this big, empty house and Alfred-- all to himself, but had no idea what to do with it. He just knew he wanted to stop crime and evil. It's the kind of story that GOOD movies are made from. There aren't a ton of cool gadgets or chases in silly cars with sillier weapons. There is a VERY cool scene involving 30 cops ready to kill Bruce, and him stuck in a burning building. Go to your local comic book store and pick-up the YEAR ONE anthology (it encompassed four issues WAY back in 1987 and was written by Frank Miller). Maybe Anthony Minghella should direct this, considering his creepy, dark work with MR. RIPLEY. Otherwise, I open this assignment to those with a knowledge of the source material, and a willingness to make a movie that will be rated-R and won't draw in those annoying 10-16 year olds who kick the back of my seat in EVERY DAMN MOVIE!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:38:13 PM CST

    Yeah, the whole yr. one thing sounds cool, but...

    by knight says"ni"

    KEEP BEN ASSLICK AWAY FROM IT!!!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:42:07 PM CST

    Damien6667....

    by psyberia

    Don't want to start an argument, but I *did* read YEAR ONE back in the early 90's. Every Batman fan out there more than likely has read it or heard of it, because it was written by Dark Knight Returns' Frank Miller. Hell, that was the only reason why I picked it up. It's not safe around here to prove how much you know and rag on the majority of talkbackers. But you are way off on calling these "the original comic books". You'd have to go way back to the 1930's for those. :)

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:49:29 PM CST

    Aronofsky Told A Group of Us After Seeing "Pi..."

    by smilin'jackruby

    That he was headed to Hollywood to make the first scary movie since "The Exorcist" because no one was doing anything interesting horror-wise. Honestly, he was so smug about "Pi" that I haven't cared about him since. Maybe that's a bad thing, but oh, well.

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  • I think Russell Crowe is one of the few mainstream actors with the toughness and intensity to pull off a real noir take on Batman/Bruce Wayne. The idea of Giovanni Ribisi is ridiculous. When Gladiator comes out, people who don't already know it are going to recognize Crowe as a real star. Ridley Scott is a real pro and would make sure a good script and great execution would be done on a Batman flick, noir-style. Proyas is less experienced, and has not withstood the test of time like Scott, but is obviously an amazing talent who understands noir/gothic genre, comics, fx, and solid filmmaking. Anyway, that's my two-cents.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:28:16 PM CST

    Ed Norton for Batman!!... Kev Spacey for the Joker!!

    by tall taff

    How come everybody keeps pluggin' David Duchovny? He was second choice for the role in Batman And Robin, but he got turned down 'cause his nose was too big. Poor bugger. Why not try Ben Affleck or even Ed Norton for the role of a younger Batman. We saw how brutal Norton was in American History X and again in Fight Club. And as for The Joker, you could only want Kev Spacey.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:31:30 PM CST

    The next step for the BATMAN franchise is a TV series on UPN

    by frenchie

    With Fred Prinze Jr as the Bat and Tori Spelling as Batgirl.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:35:03 PM CST

    Director for the next Batman Movie

    by bond 007

    I don't care who the next director is as long as it's not schumacher. I'm more concerned with the direction that warner bros takes batman. The story must be good. The studio can't rely on big name stars to make a good movie. I know that everyone blames schumacher for the demise of the Bat franchise,The studio execs should also be blamed because those dummies approved the garbage that schumacher put on the screen. Bat fans beware of the studios plans for batman.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:51:33 PM CST

    4 words: clint eastwood dark knight

    by gigo

    it's time

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  • Jan 27, 2000 4:05:33 PM CST

    TO WB: WOULD YOU STUPID FUKZ FORGET ABOUT "BATMAN" ALREADY DAMMI

    by sexualchocolate1

    I am sooooo sick of all these talks and rumors about some new bat-flick, I'VE HAD ENOUGH! Why don't you peeps over at Warner Bros. stop it with all these bat-sequels (and prequels) and stop it with Batman before you make its franchise COMEPLETELY unrepairable! WB, if you're smart, go with the goddamn TV series, then spin-it off into another feature film, kinda like what The X-Files did for the movie. And I could care less if they had Leonardo DiCaprio or James Van Der Beek playin' him, the idea is way better than coming out with yet another bat-flick, which is what EVERYONE already knows you jack-asses probably will do! *sigh of relief* Nuff said y'all...

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  • Jan 27, 2000 5:55:23 PM CST

    Arononfsky directed Magnum PI?

    by zeno

    Man, he IS great!

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  • It's flailing. There, see how easy it was? Seriously though, I can't beleive you looked at one side of the coin without pausing to consider the other. You can say Batman and Robin was a 100 million dollar blockbuster, but the fact that it costs 120 million to make, barring the tens of millions more for marketing and advertisement must be taken into consideration. And don't discount the fact that the movie had a monster opening weekend and saw awfully huge weekly depreciations, indicating that it was a dud with audiences.

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  • Jan 28, 2000 2:56:13 AM CST

    5 words: Clint Eastwood Alfred The Butler

    by zeno

    New catchphrase: (Through clenched teeth) "You rang?..."

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  • Ed Norton for Green Arrow, Kevin Spacey for the Joker, yeah, Vince Vaughn for Harvey Dent/Two-Face, but I still think the best candidate fro Batman is Russell Crowe.

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  • Jan 28, 2000 3:45:14 PM CST

    Batman Year One discussion board

    by sabonis

    http://www.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=BatmanYearOne

    you just need to sign up for gamers. looking to discuss all aspects of possible new films:actors, directors, villains, what is best plan--Year One, Batman Beyond, Bruce Wayne.
    Hope fans will come and we can start a cool site.

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  • Jan 28, 2000 5:03:02 PM CST

    FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!

    by trashcanman

    FUCKING A! Darren Aronofsky is maybe the best new director working today, and I'm saying this one the basis of only one feature film. It's about time someone realized Joel Shumaker (probably misspelled that, but oh well) completely ruined the Batman franchise.

    P.S. - If Aronofsky doesn't work out, may I suggest George Romero? I could see Batman battling an army of the undead...that would be cool...-TCM

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  • Jan 29, 2000 4:01:15 AM CST

    Batman is inherently funny!

    by bono

    BATMAN is supposed to be kind of silly...I mean, only a complete idiot would run around in that outfit. Burton TRIED to address that by making the suit black, but still, that dopey helmet was a serious drawback. At least when Adam West ran around town in that grey underwear, it made SENSE because his version of Batman existed in a completely stupid world. Even Miller's DARK KNIGHT was silly...it was over-the-top and satirical. Any treatment of Batman has to address the ludicrous nature of the material. Suspension of disbelief is easy when you read a comic; for one thing, it's a COMIC designed for kids. When you actually get a human being running around in that outfit....yikes! If you've read this far you must realize I have no point. I'm just waiting for the drugs to take hold....

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  • Jan 29, 2000 10:31:15 AM CST

    Batman 5

    by tall taff

    Give the project to some guy who can ablely handle the franchise. i.e back to Tim Burton. If not him, then Peter Jackson, anybody but Joel Schumacher. And how about Ed Norton for the role of the cape crusader? We saw how he manages to balance both profound intelligence and fierce brutality in American History X and Fight Club. And for the villains you couldn't do any better than Kevin Spacey and Robert Carlyle.

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  • Jan 29, 2000 8:07:10 PM CST

    Dark Knight Returns

    by judge dredd

    Hollywood should be concentrating its efforts on bringing this ground breaking series to the screen either as an animated film (Russell Crow as Bruce Wayne/Batman) OR if it was live action then how about George Lasenby (James Bond No.2). Now don't scoff, if you,ve seen him lately he LOOK EXACTLY like Burce Wayne from the comic. You heard it here first!!!!

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  • Jan 29, 2000 9:18:42 PM CST

    Another rip off

    by stonie

    It is easy to see when a one time good idea gets turnt into a series from hell....they should have stopped at batman returns.....Tim Burtons look at it was the best and thats the bottom line.

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  • Jan 30, 2000 12:52:20 AM CST

    TIM BURTON IS NOT GOD

    by jd233

    People can we can get over this Tim Burton thing. Batman 1 kicked ass, but let's be real here. Batman Returns was dissapointing(Keaton is hardly seen and Devito looked ridiculous, although Pheiffer was great)and led to his departure/removal and also gave us Schumaker. Nuff said.
    Year One is a great idea, keep Joel away and put David Boreanzs (sp?) or Jude Law in the suit. Keep Affleck away he's a little too dorky for the role. The dude from ANGEL would be awesome but i dont know if he would do it as his role is so similiar to young Bruce already.

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  • Jan 31, 2000 3:12:04 PM CST

    The Dark Night Returns

    by konine

    Forget Year One, move on to Dark Night......get Frank Miller to do the script...David Fincher to direct.....Harrison Ford to play Bruce Wayne/Batman...Pacino as Harvey Dent/Two-Face....Nicholson as Joker (who else?)...someone young as Superman...Anthony Hopkins as Green Arrow...David Fincher to direct...my two cents

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  • Jan 31, 2000 3:12:24 PM CST

    The Dark Night Returns

    by konine

    Forget Year One, move on to Dark Night......get Frank Miller to do the script...David Fincher to direct.....Harrison Ford to play Bruce Wayne/Batman...Pacino as Harvey Dent/Two-Face....Nicholson as Joker (who else?)...someone young as Superman...Anthony Hopkins as Green Arrow...David Fincher to direct...my two cents

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  • Jan 31, 2000 5:06:24 PM CST

    MICHAEL KEATON = BATMAN

    by xycko

    enough said....

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  • Feb 01, 2000 2:17:15 PM CST

    Keanu will NOT will not do BATMAN BEYOND, and here's why.

    by leobluhm

    First, let's consider the background premise that this movie would work on. According to the animated series, the new Batman is in high school. While he may still look youthful, Keanu does not look like a high school student anymore. Strike one for Mr. Reeves. Next, it seems that right now they may be more excited about pursuing the YEAR ONE aspect, anyway. If this is the case, the proposed BATMAN BEYOND movie may not see the light of day for several years. By this point, not only would that definitely make Mr. Reeves too old to portray the role, it would be almost assured that they would have a younger star in mind. They would replace him as the front runner to try and cash in on a younger, hotter star-of-the-moment. Strike two. Finally, consider his upcoming schedule. He is going to be tied up for the next three years with at least two other films, on top of his commitment to the two MATRIX sequels. These sequels almost certainly guarantee that he would still be a bankable star by the time his schedule would be free. However, having him play a character that, for all intents and purposes, would be very similar to his MATRIX role, could backfire at the box office. Too much of a good thing leaves a bad taste in the movie-going public (i.e. the BATMAN franchise as it stands now), and it's going to be hard enough selling a new BATMAN flick to audiences without contending with that. Warner cannot afford to screw up this franchise any more, and they realize that. Strike three, he's out. I think that the noir-route is definitely the way to go with this franchise. They need a movie that is fresh, exciting, and different. That means my $'s on YEAR ONE. I'm not going to speculate on who would play any of the roles in this, because it would depend on the script and the story vein they would be working with. And an R-rating would be kick-ass, but that would be a pipe dream, i'm afraid. As far as a BATMAN BEYOND movie, I'm probably going to get roasted for my opinion on casting, but here goes. If they follow the premise of the animated series, I believe that Terry McGinnis should be played by someone younger than Keanu. Freddie Prinze, Jr. would be my choice. He's young enough, dashingly handsome in a young superhero kinda way, and he deserves a better chance than any of those bad-script teen romantic-comedies are going to give him. As for an older Bruce Wayne, how about Clint Eastwood? That's just my opinion. Roast away.

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