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AMC says of tonight’s installment, “Cornered”:
Skyler makes an unsettling discovery. Walter, Jr. pushes his dad into a questionable purchase. Jesse offers Mike some unexpected help.
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* Tonight’s episode prominently features no fewer than two coolers full of sandwiches.
* The excellent first scene of 4.6 is a sequel to the first scene of 4.4.
* First line of the episode: “No! No! No no no no no!!”
* There’s an excellent chance tonight’s installment will be remembered as the “Tucker” episode.
* We learn this week that Mike the ex-cop not only has not lost his right ear, he has access to at least 15 “good operators.”
* The second scene begins with a photo of Gale Boetticher. This scene is not set in Hank’s home.
* Most memorable line from scene three? “As is.”
* Tonight’s episode puts Skylar on a collision course with the 1992 Cadastral Survey.
* Scene four is set at Loyola’s.
* There’s a lot of Jesse and Junior this week, but no Hank, Marie or Saul.
* Students of Spanish can use this episode at several junctures to impress their purely Anglophone friends.
* One phrase possibly employed: “Estas listo para dalicar?”
* How does it end? SUPERSPOILER: Skylar ruins everything.
10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.
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A nice big meal of Breaking Bad, and a nice cool glass of Larry David to wash it down with every evening. Loving it. great season so far.
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What the fuck does dalicar mean?? What the fuck is a Cadastral Survey?? Who the fuck is "Tucker"?? What the fuck are "good operators"?? What/where the fuck is "Loyola's"?? Worst spoilers ever--none of them mean anything!! Hey, here's a spoiler for the next episode of Damages--there will be a Bean Shaver featured prominently, next to a Step Soldier fitted with a 1985 Endometer. Barry Charleston may or may not end up being involved. See how annoyin that is!?!? Ass.
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I'm dying to know what Skyler is up to. For sure she's going to piece together that Gale's killer is involved with Walt. And when she figures that out... she's going to crawl up Walt's ass, but good.
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. What the fuck does dalicar mean?? I was wondering myself. "Dialogue," perhaps? . What the fuck is a Cadastral Survey?? Let me answer your question with a question. Is Wikipedia broken? .Who the fuck is "Tucker"?? The one who digs. . What the fuck are "good operators"?? Ah! Precisely. . What/where the fuck is "Loyola's"?? A New Mexico eatery we'll visit more than once tonight. It's no Pollos Hermanos.
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the season has been a slow burn thus far in my opinion...maybe I'm spolied from watching the first 3 seasons in 1 big batch over a 1 week period but shit needs to start happening...last season had the Cousins...season 2 had Tuco and the cartel...Season 1 had Crazy 8 and tension over how or if he would be killed
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You get to watch the episodes early, why not be actual, easy to understand spoliers in invisotext for those who don't mind being spoiled? Or are you worried if you do that they would stop sending the screeners?
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is green.
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To your latter question? Yes. Our screeners arrive with written instructions warning us not to post spoilers.
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Im the kind of person that cant resist no matter how hard i try. I like that hercs spoilers dont make sense until after youve seen the show. It allows me the satisfy the urge yet still enjoy the episode.
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These hints are fun to read even if they don't really resemble spoilers. If you did post full blown spoilers you just know some jackass would post them in their post header just for shits and giggles.
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subtle spoilers are more interesting. e.g. i'm as curious as hell to find out about the good operators.
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and nothing has really happened. I don't mind slow pacing, but holy shit this season needs a plot. Jesse riding around all day in the car not knowing why, is a good analogy of the viewers of this show.
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Nothing has happened?! Have you not seen the last two episodes? Last week's dinner party was a moment that may have sealed Walt's fate and decided the final outcome of this series. I know there haven't been any major moments of "action" like Tuco's death, Hank's shootout with the twins or Jane's death, but this isn't "Sons of Anarchy" (another great show I love) in which there is a gun battle or shooting death nearly every episode. Anyone who's been watching "Breaking Bad" from the start knows that these two most recent episodes are among the most important, drama-filled episodes yet.
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I have a bad feeling how that is going to go, Jesse will sooner or later no longer work with Walt and may even be against him down the road. I was hoping Mike would join with Walt against Gus but who knows what is going to happen.
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No Hank this week?! No follow up on last weeks ending? No Hank investigation? Really? What is so damn important that there's no room for the follow up on only the most important plot development this season so far?
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happen in each episode , but it is always in the last 5 minutes or so. The rest has been filler. It is becoming like LOST where the only thing that happens is at the end of each episode , so that you tune in next week, then they completely ignore it and move on to something else.
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Exactly While the writers have certainly had some stall episodes in the past, but this is starting to feel like a stall season. They better take it up a gear in the second half of the season. People still have the bad taste of The Killing in their mouths, and will certainly rebel against BB if it takes a season to move the story along three episodes worth.
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the whole deal with the car wash. Do we really need an hour screen time to show Skyler is ruthless and gets what she wants? We already have 3 seasons that developed her character with those traits. Does it advance the plot in any way? No. They could have made it 5 minutes if the writers asked these questions to themselves.
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they always feel like these articles are a "I'm cool because I saw the episode first, so I'll throw some cryptic non spoilers at you to show how cool I am." if you're gonna spoil it, spoil it. or else why bother?
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http://thesuperslice.com/2011/06/21/breaking-bad-season-4-studio-photos/11-walt-explosion-11/ We know that the above photo (Walt testing some kind of huge explosive device) happens at some point in season 4. He's probably going to try to blow up Gus' car or firebomb his whole restaurant or something, and can you fucking imagine how intense that whole series of events will be? Patience, it will all pay off. If I remember correctly, season 3's first true "Holy shit!" episode came in episode 6, when Hank had Walt and Jesse trapped in their RV. I remember watching that and thinking clearly "This is the most intense thing I have ever seen on TV before." And after that things were pretty unrelenting in their bad assness, until reaching a boiling point in the last two episodes. We're at episode 6 now of season 4, so you'd HAVE to think that things are going to immensely pick up here, and keep going right through the end of the season. Walt has never really done something as elaborate and premeditated as plant some kind of high explosive in secret to try to blow up an adversary. The mercury fulminate thing was kind of fly by the seat of your pants stuff. This is full on Ted Kazcynski shit, and I couldn't be happier. They have to work him up believably to the point where he'd do something like that. You know that he's going to do some truly heinous shit at the end of this season, or else they wouldn't bother with all this slow build. It will be worth it.
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BB has always been about the slow-burn. It's a fantastic show, but it provides two very different experiences depending on your viewing. Burning through all the episodes in a relatively short period of time is like a kick to the head. You still get all the great dialogue, character moments and tension, but there's an incredible sense of momentum, which, when watched week to week, the show seems to lack. Loving the season so far (bar 'Open House'), but I can see why it could be painful having watched 3 in one burst. Also, Crazy 8 was killed in episode 2 - it wasn't really a whole season deal.
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And why is there ZERO analysis and/or commentary about this show from any of the staff writers? They only write at length about movies--and we all know that TV dramas like Breaking Bad have far surpassed almost every movie that comes out. Who wouldn't appreciate a good weekly post from Herc or someone else that was well thought out and speculative? This website is terrible, and it refuses to innovate or get better at all.
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I disagree-- Walt and Skylar fucking was a pretty big deal, and that happened in the middle of last week. We don't know the consequences, but I was still like "whoa." Victor's demise happened in the middle of the premiere. Walt buying that gun from that dude... Jesse's partying... Marie shoplifting... I guess you could read that stuff as filler, but it's character development-- for example, Marie getting caught shoplifting makes Hank see what his shitty attitude's doing to his wife, and that's why he decides to take a look at the case file instead of buying his 'minerals' on the www. That's the reason I like this show: one thing leads to another in an interesting and believable way, and not suddenly Hank being all "I'm in" when presented with case info on something that cost him his ability to walk and nearly his sanity.
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It's gonna be OK, fellas. The weekly posts Herc throws up about shows mainly exist to give people who watch them a place to have a talkback. Back when LOST was on the air there was definitely some participation and monitoring of posts on the talkbacks by ABC employees. I'm sure AMC has similar employees who at least take a look at what gets said here week to week-- hell, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that a weekly talkback for each episode of a certain series was part of the agreement which nets Herc his screeners in the first place. Ever notice how Herc gives all of AMC's shows their own page every week they're on the air? If you want indepth behind-the-scenes stuff from the actual staff of the show, AMC.com is probably your best bet, but you'll be wading through a lot of PR tripe...
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Something tells me shit is about to get heavy. I'm really, really, really hoping Walt isn't forced to kill Hank at the end of season 4 because he figures it all out. Thereby giving us our "unforgiveable" moment in which Walt has crossed the point of no return into being Truly Bad. It seems way too easy. Fingers crossed that I'm wrong. More and more I'm wondering if Walt's gonna have to fake his own death and assume the identity of Heisenberg at season's end, instead. His conversation with Saul about the man who knows how to make people disappear wasn't just there to be there... I'm thinking back to that music video at the beginning of a season 2 episode, too-- the Mexican drug lord style thing about Heisenberg and how he became such a badass and how he eventually will get killed anyway. It'd be pretty impressive if that turned out to be a prediction about something that happened way later in the series.
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If every episode consisted of non-stop chases, explosions and Hank inches away from discovering Walt, we as viewers would become desensitized and the tension wouldn't have nearly the effect it does when those scenes do materialize. While the onion peeling can be excruciating at times, it's incredibly effective. I don't see it as filler. It's a fantastic way to keep the story grounded in believability so it doesn't veer off into some ridiculously fantastical Michael Bay-esque world. As far as in-depth articles/info on each episode, if you're a Breaking Bad fan amctv.com offers a great Breaking Bad Insider Podcast (free) they do for every episode with all the key players giving brilliant insights and entertaining behind-the-scenes anecdotes. They've been doing it since season 2, I believe: http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/insider-podcast-season-4
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And I have to say, its one of the most brilliant dramas I've come across. I've only finished the first season, but from that alone, its ranged from horribly disturbing (chemical decomposition) to moving (watching Walt cope with mortality) to blatantly hilarious (attempting to steal a barrel of meth ingredients). And of course there are those times where Walt goes all Gran Torino on people using the Power of Science. Holy heck, the whole bit with mercury fulminate was fantastic. Hopefully the rest of the series is as great as the first one. I'm really looking forward to it.
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Aug. 21, 2011, 7:42 p.m. CST
It's too early to say/predict, but I don't think Gus will survive the season -- but it won't be Walter who kills him...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Remember that Gus double-crossed his Mexican cartel partner, and he also saw to it that the assassin brothers were eliminated. And now we know that the Los Pollos Hermanos shipments have been attacked by presumably Mexican gangs. Payback is about to hit Gus, and he knows this but has been willing to face the possible consequences. So Gus is not really the "big bad" of this season or the entire series. He's not the grand enemy that Walter and Jesse have to worry about. Jesse is not being groomed to go against Walter -- Gus simply recognized that Jesse is a restless young man who needs to be given a purpose; otherwise, he becomes self-destructive. Ask yourselves this: what's going to happen if (when) Gus is killed by a rival gang? Walter is going to take over. It has been said by Saul that Gus is similar to Walter. Gus recognizes this, too. Walter will take over the Los Pollos group by the end of the season -- he will finally become the legendary "Dr. Heisenberg" starting in the fifth and final season. And shit is going to hit the fan majorly next season. For example, you can easily imagine episodes set in a lawless Mexican border town next season. Walter White and Jesse Pinkman, frankly, are not "good" guys at all. (It was Jesse who admitted to himself, while going through recovery, that he's the bad guy in the story of his life.) Walter has deep-rooted anger and resentment issues, which is what makes him fascinating and real as a character. The reason why we like Breaking Bad is that these are bad people who have many sympathetic and likable traits -- which is also kind of disturbing for us the viewer to feel. But make no mistake: There have been many instances throughout the series' run when Walter and Jesse could have simply walked away from their life of crime, after they made a shitload of money, and gone legit. But neither has. And as we saw in the last episode, Walter just could not let things go when Hank thought Gale was Heisenberg and a "genius". Walter wants this drama and conflict in his life. Like Jesse, he is disturbingly self-destructive.
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Aug. 21, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST
maelstrom_zero: yes, the rest of the series is great -- the drama and intensity build up across the seasons...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
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Gus and Mike are also this way, and Jesse's buds who have worked for him -- all of these young and older men have very likable, appealing traits. But this characteristic comes with the kind of work they do in the drug trade. Deep down, there are no good guys in Breaking Bad.
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It would be pretty intense though not surprise me all too much if Hank already knows it's Walt. Maybe it was just the acting but in the last ep Hank seemed to be -trying- to let Heisenberg be dead, and yet it was Walt who in the end insisted that Hank stay on him.
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Aug. 21, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST
I'm glad others seem to be waking up to this show's showness and lack of plot
by CountryBoy
I'm really surprised at the love BB gets. It's interesting because many of the comments seem to be things like "I love the slow burn" and "I love how even when nothing happens it's so good" "I love how it's not afraid to take its time" and "haters can go watch Bayformers" -- all this strikes me as the definition of "damning with faint praise." My theory is, viewers have been betrayed by shows in the past (Lost, Galactica) and they just don't want to get burned again. So they tells themselves it's fantastic, even as less and less actually happens. Last week was a case in point. It starts with Walt trying to kill Gus -- which takes 10 minutes or whatever to go nowhere -- and then cuts to Jesse, possibly being driven to his death -- but no! It's another 10 minutes of intentional boredom, finally capped off with a halfhearted robbery attempt that somehow brings Jesse out of his depression, and which is sort of a pale imitation of the episode of The Sopranos where Tony was roused from HIS depression by having to fight off an attempted hit. (That made more sense though: fighting for his life, Tony rediscovered his will to live; here, Jesse thwarts a robbery, and so no longer minds that he murdered someone.) (And when he told Walt he "took care of business" I thought, "I wonder if it was a setup to snap him out of it -- " only to find in the next scene, yup, it was a setup to snap him out of it!) The dinner party was tension-filled, and it actually mattered to the plot; but most of that episode, I dunno. But as I tell myself every week, maybe tonight will be good.
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WALT JUST BROKE THAT SHIT DOWN...DOWN TO CHINATOWN
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thought he'd rip that dollar bill up in dude's face
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I didn't understand that at all? Are tweakers just crazy and when you set them about an endless task they want to do it, or did "You know what." actually mean something? Hilarious sequence, but I was extremely confused.
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Aug. 21, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST
Dang, Walt's hard like a big dog. He took homie's George Jefferson's first $1 memory and bought a coke with it. "AS IS" is bitch.
by glodene
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Aug. 21, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST
I need to protect this house from the man who protects this house.
by Wolfman Nards
Brilliant. You know whoever wrote that line was like, "Fuck, I'm a genius!".
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Aug. 22, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST
Actually it was: I NEED TO PROTECT THIS FAMILY FROM THE MAN WHO PROTECTS THIS FAMILY.
by glodene
Personally I'd hate to be married to that ungrateful emasculatin' cunt. She's constantly rainin' on Walt's parade...A ninja be tryin' to man up and do what's right for his family and this hoe be tryin' to undermine his role as KEEPER OF THE CASTLE. What Walt needs to do is bend that hoe over and fuck her in the ass. That'll break her out of that annoyin' habit of comin' out of pocket with her ninja. EITHER ENJOY THE PERKS OF A DUTIFUL WIFE OR SUFFER THE FATE OF A MEDDLESOME BITCH! SO SAYETH, GLODENE! - MARRIAGE COUNSELOR
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Aug. 22, 2011, 12:54 a.m. CST
He took homie's George Jefferson's first $1 memory and bought a coke with it."
by NathanGrey
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Aug. 22, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST
He took homie's George Jefferson's first $1 memory and bought a coke with it. "
by NathanGrey
George Jefferson? Wait...what?
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Aug. 22, 2011, 1:07 a.m. CST
nathangrey, I was referrin' to an old ep. of The Jefferson's, where George was explainin' to a friend the story of...
by glodene
the dollar bill he had framed and mounted on his wall behind his counter. It was the first dollar from his very first customer on openin' day of his cleaners. I'm sure that dollar represented the same thing to that Russian dude. It was probably his first transaction on openin' day of his car wash. You'd be surprise how many independent merchants tend to do the same thing. LOL!
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Aug. 22, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST
Most businesses frame their first dollar earned... it's not a Jefferson's reference...
by Jim Jam Bongs
Also, Professor Pop, I think you are right on the mark about what's happening this season: Gus is going to be taken out by the Mexican cartel, and Walter is going to step in. The scene with Walter and his ex boss mocking him if Walter had what it takes to be a boss felt a bit on the nose, but it really seemed to be alluding to Walter taking over the Los Pollos gang.
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Then came episodes 6 and 7 and SUDDENLY it all made sense. Fucking whiners.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST
jim jam bongs, I didn't imply that it was an overall reference. I implied that it was my point of reference...Now fuck off, peckerwood!
by glodene
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what was the point of that?...was she using it to decide whether or not to run away?
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i have a feeling that the series ender may have something to do with that videotape walt made in the very first episode. walt might be killed or in prison at the end and hank will have it as evidence or walt jr or skylar will find it in the house somewhere and the last scene will be them watching it where he confesses on that tape. i think he says i did it all for my family or something along those lines. that tape has never been mentioned since then. a possibility?
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But like Walt, she didn't take the chance to get out, even when the coin told her to twice. Does anyone know, is that some sort of Four Corners tradition?
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with about a million other guys who have probably done that. Hope they wash that place down regularly.
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sure has attracted a lot of new folks with ADHD and masochists. Anyway....me, me me, it's all about me! Walt has changed in a lot of ways, but still doesn't have any tact. And who wasn't mentally urging those poor laundry workers to ignore his bribes? But he did finally give Bogdan (who BTW is a college professor, not actor, in real life) his comeuppance. And he is smart enough to see through Gus' manipulation of Jesse, whom I suspect is also capable of figuring it out, but will he? I think we might find out toward the end of the season. Evidently, Mike doesn't share Walt and Jesse's culinary choices. Dewey Crowe loses the tats but gets some rotten teeth in return. Skyler is slowly, but surely getting the full picture. But will she resist or embrace the Dark Side by the time the series is done? I couldn't find anything to indicate that her coin toss is a well-known, or widespread practice, but it might be a local custom. We'll see if the podcast crew clarifies. Both the director's and writer's chairs filled by players coming off the bench this episode.
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Love how its building up to walt taking over -- his confidence is building, i think he will take out gus, but will find (kind of like the car wash guy was saying) that it's not as easy as he expects to be boss. gus is in the middle of a drug war that is going to get much, much worse -- i think walt might do him a favor by removing him, but the war will become walt's problem. jessie and walt have no clue what gus and mike are dealing with against the cartel -- dont even know it's going on. think mike will end up working for walt, who will be more open to mike's suggestions -- may let mike bring in his operators like mike wanted gus to do. when walt takes over, he will put jessie back in the lab and off of "guard" duty -- that will create an even bigger rift since jessie seems to really like his new job. things are going to end very badly for all, and i think that will unfortunately include walt jr. -- this shown has consistently shown the cartel is pretty ruthless. think hank and marie may end up raising the walt's daughter -- no one else will be left.
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God, how cheesy.
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Too bad they spoiled that line by making it this season's promo tagline. We'd be losing our minds if that had come at us from out of left field.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST
the real question that must be answered: are Bogdan's eyebrows real or fake?
by Titus05
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Aug. 22, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST
rabid, we have 2 different takes on where this series is going
by palewook
gus might get taken out, walt won't be in charge. walt will end up squeezed into working for someone he doesn't want to and will have little choice in the matter. jesse won't survive the end of the series. walt will flip in the end once caught to protect his family. someone in walt's family might die. walt will end up serving time with the rest of his family in protection and hating him. think the end of the shield. nobody is getting out of this series untouched by walt's cancer. oh, his cancer, screw it, walt is the cancer.
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Please, for all of our sakes, stop watching and posting in here. We don't need to hear it. The show is fan-fucking-tastic on all fronts and there are no slow parts because every part is vital to the storyline. Nothing is filler. Some of you trolling need to realize that. So the next time you're gonna hate, turn on True Blood or something instead.
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skyler is thinking about running with the baby to protect their child from walt. she came back for JR and her sister. how long she stays or if she stays, is the new skyler dilemma. she wants out. in the end, she'll narc walt out to hank.
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I was watching the video for "Negro Y Azul" the other day and thinking how that all didn't really play out that way. Maybe it's still coming. I'm not so sure the cartel will take Gus out, though. They want to talk to him, and they may still want Heisenberg.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST
proevad -- that's why she moved the quarter with her foot
by WickedJacob
She picked it up once and it felt all grody. So that second flip was really all about her just wanting to get rid of the quarter. She wasn't going to touch it again for anything.
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They're real...and they're spectacular! To add a bit more to the story about the dude who plays Bogdan--he was "discovered" by the casting director when he accompanied his son to a casting call, and wound up getting a part in the pilot. But he's just more "filler" and a waste of time, right? Walt should have shot him and gotten the scene over with! Then drank his Coke!
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Aug. 22, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST
Can't dig a hole without the metheads showing up.
by David Cloverfield
It's true, go out and try it. Two moves with the shovel and they're there.
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Guys I don’t see the issue with slow burn here, we knew going into this season that Walter “is the danger” and so far, this season has delivered. I don’t buy the Walt is going to take over for Gus – that’s BS. Seriously, the man is incapable of running his own business (which is what the last 3 seasons has taught us) – to believe Walt is capable of running that organization is ridiculous (didn’t Mike’s ass whooping demonstrate how incapable Walt is?)… Walters pride has caused problems on more than one occasion, but none so harmful as last episode drunken rant, not to mention the self centered perspective of the ‘Meth Chef’ being the most important link in the chain. This is the beginning of the end, and Walts arrogance and pride will be to blame for what’s to come. Which …is always unpredictable, that’s what I enjoy…every time I think I know where the story is going someone pulls an illegal turn in the midst of traffic…
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Of course I know about the four corners, but I didn't know that the monument existed. I'm going to have to check that out someday. Awesome ep, by the way.
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his arrogance is kind of why i think he will take over from gus. has to do something w/ gus, and he is definitely showing that he believes he is capable of running the show. i do totally agree that he is not. that's why i think it will be an incredible failure. he won't be ready at all to take on the mexican cartel, but he'll try. i don't think he'll ever get as brutal as the cartel has been. the parallels to "scarface" are mentioned when this show is discussed -- i think it will be very similar, just a lot more believable when walt's finale comes. seems so focussed now on "gus" and protecting his family from gus, but has no idea that gus has a much bigger he's dealing with -- of course walt thinks it's just about him.
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or is Walt acting extremely stupid the last couple of episodes? First the drunken rant at Hanks and now buying his son that car. Is he thinking at all? I really don't understand the hate for Skylar in relation to this either, as she's the only one that seems to be thinking at all.
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For a season where mr. White is supposedly transitioning from the façade to a real menace, 6 episodes in, Walt has not demonstrated an ounce of cunning. Gus is outmaneuvering him by leaps and bounds. I agree his arrogance definitely fuels his desire to be in control but he has no idea what ‘control’ means. As observed by his lack of self control. Also, at what point does Walt’s succession in the ‘family’ earn him the respect of Mike, and the other lieutenants? The death of Gus would result in internal conflict / power struggle…especially with the cartel causing problems. Throw in the DEA taking a closer look at Gus’s operation…wow… just thinking about it all is fascinating. But to your point, I agree Walt’s ego may lead him to challenge Gus, but I find it hard to believe he’ll take a leadership role without being challenged… unless by season’s end he cements his breaking bad status by killing off all competition..
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Aug. 22, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
Herc -- The lid said, "platicar," not "dalicar."
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
Platicar means "to chat" or "to talk."
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grew a lot in this episode. He basically told Skyler that he is a murderer that people should be afraid of, and easily figured out Gus' master strategy of staging a fake robbery to get Jesse over to his side. A plan that Gus was so worried about that he personally went to Mike to check in on it afterwards. I think the scales tipped, ever so slightly, in Walt's favor this episode.
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I don't damn the show with faint praise, I don't think many of us do...I know personally I love every fucking second of this show. First off, it's the best looking show on TV. The colors, the framing of the shots, etc...just awesome to look at Second, no show has better acting. None that I can think of in the past or present. Third, its completely unpredictable. Might seem "slow" to some, but I'm on the edge of my seat the entire time. Only thing I didn't like about this episode was the fact that there was no Hank. Think next week will start with him. Also, anyone think that Mustang is bad news for Walt Jr? They made a big deal last season about him learning to drive/not having the proper footing.
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It's not slow at all. It like a flower blooming, with each part of the story gradually revealing itself. Then there's the tension. It is the most TENSE show in TV because you never know when the next shitstorm is going to rain down on Walt & Co. The last two episodes of the previous season actually made my heart race and leave me with goose pimples. No show (other than hardcore dutch pornography) has ever done that to me. It is a great series, but sometimes I do worry that like an elastic band stretched too tightly, the plot is getting a little thin and overwrought in places. But I still love it and come back for more...
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I agree it's well-shot -- shovel cam! -- though the bleakness of the setting is kind of oppressive to me. But I can appreciate the craftsmanship of it. As far as acting, I only really notice Walt and Mike. (This is a stupid question, but does Jr. really have cerebral palsy? (a la Corky, the kid with down syndrome on Life Goes On?) If not, that's pretty good acting too I guess. Gus seems almost like a cliched drug kingpin, so cool he never has to raise his voice, etc. And the show's unpredictability doesn't mean much to me, since the events themselves are not that compelling. (I did predict that the failed robbery was a setup, but only right before it was revealed.) I'm not just trying to be a contrarian. The main reason I keep coming back to my problems with the show is that it's constantly touted as the best thing on TV. By all accounts it used to really be incredible; maybe people are partly seeing it through the prism of its past greatness, remembering superior elements and (reasonably) considering the current show a continuation of that story. But starting with this season, I just don't see it.
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As I alluded to therawbeats, I wonder if you're seeing the show in terms of how great it used to be. Having goosebumps in the past doesn't necessarily translate to greatness now. And I agree with your rubber band assessment; I do feel like a lot of the story could be accomplished far more economically.
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Walt cannot possibly succeed Gus. He might believe himself to be 'The One Who Knocks', but he still has yet to make it all the way up to Gus's porch. Gus will survive this season.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST
Walter is simply not a good person -- so many flaws with him, including self-destructiveness...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
And he is suffering from paranoia, which has probably been exasperated by his cancer (which Jesse brought up in that episode where they tried to catch a fly in the lab). Walter this season so far has behaved fairly in line with how he was in the first season. Gus is not going to take Walter out, I predict. Gus strikes me as a dark Zen master who always has the Big Picture in mind. Walter figures in somehow as leverage against the Mexican cartel for Gus. For now, Walter is Gus' insurance against his enemy. But I don't think Gus will survive this season. And I don't think Walter will be the one to take him out (he might try again). It will be the cartel, and once that happens, and the DEA starts sniffing closer, things will really turn dark for Walter. Circumstances are steadily priming Walter to fully become Heisenberg and take over for Gus. The whole Gus is threatening Walter and Walter wanting to kill Gus arc will turn out to be a red herring, cranked up by Walter's paranoia. There is a much more dangerous threat to Walter, Jesse and the White family brewing.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST
Practically every scene in this episode was suffused with foreshadowing to Walter taking over Los Pollos Hermanos...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
The car wash scene. The arguments between Walter and Skylar. The four points tourist stop. The way Walter interacted with the cleaning ladies, with his broken Spanish. Jesse and Gus.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST
The only thing more tense than this show is that last epiosde of Louie
by bah
Holy crap, what the hell was that? That dude should write for everything.
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Well obviously if you just jump in any show 4 seasons in you're not going to have the same investment! I remember watching watching some Sopranos season 5 or something before I'd seen any of them and I was unimpressed. Now I've seen them all plenty of times and season 5 is one of my favorites.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
but as I've said before, I've seen random episodes of other shows that, even if I wasn't invested...
by CountryBoy
... I could at once appreciate as good shows. Everything from THE OFFICE to RESCUE ME to THE SHIELD to FRINGE -- all shows about which I knew next to nothing at the time -- wowed me. BB just kind of disappoints me.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST
That Louie episode WAS freaky! I felt like it was actually happening.
by CountryBoy
You mean the lunch with the producer, right? :)
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With the fake robbery? I thought this show was supposed to be realistic. That was some Scooby Doo bullshit. Gus is supposed to know how it would play out and what Jesse's reaction would be? FUCK YOU. I'm just going to pretend that didn't happen.
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Aug. 22, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST
i somewhat agree with you i hope you die. the fake robbery struck me as somewhat Scooby Doo ish.
by dahveed1972
It implies that Gus is some sort of cartoonish super genius villain type. Im willing to let it slide, and I get what its supposed to tell you about how Gus rolls and how hes a Kasparov level chess player and Walt may or may not be out of his league. The fact that Walt saw through this rather quickly salvages the whole thing for me. Not sure why. Anyway, its still (probably) the best show on TV.
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Last week on Louie, it was pretty funny, your mother actually blew 86 Libyan rebels for the whole episode, Louis CK wasn't even in it. It was a really good episode.
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Aug. 23, 2011, 12:48 a.m. CST
Eat shit soy-boys! That final line from Skylar was awesome!
by Pixelsmack
Go back to your phohawks, plaid shirts, deep penetrative anal sex (woman or male), and your all organic soy-products. THAT'S A REAL FUCKING WOMAN and GNARLY WRITING. Pixelsmack has spoken-deal.
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I have to agree it was the best ep so far. I like the way gus is always 5 steps ahead, especially with Jesse and his melf ways. Skyer is very much needed to stop walt from fucking everything up. She knows he is going to die and just want to make sure the family is set after he is gone (protect the family from the man that protect the family). Just a lot of good shit about to pop in 2nd half of the season, i can't wait.
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You forgot one key piece of foreshadowing... When Skylar asked Walt if the person responsible for killing Gale would kill him... Walt's response - "not likely" ....
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From the moment he decided to deal in society-destroying drugs rather than take money from his rich friend who owed him anyway, he has made one selfish decision after another. It's starting to get old quite honestly. I'm starting to really disliek his character now. In fact, I don't really like any of the characters on this show anymore. I don't know what happened.
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Yes you are correct, never made sense to me that Walt would not take the money. He got screwed out of that money and this was the perfect way to get it back and help his family. Walt is not a real good guy, in the end that is what this series is all about. He is a smart guy who means well but has a dark streak inside of him that is slowly taking him over the edge.
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Aug. 23, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST
Finally watching it - He's gonna get those Mexican ladies killed
by deelzbub
oh shit
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my bad
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Aug. 23, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST
my moms from honduras, so thanks for the correction deelzbub!
by dahveed1972
thanks, most wouldnt bother.
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unless you're just some stupid 12 year old kid with unfettered access to the interwebs. in which case: Go to bed!!
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but he still failed to predict that Walt would eliminate Gale, resulting in the current morass. And we still have yet to see how he's going to handle the conflict with the Mexican cartel. Last weeks' Louie was a study in how he handles situations that appear good, but rapidly deteriorate.
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I have 'serious issues' for mocking you in a funny way for not just watching a great episode of television and asking us what happened? How lame and unfunny are you? Ugh. Seriously though, joking aside, your mom was great in that episode when she blew all the Libyan rebels in succession.
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One of the things I like about the show is that it is realistic. In real life, the decision walt made to enter the drug world rather than take money from a friend has led to one decision after another that turns you into someone you would like less and less. What's happening with walt and jessie is really a realistic and natural progression from where they started personality-wise. Getting deeper and deeper into the world they are in does not make you a better person -- unless/until you find a way out of it.
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I DO, affirmative, enjoy the cryptic spoilers Keep em coming.
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We don't know why Walt left GREY. Expect a reveal of the event that explains why he declined his old friends' help. At first I thought it was about a girl, but then the flashback w him househunting estab he was still there and feeling strong.
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I like the spoilers, but I would also appreciate a more substantial review than "Herc loves/hates/ is indifferent to this episode". Even just a paragraph.
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Is BREAKING BAD something I should be looking out for? (BTW I dig Cranston a lot)
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No idea. But "platicar," which is what was written on the bucket lid, means "to converse."
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