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See Two Of The AVENGERS Fighting Side By Side In Cleveland New York!! Now With THOR -vs- Car!! And More Whedon Boom!!
Merrick here...
An AICN reader sent in this message and video from THE AVENGERS shoot in Cleveland.
I know Cap's suit is different in this film (image HERE), but I sure did love THE FIRST AVENGER and thought he looked pretty badass in that costume. Which reminds me: have you seen THIS figure from Hot Toys? Same folks who brought us the Superman figure we were looking at a few weeks ago. SO cool.
Reader Angelo Pappas just sent this in...Thor. Car. Mess.
Footage of the filming of a building explosion from the film can be found on the Medical Mutual Facebook page, HERE.
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I hope the AVENGERS is better then the last few Marvel movies (besides the last X-Men). Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man 2 just didn't satisfy.
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No, wait...that's another meme.
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another typical day in Manhattan
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Who would have thought? Captain America in a fight scene lasting more than a few seconds.
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So this should actually give us a clue specifcally who the baddies are in this. I know there have been rumors but nothing confirmed. Who are these guys? Is this part of the Skree (or whatever they are called) storyline, or are these Loki's minions?
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one shield
one hammer
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Really, Marvel...get fucked.
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I'm starting to wonder if they're not turning a blind eye to a little bit of this so as to keep up the hype over the course of the next year. They do have a Batman movie to contend with after all. That and, well, in this day and age you can't stop the signal.
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Why would he do that? Didn't look like an accident.
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FACT!
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CGI will probably have the shield being thrown at a baddie. He just had to get it out of his hand. Or maybe its just a bad take. CUT!!
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Harry! Edit button please..
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Aug 19, 2011 1:15:13 PM CDT
Lookin pretty sweet! Must be a foreign car; some of those roll over easily.
by xevioso5
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yeah..
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Aug 19, 2011 1:22:29 PM CDT
Nice splosions. Looks like he went to the Bay School of Filmmaking
by xevioso5
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Looks like Hydra's minions to me.
Getting so pumped for this! Please don't fuck it up Joss!
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Probably just some of Loki's dudes which would not be as good but I'll take it...I think it's going to be a fun film if it's not too goofy to be enjoyable like GL.
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Both Avengers and TDKR are being filmed in the middle of major cities, including during business hours in central business districts. They cannot evacuate a fucking city just to shoot some scenes for fuck's sake.
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Fuck most of that CGI-Crap.
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Aug 19, 2011 1:37:46 PM CDT
Looks great. Like that Evans has his mask off. But again, with Thor...
by kevred
It's great to see this (if you squint your eyes, you can almost imagine it's news-helicopter footage of actual super hero fighting in our world...). They both look great and move well. Evens looks a lot better without that stupid helmet-thing on. Thor would look better in the outfit we saw in the teaser instead of this "armor", but oh well. Nice to see some reasonably large-scale full-on fighting.
But while it's great to see Thor and Cap fighting side by side (and it is great... think how long we've waited to see hero team-ups on screen), I'm still thinking... THOR isn't there to fight the baddies that Cap can fight. If Cap can take these baddies, then THOR needs to be somewhere else, fighting tougher baddies.
Don't get me wrong, I want as much of the team fighting together as they can. (And seeing the two of them here makes me wonder if this is one of the pair-off-and-spread-out-across-the-globe plots that was often used in the old Avengers comics.) But I want to see Thor do more than just fight cars and Stormtroopers. Thor, Hulk and Iron Man need Big Work.
But so far, so good, everyone. This and Hobbit are neck-and-neck for the films I'm most excited about for next year. -
That's all there is to it.
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Aug 19, 2011 1:39:38 PM CDT
Oh, and the new Ghost Rider trailer looks GREAT, pissing fire and all
by 3d-man
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Aug 19, 2011 1:39:46 PM CDT
MAKE MINE MARVEL!!! really stoked to see this. 2012 rite?
by spacedoughnut
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A bit... The idea that these guys are out fighting minions while the public watches from the roof.
So when is Marvel going to throw $10mil at a thoughtful director to show the other perspective of this entire thing. It wouldn't require much effects, it's more of a human story than most of the other superhero fare. There's money to be made. Imagine something like Monsters set in New York while the Marvel universe has a huge event in another film. Kind of like this one. Heck, shoot them at the same time to save money.
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Avengers is going to hand Dark Knights it's ass. Great looking stuff, unlike that buzzkill Bane shit we've seen.
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Hilarious, 8-)
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Would be great to see as a short on the Blu-Ray.
Joss, make it happen! -
Aug 19, 2011 2:02:32 PM CDT
Seriously, stuff like this makes me giddy like a little kid again
by d.vader
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Power levels on the four main Avengers
works out to be Thor>Hulk>Iron Man>Cap.
Thor will ALWAYS be the heaviest hitter of the
group. I think there is a emotional symmetry to having Cap (displaced warrior) being teamed-up with Thor (displaced warrior). Stark and Banner are men of science (with daddy issues). Interestingly enough, the practical needs of the actual filming of the Avengers might force the two MOSTLY CGI'd characters to be paired-up, Stark in the Iron Man SUIT and Banner HULKED-OUT.
Hugo -
Batman is a pussy
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Aug 19, 2011 2:24:30 PM CDT
Looks brilliant, but a bit worrying that Cap has his mask off
by benbraddock
It really bugs me that all (i think, at least 3) of the posters for CAPTAIN AMERICA featured Cap without his mask! WTF? It's like they were ashamed of having a masked superhero in their movie. I hope it's not gonna be the case here. Anyway, can't wait, this footage is amazing!!
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As much of a dream as it would be to have the Skrulls in this movie....it almost feels like these are Chitauri instead. For those of you that didn't read The Ultimates, they are super similar to Skrulls but have more of a reptilian-ish look which would explain all the sweet motion caputre grey suit dudes.
In the first Ultimates the story line basically revolves around these guys trying to take over the world, they were part of the Nazi's (or it could be Hydra in the film universe) so Cap know one of their leaders as they are also shape shifters.....
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Last time I checked.
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Aug 19, 2011 2:44:02 PM CDT
Exclamation Marks! Color Font! ...that last Superman post was Not treated the same.
by wildcard_comics
Wow. I'm Shocked.
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Aug 19, 2011 2:45:34 PM CDT
Sorry not epic enough.Duking it out in the middle of the street in bright day
by killik
is banal.I expected something more original and creative from Whedon.
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explicit references to the titular characters' duties with the Avengers?
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If Whedon and Co. really want to shake shit up to make them more than that, they should kill one or two Avengers in the big battle. I'm thinking Hulk and Black Widow. Not like they're going to be franchised, right?
Besides, it'll open the door for other Marvel characters to join up. More franchising possibilities, more toy dollars.
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I get it now =P.
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Aug 19, 2011 2:51:59 PM CDT
Finally, Greenman, Vikingman, Flagman and Robotman in the same film
by vaughany
Can't wait
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Aug 19, 2011 2:58:22 PM CDT
Looks like cap is swinging something after he drops his shield
by cockdiesel
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Don't sell cap short. He's taken on Hulk before.
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Dude, HULK is strongest one there is.
Hulk get angrier = Hulk get stronger
That being said, you idea of pairing up team members for emotional and budgetary reasons is brilliant. I think Stark egging on Banner to become Hulk, and then dealing with the consequences of that could be good fun.
I'm sure Cap and Tony will have their own emotional arc to follow. Wouldn't be suprised if that mirrored the over all story the film tells. They seem the most likely to be at odds. -
Have to agree - this street fight looks about as epic as an episode of Tenspeed and Brownshoe.
I do hope this is not indicative of the entire film - cux, like I have a good run of Avengers beginning with issue issue #1 , and I am hoping for Something that resembles the comics, in some way- the costumes are not bad. -
Aug 19, 2011 3:17:38 PM CDT
@kevred: "If Cap can take these baddies, then THOR needs to be somewhere else, fighting tougher baddies."
by carl xvi gustaf
Thor is hitting a car so it flips over. Cap is down on the ground. See?
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It's one sequence from the movie, a scene which probably will be full of aliens and space ships. Lots of CG additions in any case. And you see it being shot from far, with a handheld camera up in some building.
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...but I said that the new Cap costume looks better in motion than it does in still shots. And I wondered what the deal with the faded, almost invisible star on his back is.
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What do Greeks know about epics?
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Look closely they look like they are fighting a horde of comic book Nick Fury's, or SHEILD agents.
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Are they wearing CG-Screen suits? If so, this gives you a big indicator its going to be Skrulls or another race of soldiers who dont exactly come off as human by nature.
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NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
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I watched it a few times and I can't figure out what's making it flip. I have to assume that an actual mystical hammer was used on set for that stunt.
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Those guys Cap & Thor are fighting are probably "stand-ins" for the Skrulls. They're wearing mo-cap suits.
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Car didn't stand a chance
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But, unless that scene is cut from the film, it this scene being filmed look rather small and the fight choreography looks pretty damn typical.
Like you, I am hoping for grand scale SF elements that we have yet to see on the screen- you know, like, why not at least try to approximate the comic book sweeping grandness to give us something more than fist fights. -
Aug 19, 2011 3:44:09 PM CDT
Verily, Thor doth hate ALL makes of cars besides Volvos!
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
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Aug 19, 2011 3:45:42 PM CDT
Likewise doth Thor refuse any cellphones but those of Nokia!
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
Thor hath spoken! So be it.
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Aug 19, 2011 4:04:36 PM CDT
THIS IS LOOKING GOOD!!!! KEEP IT UP......PUT ON THE MASK!!!
by northtronic
I'M EXCITED!!!!
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There's a pale blue cable connected to the car over the roof - it's likely a steel cable hooked to a powerful wench - capable of quickly yanking a car (likely with no engine or real interior, etc, to cut down on weight) and flipping it.
I didn't hear the hammer hit the car but how flippin sweet would it be to have that car rigged up and hit it with a nice heavy hammer not unlike Mjolnir and having the car you hit actually going flying off flipping thru the air?
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AWESOMESAUCE!
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...what could be bad?
I love Halloween, STUFFing day, Xmas along
with the spring renewal...but I'm aching to
see some of my favorite heroes fighting
together. If I could time jump...I think I might.
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Thor's hammer hit that car squarely in the passenger side window with enough force to flip the car over several times but without the glass shattering.
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Thor's hammer from the comics would have that car split in twon and sailing through the air.
Oh well so much for comic book spectacle and physics. A car flipping over a couple times is tv movie level blandness.
I do want this to be a great film - hoping there will be bigger, somewhere, in this film.
Marvel comics made their mark for being rooted in reality but soaring with the spectacular powers of it's superheroes.
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Immediately after THOR knocks over the car, he turns around attempting to swing his hammer again, but from what we see, nothing is behind him, and the smoke covers up the rest.
Hmmmm, so he probably hit the car at some unknown beast, then turned to wallop the other.
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And I finally saw Captain America today (I know I'm a bad geek) I felt it is possibly my favorite super hero film of all, yeah I said it. EXCELLENT!
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Aug 19, 2011 5:03:18 PM CDT
What's with the jerkin-off gesture Cap is making at the end (of the 1st clip)?
by frenetik1
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i saw that too- funny- either he is signalling to cut, or telling thor it's a wrap (telling him it's a cut, maybe can't hear) or they are going to cgi him swinging a chain...or.....he's simply doing a jerk off sign to make hemsworth slip up and laugh
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is doing this?
Bwaahahahahahhahaha!
A shit sandwich sounds more appealing!,this will be dog shit people,might as well deal with it now.
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in real time, in real ife, outdoors, with real things.
have CG budgets become too big now that directors are shooting practical again? i'm impressed by this.
if lucas or anyone else were doing something like this, it would be in a greenscreen gym, and the actors running around fighting greenscreen guys around a green paded obstacle course. and thor's cape would be animated. -
Stan Lee himself said so. He ought to know.
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Aug 19, 2011 6:20:56 PM CDT
no question in my mind now, this is a massive SKRULL battle/invasion
by awepittance
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Aug 19, 2011 6:24:03 PM CDT
HOW AMAZING WOULD IT BE IF AT THE HEIGHT OF LOKI/SKRULL/COSMIC CUBE/THANOS INFINITY GAUNTLET INSANITY, UATU THE WATCHER APPEARS
by the green gargantua
I would shit myself.
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Aug 19, 2011 6:36:51 PM CDT
@carl xvi gustaf, are you saying that Thor hitting cars is good enough for you?
by kevred
Well, to each their own. Maybe in the grand finale, he'll fight a pickup truck.
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Aug 19, 2011 6:41:08 PM CDT
The thing about Thor vs. Hulk strength: isn't the Hulk's strength theoretically just about unlimited?
by kevred
He gets massively stronger the angrier he gets. Seems that if Thor finished a fight with him early enough, Thor would get the nod, but if it takes a while, Hulk would overwhelm him. In all the comic battles I've seen between them, they drag it out to a draw to make a point of how unbelievably tough they are.
Maybe newer comics have cleared it up, but since 95% of all comic writing in this century is laughably awful, I wouldn't trust such a verdict.
Of course with Thor, you get all the powers of the hammer, flight, etc. With Hulk, you get unreasoning brutality on an unlimited scale - no restraint.
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Believe me, I've read enough comics to know what he's capable of. But there's a huge gap of capability between Cap and Thor. I'm just hoping we get each character pushed to their limits, not a bunch of fights scaled down to the weakest of the group.
I'm assuming it's an incredibly obvious concept to the filmmakers and I have no reason for concern. And, I love what we're seeing so far and think this is going to be so fun to see. Just thinking out loud. -
yes. found footage super hero movie time bitches!
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strongest non-mortal super-hero on Earth.i dont think that he has ever specified that he is also stronger than Hulk.
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I bet Cap will initially be seen as the weak link. It's like the beginning of Captain America TFA all over again! He didn't back down to bullies before, and he won't back down to enemies that are vastly superior to him now. Stark and Thor will go from being a bit contemptuous of him, to growing respect, to open admiration at the end. He'll be become (more or less) their leader at the end of Act III.
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Aug 19, 2011 7:33:00 PM CDT
If Thor is as Strong as Superman shouldn't them Skrulls be a breeze to knock over?
by the founder
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Aug 19, 2011 7:42:47 PM CDT
Did anyone feel that Cap was less "super" than he should have been?
by the green gargantua
He was strong and stuff, but not as super human as he appears in the funny pages..
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Those look like the blue and whites of s.h.i.e.l.d. agents. Also, When Hulk first changes Thor IS stronger, but The Hulk can easily get stronger than Thor as a fight drags on. Just some lifetime nerd clarification there.
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The dark blue suits with the white gloves, boots and straps, they may just be some type of mocap suit from this distance but it looks like Cap and Thor are wailing on a bunch of white 60's Nick Fury clones. That that was kind of funny. The practical bit of FX with the car was great, I love that it sounded like Hemsworth really cracked the hell out of that door too. I like Whedon a lot. I'm behind this. Now show us Hawkey in his Ultimates outfit please.
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Aug 19, 2011 8:31:07 PM CDT
Those clips: Already 10 times better than Superman Returns & Green Lantern combined!
by raymar
But can we get some love for Thor's helmet?!
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um, unless you count the writer of a script as 'the man responsible' for a film, then no, Whedon, was not the man responsible. That would be the director, you know the guy who interprets that script and has the final say on every aspect of the film not controlled by the suits. The writer pretty much has no power and little responsibility.
This time, it's Whedon's show.
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proves that Chris Hemsworth was the right guy for the job. Look how easy it was for him to roll that car just by smacking it with his hammer!
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I bought Evans as a hero in the Cap film, but had a hard time imagining him as the natural, instinctive leader of everyone in the Avengers. He seemed a little too fresh-faced, aw-shucks. The montage of him leading all those missions didn't change that image for me. Seemed like he was still finding his way in the final battle sequence.
But I would love seeing him take that role in the film. It's always great when Cap does that, from the original Avengers to Secret Wars to any number of examples since.
I think it's that manly, super-heroic *persona* - the one which is always propelling Cap into leader roles in the comics - which everyone wondered if Evans had. He has the build, he has the moves, but does he have the tough-as-nails combat leader vibe? Not sure, but hope they give him a shot to prove it in the film. -
I hadn't thought about the SHIELD look but you're right. Hey, maybe they're fighting a bunch of Nick Fury clones!
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Aug 19, 2011 9:56:15 PM CDT
Thor is more powerful than Hulk. I once had a Marvel compendium of heroes...
by doctorwho?
...and all things in the Marvel Universe. I wish I still had it. It ranked all the heroes with detailed profiles. I don't recall much of the book but I do remember Thor listed first as most powerful with Hulk second. That surprised my 9 or 10 yr old mindset at the time, though made sense when I considered Thor is himself a God.
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Aug 19, 2011 9:56:53 PM CDT
@green gargantua, that would be just about as amazing as it gets.
by kevred
To have a great movie be suddenly taken over by some of the ultimate Jack Kirby craziness would be awesome.
Or since Fox seems to think the lame "swarm" Galactus is so cool (which it really, really isn't), maybe they'd be willing to loan the One True Galactus for an Avengers appearance. -
Aug 19, 2011 10:03:36 PM CDT
I really really hope that theres a thor/hulk brawl at some point.
by dahveed1972
Maybe at the beginning.
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Thor is the strongest non-mortal, yes. Hulk/Banner are mortal. Ergo, this does not mean Thor is ipso facto stronger than Hulk.
Thor is initially at a stronger power level than is Hulk. Yet Hulk has the escalating strength in proportion to rage affect. Hulk's strength can overpower Thor's strength in time.
No matter how angry Hulk gets, nothing, NOTHING, can separate Mjolnir from Thor's hand. Not even Hulk's boundless rage. Has to do with that whole 'worthy' thing.
That is all, class. Finals tomorrow. -
Which I mean in the best way possible.
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you do realize that clip wasn't the full movie, right?
The Avengers will own 2012! -
Second clip, you can see Cap struggling on the ground, while Blondie hauls off to hurl that hammer at something right after sending that car flying. Hemsworth is moving FAST, too, as he should be.
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The guys they're fighting look like they're wearing old school SHIELD uniforms. Can that be? Oh, and Cap should be wearing his mask when he's out in public. It always bugged me in the Spider-Man movies how often Spidey took off his frickin' mask outside where people might see him. Leave the mask on!
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Goldilocks pounding that car is pretty awesome.
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The Washington Post did an interview with Stan Lee some years back (I can't find it online) and they asked him point-blank who was stronger, Thor or the Hulk. Lee said something to the effect that the Hulk was pretty strong, but Thor was a god (or maybe "an immortal") and so he would be tough to beat. I forget how he phrased it, but he made it clear that Thor was the more powerful.
I did read that Marvel compendium too - I'd forgotten about that. It was very detailed.
While it's true that the Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder, it's also true that he's just a guy who got hit by gamma radiation; strictly speaking, there's nothing special about him per se. it could have been anybody, and the next guy might actually be more powerful than Bruce Banner. And by the way, there is a limit to any human range.
Thor, by contrast, is almost insanely strong and powerful in & of himself. If you read the 60s/70s Marvels (which I sure did), you could tell Thor was not only stronger, but without question much more powerful overall.
For instance, whenever the Hulk & Sub-Mariner fought, the Hulk would win on land, but could never beat Namor underwater, and it would be a draw (see Tales to Astonish 100, for example).
By contast, when Thor fought Subby, Thor decidedly beat him, even underwater (somewhat to my surprise). That was an issue of Subby's mag circa 1976.
Heck, even the Silver Surfer could not beat Thor. In SS #4, Loki brought ol' Norrin Radd to Asgard, and he had a battle with Thor, after which the SS said in a thought balloon that his power was no match for Thor's.
One other point re the whole "Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder" idea- remember that Thor is (very rarely) subject to something called "Warrior Madness." It's when Thor (or any warrior) basically loses control (something like "Hulk get mad!!"). If Thor ever fell into this state while fighting the Hulk (or anyone else), they would be in very real, very deep trouble.
Not to mention when Thor REALLY unleashes his power over storms and so forth. When he would do this in the 60s/70s Marvels, it was something to behold- it would also be something the Hulk would have a hard time handling while trying to fight Thor at the same time.
Finally, Thor has one other power I've only seen him use once: he can use Mjolnir to transport someone to a dimension so far away they can never find their way back to Earth. I doubt this is anything he'd ever do in a fight, but he can if necessary.
Bottom line, Thor is stronger than the Hulk - but add in his overall powers and he's almost ridiculously, well, powerful. -
...when Thor was one of the former and the Hulk one of the latter, they faced off against each other and the result was total stalemate. And I don't mean throwing punches for a while, inconclusively; I mean locked unmoving in a position they hold for over an hour, sweating, straining, unable to budge each other by even a millimeter. And the caption tells us that "Neither shows any sign of tiring", right before both teams show up to explain they've been duped by Loki and Dormammu and they can knock it off now.
I'd think that over the course of an hour, the Hulk would have had the chance to get extremely pissed at Thor, and yet it's still not enough to break Thor's grip. Therefore I conclude that the Hulk is not the much-claimed "Strongest one there is!" (and why would you take the word of someone with the mentality of a child anyway?), but rather a perfectly even match for Thor. (It also seems a little ironic and Whedonesque to me that instead of destroying an entire city, this ultimate showdown results in sweating sculpture that causes not a grain of damage. I'd love to see that in the film.) -
I meant to say "there is a limit to any human RAGE, not RANGE" (duh). In other words, a human being can only get so angry- eventually he stops. Now, one can argue that because of gamma radiation, the Hulk's rage is nearly limitless. Could be. But he still has his limits (I don't think the Hulk will ever get strong enough to move, say, the whole Milky Way galaxy).
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I think I saw that once- with Thor & the Hulk locked in an embrace.
Personally, I tend to go with the 60s & some 70s Marvels. The stuff that came later doesn't matter much to me (and of course that's just me).
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Aug 20, 2011 1:27:11 AM CDT
Looks great but I'm stillsomewhat worried about Whedon. I don't have the faith that many here seem to do in him.
by the founder
Hope he proves me so wrong.
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eye-searingly hideous. this looks more like Cap.
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How about we wait to see what the finished scene from the camera's point of view with VFX and everything added looks like before passing judgement, huh? For all we know, this could be just a small part of a longer scene that involves dozens or hundreds of Skrull (or whatever they turn out to be) swarming all over Cap and Thor. Would that be epic enough? And for those of you griping about how these adversaries seem unworthy of Thor, what do you expect him to do? Fly off and leave Cap to face them all alone because they're beneath him? Way to be a team player.
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Cos the Hulk-level doses of lactic acid produced by his own muscles would make it too painful.
How's that for geeky? -
Hooray! I'm so tired of CG cars flying through the air. Glad they did some of this the old-fashioned way.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but i'd say the fucking script was a pretty large reason why a movie works or doesnt work,shit script = shit film
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Heard that Fox are using the Skrulls in the new Fantastic Four movie. Makes sense as they appeared in the FF first.
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Aug 20, 2011 8:39:38 AM CDT
Oh FOX is using the Skulls, Whew cause at first i thought i saw Skrulls, which FOX doesn't have the rites too, just Super Skrull.
by the founder
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Aug 20, 2011 8:49:16 AM CDT
detached, the Avengers/Defenders War would indeed...
by kisskissbangbang
...have been in the Seventies, probably the summer of '73, I'm thinking. Pretty sure Thor/Hulk was Defenders 10, with Steve Englehart and Sal Buscema scripting and drawing respectively. Cool as it was, the Avengers/Defenders War was arguably the ancestor of all the crossover events that infest comics today, so it has quite a bit to answer for, although with only two books involved for five months, it was lean and tight in comparison to the current company-wide sprawls. These days you'd have at least 10 miniseries and one-shots each month in addition to the dozen and a half regular books participating.
(And, yeah, I could look up the dates, but that'd be a) cheating, and b) deny some fellow fan the pleasure of correcting me.) -
Aug 20, 2011 10:33:32 AM CDT
I just looked at my Hardcover of The Ultimates and was surprised to see Joss Whedon wrote the forward.
by pizzatheface
So I imagine this movie will follow the Ultimates storyline roughly. He was very impressed with Mark Millar's and Brian Hitch's work (as am I). These characters need to be believable for us to care about them. (It's what made the original Star Wars movies not just another crappy 70's sci-fi b- movie.) Also, regarding Thor vs. Hulk: I find one of the most awesome moments in the Ultimates is when hulk gets pissed enough to lift Mjolnir. Screw worthiness, this was pure rage/adrenaline.
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The same suit we saw a closeup of the other day. So expect CGI humanoid foes...
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168245-first-peek-at-superman-on-the-man-of-steel-set
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Aug 20, 2011 1:24:08 PM CDT
This movie looks awesome. And that footage has me jazzed.
by brooklyndodger
I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a film.
Haters, wipe the cheetos off your lips and suck a prick. -
Aug 20, 2011 1:25:30 PM CDT
Totally off-topic, but just watched X-2 on FX. Every bit as good as TDK.
by dahveed1972
Its been a while since ive seen it, and it still holds up great. Better than what I remembered in fact. And better than Spider-Man 2.
Couldnt give two shits about the uniforms, but the effects, pacing, dialogue, tone, etc. are all really really good. And Jean Grey's sacrifice at the end was almost as poignant as Spock's in Khan.
Singer gets a lot of shit on this site, but the fact is he pretty much knocked it out of the park with X-2 and this should be acknowledged.
If only he couldve resisted the urge to make a "sequel" to Donners movies. That said, the guy deserves another shot at the x-men methinks. -
Aug 20, 2011 1:28:59 PM CDT
kisskissbangbang, you're referring to the EVIL EYE story arc...
by amadeo zeller
And yes, that it was not only Marvel's first big epic storyline, but it also doubled as The Defenders origin. Good stuff.
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Aug 20, 2011 1:30:40 PM CDT
Btw, I'm surprised that none of you've mentioned the throwdowns between The Hulk and Namor, The Sub Mariner. Their battles were EPIC!
by amadeo zeller
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Don't think you're actually reading complaints, just speculation. Go back and read again, and this time breathe deeply.
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Aug 20, 2011 3:53:22 PM CDT
@carl xvi gustaf - if you actually read my comments, you wouldn't have to ask that question.
by kevred
And you also wouldn't have had to make your initial comment, either.
I went to great pains to explain that I think the film is going to be great, and that all I was saying is that I hope Thor gets something bigger to fight. Sorry you missed that.
I agree with you that this film will own in 2012! -
I love and hate these short glimpses we're getting of this and TDKR. Not because they're really spoiling anything (Bane FIGHTS Batman?!?!) but they're getting me way too eager to see these movies when they're almost a year away...All that aside next year is looking to be pretty fucking awesome for geeks and casual fans alike. Cannot wait. Nolan and Whedon FTW!
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If you wanted to see them fighting in Space or something they wouldn't be shooting that practically. The crazier you want your action, the more CG and green-screened/performance capped it'd need to be...
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...but, yes, that was indeed the Evil Eye arc and, as you say, good stuff. But I'm not sure what you mean about it doubling as a Defenders origin, since the book had been around for half a dozen issues before the Evil Eye arc (and Roy Thomas had woven a story about Dr. Strange, Hulk and Namor facing a Lovecraftian villain through issues of each of their books a couple of years before that, though these were single issue team-ups). Could you elaborate a little if you're still hanging around?
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