Jan. 25, 2000, 7:01 a.m. CST
looks like astrowosit in StarTrek...quite nice though...a bit CGI maybe but then it is meant to be in the movie so...
Jan. 25, 2000, 7:12 a.m. CST
What the hell is this?? Weird.
Jan. 25, 2000, 8:19 a.m. CST
by LOS GORDOS
Hey up there El Gordo^. LOS GORDOS here. Everything I've seen so far from this flic looks downright amazing. If you haven't seen the trailer yet do yourself a favour and check it out! HEY!!!!.... In that first pick are those hundreds of little gold ships or capsules streaking away from the holographic planets surface??? Fascinating. Whatta you guys think?
Jan. 25, 2000, 9:55 a.m. CST
I can't tell you why - but I can't stop feeling some anamosity towards this movie. Its like the hype is killing it for me. I know that the other one isnt due until mid summer, but somehow im looking forward to that one and not this M2M thing. Maybe its just the "I root for the underdog" type of feelings ?. Does anyone besides me feel like this "out-there"?
Jan. 25, 2000, 11:55 a.m. CST
Funny how despite all the trailers and rumors and bantering and pictures and speculation etc etc., you just wont have a clue about a movie...until.....YOU ACTUALLY SEE IT.....yes....crazy i know. well, frack, all i can say is...i hope it is good. it would be cool to have even a "contact" level flick of mars movies. we got cheesed with the asteroid flicks, although i didnt think impact was as bad as everyone said, beat the hell out of mtvgeddon, oh i mean cheesegeddon, oops, i meant armacheese, oh whatever.
Jan. 25, 2000, 3:01 p.m. CST
Gee, I hope they have Sammy Hagar on the soundtrack... Get it? Marching to Mars, Sammy Hagar, anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller? Peace.
Jan. 25, 2000, 7:32 p.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
The Red Rocker RAWKS! I mean that album totally fucking ROCKS! Um, which one... oh yeah. STANDING HAMPTON! The one with "I'll Fall In Love Again". Admit it. You loved that song! ADMIT IT FANBOY!!! He shoulda died after that album. (not wishing any ill-will at all towards Sammy---Mr. Hagar, if you are out there, YOU RULE!) So go on, dig out your old cassette of it out of the dashboard and give it a spin. And the photos? The scale of the solar system is WAAYYY off. Looks cool, though.
Jan. 25, 2000, 8:08 p.m. CST
It looks like the movie is about a bunch of people visiting a planetarium. Also, does anyone think its a problem that we find out in the trailer and in this photo that Jerry O'Connel and Tim Robbins die! Isn't that bad?
Jan. 25, 2000, 8:42 p.m. CST
Well, I've seen the trailer, and so have many of my friends. We all agree that these holodeck scenes look REALLY similar to the pre-starchild ending sequence of 2001. I don't mean to say that this movie is a 2001 rip off- I mean, I couldn't- I haven't seen it. But the "Astronaut(s) in a pure white room in spacesuit(s) where the find that the driving source of existence is from another world" motif seems really similar. Note that in the trailer, when the three astronauts enter the 'chamber,' the opening door is a dead ringer for Clarke's monolith. Homage or theivery? I guess time will tell.
Jan. 25, 2000, 8:52 p.m. CST
by user id indeed!
The trailer was before Toy Story 2.It was great how every child in the audience went "Wha????" at the same time.
Jan. 25, 2000, 9:56 p.m. CST
I remember seeing the trailer, it struck me as kind of cool, but the ending voice over of "we've been looking on the wrong planet" gave me a little bit of a flashback to 2010 and 2063 by Clarke, what with all the weird going ons on Europa and such.....mysterious powers at work, etc...a little all too familiar.
Jan. 25, 2000, 10:50 p.m. CST
The holographic images in these pictures from Mars indicates that a technology superior to our own is a reality. Because of the divergent knowledge needed to produce such a photo realistic three-dimensional environment indicates a mastery of other types of technology such as, but not limited to, robotics, I propose that Mission to Mars is really about a Mission to THE IRON GIANT. The red planet gets it nick name because of the chemical oxidation between the atmosphere and the abundant iron found on the planets surface. With the alien technology firmly verified, and the availability of iron on the planet it becomes to startling a coincidence not to consider this to be a location of THE GIANTS origins. If I may be allowed a moment to speculate, I believe that the above photos are of a Martian map room in which flight plans for IRON GIANTs would be programed. I would speculate further that the 3 Earth travels are only moments away from entering into a large construction chamber that will house millions of moth balled IRON GIANTs. This movie will certainly be on my
Jan. 25, 2000, 11:14 p.m. CST
Jan. 25, 2000, 11:21 p.m. CST
I'd guess this is some sort of alien history lesson. Notice that Mars is green/brown/blue and covered with clouds. I'd bet they're going to say that life in the solar system started on Mars, and then moved here when some disaster struck, rendering Mars the lifeless hulk of a planet it is today. Just my guess, anyway.
Jan. 25, 2000, 11:28 p.m. CST
In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the first image shows the migration from Mars to Earth; all the little smoke trails are individual ships, that much can be seen.
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:36 a.m. CST
by Sith Lord Jesus
2001 is my fave science fiction film; CONTACT is also in my personal top 5. If this thing is half as good as those two it'll make the list as well. So far the images look great, but I must say I don't think it seems too much like a steal of Kubrick's masterpiece to me. Oh, and I like the life-origonated-elsewhere-then-moved-here motif; it could make for an interesting movie unless they handle it in a Richard Hoagland/Art Bell sensationalist manner. Either way I wanna see this.
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:38 a.m. CST
Looks like some dude in the FX department was smoking too much of the BAD Mauii Wowiie that morning. That dude should be fired! I'm getting all woozy headed just looking at that shit.
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:47 a.m. CST
OK... I still don't know what the hell is going on in those pictures... BUt, the solar system IS out of scale just like an earlier poster stated, and I'm not just taling about the size of those freakin' people (although, that's way off too...) But, look at the planets. How come Earth is the only planet with a Moon? Jupiter has like 16 moons! How could you miss every one of those? What's the excuse? They're all on the other side of the planet right now? And what about the 20-something that Saturn has? Where are those moons?
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:54 a.m. CST
No the planets aren't to scale, but if you knew much about how big Jupiter and Saturn really are, you'd realize that if they were shown that small, their moons would be invisible. Hell, you can fit 3 Earths in the big Spot on Jupiter, and none of the moons are as big as Earth. There are technical reasons why you wouldn't want to do a true scale model; with the Sun shown that big, it would still be more than a mile in daimeter (I think sometimes people forget the truly vast distances involved with space). If you wanted your display to tell a story with easily recognizable landmarks, distorting the scale is one way to go. Surely you realize that the individual ships shown in the first picture would be bigger than Rhode Island if it was truly to scale.
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:58 a.m. CST
Judging from these pictures, I think I can even guess what causes the cataclysm that destroys Mars. Notice that while Earth's moon is shown, there is nothing orbiting Mars. Wonder if it picked up a rogue body, as the Mars that we know today isn't alone. As explained above, there are technical reasons the moons of other planets wouldn't be visible, but Mars' moon would be visible at that scale.
Jan. 26, 2000, 12:58 a.m. CST
If the hologram thingy were in scale, it would take several football fields to accurately describe the size of the solar system (based on what I can judge the size of the sun to be relative to the people) and the terrestrial (non-gas giant) planets would be infitesimally small. And a possible reason you can't see the satellites of Jupiter and Saturn (to address ANGRY) is because proportionally they are much smaller than their primary orbital body...the moon/earth ratio is much larger than the Ganymede/Jupiter ratio. Combine that with the size distortion used to make the planets visible, and suddenly the Jovian and Saturnian moons become too small to see in such a pic. Anyway, looks cool. Can't wait to see this film...I need some REAL sci-fi, not this Episode I metaphysical hogwash. See you in the Hollow.
Jan. 26, 2000, 2:11 a.m. CST
by Frank Rizzo
Hey, has anyone ever gone to www.enterprisemission.com ? It is Richard Hoagland's site, you may have heard him on Art Bell. His theory is that the asteroid belt used to be a large planet, possibly with life, and Mars was it's moon. "Something" destroyed it and threw Mars into its weird orbit, along with destroying the Martian atmosphere. He also believes that a civilization once lived there and there are a few monuments left, ie the face on Mars, the 5-sided pyramid, and makes pretty good arguments against them being naturally occuring rock formations. Also massive proof that NASA's missions are completely planned and timed to pay homage to the gods of ancient Egypt and Freemasonry...
Jan. 26, 2000, 1 p.m. CST
No wonder they have big heads up North. Every time ILM is even remotely involved with any number of shots from any film, that overshadows the fact that other effects houses out there working on those same shows. A goodly chunk of the M2M shots are also being done in L.A. by TSL(formerly known as Dream Quest Images--Armageddon, Con Air, The Abyss, etc.)
Jan. 26, 2000, 3:05 p.m. CST
Again - these pictures look amazing! I don't know what is going to happen in these scenes in the movie, and I do appreciate everyone's guesses, but I am am dying to see this flick to find out!
Jan. 26, 2000, 3:07 p.m. CST
The reason that all you hear about is ILM's work on this movie is that most of the work was taken away from DQ(TSL) and given to ILM, just like all the work that DQ was supposed to do on "Tennesee".
Jan. 26, 2000, 8:46 p.m. CST
Since these guys have already been back in time for some reason with the talking pie, these pictures make sense now. An alien hologram.. of... course. Yes, that's feasible. But these aliens must have been very smart, since earth is the only planet in the picture with a moon, and the scale is so fucked up its funny. The only thing that can save this movie is for the talking pie to build a rocket from holograms and fly all the people home, while he stays behind and dies saving the world for some reason. And yes, RipReaver was right, Deep Impact was much better than Armageddon.
Jan. 27, 2000, 8:43 a.m. CST
by Mr Logic
This talk back is pretty evenly filled out by people with half a clue who realise that these are just pictures and give no indication of the quailty of the finished film and twits who fall for the hype and wax endlessy about how ``fucking awsome'' the pictures are whilst displaying their profound lack of knowledge about visual effects and the film industry in general. I notice no one bothered to notice the black dude has what looks like blood on his suit, wonder whats going on there mabye he got pissed of at the part from sliders and popped a cap in his ass.
March 9, 2000, 10:22 p.m. CST
I KNOW I parked it here, or maybe it was over there? Oh dear Oh deary me....