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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
Hey, look at that! Despite 14+ hours of travel I’m on time with this column! I have to thank Air New Zealand’s brilliant business class, which I was pleasantly surprised at being bumped up to, for me not being so dead that you’re not seeing this rather beautiful behind the scenes picture. So, if you’re mega rich or lucky enough to be bumped up like I was and traveling to/from New Zealand, I highly recommend their business class!
So, I’m here at the Hilton Anaheim getting ready for my first D23, which begins tomorrow, as well as my first visit to Disneyland in over a decade. With Disney on my mind, I went searching for a great classic Disney animation picture and found one at Alt Film Guide from one of my favorite early Disney picture and one that most Disney execs wish was never made: Song of the South.
I even talked to an ex-Disney Studios head honcho once and asked if we’d ever see a DVD release of Song of the South and his response: “No way. That movie’s racist!” I asked him if he’d ever seen it. He paused and said, “Well, no…” That’s the problem. The reputation of this movie has become the identity of the movie. Sure, the Tar Baby sequence carries a lot of negative connotations with it, but I wouldn’t call the film racist, nor would most who watch it beginning to end.
Uncle Remus is just about as likable a character as any to appear on cinema's screens, but doesn’t come across as pandering. There’s a reason James Baskett won an Oscar, the first African-American man to be awarded the award. It was an honorary Oscar as the 1948 Academy Awards weren’t exactly as inclusive as they became in later years. In fact, Baskett wasn’t even allowed to go to the Atlanta premiere because of the heavily segregated south at that time.
Baskett makes Remus a character not a caricature and it’s a damn shame that his ground-breaking work is being kept hidden in the Disney vault.
Not only is Baskett’s work not fully celebrated, but also some of the great Disney animation as well, including work by one Milt Kahl, one of the 9 Old Men. Mr. Kahl and Br’er Rabbit feature in today’s great picture.
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If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at quint@aintitcool.com.
Tomorrow’s behind the scenes pic continues the Disney love with Uncle Walt making an appearance.
-Quint
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hrmm?
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This movie isn't racist... I saw it when I was a kid in the theaters in 187 or so, and I loved it.
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Some uncultured fuck has stolen the Brer Rabbit statute from the Uncle Remus Museum in Eatonton, GA. Probably some meth-head wanting to sell it for scrap metal.
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Aug 18, 2011 11:26:38 PM CDT
So glad I have a Japanese Laserdisc & a beautiful 16mm print of this film
by headgeek
A truly great film. I've shown this movie to many friends of many races and all have loved it. And it sure does seem to take place during RECONSTRUCTION and not the Civil War. Pretty sure Uncle Remus couldn't pick up and just leave with a mule during active slavery.
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Is this where the term "tar baby" came from?
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I've seen Song of the South, and its depiction of blacks is much better than that of Gone with the Wind's, which receives far less flack and has never been called "racist" that I can remember. Plus, "Song" has a black man as its central character - and James Baskett's portrayal of Uncle Remus is wonderful. Warm, wise and avuncular, he was my second-favorite human Disney character next to Mary Poppins when I was a kid. His storytelling and his singing - especially when he sings "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" and the scene bursts into technicolor animated life - were unforgettable. What a damn shame political correctness is keeping this gem of a film locked in a vault. Kudos to you, Quint, for showcasing it here. I wish to heck I had a good copy of it - all I've got is youtube, sigh...
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Aug 18, 2011 11:37:30 PM CDT
Not racist at all. It's a classic and Disney has released it before.
by quake ii
The all new modern PC Disney thinks it's racist but the film has been released a few times on laserdisc and VHS in the 1980's. The later VHS version cuts out the "tar baby" scene. Either way, the movie is easy to get on ripped laserdisc-to-dvd transfers online (try ioffer.com). I bought mine on Ebay. The music and characters are fantastic and Disney has buried a movie that truly is better than a lot of the crap they DO have available on dvd. But we're talking about a company that won't allow swastikas & Nazis in a World War 2 movie (Captain America) so this isn't suprising at all.
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Aug 18, 2011 11:40:13 PM CDT
Never seen hide nor hair of it on any channel or on any video store shelf in my entire life.
by stargrove
Once rented the read-along story book with audio cassette tape from my library when I was a little one and pretty much all I remember was the Zip-A-Dee-Doo tune. The Disney thought police have done a bang up job convincing future generations it has never existed. It's like Fahrenheit 451 with mouse ears.
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While the white adults come off more negatively. If anything, it shows us Southern Whites had a strong tendency to be condescending, patronizing douchebags. The black adults and all the kids come off great. And yeah, the story is set AFTER slavery was abolished, so context is everything.
Overly sensitive types lambasted the movie saying that "the slaves are too happy" with segregation. But that's not even the issue here. Uncle Remus is a slave, and though the film CLEARLY shows that whites have a superior attitude, Remus is no fool, nor does he ever lose his self-respect. He's honorable, and his optimism lifts everyone around him - including those whites that initially considered and/or treated him a subordinate.
Disney's PR machine COULD completely turn the tide of opinion on this with some simple statements and the right people (like Bill Cosby or James Earl Jones) explaining what's been misunderstood. Wouldn't be surprised if James Baskett was a huge, early inspiration to many black actors we now celebrate in film and tv. -
Aug 18, 2011 11:45:18 PM CDT
This movie always reminds me of Bob Smigel's TV Funhouse short of the Disney vault
by jzm
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1521/saturday-night-live-disney-vault-vt
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Aug 18, 2011 11:54:58 PM CDT
stargrove...Ebay has several studio-released VHS tapes right now
by quake ii
They seem to run about 50 bucks. They are all the second VHS release which edited out the "tar baby" sequence. I have a fan-made dvd copy that includes the original uncut film as well as some bonus features, radio spots and full menu. I would rather pay the 15.00 online and get a VHS or laser-to-dvd transfer. Song Of The South is EASY to get on dvd with a simple bing search.
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Disney has no balls when it comes to their own works,...I mean,..erasing a fucking cigarette from Pecos Bill?....and then plainly showing it in other scenes.....
There are a BUNCH more neg to blacks scenes in their shorts and the WW2 stuff was released...so what gives?...SOTS won an academy award for pete's sake.
This and Warner's banned 13(or whatever) are time capsules,...good ones at gauging how far we have come in relations...
Nobody said they had to do a marketing blitz,...just release them.
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...but Jar Jar Binks is Stepin Fetchit incarnate? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
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Aug 19, 2011 12:13:44 AM CDT
SotS should have been included in a DISNEY TREASURES tin...
by justmyluck
... where Leonard Maltin gave, you know, the advance 'disclaimers' on smoking, period race relations, etc.
Hopefully it will eventually see the light of Blu-ray. -
...of this movie uncut. When I was little, we had a friend in a local movie store that was acting as a mid stop for a bunch of VHS tapes that were being shipped to China for release there. Several copies were to be "demos" and the staff got them and gave some copies to friends and family. It's fun to see the Chinese subtitles across the bottom of the screen.
Then, just a couple of years ago, I was wandering the Dealer's Room at Dragon*Con and there was this guy selling copies he'd burned on DVD. Uncut and without subtitles, and it's a BEAUTIFUL transfer. I bought all 4 copies he had. Gave one to my parents, one for me, and one for two fellow Disney fans that I knew would want them.
It's really a shame they won't release it. And kinda dumb. I mean, they have a whole freaking ride in Orlando dedicated to it! -
Aug 19, 2011 12:31:29 AM CDT
quake ii, 50 clams for a banged up VHS with tape that may have turned to powder?
by stargrove
That might not be the route I'm willing to go. Hunting down a DVD transfer of a VHS might just be the best and safest way to insure a copy with an acceptable picture and audio quality. I would love to get a copy of Song of the South though. The only time I have heard it since was Chevy Chase crooning it in the Fletch 2 musical number. Thanks for the info.
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God help us when some suit with a big yellow streak up their back really can stop us from seeing a film with just a couple mouse clicks.
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well done Quint! have an awesome time at D23, would love to be there. i'd love a nice big write up of it from you if you get the chance although smaller news stories would be ok ;-)
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Why can't everyone else be black and powerful?
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Aug 19, 2011 1:19:10 AM CDT
Song - Song of the South - Sweet Potato Pie and Shut my Mouth
by professor_monster
Gone, gone with the wind
There ain't nobody looking back again
Cotton on the roadside, cotton in the ditch
We all picked the cotton but we never got rich
Daddy was a veteran, a southern democrat
They oughta get a rich man to vote like that
Sing it...
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...and re-framed on all releases. Poor "Sunflower".
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Aug 19, 2011 2:12:52 AM CDT
I've seen MODERN films that are way more racist and should be locked in a vault instead.
by little_lebowski
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Aug 19, 2011 2:13:51 AM CDT
THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG AND THE NEW WINNIE THE POOH WERE CREATED USING SOFTWARE.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toon_Boom
It's time that studios realize that we are living in an era where audiences love 1977 style fantasy, cartoons, StonerAnimation, and there has been absolutely NOTHING past those first few movies of the Eisner era, or the Ralph Bakshi films that have taken those chances or been as effective at presenting fastasy.
fantasy meaning true magic is the most important ingredient.
nothing appeals to the most organic inuitive side of the human imagination like drawings. real flickering drawings.
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or you get this-
http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/e/e4/Bambi_II.jpg
and this-
http://homepage.mac.com/merussell/iblog/B835531044/C969231614/E20060113105450/Media/hoodwinked2.jpg
look for "Rights For Cartoons" on facebook groups.
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I love seeing the vintage behind-the-scenes Disney shots. This is a great one, Quint.
I purchased an original Disney Video VHS copy of this just last week on UK eBay for a little over £5.
Haven't seen it for over 25 years and cannot wait to rewatch. -
Aug 19, 2011 3:32:09 AM CDT
Yes, I want all copies of Dumbo thrown in the Disney vault too!
by mister death
If they want to purge any racist stereo types in all past Disney productions....the scare crow mag-pies in Dumbo are CLEARLY a product of their period. The black map-pies with their step in fetch it mannerisms and language are WAY more racist then Br'er Rabbit or the live actors, by a country mile. Of course they ignored that bit of animation! Disney has been Dumbo sized asses about Song Of The South since the late 1980's. I recall Song Of The South was re-released in theaters for generations up until the mid 80's before the VHS format forced Disney to move into the home market with the Disney achieves. What's funny is that if you walk through a Disney theme park and you'll hear "Zipty-Do-Dah..." played near Splash Mountain, it must be the ghost of Uncle Remus. As a child of the 1970's who saw Song Of The South in theaters, I figured my memory was too hazy. That there was some scene or context that exposed racial hatred in a Birth Of A Nation style loathing of African Americans that I may have forgotten. I've seen Song Of The South in the last few years from an Asian print with no cuts and there is just nothing racially offensive. Somebody from Disney please point an actual scene out. Song Of The South will be 65 years old in November ! Disney could easily license this off to the Criterion people whom I'm sure would make a tasteful and introspective DVD.
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In that Disney was quite comfortable with certain images of black people, and not others. In their entire 20th century output, there wasn't a single clear frame of an animated black man or woman. MAYBE the "roustabouts" in Dumbo were supposed to be black--but you can't make them out. The crows were clearly racist stereotypes--voiced by white men with "black" dialect. But Disney had uncounted millions of frames of clearly deliniated human beings, and obviously avoided black people even in the two movies set in Africa. So it is reasonable to hold them to task for promoting a particular image that White America is comfortable with--the harmless old black man, no longer sexually competitive, who nurtures white children.
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Now, that said, in 2011, Disney has made some serious strides. With the death of the old guard (and that's what it takes--old white men dying off and being replaced by younger blood born post-Civil Rights) you have films like "Princess and the Frog" which were damned fine steps in the right direction. Not perfect--they very deliberately wouldn't give her a black love interest, choosing instead a prince of indeterminate "Middle Eastern" (sort of) heritage (and yeah, I talked with one of the film's creators about that. A very, very deliberate move on their part). But having done that, and also the black character in "Fantasia 2000" and "Atlantis" etc, I think it perfectly reasonable to revisit the question of "Song of the South." It should be released, I think.
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Doesn't mean a lot to me, considering his avoidance of giving pictures of black people in this series, and the insult of, when finally doing it, showing a black man in black face. He thinks this is funny. He's as sensitive as a rock.
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Would be cut up anyway like Peter Pan. Or even changed. Remember Han shot first!
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Disney calculated how much it stood to make on the video sales and subtracted the estimated cost of the lawsuits and resulting P.R. hit. The video would be released for a loss. They won't do it until this math changes.
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Aug 19, 2011 6:56:42 AM CDT
Also - are we advocating that "Birth of a Nation" should never bee seen again? Discuss....
by trollspotting
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Aug 19, 2011 6:59:04 AM CDT
Newborn rape in A Serbian Film = the right to be seen. Antiquated racial stereotypes in Song of the South = never should be released.
by trollspotting
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The crows in that were black too. Actually that whole movie is racist. Where are the white people? Segregation at its worst.
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Aug 19, 2011 7:27:29 AM CDT
Okay, on a serious note, correct me if I'm wrong but in
by grammaton cleric binks
the Uncle Remus stories about Brer Rabbit when Brer Fox makes a tar baby, I mean literally a statue out of tar, and Brer Rabbit gets stuck to it we are literally talking about a baby made of tar. So, if it is used in that context how is it racist. Also, what came first; the racial slure or the object itself. That's like me saying for some reason I find the word marshmallow racist because I think you're using it to refer to fat old white guys or something. It's an object, but I find it racist, so now you have to stop using the word marshmallow.
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Aug 19, 2011 7:29:15 AM CDT
I think someone point it out correctly. Uncle Remus is the rural equivalent of
by grammaton cleric binks
Mary Poppins. He's just a sweet old guy telling stories, and singing songs to kids. The last time the movie was released on the big screen may have been the 80s. I believe as a teen, or later I saw the commercials for its re-release.
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Aug 19, 2011 7:36:03 AM CDT
BET is more racist and dehumanizing to the blacks than this movie ever could be
by alienindisguise
I don't see Disney chucking Snow White in the trash because it was Hitler's favorite movie. Disney are nothing but pussies.
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Aug 19, 2011 8:03:19 AM CDT
The guy who writes The Boondocks is always criticizing BET for the same reason.
by grammaton cleric binks
While he discusses race issues, Aaron McGruder that's it, he's not racist. It's not like the if you disagree with me you're racist crap which we see so prevalent. In one strip he drew once he wrote something to the effect that to move the comic up to the level of BET to help black culture he presents this, and then drew a picture of a black women's gyrating buttocks as he put it. He hit it dead on.
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Ha Ha, now we can blame all this mess on the Marshmallow man, you know all the white collar mess, wink wink, were in.
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Ha ha........
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The movie is wonderful and fun. I loved it as a kid back in the 70s when you could actually get a chance to watch it before the race baiters managed to scare everybody into submission.
There is NOTHING racist about this film. The Disney execs seriously need to set up the film for them to view, find out how the film does not live up to the bad rep, and then do what Warner did with their Looney Tunes cartoons that were more deserving of their reputation for the same thing and actually release the film on Blu-ray and DVD. If they feel the need, they could even issue a disclaimer on it as Warner did, though I don't see the need. The few who complain will fade into silence and obscurity once people actually see the film isn't deserving of it's racist tag. -
but never really bothered to watch it. the quality wasn't that good. looked like it was ripped off a worn out vhs. i would like to see a dvd just because i have no idea what the hell is going on during the splash mountain ride. i get the gist of it, but the whole thing seems like one long acid trip out of context of the story.
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...when the Splash Mountain ride in the Magic Kingdom is based off of this movie.
If my memory serves me correctly, I believe the ride substitutes the tar baby with Brer Rabbit being trapped in a bee hive or something. -
One of my earliest movie going experiences that I remember is going to see "The Song of The South" when I was 4yr old with my Aunt.
I loved this movie and was totally all out little kid enraptured by the Disney animation and the songs in the film too...I mean come on, what little kid wound't get "Zippie Doo Dah" stuck in hos or hers head and have fun singing it until you annoyed the hell out of your parent, realitives and sibilings?!
Sooooooo....if this movie is "racist" and should never be released on Blu-Ray....what's to say that someone would take offense with "Aladdin" for having Middle Eastern characters in the storyline? What's to say someone wouldn't take offense with "Princess and The Frog" for those non-white characters?
What I am trying to say is..."Song of The South" is a piece of Disney history and a terrific piece of animation and SHOULD be released on fully restored Blu-ray DVD and included in anyone's Disney Blu-ray/animation collection.
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When it's merely a record of the times? Uncle Remus is the hero of the story, how is it racist? It's racist because blacks were once slaves? History. Deal with it. Babies.
This makes about as much sense as Jar Jar is Stephan Fetchit, which in my 25+ years on the planet at the time, had NO clue what that meant. SO thanks for reviving an old racist stereotype for a new generation. Otherwise, it would have faded to the dustbins of history. WAY TO GO, SCHLOMO! -
Aug 19, 2011 10:03:08 AM CDT
I was lucky enough to see this film in a theater as a kid.
by thetoiletbrush
My Dad is Southern and took us to see it. I think that I had a "Little Golden Book" tie-in as well. Wish I could find it, must be worth a fortune.
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Aug 19, 2011 10:37:22 AM CDT
Amazing that those jive-talkin', good-tooth sporting caricature robots in Transformers get a cultural pass...
by nasty in the pasty
...but a genuine work of ART like Song Of The South gets buried in the Disney Vault never to be seen again. What bullshit.
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I'm a huge fan of 2D hand drawn animation, but I think you must have some large misunderstandings of what digital ink and paint software is used for.
Toon Boom is an Ink and Paint software. I've used it. Those movies you are referencing were still hand drawn. The software is used to ink the lines and fill the color after the penciling stage. And guess what, real people, using their real hands, on real tablets use that software to ink and paint the cells, just in a digital environment.
As for your reference to 1977 style "hand drawn animation", Disney in those years was not hand inking their cells. They had switched to PHOTOCOPYING the pencil drawings to get the inked black lines onto cells, instead of using real people with real art materials to ink in the lines. You can thank that mechanical process for the sketchy (and some say ugly) look of films such as The Rescuers (1977) and many of their films in the 80s.
Disney has used Digital Ink and Paint since 1989, starting with The Little Mermaid I believe.
Its not using software to help finish animation that is the problem, its when artists use shortcuts such as photocopying (in the 70s) and letting the software correct their lines (the 2000s) that sucks the life out of animation. -
Aug 19, 2011 11:08:43 AM CDT
The movie is not racist, nor are the Uncle Remus stories
by franks_television
They are faithful renditions of black American folklore told in the dialect spoken by the people who created them, and more importantly they are just really great stories.
The Tar Baby story is actually based on a native american fable, and there is nothing racist about the concept at all. It refers to an actual dummy made of tar and serves as a brilliant metaphor for when a person makes a benign situation into something much worse through their own poorly thought out actions. It’s a very useful metaphor, and it is a shame that people aren’t allowed to use it because of misplaced political correctness. The Uncle Remus stories are full of stuff like that. -
Aug 19, 2011 11:16:33 AM CDT
The actual tar baby idea predates the racial slur.
by franks_television
The concept actually comes from a native american fable. It’s not in any way racist.
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We need POSITIVE black role models for kids today, like Lil Wayne and Akon... NO KINDLY OLD BLACK MEN TELLING STORIES TO LONELY WHITE CHILDREN! IT'S RACIST!!
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Aug 19, 2011 11:19:17 AM CDT
Forget about an official release in physical media
by creamcheesealchemist
This was a movie the NAACP protested upon its original release. What they wanted back in the 40s was something aspirational. For a historical period where African Americans were entering politics, SotS is very much a missed opportunity that has implications of black people sublimating their lives and families for white people. Yes, it also suggests interracial friendship but for certain people, the Uncle Tomming is a bigger issue.
As for the ride, Splash Mountain got funded because it was a great value with almost all its characters coming from the America Sings attraction and, presumably, the movie is familiar to international visitors and from singalong videos.
The image of this movie on store shelves would be a gift to news media, treasures set or not. I predict it will be part of a vault Disney streaming program (think iTunes crossed with hulu), full of things you wouldn't show kids (story of menstruation) or they wouldn't have any interest in. I'm not even sure SotS would engage kids today. -
Aug 19, 2011 11:55:19 AM CDT
franks_television, I thought that was the case.
by grammaton cleric binks
Sure I can see someone black getting upset if you called them a tar baby. However, that does not mean the word used in its proper context is racists. Those stupid marshmallows need to stop it.
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And for good reason. It's excellent.
It's a shame this will never see the light of day on Blu-ray.
And lao_che_air_freight is right. This is precisely why physical media must never die. -
Aug 19, 2011 12:11:55 PM CDT
fustfick, that's cool, but how have your kids seen it?
by grammaton cleric binks
Did you "find" a copy somewhere? This is a beautiful story of a kindly old man helping others and cheering them up. To call this racist is a load of crap.
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I need to watch this today before Disney finds out.
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As someone points out, this movie is the basis for the Splash Mountain ride at Disneyworld. The ride features all the non-human characters and several of the songs. The ride is a fucking CELEBRATION of the B'rer characters.
Yet, perhaps not so oddly, when you get off the ride, there aren't the themed gifts that you find for every other ride. You can't by stuffed B'rer rabbits and can't get the soundtrack. Just absurd, and more than a little hypocritical.
I remember seeing the movie at Disneyworld in the Contemporary Hotel's theater in 1979. What year did the movie become racist????
Uncle Remus' tales have been around forever. Sure, the movie version pumps up black stereotypes, but subverting the fucking thing only makes it strong. Better to push the movie out there, acknowledge that it's grossly dated and represents racial stereotypes, then use it as a teaching tool.
I love Disney, but they seriously continue to poon this one out. -
Jar Jar Binks is racist as hell!
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..and loved it.
Fuck the racism crap from the House of jew-haters.... -
on dvd with commentary by Whoopi Goldberg explaining the importance of acknowledging the past in order to keep from repeating it. Why can't they could do the same with this movie?
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Aug 19, 2011 2:13:10 PM CDT
Holy crap, Eddie Murphy stole from Song of the South.
by grammaton cleric binks
Check out part 6 starting at 4:30. It's half his Uncle Gun barbecue routine.
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but there is just no rehabilitating it after the Nazis got through with it.
In short, it is not the object, it is the perception of it that makes a difference.
Some times washed and clean hands still smell like shit.
It may not be the material it is based on it, it may not even be the plot and characters of the movie, but it is has the stink of racism to it for all sorts of historical and cultural reasons and it is that perception which matters to to Disney.
Can you blame them? -
Actually my memories of it were fond, albeit, I can't recall a good chunk the flick other than other than glimpses of Brer Rabbit and Remus. I think I saw it in the 80's when I was 4. Either way, it's pretty bad when the reputation of anything is so bad everyone acknowledges its existence as evil without seeing it. I think Disney should take the Warner approach a release it acknowledging its history and go on from there. This prejudice with your own material not only shows how phony they are as a company but guilt they have within.
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Disney is an entertainment company. If you must see this movie, it's not hard to get. Disney just knows the money it would make from an official release would sully the entire brand. I don't think it's possible for a mass release when it is the only animated feature with a black male lead from this company.
But I propose the following subtext: Remus and the grandmother have the same father. A dirty family secret, but hardly a unique one.
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