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Nordling here.

Well, this is a surprise, and yet, maybe not.  December 2012 was stacked with big tentpole releases, including THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY, WORLD WAR Z, Spielberg's LINCOLN, and Tarantino's DJANGO UNCHAINED.  So it looks like Disney's pulled the plug on THE LONE RANGER.   THE LONE RANGER wasn't small potatoes in comparison to those other titles - Johnny Depp probably brings in more box office than Brad Pitt these days, and the two were going head-to-head on December 21st, 2012.  It sounds like it could have been budget issues.  I can't imagine a Western would need a very big budget but with Gore Verbinski directing and Depp starring, the price tag was likely a hefty one.

It's unfortunate as I think the casting was good, the director's established, and since it seemed like they were going to the roots of the original story, I think audiences would have come.  No word on whether Disney will return to the film, but putting a stop to a Jerry Bruckheimer film is a pretty bold move, and I'm sure there will be repercussions with Bruckheimer and Disney because of it.

Nordling, out.



Beaks here with some additional thoughts...

$250 million for THE LONE RANGER? Too fucking high.

So Disney has shitcanned its long-in-development revival of the George W. Trendle/Fran Striker serial because producer Jerry Bruckheimer couldn't get the production's budget close enough to $200 million? This after the fourth installment of Bruckheimer's PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN franchise grossed $1 billion worldwide? Kinda crazy.

It's surprising Disney would say no to Bruckheimer, but absolutely stunning that they'd pass on the opportunity to create a second in-house franchise for Johnny Depp. He is the biggest star on the planet right now - especially overseas. Even the critically-maligned THE TOURIST raked in $210 milion internationally. Something has to be really wrong to slam the brakes on a Depp-toplined project in 2011.

We can't say for certain why Disney got cold feet, but as Michael Fleming notes in the Deadline story, the gross participation for Bruckheimer, Depp and Verbinski would've been considerable. Basically, THE LONE RANGER would've had to do PIRATES 4-level business to justify the greenlight. And since the film is based on 100% American iconography, the studio would've had to mount a massive international marketing campaign to sell the film to moviegoers who don't know the first fucking thing about Tonto.

And that might've done it. More and more, studios are thinking internationally first when it comes to developing tentpoles. They would prefer to set their mega-budgeted films in universes where the protagonist's nationality is indistinct or, at the very least, unimportant. This was true when THE LONE RANGER was announced back in 2008, but it's of particular importance now - and it's possible that Disney decided they'd just rather make another Jack Sparrow movie, and, perhaps, have Bruckheimer develop something different for Depp.

But does Depp feel any real loyalty to the current Disney regime? He was incredibly fond of former chairman Dick Cook (who played a crucial role in convincing Depp to play Captain Jack Sparrow), but I'm not he's as close to Rich Ross and Sean Bailey. That said, Disney did just buy two Depp-shepherded projects (a film version of THE NIGHT STALKER and a historical drama about Paul Revere's Midnight Ride), so perhaps Depp has cooled on playing Tonto. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few months. An appearance from Depp at next week's D23 would be huge.

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  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by unkempt_sock

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I WAS

    by unkempt_sock


  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Cowboys & Aliens flop fallout?

    by odysseus

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    oh well

    by Motfilms

    Depp is just phoning it in now anyway

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Oh well....Pirates 5 maybe

    by doom master

    and fuck us all if that happens...

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Now Depp can do Dr. Strange

    by Vespalad

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Verbinsky's having bad luck

    by Bass Ackwards

    BioShock and now this. I probably would have watched this flick at some point, that said, I'm not all that broken up that it isn't happening. Bigger concern is that reports noting that John Carter has been going through extensive reshoots. Not a promising sign, especially following that shitty trailer.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I don't think Lone Ranger is a very big draw

    by jimmy_009

    with the under 60 crowd. I don't really see how you can update this kind of western to have mass appeal. It's not like pirates where you can have ghosts and what not. It's just a guy on a horse. Big whoop. Good call on the cancel.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    A damn shame

    by coosawatchie

    I think Disney is leaving a lot of money on the table

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    I was looking forward to this

    by sith_rising

    I so rarely get to say this anymore

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    It's just a guy on a horse.

    by Bass Ackwards

    Which makes me wonder what they could have possibly been planning to have this flick budgeted at $250 million.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Does the Lone Ranger have super powers? I forget.

    by dahveed1972


  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Remember when a $200 million movie was considered impossible?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Now, it's so commonplace it's fucking scary. HOW DO MOVIES COST THIS MUCH?! You'd think, with the advent of CGI, movies would cost LESS, but they're more ludicrously expensive than ever, even for films like a Western that don't NEED big budgets to succeed. All you need are horses and firearms. THAT'S IT! How much can renting a few dozen fucking HORSES really cost?! That's one reason I admired Rise Of The Planet Of The awesome movie that const a comparitively thrifty $80 million with no loss of quality. And what about District 9? Only THIRTY MILLION, and it looked GREAT.

  • They're gonna have to fork over even more cash to him for the next Pirates film.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST

    At least we still have Hong Kong Fooey to look forward to.

    by dahveed1972

    plus Smurfs 2-3, god willing.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST

    With the success of TRUE GRIT it's time for some new Westerns

    by MooseMalloy

    And I do mean "Western".

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:47 p.m. CST

    This is an outrage. AN OUTRAGE.

    by frank

    Nah, I don’t really care.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:48 p.m. CST

    awwww man...I almost cared

    by gk1

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Let's get Bioshock back on track

    by solanine

    Come on, a video game adaptation has gotta happen at some point or another. Right? Guys?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    er, a good one I meant

    by solanine


  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Always follow the $$$

    by Brock

    Sounds like Disney got cold feet after the disappointing box office of Cowboys & Aliens. As far as Depp goes... they will do Pirates 5. As for you who say Pirates 4 sucked so they should not make a 5... Just remember that On Stranger Tides made a billion dollars worldwide this year. You can hate it all you want. Fact is these movies are a cash cow for Disney and people still go and see them. U.S box office was down, world was up. In the end, Depp, Bruck, and Disney will be just fine with each other as they count their money and laugh while we moan about this stuff. Money rules. Not opinions.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    BIOSHOCK, YOU FUCKER! Get it done!

    by ROBRAM89

    Don't take no for an answer this time. IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS BROW?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Call me a cynic, but I couldn't see this finding an audience.

    by Kamaji

    The last couple Bruckheimer-produced films with the exception of Potc failed to do much (Prince of Persia and Sorcerer's Apprentice). Plus, this felt like it was gonna be a repeat of what Disney did with Alice in Wonderland: plaster Depp over the majority of the advertising and give him top billing, even though he's a side-character.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Oh no, not again

    by bellscorners

    What on earth shall I watch if I have no lone ranger? I suggest a mash movie starring that thin, goth chick from ginger snaps as a fighter jet pilot in space, while she thinks back to her days in cubicle-land when she was stalked by a monster that looks like the chest-thingee from total recall. fuck y'all and your beans.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    We need a re-tooled X-files.

    by SmokingRobot

    They fucked that franchise pretty hard in the last few seasons and the last movie. But the concept still has life in it. After 40 years we finally got a decent 'Planet/Apes' movie, so anything is possible.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit! $250 Million?!

    by The Bear

    How the hell does a Lone Ranger movie cost $250 million? Will the Lone Ranger and Tonto be fighting the Army of Gold? Will they use CGI to make Johnny Depp look like a 12-year-old in every scene? Were Depp and the director divying up $100 million of it? What the hell was in that script?!!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Someone or Somebody really messed up...

    by BlackBriar

    on this one. This could of been a huge money machine.. You could make a great film with a little money Just look at District 9 or Insidious...

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Western genre not actually working overseas.

    by Se7en

    That, is why.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    I really doubt it's the price tag... I bet it's what the vibe would be...

    by Andrew Coleman

    I bet Verbinski wanted more of a Indian Jones type film. Where Disney most likely wanted a comedy. Where Depp bounces around like a drunk moron and the Ranger falls off his horse or some shit. Hollywood only seems interested in making things comedies. Look at the fucking Green Hornet. Yeah that fucking worked... This is too bad this was one movie I was actually looking forward to. Thanks Disney make another bland Pirates movie set mostly in a boring jungle. Or maybe Cars 3... Boo to this.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:43 p.m. CST

    What happened to incessantly pimping ATTACK THE BLOCK?

    by Horace Cox

    I'm guessing that when chavs are attacking the block for real by looting, burning, and committing acts of violence, no one really wants to see them portrayed as heroes.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah...250 MILLION???!!!

    by Lord Elric

    What...the hell. Filmmakers need to start learning a little fiscal responsibility, man. that's a ridiculous number for...THE LONE RANGER! Which I loved, but is still maybe 3 generations removed from the average moviegoer. And yeah 2 Westerns out at the same time? Some quick predicting from the ghost of Criswell: DJANGO UNCHAINED: Won't break 100 million. Decent, not spectacular take. WORLD WAR Z: Sorry fanboys. I dunno what the big to do is about it but it'll do O'KAY, but it won't be AVATAR. LINCOLN. Again, a good take but I wouldn't bet my studio on it. Note, this has NOTHING to do with how good it'll be. It's Spielberg, which means it'll be nothing less then excellent,creatively. Spielberg is a God. THE HOBBIT. MASSIVE hit. We're talking HARRY POTTER part 2 numbers, only with more sustaining power. Kneel before the might of Peter Jackson.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Good, make 3 original movies instead?

    by Autodidact


  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Why? Cowboys & Aliens, that's why.

    by bluetunehead

    2011's big summer western has yet to cross 100 million domestically, and is looking like a giant flop unless it becomes a massive success at home. For more, just look at how Westerns have played in the last few years (hint: not well). Disney looked at the box office numbers and then looked at Verbinski's budget and said no thanks. I can't imagine The Lone Ranger would have been a big success. It's a decades old franchise that is completely removed from modern sensibilities. At 250 million (?? Jesus...) that's way too big of a risk.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Yep, thanks to Cowboys and Aliens totally.

    by dead youngling

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    yup...cowboys & aliens sucked...

    by nuprin they should do something more fuckin' BIOSHOCK

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Right Westerns don't do well...

    by Andrew Coleman

    True Grit... Owned. Also Cowboys and Aliens was pretty cool. Don't blame westerns for being the reason morons didn't go see it. Blame it's horrible... And I mean horrible title. The trolls that stand with the "westerns are dead" or whatever type slogans. You do realize who you are standing with right? I'll give you time to guess.... Retard tweens. The cunts who stand in line for Twilight. Busy facebook statusing on their phones they don't "get" westerns. Mainly because they don't have pale "hotties" in them and lack "trendy" language. Westerns don't usually have jokes about pop culture in them so they find them pointless. Standing against Westerns makes it clear you're either a tween girl who likes Twilight or possibly something worse.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    lord elric... BO predictions seem right on...

    by Andrew Coleman

    I don't expect any of those films to be huge hits. Maybe Lincoln if Americans are feeling patriotic. But I actually believe the Hobbit will under perform. Places like here and other sites that mainly nerds go to I've only seen hate flung at that movie. Now most of them will see it anyway we all know that but will major audiences really go for this? Maybe but for some reason I see it "not meeting expectations" and for sure not meeting matching Potter 7 numbers. But maybe I'll be wrong. Though I'm the exact opposite as most who come here... I want most movies to do well.

  • It makes so sense for a budget of that magnitude.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    I was kinda excited about this one.


    I think the Cowboys & Aliens-related speculation is probably correct. Thanks, Favreau, for churning out the most boring piece of cinema of the summer (year?) and possibly killing off studio westerns for many years to come.

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  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    BYE OH SILVER !!!!!


    ( GO ) AWAY !!!!!!!!

  • I'm just saying! Anyone seen "Mousehunt" or "The Mexican" recently? I like the first POTC movie and "The Ring", but $250 mill on a Lone Ranger movie? I just don't see it...

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    So 200 million is not enough enough..

    by IKilledSuperman make a fucking western? Riiiight!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    "John Carter" is costing Disney $300 million?

    by Zardoz

    That's probably another major reason right there!

  • That would easily explain why the cost went upward to $250 million. But yeah, one reason why Disney killed this is because of C&A under-performing, but the studio also has been throwing a shitload of money into other potential franchises (Tron Legacy and the upcoming John Carter). As for the argument that there is a market for good westerns, and citing True Grit as an example: True Grit was made for less than $40 million.

  • That would explain the extreme budget costs, and maybe even why Verbinski was interested in directing (all of his recent movies have had fantasy elements). Hell, maybe the script has a stage-coach that transforms into an ornithopter, for all we know. Cowboys & Aliens' failure at the box office probably contributed to at least this version of The Lone Ranger being cancelled by Disney.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Fifty Ninth !

    by charabicharabia

    250 share within a few....such a will they send their kids to ivy league colleges now? for the love of God....has the world gone mad?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    $20 Million can make a kick-ass Lone Ranger movie.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    No reason to go above $20,000,000 for a western. Those western states will practically let you shoot for free. They're just happy with the film crews spending their beer money. No need for special effects of the CGI variety. 3 rising or fading stars, a half dozen character actors, and a practical stunt crew. One tentpole movie could finance 12 westerns a year; 1 per month... that would be awesome. Fuck TV.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:57 a.m. CST

    I don't care if Depp is involved - that's too much money

    by JuanSanchez

    How do you arrive at that budget for a Lone Ranger movie? Spend a hundred million above the line?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:58 a.m. CST

    This is the Lone Rangers Creed...

    by Odkin

    I believe that to have a friend, a man must be one. That all men are created equal and that everyone has within himself the power to make this a better world. That God put the firewood there but that every man must gather and light it himself. In being prepared physically, mentally, and morally to fight when necessary for that which is right. That a man should make the most of what equipment he has. That 'This government, of the people, by the people and for the people' shall live always. That men should live by the rule of what is best for the greatest number. That sooner or later... somewhere...somehow... we must settle with the world and make payment for what we have taken. That all things change but truth, and that truth alone, lives on forever. In my Creator, my country, my fellow man." ------ All probably too controversial for modern Hollywood. And no way would "a fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty "Hi Yo Silver!" " cost anywhere near $200 million.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:03 a.m. CST truly is a Creed

    by charabicharabia

    Followed by NO ONE in Hollywood. Well put !

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:03 a.m. CST

    What did the first ZORRO cost?

    by BenBraddock

    It had no CGI but a good cast, director and script, and it was a fun, entertaining movie. Cleaned up. That's how they should have gone with THE LONE RANGER.

  • Jerry should still be on a leash after those two half a billion dollar fuck ups.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST


    by exposedfilm

    He was set to star in George Miller's Justice League before it was cancelled, and then he nabs the title role in The Lone Ranger and guess what, cancelled! Dude can't catch a break.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST

    (singing) There is a God, he loves us all so much.....

    by Keith Maniac

    Now he needs to speak to Warners about the alleged Lethal Weapon reboot and the deeply troubling rumblings sometime ago about remaking Dirty Harry.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:50 a.m. CST

    I really, REALLY wanna lick Anne Hathaway's asshole.

    by Isaac R.

    Just throwing that out there.

  • Wait, John Carter, a none sequel march film is budgeted at over 300 million? That’s going to have a tough time making it budget back. It’s not like this march is empty either. Hunger games and wrath of the titans come out in the two week after it.

  • Also Is Franco going to bring in a billion dollar fran? Fuck no. Who does? Johnny D.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:54 a.m. CST

    I could go for some Anne Hathaway asshole action

    by JuanSanchez

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Pricklepants

    You don't think major audiences will go for The Hobbit? You do know that it's the predecessor to The Lord of the Rings, right? And that it's made by the same people who made The Lord of the Rings? You know, the trilogy that made $2.9 billion worldwide and won 17 Oscars. Dude, if there's such a thing as a sure thing, The Hobbit is it. Besides, if Alice in Wonderland, Pirates of the Caribbean 4 and Transformers 3 can all gross $1 billion worldwide, it should be a piece of cake for The Hobbit. And when I say The Hobbit, I mean both movies. They're bound to be way better than those three movies.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST

    HOW THE HELL does a Lone Ranger movie cost $250 Million?!?!

    by bubcus

    I'd can it too. A Western Movie with that kind of budget?!? Good riddance. The money is better served elsewhere.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    TOMBSTONE had a budget of $25 million

    by bubcus

    (according to Wikipedia) and that was a fantastic film. I really can't see a Western needing more than $50 million tops! (...unless, of course, they decide to add aliens to it).

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Great news

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Verbinski is a leading light of the Hack Pack, maker of bland and instantly forgettable garbage. More films like this need to be shitcanned before they get off the ground.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    True Grit had a $38 million budget and made $250 million worldwide

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    That's pretty darn good if you ask me.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    aint nobody wanna see this. and for 250 mil?

    by scenic

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:40 a.m. CST

    There's some sense of these here boards today

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Yup, Zorro is a classic example of how they should have gone with this. I guess for $250M they must have been building steampunk contraptions, mines, and whole towns. Then blowing the shit up out of them. As someone said, this film could have been made for $20M. You can actually get loads of fucking bang out of $20M. cut back on the big stars, big sets, and big CG and you can keep your costs well down.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST


    by theblackvegtable

    After Pirates 4, I couldn't give a rats ass what Depp or Bruckheimer do...

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Lone Ranger - John Carter - Tin Tin = FAIL FAIL FAIL

    by IwatchMovies

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:47 a.m. CST

    MC Hammer would have been a terrible lone ranger

    by i_got_worms

    Everybody getting their pants in a twist over a white man playing tonto. What about a black rapper playing the lone ranger! Crazy casting.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Who cares? Depp kinda sucks

    by Nabster

    The Tourist? That was one of the worst films of the last decade.

  • Carter looks soo fucking generic while Tin Tin is more deadeyed CGI mo-capped trash ala Zemekis.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Looks like disney came to its senses.

    by Father

    I mean really, a lone ranger movie? For $250 million? Featuring jonny depp as tonto? Get the fuck outta here with that shit....

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7 a.m. CST

    $250 million????

    by Rebel Scumb

    How much did True Grit cost to make? That was a pretty solid Western, unless Verbinski was going for a steampunk Wild wild west or Cowboys & Aliens mashup of somekind I can't see why this would ever need to cost that much. I hated the pirates movies (well the 2 I saw) so I probably wouldn't have liked this anyways.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    I agree about John Carter, the only way it will be a hit is if it somehow catches the attention of the Twilight crowd and they embrace it in a big way, but otherwise, unlikely to succeed. Especially after they dropped the 'of Mars' from the title Tin Tin I think could go either way, it will either tank or be an enormous hit.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST

    the budget isn't surprising?


    the budget ISNT SURPRISING? The budget sure as hell is surprising, its a key element to the reason this project got shit canned. A Lone Ranger movie with Depp could be cool, if it were a small scale project. They don't need to fuckin copy the Pirates and Sherlock Holmes formula. It just sounds like a bad fucking idea.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    bomb defused, good move by Disney.

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

    It would've ended up like WILD WILD WEST anyway. I think Disney's got enough to worry about with JOHN CARTER. That trailer was terrible. The average movie goer will think it's about some guy walking around the desert wearing that homo outfit & fighting generic Conan villains.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Good news!

    by flax

    I don't give a damn about THE LONE RANGER – I don't think I'd even heard of it until the film was announced. The premise doesn't interest me at all. Hopefully this cancellation will mean that Johnny Depp – who is a great actor – will do something interesting instead. Or maybe another Pirates sequel, because fuck it, I've enjoyed all of them so far.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:20 a.m. CST

    holy shit


    John Carter cost 300 mil????? ????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? LOL

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Yes this is Cowboys and Aliens fallout, but

    by Arteska

    that budget number, if accurate, is preposterous and also revealing about the stupidity that reigns in Hollywood. Seriously, spend just a few weeks around the business and it's no secret how ridiculous these people are with money. You would be astounded at the level of excess at every conceivable stage. That aside I'm also sick of the beating the newest Pirates movie has been getting among the pinky aloft while sipping tea film crowd. At this point the people bitching about it are reviewing their fatigue with having to see these movies but I really don't see Depp making more Sparrow movies as any different than Weismuller making a dozen Tarzan movies. It's also genre-indulgent stuff done AAA-style, an approach normally begged after.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Bigger budget than Avatar's.

    by aphextwin

    Just saying...I've heard the plan was to do all the horses CG and make a crossover with the Green Lantern.

  • seriously.. wtf would they be doing that costs that kind of money.. load all the crew porta-potties with $100 bills instead of toilet paper? It's complete stupidity to think EVERY FUCKING FILM needs that kind of budget. Bruckheiny needs to be repeatedly kicked in the balls, and so does Depp. Thank you Disney for coming to your senses and KILLING this fucking turd before the meal is even finished cooking, let alone et.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Depp doesn't look Native American enough for the part anyway

    by BoyNamedSue

    The Tonto from the 50s, Jay Silverhills, looked the part beautifully, even if his English wasn't all that great! Can't you hire an actual Native American like Graham Greene for a much reduced cost?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    JOHN CARTER looks like a turkey by the way. Green Latern 2012

    by The Founder

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Maybe it was expensive in a different way

    by Nem_Wan

    What special effects? How about actually building huge sets, entire western towns and having huge crowd scenes of costumed extras, not CG? Maybe recreating military battles with real people? The $44 million budget of Cleopatra (1963) is $325 million adjusted for inflation.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Armie Hammer for Superman in JLA!

    by UltimaRex

    Now that that's over.

  • If it were George Clooney, maybe they'd have had more confidence. But pulling the plug instead of just working with the producers to slash the budget seems like the wrong move. It shows lack of loyalty to a team that has given Disney so much money for the last decade, and a lack of respect.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    the lone ranger is boring

    by emeraldboy

    old and outdated.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Why do movies cost so fucking much now?

    by Mugato5150

    Well, on the one hand, it's probably not a good idea to piss off the actor who turned a theme park ride into a tent pole franchise nor is it wise to piss off the producer who somehow made Nicholas Cage a Disney action star but on the other hand, how much money, Depp's paycheck aside, could a western possibly cost? A couple horses, the rent on that same area of land outside Paramount studios that every other western is shot, some makeup to make Depp look like an Indian...they've been shooting that same movie for decades for like twenty bucks.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Profit participation is bullshit

    by the_rising

    Seriously, WTF are studios still allow stars to pull in all the up front money, making it impossible for the film to make a damned profit? It's insane.

  • Can't blame Disney. Why does a freaking western need to cost $250 million? JOHN CARTER looks like a total bomb....that plus the failure of COWBOYS AND ALIENS...and also the fact that LONE RANGER is unlikely to generate the massive international dollars that PIRATES rakes in, surely lead Disney to this decision.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! (Throws arms towards the heavens)

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I really want to see this. I hope somebody at Disney has a change of heart. "The Lone Ranger" doesn't need to cost $250 million no matter who is staring in it. It's not set on Mars or Pandora. There are no giant robots destroying major cities in it. (At least I don't think so; keep Jon Peters away from this thing!) We've been making Westerns in Hollywood since Hollywood was created, and we can build authenic Western sets for far less than $250 million. I have no idea what happens in the script that makes Disney want to budget this film at $250 million, but the mind boggles.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Cowboys and Aliens killed it

    by krabklaw

    Disney decided it's too much risk for a tentpole western

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Nothing lost.

    by blackwood

    Anyone lamenting this is wrong. Your feelings are wrong. Your opinions are wrong. Your want for another franchise is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    I seriously can't think of a funnier name than "Dick Cook"

    by AlexDK

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    It's the economy, stupid.

    by SnootyBoots

    The Lone Ranger may be a known property, but it's not exactly Harry Potter or Twilight. There aren't millions upon millions of fans round the world who will automatically stream into theaters to see a Lone Ranger movie, no matter who stars or directs. Why a Lone Ranger movie would need to cost $250 million, even with the talent involve, is beyond me, but spending that kind of money on something that's not an absolute sure thing is a bridge too far in todays environment.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Oh gee-whiz, no caucasian Tonto afterall?

    by thot

    Maybe the suits saw some pre-production shots and realized how absurd it looked. Leave this one alone 'til they can properly cast it.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:36 a.m. CST

    =Cowboys and Aliens killed it=

    by KilliK

    why,was the movie a flop? i havent check the BO numbers this month to see how the new movie performed.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Depp does have indian blood

    by KilliK

    but yeah he doesnt look as an indian at all.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    the other reason why the lone ranger didnt

    by emeraldboy

    work. is cowboys and indians. no kids play cowboy and indians these days. just like no kids play davy crockett.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Now, would you kindly give us a good BIOSHOCK movie now, Gore?

    by Raymar

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    =HOW THE HELL does a Lone Ranger movie cost $250 Million?!?!=

    by KilliK

    well for start,cocaine is a very expensive drug.HA.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    I'm rather shocked

    by D.Vader

    Disney passing on another Verbinski/Depp/Bruckheimer franchise? I wonder if this has more to do with The Sorcerer's Apprentice and Prince of Persia, both Bruckheimer produced films for Disney, not really doing so well.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Cowboys and Aliens COST and BOX OFFICE:

    by bubcus

    According to Box Office Mojo: Cowboys & Aliens cost $163 Million Domestic Total as of Aug 11: $73,862,710 I loved Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford in the film, but the film is very forgettable and nothing in it screams buying the blu-ray/dvd. It's watch once, shrug, and move on which is extremely unfortunate. * * * I do not like the casting of Johnny Depp as Tonto. I like Johnny Depp, but in my mind, the character of Tonto must be played by a Native American / First Nations and must be of that descent. The Lone Ranger is very much my dad's childhood hero and I don't mind seeing a Lone Ranger movie, but for me it would be going in to appreciate something my dad watched on a black and white TV when he was a child. * * * I am honestly happy to hear of this cancellation and I hope that one day they relaunch it with an appropriate budget and script that could pay true homage to the original serials and be wildly entertaining for a family audience.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Yep. Cowboys and aliens was the final straw.

    by OutsideChance

    Combine with the failure of the Green Lantern and Green Hornet, the underperformance of X-men, and some of Bruckheimers more recent bombs and Disney got gun shy about sinking $250 million into a "cowboy superhero" movie. Yeah, it has Depp, but Tonto is no Jack Sparrow or Mad Hatter, and Depp either had to play Tonto straight or Disney would be seen as racist.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    250 mil needed to film a guy on a horse? Uh yeah. Go fuck yourself.

    by UltraTron

    This is the best news ever. Actual sense being displayed.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    My kids play Lone Ranger and Tonto, and also Davy Crockett

    by deelzbub

    They may be the only three and four year olds on the planet who know who those characters are, but that is two more greater than none.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Saw Cowboys and Aliens last night

    by deelzbub

    lags a bit in the middle and towards the end, but not a bad film. Olivia Wilde is the surprising weak link. I was expecting much more from her. She may be just a pretty face. Disappointing.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Dick Richard and Dick Dangle

    by deelzbub

    Known them both. Funnier names than Dick Cook

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST


    by TheWacoKid

    This movie seemed dumb to begin with. I'm sure people would of gone, but it would not make Pirates money. This is a good call by Disney. I know the main players are part of the Pirates franchise, but this would not bring all those over to see this. People saw Pirates not only because it was about Pirates, but it was also about a classic Disney ride come to life. That's what made it exciting for a lot of people. A cowboy and an Indian for $250 million? Dumb...

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    *William Tell Overture playing...*

    by Triple_J_72

    ... and then the sound of a vinyl record player scratching... BBBBBPPPPPPTTTTTT!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Cap America's poor overseas gate

    by tdtmf

    might have a lot to do with this. the story's reference to American Icon's overseas sales could have scared them off. add to that C&A's poor performance and you have a double reason to pull the plug

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST

    CGI doesn't lower costs if you end up...

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    paying multiple cgi houses overtime to make a release date.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    I don't think it was just a money issue

    by seasider

    I think Disney just got cold feet over possible racial backlash that would've resulted with Depp playing Tonto. Combine that with the recent box office disappointment of Cowboys and Aliens, the result is a bunch of very apprehensive studio execs. Of course Disney will probably sign that $250 million check without blinking if it was for another Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Depp in it.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, noon CST

    There is only one Johnny Depp western-----Dead Man

    by thelordofhell

    Glad this got shitcanned. If you want to see Depp really acting, watch Dead Man

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    ΗΕΥ DISNEY: why dont you make a Monkey Island movie?

    by KilliK

    and advertise it as a spin-off from the Pirates movie? you can do it with a lot less money,have Depp as a cameo to promote the film,the movie will be in the same Pirates universe but with new characters and new more fantastical settings,it will be more comedic,it will have an even cooler villain,a zombified LeChuck with his burning beard (is there any movie with a vfx of a burning beard?) and you can have Threepwood,the hero of the movie, as a naive teenager who dreams to be a pirate and idolizes Jack Sparrow (hence the Depp cameo). OR replace Threepwood with a younger Jack Sparrow who wants to become a pirate and starts his adventurous journey in the 7 seas and eventually he faces LeChuck.something like a prequel which depicts the origins of Jack. See this movie as the start of a paraller franchise to the Pirates one,ofc it will be in a smaller scale but it will be definitelly a profitable one.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    oh wait Cap America didnt do very well overseas?

    by KilliK

    no surprises here.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Now can Depp please leave Carl Kolchak alone?

    by Carl's hat

    Tonto, The Thin Man, Carl Kolchak...none of these roles are right for Depp. Please piss off.

  • And hasn't even opened in a lot of markets yet.

  • and I"m sure it's a whooper will bring him a gargantuan number for doing nothing.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Question: Has anyone here reviewed Rise of the Apes?

    by StoryFirst

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    monkey island...

    by emeraldboy

    is the only post star wars franchise lucas should do.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Depp isn't the biggest star in the world right now

    by TinkerTIW

    Depp as Capt'n Jack Sparrow is the biggest star in the world right now. Kinda like Harrison Ford playing Henry Jones, Jr.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Right on Stereotypical Evil Archer!

    by Cadillac Jones

    However - I think this Lone Ranger was going the steampunk route. Which is a shame.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST


    by bluetunehead

    Pointing out that Westerns don't do well isn't the same as condemning the genre outright. True Grit is the exception to the rule, and that was successful because it was a family-friendly holiday film that got excellent reviews and was considered an Oscar contender. It's an entirely different animal than a 250 million dollar Lone Ranger reboot. Any good will gained from the success of True Grit has been effectively killed by the failure of C&A. And honestly, how many quality original (non-remake) Westerns have their been in the last 10 years? The Proposition? Appaloosa? Open Range? Assassination of Jesse James? How much money did those make again?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Maybe Johnny wants to free his schedule

    by hallmitchell

    To tour with Alice Cooper! Can someone in Hollywood please get these budgets under control? Seriously $200 million for The Green Lantern. Ridiculous.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp is a fucking sell-out...

    by ryderdvs

    Fucking Disney whore. Remember when he actually gave a shit about his career choices, and made interesting choices, such as ED WOOD? That guy is so overrated.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Funnier names than Dick Cook

    by dukeroberts

    Dick Trickle, NASCAR driver Dick Sweat, U.S. House of Representatives

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by Cadillac Jones

    ...a doofy hero who is saved by his wise and competent side-kick? Huh. Sounds like another cinematic adaptation of another George W. Trendle creation...

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    I'm glad this movie was canceled

    by dukeroberts

    I hated the direction in which this movie was going. They could start over after scrapping Depp and Verbinski. No steampunk! No huge name actors as the leads. DO NOT show the Lone Ranger's face AT ALL. The only glimpses of his face we should get are possibly in the crowded Texas Rangers posse as they ride out to get the Cavendish gang and his face with the mask, and his face with other makeup when he goes into town in another disguise. We should never have a clear look at his face. Also, there should be no love interest for the Ranger. He cleans up a town and moves on. He is supposed to be dead, so no one should know that the Lone Ranger is John Reid, except for Tonto.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute...$100 million just to MARKET The Alamo?!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    What the fuck? Can ANYONE remember seeing a theatrical trailer or even a TV spot leading up to the release of that bomb? Holy shit, what the fuck did they spend THAT money on?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    dukeroberts, DICK BUTKUS!!!

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Fuck off, horace cox

    by accidentalvisitor

    The site wasn't pimping Attack the Block, it was instead reporting on news regarding the film whenever news came to light (screenings, openings, site interviews, reviews). That is what this site is for after all. The losers like yourself who whined about it like pussies because you had your own agendas needed to get a life or at the very least ignore the postings. The fact that you can't let it go says all we need to know about your pathetic mentality. Get over it. That movie got better reviews than 95% of the stuff that came down the pipe this summer. Deal with that. And then move on. As for making "chavs" as heroes, why not? Mobsters are still responsible for murders, prostitution rings, bribery and all other crimes to this day and yet there have been plenty of vehicles from Hollywood that have made heroes out of those scumbags. I'm sure you have a few DVDs of such movies/TV shows at your home without thinking twice about it.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Hollywood is a joke

    by accidentalvisitor

    Stop making films for over $300 million and you won't have to worry so much about the international market. The spending is out of control. That's the problem.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    meanwhile in AFRICA...

    by KilliK

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    This is all about Verbinski

    by DougMcKenzie

    He's known to be unable to meet budgets and loves expensive shit that really doesn't end up on the screen. If you read up about the making of "At World's End" you can see him dropping tens of millions on unnecessary shit left and right. You get the feeling that Bruckheimer and Depp were asked to use a different director and they said "No, shut it down". Disney will make this again but with a different creative team...

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Captain America bombed overseas with a 115 mil so far? Huh??

    by The Founder

    Its at 150 mil domestically and 115 overseas, thats 265 mil. They made their budget back easily.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Get a Native American to be Tonto!

    by whatevillurks

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Oh, and get to work on the Rifleman and Have Gun Will Travel.

    by whatevillurks

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Good question Storyfirst- Rise of the Apes kicked ass.

    by Carl's hat

    Just come from home from seeing it with 2 friends. We had the whole cinema to ourselves whilst the theatre next door with the fuckin' Smurfs was half full! If you haven't seen Rise.. do yourself a favor and go buy a ticket. 5 times better than Cowboys and Aliens, 3 times better than Capt. America.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Graham Green

    by brian schneider

    The Tonto from the 50s, Jay Silverhills, looked the part beautifully, even if his English wasn't all that great! Can't you hire an actual Native American like Graham Greene for a much reduced cost?

  • Graham Green is natice Canadian not American. Good actor but probably too old for the part.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    funny "dick" names

    by lv_426

    Long Duck Dong from Sixteen Candles. In middle school I remember there being this Chinese exchange student named Dong Suk. As you can imagine, he had a hard time over here with that name.

  • Because I speak for the world.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Rise of the Planet of the Apes is the best movie so far of 2011

    by Carl's hat

    That is fact my friends.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Budget breakdown as follows:

    by ragingfluff

    Depp: $25 million plus % Verbinski: $15 million plus % Hammer: $5 million Various Exec Producers: $20 million CGI / FX: $30 million Horses: $500,000 Rats for Ms Bonham Carter's hair: $500,000 Troupe of Coke-Wielding Midgets to entertain Bruckheimer: $154 million

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST


    by Seven_of_Borgnine

    Wait, was this going to be one of those "sidekick role reversal" movies?

  • But I also agree with those saying that $250 million seems ridiculous. WTF is with the spending and budgets in Hollywood these days? They better watch out, or the Tea Party will start nosing around the studios in an attempt to balance Hollywood's budget.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4 p.m. CST

    Depp as Kolchak The Night Stalker

    by lv_426

    I just don't see it. I'd rather see Bryan Cranston of Breaking Bad and Malcolm in the Middle fame portray Kolchak. That would be groovy.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    C&A overseas numbers aren't in yet

    by Geomancer21

    can't call it a flop just yet. its only been two weeks.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Cranston as Kolchak= perfection

    by Carl's hat

    And I called it ages ago my friends.

  • as a human. He can frown and smile but there is no 'Depth' to him as an actor. It's almost like he was an CGI Character. He's just there. Not high, not low, not bright, not intense. Just a dude going through the motions.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST

    budget cost

    by brian tobin

    most of it was taken up by having to buy that old joke......Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by hundreds of indians on the warpath. " looks like we're in trouble this time old friend " .... "what do you mean WE, white man ?" that one. 200 mil right there !!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    despite the fact that this new brightened my day...

    by giricns

    Variety is reporting that this movie isn't quite as dead as some websites are reporting:

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Not surprising. Smart move by Disney

    by Smartacus

    Whoever made this call was experiencing a lucid moment. Lone Ranger was going to lose so much damn money that it would make Green Lantern look like a lucrative candidate for a sequel.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Roots of the original story

    by Mgmax

    The original story was a half-hour radio drama. "Roots of the original story" means "we invented a typical superhero origin story" for him. And what exactly does that mean? Look at the trailer for the 1981 bomb Legend of the Lone Ranger and see how well that worked out last time.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    This was a Bullshit idea anyway

    by D o o d

    250 mil' for a cowboy and an indian...? Seriously? where was the money going to be spent...? Oh I know where, on the cocaine these highly paid assholes!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Agreed about "Rise of Planet of the Apes"

    by Zardoz

    The best film of the Summer and the movie that is closely attuned to the current, socio-political and cultural zeitgeist. (Just imagine poor people, the unemployed and dis-enfranchised as the apes. You know, like the Republicans already do! ;) Go see it!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST

    THANK GOD!!!!

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I'm so fucking sick and tired of Johnny Fucking Depp. Wasn't he going to play Tonto, or something stupid like that? Motherfucker, we don't need goddamn Jack Sparrow fucking up Tonto. Get somebody awesome to do it, somebody with gravitas. Wes Studi, Rodney A. Grant, somebody actually Native. If Depp had any scruples left he'd have recoginzed that, but these days he's nothing more than your regular fucking Hollywood Money Whore. Any cred he had has been butt-raped by his last five or six years of flim. I am fucking thankful they've shit on this one. I'm tired of all stars having to be "bankable." That idea gave us Keanu Fucking Reeves in The Day the Earth Stood Still, and Kevin Fucking Costner in Robin Hood, and Keanu Fucking Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula. Or Seth Fucking Rogan in The Green Hornet. How stupid was that idea? If any of you like it, you're shit-eating fucktards and you deserve ass cancer. Go away Johnny. You've got enough money to live for centuries. Go away. Go away. Go away. Stop lessening your body of work with the pablum you puke out these days. Take some time off. Go butt fuck Keanu Reeves for a while. Teach him how to do a fucking accent. THANK GOD they've cancelled this corn-ridden, maggot infested turd of a project. Now revive it with different actors. Make it cool. It IS possible. Just not with Johnny Depp.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Is Depp really a huge star?

    by Keith

    Or is *Jack Sparrow* the huge star?

  • Everybody in Latin America knows who the lone ranger is. We call him el llanero solitario. (Nobody knows who tin tin is though - so I doubt that movie will do well here.) No surprise if C&A does poorly here- not because it has cowboys - cowboys are liked the world over- it's because it's fucking lame. Some of you also think we hate captain america. We don't . But that movie kinda sucked too, so if doesn't do well at the international box-office it's because it's considered a poor movie. Actually both C&A and CA are so unimaginative they could have been made 15 years ago . So don't start with the “oh it's because they hate u(.) s(.) ” bullshit. It's the cheap excuse your government shoves down your throat so you think you're in some sort danger (hahaha) so they can justify bombing and pillaging other countries . If the world worked that way only neonazis would have gone to see Das Boot . Start worrying about your own money and not Disney's -your country is royaly fucked if you haven't noticed

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Depp can only play outlandish characters

    by Keith

    He can't do realistic ones.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp.....

    by radioflyer's just a shame that, much like Robert Downey Jr, he has now shifted focus 100% onto franchise-friendly, overtly commercial studio films. Maybe now Johnny will make a weirdo flick like "Dead Man" or "Fear and Loathing" again since he has room in his schedule. He can certainly afford to take a pay cut for one movie. I agree with Disney's decision to cut "The Lone Ranger". I don't think an international audience, or even an American audience, will pony up the dough to see a Western of this type. It had the pre-stink of "Wild Wild West". The Western is not dead, as evidenced by recent flicks like "True Grit" and "3:10 To Yuma", but I don't think that you can make a big franchise out of a Western. Let them just be, oh I don't know.....GOOD MOVIES WITH STORY AND CHARACTER instead of CGI crapfests.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by Keith

    "Its at 150 mil domestically and 115 overseas, thats 265 mil. They made their budget back easily." Dear lord. With a budget of $150m, CA would need to make around $375m to break even. The studio gets roughly 40% of ticket sales. Of course, these days Blu-Ray and TV sales mean there are significant extra revenue channels to come after the main theatrical run.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Cap 2....

    by whatevillurks

    ...should be fun if they insert him into political hot topics like the comics. You couldnt get into that in the orgin. I imagine a new third party run by a charasmatic senator(actually Zemo)that only Cap can see through. He needs to be at odds with the government, those are when the stories shine the best.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    No more mega-budget westerns

    by DiscreetFighterAlpha

    Jonah Hex was a complete dud. Cowboys and Aliens was a sinkhole. Even the great Rango struggled some at the box office. True Grit had the right idea, keep the budget VERY modest and the material played straight. Fantasy western films are just gonna have a hard time.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST


    by Queefer Sutherland

    FUCKING on the target you are, bloke! It needs to be a real western, not an imitation of one, and all Depp can give us is an imitation of something.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    My point of view......$250 million wtf?

    by Shaun1138

    I work in the movie business and I am so glad Disney put the breaks on this film. Why in the world would you spend $250 million on a Western? Remember the "Wild Wild West"?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Gotta admit it...

    by AlexDK

    "Dick Trickle" is a funnier name than "Dick Cook". You guys won.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Cowboys and Werewolves

    by Dasinfogod

    It wasn't just the underperformance for COWBOYS AND ALIENS that gave Disney cold feet, it was the mixing of genres. The baddie was to be a Native American werewolf. Yup, seriously (Lone Ranger's silver bullets, get it?!). Somebody at Disney woke up and realized it would be laughed off the screen. Why don't they just put up $20 million and make a modestly budgeted remake of THE FIEND WHO WALKED THE WEST while their at it... Heck, maybe Bob Evans would produce it...

  • Who's the man now, dawg?!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST you know where I can get The Lone Ranger script?

    by Bobo_Vision

    A Native American werewolf doesn't sound half bad....shape-shifters are part of their mythology. That's why the Lone Ranger enlists the help of Tonto. That sounds pretty awesome to me. Maybe not $250 million dollars awesome, but a Depp Tonto in an Native American werewolf film? Awesome. <p> And btw....giricns updated this story with the truth....the project hasn't been shitcanned just yet, they are just trimming the budget. And that makes much more sense given all the players involved and their track record together.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    CGI often isn't a cost-cutting measure

    by AlexDK

    It's done simply for convenience and to get shit done quickly. "Good" CGI often costs quite a bit more than filming the same stuff with practical effects on set, but the big pro here is that you don't have to film those scenes yourself. Just send the script to the render houses and wait a bit.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST

    We need the Lone Ranger

    by CherryValance

    As a people, I mean. So it's like 100% not going to happen? Can't be saved? I think that's just sad. :( Cowboys and Aliens sucked. It tanked because of the word of mouth. Because... it sucked. The Lone Ranger can't possibly suck as bad. And it shouldn't be penalized for that atrocity. Yeah, they're both westerns. But otherwise it's apples and oranges. Everyone would go see this movie. Old people would go twice even. I know it. :( Sad panda.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Yeah, So Cancelled is A Bit..... Premature.

    by ShadowVoyd Apparently Disney aren't giving it up and are working to produce it at a lower budget. Allegedly there's a meeting set for Monday to discuss ideas on how to do that.

  • The Lone Ranger is dead because of Johnny Depp's asking price + gross participation which would have been at least (50 mill plus??) not to mention Verbinski and Bruckheimer's take. This is a film that would not even require any CGI shots.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    Jay Silverheels (not his real name), the actor best known as Tonto, was Canadian as well.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    The Lone Ranger versus a werewolf?

    by dukeroberts

    That justifies my growing disappointment in the project. That is a fucking horrible idea. Make a realistic western/adventure about the Lone Ranger or GTFO. If it was along the lines of The Mask of Zorro it could be good. That movie was not perfect. A couple of missteps were made with it, but it was a very enjoyable movie that did well enough to garner a sequel (which really wasn't very good). The origin of the Lone Ranger was covered in a thirty minute episode. It can be done in the movie as well. Don't drag the origin out to the full two hour length of the movie. Establish the characters and quickly move on to another adeventure. He doesn't have to learn how to use his powers. Since we should never see his face you don't have to establish any character motivating melodrama prior to the Rangers being mowed down. Just get right into it. He can even wait until the sequel to find Butch Cavendish.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Him Chief Bitem Bagg

    by Dr Gregory House

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    SHH via Variety is reporting the movie is till moving forward

    by Fridge

    Just with significant budget cuts.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Wasn't Batman Begins done for like 80 million?

    by DoctorWho?

    I don't follow such things really, but isn't there a lesson to be learned there?<p> I can't imagine a western demanding a whole lot of capital set aside for set design, location, CGI etc. Why so bloated.<p> You cats who follow the $$ bullshit side of things perhaps addressed this above but I'm not going to scroll and find out. Just strip that shit down and film some gritty shit like real men. Oh wait, this is Hollywood...oops.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Actually Duke, the Lone Ranger's origin

    by deelzbub

    was covered in the first two thirty-minute episodes. And he didn't catch the guy that tried to kill him until the third episode. Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels were the shit. An hour and a half of quality viewing pleasure.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Who is financing this film? Bialystock and Bloom?

    by successor

    250 million dollars for a Western? Are they crazy? Even 200 million seems absurd. Where's the draw for The Lone Ranger? Why not make an original Western for a half or even a quarter of the original proposed budget?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I hate the suits.....

    by carraway

    but, frankly I see their point!

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Werewolf? Sidekick reversal? Fuck Almighty...

    by Odkin

    I would understand if the studio was skittish after Jonah Hex, Cowboys & Aliens, and Green Hornet. They were all genre bombs that the studio could reasonably claim predict bad news for a Lone Ranger movie. But some of the comments here - Lone Ranger vs werewolves? Johnny Depp saying "Kemo Sabe"? Tonto as the all-knowing magical indian sidekick while LR is a bumbling dork? How much do you want to bet that it wasn't really a werewolf, but some sterotypical peyote-vision mystical Indian animal-spirit bullshit? What is wrong with "creative" people today? Why can't they tell a straight hero story, with an actual heroic character and a loyal sidekick fighting reasonably realistic threats against normal, sympathetic townspeople?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST

    successor nailed it. 250 million for a western?

    by shogunshin

    im assuming depp would bring in 30 million, then another 20 million for bruckheimer and verbinski. but its about COWBOYS and INDIANS. not cowboys and aliens! why do you need special effects? are the horses going to fly or something? its funny when people try to take too much of the pie. i give them props for going for such a big payday. i think the lone ranger is cool, but depp is 48. he could play the lone rangers DAD at this point. depp rules, but he was too old for tonto. isn't tonto the lone rangers pal, i always figured they were around the same age.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    $250 million! Who the hell you think do you think you

    by SID 8.0

    kidnapped, Chelsea Clinton? That's just ridiculous. Come on Disney, when whomever first suggested it would cost that much to make a western they should have been fired on the spot. Ari Gold style too.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    You're right. Thanks for correcting me. It has been a while since I've seen those earliest episodes. I just might remedy that right now. I got that massive set of the first two seasons a couple of years ago.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    And why?

    by dukeroberts

    Why do they not have the "The" as part of the title? Anybody? Just curious.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Lone Ranger vs CGI Werewolves

    by chien_sale

    Ain't It Cool News are late on that front. That's why it was supposed to cost a lot. It wasn't supposed to be a traditional Lone Ranger flick and Depp wouldn't have hammed it up for it. He would have played it completly serious compared to his Pirates work. 1. Big Budget + Lone Ranger vs Werewolves + serious Depp are the reasons this was canned.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    the founder: 150 domestic is very weak in 2011

    by chien_sale

    Remember the first X-Men in 2000 made 150 domestic and it was viewed as solid numbers but as some sort of disapointement. I think Studios are realising more and more that there may be a super-hero films exaustion

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Good, cancel this and get Depp playing the Gray Mouser, stat.

    by kevred

    With Chris Hemsworth as Fafhrd, and any one of the pure-gold stories Leiber created for them. Imagine those two guys starring in an 'Ill Met in Lankhmar' film. It'd shock the world. (Note that I only want this to happen if Hollywood could do it without screwing it up, which I acknowledge is a faint hope.)

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST

    I thought Johnny was Cherokee

    by CherryValance

    Well isn't he? I always heard that.


  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:27 a.m. CST

    They should make this kind of movies as serial

    by CuervoJones

    Just like in the old times, a short episode before the main feature. Sky Captain should have been released as a serial. Yes, my english still sucks.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:37 a.m. CST

    I love that Cowboys and Aliens bombed

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Perhaps people are waking up to the shitfests that Kurtzman and Orci 'write'.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Face it: kids hate cowboys

    by Sepulchrave

    Cowboys are shite. the only cowboy films that get made now are ones about how the whole west thing was a bunch of crap. So roll on BLOOD MERIDIAN, preferably directed by Paul Anderson on mescaline.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Bring the budget down and make this happen.

    by 11ZOMBIES

    A film like this shouldn't need a mega huge budget. I really want to see this film.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 5:36 a.m. CST

    The Long Ranger... that'll be the porn version

    by lv_426

    I bet that they could bang it out for a measly $250,000.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    150 million in the wake of Potter isnt bad.

    by whatevillurks

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 6:18 a.m. CST

    250 for an western sound like an enbezzelment

    by tomimt

    What was the movie to be about? Lone Ranger and Tonto battle the martians?

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST

    OFC it is about werewolves or vampires.

    by KilliK

    What do you expect to see in a HW popcorn movie made in the 21st century? good white cowboys killing the evil red skinned native indians? not gonna happen. Instead they take a popular property and they try to modernize it,make it more PC,give it a more pop culture edge ie adding vampires or aliens,put again your super-star as the hero of the film reprising his most popular role (Sparrow) in a western setting,insert some romance,some comedy,some action and finally dress the whole package with a lot of CGI spectacle. And with a lot of advertisement and a bit of luck,you have in your hands a sure winner and the start of a new,profitable franchise/merchandise.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    It is not canceled. Just put on hold

    by XxSoulFlyxX

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't it make more sense...

    by flax

    ... to cast Johnny Depp in the role of the caucasian Lone Ranger and an actual Native American actor as Tonto? Don't get me wrong – I hate political correctness in all its forms and I don't find this casting 'offensive' in any way – I just think Depp as a Native American would look really silly and unconvincing.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    I'd be curious to know...

    by WeylandYutani

    how much Disney will pay out in "play or pay" contracts to the principle cast and crew as a result of the cancellation?

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST


    by Hipshot

    How is casting a Native American as a Native American political correctness? Wouldn't it be "anthropological correctness"? It is casting Depp as a Native American that would be "political correctness"--playing to the preferences of the largest consumer group. Or would even that be "economic correctness"?

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST

    I knew Cowboys and Aliens would suck

    by Hesiod2k7

    The whole concept of the movie was boring to begin with. And, unless you have some iconic Western actor -- or legendary western figures -- as characters in the film it never had a chance. If you could put 1960's Clint Eastwood into this movie -- you;d have had a huge hit. Imagine The Good the Bad and the Ugly -- suddenly shifting to an alien invasion. You'd have "Blondie," Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef teaming up to deal with the alien threat. That's a movie I'd watch. And, I recognize that Favreau was trying to do that by casting Harrison Ford and Daniel Craig -- but they are not Western genre acting legends. It was just not going to work.

  • sorry but it is one of the most retarded movie ideas i have ever read in aicn. Dont get me wrong,that idea would have been perfect in a different medium,in a comic or a book,but movie history until now has shown that the amalgamation of the western genre with other movie genres doesnt work that well. i really cant imagine Tuco starting shooting some green-skin alien because it wants to steal his gold in order to use it as fuel for its crashed spaceship. some things are better to left alone and separated.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    I don't blame Disney, I would have done the same thing.

    by Orbots Commander

    Seriously, $250 Million, for a non-CGI western? Lunacy. Like others have pointed out, this was also a post-Cowboys & Aliens reactionary move. I just can't get my brain wrapped around what the production was spending all that money on, even given that Depp's salary was probably in the $30 Million-$40 Million range. On a side note, I can't even comprehend what somebody like Depp *does* $30 Million paychecks, on an every-other-year basis. After the first couple Million, I'd buy a boat and sail in the Mediterranean until I croaked.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST


    by Veraxus

    And to those saying this was because of Cowboys & Aliens flopping - look, that movies failure had nothing to do with being a western... it had to do with a script that completely underutilizes the potential weirdness of the aliens, and the aliens themselves being dull, uninteresting, humanoid Super-8/Cloverfield copycats. The western parts were well done and all, but C&A totally fucked the dog with the alien stuff. And why the fuck was the whole movie set at high noon? Aliens lose a lot of mystery and fear in broad daylight - not to mention the fact that it's visually uninteresting (all the best effects are that beginning and then... nothing). So yeah. I was looking forward to the Lone Ranger. I'd love to see what Verbinsky and this cast could have done with a large budget. Frankly, someone at Disney has to be completely mad to pull the plug on this.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    there was once an actor called johnny depp

    by emeraldboy

    whose last non franchise live action film was secret window. i think it was based on a stephen king book. utter garbage. it was.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Depp's last non franchise movie was actually more recent.

    by Orbots Commander

    The Tourist, though that was a piece of crap too, even for the $1 I spent for it at Redbox.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Though it's not Depp that was crap in The Tourist.

    by Orbots Commander

    The movie itself was just lazy, from the writing to the flat TV-movie-of-the-week like direction. Depp and Jolie sleepwalked through it, sure, but the movie was a non-effort on all counts.

  • That's counting paying top dollar for name talent. The production itself at the very highest quality shouln't exceed 80 million dollars. Digital effects ought to be at a minimum for a western. Maybe some digital landscaping to keep it all period authentic, maybe a couple of face replacement shots on a stunt man... some digital set extentions? If the total budget for Braveheart is $53mil and Dances With Wolves $19mil, then what in the world could possibly make The Lone Ranger cost $250? - If the answer to that question is Depp, then don't hire him. Although I love Verbinski and Depp, I'd rather see a straight up Lone Ranger adaptation anyway, not some subversive comedy farc.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Also, considering that John Carter is expensive...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...and will also be a very tough sell to audiences, another mixed genre affair, I don't blame the studio for trying to control costs. There's no excuse for a non-major special effects western, even an epic summer tentpole western with a major star like Depp, to cost north of $150 Million.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    havent been to the movies in a while..

    by emeraldboy

    the guard was the last film I saw. its the biggest grossing film in ireland this year. 3 million dollars and counting.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    U bunch of fucking idiots


    i seem to recall all u worthless homos saying that the apes movie was going to 'flop' or suck or be a stinker or turkey along with all your usual 'pass" "fail" fuckin bullshit...all based off of teasers & posters and shit u read on message boards. Now it's your favorite of the u act like u knew all along. None of u know what's gonna be a hit or miss next year. yeah i remember all the "bomb" predictions about LOTR back in the day because of lack of "name recognition" or talk of the "fanasy-genre" having limited appeal and LOTR only being known to a tiny "sub-demographic". I just love watching u phagits go on as if u have a clue as to what the fuck ur talking about. None of u dumbfucks know shit about lone ranger, John Carter, oz , James Franco, Johnny depp, westerns- what sells- what doesn't ...stop acting like u do. Go re-read your comments about the first avatar teaser or your reaction to Heath ledger as the joker or the first pic of him or even your initial feelings of batman being rebooted in the first place. Yeah, u guys r fucking geniuses. Now y'all r blowing ur wads over pics of a fucking street in Pittsburg- with like, cars and PAs standing around. Yet u fuckin pussy-farts still sit on your computers waxing like u r some kind of Hollywood insiders ...u fat fucking dickholes. Shut the fuck up u fuckn

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST



  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Aw, poor Faulkner had his fragile sensibillities offended.

    by DoctorWho?

    By the most benevolent post. Speaks volumes actually.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    "Kids hate cowboys"

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Yeah, that's why the Toy Story movies were such notorious bombs. Were modern-day kids really playing pirates eight years ago? No, but it didn't stop Pirates Of The Caribbean becoming one of the last decade's biggest franchises.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Depp as the Lone Ranger? Fuck off

    by John

    This quirky, lank-haired weirdo is about the least suitable person you could pick to play the Lone Ranger. The motherfucker only ever put in three decent acting performances: Elm St, Private Resort and Fear and Loathing (though I haven't seen F&L for years and imagine it's as probably as horribly over the top when seen in hindsight as his stupid Jack Sparrow horseshit).

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    @ william faulkner

    by John

    Depp as Tonto? No... That wouldn't work. Are you sure?

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I don't even want to know who the Lone Ranger was gonna be

    by John

    Ryan Reynolds or George Clooney or Chris O'Donell or some other fucknuckle? Screw it - I couldn't care less.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Fuckin ignorant Europeans

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    Who don't know anything outside of their own continent. Tonto is a icon!

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    The Lone Ranger and Tonto have worldwide recognition, but not so much with the younger generations. This movie, if done right, could create new fans for them. It should be done right, not like it was going to be done.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I know it's Depp and everything ...

    by Cruizer Dave

    But who cares? I don't want to see the part of Tonto whitewashed with Depp's stupid, overacting, overrated face. There is a good Lone Ranger film somewhere in the future, but that future doesn't have Depp's involvement. Yeah, I know Pirates 4 grossed a billion bucks, but that's because people are stupid and make shit like the Smurfs movie successful. Pirate's ran out of creative steam after one movie. Enough Depp already. His act is tired.

  • Guess that's why he's Spielberg, and I'm CountryBoy.

  • Pretty awesome movie. First time I'd seen it.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I wouldnt mind seeing Depp in an F Troop movie.

    by whatevillurks

  • I don't care how much "research" he's done for the role. Tonto was always been a racist step-'n'-fetchit caricature on par with the Cleveland Indians logo. That's a long row to ho just to give this character some dignity, and that, in itself, is offensive. What was the tone of this supposed to be, anyway? PC light- with the Lone Ranger being a "stupid fucking white man" and Tonto the real brains of the operation? More likely, Depp would be bringing us a more "authentic" version of the injun impersonation he did in Finding Neverland. Ugh, indeed. Canning this was a wise decision. Now will someone please give David Milch $50 million to make an awesome character-driven, with whip-smart dialogue, Deadwood movie already? That, I would love to see.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    So according to that article....

    by whatevillurks was going to try to be politically correct yet with a white guy playing a native american? This is incredible. I want the guy to fight ROBBER BARONS, NOT WHEREWOLVES! Its like some Briscoe County Jr.-Twilight crossover.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 8:36 p.m. CST

    I'm sure it'll wind up getting made

    by milesdyson

    Depp's too much of a HIGH ROLLER now. His crappy Pirates movies have made a ton and studios want him in their movies.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp is a god, and is the greatest ACTOR EVER

    by Victor

    You know this is true. Wouldn't it be nice, if they cast US marines in films? As a thank you for the noble service they perform in keeping all of us safe. Good bless them.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST

    The Bone Ranger

    by joe90025

    This can be made tomorrow for $250.00 cash.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST

    250 Million?

    by Evil Chicken

    Was S&P doing Disney's books?

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    It got cancelled because Tonto would have been the lead

    by bishopfan85

    it's hard not to notice that the concept was being pushed to have Depp play Tonto and his character and the Native American characters in general would have finally gotten a deserving cinematic depiction. It looks like someone in Disney didn't like the idea of the Lone Ranger playing second fiddle ala Green Hornet. We can also expect not to see a Pochanates movie where she's actually the underaged victim that she was in real life.

  • BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA! Oh, sorry, pardon me, just a....pfffTTTBAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA! Oh, oh my (wipes tear). Really? Werewolves? HAAAAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAAAA! Oh man, somebody better take away the mountain of coke from Bruckheimer, Verbinski and the writers, because I thought I heard it all. No wonder Disney is halting production. They were looking at another cross-genre shitfest, a known kid's western hero smashed together with that crappy Van Helsing movie. Yeah, last I checked, the Lone Ranger had crap all not a damned thing to do with hunting werewolves or the supernatural. It should basically be Lawrence Kasdan's Silverado crossed with Batman Begins, if anything.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 5:21 a.m. CST

    People have been saying westerns are dead...

    by Kelly Grimes

    Since the original True Grit. Every generation thinks they're the first to kill the western yet every decade, maybe less, a western film is made that becomes very popular, whether box office or DVD.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST


    by I AM ROCKO way would Lone Ranger have grossed a billion dollars world wide with Depp as a supporting player and the lack of global brand recognition. I have to agree with some of the talkbackers above that in these times that both private and public sector organisations need to act economically sensible. I have no idea about the content of this planned movie however $250 million dollars seems too much. Perhaps the script is epic? Could they not rework, bring in the film for $100 million and save other things for the sequel if it was a success? What is the average cost of a Hollywood "blockbuster" these days? Is $100 million unrealistic in this day and age?

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 7:44 a.m. CST


    by Nerfee

    Dearie me...

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 7:59 a.m. CST


    by John

    I'm only basing my knowledge of this project on the garbled snippets I've picked up from this talkback... WEREWOLVES? That would have been a good idea.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Spiderman and The Lone Ranger vs. Werewolves

    by John

    ...would be the ultimate movie.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Can you imagine Spiderman looking all cool...

    by John

    ...dressed in black clothes and a black western hat with a six shooter and piloting a stagecoach that's being attacked my werewolves? And the Lone Ranger is clinging to the side shooting at them? And then Tonto gets ripped off and mauled to death by a pack of werewolves, which then come back after the stagecoach? Either Spiderman or the Lone Ranger should do the Indiana Jones thing and go under the stagecoach -- Spiderman should do it because he can use his webslinger instead of a whip. While he's dragging behind the stagecoach a werewolf rips his foot off. Tell me you don't want to see a movie where Spiderman is dressed as a cowboy and being dragged behind a stagecoach in the old west, with one foot ripped off by werewolves, while the Lone Ranger drives the fucking thing.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Perhaps Tonto could be Navajo and descended from

    by John

    a long line of Skinwalkers. Naturally at some point he'll begin to transform into a skinwalker too, threatening the Lone Ranger and the stagecoach full of orphans beset by the marauding werewolves in the desert. But Tonto employds an ancient Navajo technique to thwart the transformation into a skinwalker that involves psychically summoning a shamanic avatar from the colective unconscious to wear as a shield against the horrible shapeshifting demon about to possess his body and soul. He plucks Spiderman from the ether, thus Tonto BECOMES Spiderman. This thing is fleshing itself out nicely.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    This messes up my HSX portfolio

    by Kikstad

    I just bought stock in Lone Ranger this morning on Hollywood Stock Exchange. Damn it! Need to read AICN first, I guess. I was looking forward to this movie, but if they're serious about that budget, what the hell were they thinking??? Why would a Western with no special effects cost that much money? It's insane.

  • But they'd have to go through me to get to her.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Werewolves? Could be worse.

    by buggerbugger

    Lone Ranger could be fightin' ~blue:Smurfs~. Or ~blue:weresmurfs~.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 9:42 a.m. CST

    200 Mill CGI Horse...

    by Knobules

    Lets make it a big mess..

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Cross-genre, the next box-office poison?

    by impossibledreamers

    Everyone's trying to cash in on the next odd combo. Spielberg had JJ add the alien stuff. We've seen the western sci-fi (not a new combo though), and would Lone Ranger have been western/horror? The logic is clear, by combining genres you potential increase your fan base, but you also risk alienating them. Remember in the 60's, everyone was doing caper movies. Thats how we ended up with Kelly's Heroes and The War Wagon. They combined popular genres with a caper movie. Ta-da!!

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    very disappointed

    by taff

    As a kid, I loved the Lone Ranger along with Zorro and Superman. Looked forward to seeing this movie with my son.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Variety says they're just re-tooling to lower costs

    by elsachmo

    Variety supposedly says that it has not been cancelled, just that it is being re-tooled to lower costs, whatever that means.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    FWIW, looks like Depp has Cherokee heritage

    by kevred

    Mixed with a number of other things, but from what I've read it does seem like it's there, solidly, on both sides of his family, albeit a few generations back. So is he a full-blooded Native American? Not even close. Is he just a white guy with no kind of remote claim on the part? Not so much. Still think the film sounds like a dumb idea, but just wanted to bring that up.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    stop bashing the casting. What? you think Russel Means can do it?

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    Russel Means, the only American Indian to ever be caught on film, is five thousand years old and is so fat, he makes Val Kilmer a sexy tomboy beanpole. So yeah, Depp for Tonto. Dont like it? Then try to find us another indian cuz Russel Means is older than the layout of this website. that said.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST

    The Lone Ranger is like a reverse Tintin.

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    "Waaah, what's a Lone Ranger?" I should probably spell the name wrong too, like the Tintin-unknowabouts. "Waaah, what's a Rone Langer?" Well I guess the reverse Tintin thing stopped being true now, cause the Tintin movies are still on their way! Steven Spielberg. Peter Jackson. Fact.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    The only way I could think of spending $250M..

    by crazypants

    Is that a good portion of the movie takes place in Old San Francisco - which is built from scratch a la the enormous Cinecetta sets for Gangs of New York. And then the entire city burns/explodes. And then the Ranger and Tonto shoot a rustler. To quote Saul Rubinek in True Romance - "Eliot - I swear to God, someone is stealing from me"

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Probably a couple of facters

    by CartoonFanboy

    As others have said, the failure of Cowboys vs. Aliens most likely played a role in this cancellation. Additionally Disney may have had the sudden recollection that Wild Wild West flopped badly as well. Remember, the only star in Hollywood bigger than Depp is Will Smith, and that still wasn't enough to save that film. There just isn't a good track record for big budget westerns of late.

  • Rod has spoken.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Lone Ranger is awesome. Tonto is awesome.

    by Continentalop

    So is Green Hornet and Kato. They are all interesting characters, and both Tonto and Kato are hardly stereotypical, racist red-and-yellow Stepin Fetchits (especially when you compare them to other minority characters of that era). However, as much as I like them, times change and so do people's taste. Characters who were interesting to one generation don't interest another nearly as much, and new characters come in to take up the spots they once held. Philip Marlowe is a much more interesting character than James Bond but I doubt people want to see the adventures of a brooding, cynical PI as much as they want to see a dashing, womanizing super-spy. Same with AJ Raffles, Arsene Lupin and Nick Carter. Great characters but now long forgotten. Lone Ranger and GH had a great run during their heyday, but sometimes it is better to leave things in the past where they belong (without werewolves).

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    The reluctant austinite

    by Continentalop

    I prefer Lesbians. Lesbians make movies way better than werewolves do.

  • I have no problem with a possible supernatural element in a new Lone Ranger franchise, making Tonto more mystical, etc. Sherlock Holmes sort of worked by making him more "modern" but still set in his...oh, never mind, that's a bad analogy.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    The problem with shapeshifters in Lone Ranger franchise is the character never was about the supernatural. It's like taking James Bond and having him face aliens or having Robin Hood take on zombies. It's completely incongruent. And Sherlock Holmes, far from being perfect, actually didn't really modernize him as much as focus on aspect of Sherlock Holmes usually neglected: his skills in combat and martial arts (in this case, "baritsu").

  • I'll never forget the response my brother sent me when he was in the Theater watching True Grit. After telling me he was on his way to see the movie, I sent him a text a little while later and asked him how was it? His response "Well, I've been watching this movie for 45 minutes and I haven't seen a gun-battle yet". The most boring and overrated Western ever.

  • I recall that it was an animated series from my youth. The backdrop was a futuristic, Blade-Runner-ish western with centered on an Indian Marshall/sheriff, who commanded the power of mystical animal spirits to give him super human strength, speed and sight. The subject/premise of Bruckheimer's movie sounds nothing like the Lone Ranger, so why even call it that, with Tonto as the protagonist?

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 5:19 p.m. CST


    by Orbots Commander

    The performances were what made the Coens' True Grit a good movie. If you took away the young girl's commanding performance, Jeff Bridges' sly turn and Damon's impressive shifty lawman, the screenplay itself was pretty lightweight. I agree that Tombstone may be overall a better action-western, though True Grit is a better drama, not sure if that makes sense. My personal modern western favorite, of course, remains Kasdan's Silverado. That film was a Marlboro Man billboard come to vibrant life. That score is great too.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Problem with Werewolves?

    by Chairman_Kaga

    Yeah because the Pirates of the Caribbean ride focused on cursed undead skeletal pirates before Verbinski/Bruckheimer/Depp came along, right? Considering the people involved I would be more surprised if this movie wasn't supposed to feature a supernatural/historical mashup exactly like PotC. He needs those silver bullets for something.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    True Grit vs Tombstone

    by elsachmo

    The person who said that there were better acting performances in True Grit than in Tombstone must be smoking a lot of crack. The True Grit remake was ok, but the performances were all pretty poor. Seriously, Tombstone has some of the best performances ever in any film, western or otherwise.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Good, now cancel The Thin Man

    by JackieJokeman

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST

    I would like to see a badass Lone Ranger movie a la Tombstone

    by chien_sale

    Mainly because he's always seen as nicy-nice clean cut "clean" hero. Let him be badass for a change. And Tonto could be badass too, a real menace, throwing knives and stuff.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST


    by The Reluctant Austinite

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST


    by The Reluctant Austinite

    And yet, are not lesbian werewolves more interesting than plain lesbians? Rod has spoken.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 10 p.m. CST

    Disney: redo The Black Cauldron. But do it right this time.

    by skycrapper

    They already have the rights to a franchise in the waiting. Start with The Book of Three. "Grittier and darker" (cause those are the buzzwords these days) than the Narnia books.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    So your brother was texting in the cinema? And I should listen to his opinion on movies why?

  • Aug. 16, 2011, 1:49 a.m. CST

    EVAN ALMIGHTY cost $200million+ . . . . . . (Never Forget!)

    by golden tribw

  • Aug. 16, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    This is great news...

    by The_Lone_Wolf

    Armie Hammer is an obnoxious douchebag that doesn't deserve to be a star. I'm getting sick of Hollywood trying to force these young punks down our throats in roles that are better suited for actors who are mature and charismatic. Hemsworth is only 28 but he really carried Thor. Evans is 30 and has the charisma and regular guy charm to carry the shield of Captain America. And don't get me started on Seth Rogen as the Green Hornet. That COULD have been a cool flick if it had cast George Clooney or Johnny Depp as Britt Reid and Jet Li as Kato. Maybe they can remake the Wild, Wild West and this time, we can get Jonah Hill to star as James West. It makes about as much sense as having Armie Hammer and Seth Rogen playing iconic characters.

  • Aug. 16, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    elsachmo, you Tombstone junkies are a weird bunch.

    by AsimovLives