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UPDATE WITH VIDEO OF THE BAT-COPTER!!! More DARK KNIGHT Shoot Pics!! + What's That Mystery Vehicle??
Harry here... just got sent this video from Dan S - who caught the Bat-craft banking through the streets of Gotham! So cool! I have also just gotten it confirmed that what is in the videos below is the BAT-COPTER - and that the blades will be added in post. Can't wait to see this sequence!
Merrick again...
Talkbackers falconjones and elsewhere called our attention to THIS video, which clearly reveals that the msytery vehicle pictured below is some sort Tumbler-esque aircraft (to my eyes, at least).
Original article follows...
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Merrick here...
...with a few more photos from THE DARK KNIGHT RISES's Pittsburgh shoot.
I love, love LOVE the desolation of that Tumbler making its way down the snowy street - I so hope that atmospheric context is in the film, and that it plays well. Of course, we've already learned that we'll see a number of Tumblers should appear in the movie - so who says Batman is in this one?
Here's a few photos from AICN reader Dead-At-Birth...
Here's another snowy-road Tumbler shot, from Snook via one of her Geeky co-workers.
Finally, here's one more shot from Trevor - who sent us some photos yesterday.
Several other angles of this are making the rounds on the Net (THIS link was sent to us by Bendy, for example). It's definitely a...something...mounted on a moveable truck/rig. Is it possible The Bat has himself a flying machine this time around? Or, is this just some funky looking camera platform? More as we know/see more...
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tdkr is going to suck
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Looks like a crab or an insect. Hey, maybe it's Batmite!
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Looks like a new fly toy for Batman
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Aug. 12, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST
Naaaaaaaah It's just some funky looking camera platform. (nt)
by Triple_J_72
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What else can that car do?
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third iterations of batman films suck shit encrusted llama balls. doubt this will be any different.
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Probably some sort of VTOL or VSTOL, if i remember the junk my Air Force uncle would drone on about endlessly. The truck will be digitally erased, obviously. i think those fins in the back are pretty obviously wings.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST
Serious question. This is the final Batman, right? Is a hint of Robin going to be made at the end? Or is Robin not part of the "cool" batman world?
by DonkeyBalls
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Aug. 12, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST
BATMAN is soooo yesterday. All the cool kids dig a superhero called APAMA.
by Daniel_S_Duvall
Read two issues of the APAMA comic for free at www.herotomorrow.com
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That really looks like it could be a batplane. Or something. Would a batplane be too 'unrealistic' for Nolan?
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It looks like the top of the tumbler, removed. Could just be a set up for another tumbler 'splosion?
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..The Batwing...!
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Looks kind of like the unmanned drone thing from Deal of the Century.
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It would be cool if it's more of a glider to kind of get him to one spot or another. Like the batmobile opens up a little to get him a little extra distance in jumps. I love Christopher Nolan movies (to different degrees)...but this one does have me a little nervous. I need to just quit clicking these links (I won't). It's really not fair to judge a movie on shitty, out of context cell phone spy shots.
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..the rear dorsal flaps and the right front rocket launcher...
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HE LETS THIS ALL GET LEAKED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE. HE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO DO THIS ONE, BUT THE STUDIOS FORCED HIM TO. NOW HE'S GOING TO DELIVER THE ULTIMATE FUCK YOU.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST
A BATFORMER! An AUTOBAT! A...uh... GO-BAT! No, wait, screw that last one.
by Yotz Von Frelnik
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Yep. Too much of too little, too fast. "Here's the same vehicles we've been showing you on the streets for a month! With slightly different paint jobs? At slightly different angles! And here's one transforming!" Wooo.
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I'm sure catwoman will run into it... drunk ass anne hatheway
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WTF is THIS shit?
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it's not like he is in the desert... how is camo paint helping in any way? Or will these belong to some evil henchmen. Bat's tech hitting the black market?
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168173-new-batman-vehicle-revealed
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That was a stunt double driving.
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From what I've see it looks like Bane and his henchmen have access to some Wayne Tech.
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that looks potentially cool
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pumpers.
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Guys, sometimes less is more, yeah? Especially where Mini-Bane is concerned...
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If you look closely at the last pic, yea, it kind of looks like a transformer or something weird, but what it is if you look closely is a roof rig for the Tumbler. Look below it and you can clearly see a frame with wheels, and the top replicates the roof of the black Tumbler. This will likely be used to shoot moving action shots for Tumbler scenes, for example, if they need to shoot a person or a fight scene on top of the tumbler while it is moving so it can be a more controlled environment unstead of using one of the actual Tumblers with their moving wheels of death (if someone fell off). It could also be used as a stationary tumbler replica for action scenes, or to film Batman coming out of the top, etc, so they don't have to constantly use and abuse one of the real Tumblers again. At least that what it looks like to me.
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I'd hate for someone to read one of my books before I edit it and rewrite it.
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Yep - looks like its a Batcraft, Bat-hover-craft, etc. Hmmmm...time will tell but that sounds like a dumb idea.. And the Robin thing? Bale said he'd refuse to do the movie (or sequels) if Robin was involved. Not sure if it's contractual or not but it's what I've heard/read. I have to say it's a bit easy to be cynical here - between a small statured Bane (he simply HAS to be BIGGER than Batman - taller and bigger, period!), the presence of Hathaway as Catwoman (so easy to be silly and so difficult to get right, if even possible at all in the Nolan Batverse context - Hathaway is a pretty girl but doesn't quite seem to know how to channel her sexuality - and Catwoman well, I'm not sure you can extract that sexiness and still have the same character archetype in place)...but I have enjoyed pretty much everything Nolan's done and thus have a degree of faith that he won't deliver a steaming pile of shit for TDKR. But damn is this a very fine line being created by Nolan and crew to travel upon...on one side is a fitting end to an excellent trilogy and on the other is Spiderman 3. Nuff said.
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some car driving down the street. Desolation he calls it. Jesus f Christ?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST
Love how people are telling Nolan what Bane should be like.
by knowthyself
Yeah keep telling him because if he had listened to you his take on Joker never would have happened. And it was way better than anything most fanboys would have came up with.
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if in production military vehicles were made by Wayne Enterprises and Bats had been driving around in one first? Or if the vehicles are manufactured by someone else, wouldn't that require the kind of deep corporate espionage that would've discovered his identity also. Maybe that's what Catwoman's role is in all of this.
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He's a hired actor. He does what he's told.
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Presuming that Warners is planning a 'Batman' reboot with a new creative team, what would be the point of Robin 'fan-service' in this film? Maybe in the next iteration of the franchise, Robin will be appropriate to the tone of the film. Not in this universe.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST
think it's more hovercraft that jet. or maybe it's a boat?
by zom-bot.com
the tumbler has a huge jet on the back already...so it's possible. i mean in a comic book world...for something that small and heavy and non-aerodynamic to get off the ground. which makes me think it's gonna transform and launch to be a stealth boat. angular stealth boats already exist.
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Is anyone the least bit unsatisfied they decided to move the setting of the film to a completely different looking city after establishing Chicago as the mis en scene for the first 2?? I think that's a huge mistake right there. It's just not going to feel the same as the first two. Not knocking Pittsburgh, I just don't think it has the size/scale that Chicago does for the backdrop to Batman's environment..
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add RISES to your article please
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The one constant that has come from all the 'Batman' films, is that the characters are only as good as the actors who have played them. It will be Hardy's performance that matters, not his adherence to an un-achievable physical similarity to a drawing.
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that was my exact thought as well. looks to be a rig for interior shooting of the batmobile. or as they said, shooting stuff on the roof.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST
The camouflage Tumbler which looks like Batman's turns into a vertical takeoff aircraft...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
That's my speculation. There are four Tumbler prototypes and each has a unique special feature. (Batman's has the Batpod.) Bane gets the other three Tumbler prototypes, and I bet this is what one of them turns into. There are shots of the Selena Kyle stuntwoman driving the Batpod toward a tunnel, the same location where what looks like a camouflaged version of this probable Batwing is also being shot for the movie: http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/bat-vehicle-closeup.jpg So maybe the action sequence goes like this: at the city hall fight (where Bane, his army, Batman and the Gotham PD fight), Selena jacks Batman's Batpod. Batman commandeers one of the camouflage Tumblers, and chases after her. He flips a switch and this Tumbler ejects its tires, launches up into the air and transforms into this mini-aircraft. Later in the movie, Bruce or Lucius paints it black and preps it for the movie's climatic battle between Batman and the League of Shadows.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST
in batman BB and TDK, Gordon had a son and an infant barbara
by zom-bot.com
so...it would be like 17 years until Babs decides to be batgirl. in nolanverse, would Bruce be dead by then, or...
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST
It looks like a jumping mech with a gun and cockpit in the front (facing right). I bet its on vehicle because legs will be CGI'D
by kbarber29
The flaps on the back (to the left) look like places where boosters can help it jump off the ground. Bet it's Bane's.
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u never see her face, but she's not a little kid. no face = replace with any actress in TDKR and make her turn into Robin
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST
yeah- according to this larger photo- it's definately a plane.
by zom-bot.com
http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/bat-vehicle-closeup.jpg and the reason it looks 'crab like' is because the wings haven't unforded yet. i'm sure they do in the movie and this thing rolling and unfolding is a transitional vehicle. so good for them for not making a ridiculous CG transformation with things fitting and unfolding from the 4th dimension like Iron Man, etc...
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I read an indepth article on how they designed the batmobile. They can actually roll them off the production line at 250K a pop. If you look at the pics on the other site, its clearly a regular truck holding up the frame of the batwing. My guess is this is a chase scene where Nolan wants a real batwing to be visible from a rear view window,etc.
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It looks like Batman is standing on the roof of the building, looking down at the tumbler. I think Bane is in it.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST
The League of Shadows already know that Bruce Wayne is Batman; this is obvious in Batman Begins.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
They burned down Wayne Manor because they know who he is. They stole the Wayne Enterprises super Microwave Water Evaporator! The League of Shadows should have Tumblers by the dozens!
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she was a baby in BB though- so how many years passed between BB and TDK???! if she was like 8 or so in TDK? she's still younger than the son, who somehow only aged a year or so. it is odd they never showed her face though. (unless so they could use her later.) and i wonder what the two-face experience is going to inspire in gordon's son?
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Its nothing to do with a Tumbler. They have 8 different tumblers for every possible scenario. They have a race tumbler capable of 100+ mph, they have one that can take 90 degree turns at high speeds, they have one for internal shots, they have an actual internal set thats not even on wheels, and yes they have a tumbler that has a real rocket that can actually jump 30 feet in the air. They have no need to make more tumblers just for a shot. That is covered.
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Is there going to be any surprises left at all?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST
eventually we are going to be leaked a photo of bruce in traction
by zom-bot.com
or dead. or something so spoilery there will be no point in watching it. but i'm still gonna click the link, damn it.
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A goddamned Loc-Nar is what it is!
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how fucking cool is that?
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You see a brush stroke and condemn the painting. Get a clue you mouth breathing fucktard. WAIT until you fucking SEE the film before forming an opinion. A broad concept, I know, especially for you fucksticks, but give it a try. That's an invitation to ALL who have been saying shit like 'That's not the Catwoman I've been jerking off to for the last 20 years so this movie is going to suck'.
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This movie is going to kick all sorts of ass!
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST
Maybe the Tumbler can transform and fly...
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
It has a freaking rocket engine. It has reactive wing surfaces for it's bridging jumps. Vector and channel the thrust and that thing will fly enough to suspend disbelief for a few minutes.
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Interesting. Maybe it's less a mech and more of a rasied battle platform. Then again, this Batman doesn't use guns as weapons.
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grounded anti-missile,anti-craft-anti-personel tower.something taken from the TDKR comic where Batman used that huge tank to break the riot of the mutants. but here instead of mutants and a mutant leader,we got Bane and his gang and any kind of lowlife,poor or οutcast people who want to follow him in his "revolution" against GC.
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out of the raised door/wall panels.... this is a vehicle specifically made to be in a transitional scene of moving and transforming, and close up sequences.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
A breakdown of the four known Wayne Industries Tumbler prototypes
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Prototype #1 -- This is the one that Bruce Wayne took, painted black, and used as his Batmobile. Its secondary feature is that it ejects a "Bikepod" (AKA Batpod). Prototype #2 -- This concept vehicle has a fold-out anti-missile/aircraft gun array. This feature has been seen in spy photos of the set: http://razzi.me/albums/1726-batman-filming-at-carnegie-mellon/entries/60105-batpod-anne-hathaway-and-rocket-launcher-tumbler Prototype #3 -- This is the one pictured in this post, driving through the snow-covered street. Based on its look and design, it could have a tank cannon that folds out over the passenger side. (Another good guess is that it could reveal an EMP disruptor, electrical cannon.) However, no spy photos revealing what this Tumbler's secondary feature is have appeared online yet. Prototype #4 -- We know that the outside of this one looks identical to Prototype #1: http://razzi.me/albums/1726-batman-filming-at-carnegie-mellon/entries/59647-tumbler-driving-up-steps However, this Tumbler could transform into an aircraft. If this is so, it may be logical to presume Bruce will take this Tumbler back from Bane and paint it black. (There have been two spy photos showing a camouflaged version and a black version, in this post, of what looks like the same winged aircraft.)
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it's snowy christmas and since Wayne is a philanthropist,this is his way to feed the poor and hungry people of GC.so everyone can come to his bat-cantina and have a hot meal in Christmas eve.
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It's a bigger, badder version of the Tumbler. Bane and crew get ahold of Tumblers, and Bats has to get something bigger to deal with them. It will probably be presented as a 12 foot tall monster truck/Tumbler bastard child. All the other spy pics show it being "driven" on roadways. If they wanted a batplane, it certainly wouldn't be following the streets of Philly for a route. I guess they didn't want to build an actual working vehicle, so they simply built the passenger area, mounted it on a camera car, and will fill in the rest inpost.
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he uses it to terrorize Bane and make him his bitch.
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only then we will find out what the tumbler transforms into.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/8828790@N03/6033447729/in/set-72157627412446854/
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I love that Nolan and his team actually BUILD these frickin' things instead of spitting out some purely CGI creation. It's really what sets him apart, IMO. He isn't lazy. He doesn't skimp on any level of the creative process, from writing to sfx. In this cynical age of film making, when jack-off producers recycle the same shit over and OVER AND OVER again (see: "The Hangover 2," where they only changed a couple of words from the original script, for fuck sake!), I love the effort that Nolan puts into his craft. He has certainly left the world of indie cinema behind, but he hasn't lost the indie work ethic.
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Cameo by Robocop may also be in the works...
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but drop a blue tint on the film in editing and it'll pass, i guess. and as usual- same as with the joker chase/showdown- where are all the fucking cars? gotham city is just dead- all the time, day or night??? don't they have a budget for parked or abandoned cars? wouldn't the presence of three tumblers driving through town alert the police/swat pretty quickly by this point? batman is still an outlaw, right?? the tumbler has run over cop cars already, probably killed a guy in a trash truck, and blown up parked cars in an alley (thank god the kids sitting in the parked car weren't among them- or anyone getting in or out of their car when Bruce was blowing them up. i always thought that scene was shit. i guess gotham is sparcely populated with empty cars until batman needs to blast through them or shock civilians sitting in nearby ones for 'comic' effect.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
What in the living fuck is this SPAM shit '' All the cool kids dig a superhero called APAMA '' ??????
by Astronut
I bet like, 5 people have gone to the URL...
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST
Anyone who doesn't dig the idea of Nolan's Batman pulling out a new toy like that Bat Jet or whatever it is....
by Astronut
.... is a joyless cretin. Find some happiness in life and stop pissing all over everything. Stop bringing the world down with your downer suicidal attitude. (It's a cool looking thing, whatever that is)
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I am fucking tired of seeing photos of tumblers. Here's a tip to any wanna-be AICN spies out there around the Batman shoot: If you see a tumbler just sitting there with no one around and nothing going on, don't take a pic and send it in. It's just a juked up car.
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to refer to Detective Comics # 341... if you want to know what that thing is!! Hint Hint!!
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Joker's Comedy Capers?
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I just pulled that out of my ass because I'm bored, but good job on knowing that so quick!!
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for a sec there i thought there was something inside it and i've been searching ever since. ironically the back cover has an ad with flying war planes :P
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who the hell came up with that idiotic term? How are these films a unique universe?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST
although that Catwoman's ass probably belongs to the stuntwoman
by KilliK
it still causes the desired effect: hot damn.
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You whine about Batman being mistreated by Hollywood in the 90s, then when someone comes along and gives you some extremely well made movies that have dense narratives where shit actually happens, portray some iconic Batman characters and arcs, deal with the more substantial aspects of the Batman mythos, and it still isn't good enough. And many around here go on and on about the most superficial things like costumes and trivial minutia. And fucking SET PICS. You can't have a true Batman story AND two dimensional characters and non-existant plot too.
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Nolan's Batman films have their own continuity and interpretation of the characters, distinct from the DC comics or the Burton films.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST
Stealth-based aircraft don't need to be aerodynamic. Example: The Stealth Bomber!
by Atkinson
You talkbackers are amateurs, I swear.
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Or should we people have to write "Nolan's version of Batman" when referring to the thematic "world" that was created in the Nolan Batman movies every time? You do realize they're very different than every other iteration of Batman, yes? And that we need a way to semantically differentiate them, yes? And that one way to do that would be to use a single word that encapsulates the idea and the concept and is unmistakable in terms of who and what it actually refers too? Even if its a dumb, made-up word? I mean it's not like you confused "Batverse" with a new type of shoe or some type of food processor, right? You pretty much got the reference right out of the box? Context is everything dude and just because someone uses a world like "Nolanverse" or "Nolan's Batverse" (like I did) doesn't indicate some gushy adulation or bullshit hero worship - it merely indicates "Christopher Nolan's Batman movies" without actually having to say "Christopher Nolan's Batman movies" to refer to the "world" create by Nolan and company for his Batman movies. Is using the word "world" out of place here? I mean Nolan didn't actually pull magical powers out of his ass and create an actual planet and universe to go along with it, but that notion might be lost on people, right? That explain it for ya champ?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
Typical Talkbacker: "Let me talk shit about a movie that made a billion dollars."
by Atkinson
"By the way, 'The Dark Knight' wasn't as good as Tim Burton's vision!" (sure fanboy)
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Not a flying vehicle per se, but a hovercraft? That's definitely "real world" tech, and doesn't have to be as aerodynamic as a plane. So, the new Batmobile is a hovercraft?
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Batman'll jump into it to deliver payback to Bane and the League of Shadows...
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This movie looks like a Spidey 3-level studio mandated toyfest. Batman SHOULD be either a) the worlds greatest detective or b) the worlds scariest badass vigilante. Every attempt to layer gadgets and planes and tanks and boats and wings and armor just diminishes the character. He isn't James Bond. He isnt Iron Man. Between the cars and the planes and Bane and Catwoman and al Ghul, this movie is headed in the direction of another toy marketing-driven cluster, with too many villains, where no character get adequate motivation or screen time. Just like Spidey 3.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST
The new Batmobile in vertical take off harrier mode.
by the Green Gargantua
Design is cool.
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I thought it was clear that the camo tumblers are not Batman's. Considering Bane was photographed sitting on one, considering the scene with Bane and his cronies featured at least 2 I'd say it was a good bet they belonged to the villians. Also photographed was a street scene between Batman & the villians featuring the camo tumblers and 1 black one. The black one being Batman's. As for that other thing, i'd say it was some kind of mini stealth plane, mainly because another reliable site reported that's what it is.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST
remember that grainy picture of the Joker that came out?
by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead
Pixel by pixel? And then nothing else, except that one long distance shot of Ledger and the still of the bank scene? That was how to build suspense. With this, i'm already getting that saturated 'in my head i've seen the movie already' type vibe. It's not their fault, I guess. Crowd/city scenes are going to leak. Did anything like this leak from The Dark Knight? I don't remember seeing so much this early.
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Batman is like a thousand times more gadgety than Bond
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and the sides of the transformed tumbler? and this design looks very familiar but i cant remember where i have seen it before? maybe the HALO wraiths? those alien planes in HALF-LIFE 2? the way those wings are extracted from the sarface,i have seen it before but where?
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extremely cool.
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is actually pretty cool, i checked it out. I like the the artist's homage Buscemi retro style, but think it's a little too similar though.
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figured I'd take that one off mothballs for a minute
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exactly what i have been saying about this film for the past month or two now
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST
Fools! Clearly, it's the Falcon Hypersonic HTV-2 glider...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...and Bane is going to lose contact with it.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST
I wonder who will take over this franchise when Nolan is done.
by oogles
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You've seen some pics of a fight in the snow, the tumbler, and some explosions at a football field. Please, tell me the plot and what happens. Don't worry about ruining it for me, I'll get over it. Interested to hear how Nolan's going to end it too. I'll wait here.
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Come up with a better name for it. Go ahead.
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Too many villains in TDKR? I only count one - and maybe Cotillard. Batman is the worlds greatest detective AND the worlds scariest vigilante, but as he has no powers he needs the gadgets. Maybe only people who know about the character and the comics should comment on stuff like this.
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Some more batman pics ------ yippee...... this is all such bullshit
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST
For proper camo, those cars should be painted like the sides of buildings rather than desert camo, while in the city.
by DonkeyBalls
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I still have myself convinced that it's being kept a secret but Joseph Gordon-Levitt is gonna actually be Robin. I think they could make him into a cool character, maybe be more of a tech geek character that helps the B-man. Probably not cause they already have a ton on their plate but I think JGL would be awesome as Robin
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a rig for them to shoot the top of the Batmobile without having to have the entire thing lugged up to where they want it? You know like a fight scene on the roof of the thing? Or it could be a stealth Batplane that lifts off the Batmobile. Why not?
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there's a year till release. Even The Dark Knight had the plot leaked a few weeks before release, and that was locked down way tighter than this. Can you honestly say you don't know more about this one already than we did about TDK?<P> I know that the Catwoman gets to Batman's bike. I know there's a big prison break that will draw Batman back out and may well be the climax of the film. I know it takes place in winter. I know Gordon is seriously injured. I know there are a shit ton of Tumblers involved. I know Ra's and Talia Al Ghul are involved. There's lots you can infer from what we've seen so far. <P> You seem to be needlessly antagonistic towards me, for my comment that we are seeing a lot more this time round and that the element of surprise may be considerably weakened if the current rate of spoilers keep up. Are you saying that i'm wrong?<P> I'll save being a sarcastic prick until your response, cheers bud
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http://www.twitvid.com/OG3RX Looks fucking awesome imo.
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I can see that you're just kicking off at everybody who says anything you can construe as negative because you seem to consider yourself some kind of oracle with an exclusivity contract on knowing anything about Batman.
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How do you know Talia Al Ghul is involved, the studio hasn't mentioned her. That's only internet rumours - like how Tom Hardy was going to play Hugo Strange. You know that Catwoman gets to Batman's bike. How, why, when? I'll agree we're seeing a lot of images, but we have no idea how they all link together and what part any of those images play in the film as a whole. My problem was only with you implying that you've "already seen the movie" from what's been leaked. Everything we've seen might happen in the first half-hour. You have no idea what's going to happen.
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in The Dark Knight. The first photo, I mean.
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That's the top of the Batmobile. It's probably rigged for a camera shot.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
I seriously cannot believe some of you people...
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
Saying things like "Over-exposed, too much of too little, too fast. "Here's the same vehicles we've been showing you on the streets for a month!" or "Jeez, I'm almost bored with this film already! Guys, sometimes less is more, yeah?" You do all realize they're MAKING THE MOVIE right? These aren't official promotional photos to drum up interest in the movie. If you're getting bored of seeing set pics of TDKR that local people have snapped and emailed to AICN then STOP visiting sites like this and clicking on the articles.
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I am a big Batman fan, and sometimes I pop onto AICN to see what's happening and find sad nerds being negative about absolutely everything. Most times? Couldn't give a crap. Sometimes, it's fun to pick at all the holes in their arguments.
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No, it's not. It's not even the same city. TDK's opening (like most of the film) was shot in Chicago. This is Pittsburgh. Somewhat similar looking, but not possible.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST
it's got tail wings, definitely some type of plane or flying vehicle...
by Squinty CGI Flynn
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By his third appearance he uses knock-out gas pellets and suction cups to climb a building. In the next couple of years he will have used at least some of the following: bat-gyro, batarangs, tear gas bombs, nightvision goggles, wireless radios concealed on him and Robin's person, acid vials, hidden explosives, a batmobile, a batplane, bullet proof vest, radioactive tracking technology (kind of like the irradiated bills in TDK) and rocket powered roller skates (and all of these pretty hi-tech for 1939-1940's). Batman definitely uses hi-tech gadgets. The question is how dependent on them is he?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
i'm assuming that the "plane" is just a mock-up of the cockpit and surrounding section, the entire thing will be filled in with CGI later
by Squinty CGI Flynn
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Note I said I was getting that feeling of having seen the movie. It's true, I am. I have in no way been privy to a secret showing of a film that hasn't been shot yet. But I am starting to feel that I won't be surprised. <P> KevinCostner's argument is so moot it could be a level on Street Harrier. Yes, films have to be filmed, all I was saying is how come TDK kept a much tighter lid on things? Filming on huge franchises have always been kept secret (ROTJ is one that springs to mind) so it is a bit facetious of Mr. Costner to suggest that we should be turning a blind eye because, aw shucks, they're just filming and we should all whistle and look the other way if there's a camera rolling. Angry for the sake of being angry.
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we've seen her leading some of the gun toting guys while wearing a very middleeastern/foreign/asian looking outfit. and she's a new character. and Nolan said Talia is going to be in it. 1+1+1=3
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http://www.twitvid.com/OG3RX
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why not just shoot someplace where it's actually snowing!...plus you're making all the actors wear heavy coats in the brutal heat...not a good way to treat your cast...somebody might sue for unsafe working conditions
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wonder if they will put in blades in CG...because i remember someone saying there WOULD be a bat copter in it. why a bat copter- or a flying thing- would stick to the road though? beats me.
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the flying H-K in the terminator movies. damn,i knew i had seen this design elsewhere.
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big fan of the comics, but he said in another thread that Batman Returns was faithful to the comica books in tone, dialogue, characterization, etc etc etc. Dipshit, comics grew up since the 1940's. It actually became and artform. Retuns was not art. It was shit thrown against a brick wall.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST
Abrams scool of secrecy. is that by the Abrams technical college of Hype?
by zom-bot.com
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information to counteract all this shit that is making us have doubt? I think that a trailer that used 99% footage from the previous movie and 2 seconds of Batman being stalked by Bane is the worst thing done so far to damage this film. Even more so than the football stadium Lord Humongus footage. Do it right Nolan. It's time to start releasing some shots that give us hope instead of "meh."
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Aug. 12, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
I love how people are complaining that this movie is being spoiler...
by Executor
Now we know the giant surprises that Batman is going to fight Bane. And that a batmobile is going to drive down the street. Yeah. I feel like I've seen the movie already.
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Returns wasn't art, it was shit thrown against a wall.
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(As I was saying before AICN decided to post only half my comment...) Burton returned to the original comics? What a crime. And to say something isn't art you first have to define art.
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it looks really good side on, nice cockpit, you can even see batman in there.
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Could they at LEAST paint the ugly things? Please.
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i can`t not click. it`s a product of todays instant gratifcation media and i can`t get away from it. shame becase i really dont need to see this stuff and yet it`s like a car crash, i just can`t look away.
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I like the Nolan Batman series but this seems to me as though the studio is in hype overdrive. Are they nervous? Don't always have to go for "bigger, badder, better." Just wrap it up nicely and call it a day.
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Really steppin it up with the vehicles this time. Looks like a stealth plated scorpion.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST
Batjets, Tumblers, batpods, Bane,Catwoman, the return of Rhas Al Ghul, fuck the haters I can't wait to see this movieeeeee!!!!!
by Arkhaminmate001
If anyone thinks that the director of TDK & Inception won't bring anything less than one of the most stylish action movies ever they belong here in Arkham with me!!! You'll all miss Nolan when he's moved on and Michael Bay's directing the next Batman movie with Shia LeDuffboy as Bruce Wayne.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST
They closed down a highway outside of Chicago this week for Man Of Steel.
by SnootyBoots
Why aren't we seeing any video of that?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
OK Executor. What did you know about TDK a year before release?
by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead
Maybe not even the title.
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that the only 'good' way to fight injustices and criminals (most of which you prompted into existence, batman) is to have tons of money, gadgets and connections at your disposal. if you try to do it with civilian weapons and homebrew body armor (aka you are a poor but moral person), you are a sad vigilante and a criminal as well. we see this at the start of TDK. if an elite tycoon does it, it's okay. if you do it, it's bad. batman's 'mask' or identity is nothing more than a corporate name or logo or symbol that he uses to do illegal things and get away with it- because it is a brand, a company, not a person. think of how many corporations do wrong under an assumed name and get away with it. corporations want rights of an entity or man when it suits them, but when it comes to facing the law- they claim they are just a company with no one accountable. there have been many papers about how batman really represents the elite, right wing wet dream- where he uses money and power and the services of others to fight injustices he perceives, which are really just the product of a system created by people like him. the imablance of economic equality will always breed 'criminal' behavior. you can say that a poor person who stole a car because he robbed a bank because his family is starving is a bad person? yet we think Batman is cool because he blows up cars and private property to get to a bad guy who might reveal his identity or kill someone that HE knows. pretty selfish, really. when have we seen batman 'protect' gotham? stopping the water evaporator, maybe. even then, he was just cleaning up a mess that wouldn't even exist if it weren't for his millionaire lineage. so maybe Nolan is secretly going to reveal that the mythos of batman is this flawed elite right wing wet dream. that it's unsustainable. that it's selfish. that whenever it tries to help it actually hurts- cause more damage than it was created to fix. that would be funny.
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Today's contestant: Anne Hathaway. DOES she give anal? Aaaand ... GO!
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Which isn't surprising, as the concept for Batman is equally as ridiculous and juvenile.
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Christopher Nolan is one of the finest directors working in Hollywood today, if not the finest! I personally think his films are pretty fucking great. The man likes to use old school movie magic i.e miniatures and camera techniques straight out of the Kubrick/Hitchcock school of mastery. And all this at a time of lazy CGI!.....and guess what? The man's making Batman movies! Fucking three of them! and the first two are brilliant. And what do I hear? "Nolan cant direct action". "Nolan cant direct fight scenes", "My Mother didn't pay me enough attention as a child" etc etc! If you don't like what the man has to offer, fuck right off!
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I must be thinking of somebody else from that thread. Sorry.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST
I also just got my degree from Abrams' Running From An Explosion But Then Propelled Forward By It Rather Then Being Killed Vocational School
by Cletus Van Damme
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The marketing for Nolan's Batman films have been a pretty good indicator of the final look of the films. "Begins" had all of those deep orange, rusty-colored posters and Pfister gave the film a very deep sepia tone. "The Dark Knight" had those awesome posters that were drenched in a deep-water blue type of tone, and thats how much of the final film looked as well. "The Dark Knight Rises" advertising has pushed a very starkly black-and-white motif so far, so seeing a snow-covered Gotham has me excited that they may carry that motif over to the visuals of the film. It could be as close as we'll ever get to seeing a "Noir" Batman on the big screen. The spoilers are starting to kill me, though. I can't stop clicking the shit, so its my fault. But I felt like I ruined a lot of TDK by already knowing about the Batpod reveal, Harvey Dent's turn, etc. Now I already know a (presumably) big reveal in the Bat Jet. Argh.
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if there is nothing else the trolls can find to like about nolan, we should all agree- the tech is sweet. even if you don't like the look of it. nolan's crew totally scratch designed two or more vehicles the world has NEVER seen before. for a movie! and these are functional things- not like burton's bat boat or bat jet or the long, awkward (but look looking) batmobile. anyone can design somehting and make the prop work, but these wizards have totally invented a new type of WORKING motorcycle and large assault vehicle. full size. operational. for. a . mo. vie. sure they are a little flawed but with more tweaking they could be very practical.consider them an actual lucious fox prototype. there is still some finishing touches to work out. so you have to respect that. if you don't, then you really must not appreciate anything in life.
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Fuck off.
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since Nolan used Blade Runner as a blueprint for the look/feel of BATMAN BEGINS. You've heard it here first, mark the date and time.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST
god my spelling is horrible today. LUCIOUS fox for crying out loud. ha ha
by zom-bot.com
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How does that video "clearly" show that it is a flying vehicle? Personally I don't see how that looks like a flying vehicle whatsoever. It looks more like a bigger tank version of the tumbler, like what Batman used in Dark Knight Returns. Hell, it looks more like a MechWarrior robot than it does a flying vehicle.
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what you describe.this is a franchise to sell toys and nothing more.and in order to do so,it needs its hero to be beyond any social or political criticism.it only needs to represent the pure good which fights the pure evil and nothing more. take for instance Ras's way of saving GC.we never saw his way of things,his ideology was never put into examination.he was simply the bad guy because he was going to kill innocent people. but what if this was a necessary sacrifice for the salvation of a corrupted city like GC? that 'what if' question, Nolan apparently didnt thought of or didnt want to even put it into debate with Batman and make us,the audience,to think what solutions are feasible when your society is in the brink of total destruction,something that it is not that far from what happens in our world right now. anyway.
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Have at it. Whine about this, spit your venom that it isn't what you want, or 'deserve' or what's come before. You just nail home why normal people want to push people like you in front of trains. You're fucking ridiculous.
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a booster engine,which will help the tumbler itself to fly.it is not a separate flying machine,but rather the tumbler turns into a semi-flying machine.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST
I'm attending the Abrams Put your name on something then walk away school of design.
by zom-bot.com
it's pretty sweet. we learn how to start something, let other people actually do the work on it, then if it's a success you take credit for it and if it's a failure you remind everyone you were just a producer. i'm minoring in Spielberg Aping 101 and a partial class about starting something really grand and then totally pissing out on the ending.
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That's something I commend Nolan for in these Bat-films. Anyone else would have said "How do we make an 18-wheeler do a handstand? ILM!" Nolan's an old school guy that wants to do as much as he can in-camera. Who gives a shit if it's hard, it will look real.
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someone who sees that sacrifices will be made and carries his plan to better the world is viewed as a villain. someone who believes that no one should have to die to make the world better is viewed as a hero, and people tend to die as a result anyway.
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Looks like the ED-209 from Robocop!!!
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Is this one of those Spielberg "I'll never make a movie with evil aliens" sort of things?
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It doesn't look like it could fly. But maybe it's folded up to fit on the truck. The back really looks like a plane tail, but it's hunched over and maybe the jets are moved to the front and look like cannons (so they look almost like something out of Robotech, but maybe that's just done so they can move it).
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Aug. 12, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST
the first prototype Tumbler would fly over a ravine instead of leap over and build a bridge?
by the Green Gargantua
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I'm sure....Money is on the plane though. Maybe a hovercraft kind of thing....
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Aug. 12, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST
Nolan's bat films are the most overrated/overhyped things we've had this decade
by Billy_D_Williams
His bat films really aren't that good...he's done much better work before in Memento. I said it before and I'll say it again...Begins is much like X1, like a trailer for a good Batman movie. Not terrible, not great. TDK is so chuck full of plot holes and inconsistencies it's nearly comical. Some of these things wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem if Nolan hadn't trapped himself in a corner with the whole "realism" angle. The number one way to measure the success or failure of a film is to ask two questions: 1. What is this film TRYING to achieve? 2. Does it achieve it? Nolan's bat films, especially TDK are trying to achieve a realistic take on a comic book super hero. In this regard it fails miserably. There are far too many plot holes and inconsistent, inplausible, downright ridiculous moments in this movie. I've listed them in detail before. Here I will cliff notes it: Gordon's sudden transformation into a fortune teller/faking his death scenario Batman's impossible entrance into the Wayne party ("then you're gonna love me"), appearing suddenly out of thin air in a brightly lit room full of dozens of people and multiple Joker goons without being detected The school bus incident The incompetent district attorneys Harvey/Two Face's magical ability to heal his burned suit The impossible timing of the fat guy with the cell phone in his stomach/the improbability of the Joker knowing he'd be caught just in that exact instant The Joker killing Lao situation (too long to go into) and many others... TDK completely falls to pieces on closer inspection, and I'm not talking about nitpicking, these are OBVIOUS flaws to anyone playing attention (which most people are too busy ooh-ing and ahhh-ing/licking Nolan's nutsac to do)...and people like me are crucified for bringing them up. It's like pointing out a mustard stain on somebody's tie and them flipping out and gettind mad at you for pointing out the obvious. Now if Nolan had merely aimed to do a comic book movie with a comic book sensibility, these problems may not have been as big an issue...but he didn't, he tried to make a realistic crime saga with a man who dresses as a bat in it, and failed miserably. Begins is a whole other story...my point is, Nolan is currently one of the most overrated filmmakers in the world, probably THE SINGLE MOST OVERRATED FILMMAKER IN THE WORLD TODAY. Of course if you make a movie that makes a billion dollars off a geek property as popular as Batman, little things like plot holes and inconsistencies dont matter much...they are the pin dropping in an arcade...unseen and unheard.
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pad. Tyler Perry.
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"...the only 'good' way to fight injustices and criminals is to have tons of money, gadgets and connections at your disposal." You mean like the police? Go figure.<p> "...if an elite tycoon does it, it's okay." No. Just more effective.<p> And please link me to the "many papers" on how Batman "...represents the elite right-wing dream". Not just anyone could be Batman... the point of his legend is that Bruce Wayne isn’t just anyone. He’s a paragon of intellect and will, one in a billion, who chooses to be a knight when he could have been a king. Your Marxist world view makes you simply unable to grasp the concept of a millionare who is not 'evil' or out to harm society. Such a limited intellect.<p> If a punk robs a gas station with a ski mask...is that his "corporate logo"? It's called a disguise halfwit. And it's MORE than that. As Wayne himself explains" Bruce Wayne can be "killed, ignored" etc. So he becomes a symbol. Something "elemental" that will strike fear into the hearts of criminals. <p> Apparently, you are much more comfortable with the idea that threats to your loved ones and fellow citizens are 'Somebody Else’s Problem'. It's a good thing the police and politicians are such paragons of virtue and free from corruption in Gotham. It's clarifying to know what side YOU would be on.
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for clicking on obvious spoiler links and then bitching about it. LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE'S TAKING A TOUR OF WHINE COUNTRY. Man up, you bitch.
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The batjet in the Tim Burton movie looked cool but wasn't overly practical. But, a vertical take-off, hovering then thrusting forward jet would be quite manueverable.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST
Yup, Bane breaks Batmans back, Nolan wraps this series. Then it gets REBOOTED.
by Pixelsmack
Fucking love Hollywood right now. No one has patience. Movies are in theaters for 2-weeks. DVD/Blurays/Stream hit 3-months or less after in theaters. And series are rebooted faster than I blow my load on my imaginary girl-friends back.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST
they just filmed it flying so it's deffinatelty a batplane of some sort
by wattos new hat
it's going to be weird when i see that scene in the movie, the batplane flying down a road, and maybe cgi to make it look like it goes off the bridge? i wonder if i will be able to forget the behind the scenes footage and believe what i'm seeing.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST
Sheesh...if this could only BE the last time it has to be said...
by Darth Macchio
...liking any one or all of Christopher Nolan's films does not mean you also are liking his ball sack or want to lick his ball sack. It means your opinion is different. That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. You get flamed for hating on the supporters and complain about it yet you lay the hate on the supporters. And the idiot tennis match goes on and on... You can get all witty and hilarious and insulting and throw all the verbal spew on the screen you want but it doesn't matter even half as much as half a dog's ass hair because film, no, plain old entertainment in ANY form, is a subjective medium and no matter how much it offends your sensibilities that someone likes what you hate... ...fucking walk it off already.
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than the flying machines in The Terminator movies. That's kind of what this reminds me of. Clearly the Tumbler can now transform into some kind of flying vehicle, but not exactly a plane. More like a low altitude hovercraft.
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Your talk about "comic book sensibility" makes me suspect you haven't read any comic books. And you think TDK "failed miserably?" lol!
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST
What is all this fucking bullsit with these fucking photos
by mcgoocain
"And here is my Aunt Milly on the beach. Oops, her top slipped! And here we are at the amusement park- we had hot dogs and french fries. And here is junior throwing up on Aunt Millie!!! Oh My!! And here is the rental car we got when we visited the islands - isn't it a beaut!!! and so on and so on and so fucking on....... Why can't someone take a set pic of Batman taking a batshit- fuck it all motherfuckers......
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST
...''someone who sees that sacrifices will be made and carries his plan to better the world is viewed as a villain. ''
by DoctorWho?
Adolf Hitler<p> Mao Tse-tung<p> Pol Pot<p> Your kind of guys eh? "someone who believes that no one should have to die to make the world better is viewed as a hero, and people tend to die as a result anyway."<p> And your point is...what exactly??? <p> I guess if a perfect, 100% chance of success is not guaranteed it is useless to try. Yet, if your intention all along IS to kill people it's okay.<p> Dude, you are easily the most intellectually and morally bankrupt poster I have ever witnessed on AICN... and that's saying a lot! Carry on.
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Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot! Pol Pot!
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST
redgobbbo...comic book sensibility = something akin to Burton's original Batman
by Billy_D_Williams
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The Batmobile looks like a tank and Batman looks like a hockey goalie. Fuck practicality, whatever happened to STYLE?
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It's going to be a fucking toy commercial. The more of this shit I see, the less interested I am in seeing the film itself.
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And you are what? A paragon of virtue, or just some anonymous guy pretending to be morally superior to what, some other anonymous guy? Save it for church....
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Rocketing out from the underbelly of Gotham, right into Bane's Duckmobile.
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DOES Anne Hathaway give anal?
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your dick is not big enough to satisfy that hungry for meat,dirty hole of hers.HA.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST
Looks like a flying lobster... I am not sure now if this is what one of the Tumblers transforms into...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
There are a lot of components about it that resemble sections of a Tumbler, but now I'm not sure if one of the Tumblers can change into this. The most problematic element is the cockpit -- I am trying to imagine how that cockpit being tall as it is could plausibly fold and extend out from the wide span of the Tumbler cockpit. I'm going to pull screengrabs and compare it to pictures of a Tumbler. But I do think that this Batwing (AKA The Flying Lobster) changes its physical configuration.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST
Nolan was "forced" to make this movie? Can someone please explain how?
by ragingfluff
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One that is a couple years old now. The same posts... Like seriously the same posts were being made about The Dark Knight. Flame hating the Joker... The sets... Yet that movie rocked. I'm sure this will be great as well. Judging a movie from pictures of vehicles on a highway is the dumbest shit ever! I understand most of you are social nitwits... That bashing shit makes you feel strong... Like you matter. Well you don't matter for shit. Why not be excited for this movie? It's going to be epic.
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I think the best Batman films are the ones that limit the gadgets. I like that the character has technological know-how, but I prefer Batman to sit more in the "real world" rather than a sci-fi one. And like the Bond films, the more gadgets they introduce, the more silly things seem to get. I like what Nolan has done and if anyone can pull this off, he can. But he more spoiler pics I see the more I fear he has jumped the shark. I hope not. I hope this film is a crime drama similar to the way TDK was.
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Dirty pool, old man. And I mean Anne's bungvoid, not your weak dig at me.
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the cops in the tumbler chase seemed corny as fuck, even in Begins, they were comic book personalities, which does not match Nolan's realism angle; another of the many problems with these films...they are inconsitent as fuck, any discerning film fan can see the plainly obvious here....
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and i am too bored right now to check the urbandictionary.so i dont understand what you are saying to me.and frankly i dont even give a damn.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST
those slagging off the batwing design as unflyable
by chronicallydepressedlemming
It'll have CGI elementals. It's probably VTOL and the engines will be CGI. I imagine something like the GDI Orca from C&C games: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9011/Orca_Large.png
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TDK was a crime drama? really?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST
I seriously think that Mattel had a say in this, requesting that they add as many vehicles as possible so they could sell more toys...
by Jim Jam Bongs
The various toy versions of The Tumbler is actually the best selling version of a Batmobile toy ever. Likewise, I bet Warner Bros. ordered Nolan to put Catwoman in the movie. She and all these transforming Bat vehicles are the creative concessions Nolan agreed to in order to be left alone in regards to the rest of the script and refusing to shoot in 3D.
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He was threatened with huge stacks of money. If he didn't make the movie they weren't going to give them to him. Warner Brothers, you monsters...
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...And series are rebooted faster than I blow my load on my imaginary girl-friends back... Thanks for the best laugh I've had all week. Laugh out loud at the office but not able to tell anybody why funny!
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They had 3 Camo-tumblers that they said Bane stole. One had a cannon on top that they actually fired to demo the pyrotechnics before they big SFX scene. So there are different versions of the tumbler.
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You realize Nolan's flicks are much, much closer to batman comics than Burton's, right?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST
=You realize Nolan's flicks are much, much closer to batman comics than Burton's, right?=
by KilliK
prove it.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST
Sorry newbies but Batman is to advanced vehicles and gadgets as Iron Man is armor. This is a realistic utilitarian approach, but it's still Batman.
by the Green Gargantua
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a few years ago photos surfaced of hathaway and her (now criminal real estate scammer) boyfriend on a boat in deck chairs, and hathaway is clearly blowing him while he is smiling and yacking on the phone (to coke dealer?). A friend of theirs is laying in the beach chair right next to them, so they were likely being watched by their friends. Also in a pic from the same day, she is sucking on his nipples as they stand there on the boat. So yeah, I think she is horny as hell. The girl next girl takes it in the pooper if that is what one of her douche bag boyfriends wants.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST
DON'T PUT SPOILERS IN THE HEADLINE..I didn't read the story because I didn't want details of the vehicle. Thanks Merrick
by moorE12
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that he does anal? but later her publicist managed to vanish that interview?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 4:56 p.m. CST
The tumbler turning into a mini Osprey would be more realistic, perhaps the props will be added in post..
by the Green Gargantua
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in fact i would love to see him in the movie using that armor of his and kick Bane's ass.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh6.ggpht.com/fishwy/SFnksAxUILI/AAAAAAAAA1s/J4AuF_fuQHs/pictureofannehathawayinbikinibitingf%255B1%255D.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fisherwy.blogspot.com/2008/06/anne-hathaway-dumped-boyfriend.html&usg=__-SNAXM8-Axw7CCNcSUUdzIpTwXI=&h=522&w=350&sz=44&hl=en&start=0&sig2=xmp8YysCouT1QaUSpkXY1A&zoom=1&tbnid=zYHtVjj-OcAg6M:&tbnh=136&tbnw=84&ei=AaFFTuCoG8rUgAewxOy7Bg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhathaway%2Bboat%2Bboyfriend%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D562%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=312&page=1&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=34&ty=63
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I agree. I'm not sure where this movie is going but I hope we're not in for a "techfest" where Batman's riches to buy the biggest and baddest toys will be the only reason why he saves the day. He should save the day not because of simple heroics or by having a nuke, but rather it should be because he's smarter than the rest and can think outside of the box. Character is what makes a hero, not one's bank account (at least in fiction).
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How DEFUCK could I forget those pics? What a dirty little slut. Come to CHOPPAH!
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http://www.google.com/imgres?q=hathaway+boat+boyfriend&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&biw=1024&bih=562&tbm=isch&tbnid=TLFinwPDIKkMRM:&imgrefurl=http://uvtblog.com/2008/10/anne-hathaway-hmmmmmmm/&docid=puYrNo1aVP5VdM&w=1800&h=1208&ei=AaFFTuCoG8rUgAewxOy7Bg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=469&page=1&tbnh=136&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0&tx=90&ty=80
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Whaddya want me to do-buy you a bunch of batman comic books? Go get yer own.
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the twilight zone on the left. Weird.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST
redgobbo, sensibility is the style in which the story is told
by Billy_D_Williams
Nolan's films play more like vigilante crime flicks than comic book movies, thats the style he's chosen...Burton's films are far more comic book like in tone/sensibility
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a. You don't like it, don't click it b. These are pics coming from people, not the studio/hype machine, you fools. c. For those of you complaining about AICN linking to them, if they didn't, the other half of you neanderthals would say "Way to be behind the times aint it late!"
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST
I love a bitch who'll suck man nip. Very dirty girl
by Geektard_Smasher
uh, not to mention blowing BF while body guard or whoever is two feet away pretending not to notice or have a boner Her sex scenes in Havoc, especially the near Mexican gangbang (just using the term gangbang about a Hathaway film is weird still, ain't it?) were indications that she was trying to get away from Princess whatever films, but also choosing a role with scenes like that (that contained not one but two of the Mexi gangsta a-holes from that harrowing Training Day scene) really points to her having some kind of sexual liberation once she was out most of her teen years. She also dumped that boyfriend the second it looked like he was getting convicted, which makes her a basic cunt. But damn, I'd love to get my booze hole onto that fur burger on a nice summer eve.
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got anymore?
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Burton is more like the retarded comics of the 40's and 50's. Nolan has more of a resemblence to Neil Adams Batman of the late 70's. I haven't bought a new comic in over a decade but even I know that. Anybody who reads comics but doesn't realize that is either retarded or just up for an arguement. I'm thinking both.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST
i didn't say Burton's films were better geektard, talk about being late to an argument
by Billy_D_Williams
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I guess I just don't like when filmakers approach these flicks like "Its a comic book movie-fuck it let's film anything" where it seems Nolan thinks "I better please the nerds"
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST
the problem is Nolan tries to approach Batman in his cerebral way and it doesn't work
by Billy_D_Williams
it worked for Memento doesn't work for Batman, which is far more theatrical and batshit and suited for someone with that style
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A good movie should be about conflicts between characters, more specifically, their conflicting psychologies, where they differ, even if at some point they come from the same roots. The focus should not be on Tumbler "battles". It might be a highlight but that better not be a script's selling point. It'd be like asking someone to be emotionally invested in INANIMATE "things". No matter how cool they appear to be, it's going to come off as forced. We, as people, simply cannot relate to emotionless objects on a deeper level, things we have no personal connections to (unlike a personal memento, ie: a watch or a similar time piece). There are exceptions of course, such as the Terminator movies or Robocop but those characters are written to have human elements. Tumblers are just expensive props on 4 wheels.
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Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSUZHRF2ZJg&feature=player_embedded
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST
RE: Burton is more like the retarded comics of the 40's and 50's
by Continentalop
Disagree geektard. The 40's & 50's were hardly *retarded* IMO. In fact to me that is the most interesting period of Batman because that is where all the hard work happened. Think about it, almost every recognizable element and trait from the Batman mythos was invented during that period. Later writers and artist had it easy because they could just "reinvent" what Kane, Fingers, Robinson and the others did. And besides, even if the stories were more simplistic, isn't it the original versions of Batman, Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face and the others that still inspire everyone?
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of many of those old comics, especially by the 60's, was pretty childish. But that is who they were aiming at. The Silver Age started adulting up the comics a bit. Changing with the times. But yeah, I know all the best seeds of all the oldest comic characters were lain back in the day. And I like them too, but a Batman for grownups is what I like and that is what happened in the 70's.
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the problem is Nolan tries to approach Batman in his cerebral way and it doesn't work
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST
Oh, and I'm surprised at how much daylight footage of Batman there's been so far...
by Tarijeno
Every Youtube video we've seen of filming so far (Batman and Bane fighting on the steps of City Hall, The Batjet floating through Pittsburgh, Bane at the Football Stadium, etc...) have all been going on in broad daylight... Now clearly it's a lot easier for a fan to videotape something in daylight vs nightfall, so of course everything we're seeing will be shot while the sun in still out, but there's still a shocking amount of footage floating around with Batman waltzing around in his gettup at 3 in the afternoon...
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST
=where Batman's riches to buy the biggest and baddest toys will be the only reason why he saves the day. =
by KilliK
you mean just like it happened in TDK,where he used that high tech mobile technology made by Luscious,in order to take control of all GC's mobiles. And then he turn them into both receivers and mini radars with a direct feedback in his eyes,which gave him the ability to know and see everything that was happening everywhere in GC,even in the complete dark of the night? that non-gadget,non-Bond,non-utilitarian,Batman who doesnt uses his riches to make super toy to fight crime,are you talking about? i love it when the fanboys trash a movie for the same reasons which already exist in TDK.and especially when they accuse the rest of us,of envy and hate when we criticize TDK as being an overrating movie of mediocrity.
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that I know of. But just makes the imagination soar more, right? I mean, in Havoc they cut the scene with Anne and Bijou Phillips snowballing Mexican drug dealer jiz, so we can only imagine what might be. Oh yeah, they cut the scene of her eating The Rocks ass out in Get Smart too. tons and tons of Hathaway bikini shots online. The best ones don't show her face up too close.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST
You know, after watching that video I'm starting to question whether it's even a flying craft at all.
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
Maybe it's actually some kind of 'uber-tumbler', kind of like what he uses in The Dark Knight Returns and the gigantic wheels/tracks and everything will be CG'd in later.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST
=of many of those old comics, especially by the 60's, was pretty childish=
by KilliK
flash news.they remain childish.BATMAN INC? ofc why not? after all Batman is a businessman,he made vigilance into a corporation.
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who knew !
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:37 p.m. CST
@kevin_costners_recycled_piss I was thinkin the same thing. It seems to stay level..
by the Green Gargantua
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...chest protector Well, ok, actually it's the Batplane-mobile.
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lion
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST
70's & later comics were written for an older audience
by Continentalop
But I always liked how Golden Age comics actually seemed more *realistic*, for lack of a better word. More childish, yes, but also more plausible and seemed more like something that could exist in the real world compared with the later Batman comics. I mean, in the Golden Age Batman wasn't just fighting super-villains and meeting other super-heroes. Most of his adventures were crime/detective stories where he would go up against gangsters, thieves, murderers, and racketeers. And when he did face a recurring villain they were rarely super-powered villain but instead just some flamboyantly and theatrical arch-criminal. And besides Superman, Batman never met another Superhero, so no team up every other issue with a dozen super-powered heroes. I got to give Miller credit, he is the only person who seems to have combined the Golden Age emphasis on realistic crime with Bronze Age maturity and believability. I wish more comic writers would do that.
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either the tumbler deploys an extra mechanism which helps it to fly,or the tumbler transforms into a bigger,tank like,vehicle which carries a lot of weaponry. Something like those vehicles in the MASK cartoon.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST
After studying screengrabs of both video clips and compared the Flying Lobster with the Tumbler... it could be possible that it's a Tumbler that converts into this...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
However, if this is what they're going for (a Tumbler that transforms into an aircraft), it's going to be even more of a stretch in plausibility than the reveal of the Batpod ejecting from the Tumbler. Look closely at the top window of the Batwing's cockpit -- the two triangles at the side of this window could be the front two window frames of the Tumbler. On the Tumbler, the front window frames could retract upwards and split apart, revealing the Batwing's cockpit top window -- the driver seat is shifted to the center and the lower length of the cockpit drops down and is revealed. The tires and the entire wheelbase would be ejected of course. (The tires aren't retracted as they would weigh this aircraft down.) Still, this would be a stretch in terms of "realism." Regardless, there are too many miscellaneous folds and sharp-angled characteristics of this Batwing that strongly suggest it changes its configuration.
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Whereas using all the mobile phones in GC as a receiver/radar device in order to know and see everything,everywhere in GC, it isnt.right.
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It's been sitting in applied sciences for years since the military didn't want to pay $9,000,000,000 for a wheelchair.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST
Having a functional motorcycle pop out of the Tumbler was a stretch....
by Tarijeno
Having a giant crab bot which is at least twice the size of the Tumbler "emerge" from the Tumbler is a little too much IMHO. To me it looks like Bane and his crew get a hold of a few Tumblers, keep them Camo colored, and go on a rampage (this is backed up by a lot of pictures of Hardy on set standing atop the Tumbler and word of mouth by crewmembers) Now if the crabmobile emerges from the Tumbler, what would prevent Bane and his army from producing a couple of their own flying crab monsters? I think the Morgan Freeman character designs and builds the crab banshee specifically for Bruce.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST
killik: I don't disagree with you. But a lot of people did whine about that, the Batpod and other elements in TDK.
by Prof. Pop-Cult
For the record, I personally loved TDK. I am uncertain whether this Batwing is the result of a Tumbler transforming. Comparing shots of it and a Tumbler, you can see enough similarities where the latter could transformer into the former. But it's not obvious, and would really stretch credibility.
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if you look at the background below the last pic, there is a car parked in a handicap space. Coinkidink? I think not...
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My cat is morally superior to zombot based on his idiotic ravings. Calling 'em as I see 'em.
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It would make sense that Bats would use a more advance, armored, and maybe even flying one (I think it is land locked but has some kind of legs so it can crawl over rubble). Fox always has these "prototypes" laying around. Like Foghorn keeping his feathers numbered.
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HIS FUCKIN BAT JET BE RISIN' SON SON. (it's the new CHOPPED)
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It's true, shart-tards. Google that shit. GOOGLE STRETCHY NUTSACKS, SON. SON.
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It looks like that Bane and his army somehow procure three camou Tumblers. (Speculation is that it is Talia, who sits on the board of Wayne Industries, using an assumed name, slips the vehicles to them.) These three Tumblers are different from one another. Two of them clearly look different from one another -- one has a flip-open rocket launcher. The third one looks like Batman's original Tumbler. Up till now, it's been assumed Camou Tumbler #3 would be the same as Batman's (that is, it would have an ejectable Bikepod). But now the revelation of this Batwing brings the theory that the third camou Tumbler turns into this. (There is another spy shot that shows an identical Batwing but apparently painted in camouflage.) As for how Bane and his army's use of these vehicles and how Batman is involved: Well, one can imagine several plot situations and contrivances -- likely, Bane and his thugs have no idea how to fully operate the Tumblers, and they don't even realize one of them can fly. Batman could retake the one that changes to an aircraft. Apparently, Selena takes a Bikepod (or Batman's Batpod) and she could be chased by the camouflage version of the Batwing. It stands to reason (I would speculate) that the person who most likely would chase Selena and know how to pilot the Batwing to go after her is Batman.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST
i love how whenever someone criticizes inherited wealth and capitalism
by zom-bot.com
..they always get called a marxist. pretty sure Marx is not the end all be all debater of monetary struggle. and when they say that sometimes people will probably die over the course of mankind evolving, they get compared to hitler. all i said was, us poor folk can't be vigilantes. batman can- and i stated why. and that there are bad people that probably need to be killed. that's the death penalty. it's still open for debate. my beef is with billionaires stealing money and getting short terms in luxury prisons, if they even serve, vs. a guy who apologizes when robbing a bank, gets $100 and is put away for life. money buys justice.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST
Looks like another stolen element from THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS
by MooseMalloy
You remember, right? The Bat-Tank thing.
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With all that nut-talk, it sounds like you are gearing yourself up for another Friday night of cruising Santa Monica Blvd. for cock to chug. Do you prefer old jewish guys or fat Mexicans?
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The part in TDK where the Tumbler pukes out the Batpod (while cool) doesn't feel realistic. I can sort of buy it because the batpod is visibly smaller than the Tumbler, but the Bat-plane, or whatever it's called looks a little too large and differently detailed than the Tumbler. Plus I would wonder why the US government would turn down the Tumbler as a military vehicle when it can turn into both a hovership and a motorcycle. That was the Freeman excuse in the first movie, right? "We could never get the damn bridge to work, etc..."
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Gentlemen of AICN, I love this website. I have visited more times than I care to count over the years, and all visit it countless times in the future. I enjoy your reviews, your interviews, your set visits. Everything. But is there any way you cannot post the spoilers for 'Dark Knight Rises' (or any other film for that matter) in the title. Some people like to avoid spoilers and by putting it right on your home page, directly in the title, there is simply no way to do so. I doubt this will get read and probably nothing will come of this, but please, for the sake of the fan who wants to walk in as blissfully unaware as possible to that midnight screening a year from now, please be more careful with the subject lines for your posts. I really do not want to find out more about this movie and it's becoming increasingly difficult. Signed, Concerned Fan
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CARLOS MENCIA ANYONE? STANKED. (it's the new SON)
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If you are so worried, why go to a site like this at all? Mainstream news will eventually filter non spoiler shit to you, and rags like Entertaiment Weekly are good at hiding the main goods while giving mild sneakers. Just stop coming to AICN. This site is basically about spoilers and dick jokes. If you don't like either don't come here. Unconcerned Drunk Doper
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Yeah, just know that Jefferson would be called a Marxist if the same people actually read him. So if you're a Marxist, you're in good company.
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Couldn't he come up with a cure for cancer or AIDS? Oh yeah, he's a corporation, there's no money in life, just death.
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Alex Ross, right?
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I really miss the old days when we would just get reports from the set and such. and not have to watch some production mockups and sit here and speculate about how much the film is going to blow donkey balls when we really dont have a damned clue. This is akin to wacking off at behind the scenes extras of a porno guys. It aint the real jazz. This type of speculation is asinine and it's retarded we are fueling it with soul-less comments. This movie will probably in all likelihood rock our socks off, I dont know anytime that Nolan hasnt delivered ....but I guess your all entitled to your opinions .....I'm just sayin give it a chance. It will still make a billion at the Boxoffice either way though.
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Thanks for the friggin' spoiler in the headline...ass wipes!!
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Anne positively drips with the most deviant forms of sex. Just look at that mouth...I think that mouth say's more about her sexuality than anything I could dream up. Typically...girls with a mouth like a horny grouper are down for some serious fucking kink, especially if they are also super hot in a girl next door kinda way. I can totally picture Anne loving an audience while she tosses someones salad, or takes the post anal load down her gaping maw. I bet that is some beautiful site to behold..those big pretty eyes looking up at ya as she opens that massive oral cavity up to feed like a starving baby bird...not the least concerned with a little leftover on the tip of her mans member. And never mind those picky eaters and naysayers that will say she has "Flapjacks", they have no fucking eye for the real female form. I bet they complain like bitches when their steak isn't served well done enough....pussys Just look at those luscious natural cans. ALL real Men love natural gravity drawn melons. I love the way her delicious jigglers hang just the right amount to sway like pendulums of pleasure during hard doggy, yet her nipples ride high, firm and pert awaiting the moment when tooth meets flesh like bitting into the most succulent al dente pasta. I bet when those beautiful tits are tweaked her honey pot drips the purest sweetest nectar in Hollywood. Yes friends...with Anne...Anal is just the hot chocolate sauce on a very complex and delicious Sundae.
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...just a utility belt and a Batcock to fuck Catwoman with. Bale's Batman is too into leather to turn me on. Bane looks like his gimp.
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Perhaps you could produce some examples...anything AT ALL... written by Jefferson that people might consider "Marxist". Good luck with that.<p> I await that along with zombot's examples of the "many papers" apparently written on how Batman is a "right wing wet dream".
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You're getting me a little hard...
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I'm willing to bet you've penned some Penthouse Forum letters in your day.... "gaping maw" indeed LOLOL!
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WHAT?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST
to the poster who is concerned that everything will be spoiled before the movie is released
by ray a
Don't worry, nobody will find out the Batman dies ay the end. Only a few people know.
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CITY HALL Bane's army and the GPD are fighting. One of the Tumblers races up the steps. Selena Kyle takes off on Batman's Batpod. Batman is punching his way to the rocket-launcher Tumbler near him... BATMAN (on voice link) Lucius, I have to go after her -- can you override the security to the prototype! LUCIUS (OC) I can, but you should take the prototype that's at the building steps. BATMAN Why? It's too far away and surrounded by Bane's men! LUCIUS Trust me, Mr. Wayne. THAT is the one you want. Batman slug-punches his way to that Tumbler, Lucius overrides its security, Batman races off in it, to go after Selena. A BRIDGE is out. Lucius being all OnStar calmly gives Batman instructions, telling him what to press and activate on this Tumbler's control panel. Several of the exterior panels of the Tumbler fold, shift or blast away from the vehicle. Its sides fan open; its rear spoilers shift position, the ROAR of vertical take-off engines spin to life below the fanned open sides. Then a final round of mini explosion go off that release the body of the Tumbler from its wheel platform, launching it into the air -- transforming it into the BATWING. A HUD lights up before Batman against the cockpit window, tracking Selena on the Batpod. Two machine gun cannons snap out and lock into place at the sides of the cockpit. The audience OOHS and AAHS -- geekasm galore. BATMAN You're right, Lucius -- this IS the one I wanted.
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Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Madison in October of 1785 about the gap between rich and poor wrote "the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care that their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind...”. Jefferson then writes if the subdivision isn't enough “to tax the higher portions of property in geometric progression as they rise” might help. <p> I don't think of Jefferson as a Marxist at all, but I could see some people nowadays calling that Marxism.
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Complaining about a fictitious character not using his skills to handle the world's real problems is idiotic. I mean, in the real world we also don't have to deal with a Joker, Mr. Freeze, League of Shadows or Lex Luthor. If we did. maybe we would be bitching at some scientist for worrying about cancer instead of protecting us against super-villains.
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Who the fuck knows how it will turnout...I'm sure it'll be fine. So much is done in post these days you really can't tell much from spy photos other than obvious things like costuming and practical effects. And honestly..as "Real" and grounded as Nolan wants to make this series; the minute you put a fragile human in a suit shaped like a bat, and put him in something as absurd as the Tumbler as it's 6 or 7 tons Leaps from rooftop to rooftop...Reality has kinda been thrown out the window. Just calm the fuck down...and enjoy the fucking movie when it comes out my friends...and please...quiet your fucking Cell Phones.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST
=don't have to deal with a Joker, Mr. Freeze, League of Shadows or Lex Luthor.=
by KilliK
no,the cops deal with them. is this even supposed to be an argument?!?
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST
killik, we have seen how well the cops handle super-crooks in comics and comic movies
by Continentalop
Was that even supposed to be a counter-argument?!?
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That would work if Nolan didn't try to set these films in the real world. And in the real world we have scarier super villains.
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DE BAT CHOPPA!!! WTF? I would have rather it be a Bat PLANE than a chopper, but then again, the chopper hasn't been done since the 60s Camp movie, so might as wel go with it!
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Bane doesn't take it down with a 3 foot long .38 pistol.
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The copter being at street level means Bats is getting down and dirty. Probably tearing up Bane thugs left and right. Hope he banks the chopper so it's blades chop up some motherfuckers like they did in 28 weeks later. That was bossanova, man.
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simply because this THIRD movie will take you back to rewatching/buying the FIRST movie.... Which makes sense since he's going for a full circle thing... Damn..DVD sales for Batman Begins shall now surge like never before!
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at least since the 1940's. I'm thinking all the cops must have been disarmed, evn billy clubs, and something happens that lets them get some face punching in.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
duh this shit looks too close to inspector gadget
by cockstankbuttnasty
not liking this
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Think about it.... Batman via Martyrdom is how he will rise. hat is how he will become the TRUE legend, as far as legends go, anyway... (case in point: legends have to begin and end, in order to be considered a legend to begin with)
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:40 p.m. CST
Bat Plane would make more sense if it's flying through the streets...chopper blades would be dumb
by alienindisguise
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One of the major themes of the film was the inner workings of the Gotham Mayor's Office, Metro PD and the DAs Office who are trying to control a criminal conspiracy and internal corruption. Nolan has cited Heat, a notable crime drama, several times as major influence for TDK. Nolan: "To tell a very large, city story or the story of a city: If you want to take on Gotham, you want to give Gotham a kind of weight and breadth and depth in there. So you wind up dealing with the political figures, the media figures. That's part of the whole fabric of how a city is bound together." Sure it is still a superhero film, but TDK was a superhero/crime drama the same way The Green Lantern is a superhero/SF film. Batman mythos uses the film noir aesthetic heavily in many of its interpretations and that film genre is heavily informed by hardboiled detective/crime fiction. Even doing a search online generates many hits when you combine "TDK+CRIME+DRAMA". Two easy to find examples of this are: • Look at how TDK is tagged on IMDB. It is indexed as a ACTION | CRIME | DRAMA. • Wikipedia also has TDK listed under "List of crime films of the 2000s" in addition to being cited in the main article for "Film Noir."
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Going old school, maybe?
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TDK is definitely a crime drama, but it sure as hell isn't a film noir. Film noir is about the absence of heroes, not about how people accept the role of one.
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Aug. 12, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST
If it's a helicopter then why aren't there like a million wind machines?
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
Care to reveal your source Harry?
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And be a combination of a helicopter and jet plane (kind of like the Batgyro, thetransformedman).
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It's accepted practice.<p> I can totally see people calling that Marxist. But it isn't in the truest sense. <p> Marx believed in the New Man, reborn from the inevitable death and ashes of capitalism. <p> Universities have taught Marxist studies under the name of 'secular messianism'. Messianism...from the word messiah. A quasi religion if you will.<p> Just like the Christian waiting for Jesus, and the Jew waiting for the Messiah, MANY wait for this socialist utopia despite all evidence to the contrary.<p> Not a very Jeffersonian view.<p> Your point is well taken though. Touche!<p> But all of this distracts from the real question:<p> Does Anne Hathaway truly give anal?
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Google "aggressive quad rotor" Those little drones are scary as fuck. I'm guessing this will be something like that, four small, covered fan blades.
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Agreed. TDK is more accurately described as neo-noir IMO. It has noir-like elements: The colour palette (or lack thereof), a metropolis backdrop, mobsters, sexual psychology etc as well as character motivations such as greed, and jealousy and murderous conspiracies. So far, Nolan's films are missing the femme fatale element (although there may be 2 in the upcoming TDKR). But I will argue that in a noir/neo-noir film, while there are seldom heroes, there are certainly anti-heroes who tend to be private detectives. They are flawed individuals who are often loners. They have anxieties, are paranoid and are isolated or alienated from a decadent and corrupt society. However, many have a strong personal personal code. In this case, the private detective does not wear a trench coat or a fedora, but a bat suit... so in a sense the antihero is more like a vampire that does not prey on virgins, but on the criminal element. In this way Batman borrows elements from the gothic sub-genre or horror film and literature, which has some similarities to noir/neo-noir but is quite separate. Batman shares many if not all of the above qualities. The other side of the coin is Superman who uses a bright colour palette and it the archetypal hero/champion character and who stands for "Truth, justice and the American way" etc.
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Wow, that is pretty cool stuff... I know next to nothing about engineering, but the videos I saw are pretty spectacular demonstrations.
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maybe this will finally settle it. Ever meet a girl who dressed like this that DID NOT love the sharp, deep sting of a stretched, filled and rubbed raw salad shooter? http://tinyurl.com/3rp93y9
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HUMMINA HUMMINA HUMMINA!
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As long as that guy returns to reassure us of his distaste for the mortality of law enforcement, I'm happy.
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As long as that guy's back to reassure us of his distaste for the mortality of law enforcement, I'll be happy
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...some guy says "That's a camera? It looks like a spaceship". So either he's right and they've gone way over budget on their cameras or he's wrong and I'm right about him being wrong.
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Great. Giving things the "Bat" name. Starting to slide into Shumacher territory. Nolan and Bale are wise to exit after this one before it all becomes "Bat-Shit".
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never really found her that sexy, but she does have that "good girl" look about her that instantly makes you (well at least me) think about fucking her doggy style whilst slapping her butt
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While I agree the name is silly... As far as I can remember, I don't think the words "Batmobile" or "Batcycle" were ever uttered in the last two films, so I doubt we'll hear Batman say "Alfred, get the Bat-copter ready!" the fans might call it that...and the toy might even be called that, but I doubt it will ever be referred to as the Bat-copter in the movie (unless by a news reporter or someone being interviewed by one, which is the worlds most overused trick by superhero movies to justify giving things and heros/villains stupid names.)
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Aug. 12, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST
This is all a deploy, the real movie is being shot in Detroit.
by davsan38
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- the flying Batmobile. The undercarriage is just for the moves at ground level. Wonder if Ace is in it too?
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I mean when you build a protype bridge machine for the armed forces. It's best to make sure the fucker can turn into a motorcycle and a fucking helicopter as well. Fuck me.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST
Can you reimagine begins with Fox demo'ing all the tumblers modes
by TheJudger
can you imagine that now and not laugh over the sheer fucking absurdity of it all. When it turned into a bike in TDK it was cool mainly because it was very unexpected and somewhat believable. I know I will like bane, so far bane is still cool to me. The Cat and the Bat, not so much. Those skykid glasses look fucking retarded as helll. I dont care if they control the batpod. They still look fucking dumb to me, like Kayne West shutter frame glasses dumb...
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I liked Tim Burton's Batman movies. They were shiny, and had pretty colours.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 1:29 a.m. CST
To the people who keep saying "what's the point in watching now?" and "we've been spoiled so much!"
by sharpie
What exactly do we know from what we've seen? We know bane has tumblers and attacks a football game, we know catwoman rides a batpod at some point for some reason, and we know bats and bane fight on the steps of city hall. Is that about it? Let's see, based on TDK, if Bane has as many set pieces as Joker, what we know makes up 5-10 minutes of a potentially 3 hour long movie.<p> <p> Quit your whining.
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A Bathovercraft? If thats the Batwing then, Holy Cow, I owe myself a knobbing
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I dont know exactly why, but makes me think of Hawk's ship from Buck Rogers. Which is two things in one week, because the kick off in London this week really reminded me of the Mutants in Old Chicago.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 2:45 a.m. CST
So fed up of this 'Batman is a rightwing elite fantasy' bullshit
by alexander
its as inane and personally-willfully-projectively one sided as the 'In TDK Bats is obviously Bush fighting terrorists', and all the other ridiculous crap we've been over debating countless times (like Batman kills Rhas, Two face, that nonsense) before, which is fair enough i guess, but people insist on bringing up and regurgitating the same thing like it never happened with nothing new to add! Christ, save it for TDKR when it comes out, and if that is the Batwing, I'm sure you morons will have a whales vagina of a time pointing out how obviously those tumbles are like the taliban with our previous tech seizing and shooting down our boys so Bats new pimpin' ride is obviously like stealth with super drone tech to outdo the towelheaded bastards fuck me fuck yeah No
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Aug. 13, 2011, 5:21 a.m. CST
"comic book sensibility = something akin to Burton's original Batman"
by AnalFissure
Comic book sensibility = mind-numbingly shit, then?
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this is actually the tumbler transformed into a flying machine? Kinda of like the way the Batpod emerged from the tumbler in TDK. It does look a lot like a flying tumbler, really like it, can't wait to see it in action in the final film. So far I'm really loving everything that I've seen so far from this film apart from Catwoman not looking like Catwoman. Still I'm hopeful that come next July she'll sport something on her head that identifies her as being the iconic Catwoman. These days a girl in a skintight black suit alone could be any generic movie heroine, ie Trinity from the Matrix, Black Widow, Kate Beckinsale from the Underworld movies! These characters are not iconic in the way Catwoman is and I hate the fact that I sound like a whinging fanboy here but for a character such as this she needs to look the part. The suit itself looks great though it just needs that all important final touch of the cat ears!
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Aug. 13, 2011, 5:47 a.m. CST
what exactly do we know now? what's spoiled?
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
I, personally, know that the movie is gonna suck. I know that Bane is a lightweight pussy, and Catwoman looks like a chick outta the Matrix, not a comic book. 2 of the big set pieces have been spoiled. When I see the cops fighting Banes henchmen on those steps I'll only be able to think about the asshats trashing TDK in that particular talkback. Talk about taking you outta the movie!
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I love it personally.
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the original argument was in first hand.
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Either they're shooting using 'Day for Night' lenses (which i doubt) or Bane and co. are wreaking havoc during the day to force Batman out off his normal schedule. In just about every incarnation (except the Adam West TV show) Batman mostly operates at night... Veerrrry interesting.
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aMirite or amirite? The Apache chopper cockpit and thefuselage of a Harrier jump jet. I love that design, so good to see it again.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST
Its more of a Bat Osprey, similar to the ones from Stand Alone Complex.
by the Green Gargantua
And I agree that it will come from the new black Tumbler.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST
The camo Tumblers are stolen by Bane from Wayne tech
by the Green Gargantua
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The only thing that bother me about a Bat-copter is the same thing that bothered me a little about the other Bat-vehicles in Nolan's movies so far - they're highly specialized pieces of high-tech machinery that would probably take a lot of training to drive properly. A high-tech helicopter even more so. When did Bruce get his pilot's license? Or will he be in the cockpit controlling this thing with a Wiimote?
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bungvoid into my lexicon.
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where's the problem? in TDK he came out in the day to find Joker during the funeral of the comissioner.
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Is she fuckable? Of course. Is she pretty? Sure. But she's not sexy...sexy is someone you'd punch your grandmother in order to fuck. Sexy is someone you'd scale a mountain in order to be able to taste their pussy juice or something. Hathaway is far from this...she's just a pretty girl you'd try to fuck at the local bar on friday night, nothing more.
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That guy should be in every movie. XD
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But I agree, she isn't the right kind of sexy for how I see Catwoman. I think you need someone a little more exotic and who just oozes a kind of primitive sexiness, like Angelie Jolie or Sophia Loren did. <p> Hathaway would make a good Julie Madison/Portia Storme IMO.
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a334952/the-dark-knight-rises-batwing-revealed-in-new-on-set-video.html
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...more like a VTOL jet, like a Harrier, than a helicopter...
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The "world's greatest detective" has done virtually bugger-all detecting in the two movies so far and relied almost totally on damn gadgets.
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Nolan can learn how to put together a good action sequence. I'm not talking about vehicle chases but the actual fighting scenes were hard to watch. It was down right terrible in Begins and still pretty bad in TDK. The cuts are too quick and it's so zoomed in that I barely see anything. Then you got the Hong Kong fight that was easy to follow as day but the fights looked like shit. That final fight in TDK where Batman ends up stringing up all those SWATs was so muddled, I still have no clue how the fuck he did it. You can say, "he's the Batman! He can do whatever he wants!" but that's not good enough when your average viewer still have no idea how it led up to that point. The only well directed fight scene is still the parking lot scene. It was quick, clear, to the point. The whole crew should invest less time into that stupid Keysi or whatever crap that they claim gives this Batman his own flavor. It looks too lame to hit a guy with your elbows all day. Batman should be quick and swing in from the air with kicks and shit when the thugs don't expect him. He's not a bar brawler.
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Enough with giving minor characters and extras a few lines. Flask, okay he was a true pig who was groomed to be hated. I see his role. The annoying SWAT dude? Keep these fuckers silent. They don't need to have any lines.
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Hathaway is good looking. But flawed. Her features are just awkwars together: too much gum, big teeth, eyes that are too big... Anyways she's not the sexy type for a true Catwoman. I feel like she's still a bit too childish or immature to have that type of sophistication, that classy sort of sexiness.
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What? You didnt' like the tracing fingerprints off a bullet through analysis a fragmented wall and using a computer to regenerate said piece of a wall then biking to an abandoned building to find who the prints belong to only then find a bunch of tied up cops who just happen to be blind folded so Bruce's secret is safe while he so conveniently goes to the ticking windows blind just as the assassination of Gordon takes off while Gordon somehow survives the targeting and goes underground to lure the Joker out, personally being the wingman of the annoying "OH MY GOD" SWATpansy? Detective work? Or pure Bat-realism?
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...bad-ass I kinda would have liked that to be a surprise, but oh well, to late now. Still, completely bad-ass And yeah, the video that brigon posted is much better.
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LITERALLY! PS $20 says the overpass/bridge will be in the midst of CGI COLLAPSING while the Tumbler floats along over top, Harrier-style.. resuming normal form when getting back to solid ground.
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So much for non-lethality. Still, pretty cool looking vehicle.
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Come on guys, you know the only reason the last one was successful was because that homo Ledger died in it.
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I wonder if this Bat-copter is stocked with Bat-Shark repellant like the old one, 'cause this movie looks about ready to jump over one.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST
Paint it red and sell it to Red Lobster for promotional purposes.
by Royston Lodge
It looks like a giant lobster tail.Phantasm
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I'm pretty 'meh' on Hathaway in the role...but I'll wait and see. But off the top of my head, I can't think of who I would cast as Catwoman. Certainly no big name celeb. Drawing a blank.
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Aug. 13, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST
I don't buy that this is a helicopter, I believe it will be a hover jet
by cgih8r
I wonder how much of the vehicle we are not seeing or if that's pretty much it. I'm hoping there will be more to it, it needs more body.
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I'm now in the same league as Subtitles_Off, genderbender and DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD. <p> I'm assuming it is nabster because he seems obsessed with *homos*
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I think it looks weak and poorly designed. whatever the fuck it is. must be a camera stand.
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Aug. 14, 2011, 3:02 a.m. CST
Batcopter? Is that how it's referred to as? You cannot be serious!
by MajorFrontbum
Don't tell me, everything in his possession, has the "Bat" prefix attached to it: Batshower, Bat Pension Plan, Batcoffee mug. I'm guessing when he shoots his load he phones Robyn to tell him he's just had a Bat-gasm about him? Dear Lord, save us from this mediocrity, save us from this ultimate shit!
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Alfred does. Meanwhile, the rest of the Gotham public have the prefix's covered, i guess... has Batman ever actually called it in BB or TDKR? Can't Remember.
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is playing that cd-disk which had a recorded video in which the Penguin is revealing his true plans about GC,and the cd player had the shape of his bat insignia? That bat-cd player was the most retarded thing i have ever seen in a batman movie,and i am taking into account both Adam West's series and Schumacher's movies. jesus a bat-cd player..
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Aug. 14, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST
So it is now possible for trolls to predict how good a movie is by looking at spy pictures?
by Arkhaminmate001
I guess it makes all the basement dwellers feel a sense of unity when they just post boring rants about how shit a movie will be because their 'expert' ability to read a movie from cruddy early production spy pictures better than an actual film maker. I guess that sense of belonging to a group over rides any notion to think for yourselves or have an opinion rather than a tiresome bitchfest. I can't wait to all the flawless movies you masters of the universe will make once you all leave to comfort of your basements. You all are some sad lonely people. I'm a man of my word.
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Aug. 14, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST
Which is why both of Nolans Batman movies have been a huge success. You argument is poor to say the least.
by Arkhaminmate001
If Nolans movies had both been commercial failures you might think he's got it wrong but for the general cinema goer he has obviously got it right. Geek trolls account for about 0.5% of cinema audiences, ergo: no one in hollywood gives a fuck what you think.
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Then they know who Batman is...and of course they aren't telling anyone for a reason. This is all weird stuff, but one thing I do know is NOTHING EVER looks all that good when being filmed or shot by a camera that's not the movie camera for the film. Everything always looks like crap in these shots. I mean, Bane looks thin in the still photos and the fan filmed clips, but the one shot of him in the teaser where he's walking up the steps, he looks pretty badass there. So I'll save my opinions until Christmas when we get a full trailer. But still, this is so wacked out right now I am both nervous and excited. or maybe Bane gets a high dose of that venom shit and gets big at the end when he finally decides it's the right time to bring down Batman. "I like this ship! It's exciting!"
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What all you pussies don't understand is, the US military would kick Batmans ass, and all of you as well. Nothing can stand up to the US MILITARY! NOTHING! We're going to fuck up every country in our path. Oh, yea!
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Plane or no plane,,, The rest of the aircraft will be CGI wrapped around the shot footage.
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Aug. 14, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST
See, it's grounded in realism because it isn't bat-shaped. That's what makes it realistical!
by Subtitles_Off
It's still stupid-looking as all fuck, though. Tell the truth... You think anyone --- even the most ardent Nolan ass-licker --- was really hoping for the third Nolan Bat-movie because, more than anything else, they want more Tumbler? Oooh, this time it will fly! Um, no. I have faith. This is going to be the runt of the litter.
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Hovercrafts are real and very plausible to use in a city between buildings, and at low, street-level altitudes like we've been seeing in the video. A helicopter, at that extremely low-altitude, with the blades, is just not practical or believable at all. It just wouldn't work! But turning a tumbler into a hovercraft? Very plausible...
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Seen the video where they hit a lamp post and wreck the shit out of it? Ouch! Better call Geico! And Catwoman smashed a Batpod into a camera? Man, does anyone know how to drive on the set? lol!
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I think your 'Batman out during the day' comment was directed at my original post, pointing out all the daytime shots with Batman in them. Sorry I'm so late getting back to you on it. Ont he contrary, I don't see a problem with Batman out during the day, I was just pointing out that it hasn't happened much, if at all, in almost every theatrical incarnation since 1989. Batman operates at night, and that's S.O.P. for him. It's easier to hide, easier to avoid detection, easier to strike fear into his opponents. Most bad guys were doing things at night, themselves. In TDK he was out as you mention, but he was not in costume, and so far that's what appears different in TDKR. It's not a big deal, but it's just an interesting choice that Nolan & Co. have made. I like how he's shaking it up.. we'll see.
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But you have to admit it's cool to see an actual REAL "thing" flying (driving) down the street, rather than a CG creation. I'm no Nolan apologist, but I DO respect his negative views on 3D and CG...
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Aug. 14, 2011, 8:49 p.m. CST
It's a giant black Crawfish-shaped Helicopter for our hero
by Monkey_King
profile and rear views reveal that it's inspired by a river crustacean. Add CGI propellor blades/remove movable base and it will look great.
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IM SICK OF THIS MOVIE ALREADY FUCK BANE HE LOOKS LIKE A WHITE TRASH MILITANT MIDGET WITH AN EFFEMINATE MONTY PYTHON VOICE THIS BAT PLANE WHATEVER FLYING CRAB WOULD BE COOLER IF IT WAS ON THE MOVIE SCREEN AND I NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE
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WHAT IS THIS A MATRIX PREQUEL>?
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JOKER FERRY ATTACK OR WHITE TRASH BANE FOOTBALL STADIUM TERRORIST ATTACK BANE? YES
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These movies are more about being realistic "psychologically" and in the way a city works. The tech is still out there, and there's still a lot of the same goofy shit we've seen in every superhero flick. Why does "realism" = quality? I never understood this whole fucking thing. On a pure realism level The Bourne Supremacy is probably one of the most realistic big-budget action films of the last decade. And it's a great fucking film. But all dumbass fanboys could do was bitch about the camerawork. By the way, it's really fucking cool to see something real like this. Something BUILT! I don't know, I find it funny because people bitch about the most random things of the last two Bat films. Bad unrealistic is like smashing a school bus into a bank during rush hour and no pedestrians look over or cars honk and the bus takes zero damage. Doesn't matter unrealistic is "how the fuck does the Tumbler turn into a bike?" IT'S A MOVIE. Suspension of disbelief.
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It should be thank you to the noble men and women of the US armed forces. Nothing is more pure and noble than these people of save our lives everyday. They deserve this, don't you agree?
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Where do the "cg blades" go? And how would it fit down the narrow streets?<P> No, it's some sort of vector-thrust VTOL. And it looks like a goddam lobster.
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Aug. 15, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST
The one thing that I have hated about this series aside from
by Gremlin517
Christian Bale, who I have despised since his crap acting job in Velvet Goldmine--is the visual design of this series. The story has been great, even Bale has been sufferable, but I can't wait 'til we start a new Batman series--so we can have a Batman who is more like the comics--and while less realistic, might be less visually boring... X-
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Bats has used Mechs plenty of times in the books. Like to kick Supes Ass. I'm betting his Tumbler turns into this thing when Bane and his henchmen show up in those camo-Tumblers, Bats is gonna transform his into this thing and have a Tumbler-Slam.
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it should be a taliban extremist, and Robin should be played by a 12 year old female virgin freshly broken
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Fresh off Celebrity Rehab, Sean Young is ready to reprise her audition appearance as Cat Woman!!
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Given that they're going to have to post it out, you'd have thought it would be better to avoid mounting a black thing you want to see atop a black thing you don't. But I know shit all about movie making, so I'll shut up now.
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You seem to get it. I don't understand everyone who bitches about how "this or that isn't realistic" in Nolan's Batman movies, as if they've caught Nolan violating some rules. It's not meant to be realistic, but rather, he wanted to introduce an element of realism that hadn't been utilized before in a batman film. It's Batman.. there's no way to make this film absolutely realistic, and that's not what Nolan has set out to do.
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Seeing it from the top it kinda looks like a back with trapezius muscles and arms forward...with something of a lobster tail. From underneath it looks even more crustacean. Pret-ty sweet.
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A friend lives around the corner from the snow scene. Said it was really hot that day. Weird seeing all that fake snow.
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Some stills and unofficial cameraphone clips appear on the interweb and a group of mongoloid manchildren start screaming they've seen the whole movie already and it's shit anyway. You sad, miserable fucking wankers.
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Batman is a moody fucker and so his gotham city, thats what makes him so great...Burton's films, while fairly silly, captured the essence of Batman and his surroundings wonderfully. Nolan's films just look like some spoiled rich asshole living in Chicago with some tech from the Bond films to play with. I don't like the look of feel of his Bat films... There's no getting around the inherent bizarre weirdness of a man dressing up as a giant bat and the craziness of gotham city...it's a gothic and moody story and Nolan isn't even close. I can't wait til they reboot this...hopefully with David Cronenberg or Fincher or Paul Verhoven.
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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It would end up being greater than, well, anything.
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Aug. 15, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST
Hell, a twisted creep like Cronenberg might just be the right guy to get
by THE_CHOPPAH
Moore involved with a movie adaptation. Cronenberg could "adapt" the Swamp Thing stuff like he "adapted" Naked Lunch, as more of an impressionistic freak out.
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Damn it all!! Anyway, loving the Nolan bat. TDKR will rock. In Nolan I trust. So should you! Bat-harriers and Bat-pods and Catwoman...Oh My!!!
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Aug. 15, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST
THIS VIDEO IS FOR CATWOMAN ASS ON BATPOD FETISHISTS ONLY:
by the Green Gargantua
http://batman-news.com/2011/08/14/the-dark-knight-rises-set-video-gets-up-close-and-personal-with-catwoman/
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magnificent
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FUCK YOU YOU FUCK FUCKER. Tyler Perry would be ASHAMED.
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THIS is an ass.... http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/9/99/99260619_julie-newmar_catwoman-133.jpg Love Ms. Hathaway...but those curvy old school 60's sex pots have sex appeal NO modern broad can summons... Julie Newmar, Ears, Stilettos, and Full Succulent Ass Cheeks FTW
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did you notice her forehead? looks prosthetic. like they really have a small beanie style helmet under her forehead and hair starting at the top of the goggles. but hey, it's stunt work, and real riding. also, there are rumor assumptions that the extra parts on the goggles flip up when not in use to make cat ears.
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Could be the makeup, but she looks a little too manish to me.
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the more I think it will be mediocre at best. I remember not knowing shit about The Dark Knight and it turned out to be one of the best films ever. I hope I am wrong and Nolan isn't strung out on sequels.
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