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Capone has his mind and body wrecked by Joel Edgerton and Tom Hardy in the epic MMA film WARRIOR!!!

Published at: Aug. 12, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST by Capone

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

Although this tale of two brothers that both fight in the same Mixed Martial Arts tournament contains many familiar moments and emotions featured in other sports films (including MIRACLE, which director Gavin O'Connor also helmed), I think I'm safe in saying that you have never seen a film quite like WARRIOR, a work that represents powerful, brutal, thunderous, intimate filmmaking at its very best. This is due to two of the most sweat-and-blood masculine performances I've seen since Stallone first entered the ring as Rocky and changed the world.

Some of you might know Joel Edgerton from his recent roles in the Australian crime dramas THE SQUARE and ANIMAL KINGDOM, but he's probably best know (for better or worse) for playing the young Uncle Owen in the second STAR WARS trilogy. He's going to be hugely famous very soon (he has the lead role in THE THING prequel and about 20 other things lined up after that), but WARRIOR is something entirely different for him. It's a chance for him to use his full physical being playing Brendan Conlon, a Philadelphia-area high school teacher, husband to Tess (Jennifer Morrison), and father to two young girls. He's strapped for cash and decides to drive to a local strip club to take part in an amateur MMA competition in the club's parking lot. He absolutely decimates the reigning champion, takes home his money, and is promptly suspended without pay when the fight hits YouTube. His only course of action is to throw himself back into MMA fighting and training full time and get good enough to enter a big competition in Atlantic City. Without that money, he loses his house, so his motivation is clear.

But the film also tells us the story of Tommy Riordan (using his mother's maiden name and played by BRONSON and INCEPTION star Tom Hardy), who seems to emerge from the thin Pittsburgh air at the front door of his father Paddy (Nick Nolte), a three-year-sober old man, who has spent much of his sobriety trying to win back the love and forgiveness of his two sons. Tommy has clearly suffered a lifetime of neglect and anguish because of this man, but he needs something from his father--a trainer to help him get ready for the same contest. He has no interest in letting this or any person get under his skin emotionally, and when you experience Hardy's raw, naturalistic performance, you will immediately begin to fear him.

If any or all of this sounds formulaic, trust me when I saw it doesn't come across that way. Director O'Connor (who also made 1999's splendid TUMBLEWEEDS and the more recent PRIDE AND GLORY) has this unyielding passion to keep this movie as much about the characters and the deep-seated pain Tommy and Brendan feel that has led them to this fight and this place in their respective lives. WARRIOR is a film that is designed to drain you emotionally as well as physically. In all the best ways, it will leave you a crumbling husk of a human being when its done with you. And the details about their history and animosity toward each other are revealed slowly, like an agonizing breached birth. There's something about taking sides when their parents split up, a mother with cancer, and Tommy's going to war in the Middle East.

Both men have very real reasons for wanting that prize money, to the point where we're not exactly sure who to root for when their inevitable in-the-ring clash happens. There are so many layers and intricacies and psychological depths to plumb with WARRIOR that the temptation is to talk to much about it here. I'll try to avoid doing that, but I will say that perhaps the biggest shock about the film is how a full half of it is devoted strictly to full-length MMA battles. I was genuinely impressed with how O'Connor and his actors school us on the strategies of preparing and fighting. I've never seen competitive MMA before, but watching all of the competitors in this contest go against each other, I have a new-found respect for the sport.

And the way the brothers fight could not be more different. Brendan is more thoughtful, he paces himself, he allows his enemy to almost beat himself before going in for the win. Tommy is a wrecking ball; he enters the ring no music or hoopla; commits unspeakable acts of violence; and then leaves the ring before the ref even officially declares him the winner. He's a force of nature meshed with an rabid animal that only cares about tearing your face off. He's not evil, but if he were, you'd never leave the house without wearing a suit of armor. I'm so glad between the both of them, these great actors have about a billion movies coming out in the next year or so.

And I don't mean to leave out poor Nick Nolte, who is absolutely fantastic in this return-to-form role as a pathetic old man just trying to salvage what he can of his family. He shows up on Brendan's doorstep desperate to see his granddaughters and has the door slammed in his face. There is exactly zero percent sentimentality in WARRIOR, and I should have said that in the first sentence O'Connor and his team are not interested in wrapping things up neatly with everyone friends again. Don't expect that, but also don't assume you won't cry just because the film refuses to play the role of tearjerker. And the first person to say this movie sounds like THE FIGHTER gets a knee to the gut. The two films could not be more different; this one is actually better.

In the end, this is a film about family and fighting, and it succeeds on both levels to absolute pull us in and not let go until we're left bruised and bloody. The fight scenes are truly epic (as is the running time at about two hours, 20 minutes), and they are shot and executed so convincingly, you can smell the sweat, feel the heat of each punch, and start to choke out when one fighter puts a death grip on another. I think I saw stars more than once. What I've told you about WARRIOR has only scratched the surface of why its so thoroughly soul-enriching in its worthiness and impressiveness. This is truly one of the best films I've seen all year, and to think otherwise means you deserve as ass whopping of apocalyptic proportions, and I know just the guys to give it to you.

-- Capone
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  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    1st and Irish!

    by Valenni

    Hurrah!!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    2nd... and IRASH!

    by SeXX ED

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST

    2nd... and IRISH!

    by SeXX ED

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST

    2nd... and IRISH!

    by SeXX ED

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:07 a.m. CST

    But really....

    by SeXX ED

    ... does Tom Hardy enter the ring to RuPaul's SUPERMODEL?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Cuz really...

    by SeXX ED

    ... Shinzon be overcompensatin' with that tough guy thang, as of late.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Def

    by BERSERKR

    Lookin forward to this one.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:15 a.m. CST

    it will leave you a crumbling husk of a human being

    by CherryValance

    Great. Sign me up. lol When I first saw the trailer, I hadn't even heard about it before but it instantly struck me as something that was going to be better than it looked on the surface. I couldn't care less about that sport. I've never watched it. But you could tell that it was going to be full of human complications. Sounds like it is. I loved MIRACLE too, so it looks like I'll definitely be seeing it. With the fanbase for the sport and the timely background story, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a big hit.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Tom Hardy!

    by Warren

    I swear in every single movie he is in he doesn't look the same as the previous. I wouldn't of even known Tom Hardy was in this until you said his name in the review!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Great film!

    by Hudson Cock

    Saw it at a screening weeks ago. Didn't feel the 2 1/2 hours at all. The fights were great, as was the acting. Tom Hardy is a monster and will be perfect as Bane in TDKR.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:50 a.m. CST

    So pleased

    by DannyOcean01

    Trailer looked promising, but had a distinct whiff of seen it all before sentimentality. Great to read that's not true. That moment on the beach had a definite Brando feel from Hardy.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST

    I think of Hardy as a Channing Tatum trying to be Christian Bale

    by chien_sale

    alright we don't buy any of your character-actor, physically-changing chameleon. it doesn't mean because you change shapes that you're good, dude

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:35 a.m. CST

    I'm in!

    by RobFromBackEast

    Delighted it's getting great buzz. The UFC and MMA might have some idiot fans, but it's a great organisation and sport. Also, Bryan Callen playing Joe Rogan I have to see

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Yeah Joel Edgerton is class.

    by highfunctioningsociopath

    Looks like things are starting to going his way. Hardy too of course - I've seen Bronson.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6 a.m. CST

    Capone, if you liked this film...

    by niven

    ...and you are looking for something similar. Try Ryoo Seung-wan's Crying Fist. Starring Oldboy's Choi Min-sik; basically a parallel story of two down on their luck people building up towards a boxing championship and a lot of money, both need it for legit reasons and it focuses more on the characters and emotionality of the situation rather than being a boxing film. Warrior sounds A LOT like it, especially it being an exhaustive barrage on the mind and body. Check it out, well worth it.

  • That's like comparing apples and oranges! Besides, everybody knows apples are way better!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:49 a.m. CST

    16th and Scottish

    by masteryoda007

    What the fuck?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Even though the "sport" is horrible this movie looks amazing...

    by Andrew Coleman

    I remember a decade ago or so everyone was saying this sport was going to eclipse football... Right. Now it mainly seems the target audience is drunks and drop out college guys. UFC is just boring. Two dudes wrestling around on the ground... I'll watch Bert and Ernie for that shit if you know what I mean... Still this movie looks great. Miracle is one of the best sports movies ever. I also like the idea of watching a fighting movie where you like both sides and you don't know who to cheer for. That actually leaves you on the edge of your seat. It's easy when you have one guy you want to win... In movies it's either: A. Good guy wins or B. Good guy looses but learns a lesson. Here there is no good guy and bad guy so it throws those concepts out the window. Looking forward to it.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Capone, thanks for the review

    by Jase Hicks

    I watched a Screening for this film on Tuesday. I really enjoyed it. I train MMA here in Dallas, and I was pleasantly surprised at the homework that was done on the preparation and detail on the training and the fights. The drama in the film was well done, there were only a moment or two that was the usual cliche's in drama. Thanks again, I sent it on to some of the people who had a hand in making this film.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST

    It's about time we got a good MMA movie!

    by Shadow Warrior

    And fuck the MMA haters. UFC can be boring sometimes because the rules favor wrestlers, which surprise surprise the US has lots of.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Mma the choice of sport for rednecks and hicks

    by Nabster

    Hate that shit. It's truly horrible.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    really?

    by the new transported man

    The trailer makes it look like floating piece of shit.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Nabster, I'm offended. Pro wrestling is the sport of hicks!

    by impossibledreamers

    And as a pro wrestling fan, that iritates me that you'd steal that away!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    I'm an IT professional

    by Shadow Warrior

    and an MMA fan. Never been to prison. Never been gay. You ignorant fucktards bash it without understanding it. There is a lot of technicality in it, it's not just 2 men swinging or wrestling. Even if you break it up into its different parts, grappling, clinching, standing striking, each part has loads of technicality. This is where you see the best fighters in the world. Not the best boxer, or the best kickboxer, or the best wrestler, or the best jits guy. The best FIGHTERS.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    genderbender

    by torontoxic

    Your shrink called. He says you have AIDS. Oh and PLEASE tell any MMA fighter he's gay. But tell him to put gloves on first before he beats your head in so he doesn't get your previously mentioned AIDS. Gay people are so sad. I know I know everyone is equal and we're all the same but shut the fuck up or that will change. People only put up with so much shit before showing you why you shouldn't push your luck, fairies.

  • Basically MMA is human cock fighting. The kind of people that go and watch to roosters fight to the death are the exact kind of people that like MMA. It's actually been proven by surveys and studies. And boxing will always be better than MMA. When has there ever been a socially or historically important MMA fight? Never, that's when.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Lets not start sucking off Joel Edgerton just yet.

    by MacReady452

    Dude is on my shit list for THE THING remake. I will reserve judgment. If the remake is good.......I MIGHT suck him off. God. I sound like an MMA fan now.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    why would someone's shrink know they have AIDS?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Its not like they do bloodwork and give you physicals.. Its like I'm playing cards with my brother's kids or something.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST

    genderbender, you're such a little attention grabber.

    by stu_pickles

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    @genderbender

    by Nabster

    According to sports physicains and sports journalists, who were asked which sport is the most physically demanding has the most well conditioned athletes, the majority agreed it was definitely boxing. Boxers have to strong and well conditioned, and last 12 rounds. While, MMA gas extremely quickly, they're just big roided out dudes. I've seen MMA once or twice, and it's not my thing. No majesty, or flair. It's just two homos trying to destroy each other.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    CHOPPAH

    by MacReady452

    Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    if boxing is the sweet science

    by MacReady452

    MMA is two guys licking syrup off of each other.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Mac?!

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I didn't know you was back in town.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    "genderbender" - my interpretation:

    by Ray Gamma

    I think "genderbender" is a homophobe who is trolling this site in the guise of an annoying militant gay, in order to stir up anti-gay feeling. And that's the opinion of a straight guy.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I'm a gay artist...

    by blackwood

    and an MMA fan. Not to give credence to gbend's (welcome back!) 'Just For Gays' theory, but yeah, I love MMA -- and only part of it is the animalistic, inherently sensual physicality of The Aggressive Man. I honestly got into UFC because of the reality show, and the Forrest Griffin versus Stephan Bonnar fight that capped that first season. Probably remains the best fight I've ever seen -- both fighters just banging it the hell out, evenly matched, great sportsmen about it. I may have tuned in for half-naked dudes in great shape hugging each other and rolling around, but the sport -- the variety of styles, the techniques, the physical intelligence required -- easily became more interesting (well... AS interesting, at least), than prurient concerns. It's a sport where you can rarely just beast it out -- you have to be smart, you have to adapt, you have to balance your physical prowess with an impressive physical intelligence to get anywhere. And that there is blood -- there is something to that. It's ineffable. Something primal, something dark, something inescapable about it that is very, very satisfying. There are two 'sports' I love to spectate -- dance and fighting. I think both are perfect expressions of human physical capacity -- for damage, for art; power, the human capacity for flight. Something goes on in my chemistry. It summons me. Anyway. I hadn't even heard of this film until this review, so thanks, Capone. MMA is the best, most dynamic, most interesting sport going.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I went back in the lab and the gym and the library to up my game 300%

    by MacReady452

    After you and D.Vader got hammered (wait..I got hammered then too) I fell into a Four Loko fueled fugue state. Then I returned to find an altered shit-scape that I barely recognized and therefore was reluctant to participate in. I knew I would return one day, if for no other reason than to let Cobra Kai know that I miss his musk.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    I am laughing right now...

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    ...because there are a couple of people on this TB who are coming off like total fucking idiots.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST

    shadow warrior

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    You're cool, though. Just one question for you: Sherdog or the UG? Choose wisely.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    am I coming off that way general?

    by MacReady452

    If not.... ....then people have gotten the wrong impression.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    The Fighter was pretty underwhelming...

    by jimmy_009

    Christian Bale was the only bright spot in that movie. The rest was by the books and not particularly new or interesting. The fights didn't seem particularly intense either. MMA is fresh territory and has more layers in terms of strategy and intensity, plus this cast is fantastic. I'm really looking forward to this one.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:14 a.m. CST

    genderbender, I'm glad you've found a forum...

    by jimmy_009

    ...with which to work out your issues. Let out the hurt. Let it out.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    macready

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    To answer your question, yes, but not as much as others. Just so you know, though, MMA fighting is exponentially more technical and complex than the sweet science, because MMA fighters need to know how to box with technique, in addition to half a dozen other things, all of which are as technical, if not more technical, than boxing. Jiu-jitsu alone, which is a very significant aspect of any top level MMA fighter's training, is much more complex and technical than boxing.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:24 a.m. CST

    oh good

    by MacReady452

    sounds like I am in the "fucking idiot" category just shy of "total fucking idiot". It is good to have goals.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST

    jimmy

    by MacReady452

    THE FIGHTER is a true story. It can't be "by the book" cause it really happened. I think. Semantic arguments are so MMA/gay.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    generaljackcosmo

    by Shadow Warrior

    mmaweekly dude

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    nabster, MMA is a young sport

    by Shadow Warrior

    that's why there hasn't been too many historical match-ups yet, though fans might consider Sakuraba vs Royce Gracie, Fedor vs CroCop, and GSP vs BJ. The other dudes I know who are casual fans are not douchebags or trouble-makers or losers at all. They are professionals and decent people. And none of them are gay. No matter how much I try to hype MMA to a gay friend of mine he just doesn't care for it.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I think Genderbender is exposing homophobia

    by D.Vader

    In the classic Borat/Bruno style.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Or maybe that was GenderBlender instead

    by D.Vader

    I keep getting them confused.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Vades...you aren't confused

    by MacReady452

    it's the same insufferable psychotic.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure it's two people.

    by blackwood

    Or at least, two personalities. gblends is more earnest and seeks community to preach to and self-destruct against. gbends is more self-satisfied and fuck you about it. Bends is the better troll; Blends is the sadder one.

  • the rest are dogshit

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    No one's cares that Gender is gay...

    by jimmy_009

    ...they're commenting on him because he acts so weird and militant, like he has strange emotional problems and he things this is the place to handle them. But you're right, this being the Internet there's a great chance he's just another phoney instead of being borderline crazy. Who even cares anymore?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Saw the previews

    by Nuts

    Didn't know what to think. All I know is that Tom Hardy put on some serious size for the role. Almost didn't recognize him. So thankful the movie didn't turn out to be ass.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    All right. Let's get down to brass tacks.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    GenderBLENDER was banned, but genderBENDER keeps going. I think I'm convinced it's the same person doing two slightly different shticks to foment rage, confusion, apathy and strange sexual desires among talkbackers. To that, CHOPPAH says: Brava.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Bronson

    by Reckoner

    I was curious about Tom Hardy so I netflixed Bronson a couple of weeks ago and was astonished at how amazingly talented Tom Hardy is. He was a terrifying monster in Bronson, and convincingly so. He is a chameleon, hardly recognizable from one role to the next. He was a brutish monster in Bronson, a suave, well-dressed, well-spoken lad in Inception. This guy has some serious range. Very exciting to see him get some great roles. This trailer looks good for Warrior.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    SEXX ED,

    by aegri_mentis

    Your comments about Hardy and the "tough guy thing"...Are you making a comment abut Hardy's sexuality? Overcompensating? Hardy has openly admitted dabbling in bisexuality in the past. He's not tried to hide it or "overcompensate" for it. Secondly, your screen name is "sexx ed", and you think Hardy, who is a legitimate tough guy, is overcompensating?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy

    by Chorlton01

    If you want to see his acting range, check out a mini-series he did called The Take. It was one of those break out roles where you just knew he was gonna be Hollywood A List in a few years.

  • has now been assigned a sexual orientation by GenderBender. Hilarious. Martial arts that have been created and utilized for thousands of years, in numerous regions across the globe are suddenly seen as a sexual motif? The virtues of hard work, physical and mental discipline, stamina, focus, strategy and improvisation, timing and technique are relegated to a question of unconsummated sexuality to attack the homophobic mores of Western Culture? Are the female MMA fighters all closeted bull dykes or bois? It's sad that someone who knows nothing about the arts or culture (only through a sad, externalized self-hating lens of hypersensitive sexual confusion and one-sided, gender based favouritism) can make baseless allegations and beg for the attention of the maddening crowd. What's ironic is that while GenderBender rails against the male fanboys for their misogyny and racism, many geeks usually dismiss athleticism as 'unintelligent and anti-intellectual' which probably stems from their primary school, experience. But, some of the worlds great athletes were also very bright people (The Greek philosopher Pythagoras was among them). With GenderBender's long post on MMA, (s)he has become that fanboi (s)he vehemently reviles.

  • I still think that, even after reading this review.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I know nothing about MMA

    by Lucidz

    And can't tell you even one fight. I think a guy named Silva fought someone else? LIke one was an old dude and one was a young dude?? Whatever. I also don't know anything about boxing. But could name off a ton of fighters and famous fights... Take that as you will as far as MMA is concerned.

  • home videos (sent to me by Nordling for some fukkin' reason; dude, I get it, we're pals now, but seriously?) of Faraci and Beaks fighting over who gets to use the fleshlight next.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    MMA is not new - it as actually existed for centuries.

    by Continentalop

    Combat sports that allowed you to both strike and grapple have existed since ancient Greece. It was called Pancration. And it even existed in the 17th Century - it was just called boxing back then (originally boxing allowed for anything goes - Figg's Fighting). Hell, Rough & Tumble existed in the American Frontier and that led to carny's AT shows, which would let people face people in No Hold's Barred matches (which in turn went south and became Vale Tudos).

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    And the reason there is so much grappling and wrestling in MMA

    by Continentalop

    Is because it fucking works. Sorry, but it has been proven time and again that grapplers usually win fights - fuck, just go back to the 1900's when they did all those mixed fights and the majority of the time the wrestler beat the shit out of the boxer. But I guess it is more important to look cool than to do something that actually works and will help you win. Yep, image is everything. No wonder this country is going to shit.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    lucidz, name four boxers from the last ten years

    by Continentalop

    Without naming the Kitschkos, Floyd or Manny. And I bet you've heard of Brock Lesnar, Kimbo Slice and Herschell Walker.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    nabster, do you know anything about combat sports?

    by Continentalop

    Or do you just like talking out of your ass?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    continentalop

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    nabster is an expert on the subject of MMA, as is evidenced by his insightful posts and the revelation that he has watched it "once or twice".

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    continentalop speaks TRUTH

    by blakindigo

    Read and learn, twats.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Conti, come on now. I've heard of those guys because

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    1. Kimbo was a web sensation first. 2. Brock Lesnar was a 'superstar' in that true hotbed of repressed homosexuality (forget what genderblender says), the WWE. 3. Hershell Walker was the centerpiece of one of the most lopsided trades in NFL history, giving us the Cowboys 'dynasty' of the early 1990s. Man, fuck that trade!

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Thanks blakindigo

    by Continentalop

    Just merely trying to follow your example of putting forth intelligent post.

  • It's not just a bunch of Ed Hardy-attired roidhead Jersey Shore douches watching it. MMA has an intense and broad following in the corridors of corporate and political power. The favorite sport of Wall Street, with its Harvard MBAs and Patrick Bateman-esque posh lifestyles, is no longer golf or racketball. It's MMA. Boxing is a bloated and bland copy of its former glory.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 4:56 p.m. CST

    True Chop

    by Continentalop

    But I was just pointing out he obviously had heard of some MMA fighters (sure it was a technicality). And like I said, besides the top 4-5 names in boxing, how many people can name a professional boxer nowadays? Hell, I think after you get out of the top 4-5 boxers, the next 10 most famous names in combat sports are probably MMA fighters (Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre, Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, Rampage Jackson, & Fedor Emelianenko all have more name recognition than most boxers). Oh, and Chop, fuck you for bringing up that God damn trade. Fucking ViQueens.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    I love boxing choppah

    by Continentalop

    And never got the animosity that exist between the two sports. I think you can be a fan of more than one combat sport, especially when each one compliments the other. At the turn of the 20th century, prizefighting wasn't just used to describe boxing but also pro wrestling (when it was mostly shoot - real - even if it was often fixed). Hell, Ring magazine originally covered both Boxing and Pro Wrestling, and it wasn't looked down to be a fan of both combat sports. And in ancient Greece someone could like both Pancration (All-Power), Pug (boxing) and Pale (wrestling). But not nowadays, for some reason, you can can only like one or the other.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    I could never really get into MMA.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Then again, I never watched it with any enthusiasts, so who knows? Maybe I'll learn to like it.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Conti, yeah.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Boxing has broken my heart in recent years, but nothing beats a truly great fisticuffs contest. It can be beautiful to behold. Mostly it's fucking boring these days, though. I say we go back to bareknuckles to liven shit up. And, in the words of Ivan Drago, if they die, they die.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    bareknuckles is actually safer

    by Continentalop

    And less knockouts. No, if really want to make boxing exciting go back to the rules they had when James Figg became the first champion. Three rounds where you switch between sword, cudgel and no rules, anything goes hand-to-hand fighting (including groin shots, eye gouging, hair pulling, biting and rending).

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    By rending, do you mean fish-hooking?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I once knew a broad who insisted that I fish-hook her while pounding away at her bung pit. She was my third wife.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    groin shots, eye gouging, hair pulling biting and rending?

    by blakindigo

    She sounds like fun…

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST

    I might have dated your ex once

    by Continentalop

    Did she also like to be choked? And by rending I mean tearing off flesh or poking your fingers in cuts to widen them even more (fish hooking included in that).

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    She loved being choked.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Mostly by Li'l CHOPPAH.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    The fish hooks!! Dammit, I HATED those things…

    by blakindigo

    And, she wanted me to rub the lotion on it's skin… But, she sure liked the In and Out Burger…

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    In and Out is good.

    by Continentalop

    Great. Now I am hungry.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    continentalop

    by blakindigo

    What about people like Gene Labell or Frank Gotch — would they be considered MMA fighters?

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Citizen_Insane

    by Weresmurf77

    Calling Sam Worthington a poor mans Joel Edgerton, such truer words have never been spoken. Edgerton embodies true Australian talent while Worthington is just Australian mediocrity at best. It's the whole Guy Pearce vs Russel Crowe debate all over again. Pearce DECIMATES Crowe in talent, yet people go wet in the panties for Crowe for reasons unknown over Pearce at the boxoffice...

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    blakindigo

    by Continentalop

    Technically I think they could be considered. Gene LeBell was in a mixed fight when he beat boxer Milo Savage. And Frank Gotch was supposedly involved in some Rough & Tumble fights when he was in Alaska, and he also boxed. But I still think of them mostly as grapplers.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Now Edward William Barton-Wright

    by Continentalop

    He was a mixed martial artist.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    MYPHDISDOOM...

    by johnnyrandom

    ...showing your ignorance with that comment.

  • You know what really works? A long bow. An archer would kick all their asses. That doesn't mean I like watching archery. Mma is a classless white trash sport like monster truck driving. Studies have proven this. And not all MMA fighter and fans are homos, but a lot are, homos are over represented in MMA, it's pretty well known.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    nabster

    by Continentalop

    I don't care if you don't like watching it or even if you find it boring, but to basically insult a sport and its fans because you don't understand it or it makes you feel confused about your own sexuality speaks more about you than the sport of MMA. Stop projecting your own insecurities and ignorance. Homo erotic? Maybe for you, but for most people who have grappled or worked in ground fighting they aren't getting aroused, they are more worried about getting their fucking arm broken, getting choked out or maybe having someone get in position to start beating the shit out of them. Just like how must football fans and players aren't arouse by the sight of big men chasing after another guy to *hug* him and take him to the ground (or *tackle* if you want to call it that) or seeing the QB put his hands next to the centers nutsack. Unless your name is nabster, in that case it is probably another *gay* sport. And you say that both white trash and gays are over-represented by MMA (pretty wide spectrum of fans apparently), but guess who is also over-represented? Soldiers and marines. You know, guys who actually depend on being able to fight for a living and survive. The entire point of a combat sport is to prepare someone for combat, and in that regard MMA is the closest thing to an actual street fight/field test. Or maybe the Army should get rid of their yearly MMA tournament, the All-Army Combatives Tournament, because you know, despite how often soldiers bring up how useful it is and has saved their lives, it looks, you know, *gay.*

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Crisis in American acting

    by Keith

    I was listening to some director or other on a podcast a few weeks ago who was asked why there were so many Brits (and Australians) being cast in American roles. His answer was that there simply aren't enough technically good American actors anymore. Very few of them have done proper stage work, have learned how to control timing and breathing etc. He noted than even when working with John Malkovich, he was surprised to find that the guy had never learned a whole bunch of techniques that most British actors learn as standard. He said that this was a relatively recently thing - perhaps the last two decades - and is getting worse.

  • Aug. 12, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    AEGRI MENTIS

    by SeXX ED

    Your mama.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Nabster

    So you admit MMA is the sport of homos and white trash? Okay good. And soldiers are over-represented in MMA? How are you so sure? And you say that like its a good thing. So a bunch of frat boys with guns, who like to murder and rape for sport like to watch human cock fighting? Are we supposed to be surprised? Who cares if a group of ignorant uneducated rednecks who kill for a living because they are too dumb to do anything else, or because they get their jollies from killing civilians, watch some dumb hick sport?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    misterdarcy...

    by workshed

    It's called the Alexander Technique, luvvie darling. String through the top of the head etc. Utter bollocks... the fact is that American actors just don't have the emotional range. Or intelligence. They're too busy networking and, having been in a LA for three months and seen in first hand, that's a cold fuckin business; turns you into an automaton (see Tom Cruise, Nic Cage). Whereas British actors (like my ex-flatmate Stuart Wolfenden - Herbie in Dead Man's Shoes) don't give a fuck. They work with unemployed kids in places like Salford and make vital improvised theatre reflecting their own lives, experiences and emotions. It's real. Watch 'Oranges and Sunshine' and you'll see the difference. Hollywood could and should access this talent - if only the stupid greedy casting agents stopped being starfuckers. I met Mexicans working in Hollywood petrol filling stations with more charisma in the lines around their eyes than any A-listers with their pampered fucking faces and perfect teeth. THAT'S IT!!! STOP STRAIGHTENING/WHITENING YOUR FUCKING TEETH. Scrape and a polish should do the trick (unless you're doing a Morgan Fairchild biopic!)

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I love when idiots say "Studies prove..." or "Studies show..."

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    And then fail to link to the studies themselves. It's retard analysis. Is there a fair share of ignorant, uneducated, and trashy fans of MMA out there? Of course, just like any other combat sport, or contact sport for that matter. You also have your fair share of educated, sophisticated fans. First of all, the fighters themselves tend to be better educated because they went to college and wrestled, or for the mere fact that studying MMA or Brazilian Jiu-jitsu is an expensive hobby. Don't be an ignorant ass.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Nabster

    by Continentalop

    First off, you're an asshole. Second off, you're an asshole AND an idiot. <p> Yeah, like you're smarter and better educated than MMA Fighters Tim Kennedy and Brian Stann. Tim Kennedy is a US Army SF Operator and Brian Stann is a Captain in the USMC and a graduate from the US Navy Academy. I bet you right now they are better educated than you, they speak more languages than you and know a shit more about the world than some self-important keyboard jockey who has never done anything of importance once in his insignificant life. <P> And you missed my point about why soldiers and marines are into MMA, you idiot. The entire point of combat sports is to simulate combat and prepare someone for a fight, and if actual people in the military use it and appreciate it because it has real world applications, I think that speaks volumes about the sport. Of course you don't care if something has real world applications and can be used in the real world scenario since you never leave your basement; you'd also be too worried about people thinking your *gay* than study something that could actually be used in self-defense or get you in shape. Apparently heterosexuality is defined by you as man-boobs and slapping like a girl. <p> Once again, you don't like the sport, fine. But to speak shit about MMA and people in the armed services says way more about you than them. It says you're an ignorant idiot and an asshole.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Don't get mad at Nabster

    by StoryFirst

    He is basically making things up because he does not know the truth. He mentions studies...really? Studies? Which? Link them to us please. Nonsense. He is uneducated and obviously lacking in intelligence and understanding of the noble art of combat. MMA is now a thriving industry, whilst Boxing slowly dies and becomes a fringe sport. MMA has viewership the world over. Bernard Hopkins, Pacquio, Freddy Roach (who trains MMA fighters), David Haye and a whole host of other boxers respect MMA fighters. But what do you care? You are intolerant and narrow minded. You are the disease that afflicts society. You are the negativity that provides no strength to your country. You are a cancer to success and growth, with all your moaning and criticising and insulting...and you infect us with that disease. Here is a simple fact for you: Boxing is dead. People don't care for it. MMA is growing. It is only 20 years old in its current state, compared to 100 years of boxing...but I can guarantee you, MMA will become massive as the years progress. And your opinion, quite frankly, will not matter. As for your disgusting snobbery towards some of its fans. You should be ashamed of yourself for insulting your country men and women who pour their dollars into a sport whose success will help your country's economy. Who are you? What makes you better than someone else? What have you done to make you better than the 'hicks'? Eh? Who the hell are you to troll on MMA and its fans? Seriously...what makes you better?

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Nabster, come on man

    by D.Vader

    Stop making yourself look like such a fool. You've done enough already. Take your licks and just disappear. The only people who would think there's anything homoerotic about this would be someone who once entertained the idea of getting aroused by it. And then, feeling shamed by it, extrapolated that feeling and foolishly applied it to everyone else.

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Seriously, Nabster?

    by spiderinside

    Maybe in middle-america alot of MMA fans are white-trash, but have you ever actually watched a match? At least half of the spectators are latino or black, and if a latino is fighting, it's more like 90% of the spectators. As for everyone being gay, well, I can't prove that one way or the other (and neither can you or anyone else), but I'd sure like to see your sources on these "studies".

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Pride and Glory; Nolte; Norton

    by ragingfluff

    Pride and Glory. Good film. Well acted. Not brilliant or anything, but still, very good ... Unfortunately, probably the reason why 'Blue Bloods' exists on CBS. Nolte was supposed to be in Pride and Glory and did tons of research for the role and then had to drop out because he injured himself or something. They got Jon Voight instead. I'm sure Nolte is in MIRACLE because he owes O'Connor If you see it on DVD, be sure to watch the making of doc. on the special features which is almost as long as the film, and is probably better than the film, and it goes right thru' the script process, casting, rehearsals, research, production, editing, the works ... fascinating behind the scenes look at the film industry, especially as it's a gritty film that they shot in some rather gritty neighbourhoods so it's not like watching the making of featurette of a Penny Marshall film (if you know what I mean) .. also, if you didn't already think Ed Norton was a prima donna, you will after watching the documentary (seriously, Hoffman on the set of MARATHON MAN wasn't this irksome)

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Nabster

    be too worried about people thinking your *gay* than study

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Nabster

    be too worried about people thinking your *gay* than study

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Nabster

    be too worried about people thinking your *gay* than study

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Nabster

    be too worried about people thinking your *gay* than study It's you're, not your you dumb fuck. And it's ironic you try to insult another when you just proved YOU'RE dumber than a 10 year old girl, you dumb hick. And what the hell are you on about? Making up arguments in your head when they are completely irrelevant. But then again, you've already proved how dim witted you are so no surprise. And soldiers, AKA white trash too dumb to do anything else in life, are into the trashiest cheapest sport on the planet, MMA? Big fucking surprise. American soldier are LITERALLY RAPISTS, and MURDERS. Did you know according to VA stats, 1/3 of military women are raped, and thats not even counting unreported. They're just a bunch of frat boys who kill and rape for their jollies, FACT. But you're too ignorant and dumb to know any of this, because you blindly jack off to bunch of white hicks who like to hunt humans in ILLEGAL wars and occupations. And to all you retards saying boxing is dead, and that MMA will take over the planet. You're idiots. Simple numbers prove boxing is still bigger than MMA. Yes, MMA has made strides, but to suggest it's going to be a global phenomena is delusional. And some of you dipshits, don't appear to be able to think. Obviously not EVERY MMA fan is an inbred redneck, who jacks of the military like Continentalop, but hicks definitely are over represented in the sport, and they flat out love it, just like they love monster trucks. Now this doesn't discredit the sport automatically, but its a good start. And Continentalop, stop embarrassing yourself, and learn the difference between your and you're, it'll surprise a dumb hick like you, that they're two DIFFERENT WORDS.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Nabster

    by Lost Jarv

    A quick word to the grammar fascist: If you're going to follow this line, then for your own sake make sure you don't make any spelling/ grammar mistakes. The following are all easily spotted mistakes from your post: 1)LITERALLY does not mean what you think it does. Also, in the interests of accuracy, I doubt that every single serviceman has raped someone. 2) Murders= verb. To kill unlawfully. You mean "Murderers". For instance, you murder your mother, which makes you a murderer. Make sense? 3) Never start a sentence with "and". That is terrible syntax. 4)"jacks of": I think you are looking for "Jacks off". What you've written is "Jacks of" Jacks of what? Two Jacks of Diamonds? Doesn't make sense. 5)"They're just a bunch of frat boys who kill and rape for their jollies, FACT". Nope. I think you'll find that is both factually inaccurate and just an opinion. I suggest you learn the difference. I can keep doing this with that drivel you just posted for hours, but I SUGGEST that you stick your grammar troll hat back in its box, and attempt some wit or argument. Failing that, of course, you could just fuck off.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    continentalop, LostJarv, spiderinside, and william_faulkner

    by blakindigo

    The beer/spirits/wine is on me…

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Lost jarv, you don't even know the meaning of grammar you idiot

    by Nabster

    Grammar fascist? You're and your are TWO DIFFERENT WORDS, with DIFFERENT MEANINGS. It has nothing to do with GRAMMAR you dumb fuck. I didn't read anything beyond that first line, because you discredited yourself by not even understanding the meaning of a simple word, you ignorant hick. Stop embarrassing yourself, and shut the fuck up, dumb ass.

  • In recent years, MMA, through UFC and Strikeforce, has moved from being an emerging athletic genre to more of a mainstream, established and competitive sport. In doing so, it has developed a young male fan base," said Howard Goldberg, senior vice president, Scarborough Sports Marketing. "Sports marketing has proven its value through a difficult economic climate, and MMA can help marketers capitalize on their customers' engagement with sports.

  • In recent years, MMA, through UFC and Strikeforce, has moved from being an emerging athletic genre to more of a mainstream, established and competitive sport. In doing so, it has developed a young male fan base," said Howard Goldberg, senior vice president, Scarborough Sports Marketing. "Sports marketing has proven its value through a difficult economic climate, and MMA can help marketers capitalize on their customers' engagement with sports.

  • NEW YORK, Nov. 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), a sport combining boxing and martial arts, is attracting young, mid-western consumers, according to sports fan research firm Scarborough Sports Marketing. Scarborough examined the shopping patterns, demographics and lifestyles of Mixed Martial Arts fans* and found that these adults are 51 percent more likely than the average American to be ages 18-24; 25 percent more likely to have a household size of three or more people; and 67 percent more likely to be male. In addition to their youthful demographics, MMA fans have average per capita financials. They are 15 percent less likely than the average American adult to have a household income of $40k+. They represent a large amount of blue collar workers and are not likely to be investors and twelve percent less likely to have stocks or stock options in their household. In recent years, MMA, through UFC and Strikeforce, has moved from being an emerging athletic genre to more of a mainstream, established and competitive sport. In doing so, it has developed a young male fan base, said Howard Goldberg, senior vice president, Scarborough Sports Marketing. Sports marketing has proven its value through a difficult economic climate, and MMA can help marketers capitalize on their customers' engagement with sports. In addition to being young, male and of average income, MMA fans represent a surprisingly high-tech audience. They are not only well above the national average for current ownership of high-tech household items such as HDTVs, VOD service, video game systems and broadband Internet connections, but they are more likely to plan to upgrade their household wares. (see chart below for further details) Beyond technology, the MMA fan base could also have appeal to automotive marketers. These fans represent 25 percent of all adults planning to buy a new pickup truck for their household during the next year, and are 85 percent more likely than the average adult to plan such a purchase within the next year. Other new vehicle categories appealing to the MMA fan include:

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Proof nabster is an idiot

    by Continentalop

    He calls me out for ONE typo (yeah, I used it properly a dozen times in that post, so obviously I don't know how to spell or use a word) as evidence I am an idiot, and then gets defensive when lost jarv points out how he has FIVE GRAMMAR AND SPELLING errors in his post. He continues to try and label everyone in MMA as ignorant dumb hicks and rednecks by cherry picking through data. Hey numbnuts, I probably could go through the data for marketing for NBA fans and use that to label them all as "dumb, ignorant, poor black gang-bangers and thugs", but guess what, I would be wrong. Just like you are! And finally, the fucking moron can't even post anything right. It takes him at least half-a-dozen times each try before somehow pulling it off. I guess he doesn't have the prehensile fingers and cognitive abilities. nabster, you're an idiot, a moron, an asshole and a pathetic human being who has to attack others, including mma fans and the people in our military, to make yourself feel better about your own worthless, insignificant life. Studies prove it.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Nabster

    by Lost Jarv

    Pity really. You may well have learned something. It's a bit of an outside shot, but not beyond the realms of probability. I think you will find that use of apostrophes is actually grammar. The point being, dickhead, that if you are going to pick someone up on a very common typing mistake, then the post that you do it in had better be almost perfect. Otherwise, particularly if it is written in the internet equivalent of crayon, much as yours was, you make yourself look like a complete and utter cunt. So well done with that. Cunt.

  • But you proved me wrong and exceeded expectations. A Congratulations are in order.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Soul-enriching ass-whoopyness?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Fucking idiot.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Oh, what did I step into here?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Smells like testosteroni.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Boxing is dead. People don't care for it. MMA is noble.

    by Subtitles_Off

    This crap is comedy GOLD!

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    The "sport" of dumb hicks?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Ranked in order... 5. MMA 4. NASCAR 3. SEC College Football 2. Wrasslin' 1. Tea Party Rallies Long, long way to go.

  • Aug. 14, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    sub/choppah/nabster, yeh I just bet you like testosteroni bubbeh

    by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_your_ass_tastes

    hey I know you're queer and hate pussy - I remember that famous quote in which you said you were allergic to pussy. glad youre so in touch with his effeminate side, but when he/you act like youre not just another choppah, that is where you fuck up you lying ratsack bag of goat shit prove me wrong

  • NEW YORK, Nov. 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), a sport combining boxing and martial arts, is attracting young, mid-western consumers, according to sports fan research firm Scarborough Sports Marketing. Scarborough examined the shopping patterns, demographics and lifestyles of Mixed Martial Arts fans* and found that these adults are 51 percent more likely than the average American to be ages 18-24; 25 percent more likely to have a household size of three or more people; and 67 percent more likely to be male. In addition to their youthful demographics, MMA fans have average per capita financials. They are 15 percent less likely than the average American adult to have a household income of $40k+. They represent a large amount of blue collar workers and are not likely to be investors and twelve percent less likely to have stocks or stock options in their household. In recent years, MMA, through UFC and Strikeforce, has moved from being an emerging athletic genre to more of a mainstream, established and competitive sport. In doing so, it has developed a young male fan base, said Howard Goldberg, senior vice president, Scarborough Sports Marketing. Sports marketing has proven its value through a difficult economic climate, and MMA can help marketers capitalize on their customers' engagement with sports. In addition to being young, male and of average income, MMA fans represent a surprisingly high-tech audience. They are not only well above the national average for current ownership of high-tech household items such as HDTVs, VOD service, video game systems and broadband Internet connections, but they are more likely to plan to upgrade their household wares. (see chart below for further details) Beyond technology, the MMA fan base could also have appeal to automotive marketers. These fans represent 25 percent of all adults planning to buy a new pickup truck for their household during the next year, and are 85 percent more likely than the average adult to plan such a purchase within the next year. Other new vehicle categories appealing to the MMA fan include:

  • You dumb fuck. How many time's do you need to embarrass yourself. It has nothing to do with GRAMMAR, you dumb ignorant hick. How many times does this need to be said, until you understand this, you dumb shit? I know it comes as a shock to a redneck like you that they are TWO DIFFERENT WORDS. Now why don't you go beat off to the military with continentalop. Consider your ass kicked you dumb cunt.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 5:57 a.m. CST

    I am still trying to understand Nabster's point.

    by StoryFirst

    All I am reading is that people are loving MMA, buying into MMA, putting money into the economy and thus saving it (whilst you're beloved investment banker types are escaping to Asia and the Middle East to maintain their bonuses). These 'hicks' as you call them are grass roots America. They are the hard working souls who give their pound of flesh to this country to ensure its greatness - despite the crumbling industrial and agricultural pressures. And you are insulting them? You are better than them are you? You still haven't told us why you are better than them? You mention some random study which says that 25% of MMA fans plan to buy pick-ups in the next year and that says to you that they are hicks? I say that is a wonderful sign that despite the stumbling economy, these 'hicks' have enough money to buy a new vehicle - probably for business. Well done to them. I salute them. What's your contribution to society? You, Nabster are a complete moron. The kind who everyone hates. Your parents hate you. Your family hates you. The people who work with you (you do work right?) hate you. A cancer on society. Who has proven nothing other than you're a snob. Idiot. Who cares if hicks watch MMA. Snobs watch ballet - what the fuck has that got to do with anything? You are a stupid, stupid man.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Nabster.

    by Lost Jarv

    No. Technically 3 words. Your= belonging to you. You're= A CONTRACTION of you + are. The use of apostrophes falls under Grammar, as apostrophes are used to represent the missing letters. I'd learn this, if I was you, because you seem to think that an apostrophe should go in a plural as well. (Time's= incorrect). Give it up, dickhead. You are just making yourself more and more stupid.

  • Aug. 15, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Wrestlers dominating MMA

    by Hipshot

    It would be difficult to create fair rules that favored boxers. Wrestlers have a serious advantage (and I hate to say this, 'cause I'm primarily a striker). Watch any boxing match. In the thousands of rounds of boxing I've seen, only one time have I ever seen a boxing match end before the first clinch--when Jerry Cooney bombed out Ken Norton in the first few seconds of the first round. Norton never got out of his corner. Other than that, there is always clinching. And if you clinch with a wrestler, and don't know what you're doing? It's over. So the wrestler can stay outside your range, cover up as he crosses the gap, and then he's inside and it's HIS game. MMA is popular because it is the closest thing to "real street combat" you can get with any rules at all. Almost all other sports are surrogate warfare or individual combat (the rest are abstracted hunting-gathering skills). There's never been a time in human history when we haven't been interested in who the toughest and best fighters were. Every village had it's wrestling circles. Boxing was a far more recent development. MMA fighters can take athleticism from other arenas--football, military, etc, and turn it into high-level performance much more rapidly than boxing, which is at THIS moment in history, more of a science...but then has over a century of development. Give MMA a chance. In another 100 years, the fighters at the top will be beyond comprehension. They are already some of the best-conditioned men in the world. Good lord--LOOK at those monsters! And it's just gonna get worse. Or better, depending on your perspective.

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