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UPDATE!! Would You Like Ketchup With Your Bane?? A Few Photos From THE DARK KNIGHT RISES' Stadium Shoot!!

Merrick again...

This just came in from The Great Gonzo's Smarter Brother, who was also at the Pittsburgh shoot on Saturday.  His insight clarifies some details from our post below.  We appreciate his time and effort  - here's his message...

I was at Heinz Field on Sat and I wanted to clarify a few points from your earlier posts. The Tumblers that were there were not filmed at all. They brought them out as a fun distraction for everyone in the stands (official word from the extras organizers in a thank-you e-mail is over 18,000 were there). Once to fire off a "shot" from the giant turret (a charge in the field exploded) and once carrying Pittsburgh Steeler Hines Ward who is playing Gotham Rouge Heinz Ward in the film (Ben Roethlisberger and former Coach Bill Cowher are also on the Rouges). We were also told that Bane has stolen the Tumblers, though no further details were given on that.

As it was explained to us, on the opening kickoff return Bane blows up a significant portion of the field killing the players (that was explicitly stated in the direction we got for our reaction shots) and creating a giant smoking crater. The raised platform in those photos is all that will remain in the final shot. Then Bane comes out with a bunch of mercenaries, a guy who was not identified and the big round thing already described. He gives a speech, and it was clear that what we heard, and what was in the video posted yesterday, was not even close to the full speech he'll give in the movie (since he's wearing that mask that obscures his mouth I'm assuming he'll be looping all of his dialogue anyway) and I imagine that's not really how he'll sound in the final product. The sequence ends with Bane breaking the guy's neck.

Now, though we got no clear idea of his motivations or goals on Saturday, some friends of mine were hired extras on Sunday and relayed that the object he brought out was a nuclear bomb, the guy whose neck he breaks is the inventor/constructor of said bomb, and that as soon as Bane gives his speech he takes the bomb and his mercenaries and leaves. The direction that they were given was that the things that Bane was saying were kinda making sense in a twisted way. So what I thought would be a pretty standard hostage situation after the events on Saturday turns out to be more like he's trying to win people over to whatever cause he has which, to me at least, is a WAAAAAY more interesting plot development!

They also filmed the explosion of a luxury box which reportedly contained Mayor Richard Alpert.

Anyway, I can't confirm this 100% since I wasn't there on Sunday, and who knows, the details given by the production team could have been misdirection, but I heard the stuff on Saturday and I trust my friends' descriptions. 

Weeeeeee my first spy report!

- The Great Gonzo's Smarter Brother


Original article follows...




Merrick here...

Larry From Hell sent in this report from THE DARK KNIGHT RISES' Pittsburgh shoot this past weekend, offering an enhanced perspective on the video we saw yesterday.   

I got to be a crowd extra on August 6, and while it was boring as hell for most of the time there. It was cool just to be there for the experience. During the down time, they raffled off quite a bit of old memorabilia, along with some ipod shuffles/touches, Delta Roundtrip flights, and the Chrysler 200XL car. The Crew filmed about 4-5 scenes all together for that 12 hr stretch i was there(that I saw). I had to use my cell phone camera for the photos and I snuck shots in. I was afraid they might take my phone but it seems like i've seen other photos and really there will be a lot of film enhancements in the end I'm guessing. There was a crowd of about 15,000 I believe so they weren't letting in cameras, but cell phones were permissible.

Scenes filmed were the 
1) Kick-off where the crowd was cheering and filming the football players running the field.
2) scene where players fall into holes(or off the field maybe)
3) scene where soldiers end up in the stands holding crowd at bay.
4) Bane introducing himself to Gotham and bringing out something(a large ball on a dolly - maybe replaced with CGI i don't know), and bringing out a prisoner who almost looks dead.
You can use all the pictures or none of the pictures. I figured i'd give you another perspective. 





We may have some more material coming in shortly...will post if it happens.  Stay tuned!



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  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    So many tumblers

    by David Cloverfield

    I don't know what to make of these pics.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    wouldnt you know it

    by RoyBattysBatter

    more TDKR pics, seriously, does this film have the most lax security ever?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Having a hard time with Bane

    by Acappellaman

    He's coming across as somebody who's masterminding some big operation. I always thought of him as more of a thug. The right-hand man - a silent man - to somebody arranging the chaos. And he's too small. FAR too small! I sure hope Nolan knows what he's doing here!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Ketchup does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    It's certainly got scale, three tumblers! In terms of product placement with the Heinz ketchup billboard behind Bane, from what I understand (from listening to the commentary track on the low budget sci-fi MONSTERS) replacing signs and billboards is dead simple. So maybe he wont be Ketchup Bane in the finished movie.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Is it possible

    by TruantOranje

    for Heinz field to be in any worse shape than it already is? Blow that fucker up!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Has the prisoner being Commissioner Gordon been confirmed?

    by Robert79797979

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST

    What's next, Tom Cruise playing Jack Reacher?

    by tamethecunt

    Sadly the two Tom's are not the correct stature.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    It may look completely different with CGI

    by Gregorso

    Once they add the effects, maybe Bane will look as huge as he should.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Mini-Bane, you make me complete!

    by BiggusDickus

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    I hope the stadium is destroyed in the movie

    by Deep Roots

    only because of the black and yellow. Fuck the Steelers. Ravens!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I keep seeing people say "Tighten up security!"... But how?

    by Chewtoy

    Seriously, they've been shooting on streets lined with offices and apartments in broad daylight, and for this scene they have thousands of unpaid extras in a stadium. They can't tell people not to look out their own windows or search 15,000 people and confiscate their phones. If they were shooting at 2am on bridges and freeways there would be a lot fewer clear cel phone pictures, but apparently that's not what the script calls for.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    as a geeky football fan from Pittsburgh

    by SupermanIsMyGod

    This warms my heart to no end. I never thought the Google alert I set up for "Pittsburgh Steelers" and "Batman" would actually pay off! Here we go Steelers, here we go!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by RoyBattysBatter

    It's a fair point. I guess im more annoyed with myself for being unable to resist clicking on the links to potential spoilers for this flick. I guess I'm just a man of weak resolve.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST

    The more this looks like The Road Warrior...

    by kevred

    ...the worse it will look in comparison. Nothing Nolan can come up with - no matter how grim and dystopian the vision - can come within 100 miles of the power of Mad Max 2. So better to stay far, far away from anything resembling that genius film. It'll only make the guy in the bat suit and the chick in the catsuit look that much more pathetic.

  • Bane in the Comics is on all fronts Batman's equal. He's suppose to be brilliant. The Batman and Robin Bane is a travesty of what the character is suppose to be about. I get the impression Nolan is meshing Bane and the Mutant Leader from TDKR storyline into One character.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST


    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    In fact, Bane was introduced in the comics as the mastermind responsable for the Knightfall arc.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Did someone say...

    by ketchuplover


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Rumor (possibe spoiler)

    by Rob

    Bane is the Joker after going through a process to become Batman's "equal" This will explain why he looks different from heath Ledger and the mask over the mouth covers up his "smile" scars. I heard this from a guy who works in a comic book store and knows everything about Batman.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    This is looking crazier and crazier and Bane better get

    by SID 8.0

    A hell of a lot bigger.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Perception of Bane

    by TheCAT7225

    Its not surprising and forgivable for people to have a hard time seeing Bane as a mastermind villain. Unfortunately the most exposure he's had has been in that terrible movie (B&R) where hes relegated to mindless thug. Unfortunately I feel like the DC animated Universe has sided more with the B&R version of Bane and not the original Bane who is far more interesting and dangerous. Even video game Bane (Batman Arkham Asylum) is embarrassingly Hulk-lite. Bane considers Batman the ruler of Gotham so to "take over" Gotham he needs to rub out the Bat. Congrats Nolan on giving Bane a chance!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST


    by NathanGrey

    So it becomes a rumor because you heard it from a guy who works at a comic book store? So news worthy you report it on a AICN Talkback? Does he even own the comic book store?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST


    by Seth Cohen

    he's not a thug or a right hand man... he was created as a dark mirror to batman, tactically brilliant, cunning... cold and calculating... completely capable of being a mastermind

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Tumblers NOT Involved In The Stadium Scenes!

    by Shannon Nutt

    Just for the record, the tumblers are not involved in any of the stadium scenes...they were just rolled out in between shots for the fans to see (that's why you see Hines Ward riding on top of one).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST


    by Seth Cohen

    thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    With every bottle of ketchup purchased

    by Snookeroo

    you get a free, dishwasher-safe tumbler.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    why is everyone bithing about Bane...

    by Richard

    doing this at a football game? the super bowl last year was the most watched television event in history. if you want to get alot of people's attention, isn't that the scope of audience that you're aiming for? someone said in another talkback that it would be impossible to keep that many people from leaving. true, you couldn't keep them from leaving their seats, but leaving the stadium altogether? all it would take is a dozen or so armed goons at the gates to keep people from leaving. and I think the "elevated field" thing is for after the explosion(s). the field below the elevated part will be replaced with a... "smoldering hole." yeah, Nolan doesn't like CGI, but there were still entire shots of Gotham in BB that were completely digital.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST


    by Richard

    oh, and one of those tumblers has some sort of turret? sweet.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    by Richard

    and watching Book of Eli right now... I really wish Nolan would hand the fight scenes over to the Hughs Bros.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I imagine most of Bane's Muscles are going to be CGI

    by evolution1085

    No way Hardy could back that kind of build onto his frame in so short a time

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    That looks so FUCKING GAY!

    by Jaster

    God fucking damnit! It's Two Face at the circus all over again!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    deep roots

    by Cletus Van Damme

    Go fuck yourself.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    supermanismygod - damn right!

    by Cletus Van Damme


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    I bet this is the nerdiest football crowd in history

    by rev_skarekroe

    Also, Bane on the screen looks like he should be yelling "Mortal Kombaaaaaat!"

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Bane is Joker?


    so crazy and stupid it could be possible. barely. the voice is all wrong. and how many years are going to have passed between TDK and Rises? enough for the Joker to either have escaped and had some experimental surgery and 'roid up? ..or been an arkham test subject of some sort? the mask doesn't look like it covers enough cheek, either- to hide J's scars. still...interesting thought.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    WTF??? No attempt to hide this as Heinz Field?

    by Jack Desmondi

    You've got to be kidding me. A major probably $200 million fuckin dollar Batman movie by Christopher "mindfuck Inception" Nolan and all they do to disguise this as the home of the Steelers is put "Gotham Rogues" on the scoreboard and endzone? Still kept the yellow and black. Still kept the stupid big ass Heinz ketchup bottles on the scoreboard? Nolan is taking his "realism" to an absurd degree.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Bane's voice

    by SilentXero

    I hope they make Bane's voice like the HUMUNGOUS from Mad Max 2(The Road Warrior); it would just be really cool ( Batman, just walk away).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    they weren't letting in cameras, but cell phones were permissible.


    um, they ARE aware that every single phone made now has cameras, right?

  • And Bane's paramilitary army in this movie look like they would serve as the stand-ins for the punks in that graphic novel. So, thus far, it looks like this movie's screenplay is cribbing elements from Knightfall, The Dark Knight Returns, and once again Batman: Year Once (for Selena Kyle's story). This could mean there will be a climax where Batman and Bane slug it out, as Bane's paramilitary army stand around them watching. The victor (Batman) will be the one they then pledge allegiance to. Then Bats leads them against the League of Shadows and Talia to kick them out of Gotham.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    killdeer1 - it's called CGI in post-production

    by theBigE

    Want to make a bet the huge "Heinz" sign is gone when the movie comes out next year? It's called movie magic. Spoiler for you: Superman didn't actually fly in the movies either - they used wires.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I doubt they use the shot of the scoreboard

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    That's why they didn't bother to cover it up. They just were running video on it for the fans to see.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Bane does give me that Mad Mad 2 vibe - The Humungus I think his name was?

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Big muscle man in the vorhees mask. Yeah. Getting a road warrior vibe from Bane.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Gotham Rogues

    by Johnboy40

    Has anybody noticed how the Gotham Rogues little helmet logo and big in the middle of the pitch thingy is clearly the shadow?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    No shit! Thanks tdh1138 , redleaderstandingby and seth cohen!

    by Acappellaman

    Well, consider me a victim to Batman & Robin's awful rendition of the character and to what I saw of Bane in Arkham Asylun. If he is *that* smart, then maybe there's more to the character than I ever knew. Have to say I really appreciate the intelligent responses to my ignorance, and not an acappellman bashing because I said something that clearly paints me as a fan of Batman through the movies and not as much through the comics. I did recently read The Dark Knight Returns, so I'm very familiar with the mutant leader from that. That was a great story, and made Batman look more than human, but still tough as adamantium nails.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    The big fight between Batman and Bane = The Dark Knight Returns fight...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Imagine this scenario: The Gotham junkyard. Batman has commandeered that one Tumbler with the cannon on it. He aims its cannon directly at Bane, who calls him out to fight him hand-to-hand not as a "bat" but as a man. The army of escaped prisoners stands around watching. Then Batman comes out, and it's on between the two -- Bane ripping off Batman's cape. It's raining hard, and mud is being flung. Selena Kyle would serve the same function as Carrie Kelly did in this scene in The Dark Knight Returns graphic. So all the elements are there in Rises to pull off logically a riff/homage to that big fight scene in The Dark Knight Returns between Batman and the Mutant Leader.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by Richard

    the problem with NOT having their colors being black and yellow, is that every freaking seat in the building is YELLOW. I know it's just a small thing, but it would be stupid if their team colors were black and silver. "well, Christopher Lowell said the yellow seats would tie everything together." and you do realize they can easily remove the Ketchup bottles, along with all the other advertisements, from the scoreboard in post, right? I mean, if they even show the scoreboard in the movie at all.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    the heinz logo

    by Johnboy40

    I would be surprised if someone that likes things to be kept in camera as much as nolan would waste money CG ing a logo out of the finished product. I would also say that by the time hardy is seen with out a shirt on, he will have muscles where most people didnt know where you didnt know it was possible to have them.he will be intimidating to all kinds of hell. who cares if he is short.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Shake that camera!

    by CuervoJones

    Shake those elbows! BatDance!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe

    by CuervoJones

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Cameo by Scarecrow in Arkham?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I could see there being an appearance by Cillian Murphy where Batman visits Jonathan Crane locked up in Arkham. Crane could reveal to Batman that Bane breathes in a mix of steroids and a variant of his fear gas, which does the opposite -- giving Bane psychological strength over fear.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    That's actually the best condition that field has ever been in.

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST

    WORST HALFTIME SHOW EVER! Except for Up with People.

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Oh, they'll have shots of the scoreboard, no doubt...

    by Chewtoy

    ...and all of the existing ads will be switched out for product placement partners with the film. Much like Times Square was sporting a lot of Dunkin Donuts ads at the end of Captain America. The studio salivates over opportunities like that.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    thebige - Dude, you're funny!

    by Mennen

    "wires" - awesome.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    1500 extras, eh? That should outdraw a Pirates playoff game.

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST


    by ragingfluff

    you anticipated my question; I don't remember a lot of product placement in TDK. Was there a lot? It doesn't seem like Nolan's thing to have a lot of product placement in his films .... so do you think they'll replace the signs with fake companies ?("Glug! Gotham's Finest Ale" or whatever)

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Just walk away! We want no more violence, no more bloodshed! Just walk away!

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    do they still make the Rothles Burger in pittsburgh!

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I wish just once...

    by Richard

    Nolan did something at least on a small scale that tied in with the rest of the DC universe. having a couple of those signs advertise LexCorp and Green Arrow Industries would be awesome :D

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Humungus meets the Mutant Leader

    by KilliK


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    It's Bane's Dorritos ad.

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    joker as bane

    by Seth Cohen

    is fucking retarded and nolan wouldnt do it... and anyone who speculates its true or thinks its interesting should fucking castrate themselves right now to prevent contamination of your gene pool for pondering something so offensively stupid

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    yeah Nolan has combined TDKR,NO MANS LAND and KNIGHTFALL

    by KilliK

    the stadium looks like it has been struck by an earthquake and not a bomb.Bane and his gang are like the mutants from TDKR.but i am curious about the multiple

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    This is Nolan. I'm not worried.

    by SifoDyasJr

    It will either be good or great. I'm going in with the expectations that this will be equal to Batman Begins, and if it veers up into the level of The Dark Knight, then I'll be even happier. Either way, Nolan will do right by the viewers.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Joker hates his dad


    bet his dad is Ra's and we see him send away a facially wounded son after failing some essential training. or not. lol

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Are you ready for some football?

    by frank

    Pic #3.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by phifty2

    ....brought to you by Doritos.

  • Here's my breakdown based on what has been rumored and what we know so far (potential spoilers, maybe): Batman busts up a meeting between Bane's gang and Scarecrow's. (We get to see the beloved black Bat-Tumbler in action again, without Rises backpedaling on the fact that Joker destroyed it in TDK). Bane and his gang get away on a cargo plane which carries a cargo of fear venom. Scarecrow gets away (to be captured by Batman in the future as we saw in TDK). Racing in his Tumbler, Batman chases the cargo plane down the runway. The plane lifts off. Batman sets the Tumbler on auto-drive, ascends from its top, shoots his grappling gun at the cargo plane, reels himself up to it. He gets himself into the plane, fights a bunch of Bane's goons in the cargo hold, working his way up to the cockpit where Bane is. (Bane hasn't started to wear his mask at this point.) The two fight, causing the plane to rapidly descend toward downtown Gotham. Now, Batman, after he knocks out Bane, either brings the plane to a "soft" landing through the streets of Gotham, or through a nearby body of water. He still saves Bane, because Batman is a cool righteous dude, and the Gotham PD arrive on the scene and take Bane to lock him up at Black Gate prison. As for why Bane and his gang were buying Scarecrow's venom -- as I also speculated above, Batman could visit Crane in Arkham and Crane reveals that Bane figured out that mixing steroids with the fear venom would have the opposite affect on a person. Also, the Gotham football team is connected to this -- we might see on TV sets in scenes scattered throughout the movie of GCN reporting on a brewing scandal where many of the players are embroiled in a steroid scandal, which could explain why the city's team has been doing unusually well this season and look to be headed to the championship. Of course, the real enemy of both Batman/Bruce Wayne and Gotham and the League of Shadows who are manipulating everything behind the scenes. Their leader already sits on the Wayne Industries board of directors -- Talia -- who (like her father did) is using a pseudonym. She supplied Bane with the other three Tumblers.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Most comic book fans would LIKE to see jocks die.

    by venvariants

    I mean...seriously. If Bane is going to blow up a stadium full of sports' fans - what's the real loss?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    i'm going to know the whole plot in the next 6 months

    by smudgewhat

    b/c of these spoilers. how do i force my brain not to look? or rather how does my brain force my eyes not to look.

  • She'll be more of a cross between Selena from Batman: Year One and Carrie from The Dark Knight Returns. Still, there will be references to Catwoman. Her younger, best friend roommate (the hooker who dies in Batman: Year One) might own a black hoodie with cat ears. Selena borrows it to wear to scope out a place (such as a museum) while walking through it during opening business hours. Combine this hoodie with the catsuit she wears, and the goggles from the Batpod (or, "Bikepod") she steals, and the Gotham PD could plausibly describe her as a "cat-woman." Then there would be brief clips on the TVs in the background of scenes of GCN talking head blowhards yelling thing like "We had a man running around at night dressed as a bat -- now we have a woman prowling dressed as a... CAT? A CAT-WOMAN! LORD!"

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Just when you thought the sod couldn't get any worse at Heinz Field...

    by sharkysmachine

  • That shit is awful. Truly awful. Actually, I take that back. You could be a star in Hollywood writing shit like that.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST


    by CaptainAxis

    How the FUCK am I supposed to masturbate to these pictures??????? Seriously, some of you guys have fucked-up priorities when it comes to making a film. Go jerk off to your comics and stop posting in the talkbacks. Nolan could have cast Nathan Jones as Bane, and the look would have been right but it would be a shitty choice as far as acting. Personally, I wanted to see Benicio Del Toro cast as Bane way back. He is a bigger guy, a tremendous actor, and the accent would be perfect. But Tom Hardy is an inspired choice and anybody who doubts that obviously hasn't seen Bronson.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    There "is" a reason.

    by Aaron

    Forgive me.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Captain axis

    by Aaron

    Del Toro as Bane is pretty genius.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I think AICN needs to calm down and stop posting every Bane picture

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    that comes their way. At least wait until we get a picture of Bronsonized Bane.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    @Deep Roots

    by sharkysmachine

    I understand why you'd want the stadium destroyed: it's been Kryptonite for the Ravens year after year. Everyone is soooo tired of you guys whining to league about having to play prime-time games there - WAAAAAAA.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    fact: heinz field ALWAYS looks like that

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    they saved tons of money on set building

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I think we are onto something

    by Rob

    with Ra's being Joker's Dad... The whole Trilogy is getting woven together into one tight narrative a la Star Treks 2, 3, 4 Selina Kyle could be the cousin of Rachael Dawes out for revenge against Joker/Bane (same character)

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    That's actually footage of Bane's Live-Aid performance.

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Bronsonized Bane?

    by Richard

    You mean this:

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Ra's disowned his son, the joker (and maybe scarred(shamed) him)


    ..because despite being a brilliant schemer and potential heir, he actually seemed to delight in the judgement test where he had to kill someone, instead of just being cold and just about it. or because (as we saw in TDK) he always found a way to get other people to do his dirty work for him. but nah, highly unlikely Ra's is Joker's dad. i mean what with Heath not even going to appear in this one. But still- i'm curious as to when the 'young Ra's' actor is used. maybe he meets the Waynes when they were alive? maybe he once made some kind of offer to thomas wayne? maybe young bruce met him and never knew.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST


    by Rob

    Young Ra's could have been Joe Chill... I just blew my mind!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    @sharkysmachine - nice

    by Cletus Van Damme

    3 days until Steeler pre-season!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    Camera's banned but cell phones allowed?

    by seasider

    What year does this crew think it is, 1992? Nolan does seem to be more lax on security which probably doesn't make Warner Bros. too happy.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    joe chill got shot by a chick working for falcone in BB


    remember? a woman with a very brooklyn accent wearing red. harley quinn? lol. j/k.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I'm willing to bet the farm that

    by Rob

    with Nolan being the Exec. Producer of the new Superman movie, we will get some kind of crossover in TDKR that will lead into Superman. But, hey, I thought Obama was going to be a good president, so what the hell do I know??

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    ragingfluff: They had product placement in The Dark Knight...

    by Chewtoy

    Nolan's pretty subtle with it, but it's there. Signs on buildings for banks, background signs in bars and on city skylines. Wayne's phone, Ford cars... all sorts of things. Studios simply can't afford to spend the kind of money they do and not take some product placement cash. So when you get to a setting that would be odd if it didn't include billboards and the like, they usually take advantage of it to sell the billboard space to the highest bidder.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Yes, Joe Chill got shot, but....

    by Rob

    he didn't die OR since he was really Ra's, his men took him to the nearest lazurus pit and revived him! Boo Yah!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Bane bitching in 3..2..1

    by disfigurehead

    Bane looks gay on the screen. Bane sucks. Blah blah

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    i do hope Begins and TDK are cited and come full circle and mesh.


    i hope Nolan pulls off some twist reveal in pt 3 that will make us all run back and watch the other two and go- HOLY SHIT- that's what that rather obscure part or plothole meant!!! it all makes sense! but i doubt it- and i'm not seeing that. and it's been clearly stated that nolan wasn't even sure about making a third flick. from the characters to the possible motivations, this third flick looks almost totally related from the other two except for batman and the tumbler(s). still, if he can pull off a reveal like in momento or the prestige, here's to hoping he does it with this third act, and all the bane stuff ties in or is a chaotic distraction to the core.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    totally unrelated, i meant


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    harrison_fords_taint - I would agree, but for one detail...

    by Cletus Van Damme

    They're going to reboot this franchise after this movie. That being the case, I think you're more likely to see a Batman tie-in at the end of Man of Steel that ties in with the rebooted Bat-franchise, as those two characters would be the two sharing a universe going forward.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    If TDKR is not that related to the others,

    by Rob

    Nolan should have made the "bad guy" Gorilla Grood... I have a Batman Comic/ record album from the 70's with a Neil Adams Batman in Gorilla City. That would make a killer Batman movie! Oh well, maybe in the JLA movie....

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Azultool - you're thinking of Sergio.

    by Cletus Van Damme

    Jon Hamm as Sergio as Bane in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES:

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Catwoman Stunt Girl Crashes Batpod into IMAX Camera!

    by Cheif Brody

    While filming Selina Kyle's escape from that brawl we've all seen on the Gotham City Hall set...Hathaway's stuntwoman takes out an expensive IMAX camera as she navigates down the stairs. TMZ has the video here: <p> <p> The budget just went up a million! Hope they were able to save that film! That would be a super cool shot.

  • I know many have complained about it, and I get it. But, I think a full on catwoman suit for Nolan's universe may have been a little too much. Even though there's a dude dressed up like a bat.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Anne Hathaway responds to Catwoman costume backlash

    by Rob

    I asked someone to send me a few reactions [to the photo]," she told MTV. "And I happen to know that MTV's reaction was 'meh.'

  • Nolan being forced by the studio to include Joker or Penguin would = Venom in SM3.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST


    by shodan6672

    Bane is supposed to be a genius as well and enormously powerful. I see no reason why he couldn't be a mastermind.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I kind of like what I am starting to see

    by Geektard_Smasher

    big "blow em up good" scenes with crowds and hostages and all that. But really, if this is pre-Roided up Bane, then he should not have the mask and maybe just a casual suit like Liam Neeson had, or t-shirt and jeans and a jacket or something. Then when he is going to Bane-up have the Road Warrior clothing and mask. And look, dipshits, how can you confiscate the cell phones of 15,000 people. Do you know how long that would take and how many people would be involved. I think Nolan knows this shit will get out, but like most Hollywood muckety mucks he is clueless from too much coke and porking 20 high price call girls at a time in his penthouse/mansion, and he somehow thinks these leaks will cause excitment. Boy, was he out of touch with that! He really better deliver some good looking official stuff to counteract all this. SOON.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I have an Aussie friend who has an unhealthy attachment to ketchup.


    If there's ketchup to be had, he'll have it.

  • That fact that Nolan & the costumers ditched the kitty ears is enuff to keep it grounded in the universe he's created. <p> I bet the only time we see the ears on Hathaway is as a shadow cast on the wall...or as Selina Kyle at a Halloween gathering at stately Wayne Manor.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    I knew a fat black kid at Venice High

    by Geektard_Smasher

    who would eat plates of ketchup. He would pour ketchup on a plate and eat it with a spoon like pudding. Probably had good colon health, but diabeties probably took that fat little brother out by the mid-90's.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Catwoman in the new Batman video game

    by Geektard_Smasher

    Arkham City would have fit in the Nolan verse. She has a great look with a sensible cat burgler costume that kind of doubles as armor like Bats does, and also a cool googles and helmut set up. Plus plunging neckline. That look would have been sweet, and I at first thought it was a tie in to the movie Selina. My heart sank when I saw the Emma Peel leather they put her in.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Ben Roethlisberger Cameo

    by LiquidHotMagma

    He plays a guy that Batman stops from assaulting a woman in a Gotham tavern. The character's name is Ben Roesthlisberger.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    =Watch what the stunt double is wearing above.=

    by KilliK

    relaaaaaax.they will cgi-correct it in post,right? RIGHT?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Catwoman suit from Arkham City video game:

    by Cheif Brody

    I think that would have worked better, too, geektard. Image here: <p>

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    At some point Bane meets with this "mad scientist"...

    by shaft478

    played by Alon Abutbul, which allows him to increase his overall size. I came to this conclusion all by myself.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST

    anybody think the hostage might be Lucius Fox?


    who else is 'technic'ally responsible for the tumbler, for 95% of batman's gear, etc? who has the tech knowledge to both liberate or oppress Gotham? whose torture would bring out Batman? Who is 'corporate' enough to possibly envoke the anger of lower middle class gothamites?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Also, regarding Bane's stature

    by shaft478

    We know at some point he is bigger than Batman from the end of the teaser. I don't get all the fuss.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by shaft478

    I think someone would've noticed Morgan Freeman on set

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    shaft- yeah i know, but...


    no one has gotten a good view of the hostage or even described him. no comment of race though so i'm assuming he's white.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Bane Kidnapped Apache Chief...Now has "Inyuk-chuk" power!

    by Cheif Brody

    Which means "Big Man", btw.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Nolan Seems to Bee Suffering from Sequel New Math.....

    by Shankapotomus

    If one tumbler = cool three tumblers must = extra cool!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    wonder if they used kids in spacesuits again?


    that was how they made the scale of the jockey's chamber seem even bigger in ALIEN- they had kids in smaller scale spacesuits for the shot where they eneter the chamber and approach the jockey. once you know that, you'll notice how awkward and childlike they walk and approach it. which isn't bad, seeing as how the characters were supposed to be awed and wearing clunky spacesuits.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    oh shit- ha ha that was for the Prometheus topic...


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Hostage could be...

    by Human Tornado

    ... broken Bats himself? Big identity reveal?

  • I would've said Browns, but they can't write.

  • we've seen pics of bane and bats fighting outside the stadium. Bane was without coat. fans were fighting cops. this is before that- bane still has coat on, stadium has not erupted to violence yet. bats has not fought bane yet, therefore, no battered bruce. BUT it could be joseph gordon levitt if he was being a batman copycat and was beaten by Bane- who thinks he was the real batman. eh? eh? eh? and that was not JGL as a cop in the fight scene the other day- it was an asian dude. so it makes sense. and- thinking he's captured batman, Bane would be caught off guard when the real Batman and catwoman show up at the stadium.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Heinz rejected Don Draper, but went with Bane?!

    by Dennis_Moore

    Gotham "Rogues?" Stupidly self-referential.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    sooooo...then maybe the trailer shows JGL getting his ass kicked.


    methinks he and Bale have kind of the same jawline. better rewatch the trailer to make sure.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST

    People act like Nolan can do no wrong...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    He hasn't made a movie equal to Memento yet. Insomnia was extremely mediocre. The Prestige was decent but nothing memorable. Begins felt like a trailer for a real Batman movie, which we were supposed to get from TDK, buuuuut....that movie had more plot holes than a slice of swiss cheese and Nolan CANNOT FILM ACTION, he SUCKS as an action least Burton's action scenes were visually interesting, he knew how to put together an exciting sequence. Nolan is far too fucking cerebral for action, he films it like a damn TV show (look at the snow sequence in Inception!). And Batman is essentially an action film!!! So no, Nolan is not infallible, he's very capable of making mediocre disposable films, which he's done. The Batman name and the realism angle has given him geek street cred like crazy, but there's nothing special about his Batman films, they'll be forgotten when Michael Mann or Aronofsky or Croneberg is hired for the remake in 5 years (one can only hope). Nolan needs to get back to his roots, he's good with cerebral type films with NO ACTION like Memento. Even though Bane and Catwoman look ridiculous, I will see this film, not opening night but some matinee the next weekend or two to avoid the drooling, masturbating fanboys.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST


    by CloneWars

    The costume dept of the movie should be canned...

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    These Mad Max quotes are perfect!

    by GWARHOL

    Especially after you pathetic turds repeat them for the millionth time!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST


    by Rob

    I fucked your wife/ sister/mom in the ass.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    If Blade Runner influenced the look of Batman Begins

    by Mattman

    And Heat influenced the look of The Dark Knight. Then I am perfectly okay with The Road Warrior influencing Dark Knight Rises. Although, determining this from behind the scenes photos is stupid.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Hey look, it's...

    by erniedouglas

    Kevin Smith in the second picture.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Billy_D: 'Nolan CANNOT FILM ACTION'

    by Mattman

    The zero-g fight scene in Inception says otherwise.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    At least Humungus was humongous.

    by KilliK

    not a short,thin guy like Hardy's Bane.Was HW out of steroids when they cast him?

  • Hardy is the same height as me(5'10"), and said in an interview that he got up to 196 pounds for the movie. He weighs 40 pounds more than me, and I'm not frail by any means. The dude is built like a tank... maybe he doesn't meet everyone's exaggerated comic book steroids of Hulk-lite Bane interpretations, but he's pretty damn big for, you know, a normal human being.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    the zero g sequence in Inception was mostly ONE FUCKIN SHOT

    by Billy_D_Williams

    instead take a look at the snow sequence. Check mate.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    ...or most of the action scenes in Begins...

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    This movie has me kind of enamored

    by Kammich

    I think "The Dark Knight Rises" could go down as one of the greatest "What If?"s in filmic history. No matter how good or how poor the final film turns out to be, the geek community will always have a lingering question in the back of their minds. What if Heath Ledger didn't die in 2008? I believe its been stated that Goyer, Nolan and Nolan's story outline spanned three films from the very beginning. Back in 2004, do you REALLY think the outline went like this?: "Ra's in film 1. Joker and Two Face in film 2. Uhh... Bane in film 3??" I'm sure they had an epic, monumental, Joker-centric finale planned. And its a damn shame that we'll never get to see it.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by Mattman

    All the batpod sequences in Dark Knight are good action scenes too. What you said was NOLAN CANNOT FILM action. Sometimes that is true (specifically Batman Begins... some really bad shots there). But both Dark Knight and Inception proved that he actually can.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I hope they show Bane's origin

    by Autodidact

    Bane's origin would make a pretty bad-ass opening sequence. Take 10 minutes and show him being raised in Pena Duros, and meeting up with the league of shadows in there.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    I wish I hadn't seen all this shit


    I can't resist clicking on these stories.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    The good action stuff in Begins is not typical of Nolan's style...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    meaning it was probably either storyboarded by the art dept., much like Singer deferring most of the action staging to the storyboard guys on X2- if you notice in X2 the action scenes are better than in X1, Singer did not just suddenly become a good action director... OR Wally Pfister, as is often with DPs with weak directors in certain areas, came up with the staging... the bottom line is the action of the batpod stuff is atypical of Nolan and is not a good indicator of his action skills...NO ONE disputes Bay, because he clearly comes up with all his own action blocking, you can even see it in the behind the scenes stuff for his movies, he's like a general with the action, barking orders "put the camera here!!!", etc...his action has been consistent over his entire filmography, proving he's a master action filmmaker....he sucks at everything else, but there you have it. Nolan just doesn't have the visual chops...nothing wrong with that, he just needs to stay away from action films and get back to Memento type shit...or let a really good 2nd unit guy handle the action.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    sorry, meant the good stuff in TDK is not typical of Nolan, woops

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST

    aha, so what I see is....

    by corplhicks

    There is a false raised part of stadium so give fake perspective that he cratered the stadium; Bane's people have tumblers !!!!! and someone is gonna die or almost die.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry but the more I look at Bane and his muzzle mask...

    by Continentalop

    ...the more I keep thinking "And you went with Bane over the Penguin because he is more BELIEVABLE and REALISTIC?!?"

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    @kammich Ronnie Coleman,Dorian Yates,Jay Cutler,Batista

    by KilliK

    and if we are talking about movies Ferigno,Arnold,Hogan,the Rock,etc.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by Kammich

    yeah, you're probably right... one day I hope I'll be a grown-up. I probably can't even intimidate my 4 year-old nephew. frown. in all seriousness, its not so much a strict sense of height and weight with Hardy. the guy is built to about the maximum capacity of his frame(I know you get some NFL outside 'backers who run on the short side and get up to about 5'10, 235, but thats after 4 years of college weight training and X amount of years of pro weight training). Hardy is pretty damn intimidating and imposing in "Bronson," and from what I've seen of that new Joel Edgerton MMA movie he's in, he looks pretty scary in that too. I think its probably irrelevant, anyway. I don't think Nolan's interpretation of the character is what people are expecting. I'm sure he wanted a bombastic, charismatic actor like Hardy over some huge, bulky body builder. just like he wanted an Irish white guy for Ra's al Ghul and a self-mutilating anarchist for the Joker.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    = Inception proved that he actually can=

    by KilliK

    i am sorry but the action sequence in the snowy mountain was atrocious.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I think we have to explain this every tb, but while Hardy isn't that big by combining SFX and forced perspective you can make him look pretty damn big I imagine. Sly Stallone is no heavyweight, but he sure looked like one in the rocky movies. I imagine they can do the same with Bane in this film (but yeah, he isn't going to be the giant from the comics).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    does Jay Cutler fall under the 'fat' category?

    by Kammich

    although I heard he showed up pretty ripped to training camp. That cat had one of the greatest arms I've ever seen--this side of Jeff George--coming out of Vandy, but he's become a predictably average QB. no leadership skills and pocket presence whatsoever, and with Chicago's patchwork OLine I don't see that changing. oops. sports tangeant. go eagles.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    does Jay Cutler fall under the fat category?

    by Kammich

    I heard he showed up pretty ripped to training camp, but I'll always picture him as the pudgy, bowl-cut Tobey Maguire type. that dude had one of the greatest arms I've ever seen--this side of Jeff George--coming out of Vandy, but he's become a predictably mediocre pro QB. no leadership qualities and no discernable pocket presence. and with Chicago's patchwork OL I think such problems will probably persist. oops. sports tangeant. go eagles.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Joker in TDKR

    by squiddude

    What are the chances that Joseph Gordon-Leavitt will indeed play some form of the Joker and the rest is just misinformation to preserve the secrecy? What are the chances that someone who looks just like Heath Ledger just happens to be brought on board, but as some other random character? Just a thought...

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    cursed double post

    by Kammich

    the first one didn't show up for like 8 years, so i just posted it again. my bad. Firefox has been acting screwy for me on AICN.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    continentalop, I 100% Agree

    by Twisk

    I totally agree with you on this. ...I would much rather have seen the Penguin™, and there's no need for him to be disfigured or something (like with Batman Returns®) - he could have been completely realistic. Anyway, I'll just be happy as long as Bane© does not say repeatedly the word 'BOMMMMBBB!' while placing fake, plastic ice dildos onto the floor of a giant telescope.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    @kammich i am talking about Jay Cutler the BBuilder

    by KilliK

    not the football player....

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    my god there's TWO jay cutlers?!

    by Kammich

    i am freaking out right now

  • before Nolan even cast him, fans were saying, if anyone could pull it off it'd be JGL. then nolan casts him in INCEPTION and we all went apeshit thinking we were on to something. then he casts him in this, and we are like OOOH fuck..could it be??! at first rumors had him playing the calendar man. then it seemed to be confirmed that he plays 'one of the good cops' who works with batman. i say anything is possible at this point. could JGL play the part of a pre-scarred joker a few years younger for a flashback? could he play a small cameo in arkham as current joker? who knows. nolan and JGL.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Billy D...Swiss Cheese Does Not Have Plot Holes

    by Shankapotomus

    It just has holes.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I have probably been the biggest Penguin booster on this site, and have long advocated that the Golden Age version of the Penguin would have fit in perfectly with Nolan's vision, especially as a follow up to the Joker.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I laughed at that. Bane does look like he is challenging Hogan or the Ultimate Warrior in a cage match at Wrestlemania.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    remember killing joke?


    joker was a schmo with a pregnant wife who gets roped into a bad descision to get by and ends up having a very very bad day where absolutely everything goes horribly wrong and he loses it all. i wish nolan would have pulled from that. :/

  • Knowing full well how much of the general public (between both fans perched out around the set of on-location shooting, and the ones used as extras in the stadium and such) is seeing this stuff so early on and with no context at all, etc, that he'd have Tom Hardy speak his dialogue live on location in a totally different voice/accent than how it'll be in the finished film. I mean you know they're gonna be ADR'ing up that shit anyway. So it'll be Nolan's way to still keep as much of Bane secret as possible.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I prefer that Nolan didn't and just touched upon it slightly (with the "multiple choice" origin). For me the Joker does work best when presented like he was in his first appearance: an enigmatic being, completely formed with no history, origin or background. A cipher. He is like John Doe from Se7en, and to me that makes him scarier and more believable (any origin is not going to be as good the one from my imagination).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST

    it'd be funny if bane's not even in it.


    and he just staged all this in Pittsburgh as a diversion and Hardy did it as a favor, meanwhile JGL is off filming more Joker scenes in another part of town, secretly ah, fuck...we can wish.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I hope it isn't Joker Zombot

    by Continentalop

    But if JGL was shooting Riddler scenes, or maybe they had someone shooting Penguin or Hugo Strange scenes, I would be a lot happier. Of course, if I was a studio exec I would be pissed at Nolan for wasting a huge shitload of money...

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    ha i guess i connect with the Killing Joke's Joker


    - since i've certainly had days where absolutely everything goes wrong and you have nothing left... and literally, all you can do is kind of an exhausted, insane little laugh about it, and will pretty much do anything to make other people suffer like you did. lol, but that's just me. "Perhaps I know best why it is man alone who laughs; he alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter." ~Friedrich Nietzsche ...

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    No problem Zombot

    by Continentalop

    That is the thing about Joker and Batman - 70+ years of stories so everyone is going to have their favorite era and version, and pretty much all of them are going to just as legitimate as the next persons. Great Nietzsche quote btw.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    You mean the Road Warriors, azultool?

    by Continentalop

    Hawk and Animal? "Though we walk through the Valley of Death, we fear no evil...because we are THE EVIL!" I think Bane needs Sheik Adnan al-Kaissie as his manager.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    i got the impression batman's grapple went through heathJoker's leg


    whether it did- or somehow managed to 'lasso' his ankle perfectly- i don't care what material it's (the line) made of- his foot would have been torn off at that speed of descent. and that's from someone who loves TDK warts and all.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    oops, I just saw the expanded TB...Hawk and Animal

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Let the Joker theories die please

    by sunwukong86

    I really hope Nolan is a better film maker than to re use Joker.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by doom master

    ur missing out on news regarding Catwoman's suit - actress says thats only a tenth of what the catsuit looks like....

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    I don't go to Nolan Films for the action.

    by cookylamoo

    I go to drink in the pretension.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    It's spelled ROGUE, not ROUGE, you fuckin moron

    by ShiftyEyedDog

    I guesw The Great Gonzo is pretty fucking stupid, since his "Smarter Brother" can't even spell. Why is it so hard? ROGUE. Not ROUGE. Rouge is a fucking color, like in Moulin Rouge. It's like people who spell tongue as "tounge", or even worse, people who say "nucular" instead of Nuclear.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    commissioner gordon

    by apersonofinterest

    judging by the trailer, it looks like commissioner gordon got fucked up by someone. probably bane.

  • Bay has KILLED the action movie genre. Now everyone thinks everything is supposed to be herky-jerky editing. Thank god for Rise of the Apes... which had good, coherent action scenes. I want to see more of that.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by Steve

    Well done Sherlock

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    At any rate, I'll agree Begins' action scenes suck

    by Mattman

    I watched it again the other night and was squinting to make out what was happening. The movie still works for me due to the characterizations and an involving origin story... but I cannot join the "Begins is better than TDK" crowd.

  • When the movie comes out, and you realize it doesn't matter how dull movie sets actually look

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Pretty clear the producers dont mind some leakage

    by WickedJacob

    Cellphones still don't give as clear shots as professional cameras. Sounds to me like the producers like the idea of phone-level shots getting out, building speculation.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I always held the theory that the reason the fight scenes look bad is because of the costume - the bat suit prevents you from moving that good. But the first fight scene in BB is also pretty choppy, so that might just be Nolan's style (or maybe Nolan and the editor Lee Smith wanted it to look consistent with the rest of the fight scenes; I don't know).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    any theories that the 'hostage' is Harvey Dent?


    why would bane show up at the stadium, tear up a photo of Harvey Dent (as the public knew him) then drag out a 'near dead' hostage? was harvey alive, being drugged or comatose elsewhere after all?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    And I agree with you that TDK is vastly superior to BB. Which is why I get disappointed looking at these pics - it looks like Nolan is going more BB direction than what he did in TDK.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Anne Hathway better meow when she speaks

    by Nabster

    Otherwise this movie will suck.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Conti, well, there's alot more right with Begins than wrong

    by Mattman

    Pretty much my major complaint is the fight choreography (and Katie Holmes). I love all the setup and I like the conflict. I have no illusions about Dark Knight Rises surpassing Dark Knight, but I definitely think it could be better than Begins. And this has one thing Begins doesn't: Catwoman. Every little rumor I've heard about her character's development sounds spot on... in the same way Nolan's portrayel of the Joker was spot on. Bane... I have no expectations for. I don't dislike the character, but he's far from a favorite. I think Nolan will do something interesting with him, and chose him as a villain for a specific reason. We have yet to see what that is.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    mattman, I had more problems with BB than you did

    by Continentalop

    The extended origin, the League of Shadows, the ninja training, Wayne almost killing Chill, the microwave cannon and the monorail climax, etc. I can understand why others like it but for me it went again the conceit of the movie's concept - making a plausible Batman who existed in a universe very close to ours. Which is why I was so glad in TDK they moved so far away from that and went in the direction of making Batman more in a pulp detective/crime mold than a super-heroic comic book one. Which is why once again nothing so far in the new one, except for maybe Catwoman, is getting me that excited. But different strokes for different folks.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Fucking Magnets, How do they work?

    by paul james atwood

    I dont like chiming in on these things cause I have to cope with my own geekiness, but I have been holding back for too long. These are production photos. Not a finished product. If they can make grown men into hobbits, turn Zoe Saldana into a blue giant, and turn Robbie Coltrane into Hagrid, I am pretty sure beefing up Tom Hardy a little in the post production will be no big deal. Stop bitching, at least until after July 20th.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Some PROBABLE plot points--SPOILERS

    by batmancw

    I haven't read ALL the comments here, but to clarify some questions that seem to keep recurring... The Joker is NOT in this movie, nor is the Riddler Bane is NOT the Joker after undergoing a "process to make him Bats' equal" Bane WILL almost certainly be allied with and or leading the League of Shadows--the movie is intended to take Bruce/Bats "full circle" back to his beginnings. Whether she starts out as an ally or not, Catwoman WILL be/become Bats' ally. It's UNLIKELY, though NOT impossible, that Bane will break Bats' back. Even though online spoilers suggest that a Lazarus pit scene was filed, I doubt it will be used as a way to heal Batman. I could be wrong, but so far Nolan has stayed away from anything smacking of "supernatural" & I just doubt he'd go that way for his final Bats movie--BUT, I could be wrong Marion Cotillard, though listed as Wayne Enterprises employee Miranda Tate is almost certainly allied with the LOS, probably IS actually Talia al Ghul (Ra's daughter--young Ra's could have been used for a flashback scene with her mother and/or her as a child) & it's HER access to Wayne equipment that allows Bane & his gang to steal the tumblers. And last but not least--Batman will save the day & Gotham after some sort of epic battle with Bane & his minions that I predict will leave the Bane haters here speechless. Now, everything I just wrote MAY be wrong, but those are my best "guesses" based upon the shitload of spoiler info that has hit the web, my "take" on what type of story Nolan would likely choose to tell, and my overall knowledge of the Batman universe. Trust in Nolan folks--this movie WILL ROCK

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    In the trailer Batman is putting up his dukes

    by Geektard_Smasher

    In a very amatuer fighter way. Like a wimpy schoolkid putting up his dukes in a vain effort to look like a fighter against a tough bully. I am very convinced that is supposed to be somebody else as Batman, and he has the bad luck to come across Bane. Bane beats his ass, brings him to the stadium to unmask him, and the real Bats shows up to layeth the smacketh down. Bank on it.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    hostage idea

    by batmancw

    Perhaps it's Harvey's replacement as DA?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    your moms box can't tell an asian from JGL


    multiple pics prove it wasn't JGL. i'm not sold on him being secretly the joker- i do lean toward him being a cop (probably a detective, not a boy in blue) who helps batman and/or impersonates him and then gets his ass handed to him by Bane who drags him out into the stadium believing him to be the real batman. seriously go look at the pics again. it's an asiatic cop.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST


    by catlettuce4

    They used perspective tricks and filmed scenes with short/tall doubles in the movies you mentioned, to make certain characters larger or smaller. No such tricks are evident in the scenes of this Batman film, we have seen Bane right next to Batman fighting him. There is no way to use the type of scale/camera tricks you are hoping for with such a setup. Please, can we just accept that Ban is not a hulking big character in this? He's not. He won't be. He's going to look like he looks in these photos and clips, period.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Those tumblers...

    by catlettuce4

    I'm thinking "MegaForce" when I see them all together like that. Cool!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST

    JGL theory

    by Continentalop

    His character name is John Blake. A John Blake has appeared in the comics, but that was just some kid that the Joker made cry in an old story. But... There was a JOHN Grayson. And there is also an actress named Madge BLAKE who played Aunt Harriet. Just a wild guess, but I wonder if JGL is playing a cop by the name of John Grayson, who just so happens to be the father of a young boy named Richard. Just a wild guess...

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    Are you suggesting Condiment King will be making an appearance in this film?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Holy hole in a donut, Batman!

    by CherryValance

    It's a proper set report. *faints* lol Anyhoo, I'd hate to think Mayor Manscara will meet such a terrible fate. :( This is an awesome reports, peeps. :D

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    lol he sounds EXACTLY like that Princess Bride guy


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST


    by CherryValance

    Remember that time he was in a "dweam within a dweam"? lolololol That's probably how it happened. XD

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Don't know much about Bane

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    but he always seemed like a stupid character to me. So I gives a shit what Nolan does with him.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    remember the excitement and anticipation for TDK


    Not feelin' it. Now the Avengers, that's a different story. Prometheus. Check. The Hobbit. Django Unchained. I guess TDKR is #5 Where the fuck is the Riddler? Paging Mr. Penguin, Mr. Penguin please report to the stage

  • I like the contrast in that. Joker the dog chasing cars not knowing what to do if he caught them, and Bane is a big rabid beast, complete with muzzle. If he chomps down on your leg consider your marrow gone.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    it has already been confirmed that the bat-jet will be in this movie.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    Where was that confirmed? You got a link?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    bat jet : affirmative


  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Earthquake machine?

    by Teddy Artery

    Hmm... I hope not. Maybe it was just a massive underground explosion?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    I'm hoping if they do have a batjet

    by Continentalop

    It is something like a Canard Rotor/Wing.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    The Humungus before steroids?

    by v3d

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    From a person in the crowd (spoilers)

    by Johnno711

    The tumblers are NOT in the scene, they just paraded them around for the crowd The raised part of the field is the only part of the field left after the bombs underneath it explode (after the CGI is complete) Both football teams die presumably on live TV

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST


    by Steve

    Bane has always been one of the biggest threats Batman has ever faced. He is a master strategist and remains one of the only villains to ever beat Batman. He is the only one to actually break Batman. Think of him as what Bruce Wayne would have grown up to be if he was kept a prisoner in a third world prison his entire life. Your vision of Bane is wrong and ignorant. You should read up on characters before commenting.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    menasyng--great point

    by batmancw

    True. It's amazing to read so many comments dismissing Bane based upon his "look" The folks doing so clearly don't know the character's history. I'd say he's one of Bats" 3 deadliest & canniest opponents--the Joker & Ra's al Ghul being the other 2 The other funny thing is how many posters here CLEARLY didn't read the report above the photo before commenting--the person who was there states that the Tumblers were just brought out to fire up the crowd & were not in the scene

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST

    menasyng--make that top 4

    by batmancw

    I forgot Hugo Strange.

  • Only with an additional over the top strap. Plot point or lack of creativity by the design department?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    It's been suggested that is because IF Venom is used, the mask delivers it as an aerosol, versus the old "tube into the head" device.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    by Continentalop

    I do know Bane's history. I just don't like the character and especially don't like the way they have designed his costume/look for this movie. You like him, hey more power to you, but don't get upset at us who never found him that interesting and are not excited by the photos of him so far. And can we please stop saying "He Broke the Bat." Every villain Batman has faced has pushed him or put him in a worse situation than he has ever been in before - so trying to single out Bane's big accomplishment is pointless. Especially if you consider the fact he didn't stay broken for long.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    At least you are an "educated" criticizer, unlike many here who have said things like--don't know much about him, but he looks... Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion, and while other posters may have seemed upset by the criticism, I'm just amused, because I expect the finished product will be awesome. I think we may see an aerial bat vehicle though--based upon some reports I've read. It would make sense considering they have filmed in quite a few locations around the world.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    The Steelers - America's most hated team

    by MooseMalloy

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    think it's safe to assume that Bane has

    by alexander

    at least some kind of basic connection to Ra's and/or The League of Shadows. Please don't tell me The Prestige is 'meh' and Nolan peaked at Memento. On repeat viewing it seems pretty apparent Memento may very well be his best work so far.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    Don't worry. Everyone has their own taste/favorite Batman foes. I personally don't like him but I can understand how others can. My only pet peeve is when people say he is the only man to "Break the Bat." Every villain has "broken" him someway or another, or pushed him harder than he has been pushed before (Joker killed a sidekick and crippled Batgirl; Penguin framed him and escaped from him God knows how many times; Hugo Strange figured out his secret identity and almost sold it; and even the Riddler has put him in some harrowing situations), or at least until another villain comes along.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST

    How will Bane "Break the Bat" if...

    by Gus Van Rant

    He is not tall enough to punch him in the nut bag? Hey Nolan...Vern Troyer called and said that if you need him to replace Hardy, you have his number.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    batmancw... Conti knows his shit

    by Mattman

    It's refreshing.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I don't think Bane can break Batman's back in this movie but...

    by Gus Van Rant

    Maybe give him full blown AIDS is a possibility. Thoughts?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    continentalop-we are in agreement

    by batmancw

    I actually agree 100%. Cheers

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    surprised no one's mentioned Hardy is actually CAST as Mad Max


    when that gets off the ground- and this could make or break hardy's starpower- Miller has Hardy slated to be the new Max. so, feel free to make more road warrior humungus jokes if you want but they are all lame and we've heard them. you are not new.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST

    sod me Memento!? I meant The Prestige dammit!

    by alexander

    The Prestige may be his best work so far

  • if they're going to break the bat?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST

    AIDS, syphilis, leprocy, piles

    by alexander

    and a gammy leg

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Go "educate yourself" by reading comcs

    by Geektard_Smasher

    >At least you are an "educated" criticizer, unlike many here who have said things like--don't know much about him, but he looks...< Man, Bane-loving comic book dorks telling people they should go get educated by reading a comic from the 90's (the worst time for comics, I'm told) is priceless. Like they need to go witness this bland and boring lame super-luchador in the funny books to know it sucks. Get a grip, geektards!

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    It's always sad to see someone try to boost their self esteem by criticizing something others enjoy. If I want to debate what villains I like with someone else, why do YOU give a fuck? I was sharing an observation, and you choose to be an asshole.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    its always sad to see someone who tries to boost their self esteem by bashing on what other people enjoy. If I want to debate what villains i'd like to see in the movie with others, why do YOU care? Sad little geektard

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    I thought the first comment got "moderated"

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Wow batmancw...

    by Geektard_Smasher

    You're sort of tripping all over yourself to get your little words down there. Must be all shaky and spazzy on the keyboard. Relax bro, take a breath. It's all going to be allright. There there... You used two different posts to say close to the very same thing with a couple of little differences. Are you stroking out or something? Better go back to your Batman comics 3rd string rogues gallery and instead of stroke out stroke off to Bane and any other villain hacky 90's comic writers feed into your quivering little mouth. The superior fans here don't eat that shit, little man.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    How he looks is important

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Comics are a visual medium. As are movies. So if a character LOOKS stupid - as comic book Bane certainly does - it's a legitimate problem. Same with Venom. Also, Bane's name is stupid. In fact I'll go so far as to say the whole "breaking the bat" thing is stupid. It's like Superman dying - you know it's not going to be permanent, it's just much ado about nothing.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Where does he get those wonderful toys?

    by fathergreedosarducci

    In all the speculation about where Bane gets the Tumbler-- or maybe even a few of them-- I have been surprised no one has mentioned a character regarded by many of us (myself included) as one of the more glaring dangling plot threads from TDK: Mr. Coleman Reese. Reese, recall, had the blueprints for all the Lucius Fox-designed vehicles he found in the Wayne Ent. archives. He wanted money to keep quiet, so the character is definitely of a mercenary bent. While there's no evidence (so far) the character is back for TDKR, it's a possibility to keep in mind.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by Meadowe

    Batman seems hella depressed that Bane beat him...stole his tumblers, beat him physically and psychologically, etc. Then at the end we realize that Batman IS Bane...his subconscious creating Bane, which can double as a shortened version of his birth name Bruce Wayne, and maybe he wonders what would have happened if he would have stood alonside Ra's, and through Bane lives out this twisted what if fantasy. Bane even physically the opposite of Batman as far as costume...Batman hides everything except his mouth, Bane hides his mouth but reveals his eyes. I can't place it but I know that Nolan said or hinted they had come out with a great way to end the trilogyand Nolan's Memento kinda ended with the good guy being the bad guy, although admittedly this would be a stretch but I thought it would be an interesting route.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST


    by onezeroone

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Edit: Gotham City Impostors

    by onezeroone

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST


    by Meadowe

    idk if this counts, but during the standoff with the Joker you can clearly see signs from stores that say Sweet Home Chicago and I think starbucks when he's walking down the street with his machine gun.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    90's comics

    by hank henshaw

    90's comics get a bad rap, but mostly because Marvel and Image were utter shit... DC, not so much. With stuff like Morrison's JLA, Starman, Kingdom Come, Superman (except for the late 90's), Batman, PAD's Supergirl, Waid's Flash, Marz's run in Green Lantern, Preacher and the other Vertigo titles, it wasn't bad at all. It wasn't as good as the mid-to-late 80's, but certainly better than what DC got now, which is nothing except for the fanboy craze around Rainbow Lanterns and Batman Inc.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Earth Quake Machine....this will suck.

    by Shaun1138

    I called this a few weeks ago when the teaser trailer came out. The buildings in the trailer are crumbling. Like the water vaporizer in Begins the League of Shadows has come up with another way to take down Gotham. It is obvious once again some crap has been stolen from Wayne Industries RD department. Last time it was water vaporizer and now 3 modified tumblers and an earthquake machine. BOY OH BOY...are they going back to the well on this one. Not sure this will hold up to TDK......It might have Original Star Wars Syndrome with Empire being the best in the series we may have already gotten out Empire with TDK.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 1:25 a.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure the Heinz field logo......

    by BlackBriar

    will be covered up or have a complete fictional name change. All Steelers will have different names on their uniforms. You guys need to clam down! the movie is not coming out next week. Nolan knows this is a well known stadium and its team. I'm certain he will change it all.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Mattman, you're not too shabby yourself

    by Continentalop

    You have different taste from me, but you probably know your Batman way more than I do.

  • GO TO PAGE 12 if it doesn't automatically go to it...she looks like she's wearing some league of shadows type stuff imo.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Hate Bane.

    by Eli_Cash

    But", the objection goes, "Bane is also really smart.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Fucking quotes. that was a long post.

    by Eli_Cash

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:47 a.m. CST

    I hate Bane.

    by Eli_Cash

    Even when Knightfall came out, and I was just a kid, I knew his story was just a gimmick to boost sales. Bane just a generic tuff guy. *No, he's smart too* Really? How? *He was classically educated* So? That's just backstory. It's the equivalent of the writers TELLING you he's smart. What does he DO that's smart. *He unleashes all of Batman's other foes on him to weaken him. Then he steps in and defeats him* That's lame. It doesn't take a genius to come up with a plan like that, and it diminishes Bane as a threat in himself. So yeah. Bane sucks. And I don't think Nolan really cares about this movie. First he said that he didn't want to do another Batman movie. Then WB insisted, and made him a deal he couldn't resist. But then he starts talking the movie down, saying that the third film is always the weakest, he doesn't think he can top the last movie, etc. Then he says that this will be the last of his Batman series. Then announces that Bane will be the villain. basically he doesn't give a shit about this movie. He's just found an out. He's found a character that can kill or maim Batman without the fans getting pissed, since it already happened in the comics.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:49 a.m. CST

    batman the Animated series had the best Bane iteration

    by Phategod2

    Intelligent as he was destructive I've never seen a villain like that before.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 3:28 a.m. CST

    That's is Nolan's great idea. Don't get too excited.

    by Eli_Cash

    A way out. Nolan's talents are being wasted on this series, and he knows it. Unfortunately, fanboy demand for established properties is insatiable, and the studio's demand for fanboy money is equally high. So he needs a sure fire way to stop. This is it. He can kill Batman in a way that is loosely consistent with the comics, and in a way that can be seen as thematically consistent with what he's already established. The first movie is about Batman becoming a hero. TDK was about him becoming a "villain". This one is about him becoming a martyr. Not very satisfying, but I'm happy for Nolan. Plus I think that this weak finale, combined with the impending train wrecks of the Spiderman and Superman reboots may well kill the comic movie craze for a while. And that'll make me kinda happy. Original stories will have a better chance of being greenlit when established properties cease to be "sure things".

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 3:37 a.m. CST

    I watched The Prestige again the other night

    by alexander

    and i think it might be the best thing Nolans done. Bane will be a great continuation of The Joker from 'Prestige' like antics and duality if you like; i just hope Nolan shuts up all the moaners by proving why Bane is a great Villain and much more smart and insightful than a lot of people seem to be giving him credit for. If i remember Knightfall correctly, it's his observations about Batman, not just his actions to break him, that make Bane interesting as he's written. It looks so far in TDKR like Bane will have much more to do in terms of putting his thoughts and basic perspective on life, breaking Bats, and what makes him tick, into action. We'll see...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST


    by Xen11

    That is the intention. Bane is supposed to be what Batman would be if he joined Ra's. Though it doesn't have to be a twisted fantasy. It's just his arch-villain. Everything will be symbolic, which means that people will hate it because most people lack intelligence. Much like how in Spider-Man 3, Venom was arch-villain to Spider-Man and Venom represented his responsibility as Spider-Man and Sandman was his guilt for his Uncle's Death. That really was the proper way to end Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. Beautiful film, but retards won't understand that.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Bane is not clasically educated

    by Autodidact

    He was raised from birth in a third world prison. He educated himself by becoming the librarian and reading every book he could get his hands on. He's like the anti-Batman in many ways...not Bizarro batman, who would be dumb... anti-Batman, who is as smart and as tough and as single-minded as Batman.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Big Ben gets killed? Count me in!

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    matmann...Bay IS a master action filmmaker

    by Billy_D_Williams

    if not, who the fuck is? some of his recent stuff is a bit jerky, but Bad Boys, The Rock, Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, etc, say what you want about those films in the story dept., but the action in those films is top notch, well shot, coherent, flows well, visceral, exciting...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    oh, you mean Ben Rapistburger?

    by Astronut

    Can't stand that ugly a-hole. I hope the Browns crush him this season.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Death of comics movies pave way for well-made originals or indies?

    by Darth Macchio

    Really? There's actually thinking that says if and when the manic craze over comic book properties and the crazy absurd cash garnered from comic book franchises (good or bad) will somehow find it's way to our beloved independent directors and original properties? That's treating comic book movies as the problem when they are merely the symptom (though I love them for the most part so we'll just have to disagree there) but the problem isn't what we're given alone but that the studios have caught the same bug everybody else has in the modern business world: MORE That's it. More. Just more. Greater profits year over year. That's it. Everything else is of secondary concern. PROFIT is GOD! And more profit is more god, etc. It's that simple and that stupid and banal. Just MORE. If independent films and truly original properties started making boatloads of cash (Transformers/Twilight type cash - billions) then we'd get those movies but you and I both know that's not going to happen. Which is probably a good thing as that mindless attention would inevitably kill originality and obviously is an oxy-moron when considering "independent" type films. No, Hollywood will desperately cling onto whatever already tests well and sells tickets and will not remotely consider risking millions on something unproven (original). I'd expect it to get much worse before it gets better...but there is hope!!! Just not in Hollywood... Look at modern independent music. The advent of the internet and home recording technology has opened the world of music up in fantastic ways (even if the old school industry paradigm still clings with claw-like hands to the old "label profits first screwing over the artist" bullshit) and we might get this type of "renaissance" with film as technology improves and regular people with minimal investment can obtain the tools to really make great and truly independent works. They sharpen their skills, they come up with great original ideas, they find genuine artists (not super movie stars) willing to make art without the co-requisite giant paychecks (the one current deal-breaker to this particular optimism - if they won't, fuck em, there are plenty of talented actors out of work - they've been replaced by these reality show idiot-nincompoop asswipes anyway!). It will take time but sooner or later, business never maintains a hold over creative paradigms - they will always break free from their arbitrary economic constraints... I hope anyway...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Got bad news for you darth macchio

    by Continentalop

    But part of the problem of film IS the independent movement and how cheap technology is. No longer is their a filter keeping most of the really talentless people out. Instead now anyone can go out and try and shoot a movie. And unfortunately, that means that people with talent, and good independent films, are buried and lost amongst the barrage of crap that gets made each year. Think of it like If you're a girl there might be 100's of great guys for you to date on that site, but unfortunately you have to wade through 1,000s of loser and creeps (many of them probably here at this site) before finding one person who you find interesting. Who wants to do that? So big name property blockbusters are not going to die or be replaced by original, independent films anytime soon unless we can find a filter that can separate the crap from the good so we don't have to wade through them ourselves.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Bane revceives classical education from an old priest

    by Katet19

    He receives intense tutelage from an old priest who he winds up killing if I remember correctly. He's like a jacked up Edmund Dantes

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Bane is too Small!!!

    by Richard

    despite the fact that he's 4 inches taller than Batman, yet weighs the same...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    *shorter, not taller...

    by Richard

    WTF was I thinking,,,

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Continental - very true...but...

    by Darth Macchio

    ..yet good independent music still tends to rise to the top - primarily by word of mouth. Of course the new technology makes everybody think they're the next great whatever (like when Carlin said the portable video camera turned every common dipshit asshole into Fredericco Fellini, etc) and the mediocrity will fall by the wayside as it deserves...who would support it to keep it going? Even still - that has to be better than the industry deciding what *they* think we'll like, yes? What *they* think will sell? I just can't believe that taking the ball way from those who create nothing and stand between the audience and the artist as ever being a bad thing. That industry paradigm is obsolete in the music world and, hopefully, will become less dominating in the film world as time goes on. Hopefully, we'll get thru the krapola...hopefully people will support it (I think this is more important than sorting thru the crap - the crap might scare support off but support will filter the crap inevitably, etc - kinda a positive/negative feedback loop at the same time)... Either way, it will be very interesting to see where it ultimately goes...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Oh and Anne Hathaway responded to "fan" comments...

    by Darth Macchio

    ..about the "Catwoman" costume shots out online (seems a little snooty to me)'s on mtv for chrissakes...surely it would spawn a deliciously pointless tb'er banter for a few hundred, if not thousand, posts, no? But nothing?

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    continentalop...good points.

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i;ve been saying that for years. Youtube is seen as this savior of art and good cinema, but that's deceptive because there is SO MUCH CRAP that it can be tiring attempting to get through all that to something good. so you end up relying on recommendations from friends or the media...the problem is most people have little to no taste at all, so you end up just seeing crap with a bit better production value and the measure of what's "good" starts to diminish very very quickly. the guy who was signed to Sam Raimi's company to direct the new Evil Dead movie is a prime example. He made a short which was nothing more than a glorified FX reel, no story, no acting, no sense of dramatic intrigue, just giant robots stomping through a city...this guy was recruited by one of the top filmmakers in the world as a FILM DIRECTOR, meaning he's someone supposedly capable of working with actors, pulling a good performance, using dramatic pacing and editing to make a good movie, based on a short where he demonstrated NONE of those qualities...his short is now the standard other wannabes will look at to get signed as a Hollywood a result the quality of what's acceptable declines even further. If the top filmmakers are hiring guys like this, who is guarding our can we ever hope to see more classics like E.T., 2001, There Will Be Blood, Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, Casablanca, Citizen kane, etc, if they keep hiring guys like this??? I guess it boils down to the really talented ones having to be even more lucky to break through all the crap.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    darth macchio

    by Eli_Cash

    At the very least Nolan will be able to give us more stuff like Prestige and Inception. But I think more will happen than that. Right now it seems like a director has to go the Nolan route and do a comic movie to prove himself before he can get any kind of budget. When comic movies fail, this will change. It'll free up funding. The studio's greed is not irrational, and they won't continue to throw money at an unprofitable genre. We'll still have the problem of remakes of other movies tho.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by batmancw

    Proving once again how fucking stupid and obnoxious you are eh? I clearly wrote(in my "cool" comment) that I thought the first comment had been "moderated " because it didn't show up so I wrote a more moderator friendly version, and then the first one showed up. I'll WILL concede that the term I meant to use was "informed" versus "educated" because I was commenting specifically on the dozens of folks who have posted stuff with the preface: "I don't know anything about Bane, but..." Plus, I actually meant it in a joking way, and the person I was responding to and I had a fine convo, and then YOU showed up, typing away furiously from your momma's basement and proved repeatedly what a fucking asshole you are. Sad little geektard Can't read and stupid to boot.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Call it the 'Beiber' syndrome...

    by Darth Macchio

    ...and I would agree that it's a bit odd when an f/x "reel" is used as justification for hiring someone as a director for any project, much less a cultish and well-loved project like Evil Dead. But how long can that last if these chances are taken on those who cannot meet them? Is Justin Beiber talented or just something discovered on youtube and then industry contrived to coax the money from the parents of the chattering pre-teen girl numbers? But then Neill Blomkamp was given financial backing based on his short online film which ultimately became 'District 9'. Beiber shows the industry is watching...and Blomkamp shows that true talent is still rewarded... I guess, to an extent, it will still be a crapshoot but I still contend that the industry is so long past actually seeking and recognizing talent and backing their creative projects that something simply has to change. If the industry won't do it and we don't support the independents (either with straight backing or just patronizing with our viewership, etc) then it will be a continuing travail of very expensive and very loud shit amidst occasional big but not too big-budget gems (Rise of the Planet of the Apes?) and the smaller, much less expensive, genre treats.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    bane looks like a punk rock singer complete w/ a mohawk.

    by Orion

    Punk is dead. Joker was total grunge.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Bay has always been an atrocious action director

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy

    It shocks me how anyone thinks he's actually any good. His action has always been incoherent and lousy, like something out of a slick TV commercial for sports cars. That goes all the way back to Bad Boys and The Rock by the way, not just his more recent efforts. That is why I hate Bay most of all; it's not the fact that his films are vapid and deficient in all other areas, it's that the fact that the one thing he is feted as being - a master of action - he is fucking terrible at. His blocking, editing, and composition are utter garbage - and that's before we get to matters of emotional investment, suspense, tone and narrative through lines. He can't hold a candle to true masters of action like Cameron, McTiernan, John Woo, Verhoeven, etc.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Transformers 3 has a couple of the best action scenes in the history of film


    The freeway Transformer battle in Transformers 1 was absolute genius. The Optimus Prime battle in the forest of Transformers 2 was fucking sweet. The bridge car chase in Bad Boys 2 was very good. The action scenes in the Island were memorable. They might not be technically perfect, but his stylistic flourish makes up for it. The man is obviously a genius, there's no denying it.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Once again well said Turd

    by KilliK

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Anybody remember this Snickers commercial?

    by Triple_J_72

    ... Where a quarterback gets knocked down and the coach asks him questions to make sure he's OK?

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    So DKR is basically Sudden Death, just swap JCVD with Bale.

    by Onin Solstice

    Can't wait! Sudden Death was JCVD's best film and it's about time we get an update on such a great film. Complete with high tech cars and masked men to replace Powers Boothe's infamous menace. Here's to Nolan remaking a forgotten classic with a huge budget!

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    The real deal...

    by HB_Dad

    ...Bane has broken Batman and has brought his broken body before an audience at the stadium to brag about it and to unveil Batman's true identity which would destroy the man himself. From here, he wreaks havoc on Gotham, beats the crap out of Gordon, and this leads to both Wayne and Gordon in the hospital with Bruce Wayne's identity exposed and clinging for life as a badly beaten Gordon tries to persuade Wayne to get the strength to fight again because Batman must rise again...

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    it's not bruce/batman as the hostage


    this is BEFORE the fight we see outside the stadium with the sports fans and thugs vs the cops. but i think bane thinks he has batman...i just think it's someone else he beat up that was wearing a batman outfit...(joseph gordon levitt)

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Did anyone else say Black Sunday?

    by CherryValance

    I forgot to say this reminded me of that.

  • Aug. 11, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST

    I took a CLOSER PHOTO OF SET/"Weather machine"

    by Nial Took this after Hardy ventured off to please the crowd. This is a nice angle from directly behind the crew/talent and you can see a good shot of the "machine" Bane wheels out to the right of the frame -Seacrest out

  • Aug. 13, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Bane too small?

    by Mechasheeva

    Camera angles and standing on boxes have millions forgetting that Tom Cruise is nearly a midget. I'm willing to bet that Nolan has similar tricks in store for making Hardy's Bane look like the hulking badass he's meant to be.