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FULL METAL JACKET OF THE PLANET OF THE APES? Rupert Wyatt Discusses Sequel Possibilities!

Published at: Aug. 8, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST by Nordling

Nordling here.

I'm very happy for Rupert Wyatt, WETA, even Fox Studios for the success of RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES.  It's a terrific movie deserving of its box office and acclaim.  So naturally, a sequel is probably coming down the pipe.  Bleeding Cool has a forthcoming interview with Wyatt, where he talks about the distinct possibilities of a sequel, and the ideas he may have.  The way it is now, I'm of the opinion that the original PLANET OF THE APES would work in conjunction with this film as it is, but now that Fox sees the potential in box office for a new series, I hope they give any possible sequel enough care and let these guys do their thing.  As far as the sequel goes, Wyatt's been thinking about it:

There’s so much we could do… The ideas I’ve had are all sorts of things, ranging from FULL METAL JACKET with apes… you could start this story again eight years from where we left off, the next generation of apes, those that have come from our protagonists, perhaps going in to a conflict with humans and showing real fear, in the same way as going into war for young soldiers in this day and age, telling their story. Or how apes are taking over cities, and being moved into human environments and having to interact with them and deal with things that are part of our culture and understand and evolve through them. Spies that are in the employ of the apes, working against humans and humans maybe existing underground, because that’s a way they can avoid the virus, coming up above ground wearing gas masks, and maybe that’s what dehumanises them.

FULL METAL JACKET with apes?  Or how about SAVING PRIVATE RYAN?  Imagine the ape armies storming the beaches of Normandy... I'd pay to see that.  I think this world's ripe to revisit and if there's any kind of continuation with the Caesar/Will Rodman story I'm curious to see where that would go.  Obviously there will be some immune to the new engineered virus, and how they become the subservient race we see in the original films would be interesting to see as well.  RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES turned out far better than expected, so now whoever makes the sequel has an opportunity to keep this story going.  I think it took a lot of luck and perseverance by the filmmakers to get this movie made and it could easily go south in a hurry if they aren't careful.  But I'd love to see another good series of films come from this most revered of franchises.

Nordling, out.

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  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    first

    by LUIS

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    U MANIACS!!

    by D

    U blew it up!!

  • Rourke should play Miller´s Batman and have Lewis play the Joker. with Megan Fox as the robin.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    WHY DIDN'T YOU WRITE SAVING PRIMATE RYAN?

    by Apocol0id

    IT WOULDVE BEEN GOLD!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Normandy does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Imagine the ape army storming the beaches of Normandy? Fuck Nord. Thousands of deceased servicemen just turned in their graves. Show some respect... perhaps you'd like Auschwitz Apes too? (plus you already had CG Clone Trooper vs CG Wookie PRIVATE RYAN... and it was shit).

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    apocol0id, Saving Primate Ryan - zing! Nice one.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    No.....

    by Monkeybrains

    ...way did I expect to turn out as excellent as it did. <p> PLEASE FOX..Trust the filmmakers and let them make the sequels with limited interference from your monkeys in suits.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    apocol0id

    by Nordling

    Dammit... you're right. Awesome.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    What if the virus creates the mutants from BENEATH?

    by Uncle Stan

    If it increased apes to human-level intelligence then why couldn't it create the super-powered human mutants from Beneath the Planet of the Apes?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    You could also have SHAVING PRIMATE RYAN if you wanted to go torture porn with the franchise...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    extreme want.

    by Aidan

    soon please.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Continue Caesar's story

    by krabklaw

    Maybe skip a few years between movies, but the movie should be about Caesar's futile efforts to have the apes co-exist with humans.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    It'd be great

    by jasper Stillwell

    If they took this in a different direction from the original franchise or at the very least built the world in the future from lots of different angles - that would very cool indeed. Each film could be stand-alone, different characters and linked only tangentially to get towards the future that Taylor lands in. Even then we could abandon the original POTA design scheme entirely and go in a different direction for that future (maybe more in line with Boulle's orignal idea?) After all we've seen that 1969 version already, let's be creative with this!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    SAVING PRIMATE RYAN

    by melikeemovies

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    WHOOPS!

    by melikeemovies

    Just saw someone else beat me to this joke. Oh, well.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    CAESAR IS PULLED OVER IN LA AND BEATEN BY POLICE!!!

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    THE DARK APE RISES

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    THE APES STRIKE BACK

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Ben Hur with Fur

    by StatelyWayneManor

    Ape gladiator games!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    I've just never liked this series...

    by Rob

    Apes are just too close to humans, and humans already evolved from apes... I'd rather they rebooted with a different animal evolving and gaining dominance over mankind. Dogs? or what about all the different large cats?? instead of chimps, apes, orangutangs... you could have lions, tigers, cheetahs, etc.. walking around on two legs like Thundercats! or The Simpsons, had a great episode where the dolphins (pretty smart already) took over. Come on Hollywood, this shit writes itself! and yes, before you ask, I'm a little high right now...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    I think the next film should be about ape kids

    by Geektard_Smasher

    out on an adventure like the lads from Stand by Me. They could call it "Porch Monkeys."

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Burton's ape film was on last night

    by Geektard_Smasher

    Horrible, horrible, horrible film. The Ah-Nuld POTA film planned years before that in the 90's sounded more like the original. Wish that had happened. Instead, Ah-Nuld went on to fuck an ugly ape and get divorced by his wife, who I a pretty sure is an evolved shrew.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    In the next movie

    by Rob

    the Apes star in a "movie within a movie" called... Take the Monkey and Run

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    apocol0id

    by Hipshot

    "Saving Primate Ryan" is one of the best puns I've seen on this site. Respect!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    and their favorite Rap song will be

    by Rob

    Chimpin' Aint Easy

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    That sounds so stupid

    by Cobb05

    So the movie would follow a group of soilder apes as they kill humans? Shouldn't the movie be about human soldiers who are now being outnumbered by ape? The point of Planet of the Apes is that we want to root for the humans. What's next a zombie movie where we want all the zombies to eat everyone?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    How about a fucking SPOILER ALERT???!!

    by ShiftyEyedDog

    I guess I know exactly how this one ends now

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    GhostBusters with Apes!

    by purplemonkeydw

    Apes gotta eat! Can't wait to see Beverly Hills Ape, or Legally Chimp!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    shiftyeyeddog

    by Rob

    Really?? How did you think it might end?? Go fuck yourself..

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Andy Serkis is the new Roddy McDowall.

    by sweeneydave

  • along with Xmen, Cap and Thor (yea I liked it)

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Theme song for the next one:

    by Rob

    Primate Eyes... are watchin' you.... John Oates can make a cameo, he already looks kind of like a monkey anyway, not as much as a black guy, but still...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    The original screenplay for '68 POTA

    by annie_michael_hall

    The original screenplay had a more futuristic society that the apes were living upon Taylor landing. It was only when the director came aboard that he decided to make it a more primitive society for story and budget reasons. So I guess re-envisioning apes society is someplace to go in the new franchise. Although I've always loved how the apes eschewed human "futuristic" tech in favor of a more primitive existence.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Question

    by Rob

    Was Michael Clarke Duncan the gorilla in this one as well? I'm pretty sure that was him.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    GOODBYE MR. CHIMPS

    by Darth Busey

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST

    A CLOCKWORK ORANGUTUAN

    by Darth Busey

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Have you seen that internet porno,

    by Rob

    Two chimps, One banana ?? Nasty...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    or the family drama about the monkey

    by Rob

    with a lot of kids in the 70's : Ape is Enough

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    SHE WORE A YELLOW GIBBON

    by Darth Busey

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST

    GONE WITH THE TAMARIND

    by Darth Busey

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    PLANET OF THE APES 2: THE APES OF WRATH

    by Darth Busey

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    The Amazing Spider-Monkey

    by Rob

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    What's Eating Gilbert Ape?

    by Rob

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST

    C.H.I.mP.S.

    by SteveGoBoom

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST

    your days of finger banging...

    by fred

    old mary jane orangutan, ARE OVER!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I don't believe any movie with monkeys

    by Rob

    where they are not throwing their shit...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    KISS OF THE SPIDER MONKEY

    by SteveGoBoom

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Monkey

    by Rob

    That just happened...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    They should not do any sequels

    by Phategod2

    Rise.... works as a perfect prequel to the original Planet of the apes, everything was there. Anything that was missing from that movie to the landing of Charleton Heston, I can fill in with my own imagination. I swear Rise... actually made the Original Planet of the Apes a better movie.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Marvel Apes

    by SteveGoBoom

    Maybe they could adapt this into a movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Apes

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    12 Monkeys or Spanking the Monkey.. wait...

    by Rob

    those are already real movies.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:35 p.m. CST

    GORILLAPOCALYPSE NOW

    by GeneralJackCosmo

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    I'm with a continuation on this one.

    by Rorschach1

    The moment that film ended, I had no idea how to feel about it. Visually stunning and entertaining for sure, but something vastly different than expected. What I'd like to see is a follow-up film that would utilize set pieces of Rise. For instance, the red wood forest. Bloody little food in that place, so say that Caesar's coexist leadership sends the apes he leads toward mutiny led by the scarred chimp from Rise. Also, simultaneous to the political drama of the apes, a separate story begins in which Will is tasked with creating a vaccine that can stop the 112 virus. Perhaps have the virus get so out of hand that Will and wife flee for New York City. Final Scene: the destruction of the Statue of Liberty (accidentally caused by man, not ape.)

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    When Apes jerk off (and you know they do)

    by Rob

    do they call it Spanking the Man?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    apocol0id

    by gabbygall

    You sir, are a genius.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Roots..

    by gabbygall

    Oh, they already made that.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    For inspiration....

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    The producers, director, and writers should let the original novel by Pierre Boulle inform the next movie, or trilogy, or whatever.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    THE GREAT ESC-APE

    by davidwebb

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    THE DAMNED DIRTY DOZEN

    by davidwebb

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    A PRIMATE LITTLE WAR

    by davidwebb

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Planet of the Apes II

    by fred

    sorry, i'm out of ideas

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Humans immune to the virus

    by Bass Ackwards

    Would also the become super geniuses right?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Love the idea of large cats revolting...

    by Andrew Coleman

    That would be sweet.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Every Which Ape But Loose

    by cutest_of_borg

    Right turn, Philo.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    THE APES OF WRATH

    by cutest_of_borg

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    A CLOCKWORK ORANGUTAN

    by Karl Hungus

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    APE-OCALYPSE NOW

    by Karl Hungus

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST

    HAIRY LYNDON

    by Karl Hungus

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The Grodd-father

    by Adam13

    Simian Birch Last Orangatango in Paris Bonny and Clyde (as in, "Right turn, Clyde")

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    RE: Chimpin' Ain't Easy

    by kidicarus

    Genius!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    THE FECES AND THE FURIOUS

    by Karl Hungus

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    any Spike Lee movie, really...

    by Rob

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST

    OK... Monkey Firefighters that run a

    by Rob

    prostitution business out of the Firehouse... Chimps and Hose Think about it...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Four teenage apes are in Fort Lauderdale

    by Rob

    on Spring Break trying to get laid.... coming this summer- Monkey Business!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Saving Primate Ryan

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    One Flew Over the Capuchin's Nest

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    DavidWebb

    by smatt584

    The Damned Dirty Dozen FTW!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    orgutan with typewriter

    by emeraldboy

    the hairy knowles...story

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Silverback Mountain

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    simian like it hot

    by emeraldboy

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Gorilla's in the Mist...oh, wait.

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Silverback to the Future

    by Rob

    starring Monkey J. Fox

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I really liked this movie. Can't wait for the sequels. Batman who?

    by DonkeyBalls

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    The Phantom Ape-ace (get it? MEN-ace...APE-ace...bah!)

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    When Hairy Met Sally

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Baboon

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    You know. Cocoon...with monkeys!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    harrison_fords_taint

    by Nerd Rage

    I know you wish this movie was about The Rise of the South but apes taking over is more plausible.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    The Madness of King Kong.

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    nerd rage

    by Rob

    Yeah, I'm the first person to compare black people and monkeys... lighten up asshole. And I'm not even American, so you are wrong anyway.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Swingers

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy...YOU WIN!

    by amrcanpoet

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Swingers is pretty damn good

    by Rob

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Showgorillas?

    by Roketopunch

    Starchimp Troopers? .... tough crowd

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    A bunch of monkeys throw the World Series

    by Rob

    Ape Men Out

  • The gorillas want war with humans, the chimps want peace and the orangutans just want to smoke weed.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Charlton Heston's favorite citrus flavored drink

    by Rob

    powder: Orangutang

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    What the... SPOILER ALERT, PLEASE!

    by Acappellaman

    This article could have been written without any words about how the humans fight back against the apes in ROTPOTA. Now I know they engineer a virus to repel the apes. Wonderful. Thanks AICN! Hopefully it isn't as big a spoiler as this article makes it sound.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    I'm with you, shiftyeyeddog

    by Acappellaman

    I'm kinda pissed right now.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    acappellaman

    by Rob

    Here is another spoiler for you... you will die lonely and sad.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Nordling fucking spoilers

    by Franck

    "the next generation of apes": For those who haven't seen it, did you have to fucking partially spoil it?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Icarus

    by bill

    The Movie is excellent on a lot of levels. (some spoilers ahead) The WETA SFX/make-up, a plot that gave the benefit of the doubt that the audience was intelligent enough to follow, some clever references to the originals (Caesar screaming "nnnNO!" has got to be my favourite) and enough breadcrumbs to follow to a possible sequel. The mutation of the virus explains how a few Apes can overwhelm billions of Humans (yup, I know...humans are apes too). But the references to Project Icarus, man's journey to Mars, caught my attention, and ends with the "Lost In Space!" news headline. It doesn't take a detective to figure out where/when That ship is going to show up again. A good series would go 10 years later, 100 years then 1,000 and Icarus returning into the age of Apes hunting humans on horseback for sport.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    flynn-lives

    by Rob

    All you "You spoiled a movie that everyone has known about since the 1960's" are really whiny bitches! No offense.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST

    a simian film

    by vulturess

    uncut, unrated, unflung.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Ape Centipede.

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Silence of the Apes.

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    The Amazing Spider-ape

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    The Terminator

    by rahtard

    Wait, that one was abot a machine that looked like an ape.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Ape-atar

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Gone With the Ape

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    The Karate Ape.

    by rahtard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I am sympathetic to spoilers

    by Bass Ackwards

    I often go to extremes to avoid them (went to see Harry Potter and put in head phones and closed my eyes to not get any hint of Dark Knight Rises). I even avoid visiting sites like Superhero Hype and Badass Digest for their tendency to put the pictures right in the headline. But you have to take some responsibility. If you don't want a movie to be spoiled for you, then DON'T click on an article about its SEQUEL! Especially if you apparently consider whether the apes survive a spoiler (but in that case, you may want to avoid reading the title of the movie). Also this article has a spoiler tag.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    harrison_fords_taint / bass ackwards

    by Franck

    Didn't want to know which way the movie went, it's not because it 's been done over and over the same way that this one had to/didn't see any spoiler tag, still don't

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    It's like BLACKHAWK DOWN, but with chimps!

    by FluffyUnbound

    OK, kinda crossing an old AICN meme into the joke here with this one.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Not to bad.

    by Josh

    I digged this movie.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    @bass ackwards

    by Franck

    ...and it's not about whether the ape survives or not, it's about who wins this round...

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Well, to repeat myself

    by Bass Ackwards

    If you don't want a movie spoiled, you shouldn't be reading about its sequel. That said, if spoilage isn't about whether the apes survive or not, because spoiler, obviously they do, the line "next generation of apes" isn't any kind of spoiler at all.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    RE: rorschach1

    by R.

    We already have something that can undo the intelligence bump in apes given by the virus: Jersey Shore marathons.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Virus? Thanks for the spoiler!

    by catlettuce4

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Here's another spoiler: Bruce Willis is a ghost!

    by FluffyUnbound

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    And Soylent Green is people!

    by FluffyUnbound

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Maria marries the Captain

    by FluffyUnbound

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Rocky loses in the first one but wins in the second one

    by FluffyUnbound

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Know how I avoid spoilers?

    by Jed

    I don't read articles about sequels to movies I haven't seen yet.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Apepocalypse Now

    by REDD

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Come on. Apes and Zombies must be next

    by HornOrSilk

    Ok, maybe not, but there is room for the disease to turn humans into a zombie-like state and make an Apes vs Zombies film.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE

    by zyuray2

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Spoiler bitches? Really?

    by Happyfat73

    Don't you morons know what that red box around the article link on the front page means? You know, the one that says "spoiler". </p> Anyone dumb enough to get spoiled in this article deserves to be spoiled. Fuck, no wonder the apes are takin over... They know what the red box means.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Apes on a Plane

    by tatoosh

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Mission: Chimpossible

    by DrBathroomMD

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    @happyfat73

    by Franck

    ..got it.The Red Box. So Red Box means you can't read the fucking article. Well fuck that. I guess the good apes have learned to fear the Red Box. Good boys.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    The Return of The Revenge Of The Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Of Doom

    by highfunctioningsociopath

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Ape Ventura: Homo Erectus Detective

    by Franck

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    A smart studio should make a KAMANDI movie.

    by Ivan_Mtl

    Thor, Captain America, and X-Men were all box office successes (and you just know that the Avengers movie is going to be huge), and The Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes is a wonderful surprise hit as well. It would seem to be a no-brainer to me to bring Jack Kirby's KAMANDI to the big screen, as he was the creator of the aforementioned comic book characters, and KAMANDI was directly inspired by the original Planet Of The Apes film starring Charlton Heston. The great thing about the comic book which made it different was that it was not just intelligent apes, but other species of animals as well. Hopefully, some smart studio exec will greenlight a Kamandi movie because, in Hollywood, nothing succeeds like success.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    RISE OF THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEYS!

    by lookylookymoontard

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Ceaser: The First Ape-venger!

    by jarjarmessiah

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie

    by twogunjames

    But I'll never know, because I ain't seeing this mother fucking movie. Ever.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST

    acapellaman--spoiler

    by dukeroberts

    What you stated in your post about what you understand the spoiler to be does not happen in the movie. Go see the movie with the assurance that you don't know how it ends.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST

    12 Angry Apes

    by SteveGoBoom

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    AVP: Apes vs People

    by jarjarmessiah

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    @dukeroberts

    by Franck

    Smartest post thus far. Thank you.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    How can this possibly tie into the orginal?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    In the orginal heston left earth in 1972 and in this film the heston type character (who ever it turns out to be) leaves in 2019 It's obviously not the same icarus that left, the only way Rise can be a true prequel to the 68 film is if major retconing is done in terms oif when heston and crew left earth

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST

    great fucking film! 99% PERFECTION

    by BILLY

    My only complaint is how sudden the ending is..however, I DID APPRECIATE hows there's no forced resolution, and how there was the virus(effect on humans) as a subplot that never really crossed into the MAIN PLOT(or the main characters), but would obviously bleed into sequels or quitely explain how else the apes would begin to dominate. I mean, the film is fucking brilliant on every level. THE CGI was good too.Sure, in SOME quick scenes, its not photo real..but in most scenes it's GRADE A work. If there isn't an oscar given to this film for effects, then the oscars be damned.see this film now!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    The Astronaut subplot

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    The sequel is obviously going to start with those Mars astronauts returning to earth and being virtually the only humans left alive.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    APErfect Storm

    by FastEddieBax

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    I want a Chimp version of 'The Big Chill'

    by AzulTool

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    THE SEQUEL'S ALREADY HERE...APES DO LONDON!!!

    by marineboy

    Honestly, watching Sky News looks like one long trailer to the movie :s

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    @flynnlives... You can read the article if you like.

    by Happyfat73

    However, to complain aout spoilers after such a signpost isn't exactly demonstrating the height of human intellect. Besides which, reading about possible story details for the sequel to a film you haven't seen yet... Are you new to the Internet by any chance?

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST

    The Manchurian Candidape

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Double Indemonkey

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    The Passion of Joan of Ape

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Bonzo With A Shotgun

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    The movie Monkeybone....

    by adml_shake

    is going to be completely different than the one the humans made. Back room rentals only...

  • You make it sound as if the filmmakers are like "Gee, people sure like our movie... Oh my gosh, guys, what if we do another one??"

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    The giant red SPOILER tag, the fact it's discussing a sequel

    by solanine

    How do you honestly not expect spoilers to be in this article? How fucking stupid are some of you? Like someone else said, if you're really that dense to complain about spoilers in an article like this, you were asking for it in the first place. That said, totally stoked on a sequel. The differences between Caesar and the scarred one on diplomacy with the humans and the virus driving people underground and possibly creating the mutants from Beneath are both fantastic ideas. I loved the inclusion of the Icarus and Caesar's first word being, "No". Granted, the weight that should've held was destroyed by the forced, cheesy "dirty ape" line, but it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would. I also would've liked to have seen at least a few more sympathetic human characters. I'm pretty sure not everyone that works at an animal sanctuary hates animals or is a complete idiot. Minor complaints aside, it gets a solid 4/5.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Also, to say there's no connection to the original

    by solanine

    just because the date the Icarus took off is changed is asinine.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Remember the writers

    by jwadventure

    Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver not only wrote this film, they produced it. Wyatt was a hired gun with no writing credit on this. He should leave it up to them if he wants a successful sequel.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    the line was cheesy and spoilers

    by Bass Ackwards

    But I think it was a neat nod to the original, being that in the original that was the line that revealed to the apes that Heston could talk. And I still fully felt the weight of the no, just by the sound design of how it was delivered. I agree on the human characters, that was one of my marks against the film as well, each act has its own "bad guy" character and each one those "bad guys" is very thinly drawn and two-dimensional. Also, the decisions made in the lab sequence at the film's start are all frustratingly stupid. Fortunately its all brushed over so quickly that it can be forgotten, but it is that sequence that gets the movie's plot rolling. Like would they really just destroy 5 years worth of promising, evidence backed research because one wild animal...went wild? The one guy is supposed to be their chimp handler, and even after the chimp tries to break one of the lab techs arms they still think its a good idea to try and get the chimp out of its cage? Its revealed that the chimp went berserk because it was protecting a baby and not because of the treatments, but he reveals this important information to no one? Even though this one vital piece of information would not only keep him his job and continue research on a valuable world-changing drug, but it would also prevent him from having to put down all the other apes, which he very much doesn't want to do. Its like they decided they should just make every frustratingly stupid decision happen in the first five minutes, so the audience can get over it quickly and enjoy the rest of the movie, which is exactly what I did.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    solanine - that spoiler warning box wasnt on there earlier

    by ShiftyEyedDog

    so before you start wondering how people missed it - know your facts you useless cunt. as for the story being about a sequel, that doesnt automatically mean we should expect spoilers. there was a story about amazing spider-man 2 already, and that didnt have spoilers in it.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    The Spider-Man 2 article spoils Spidey

    by Bass Ackwards

    as much as this article spoils RotPotA. In that this one spoils that Apes survive, that one spoils that Spidey survives.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    teenage mutant ninja monkeys.

    by Warcraft

    I win the game.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST

    bass ackwards wins

    by solanine

    Either way, if you go into an article about a movie's sequel and don't even remotely expect to find any resemblance to spoilers for the first film, you're a straight up moron, spoiler tags or not. Oh yeah, Spider-Man lives, the Lizard dies, and Peter Parker makes out with the chick from Superbad.

  • The reason ROTPOTA works is because the audience sympathizes with Caesar. If you make the apes into the agressors, the audience won't sympathize with them. If you put Caesar in the William Wallace role in BRAVEHEART, it allows the apes to go all FULL METAL JACKET without losing the audience sympathy. Caesar may then be martyred by the humans while leading his kind to freedom. There. Done. I expect an executive producer credit in the final film.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I can already see Kim Kadarshain going out with Ceaser

    by chien_sale

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST

    harrison_fords_taint naw.... apes are scarier

    by MurderMostFowl

    The thing with Apes is that in reality, if you've ever been up close to Gorillas or full adult chimps that aren't all huggy lovey dovey all the time, there's a certain back of your mind fear that you can't easily get past. Respect for wild animals is one thing, but now remember that that same wild animal is also smarter than a 8 year old kid. To me there's that uncanny valley sory of thing where you look at a gorilla and realize that except for modern technology you'd pretty much get your ass handed to you if you even came face to face with a gorilla and probably would become the crew toy. I'm not saying other animals couldn't be just as creepy, but it feels like you'd have to suspend disbelief further into fantasy to have a Tiger evolve into bipedal, hyper intelligence in one generation.... or a dolphin or whatever. Apes, on the other hand, have a world pre built for them. We *ARE* apes.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST

    This script has been sitting at Fox for at least 5 years....

    by Jaster

    So don't give the director too m uch credit for an admittedly amazing film. All of his ideas for a sequel are completely fucking wretched. Personally I think there should be a brief montage of apes storming buildings, attacking outposts, etc., then the film proper begins in a wasteland cityscape. It would be more or less a remake of the fifth film, Battle for the Planet of the Apes, only it takes place in this bombed out city with humans skittering around, being rounded up and held captive. Caesar has won, but he doesn't know where to go from there. There is dissention in his ranks. Some apes are plotting against him because he doesn't want to exterminate the humans. James Franco is still around but he and Caesar have a very uneasy relationship. They genuinely care about each other, but Caesar doesn't trust Franco and Franco is petrified of Caesar. At the same time he believes Caesar can be a good leader if he hangs on to the human compassion he learned at his home. I'd probably give it Beneath the Planet of the Apes ending so we can start out the third film with the Mars Mission landing on a hostile, barren desert and essentially doing a remake of the original film. Fuck man, give me a retainer I'll write the shit out of that mother fucker!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Termin-ape-inator

    by Arcangel2020

    Well, I have to say that I was VERY pleased with the new movie! It is worthy of all the hype that has been given it and....yeah, the special effects when it comes to Ceasar and the other apes is just absolutely groundbreaking and cool as hell too! I also dug all the little references/wink-winks done concerning the original film(s)....there were some nice little comments and certain scenes in it that made me smile (you have to be an original series fan to have caught some of the subtle references...which was very cool I thought!) I am hoping and I did once comment here on Talkback when "Rise" was being made that I was hoping this would be a good film and the kickoff of a series of "Prequel" Ape Movies that detailed in depth the rise of the apes which was always alluded to/commented on in the original film series AND the 70ies Live action show too (how many people here remember it or even the saturday animated show? :) ) I think that the next (hopefully) several films are in good hands with the Director Rupert Wyatt should he choose to come back and make them. There is just so much awesome potential for a really kick ass series! Hey! Fox Studio Execs? If any of you guys read Harry's site and read the comments posted here? Give Mr. Wyatt what he wants carte blanch...he deserves it!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    ye not guilty,

    by Jaster

    Fuck it, I like your idea better! You can write the second film and I'll make the third and fourth!

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Yeah murdermostfowl, chimps are fucking dangerous.

    by Ted Knight

    I don't care if you have a gun, if they can be on you before you can use it, they will tear your arms off and break your spine. Now, obviously shooting them from a distance is different. But chimps are retarded strong. You know, like tard strength. But full tard strength.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    There ARE spoilers here

    by ShiftyEyedDog

    Yes, apes survive...duh. But the article discusses a virus, that affects humans and how they may have to hide to survive it. That's all news to anyone who hasnt seen it

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Rise of Fett - no one wants your shit ideas

    by ShiftyEyedDog

    and we dont WANT a remake of the other films. we like new stuff

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Remake INHERIT THE WIND

    by YackBacker

    Mind. Blown.

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Take

    by Jeff

    I don't think this needs a sequel, but I'm sure it'll get one. I love not knowing what Caesar will do and how the virus might wipe out humanity. The original movies I push aside since I never liked them -- thus for me they don't exist in this new, MUCH more interesting timeline. Will the smart apes develop new technologies based on left-behind human scraps like the internet and airplanes and 4G phones? They seemed to like living in the redwood forest, but that was only momentary respite. What if they became proficient at re-directing the path of human technologies? That might be compelling to watch, seeing what they might do. I really enjoyed "Rise" and would encourage Wyatt not to go for the obvious Full Metal Jacket angle. To me that's easy and kind of boring. I'd ask: what the fuck else might super-intelligent apes make their own in a post-human world? A war with humans -- blah! They're toast, so start a few years after that and give us something more kickass and thought-provoking. Thanks!

  • I'm surprised more viewers didn't seem to "get" that RISE wasn't some prequel to the old movies. It didn't connect with the old series, it didn't need to follow every plot line -- it was its own animal, so to speak, and it was terrific. The plot line was actually UPbeat, as opposed to the endless narcissism that permeated nearly every one of the old series' sequels. What I'd like to eventually see is the actual "world" established in APES -- the '68 film was so powerful and it seems a crime only that movie bothered to show us the "main" universe... BENEATH quickly went underground, ESCAPE and CONQUEST were near-present day/semi-futuristic films, and BATTLE was terribly hokey. But where they go from here is anyone's guess -- do you do a sequel set in a short time frame so you can bring Franco back? Or do you just forward in time to where Ceasar's offspring and the Apes civilization has established itself already? They've got some big decisions to work out, and I'm guessing people liked Ceasar's character so much, along with Franco, they'll probably go and make an actual sequel to those characters ultimately. Also would probably cost less than doing the big, blow-out APES film where the apes battle the mutants -- with some help from what fragments of humanity are left (like the Heston character).

  • Aug. 8, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    shiftyeyeddog - no one wants YOU

    by Jaster

    Unfortunately this has not led to you sucking on a tail pipe. And apparently people DO want remakes of the old films since this is a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and it made a shitload! Now get down on your hands and knees behind your dad's Volvo and SUCKY SUCKY!

  • If anything, the inevitable threequel will feature what happens to Caesar's and the other smart apes' offspring. The Braveheart metaphor is slightly comedic, but I could most definitely see Caesar's, the sympathetic "bipartisan" character, death at the end of a sequel being the fuel for an all out human/simian war as the third film. Plus, the end of said third film could have the Icarus landing on a barren, desert planet, connecting the franchises. That said, it would take something absolutely monumental to turn Earth into a barren wasteland as seen in the original, but hey, I don't get paid the big bucks to think of that sorta stuff. Give us a few references to the virus turning people into the mutants from Beneath with them subsequently heading underground and I'll be satisfied. I'm not against linking the original films to what's taking place now, like some of the above talkbackers. It's not a huge stretch, aside from some minor retconning.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    The sequel will obviously begin with

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    the Mars astronauts returning to earth

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST

    @shiftyeyeddog - spoiler box

    by Franck

    Thanks for keeping me sane, I was quite sure that the box wasn't there earlier either.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    @happyfat73 The Spoiler box...

    by Franck

    ...WAS NOT there earlier. So don't jump to conclusions too quick..

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    @krabklaw

    by rubbermonkey

    I agree that the story should continue with Caesar's attempt to co-exist with humans which ultimately fails leading to humans being vilified and hunted and the apes creating a mythology of superiority over humans. I hope they also avoid "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" type mutants.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    It's my birthday, rise_of_fett, could you please drop dead?

    by Rex Carsalot

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:02 a.m. CST

    where'd those anti-cg apes guys go?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    they still around? *crickets*? check this out lol Visual Effects created by BlueBolt for the first season of Game of Thrones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkptadiDABo&feature=player_embedded

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST

    I hate to break it to you, but...

    by jazzdownunder

    The movie is shit. Sorry, but there it is. PHONE: "Dr Jacobs, something terrible has happened. The audience in the theater is so choc-shit thick that they cannot possibly have understood what they have just seen, so I had better explain it to you for their benefit. Then, I had also explain what that means for the story." Never mind the HUGE plot gaps and the painful sequence of "X years later" cards we have to put up with as the world in the movie moves on to advance what it calls a "plot", in blatant disregard for any sense of what might REALLY happen as a consequence of the events portrayed to that point so far (not to mention the Steadfast Refusal of Dr Jacobs to alter his beard over an entire 10-12 year period.... now THAT is impressive commitment to facial topiary!) The movie was shit and simply did not earn the right to make the references to the originals that it did. Imagine how you would feel if TWILIGHT contained nods and VERBATIM QUOTES from NOSFERATU.... Yeah, it is THAT offensively bad.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Oh and... MAN IN A MONKEY SUIT

    by jazzdownunder

    I don't understand the collective hard-ons for Andy Serkis' "performance" in this movie. Neither I nor anyone I have spoken to who has SPENT $'s to see the movie (as opposed to writing a "review" for which they are EARNING $'s) had anything but mockery for the Caesar CGI. Not the quality of the model, but the realisation of that model as a believable chimpanzee in a human world. The scale of the Caesar model relative to the humans varies wildly from scene to scene and indeed even WITHIN scenes. Indeed, Caesar looked far more like a man in a monkey suit than ANY of the men in actual monkey suits did in ANY of the previous Apes movies. And at that moment when we're all supposed to go "O.M.G WOW!" (you know what I mean, right... NO?) well.. the entire theater SNORTED with laughter! I shit you not! It's THAT bad. Sorry, but it is.

  • fucktard

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    the budget was 80 million

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    this ain't Avatar. Hello? McFly?

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    If you think the CGI was bad. You have no clue

    by tradeskilz

    I bet you are the same drooling moron who still praise Gollum in LoTR as the apex of visual effects. It's painfull to know that you people are actually seeing the world in less fidelity than i am. Are you even aware of your own shortcoming? Or are you simply oblivious?

  • the act of reading it is itself looking for spoilers. sheesh

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Re: jazzdownunder

    by Jeff

    It's fine if you didn't like "Rise." That's cool. The plot, characters, whatever... it didn't sit well with you. All right. But your complaints about the CG are, I believe, unfounded and off-base. I think you're reaching hugely when you go there. The CG apes to most people were absolutely astonishing. Some of the best, most detailed, most expressive work ever seen in a theater. If you weren't buying it, that's fine, I guess, but it's obvious you won't ever buy anything CG. If you're a little more hopeful for the medium, however, while remaining critical of bad to horrible uses of it in recent films, then I think "Rise" was a breath of wonderfully artistic fresh air. Right from the start Caesar was "there," as were all the other apes. I wasn't thinking of him or them as anything but real. Quite an accomplishment, in my opinion. I think people here are simply giving WETA props for their work.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    CGI

    by MandrakeRoot

    The CGI was alternately excellent and cartoonish. What struck me as odd was that the work on Ceasar and other chimps was the worst if all of the primates. This was made up for by the facial work Ceasar, which while not flawless, good enough to emote on a very real level. The best work was on Maurice and that big ass King Kong gorilla. Also do have to say, the close-up shots of monkey hands were amazingly life-like. The biggest problem was the weightlessness of the apes that just didn't feel right. As for the film, quite entertaining if not wholly remarkable. The drama was very forced, with evil humans for no reason then to get us on Ceasars side. To think an ape-hating, borderline sadistic fuck would be employed at an ape sanctuary is ridiculous. The humans in general were mostly lifeless and idiotic, changing attitudes on a dime just cause the plot needs them to. It was hard to be emotionally affected when only one character sells it, and that character was a chimpanzee. I also must say the "NO!" line was pretty groan-inducing. My biggest issues however lie with the 113 strand. Besides the fact that it for some reason affected humans so negatively but not apes (why is that? Pretty big question glossed over) the handling of it was incomprehensibly stupid. Instead if doing injections like he did countless times to his dad, they opt to make it airborne. They have NO idea what could happen, but fuck it, let's release a bunch of gas into the air. Then when the chimp handler inhales a shit-ton, there's zero concern or follow-up. You'd imagine the safety precautions at such a place would be advanced and strongly enforced. I could look past this stuff and just be entertained so it wasn't a deal-breaker. It just happens that when you begin to actually think about what little plot the film had, it begins to unravel. 

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:44 a.m. CST

    About apes in Normandy (or in Auschwitz)

    by Suskis

    Learn the lesson: "Satire is tragedy plus time. You give it enough time, the public, the reviewers will allow you to satirize it." - Lenny Bruce it is correct to laugh at everything. you usually just have to wait for the corpse to turn cold. that's why Amy Whinehouse jokes where not appropriate: as soon as she was found dead, jokes flourished everywhere. but Normandy and Auschwitz.. it's just dead people. if the lesson is learnt, you can have a laugh about it.

  • I also liked the little touch of the manned rocket being lost in space to refer to Charlton Heston's mission. However, even with a virus to wipe out the majority of the human population, they need to explain in a sequel how the remaining intelligent humans devolved into the mute savages they are in the original movie.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I consider this a prequel.

    by flax

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    No, Normandy and Auschwitz are not funny

    by corplhicks

    and will never be funny. Nor the 100+ other concentration camps, nor the other 100+ places where the Allies fought to defeat the Nazi regime. Somethings are just not funny and won't ever be, except perhaps to the few, uncaring, cynical morons out there who show no reverence for anything important.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Sequel setup

    by corplhicks

    No one is going to really care about the "middle film" set a few years from now with humans dying and the 50 or so apes in the forest in Northern California swinging from trees; again no ape ever has existed then side by side using modern technology; none; and none of those apes will come out of the trees and know how to shoot a gun, drive a car, etc.. So seeing the "viral fall of man" i.e., that Will Smith movie a few years ago, the Omega man, The Stand and who knows what else doesn't need apes. What the new movie needs to do is show the last 5 minutes of the current movie. Fade out. Then say 500 years.... then fade in to a wrecked earth with various ape villages that exist in various forest like parts of North America with a very small percentage of humans alive in cities barely able to function but thriving nonetheless. They could show that. Another possible sequel could center around the Icarus which is lost, hence knows nothing about the recent events, nor the virus and they could do what would basically be a remake of POTA, have it return to Earth 2000 years from now to see that the human survivors of the virus now have progressively diminishing intelligence and are basically servants of the Apes and how these future humans function in that society. Evidence of human culture is everywhere around them so there's no denying that humans were first, unlike in POTA where they really danced around these facts as well as the existence of Apes all over the world, etc.. but their acceptance and the prejudice against them, etc.. would possibly be interesting, especially if at some point a healthy, thriving population of humans is found-- that would and could be the big twist; that the tiny percentage of humans who remained had two groups themselves those partially immune to the virus who just mentally deteriorate over time and those who are totally immune and hiding in small compounds and communities in areas apes don't go, deserts, cities, etc... So now you have advanced apes, dealing with a minority of smart humans the exact opposite of the current movie and what do you do with them or to them, or do you leave them alone etc... That would be good too. Maybe both movies would be good.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    London

    by Jayeskimo

    The real version of 'Rise of the planet of the Apes' What a bunch of morons.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    They should call it Next Friday

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    o wait - they did that already.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Cotton_McKnight

    by Hipshot

    No, the film didn't show most of humanity dying off. It DID show the virus spreading, but we 1) have no idea of the mortality rate of the virus 2) Have no idea how quickly, or if, humanity will be able to contain the contagion 3) have no idea how quickly, or if humanity will be able to create an antivirus. So the screenwriters can do whatever they want.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Humanity doesn't have to die off.

    by Baked

    That graphic at the end just shows where the virus spreads to.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    @Cobbelius: Did you read my post? It wasn't the CGI...

    by jazzdownunder

    .. it was the performance of the man in the mo-cap suit. 90% of the time Caesar's performance (NOT the model) was simply NOT a convincing chimp. It looked far more like a mentally handicapped human. Go to a zoo sometime, take a look at some real chimps, and then tell me with a straight face that Caesar was well realised. In the '68 original and Burton's remake this isn't as important because the apes are already evolved, so they wouldn't and shouldn't be expected to be *exactly* like the apes they evolved from. This doesn't apply to Caesar - he's a chimp. A brainy chimp, but still only a chimp. My only other complaint about the CGI per se was the wildy varying scale. In one scene Caesar was gamboling with the humans at a child like size, and in the same scene a few moments later was almost the same size as those humans. Distractingly so. From child to adult in the blink of an eye. (I am firmly in the camp that says that if you notice these things as they happen in front of you, then something in the movie simply isn't working). Now, it may be that this was actually two separate scenes supposed to have been separated by one of those "N years later" cards, but which were spliced together to try to make the story make sense and they couldn't afford or didn't want to redo the CGI. But it wasn't the only occasion where Caesar's scale changed dramatically. As a piece of CGI, yeah the chimps were great visually. No argument. So, would you pay to sit in a darkened theater for 90 minutes watching a demo real of kick-ass CGI ? Maybe you would. I'd much rather that the kick-ass CGI was part of a decent movie. This was NOT a decent movie, no matter how good some technical aspects of the CGI work was. End.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST

    @quantize: There is no arguing with such well reasoned thinking.

    by jazzdownunder

    Well done.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    I ain't gonna watch it. Rise sucked.

    by JoeSixPack

    What did everyone like about the movie, exactly? The acting was bad, the story was moronically simplistic and full of plot holes. James Franco was as convincing as a scientist as Keanu Reeves was as Jonathan Harker in Dracula. And forget the CGI - wow was that bad. They might as well have had cardboard cutouts on strings swinging around, it didn't look the least bit real for one second.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    jazzdownunder

    by corplhicks

    the scene where goes from child to adult in 5 years or whatever was on purpose-- it wasn't a mistake. it was their artistic transition having him in trees at different times of day/night and during rain and good weather.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Sex, Lies And Video Ape

    by DuncanDisorderly

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    If Twilight contained verbatim quotes from Nosferatu...

    by FluffyUnbound

    ...that would be pretty cool, actually. It would definitely have upped the quality of Twilight. Twilight sucked, and if it contained more knowing references to the history of vampire fiction and film that would have improved it, in a pomo kind of way.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Sequel ideas and comparisons to the original series

    by Ivan_Mtl

    First of all, I should say that I am a huge fan of the original Planet of the Apes series. I know that everybody is aware of Rod Serling's work on the original movie, but I think much of the credit for the success of the entire series should go to writer Paul Dehn who was brought in to write the sequels. He did such a wonderful job of introducing new characters and concepts, and really managed to tie the entire apes saga together. A great example is how it is mentioned in Conquest that apes were taken in as pets by humans when a virus wiped out all of earth's cats and dogs (a virus unknowingly brought back from the future by Cornelius and Zira). In fact, if you watch Escape, there is a scene where Cornelius and Zira are being checked into a hotel, and Zira spots a little dog in the lobby. Also, the half-buried Statue Of Liberty in the original film gave Mr. Dehn the idea for the mutant survivors living in underground New York for Beaneath. I also think that the destruction of the earth at the end of that film by the Alpha-Omega super atomic bomb is what creates the "Hasslein curve"/tear in space-time that sends the Apes back in time, as well as Taylor's crew forward in time. Now, I must say at this point that I saw and greatly enjoyed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes as well. I do agree that you can make a case for it being a "prequel" to the original Charlton Heston film, but I think it would negate anything after Beneath The Planet Of The Apes. I agree that the inevitable sequel will probably focus on the astronauts of the Icarus Mars mission. Maybe they will arrive back on Earth in the distant future to a world dominated by apes. It is mentioned in a newspaper headline that they were lost, so a similar catastophic event could ultimately be responsible for them having been hurled into the future as well (and one that could be revealed in a later sequel).

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST

    i love how jazzdownunder

    by omarthesnake

    comes in with a few nitpicks and then decides to declare everyone else wrong, the movie sucks, it's not a debate it's a stone cold fact. except it isn't. you didn't enjoy it? your loss. you can dig up plot holes? you know exactly how a chemically altered ape baby would behave as it grew up because you've been in the primate house staring slackjawed at dem funny monkeys sometime in your life? Who gives a rat's ass? it's not your story to tell. it's theirs. the filmmakers. the ones who made a movie that many people, including the VAST majority on this thread, enjoyed the hell out of. You didn't like it, move on to the next film. just dont think you can convince the rest of us that you're right when it's equally likely you're just a snivelling contrarian. as for the people complaining about spoilers, every one of you should be slapped repeatedly. fucking idiots. don't read the story about the sequel ideas for a movie you havent bothered to see yet.

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Damn.... Wish you guys had said *Spoliers*

    by blackflowerX

    Its not out until tomorrow here.....

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST

    solanine & omarthesnake

    by blackflowerX

    Well why bother plastering ***SPOILER*** all over shit on the site if it doesn't mean anything ? <BR><BR> So its not that "moronic" to assume they might actually warn peeps really(like ya' know ..."context") ....<BR><BR> omarthesnake ... How can people in the U.K "Bother" to see the film if its not out until Tomorrow? <BR><BR>

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST

    It's Magilla Gorilla!! And he

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Aug. 9, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST

    is pissed!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • really if that's the kind of reasoning for hating a genre film these days, people are just too fucking stupid...the monkeys might as fucking well take over

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Jazzdownunder = Fail.

    by Happyfat73

    Dude, that scene with Caesar starting at child-size and ending at adult size WAS the transition scene. He starts climbing the tree as a child, and gradually grows as he makes his way up through the branches. It was actually a really elegant way to show the passage of time, rather than a title card. Shame you missed it.</p> </p> Also, the "No" scene fucking owned the theatre I was in. Personally, I thought it was a goosebumps scene, as did many I've talked to since. So, your assertion that this film is objectively bad is just plain wrong. This film is getting praise from some pretty discerning film lovers... Its a shame you couldnt enjoy it - although it doesn't make you smarter or more discerning to dislike the film... It just means that you got to be miserable for 2 hours, rather than engaged, like everyone I've talked to. Sucks to be you, I guess.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    ivan_mtl

    by flax

    I don't think that interpreting RISE as a prequel to PLANET OF THE APES negates anything after BENEATH. It could simply be that Cornelius and Zira's time-travelling caused the divergence of an alternate timeline. Original timeline: RISE > PLANET OF THE APES > BENEATH New timeline: ESCAPE > CONQUEST > BATTLE I may be overlooking something, but I think it's even possible to interpret Tim Burton's film as part of the new timeline.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I disagree

    by Suskis

    What you consider tragedies are happy festivities for other people, and simple events for others. There have been counless jokes and funny movies about WWII. Deal with it.

  • Aug. 10, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    jazzdownunder

    by Hipshot

    Ceasar acting like a mentally challenged human was a VERY deliberate choice. Emotionally severely challenged--the only one of his kind. Act like a chimp? How in the hell would he know what a chimp acts like? He doesn't think like one, nor was he raised around chimps. He was raised around humans and would attempt to behave like them, while being constantly reminded that he isn't one. All aesthetics are subjective, of course, but the majority of viewers seem to think Andy Serkis' performance was terrific.