Aug. 5, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST
by Kharl Pitman
Aug. 5, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
Aug. 5, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
by Ted Knight
What is the apes' position on the debt ceiling?
Aug. 5, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST
Briefly each post could be edited, disapproved, marked as spam, blacklisted etc. I clicked on a post by Herc in one thread and it let me edit it. Didn't submit it, however. Glitch now gone. Are those new features about to come in? Imagine the havoc of everybody being able to edit everybody else's posts!
Aug. 5, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
Doubt POTA will ever be beaten for that :)
Aug. 5, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST
Professional fucking movie. Good work.
Aug. 5, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST
Aug. 5, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
Just saw it. I thought it was VERY well done. The transformation of Caesar from innocence to revolutionary leader was fascinating to watch and very emotional. Well done Serkis and Wyatt and everyone else involved!!
Aug. 5, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
...is hanging from it. Hey, someone was going to say it. (And after fretting over it for weeks, it's nice to be able to relax and make a joke about it, however lame.)
Aug. 5, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST
It was so subtle and smooth, and the scene in which (SPOILERS) Caeser rejects Franco's invitation to come home was heartbreaking. While Franco certainly isn't the star of this movie, he provided a sympathetic conduit for the audience.
Aug. 5, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST
it was a competent summer flick...Serkis was awesome as can be expected...CGI was almost always good...a couple really cool moments (NOO!!) being one of them...just because it was totally unexpected...also I like how they dodged the "just shoot the dumb animals" bullet...I liked the end, believable and leads nicely into the sequel
Aug. 5, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST
watching Malfoy act like a complete dick and then getting killed like a bitch was fun...it took me until his 3rd scene before I figured out it was him...is he getting type cast as the asshole??
Aug. 5, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST
Aug. 5, 2011, 9:32 p.m. CST
by Ted Knight
Once upon a time, some scientists placed three monkeys in a room. In the center of the room they placed a short staircase. At the top, the scientists hung a bunch of bananas from the debt ceiling. Whenever a monkey tried to climb the stairs to get the bananas, the scientists sprayed the other two with a fire hose, much to their dislike. After many repeated dousings, the monkeys took to beating the monkey that tried to climb the stairs. Eventually, the monkeys stopped trying to get the bananas, and the scientists put away the hose. After a while the scientists replaced one of the monkeys with a new one. The original two monkeys violently protested any attempts by the newcomer to climb the stairs, and she quickly quit trying. One by one, the scientists replaced the other two monkeys, leaving no original participants. As new monkeys were introduced, they in turn were beaten and learned the rules. Although they had never been sprayed or even seen the hose, the monkeys continued beating each other for climbing the stairs. Why? Because that's the way they'd always done things.
Aug. 5, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
The CG performance capture isn't quite photoreal, but there's so much of it, and its so consistently expressive, non-photoreal doesn't really matter. Not much else to say except that the origin story was told as well as one could probably tell it.
Aug. 5, 2011, 11:29 p.m. CST
Just caught it today as well. After feeling down on the summer movies after POTC4 and TF3 it's nice to see a surprise, especially in August. <p>Okay the debt ceiling is a bummer as well, but I'm staying within the boundaries of the discussion here...
Aug. 5, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST
=I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself....The Forbidden Zone was once a paradise. Your breed made a desert of it.= -- Thus Spoke Doctor Zaius
Aug. 6, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2011, 1:50 a.m. CST
its worth talking up even a solid summer film..
Aug. 6, 2011, 3:59 a.m. CST
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Aug. 6, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST
Where Batman takes him in the 'cave'
Aug. 6, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST
Yes, even better than X-Men: First Class, so this is pretty high praise. You know oddly, first Class and Rise of the Planet of the Apes have similar stories. We a special entity raised with special powers, then that entity eventually begins to hate humans and riases an army of others with similar powers to oppose them. Anyway, gotta say Sirkis really nailed it here. I would even say that the first hour just being around Caesar and watching him grow, develop bonds, experience new things, be protective, be sad, etc.....that's the heart of this story. The last half hour or so turns into a revenge/action storty, and that's awesome too, but I prefer the first hour because it was so touching and involving.
Aug. 6, 2011, 12:05 p.m. CST
You just know it figures into the sequel. Remember it was the first manned mission to Mars...and then it mysteriously dissapeared. I'm assuming this is the ship that returns int he future when the apes rule? I also love that they didn't try to do everything in one movie. It took it's time developing the story and characters. And for all the calls of "the military would just kill them all, it's stupid", that was answered quite intelligently. This movie is not about the apes taking over the planet. It just sets the stage for that to happen, and it makes total sense.
Aug. 6, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST
Which means at least a $50 million weekend... which means sequel (especially considering it cost under $100 million to make). Genderblender is rolling in her grave.
Aug. 6, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST
Comparing "the best" as X-Men and Planet of the Apes...hilarious.
Aug. 6, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
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Aug. 6, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
This is one of the few movies I have seen where I actually WANT to see a sequel! The character of Caesar was so beautifully done, it made me wan't to more of him.
Aug. 6, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST
Christ, when are we going to get an "edit" button for our own posts??
Aug. 6, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST
coz thats the n word he meant you gibbering fool.
Aug. 6, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST
Congrats to the director.
Aug. 6, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST
...were completely photorealistic, in my opinion. Caesar as a baby, not so much--but Maurice was indistinguishable from the real thing. Entirely convincing to me. If there were indeed no apes used in the making of the film, then this was quite an accomplishment.
Aug. 6, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST
Hands down...this one was & will be the best. Loved it.
Aug. 6, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST
I have so far seen all of the "tent pole" films of the summer. I just walked out of "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and have to say it was the best film of the year. It was the first time in my mind that emotion truly came from a CGI character/characters. The best part was the applause at the ending of the film. That didn't happen when I watched Captain America, and I thought for sure the audience that was sold out would be out of their seats cheering. The ending was perfect, and I walked out feeling like the humans deserved what they got! As someone who is 36 years old and has seen all the versions and sequels including the tv series growing up in re-runs as a kid. This film nailed the nostalgia along with re-inventing the wheel with out going to far off course. Hail Caesar! Hail Weta! Hail to the Apes!
Aug. 6, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST
...not because it's bad by any means (my extremely favorable review is on Nordling's tb for it), but because of what a fractious, polarized bunch we usually are. The only strong dismissals are from those who haven't seen it. I've not come across a single vitriolic attack. Instead subtitles_off and rise of fett and the_choppah and mattman all join hands and sing its praises. 20% of the reviews on RT are unfavorable, but not here. I even checked talkbacks for other movies to see if we'd all suddenly gone soft. Nope, business as usual there. To be sure, people have acknowledged a few minor flaws in the film, but where's the fury, the rage, the contempt? Nowhere to be found. (Kind of refreshing, actually.) A genre movie that just about everyone here appreciates. *shakes head in wonderment* It's a fucking Christmas miracle--in August!
Aug. 7, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST
Everything this summer has ranged from shit to kinda alright. This was the first fucking summer movie that kicked my ass. THANK YOU!!
Aug. 7, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST
Otherwise, this Spring was a better time for tent poles than this summer.
Aug. 7, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST
that moment by itself had more meaning than all the rest of the summer movies combined
Aug. 7, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST
Re: shaun1138 ".....and I walked out feeling like the humans deserved what they got!" Even with all of humanity's flaws we are amazing beings. Greater than ALL the gods. Hugo
Aug. 7, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST
Fantastic! My one little quibble would be not establishing how that virus could spread so fast and blaze through what would be massive quarantines. It wasn't established as that fuckin airborne. Someone has to sneeze blood on you it looked like. Anyways- note to apes: When you jump on a cop it's face tear off with your teeth time. Fingers first is fine for starters. Then bite the bottom lip and rip in an upward arc- tearing the entire cop face off. Unrated director's cut with this scene please.
Aug. 7, 2011, 2:53 a.m. CST
What about all the other incredible ape performances? What the fuck is this bullshit? I made these fucking characters and animated them. Go fuck yourself with this Serkis shit. We're going to raise a generation of morons who know nothing about the effects process. Too late I know but I don't have to sit here and listen to this bullshit. I'm going to literally fuck your face whenever I hear this crap.
Aug. 7, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST
Without him I don't think the movie could have been made at all. We'd never have been able to get another guy to stand around and act like a chimp.
Aug. 7, 2011, 3:42 a.m. CST
this flick was really good! They handled A LOT of material and really setup a new series of films in the 1h44m they had. Did the apes looks fake now and then? Yes. Overall they looked great, though. The story was directed and acted well. Look forward to the next one!
Aug. 7, 2011, 3:43 a.m. CST
Terrible in Potter and terrible here. Ceaser stole the show.
Aug. 7, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST
by Nerd Rage
They commuicate so much with looks and gestures it's amazing. The sequel for this will be a classic if they define how the different apes find their roles in society as seen in the original Planet of the Apes.
Aug. 7, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST
good geek films need to be praised,
Aug. 7, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST
The Caeser performance is very nuanced in a way computers just can't achieve without an actual human actor to convey the emotion. The movie hinges on whether or not you care for Caeser.
Aug. 7, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST
Aug. 7, 2011, 8:16 p.m. CST
But those apes looked infinitely more like apes than anyone in makeup ever looked like an "ape" in the original. Amazing how rapidly we expect perfection from effects, isn't it?
Aug. 8, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST
I have to say I was surprised. Hope we get to see what happens next.
Aug. 8, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST
Aug. 8, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
Is this film at all related to the 70s films? Or the Burton film? Or is this a complete reboot of the series?
Aug. 8, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST
i just saw the pic a couple days ago, but i don't recall what you mean by the "Straw in Ceasar's fingers". Do you mean the dad's fork? or the guy's Knife? i just don't recall. thakns for your help/clarification
Aug. 9, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST
Thought it was a respectable attempt to reboot the franchise. Though the CGI was a bit dodgy, my brain grew accustomed to it and bought it for the most part. I found the nods to the original series both good and bad. *SPOILER* I really liked the way they set the stage for the time-traveling astronaut scenario ala the original POTA movie. Hope they explore that, if not in the sequel, then in the 3rd or 4th installment.