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The Juice digs Leo's THE BEACH!
Hey folks, Harry here... And if my money (about a buck fifty) were placed on what film would contain an X-MEN trailer... It'd have to be on THE BEACH (note, I'm not talking about video tapes of ON THE BEACH, but rather that the trailer may in face be on THE BEACH, the Leonardo DiCaprio film directed by Danny Boyle) Also... Through the whole history of this project, we've had those that loathed it, and those that have loved it. Personally I'm a fan of Boyle's work. And I like Leonardo DiCaprio, even if it seems that every Star Wars fan and intimidated male on the planet doesn't seem to be able to do anything but hurl obscenities at this very talented actor. But I've been curious about seeing this one myself. So... Till then... here's The Juice..
The Juice here…
Welcome to Leo Dicaprio's first film since he was "the queen of the world in
Titanic"… I've seen movies that are not at all like their trailers
before…but this one…well lets just say it's not your typical escape from
paradise, blue lagoon flick that the trailer leads us to believe! The Beach,
(incredibly) is an intriguing cross between Swiss Family Robinson and Taxi
Driver. Yes I said intriguing, henceforth, this is a kick ass flick, no lie.
It has it's lows (see Dicaprio's lame parallel universe theory), and it has
it's highs (glorious locations paced by pounding techno beats)
The film begins with a Fight Clubesque narrative and a lead character who
instantly tells us who he is and where he's from means nothing…to him…or his
audience. He finds himself in a foreign land, with no plans but to forget
his past (for now). A map and two friends later he finds his way to our
beach…paradise. What follows is the "Swiss Family Robinson" aspect of the
film. We find a self-contained environment, complete with couples, brothers,
and friends, the whole nine yards. This is the main focus of the film. A
civilization free from the confines of the modern world (alright yet another
anti-pop culture film!). Again unlike the trailers we've seen, the film
doesn't not obsess itself with the relationship between DiCaprio and the
delicious young French girl (forgive me, I'm young). In fact only the first
hour even shows the two together…After some intense turn of events Richard
(DiCaprio) finds himself in the "Taxi Driver" aspect of the film. He begins
to train, but for what reasons? Who knows...he goes over the edge, but never
in the film are the locals with the Ak-47's (as seen in...you guessed it...)
really a major part of the plot.
The Beach really showcases Leo's maturity. I have never been particularly
fond of him (except in Gilbert Grape), but this film shows a more believable
darker side (much better than Basketball Diaries). I don't know what kind of
audience this movie intends to pick up. Many of the girls who swooned over
him for Titanic have outgrown him, and the action film guys (as the movie
seems to be trying to sell itself as, judging from the previews) well they
aren't Leo fans. But then again this isn't an action film or a romance, it's
a refreshing piece of work, complete with gorgeous sets, compelling acting,
and a fantastic soundtrack. The Beach is worth it's wait…
The Juice running out.
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Not too excited about this one, but I'll see it for the hot chick.
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Jan 23, 2000 5:56:17 AM CST
Hey, I'm the first? Nobody seems to be interested in ol' Leo?
by natalie
Haven't read the book but I think I have to do it before the movie comes out. Personally I've always thought Leo is a great actor and Titanic's success was both a blessing and a curse for him - yes, he's become a megastar and receives millions for a part but many people have stopped to take him seriously and some great projects are closed for him now - such as Star Wars for example. Maybe if the Beach is really that good it would be a turning point in his career?~~~~BTW do you know that a guy from Texas's video Summer Son is an actor from the Beach?
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This looks like a great film! Dont forget how most of us thought LEO was the shit before "Titanic". This movie looks like a good follow up to Boyle's "Trainspotting" I for one cant wait to see this movie!!!
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Why does anyone think this film would be pants? I thought everyone had read that damn book!
Regardless the Boyle has surpassed himself with the soundtrack. It features a host of specially recorded tracks including Leftfield's 'Snakeblood', 'Brutal' by New Order, 'Eightball' by Underworld, 'Return Of Django' by Asian Dub Foundation, 'It's Business As Usual' by Barry Adamson (?) and All Saint's new track 'Pure Shores'. -
To tell you the truth, I'm actually looking forward to this. I think it will be at least good. I'm not a Leo hater like many, many other TalkBackers - I can still equate past performance of his and conclude that he ain't no fly by night (Boy's Life. What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Basketball Diaries. Hell, even Titanic.). He is a good actor who given a little space could be great. That's why I wouldn't die if he was Anakin - but why would he want to go through all that shit again like after Titanic? The guy said he hated that part of his life (all the chicks wanting him notwithstanding). Also, I think it would stunt his career. if he wants to be his generations De Niro, you have to do more personal work (BTW - De Niro in Rocky and Bullwinkle - WHAT THE FUCK...). Also woth mentioning - the soundtrack will be cool if it has that Vast song in the trailer in it - Vast is a cool band, sort of like NIN or Enigma in the fact that it's one guy, and it's a very cinematic album, to borrow a phrase from my friend Darth Vegas. Check it out, if you find it.
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I've seen the trailers,and read interviews about this movie.I think Leo will have a whole new audience after word of mouth brings fans of different,action type movies in. The teens will have trouble getting in anyway...it's R rated.
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Anyone says they dont want to see this is going to see it and love it...It's cool in the way Election or Existenz or even Fight Club was...If Boyle is hitting the mark, it may be near perfect...the soundtrack is incredible and the tone is kept from Garland's deadpan work, it's eerie, like a night time acid discussion at the beach ...
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YES!!!!! My dream has finally come true!
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Good for you! Leo is talented and deserves better! He's being very discrete about his "stardom". Anyone one else would have starred in about five films since TITANIC. He's starred in one (if you can count MAN IN THE IRON MASK).
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Let me be the first voice of reason here...did any of you little Mr. Positives happen to see the abysmal trailer for this film? I've been squirming in my seat since I saw this preview before Phantom Menace! "I don't think in kilometers...I'm American." Way to help the world image of Americans, Leo. This dialogue sounds beyond pathetic. "I will NOT...DIE...TODAY!" or "Do you have a girlfriend? Just making conversation." Please tell me the rest of the film is better than this...the vibe I'm getting here is, if the lame version of Lord of the Flies from the late 80's and Brokedown Palace fucked and had a baby, it would resemble this extra-chromosomed manna for the masses. Dig in dude, I'll wait until I hear otherwise from proven sources.
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My friend if you read the review you would clearly see many of the answers to your questions...the movie is completely different from the trailer! It is not an escape from paradise flick! Those were my words exactly in fact the "I WILL NOT DIE ON THIS ISLAND" dialogue in the trailer is taken out of context, he is not talking about escaping from the island he is telling a story about killing a shark around a fire, and he's making a joke out of it...when I say this film is not even a glimmer of what the trailer makes it out to be, I am not exagerating
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It is sooo lame to judge a film by a trailer you "can't think for myself" asshole!!!!
What the hell does the trailer have to do with the final touch of a film. What does it have to do with a performance???
Trailers are the business part of filmmaking... they are made to try to draw some interest. Yeah, maybe the trailer was bad, but don't judge the film until you have seen it.
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Why? Because the book is great! Those of you who haven't read it, do it! It's really, really good. If the movie is half as good as the novel, it'll be worth seeing. It won't outdo the book, because so far I haven't read a book that's been worse than the movie (on the other hand, I've never read books that are based on the movie).
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what a lame ass review. He doesn't tell us one thing we don't know about this movie if you've seen it. I haven't seen it. He doesn't mention one scene. He doesn't even know the name of character DiCaprio is playing, or Virginie. I know more about it from reading the book review on AMAZON. Juice, if you really did see it follow it up with some details. Kicks ass? In what way? We know it's a Generation X beach paradise turned nightmare, directed by the TRAINSPOTTING guy.
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Why does'nt Leo play Jesus in Paul Verhoven's new movie? All I ever here is 'how good Leo is', why does'nt he act in good roles (aka American Psyco) or challenging movies, ie: Verhoven's Christ bio?
Is the beach any good (I know its a Danny Boyle film so I'm going) but how much should i get my hopes up?
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Having been lucky enough to attend the cast and screening of the Beach in London yesterday as my flatmate worked on the picture in post-production. I can assure you all that the pic is great. A beautiful film, you really believe that the beach exists and you could find it if you tried hard enough. (Apparently, the cove itself is a combination of rock, painting and construction) Leo rocks, is very convincing and shows his maturing acting ability.
Ths soundtrack kicks major ass, loud in yer face, loads of cool tracks, Chemical Brothers, Moby, Faithless, All Saints etc etc.. The score is Angelo Badelmanto (sp) but it's difficult to hear his piece in the overall noise. The film sticks fairly close to the book, although a few major scenes have gone... the food poisoning, and the end has been changed to be more errr positive? It is fairly easy to leave the beach in the film, the sense of claustrophobia is not so apparent.
The beach WILL be a major hit when it gets its release next month. -
Reading the reviews of The Beach on this site so far, seems the film will appeal to mainly the 16 to 20 something age range plus die hard Leo fans. Trailers are misleading as well all know, but The Beach trailer is one of the best I've seen - it doesn't give away too much and is undoubtedly suspenseful. I've had initial misgivings when I learned the movie cut major parts from the book - visions of The Blue Lagoon as many people have noted - but I can't believe the man who made Trainspotting is capable of that even if he tried. RE. Leo issue - what's funny is that Leo has a lot more in common with the people who hate him the most, i.e., young males, than you could imagine, plus he is doing probably everything every guy would wish to do (date models, live the high life, go to cool places, etc, etc.) himself given the same circumstances.
But then if The Beach happens to suck big time (which I don't foresee), I'll be the first one here to say both Boyle and Leo have had their best work already behind them. -
Well i know i am one of the few girls who actually post here-
And i don't really give a dam bout that.
Point is-
I've read the book- 5 times now- while on calls or at lunch at Compuserve- I've read only the end of the script ( and that's next on my list of shit to read ) I LOVE THAT DARN THING! It is a fantastic piece of lit from latter part of last century.
And Harry- I do plan to see the film and make a kick ass review for you and the rest of the guys and gals here- Till then- GE- -
i also love the book, so i was more than a little concerned when i heard that Leo was to play Richard, not so much out of disregard for DiCaprio (he CAN act), but because i see Richard as being quintessentially English; his whole take on american pop culture and vietnam comes across that way.
BUT i am looking forward to seeing the movie- if only to see how the 'Trainspotting' team handle Mr Duck.
'though i don't like the sound of a sanitised, happier ending- that would seem to nullify the story somewhat.
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... you will not like the film. I have read the script on-line and (possible spoiler alert), the best character is gone. Yes, no Jed. Richard goes from being a (slightly) nieve guy to a total prick. At no time do we simpathise with him (unlike the book). The ending is totally unrecognisable and worse than the book. It is too twee. John Hodge is usually a good writer. I suppose he must have phoned this one in. The dialogue varies from alright to extreme cheese. I could do better and I'm not a good writer. The only good casting decision was Robert Carlisle as Daffy and even that character has changed. I will go and see it but only out of morbid curiosity. Hodge, Boyle, McDonald, I am dissapointed. An opertunity wasted.
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I really don't think that you should write off the movie just because you've read a screeplay on the web. Definitely I am a blind optimist when it comes to this film, I'm a big Boyle/Hodge/Beach fan and I so much want this to be great, so it is bound to irritate me when people who haven't even seen the damn film are slagging the quality of it off, particularly in a talk back from a positive review. But that script has undoubtedly changed. I know that (with the exception of A Life Less Ordinary) Hodge works with Boyle and the cast right through production. Carlyle's character is said to have changed a lot from the scripted version (source: The Face). Of course if it was a project that I wasn't really rooting for, I would be saying that it can't possibly be a good film if it has a lame script, but then how easy is it to "read" a script? I know I can't do it, I keep reading scripts for films I like and finding them lame. The exclusion of Jed doesn't sound promoising though, and one of the things that really made the book for me was the darkness intoned by the narrator every now and then, abruptly subverting the sunny, happy mood: "for all I know, Etienne believed there were no clouds in Idaho until the day he died" etc. I reckon the film has lost that. Also, as I was reading the book, I couldn't help the feeling that it would be pretty difficult to turn into a good film, apart from the few strikingly cinematic images Garland uses, such as Richard's first dream of Daffy Duck with the blood shooting up into the room fan and falling down around the sleeping Richard like rain. Anyway, I've got tickets to a screening tomorrow with a Q & A with the Trainspotting troika, so I'll be able to see for myself. HAVE YOU? I SAY, HAVE YOU? So ner.
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I saw a press screening of "The Beach" in Asia, where it happens to open before its Stateside release.
This film will satisfy neither fans of Danny "Trainspotting" Boyle nor fans of Leonardo DiCaprio.
"The Beach" does well as a travelogue. It has great scenary, a French babe in her bikini most of the time and Leo D. without his shirt on.
What this film doesn't have is a coherent plot or vision. Production notes keep harping on how "The Beach" is about life in our age of technological overload, but if someone didn't tell me this (and if I hadn't already read the overrated book) I'd have had no clue as to what the heck "The Beach" was trying to say.
The story concerns a group of backpackers who find an island paradise off the coast of Thailand. Typical to island paradises, Eden quickly turns to hell. By the time "The Beach" hits its halfway point, you'll know where this thing is headed. Then Leo goes bonkers and does a Marlon Brando "Apocalypse Now" riff and you'll feel like you've seen it all before.
Sure, the film is dressed up with some fancy camerawork, but this doesn't disguise a weak script.
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This movie looks ok but I think I'll wait till it comes out on video. I would be more excited to see it if it didnt have that little fag homo Leo in it. The only movie that he was in that was good was "Whats Eating Gilbert Grape?" I must say that he did have a good performance in that movie.
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I hope this movie does not destroy the uniqueness of the Koh Phi Phi, Krabi and Koh Phangan areas of Thailand, with movie star struck tourists, as has happened elsewhere.I have been to these idyllic beaches every year for the past 4 years and they are almost Utopia. The movie was ok, though like some critics said a bit too much like a Lord Of The Rings atttempt.
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Hey Harry, suggest you check out a grammar book or at least use the "grammar check" in your processor. FYI, "it's" = it is, not "its" as you mean it, and there's more, much more. It's (sic) distracting to read your reviews when you write them like a junior high drop out. Help us out here with the education of the youth of USA. What do you say, Harry...
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I got dragged to this movie by my baby cousin. I'm not a Leo hater by any means (his performance was definitely okay), but McGregor would have been better, no doubt about it at all. He is *not* in his 30s. His on-line bio lists date of birth as 3/31/71. Of course, without a decent script not even McGregor could have saved this mediocre movie, but he damn well could have given the Richard character a spark of something besides histrionic lunacy.
I was very disappointed in this film. The book was so good, but it definitely didn't scream out to be made into a major motion picture. The trailer didn't grab my attention that much, either. Now that I've seen the film, I can see that Boyle and Hodge did their best to grab the MTV generation with the screenplay. Attracting a more mature, adult audience *obviously* wasn't a goal of theirs. Too many plot holes existed, and the characters weren't deep. They were pseudo-deep--a major annoyance. There simply wasn't enough time to flesh them out as they were in the novel, and why the f*** did Hodge write out the Jed character?
If you're young, and you like seeing Leo with his shirt off(my cousin is 18, therefore...), you might find something to enjoy about The Beach. If you're a grown-up who expects more, no way. Leo should hurry up, make "Gangs of New York" with Scorsese now that he's signed on, and forget about The Beach. We all make mistakes. Boyle and Hodge did; Leo did; and so did I. I paid good money to see it. -
I am a die-hard Leo fan and I thought that this movie was great.
The only thing that drove me crazy was when it turned into a video game. The audience was laughing and I was totally embarassed for him. I thought that the acting was great and he was just plain yummy:). This movie rocks!!! -
he is a good actor,isn't he?
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he is a good actor,isn't he?he is beautiful,talented.and i think in the beach,he seems even better than before.i have been fond of him since his tv growing pains.now,he is like a man but not a boy.
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