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Trailer For Lucky McKee's THE WOMAN!

Published at: July 26, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST by Nordling

Nordling here.

We're fans of Lucky McKee here at AICN, and I freaking adore MAY, which in my opinion is one of the finest horror films of the Aughts, with a tremendously brave (and terrifying) performance by Angela Bettis.  This film got quite the reaction at Sundance, with our own former Moriarty, Drew McWeeny, nearly getting into a fight with an audience member because of their offended reaction at the post Q&A.  It's based on the novel co-written by McKee and Jack Ketchum, and from what I can tell, it's a harsh, raw film that wounds, and also examines sexual politics and gender roles in today's society.  It's by all accounts a brutal film, and as dark a comedy as they get, and I can't wait to see it.  I'm not sure when this gets released, but here's the trailer, and I'm definitely keeping an eye out for when this gets released:

Here's Drew's review, and here's the goofball who went ballistic at the end of the film, which probably serves as a terrific trailer for the film on its own:

Nordling, out.

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  • July 26, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    well, I liked May

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    so i'm in.

  • July 26, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I thought May was great

    by D.Vader

    And the reverse May, "Roman", was weird but watchable.

  • July 26, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Angela Bettis was totally cute in that movie

    by D.Vader

    Developed kinda a crush on her in that one.

  • July 26, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Oh Nordling, you just HAD to use the word "gender" didn't you?

    by D.Vader

    You may as well have lit up the Bat signal for you know who...

  • July 26, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    d.vader

    by Nordling

    Hahahahahahahahohfuck.

  • July 26, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    MAY was ok

    by Continentalop

    Overrated, but I guess that is what happens when you come out with a character study horror movie in an age of just mindless victims and killing machines. ROMAN, however, was just a big disappointment. Not even Kristen Bell could save it.

  • Got a link or something, Nordy?

  • July 26, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Time for a "Bender"

    by 2soon2eat

    OMG, this is going to be an EPIC talk back!!! Time to run to a phone booth and log back in as you know who.

  • July 26, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    LOOKS LIKE A REIMAGINING OF DEAD GIRL

    by BSB

    Which I will forever regret watching. Should've known better than to listen to Harry.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Is this embedded youtube video a stunt?

    by Detective_Fingerling

    Who is the guy filming this guy complaining about the film. Seems to me like they did this to force the "issues" people have with this movie.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Lucky McKee

    by blackwood

    I remember liking THE WOODS but nothing else about it. And MAY was great. So I will follow where McKee goes. Ever since Drew posted his piece on the fight that almost went down I've been itching to see this. I hope it lives up. There's a dearth of smart and brave horror movies out there.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Hey BSB, Nordling responded to ya!

    by D.Vader

    How abouts that!

  • July 26, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by Rebeck2

    Just go to Youtube and you'll find it. I like when the guy goes to get his refund and a lady yells out "Are YOU a woman?". That being said, Variety tore the film a new asshole and devoted only two paragraphs to it.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    I remember when you bastards

    by brad negrotto

    got me to waste money on May. Then a few you years later you did the same with The Woods. Fuck Lucky McKee and any Lucky McKee supporters!

  • And I'm the bad guy?

  • July 26, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST

    THANKS GUYS

    by BSB

    Captain Indignant should see A Serbian Film! Or not!!!!

  • July 26, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    What?!?

    by ATARI

    This has been posted for over an hour and genderbender hasn't gone off on a rape rant yet?<br> <br> <br> P.S. Sorry in advance if I jinxed it.<br> <br>

  • July 26, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    I'm inclined to agree with the guy being called unreasonable

    by torontoxic

    May was fucking stupid. This looks like more shock for attention bullshit. <P> As much as he's not coming across very well the man is genuinely upset. That's not hard to do. If I stomp out a baby in front of you am I pushing boundaries? Nope. So quit the bullshit. They should have taken their lumps and let him speak his mind. Film festivals were never supposed to just be for kissing hipster ass. <P> I will never watch this bag of shit but I'll sure as hell download it and hand it out for free to anyone who does want to see it.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST

    What a jackass

    by D.Vader

    As an artist (actor), he should be appalled he's advocating for a movie to be burned until there's nothing left. He's literally advocating for censorship.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Holy shit the more they talk the more I wish I was there

    by torontoxic

    The conversation does not end when an employee states it does. All those idiots should be fired. What a joke. Ganging up on people like that is cowardly. They don't let him finish his sentences while accusing him of not letting them finish theirs and they didn't even see the movie. What a bunch of pussies. <P> That smarmy fuck at the end deserves a beating. What a fucking douche.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Jackass is right.

    by Stan Arthur

    Dude obviously hasn't heard of The Human Centipede.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Shitty trailers...

    by Flames gotta Eat

    What's with these awful trailers for the horror being pimped today? First the Bellflower trailer and now this? Apparently these are two great new horror films but I'd never know it looking at these amateurish, very low budget looking trailers with no tension in them. I will probably see both films but no thanks to these trailers, they actually bring the films down in my opinion if they are in fact any good.

  • July 26, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    supermach is right

    by Franck

    ..the security guys have no clue, they just attempt to do their job, which consists in safely removing this guy from theater grounds, pretending to listen to what he has to say, but never really trying to understand how he truly, sincerely, seems shaken by the extremes the movie has gone to. Although I would never advocate censorship, I wonder how far a filmmaker needs to go to get an audience, and whether escalating the realms of what horrors can be done to women, children, or animals are worth the cheers overheard in the background. We may need to have a long look in the mirror...

  • July 26, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Oh Please

    by Rebeck2

    This guy is a major fucking tool. He just goes on and on and nobody gives a shit - he just wants his moment in the sun, and he can barely express himself. Leave, get your money back, and blog yourself into a frenzy, you censoring fuck. The security's only mistake is actually trying to reason with him. Security: "Can I finish my sentence?" Insane Idiot: "I doubt it". LOL Look at him, I'm more worried about what's going on in his pervy repressed head than what's on the movie screen.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    i appreciate the warning, won't see this crap

    by brightgeist

    from the trailer i wasn't quite sure, but the clip of the guy talking about the movie convinced me that i won't waste my time seeing this film. i tend to agree with him that there are movies that have absolutely no positive value for anyone in our society, and some of them even advocate values that are truly detrimental. i am definitely not a religious person, and i love a good horror movie, but some of the crap that has been made lately, really reflects the inhumane-ness and sickness of our society. these movies get made because there are people who want to see that kind of stuff. and the more such movies get made, the more people will want to see stuff like that. and the only reason behind it all is profit. it's hipocrisy to think that anyone who wants to see such movies is interested in the "social commentary". it's sick movies made for sick people. art is supposed to comment on society in a critical way, not to feed society's sick desires.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Ha, the guy in that video is hilarious

    by BillEmic

    "These people are CHEERING RAPE!"

  • July 26, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    a guy the passionate

    by spike0037

    Has to be hidding something or have some deep dark.fantasy he MAY want to act out. He probe was getting hot and havy. It's not wrong don't do.it in real life re play dude.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Some people find this film offensive

    by schadenfreudian

    others find fur coats (like the one the woman he's with is wearing) offensive. Life sure is complicated.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST

    ballistic

    by slone13

    Did I miss the "ballistic" part? It looks like a dude who's mildly upset standing in a hallway arguing with some people. The Woman looks pretty bad, by the way. May was pretty forgettable. I never saw The Woods.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Jack Ketchum must be a severely fucked-up individual.

    by frank

    His “Girl Next Door” was the most disturbing and depressing movie I have seen (I had to turn it off about 2/3 of the way through) and this movie sounds to be along the same lines. “Disturbing" is not at all the same thing as “bad” though, and I would never suggest that these guys shouldn’t be able to make the movies they want to, even though I will be keeping a safe distance from this one.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Congrats, Brightgeist

    by Rebeck2

    I don't agree with censorship, BUT...

  • July 26, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST

    LOL, My Post Got Erased

    by Rebeck2

    It was long too... Oh well. I was saying that the first thing out of a censor's mouth is the above statement. You have joined a long line of "concerned" people who want to tell other adults what they should and shouldn't watch.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    SUPERMARCH...

    by johnnyrandom

    ...you're an idiot.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    I saw "The Woman"

    by Clio

    Yep, I downloaded it about three weeks ago. Normally I keep most of my downloaded movies, but this one I deleted. The filmmakers may not have been "sick" to make it, but the action of the male characters was beyond twisted, sick, and mysoginist. So I don't condemn the film, per se, but the actions of the males in the film were so noxious that I could never bear to see it again. I kinda wish I had never seen it....it was hard to get those images out of my mind. There was a noticeable continuity fault late in the film, concerning what the teenage boy was doing alone with "the woman." The diagogue of his mother describing what he did was completely different than what he actually did.....someone didn't edit it very well at that point. I can't say anything else without giving away spoilers, but see it if you want.....but I don't recommend it.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    rebeck2

    by brightgeist

    what are you talking about? i didn't say a single word about "censorship". if that's all you take from what i wrote, it's pretty poor. i tried to describe a systemic problem, an escalation driven be profit motive. if you disagree with that, then present your arguments.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Clio

    by Rebeck2

    I don't fault you for that in the least, I have no idea if I actually want to sit through it myself - although if I sat through Martyrs, Serbian, Inside, etc, I feel like I can take almost anything - it DOES look unpleasant. But I would never in a million years approve of any censorship of any fictional film. I wouldn't even burn Sarah Palin's kiss-ass documentary...that tells you how serious I am. (and yes, I count that as a fictional film)

  • July 26, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Anyone else think the guy has been drinking?

    by D.Vader

  • July 26, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    One more thing

    by Clio

    Nordling called THE WOMAN "as dark a comedy as they get." Bull. I love dark comedies, have seen many of them, and there was absolutely nothing comedic, lighthearted, or vaguely satirical about this movie. Whoever described it as a "dark comedy" to Nordling is absolutely clueless. This movie is dark. Period.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    rebeck2

    by brightgeist

    and no, i don't "want to tell other adults what they should and shouldn't watch". <br> if you're unable to look at problems at a systems level instead of an us-against-them level, then i guess we won't be able to communicate constructively.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    brightgeist

    by Rebeck2

    Maybe I'm not intelligent enough to understand your highly-nuanced argument...it sure sounded like you were saying we have a "new" problem with sick people making and watching sick films and we need to explore that. How do you suggest we do that? That sounds like a justifying preamble to, hey, we need to stop these films from being made/released/seen or whatever. If society is sick, then work to make it better - but I'll tell you, it's not the movies. The same argument was made against Psycho, The Exorcist, Night Of The Living Dead, etc, etc, you name it. Hell, going back to the days of Frankenstein and The Wolfman.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    @JohnnyRandom

    by Franck

    ...great argument, well motivated, amazing depth. Congrats, and thank you for making all of us look smarter.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I thought Jack Ketcham was a pseudonym (or nom de plume).

    by tonagan

    And that he's actually two or three people who co-author books. Man, I'm confused.

  • All they know is that the man stood up, yelled, disrupted the program and the process, and so they took him out. The fact that they tried to do it politely speaks volumes. Fact is- they did not HAVE to. The man started yelling and he gave up his right to be there by being a disruption. The security guards did their job.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Do you guys think this movie Divide looks messed up?

    by Motherfucker Jones

    clip http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1214055330?bctid=1066038093001

  • July 26, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    rebeck2

    by brightgeist

    i do think you are intelligent enough :P i probably just expressed myself badly <br> i totally agree with you that it's not the movies alone that make society sick. no argument there. <br> like i said, i think it's an escalation, reciprocation, interdependency, something like that. filmmakers try to top each other in order to present something new, something that audiences haven't seen before. and as movies become more and more "sick", the tolerance of the audience is raised more and more. like everyone's already seen THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE last year, so they need something even stronger this year. <br> but i'm not trying to say that this escalation makes society sick as a whole. it mainly makes the "movie audience society" sicker and sicker. but in the end, there is an influence that these movies have, at least on parts of society. empathy and appreciation of positive things like "love" and "beauty" in young people gets reduced. that may sound corny to some, but seriously, i have met so many young people who talk about a romantic experience as something "stupid", and who think that an exploding boy is "awesome". and that is, at least in part, a result of the escalation of violence and inhumane-ness in our media, from movies to computer games. things get reversed. in real life, an exploding body would be a horrible traumatic experience, and a romantic date is something really nice. <br> well, i'll stop here, i think you get my point

  • July 26, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    *exploding boy = exploding body

    by brightgeist

    works both ways i guess

  • July 26, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST

    and shocktillyoudrop said this movie is a sequel to the offspring

    by Motherfucker Jones

  • July 26, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Is that STAR-BURNS from Community?

    by Uncle Stan

  • July 26, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST

    @brightgeist

    by schadenfreudian

    Just out of curiosity, do you mind telling us how old you are?

  • July 26, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST

    He's goin home to see Last House On The Left

    by thelordofhell

  • July 26, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST

    He's goin' home to see Salo

    by thelordofhell

  • July 26, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    He's goin' home to see Cannibal Holocaust

    by thelordofhell

  • July 26, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    rebeck2

    by brightgeist

    oh, and i forgot to address your point about a "solution". <br> i definitely don't suggest that we STOP such movies from being made/released. i advocate freedom of expression. <br> but what i do suggest is that we (the audience) understand this escalation process and don't support movies like that. don't buy it, then it won't be produced. <br> of course that requires the audience to be educated about society and the media. and since you said "If society is sick, then work to make it better"... i actually do try to help with that, as an active supporter of the Zeitgeist Movement and a Resource-Based Economy. look into it if you're interested.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    He's goin' home to see Human Centipede

    by thelordofhell

  • July 26, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    He's goin' home to see Nekromantik

    by thelordofhell

  • July 26, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST

    battle_royale_with_cheese

    by brightgeist

    i don't mind, i'm 35. you can check out my facebook profile if you want to verify that, it's the same as my nickname here. or ask Harry, he knows me from last years BNAT ;) <br> and yeah, i do consider myself young :D when i spoke about young people before, i meant people about half my age.

  • July 26, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    No need to card ya, Bright

    by schadenfreudian

    Just wanted some context for your statements. Thanks.

  • July 26, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST

    interesting topic, but late...

    by brightgeist

    gonna watch some DOCTOR WHO or something and then sleep, it's 2 am over here. good talking to ya guys, bye

  • July 26, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST

    McWeeny nearly getting into a fight? LMAO

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy

    You'd at least think that these fat, smelly geek site 'journos', like McWeeny and Devin Faraci, would at least have the common sense to realize that they could very easily get knocked the fuck out if they try any of their usual schtick in real life. I guess all the years of insulting the readership on the message boards and forums of their sites has sheltered them from reality. Sure, they can insult people without recourse online, but if they try that nonsense at any 'live' appearances one of the audience is likely to make a good stab at clocking them - or at least verbally tearing them a new asshole.

  • July 26, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    I've been in over 40 films ....

    by Ian Meek

    Have you ever seen tremors 5 ????!!!!

  • July 26, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Bettis was quirky and attractive in May

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    but after seeing her in the previous shitty season of Dexter, I've realized that the years are not being kind to her. Either that or McKee has a makeup wizard in his employ.

  • July 26, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    He's going home to watch A Serbian Film

    by nuprin

  • July 26, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Not offensive looking...just stupid

    by runfoodrun

    We all love certain directors and defend even their worst films, but AICN staff really stand up for some lousy shit. The list is too long, but Gang Tapes anyone? Anyway... What about that says "watch me?" Being serious here, help me.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    @johnnyrandom

    by torontoxic

    I'm really not. I'm probably just at a point in my life in terms of intellect and maturity that affords me a perspective on this you can't understand. I get the argument in favour of the piece of shit movie being discussed here and its a card that's been overplayed. There are times when gore or scenes that crash through a sane person's morals are required and warranted. Then there is the pure shit that gets made that uses the legit instances as precedent to try and get away with glorifying violence and using that as its only appeal. If anything people opposed to censorship should be open to the idea of it when people abuse their authority and subject viewers to horrible fucking movies like May because when a great movie comes along that should be enjoyed in spite of the gore it will be the one to get censored. Yes there is a clearly defined line and creativity and genius are at least broadly quantifiable. I can very easily make an argument as to how May (and likely this thing) is a badly made movie and the only thing the creators had to rely on in order to get some attention was making it gory and morally objectionable. A 10 year old could get attention that way too and they do. Its called a tantrum. When you do it through making a stupid ass movie its called being a hack. I' probably lost you after the first sentence. Which is why you are in fact the idiot.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    offended guy is a stunt?

    by knowthyself

    Looks fake.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    That was a very polite and civilized "nearly getting into a fight"

    by moonlightdrive

  • July 26, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    With Comic Con going on this is the best news they have?

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • July 26, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Lucky McKee + Angela Bettis =

    by Hercules

    awesome. get your hands on "May" and/or "Sick Girl" ASAP.

  • July 26, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Compared to "Deadgirl"

    by Clio

    If you think "Deadgirl" was sick, then you don't want to see "The Woman." I saw them both and if you thought they were great films.....please.....stay away from me. I have never been for censoring movies, and never will be, but if I tell someone not to watch either of these, that will probably just want to make them see it even more. In both films, the actions of the male characters are loathsome....yeah, they need to be taken out of the gene pool. Don't confuse the movie "Dead Girl" with "Deadgirl." Two different films.

  • Just like when the badguy calls Hitgirl a bitch when he gets blasted. If you've been blasted by a gunshot, calling someone a name is going to be very low on your instinctual response list. This is getting to be a common screw-up in modern films. Also, the woman rolling the severed finger around in her mouth with a fuck-me face reduces this to mud porn.

  • July 26, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST

    THIS IS MUD PORN

    by Wacky Packages

  • July 26, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST

    SUCKING A SEVERED FINGER WITH A FUCK-ME FACE = PORN

    by Wacky Packages

  • July 26, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    I don't agree with this guy talking about burning the film

    by ShamelessElitist

    But judging from the trailer, the film looks more like trash than art.

  • July 26, 2011, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Oh no! Misogny! Where's Vern to moralize about this?!

    by Bobo_Vision

  • July 26, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST

    I went to a screening of this with Lucky Mckee in attendance

    by Clabog592

    I go to Emerson College (Jack Ketchum and the producer are alumni) and they set up a screening at the school. I felt a little bad as very few people showed up, but those who went seemed to really enjoy it. The film itself is MUCH better then this trailer makes it out to be, and everyone willing to stomach the more brutal aspects of the movie should definitely check it out. The performances were very convincing, especially from the son (he does things in this movie that very few children have ever done on screen.) The movie will make you uncomfortable and some scenes, especially those involving the domestic violence, can be very hard to watch. Luckily the film has a very satisfying ending IMO, enough so that I would definitely re-watch it. Now, the movie has gotten flack because of the film's degrading content toward its female character's. Having seen it, the film does NOT glorify abusing women in any way. In fact, I would say Lucky Mckee is something of a feminist. After the film ended, some students and I got to ask Mckee himself quite a few questions. He expressed to us how sad he was that some people at Sundance were so offended by the film, as that was the opposite reaction he wanted it to get. He went on to say that he made the movie to make people who see it more aware of the fact that domestic violence is is happening all around us, and that it is very real. He never wanted people to think he was promoting this behavior. Crossing my fingers this gets some sort of legitimate release sometime soon.

  • and chicken eaters.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:01 a.m. CST

    bsb, then you must hate yourself

    by Bobo_Vision

    Because you're one of the biggest moralizers on AICN. See articles on Kick Ass/Hit Girl, Roman Polanski, and any political article for reference.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:05 a.m. CST

    BOBO

    by BSB

    Yeah, but I don't do it at the theater. It's called decorum.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Cool

    by Bobo_Vision

    BSB, how's life treating you? We should hang out.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:08 a.m. CST

    LIFE'S GOOD BOBO

    by BSB

    The heat dome finally lifted and my balls are smooth and fresh again. We should see Captain America together. I could use a hand.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Come to Saskatchewan, Canada, BSB

    by Bobo_Vision

    I don't live in NYC anymore. My Uncle would love to give you a hand. The three of us can see Cap'n America together. Good times. I think I can get CreepyThinMan to join us, too.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN SASKATCHEWAN, BOBE?

    by BSB

    I know America is going down the shitter turbo speed, but that's still no reason to leave the country! If your uncle and CTM wouldn't mind donning Thor and Cap outfits, we got a date.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Bad trailer, good film....

    by Jarek

    And it's very far removed from OFFSPRING. Same actress and character, whole new feel.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I'm a Canadian by birth

    by Bobo_Vision

    I tried getting a career in NYC, but the man kept me down. But I'm finally on the up and ups here in Saskatchewan for the next few years. After that my career will be solidified and I can go where I want....and get that cheddar. <p> I'll arrange for me, my Uncle, and CreepyThinMan to meet you in NYC. There's nothing going on here in Saskatchewan. And I know CTM has a boner for all things having to do with NYC. We can get some sushi, go to a strip club, and then jerk each other off. It'll be great!

  • July 27, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    IF ONLY 2FOR2TRUE WERE AT THE SCREENING

    by BSB

    Captain Indignant's balls would've become lollipops.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST

    GOOD ON YA BOBO

    by BSB

    NYC is nothing but a filthy cesspool anyway. That Alicia Keys song is full of shit. We'll take care of CTM's boner post haste. Well, maybe not haste.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    It won't take long

    by Bobo_Vision

    I hear CTM has a small one. That's why he's so angry.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    OUCH, DUDE.

    by BSB

    Are you sure you wanna be saying that while living in the same province as him? Anyway gotta go, gotta toil for the fucking man bright and early. Later ...

  • July 27, 2011, 1 a.m. CST

    CTM lives in Hamilton, Ontario

    by Bobo_Vision

    And he knows I love him. He loves me, too. We're gonna meet in the restroom of a Petro Canada gas station in Winnipeg, Manitoba and do a pee pee touch. It's all been written by fate. And now, BSB...you are in part of that fate....we share the stars...

  • July 27, 2011, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Goofball?

    by Jam Banjo

    Sounds to me a reasonable man offended by people cheering a rape scene and this tired fratboy misogny that is permeating horror films. As for the girl who shouts "are you a woman?" as the guy leaves, well good for her. Except it doesn't matter that he's not a woman. I can be offended at racism even though I'm not black. She's the dumbass. But I'll say no more about it as this is clearly the kind of discourse the director wants.

  • July 27, 2011, 3 a.m. CST

    The Woods > May

    by CuervoJones

    And i like May.

  • July 27, 2011, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Hilarious

    by Sanyi

    Jesus Christ...Now, I have to see this movie right now.

  • July 27, 2011, 4:58 a.m. CST

    *Gasps* and still no sign of 'Blender.

    by Stalkeye

    Congrats Boys, for such an intense thrashing, that s/he commited "seppuku" LMMFAO

  • I concur BSB, especially in regards to the latter. (0:' Jay Z hasn't had a good hit since Kingdom Come IMO. Time to step back into retierment don'tcha think?

  • You are right Turd. However, the same could be said about some of the trolls on this site.

  • July 27, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Really

    by mayorofsmpleton

    May was probably one of the greatest horror films of the last two decades. It's a strikingly haunting character study and a truly remarkable piece of film-making. Angela Bettis gives one of the best performances of the year. It's a shame this one has fallen out of touch with the public. Thankfully when it was released it got plenty of critical acclaim. It's not an easy film to watch but it's spectacular. I wasn't the biggest fan of The Woods but I could tell what the aim was. A missed effort. Roman was pretty good but nothing too incredible. Do people really think a film depicting violence must therefore support it? Do the makers of Friday the 13th want to see teenagers brutally slaughtered? Is Saving Private Ryan promoting war? Is Juno advocating teen pregnancy? I Spit on Your Grave promotes rape? The difference is that IPOYG uses rape as a cheap excuse to play out a revenge fantasy for the audience... which is why it's nowhere near Last House on the Left or similar films. Lucky McKee's films are NOT tales that glorify violence -- especially towards women. Listen to his commentary for MAY and you'll hear a very kind person who enjoys exploring cultural taboos. The things done by the males in the film are reprehensible? Are they not the villains of the piece? Wake up -- people do horrible things every day. I read a newspaper article about a man who pricked his wife with an HIV infected needle because he was HIV positive and she wouldn't sleep with him... "I did it so she'd be like me -- and then she wouldn't leave me and we could be together." For the record, people fainted during showings of The Exorcist too. Should that film have been banned? The guy was removed not because he was arguing... if you listen to the conversation what happened is clear. They were doing the Q&A and he refused to wait his fucking turn. It's not hard to believe that based on how he never lets anyone get a word in. He wouldn't shut up so they took him outside the theater and then instead of just tossing him on his ass, which they had every right to do... they calmly tried to let him express his anger and outrage. I haven't seen The Woman, and I'm curious to give it a sample but I have a hard time believing he glorified violence towards women in the film. Domestic Abuse is a very serious situation -- with million of women suffering every single day in a male dominated society. I fail to see how making a film that portrays these types of stories glorifies them. Sounds like the guy has no concept of subtext or theme... Censorship is wrong, no matter how you cut it. People are more than welcome to LOOK AWAY and not see the films they wish not to see but to try to control what other adults do is total bullshit. Cheering rape? Seriously? There are plenty of films made solely for the purpose of shocking the audience (early John Waters, The Human Centipede) and Lucky doesn't really make movies like that. Will I enjoy the film? No clue. I'm going to see it -- but those acting like the guy wasn't a total tool are fools. These men are security guards working for the film festival. The man was causing a disturbance... they don't need to let him talk -- and the "douche" at the end... you mean the guy who calmly explains the situation for exactly what it is? -- "you're not letting them talk, etc..." Is The Woman going to be anywhere near as good as any of the films I mentioned above? I doubt it -- but I don't think that means it deserves to be censored because a few morons can't tell the difference between social satire and glorifying violence.

  • July 27, 2011, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Having read the book...

    by BangoSkank

    I have a difficult time believing it's been turned into a "dark comedy". Which doesn't necessarily mean there isn't some dark humor infused among the horror, I guess. And to answer another posters question, "The Woman" is actually the third book in a trilogy. The first two are "Off Season" and "Offspring"... But it really stands on its own.

  • July 27, 2011, 9:01 a.m. CST

    I think the guy was shaken, not just by the film.....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ....but by the audience reaction to it. People cheering at the most horrifying parts of it. That's the problem with audiences of films like this. They really do get off on things that they shouldn't. The defenders of this film claim that it is pro-women and meant to make you have a visceral reaction.....but they don't really address the people in the audience who cheer when the woman gets abused. I think that may have been the most disturbing part for this man. <p> I've been to films with audiences like this at film festivals, and they really are an idiotic bunch. They revel in filth. The more vile, the more they cheer. This is something that Drew Mcweeny didn't address in his review. How does he, or others, who claim this film is pro-feminist, feel about audience members taking glee when the woman gets abused?

  • July 27, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    @bobo_vision

    by Franck

    I fully second that (e)motion.

  • July 27, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Ban that tuckered out bastard from all movie theaters.

    by Kyle

    That guy who was complaining and bitching like a baby should be banned from every movie theater in the world until he croaks. Going to see a movie is a gamble...you put down the money, and hope you're gonna enjoy it. Sometimes you don't, and I guess with a festival like Sundance you may not get a back story/previews for a film prior to seeing it (I don't know how it works, but i'd love to be there in place of that fuck-wad seeing these movies before everyone else), but if the movie's really upsetting you that much, and the crowd reactions are also upsetting you, get up and walk out, don't be a tool and try to ruin shit for people having a good time who can handle a fucking FICTIONAL MOVIE with FICTIONAL FILMED EVENTS that are NOT REAL. That douche with the love bug up his ass needs to understand that people get excited over the use of practical bloody effects in movies, it's just something that has enticed cheers and applause since way back in the days when Tom Savini and others started it up!

  • July 27, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    genderbender, genderbender, genderbender

    by Stabby

    Here's hoping she's like Beetlejuice.

  • July 27, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I bet that dude is actually genderbender.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • July 27, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Couple Things

    by Rebeck2

    1) I think Drew or indeed any man or woman above the age of 18 could have taken this guy. He looks like he has the muscle tone of a bowl of oatmeal. 2) Bobo & Flynn - Nobody knows how the audience reacted or why. You're taking the word of a demented idiot.

  • July 27, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    RE:"Here's hoping she's like Beetlejuice. "

    by Stalkeye

    Or more like Candyman.

  • that every male is a rapist or a rapist in the making in the case of the young boy. Didn't see this, and won't, but it reminds me of Teeth in this regard. In that movie, every male that the girl with the teeth encounters turns out to be a rapist. This is not feminism. It is misogynistic rape fantasy exploitation in the guise of feminism. It there wasn't the man-hating aspect these filmmakers couldn't get away with their rape fantasies. That said, I'm against censorship but for boycotting.

  • July 27, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    @Rebeck2, please read the below quote

    by Franck

    from Dustin Rowles and care to comment: "I just don’t understand why the need to depict brutal, agonizing mysogyny to make a point about mysogyny, especially when that point is largely missed by most of the people who would watch such a movie. To put it another way: What if The Woman were about a gay man, and instead of “civilizing” her, the man was raped and tortured in order to rid him of the gay. Could Lucky McKee then realistically support an anti-homophobic message by suggesting that a gay man needed to be beaten and raped to prove that point? If I Spit On Your Grave was about a man who was beaten, tortured, and gang raped, would other men cheer when he got his revenge? No. Probably because no man would watch that movie. Most men couldn’t bear the thought of watching another man — straight or gay — being brutally gang raped, but if the genders are reversed, it’s a revenge fantasy."

  • BENT.

  • July 27, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    It worked!

    by Stabby

    Now, let's see genderblender top that!

  • July 27, 2011, 3 p.m. CST

    d.vader, no, the guy is just stupid.

    by AsimovLives

    He's probably one of those types that things that movies should be entertaining and that dumb is entertaining.

  • July 27, 2011, 3 p.m. CST

    Very strong film

    by clupula

    Just saw it this afternoon. It takes on a whole different context if you've seen "The Offspring." I do have a question, though, for someone who also saw it, or maybe it'd better for the guy who read the book: Who was *SPOILERS* the random dog woman in the pen? Was that another member of the tribe that he had captured earlier? Did I miss something, because I could swear there was only the tiniest mention of anything even going on in the pen, earlier in the film. *END SPOILERS*

  • Do not disapoint me, girl.

  • July 27, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Man...

    by Jordan Scrivner

    That video of the angry dude is EPICK.

  • July 27, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    genderbender's right up there, Asi.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Going on and on about women in film or some shit.

  • July 27, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by AsimovLives

    It's her shit, and we all love her for it. Even her haters. At least she has a voic eof her own. The same cannot be said by most people in here, can it? By the way, thanks to your recomendations, i'm watching DEADWOOD, and i'm fucking loving it. Damn good show! Thanks for the recomendation, friend.

  • Shows he can get work outside the Gem. Stand on his own two feet like a fuckin' man.

  • Good. Now, that dirt worshipin', goat fuckin', Portuguese cocksucker will finally know who he's dealing with.

  • July 27, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Excellent!

    by jorson28

    Yet another fine exampe of humanity thriving on confict, and why not? Proof is that sometimes, the same types of peope that attend anti-war rallies get their kicks from horror movies like this. Of course, the usual response is,"Well, this is just a movie." Okay... Either you like to see violence and conflict or you don't. I, for one, like horror movies. I have a definition of my own for what is or is not "excess," and I think relying too much upon verbal vulgarity in any movie shows a general lack of creativity and skil. Still, I think it's a borderline necessity that peope find a way to vent their baser, more so-called "negative" and violent feelings and to deal with the truth of those tendencies in most, if not all of us. I'm someone of faith and a lot of fellow Christians, in particuar, speak out against this stuff. Yet, if you made a truly accurate movie out of most of the Bibe, the level of violence and even sexual activity would arguably be at NC-17 levels. This is why so-called "peaceniks" never really come out on top. It's an inherenty hypocritical and disingenuous thing to say, "I'm totally peaceful - I want world peace - I don't condone any violence and try hard to avoid conflict in general." Please. We pick fights to perpetuate causes about which almost everything of value has already been said, and why? To advance the cause? Is someone really going to tell me that Lucky McKee made this movie to advance the cause of equal standing between men and women in the home and workplace? Logically, if that were his GENUINE intention, then he'd at least be smart enough not to do things that he probably knows will alienate the idiots like the guy in the video that probably need to hear his message the most! It is one thing to frighten people for the sake of warning them or of conveying a lesson, but plenty of movies have done that successfully WITHOUT intentionally provoking this sort of ire via excess, etc. - and though I've obviously not seen the movie, based upon the artice here on AICN and that written by Mr. McWheeney, I seriousy doubt that provocation was not McKee's intention and woud not believe anyone that tried to tell me otherwise. As for any political elements to this, I can't see how this movie would help either party - though that's not to say the movie isn't good (or bad). Assuming that the Democrats are the ones that allow women and minorities their human rights and dignities, then my guess is that this movie woud have the exact opposite effect - that is, on thos that actually need to hear and heed its message - because the natural conclusion must be, "this party and its voters are clearly angry peope that delight in using depictions of depravity to promote what they also say are worthy causes - they clearly hate me based on their assumptions, informed by stereotypes - therefore, there is absolutey no upside in voting for them and/or supporting their cause in this form and fashion." And while I currently don't believe either dominant political party in the U.S. deserves much respect, this is precisely why (to my knowledge, at least) a majority of religious Republicans won't try to discourage abortion by making movies in which audiences see mid-to-late term "fetus" being rendered limb from limb by a miniature vacuum cleaner. They've done worse, like shooting doctors - which I'd never condone, of course - but nothing as genuinely stupid and counter-productive (however entertaining) as what I just described. Oh, and by the way, if you don't like my description of abortion because "it's every woman's right," well... Sorry. Maybe some third-grade-level namecalling, accusations of ignorance and Fascism and cleverly used four-letter words aimed my way will make you feel better. That is how many of you Talkbackers deal with most Christians and alleged-Republicans on this site, isn't it? Anyhow, I've had my say. Bye.

  • July 27, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    PS:My approach in my posting

    by jorson28

    My last post was in honor of what Mr. McKee is allegedly doing with this film for the sake of standing up for oppressed women (based upon what I read here). To state my position and opinion, I am being intentionally "brutal," darkly comic and potentially wounding. Of course, I doubt that if my post were a movie that most at Sundance would applaud - even though everyone gets their say - but, que sera. Oh, and I guess I was lying when I said I was done before. NOW I'm done. Bye (again).

  • July 28, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Weird.

    by 3774

    This is like watching dueling Stewies, and trying to figure out which one is the 'real' one. With the feeling that no matter how it turns out, i'm going to end up in the kitchen making sandwhiches for Choppa and Co. This place is extremly homophobic, and also racist, but post-modernism is non-sense. 'Gender-anything' as an alias (or projected image) almost always leads to trans/genderqueer identification and politics, with all the complicated insanity all that brings. It's a movie forum. And trolling it in the name of a social observation experiment is assinine, not insightful.

  • July 28, 2011, 5:10 a.m. CST

    WTF happened to the BATTLESHIP story?

    by D.Vader

    AICN you need to GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.

  • July 28, 2011, 5:19 a.m. CST

    I'll wait for THE KITCHEN to come out next year

    by YackBacker

    and it's inevitable sequels THE LAUNDRY and THE WORK IN BED. (yawn) Coffee time...

  • July 28, 2011, 8:02 a.m. CST

    GenderBlender doesn't post what's in her heart. She posts lies.

    by D.Vader

    Its been proven.

  • July 28, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    For instance, lie #1 in this thread

    by D.Vader

    GB - "I try to comment fairly on the movies and shows" All evidence to the contrary. All comments usually fueled by lies, misinformation, but always with bias with an eye toward angering people here. Like a Troll.

  • July 28, 2011, 10:19 a.m. CST

    video guy

    by AssyMuffJizz

    Actually, I thought he was kind of hot.

  • July 28, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST

    @ genderblender

    by 3774

    i have been reading this site for years and years, and have been a life-long Gen-X geek as well. But only recently have i started reading the forums. i would glance at them in the past, but the wave of OMG YOU FUCKING SUCK NO YOU SUCK FAG ASSHOLE BITCH in the posts drove me away. So to be honest, i'm unclear about the difference between you and 'bender', since both of you seem to imply the other is lying or something. i don't know. Out of pure boredom i was trying to find all the opinions i could about Sucker Punch, and read a couple in a thread (i think they were done by Choppah, not sure) that made me laugh so hard i almost pee'd myself (something absurd about 'fluffing and stroking it's audience to full release', or some such non-sense). Since then i started looking around the threads. It's always such a drag when i'm lurking on a really good thread and it goes to crap with pointless, right-or-wrong thinking and comparisons, or the homophobic & racist crap. And then i snap, and do something stupid like say something like in the Snow White thread, which looked like i was defending the movie when i was actually defending the idea. Beating these guys over the head isn't going to change bad behavior or solve anything. It's just going to cause resentment and exhaust yourself in the process. i consider myself a feminist because i refuse to be considered an object, i just want my opinion to be considered. That's all. But i love men, and have no interest in hating them, or lashing out in pointless anger over awful crap committed against us in the past. Men are who they are. And i have enough of a sense of humor to understand that. i only react with anger when there's no respect. Save that for the misogynistic little man-childs, not men who are just being men. 'Where's my sandwhich' is a play on stereotypes, which are something i can play right backl. For instance, men don't have the part of our brain that makes complex emotions and higher though processes possible. Mostly it's just a big lump of fat in that area to keep their head from flopping over while they watch football. Try to keep things in perspective, and stop being so angry all the time. Also: For pure offensiveness, i haven't seen anything yet that tops the infamy of the spanking scene in McClintock.

  • July 28, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    al swearengen, i'm seth bullock to you, cocksucker.

    by AsimovLives

  • Oct. 16, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I like this movie the first time it was made

    by Trina Johnson

    I already saw this idea done in "Jessicka Rabid". I guess that Lucky McKee guy ran out of originality so he resorted to stealing concepts. I almost turned this movie off early cause it was slurping a fat dong.

  • Oct. 16, 2011, 10:26 p.m. CST

    by Wes

    You know....this movie seems so much like another movie I know...