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THE AVENGERS are now fully assembled in pre-production art form!

Hey folks, Harry here...   Watching COMIC CON from afar has been fun this year.   Sure, I'd love to be there, I always want to be there, but I took this year off to focus on rehab and happily, I was rewarded by beginning walker work, which will eventually lead to me leaving the chair behind, finally.  But following the folks on Twitter as they go through the Comic Con experience.   Still, I wish I could've spent at least a day or two checking out the Dealer's areas, looking at new toys, meeting fans, meeting folks that I'm a fan of...  and just taking in the crazy geek Mardi Gras of it all.   

MARVEL absolutely knows how to play COMIC CON - releasing  pieces of a large AVENGERS Mural that have only been completed today.   Yesterday, they debuted these two:




With these two posters we suddenly realized that we were missing the HULK - and that the posters all fit together.   I was genuinely curious if MARVEL was going to give us a look at the new HULK design - and they did...  and it's very old school KIRBY inspired.   Love it.


Lastly - here's the complete assembly...  This is a movie we get to actually see in less than a year.   That's just.  Really?  Wow.   Less than a year till a full on AVENGERS movie from Joss Whedon?   Giggle.  Only a redhead could do this justice...  and if not, I might need to dye my hair.   Here it is...

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  • July 24, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST


    by 10broeck

    Love it

  • July 24, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by Jack

    Mama :D

  • July 24, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Can I get a Captain America Obit?

    by Philbert


  • July 24, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Hulk looks good

    by TakeItEasyMon

    Still worried about 2 hours of Whedon dialogue..

  • July 24, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by DonnyUnitas

    speechless. in a good way.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Looks Good.

    by ShogunMaster

    I hope it's all worth it when it comes out. So far it was only the first Iron Man that was great. The rest are ok to meh. Hopefully Assembled, they will be awesome..

  • July 24, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST


    by Philbert

    Please, Please Please do not fuck this movie up, hollyweird.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Fucking nice.

    by DepressedDonkey

    Can't fucking wait for this movie. Holy hell.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    im hard

    by ORIONgods

  • July 24, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Suh-weet!!! Finally a Great Hulk!!!

    by THX1968

    Cap was a great movie, my favorite so far this year. I still have to see Thor. Yet, Avengers seems to be coming together very, very nicely. The thing that has me most excited is we are finally getting a Hulk that looks like The Hulk!!! Not some GQ version of the ever-loving green goliath!!!

  • July 24, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    wait a minute

    by mick vance

    where's batman?

  • July 24, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    still needs Giant-Man and Wasp!

    by oisin5199

    make it happen Joss!

  • July 24, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Cobie Smulders' Maria Hill

    by YackBacker

    Agent of H.O.T.N.E.S.S.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    and I can't wait to see Captain America again.

    by The Krypton Kid

  • July 24, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    OK, I'm sold

    by Steve

    What a wonderful time to be alive. We get to see our childhood passion brought to the masses in a way that embraces and reflects what this meant to us, sitting in our rooms and dreaming of having adventures with super heroes.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Now that is a fucking poster

    by DoubleFantasy

    I'm not even an avengers fan but dear lord that is magnificent.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST


    by Darran Goggin

    Now that I have your attention..... Roll on the avengers!!!!!

  • July 24, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Is that Agent Coulson back there in poster2?

    by Longtime Lurker

    Looks like he's bringing his A-game. :)

  • July 24, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Is That Maria Hill Behind Samuel L. Fury? Who Is Playing Her?

    by NeonFrisbee

    Cool banner poster, btw...

  • July 24, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Captain America was the best "Marvel" movie so far. FACT!

    by welcometothepartypal

    Iron man second, Thor, Incredible Hulk, than Iron man 2. o.k. maybe not fact, but IMHO. BE AWESOME AVENGERS!!!!

  • July 24, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Question to anyone

    by Err

    Does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that Coulson is a Skrull?

  • July 24, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by Everette Hartsoe


  • July 24, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by Everette Hartsoe


  • July 24, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Wow an old school movie poster.

    by Smashing

    No photoshopped crapness, that imagery is beautiful.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    now *THAT* is The Hulk!

    by Righteous Brother

    Hulk SMASH puny box office!!! Wonder who the villain will be, would love it, if it was The Skrulls, or Kang.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    they changed hulk again?

    by Bouncy X

    since the last movie is part of this universe, i figured they would have used the same design for continuity's sake since they recasted the role already. he seems to have that short mop top/crew cut thing going like he has lately, i guess Shield made him get it. :P

  • July 24, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Saw Cap twice, it was great both times.

    by shutupfanboy

    I have no idea why Hawkeye's costume looks like Thor's costume. I do hope they go all the way with Black Widow being a traitor.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST


    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Cobie Smulders - the woman Joss jokingly would've cast in the role of Wonder Woman.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    About time we had a Kirby looking Hulk!


    Looks cool from that poster.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    For fuck's sake Harry, don't type 'Giggle.'

    by flax

    It's sickening.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Complete Banner

    by Wade Wilson Fucking beautiful. Avengers Assemble!

  • July 24, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Shame we couldn't have had a Hulk like that.....


    in the last 2 films.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    here are the HUGE pics of it, LOOKS GREAT

    by Jonathhan Kana and here for all of them: fill in the spaces as usual

  • July 24, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Sorry but Xmen 2 is still the best

    by sunwukong86

  • July 24, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    I can't see Evans leading the Avengers

    by sunwukong86

    I'm starting to think Tony Stark will be leading them like in the comics. Cap didn't take over for a while. Evans's Cap isn't really a strong leader yet. I could see him leading in Avengers 2 maybe

  • July 24, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Captain Marvel.

    by 3774

    Who's going to lead them? The unpredictable rage-a-holic, the narcissistic drunk, the disoriented man displaced from time, or the disoriented man displaced from space? Monica Rambeau would keep it all in line. Make it happen.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I dont know why this isn't catching with me

    by Rex Carsalot

    It looks gorgeous, they put a lot of effort into it, they have terrific casting...but I just can't dig it for some reason. It seems a little dark and gloomy - like some kind of Cobra sequel. Eh. Too picky.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Like the new look for Hulk.

    by Orbots Commander

    As much as I enjoyed The Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton, I thought they went too 'Brad Pitt' or Esquire magazine with the Hulk's look. Hint: he's not supposed to be handsome with wavy hair.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Where's Abbott & Costello?

    by fustfick

    Can't forget to leave them off the one sheet!

  • July 24, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    no way will they be led by Fury for any length of time if at all

    by AssyMuffJizz

  • July 24, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Damn that Hulk looks PISSED

    by D.Vader

    I LOVE the design. And I gotta say, I love that we're going to have gotten three different Hulk incarnations and three different designs over three movies. That's cool.

  • The rest of those people are fucking useless.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I guess Thor doesn't have his new Avengers costume yet...

    by D.Vader

    Nice to see Colbie Smulders in there.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST


    by solitaire

    Well, all seems to be coming along nicely. Bets on if the widow will follow her ultimates incarnation? If you don't know what I mean, google it or read the books, but it might be one helluva spoiler.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Tiny nose, big mouth, heavy brow- GREAT Hulk design!

    by D.Vader

  • July 24, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST


    by solitaire

    Yeah, I am firmly in the "I loved the Norton film, but damn is that Hulk so much better looking" boat. BTW...was the female shield agent at the end of Cap maria hill or Sharon Carter? I figured it was Sharon based on the resemblance to Peggy.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Gotta agree on HULK praise

    by BenBraddock

    They nailed the Cro-Magnon aspect perfectly! Finally! YES! Hope it'sa not just for the poster though...

  • That cuban missle crisis showdown just didnt seem right to me. Never felt the urgency. Also wasnt a fan of the civil rights movement having no effect on the plot.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST


    by Lee

    HUUUUUUUUULK! *You'll like him when he's well designed* ...or something.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Probably Sharon Carter since she was yelling code 13 into her radio.

    by whatevillurks

  • July 24, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Thor looks like he's watching himself flying at us..weird

    by alienindisguise

  • July 24, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Fact:Gingers have no soul.

    by Eric

  • July 24, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    by Rachel


  • July 24, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    anyone else think

    by mick vance

    odin is checking out thor's ass?

  • C.A.: 'It's no good Hulk, your awesome strength can't win this, we need a guy with a bow and arrow to stop this alien invasion.' Iron Man: 'Yeah, my repulsor technology and Thors god like power aren't enough, better get the guy with the bow and arrow to save our puny asses!' Hawkeye: 'Stand aside bitches let me take down this superpowered army with my bow and arrow!' Black Widow: 'WTF! who you callin' a bitch, you Robin Hood fag. God I wish i was Catwoman.'

  • July 24, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I really really HATE Black Widow and Hawkeye...

    by LowDevil

    They dont fit in the movie and can be squished like a bug by any of the 4 wearing a blindfold. Wish we could see only Cap, IM, Hulk and Thor as the only heros kicking ass for 2+ hours.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    @whatevillurks totally agree

    by sunwukong86

    Stan Lee created the X-men to make a statement about the civil rights movement. What do they emphasize about the 60's in the movie? The Cuban Missile Crisis, out of all things.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    re- the Howling Commandos and Bucky-

    by simpledao4

    Anyone else feel some backstory was missing? How did Bucky wind up with them?

  • July 24, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Which one is Dum Dum Dugan?

    by Mr Lucas

    He'd better be in it!

  • July 24, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Explain to me: WHY does Hawkeye looks like SHIT ????

    by Big Dumb Ape

    Seriously, I don't get it. You're making a SUPERHERO comic book movie. EVERYONE ELSE gets a colorful, doofy costume. No need to apologize for it -- that's the FUN of it. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPERHEROES. So why the fuck does everyone get a costume that is a nice representation of their comic book personas, but Hawkeye has to look "real"? What, like I need to believe an archer with incredible aim is "real" in this kind of movie? WHAT THE FUCK, why does Hawkeye need to look "realistic" considering he's going to be fighting alongside a huge ass CGI green HULK thing???

  • July 24, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Sweet Zombie Jesus!! That's an awesome poster!!

    by thelordofhell

    But what the hell happened to War Machine? Are we gonna see Giant-Man or The Wasp?

  • July 24, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Please Let Hulk Look Like That!

    by filegumbo

    I would love a departure from the Hulk as he appeared in the recent movie. Not the steroid bodybuilder but a primal, blocky beast.

  • July 24, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    catchtheman wins

    by awardgiver

    the dumbass troll award...congrats!

  • July 24, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    I Assume Hulk Will Speak

    by filegumbo

    Also, please let the Hulk speak. I think to be a part of a team he has to have the ability. Make him a suspicious brute with a tenuous connection to the other Avengers.

  • July 24, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Next summer will be INSANE...

    by SK229

    Between this, TDKR, The Hobbit, and Prometheus, it marks quite a few milestones in cinema...

  • As it is implied by Norton's green eyes and sly smile, Banner is learning to Hulk out at will and control it.

  • July 24, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Will either be the most epic movie of all time or awful

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Praying for epic and so stoked for this I cannot even begin to find the right words. Goddamn those look awesome.

  • July 24, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Um, that Hulk looks just like the comics --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- what's going on here!

  • July 24, 2011, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Hulk difference

    by bohdi71

    Interesting that they would redo the hulk again considering that all the 3d models from the last movie would be sitting in a computer. Would have saved money and much needed time if they did the continuity thing. I guess they went to a different post production company to do hulk this time...

  • July 24, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    The only worry is Whedon

    by gumbyandpokey

    His cutesy dialogue can get Diablo Cody-like irritating and listening to it for two hours...I just don't know. And what is a Colbie Smulders? Is that someone's real name?!?!

  • It's hard to imagine how they're going to make a film work with all of these people on screen. I feel a similar sense of, "how can they pull this off?" as I did before Thor, and they nailed that one, so I'm hopeful for this one. The filler (SHIELD, Black Widow, maybe Hawkeye) is what worries me at this early point. Every bit of time taken to give them something meaningful is time taken away from the Big 4. Hoping it will be akin to the supporting cast in Cap, or even less screen time. Just PLEASE don't set up the Big 4 as stumblebums one-upped by the regular humans listed above. RESPECT the material by RESPECTING the power difference, and let the heroes let it rip, as in the Thor and Cap films.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST


    by Brian Hopper

    This is coming together way better than I expected. But agree with others above that the problem is apt to be hours of grating Whedon cutesiness. But I'm not sure even he can screw this up.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Wheres Mrs Peel?

    by HornOrSilk

    She's needed!

  • July 24, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo is starting to look like Ray Wise

    by MooseMalloy

  • July 24, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    @sunwukong86 re: Cap as leader

    by kevred

    I had the same sense after watching the Cap film (which I liked a lot) - he doesn't seem ready to lead the team yet, especially not this team. Ready to be right in the heart of the action, for sure. But not seasoned enough, somehow. Even with the (very minor Cap spoiler ahead) montage sequence in the Cap film, which suggested he led the team on a long series of successful raids and battles against Hydra, he still felt a little 'fresh' and more of a soldier than commander by the end, and with the Red Skull being the limit of his conquests so far, it's hard to imagine him being full leader of these other guys who've beaten some bigger baddies. But as a tactical leader in battle scenes? I'd completely buy that. I can see the Avengers essentially leading by committee - Fury "organizes" them and sends them on missions, Black Widow and Hawkeye provide field intelligence/guidance from SHIELD, Cap leads the way as they leap into battle, Thor and Hulk take point when the 'oh crap' baddie steps up, and Iron Man... well, hard to see this Tony Stark leading a team, but I can see him functioning like a super-powered version of what we saw Howard Stark do in Cap. If we get an Avenger film that has an example of everything I just listed above, I think I'll be pretty darned happy. If it does really well, maybe Hank Pym and Ultron in Avengers 2?

  • July 24, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Ruffalo looks like a good Banner/Hulk to me.

    by kevred

    I think out of everyone who's played him so far, pulling his features into the Hulk would work best. And I could see him outdoing even Bana for playing the guy not able to control something. @bohdi71, a new actor may explain what you're commenting on.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Will the actual movie match the poster's awesomeness this time?

    by Triple_J_72

    Rarely does this occur.

  • This Banner looks Fantastic.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    The short-haired female SHIELD agent

    by kevred

    Looks to be a character named Maria Hill, and reading a description of that character, she sounds like just the ridiculous shoehorned-in, implausibly-young-and-tough-for-her-position (one-time director of SHIELD?) character that fanboy come-lately comic writers of the last 15 years love to plug into established comic titles. She has Whedon written all over her. Then again, it looks like this will be the actress from How I Met Your Mother, so I am conflicted, because she would be more enjoyable to see in a catsuit than even ScarJo. Anyone familiar with the character who can tell me why I should be hopeful instead of cynical, I will listen to.

  • All the displaced characters and shit that went on in Fox's Xmen is enough to make me welcome that Marvel is doing it right and actually using characters that are and have always been Avengers. I would've liked to see Wasp, Ms Marvel or Scarlett Witch tossed in before Black Widow and Ant Man before Hawkeye but we can't get what we want and I do like both BW and Hawkeye. Maybe it was budgetary reasons for no Wasp and Ant Man. I'm just glad it's shaping up so far so good.

  • Yeah the female Cap is cool too, had forgotten about her.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Let's hope HULK actually looks like that in the movie!

    by milesdyson

    I remember some concept art for the last two movies kind of looked like that. But then he wound up with a big, puffy cg baby face in those movies. Give me an ugly monster Hulk!

  • Seems like a no brainer!

  • July 24, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST


    by Hipshot

    It was worse than the X-Men ignoring the Civil Rights aspect: they spit in its eye by killing the only black guy in the entire film. Given that transgression, they better damned well keep their fucking hands off my history.

  • Seems kinda low for this scope of film and I've just never been sold on Whedon as a director and writer for a movie of this scope. His run on Astonishing Xmen was just fine and not great. His tv shows has been entertaining but he comes across so TVish. I think he will deliver a safe and yet entertaining movie but it probably won't be the most epic comic film of all time.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    @bob_orcis_spellchecker re: love interests

    by kevred

    According to IMDB (FWIW), only Paltrow is listed as a returning love interest from a previous film. Only other returning supporting cast listed are Paul Bettany (voice of Jarvis), Stellan Skarsgård (scientist from Thor), SHIELD folks, and Loki. But who knows, maybe we'll see more as it progresses. Personally, I'd be surprised if we ever see Natalie Portman in another Marvel film again. It was a stroke of luck for Thor to get her when they did.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Tony Stark is a consultant

    by AxeEmAll

    Anyway the whole point of Whedon in his interview before is these guys should never be in one room together with all their respective powerful egos. Seems like Cap would lead them more from a tactical perspective. But knowing how stubborn Tony is, he'd certainly make Cap's life shit.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Sony should give up it's rights to Spider Man

    by veritasses

    so he can be added to the next Avengers flick... maybe the FF too.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I Look forward to seeing "IRON MAN & FRIENDS" next summer...

    by Linguo_IS_Dead

    Because we all know that's exactly what it's gonna be. Ed Norton was the only chance this movie had of balancing out RDJ's superstar charisma!

  • July 24, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    lou ferrigno as the voice of hulk?!?

    by solitaire

    so sayeth imdb. I was so happy when people from Norton to Whedon to Arad to Ruffalo began talking up love for the Bixby/Ferrigno show and it's "fugitive" approach...that show had heart, incredibly touching sometimes (think I'm full of shit? look up the episode when Banner discovers he wasn't the first Hulk). In my mind, THAT is the way Hulk and Banner need to be, a good man running from everything and everyone he loves until he can find a way to deal with his monster. From what I have heard, that is the way they are continuing with the character. Oh, and hawkeye's costume is directly taken from The Ultimates, as are the looks and personnas of most of the characters

  • ... And that they shouldn't be because they're too weak... I gotta say, you really must not have much imagination. As someone up above mentioned, they'd be good for recon and espionage, not to mention they'd be great assassins. You can not imagine Thor, Iron Man, or even Cap sneaking in somewhere quietly to take out a few baddies or guards. The heavy hitters are the ones you drop into the middle of the shit to fuck everything up. Black Widow and Hawkeye are the ones you send in to disable security systems and take out those who could alert the big bads to the presence of the super-heroes.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    I do hope they think Thor I'

    by D.Vader

  • July 24, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST

    I do hope they think Thor is some deranged mutant

    by D.Vader

    I still haven't seen Thor so I dunno if that's out of the cards or not. But it'd be great for Tony to treat him that way.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST

    No way they could've left out Black Widow

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    Seeing more shots of S.J. in tight leather is making my pants tight as I type this.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Most importantly, who will SCORE The Avengers?

    by zillabeast

    Or did I miss that boat?

  • July 24, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    I like the Cap costume with exposed ears better

    by D.Vader

    From that first Avengers teaser poster months ago. Remember? Cap had exposed ears in that one, and what looked like raised head-wings. I liked that look better. Check it here:

  • July 24, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Where can I d/l a larger version of that??

    by ATARI

  • July 24, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Re: D.Vader

    by SK229

    I, too, was going to post something similar about how you need Black Widow and Hawkeye for recon and espionage... they smooth things out, keep the missions running, take out stuff that Thor, IM, etc. shouldn't have to deal with. It seems pretty obvious that they and SHIELD 'aim' the Avengers and grease the rails in the same way that Banner needs to learn to aim the Hulk.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    How does Hawkeye shot web?

    by DickBallsworth

    My penis is alive with excitement!

  • July 24, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Why doesn't

    by TheNipplesofGodReturns

    Sam Jackson have Snakes, Sharks And Dinosaurs painted behind him????

  • July 24, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Thanks, jonathankana

    by ATARI

  • July 24, 2011, 7:58 p.m. CST

    wow this looks fantastic

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    can't wait for this flick. and this is coming from someone who last year was dead against this movie because of Norton getting the shaft. I still think that sucks and wish he was in this.....but even w/o it looks potentially too good to pass up. I just seriously hope marvel and whedon don't fuck this up.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Right on, SK229

    by D.Vader

    Good insight. It only makes sense, right? BTW, I remember you working in the industry too somehow. Care to share? Or shall we save that for a more discreet talback.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    I still want...

    by Detached

    ... Thor's helmet and some Thor v Hulk scenes. I grew up with the early Marvel Age of Comics. And I simply cannot BELIEVE that I will see a full-on live-action AVENGERS movie in less than a year. Wow... oh, wow.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Whedon will ruin it

    by sith_rising

    all the women will be lesbians and all the men will be weenies that make pop-culture jokes about Star Wars and internet memes and say things like, "Yeah, Bruce Banner was great before he went all big giant green crunchy monster thingy" and other cutesy, smarmy self-indulgent shit.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:16 p.m. CST

    did marvel ever explain thors missing helmet?

    by vulturess

    i missed that.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST


    by Goldfingah

    Totally agree with you about Harry typing "Giggle." It just creeps me out beyond words.

  • Hulk would see Banner like he was really there and was Hulk's conscience.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Imagine Marvel got the rights to Spiderman AND X-Men back

    by Deadmouth

    We can but dream. And Rejoice that cock Rothman from Fox can't touch X-Men anymore

  • July 24, 2011, 8:36 p.m. CST

    My Awesome Detector broke.

    by Yelsaeb

  • July 24, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Whedon is not touching the script, right?

    by catlettuce4

    His dialogue is the only thing that could ruin this movie. He's just directing, as I recall... and hope. It will be amazing to see this movie happen.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    The musical score

    by catlettuce4

    Wouldn't it be nice if the other characters besides Cap already had distinctive, memorable themes so they could be worked into the score of this film and make us all cheer? Wouldn't it be cool if thy hire someone to score Avengers who is not afraid to CREATE iconic themes for each major hero? Superheroes need bold and memorable themes, like Williams did with Superman, and yes, like Elfman did with Batman. The major problem with superhero films today is the lack of the composers to recognize this. Cap's the only one who has a distinctive them in this whole lineup.

  • its the only thing that makes sense. so will a character actually say the words avengers assemble? If so, who will say it? And will there be irony involved?

  • July 24, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Hulk does look great

    by catlettuce4

    Finally he looks just like the Hulk. I wonder what DC/Warner Bros people think when they see this, and realize they could have the same epic coolness going on, if only they got their damn act together and weren't afraid to make fun, entertaining hero films that were true to the look and spirit of the traditional comics?

  • July 24, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Wedon did a pass on the avengers script and caps

    by eric haislar

    Caps script was pitch perfect.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST


    by Odkin

    Hulk looks great. That is all.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

  • July 24, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST


    by fxmulder35

    Can this be the last super hero/ comic movie? Fatigue. BIG time.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Thank you Wade!

    by NYSCO6390

    Awesome complete banner. When I tried lining up all the individual ones I had they didn't line up right.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Can I get a "Batman and Robin" obit?

    by Dr Gregory House

    You just can't kill that shit film too many times.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    canned dirty ape: shame on you

    by Rebel Scumb

    ginger girls are by far the hottest girls in the world. I don't really care about the males other than they keep passing those genes around. exhibit A: karen gillan! see also: Rebecca Mader, Julianne Moore, and all the other hot redheads out there.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Can't Type, Jizz Everywhere

    by Autodidact

    This is really cool. Bring on the JLA movie too.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Who will say Avengers Assemble?

    by Autodidact

    That's Captain America's line. Who else would say it?

  • The Helicarrier in the poster above appears to be generating the same blue light that the power sources created by the Cube did in Captain America. Interesting.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Only a redhead could do it justice

    by Tangent

    Fuck you Harry. Seriously. Knock that shit off.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    But Harry, you know firstHAND Whedon's not a real redhead...


    Keep stroking... maybe he'll send you pwesents!

  • July 24, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Didn't like the last bit with the cosmic cube (Cap spoiler)

    by kevred

    I didn't like Stark just casually sweeping in and picking up the cube at the end of Cap. It should be lost, not just turned into a ho-hum explanation for all the crazy devices we see in these Marvel films. The most outrageously good moment with the cube was when the Skull picked it up and the cosmos ripped open for a moment. THAT is the cube as it was introduced in the comics. It shouldn't just be turned into some power source for machines. If they're bringing it along for Avengers, as seems plausible, it sure better do something more fantastic and awe-inspiring than just make a lot of props glow blue.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Life has changed in one significant way, pop-culture wise

    by Autodidact

    Used to be the art on the video game cover had little to do with the way the game looked. Now it's often an image taken right out of the game and maybe photoshopped a bit. Same with movies. Used to be the monster depicted in the poster was painted to look way better than the monster in the movies, or the poster showed scenes that were way too expensive to get in the movie. These days, you get those exact images in the movie. Right off the poster.

  • July 24, 2011, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I don't buy the cosmic-cube-as-power-source angle...

    by ddmagnas

    At the end of Iron Man 2, Tony develops a new element/power source. I see no reason why he wouldn't share that with SHIELD, just on a larger scale. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if we find that Tony Stark had a major role in designing the helicarriers.

  • July 24, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Stark hadn't figured out the power source yet

    by Mattman

    He left the pieces for his son. Why would he give Shield a power source that he had no way to control?

  • July 24, 2011, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Oh, you were talking about Tony

    by Mattman

    In that case, yes, Tony will probably share it with SHIELD. Just not the government.

  • July 24, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST

    great looking hulk - Kirby-esque...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i always preferred ang lee's hulk design over the norton reboot design - but this one looks like the best so far - nailed it finally

  • July 24, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    So glad Cap is in the middle

    by Nuts

    He's the heart and soul of the Avengers

  • July 24, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon? Oh yeah...he's directed lots of great films....yeah....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...and by lots of great films I mean none.

  • July 24, 2011, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Edward Norton, you blew it. You should've been in this flick.

    by Julius Dithers

    Sure, we can blame Feige for your dismissal, but it shouldn't have come to that point. You and Downey going toe-to-toe would have been awesome. Ruffalo? Meh.

  • July 24, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST


    by solitaire

    I knew he had done the voice in the 90's cartoon, but was unaware he did the vocals for The Incredible Hulk (I knew he had a cameo as a college security guard that loved pizza) thanks for the info ;-)

  • July 25, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST

    I'm getting a good vibe from the teaser


    Are you guys that keep whining about Weddon going to come back here and eat crow when it's released?

  • July 25, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Here's a somewhat larger version of the banner.

    by JediRob

  • July 25, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST


    by ryan

    i mean it has to be Thanos and the skrulls right.

  • July 25, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    A little fight in you... I like that.

    by CT1

    Then you're gonna love ME! *KA-THUMP!!!!!!!!*

  • I'm just a boy from Brooklyn *whiny*

  • I think it's much more likely that the Helicarrier(s) are powered by scaled-up Repulsor tech that Tony has contracted out to SHIELD.

  • Just sayin, thought it was kinda funny.

  • July 25, 2011, 2 a.m. CST

    I am awestruck by the Complete assembly.

    by Alincia

    Wow <3

  • July 25, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    strong argument for painted 1-sheets, just sayin..

    by scenic

  • July 25, 2011, 3:10 a.m. CST

    I really hope they...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    play up the melancholy aspect of the Hulk, as Bruce Bixby did. Fingers crossed.

  • July 25, 2011, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Where's The Station Agent?

    by Roger Moon

    That grumpy asshole better have disabled that tractor beam or this is gonna be a real short trip

  • July 25, 2011, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Beautiful poster(s)! Hope Marvel stops using photoheads posters now.

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    I mean they probably know a great artist or two...

  • July 25, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST

    kinda sad....

    by Tom Fremgen

    that nothing from the Hulk movies really carries over. But this looks bad @$$, sure hope it lives up to it's name :)

  • July 25, 2011, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Joss Whedon is going to fuck this up.

    by Volllllume3

    You just know it.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Too many meatballs in the spaghetti

    by James Stevenson

    At this point, I truly believe they should've gone front to back, as with the X-Men movies...... show all the characters at once, give each of them a bit of backstory, then go full throttle. Make THAT the first Avengers movie. Instead, we have these cameo drop-ins, and Samuel L. Jackson and that SHIELD guy popping in, or over the end credits, and fuckit if that shit doesn't become trying/annoying at some point. I think Marvel may have screwed the pooch, ratcheting up the anticipation factor where it's undeserved, and then (for legal reasons, natch) NO Scarlet Witch, The Vision, Antman/Giantman, The Black Panther. FUCK!..... if you're an Avengers purist at ALL, I don't have to tell you how much that bites. Plus I don't think Joss Whedon can do this justice. He's a TV director, and there he should've remained. He's capable within those confines, but this is clearly beyond his grasp.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:46 a.m. CST


    by bellscorners

    He can do this. The guy has the talent, but anyway we'll know in a year from now how it all turns out. I think he was a good choice. Now for the whining/complaining/gut-twisting/puppy-popping... Scarlett Johansson or whatever her name is shouldn't be in this movie. That is a seriously limited actress. Wasn't she in IM2? I think possibly she might have been... leaves no impression at all, isn't even great eye candy. Better off without.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:55 a.m. CST


    by James Stevenson

    No...... he can't. He's like a cattle herder with one arm and a bum leg. He couldn't even capture lightning in a bottle (Firefly) and properly translate it to the big screen (Serenity). He's the poor man's JJ Abrams, and that, in and of itself, is pitiful.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    The x-men thing has been done. Here we get a movie where all the individual back story crap is done already, it just requires some assembly... Don't mind all the "extras", it's the main 4 that would need origins. And like I said, that's done. I think it's an amazing and perfect way to go. Can't wait!

  • July 25, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Favreau wasn't right for Iron Man, LeTerrier WHO?!, Kenneth Branagh was a unexpected choice.... Just wait and see. You'll might have to change your nickname next year ;)

  • July 25, 2011, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Is there a script review?

    by musically_endowed

    The movie should start in the middle of the battle of Hulk vs. everyone else. Banner talks the Hulk into laying off, they get approval to start the Avengers, opening credits, jump 2 years later and start the plot.

  • July 25, 2011, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Dump the Widow

    by BrooklynBred

    She served no purpose in the movie.

  • July 25, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST


    by ryan

    and skrulls

  • July 25, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST


    by ryan


  • July 25, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST


    by ryan

    and thanos

  • July 25, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST


    by ryan


  • July 25, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST

    and MAR VEIL

    by ryan

    of what the hell other story could they possibly use.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    May 2012?

    by Paul

    If this is pre-production art, how are they going to get this done for May 2012? 9 months for an effects heavy extravaganza?

  • July 25, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Joss Whedon wrote the script, according to IMDB

    by sambafreak13

    For what it's worth, I think that's a good thing.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    The artist who made these is incredibly talented

    by aphextwin

    I'm working in the Industry myself, and from my POV these paintings ROCK; great color combinations; overall composition; lighting; poses; and the faces are clearly looking their part including subtle facial expressions. The level of detail is quite excellent too. For comic book movie promotional art, you can't have anything better than this.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Did they say they did the pre-production art on the spot on a wall at the comic con? No? That's right! The filming started on April 25... THIS year.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    No Vision?

    by KoolerThanJesus

    I was more of an X-men and DC guy, but aren't they missing an few important Avenger? Wasn't the Vision always an Avenger? He's sort of like the Martian Manhunter of Marvel.

  • This would be a good way of reintoducing the character to a new generation. Especially due to the fact that he was killed off in the Marvel U decades ago. And yes, Thanos as the main baddie is perfect!

  • A grayer more subdued green as opposed to the bright day-glo green we've seen thus far. One of the reasons I feel that the prior two Hulks just didn't work on screen.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST


    by Stabby

    Ruffalo does look like Ray Wise in the pic.

  • July 25, 2011, 9:49 a.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    Where is genderblender, bender, whatever the fuck she/he/it calls itself? Seems like when it's brilliant "insight" and "predictions" of failure are WRONG, stupid troll disappears. Good, less heard from that moron the better.

  • July 25, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    This movie looks corny as hell.

    by DonkeyBalls

  • July 25, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Yo rogue, what's up?

    by Stabby

    genderbender ignored my request for a date.

  • I sure wasnt, but i have to admit the guy came through. But since im not an idiot, i didnt assume Cap would suck without any evidence ahead of time. Even if youre not a fan of Whedons, why not at least hope for the best? Guaranteeing failure for a movie thats a year away just makes you look like a pathetic asshole. Not that i dont have misgivings, but im still rooting for the guy. Dont we all want it to be great?

  • seriously, lets make sure we actually get this version of the hulk.

  • July 25, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Hulk doesn't get to have background images from his last movie

    by rev_skarekroe

    Not even a shot of General Ross or the Abomination. I wonder if they intend to scrap or retcon that continuity since they've recast Banner?

  • July 25, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I'M not digging the reimagined S.H.E.I.L.D. Heli- Carrier

    by In Action Man Reborn Requiem

    I miss the old school big fat one with a thousand helicopters holding it up. Maybe the PTB thought it had already been done in "Sky Captain and TWOT"

  • When youre adapting a comic book, every aspect of the IP needs to be tweaked to some extent. This is a good and necessary thing, and should be embraced by anyone not looking for a straight up regurgitation of the funny books. And if you dont want to be positively identified as a tool, stop complaining about caps "wings". Seriously.

  • July 25, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Looks like something you'd see on the side of a van

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

  • And I for one hope ruffalo brings some kind of idiosyncrasy to the banner role. Ed Norton played him completely straight, and that movie couldve used a more interesting banner. I liked the movie, and norton was convincing as a scientist, but Banner, like all super-geniuses, should have some quirks. Nothing over the top, but as arguably the most intelligent man on the planet (yeah yeah, i know, reed richards blah blah ), and considering the shit hes gone through, he should be at least a little bit eccentric. No?

  • I mean, the guys like 5 feet tall! Now that i think about it, theres a lot that i dont like about IH, and yet i still enjoy watching it. Huh. Maybe its the first 2 appearances of the Hulk. The scene at the bottling plant and the battle on the campus i think are pretty great. And i like the basic structure of the story, as well as the cinematography. And even though i dont really buy her as a scientist, I have a soft spot for Liv Tyler. Just a lovely, lovely actress.

  • July 25, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    That is some beautiful artwork very Alex Ross!

    by BuffyFaithtribyeah


  • July 25, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Thats the correct way Hulk is supposed to look like.

    by BuffyFaithtribyeah

    Like a caveman with a big brow not some faggy abacrombie fitch model on steroids.

  • July 25, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Heya Stabby!

    by rogueleader66

    GB didn't give you a date? :( Thats just wrong. How you doing these days?

  • July 25, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Incredible Hulk is flawed, but still has stuff better than IM

    by SK229

    IM is better overall, but IH I think is better directed in certain spots and has specific scenes that are better than anything in Iron Man. It just kind of becomes merely good as a whole. The more I've seen IM, the more I think some of the action, while well covered and not made up of Avid fart edits, is kind of blah, while IH has that opening sequence that kills any of the action in IM. Also, a lot of the scenes that were cut and are on the Hulk blu-ray would have made it a deeper, better film. I still don't understand the shit Incredible Hulk gets... it really is a very good super hero movie and you can tell that Norton cared deeply about the character. The director, it seemed, was just too much of a pushover for Marvel, and if he wasn't, it could have been the best Marvel film yet.

  • July 25, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Three thoughts

    by deelzbub

    1. Saw Cap for the second time last night. At the drive-in this time. Still great upon repeated viewings. 2. Amy Winehouse was a great singer, who along with her band, revitalized an entire genre of music and made it relevant again. She should have sung a Bond theme. However, she didn't, and therefore discussion of her death probably has no place on a movie/comics/TV site like AICN. 3. The Ulitmates' costumes still suck. 'Nuff said.

  • July 25, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Marvels movies are by and large pretty damn good

    by Snookeroo

    ...and that's coming from this DC guy. However, they all tend to get weak in the third act - Spider-Man, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Thor, even Captain America (which is fantastic, btw). It's like they're very good at the build-up, but never quite know how to wrap it up. Come to think of it, that's really a comic book foible in general, so maybe not so surprising.

  • July 25, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Not liking the Helicarrier design

    by deelzbub

    It should look like a flying bathtub, or even a aircraft carrier w/ six plus helicopter rotors. Not like a super-jet.

  • July 25, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by Stabby

    Things are great. Working on my movie. Trying to stay cool in this Northeast heat. Saw CA over the weekend and really dug it. Good old-fashioned 80s-ish action flick. Tell everyone at the shelter I said, Yo!

  • July 25, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Why does the profile of the guy in the hulk pic

    by ewokstew

    look like Obama?

  • July 25, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Black Widow and Hawkeye not needed?

    by Darth Macchio

    Of course not! Think of football! You don't need a quarterback, place kickers, or running backs or any of that useless crap! you just need a line of running backs..they can pass, run, tackle, everything needed to win a football game! And if you only had badasses like that, you'd be sure to win because it was your idea and you're a badass too so isn't it obvious?!?! duh! Ok..sorry..having a little fun with the hate.

  • July 25, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    So Whedon finally got Smulders.

    by AnnoyYou

    He's had a total hard-on for her since he tried to do Wonder Woman (she was his choice). At least she's not one of his usual wan thin-wristed waifs (Acker, Glau, Day, etc.).

  • July 25, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    I'm really disappointed

    by Christopher Bynum

    When I heard Avengers, I thought it would be The Great Lakes Avengers. Guess the world isn't ready for that level of AWESOME!!!

  • THIS...IS...A...MUST!!!! Is anyone here OLD ENOUGH to recall the EXCITEMENT...of seeing the "ROLL CALL" on both the JUSTICE LEAGUE and AVENGERS comic book covers??? Sometimes, the ROLL CALL was on page ONE, inside. For those not old enough to recall such excitement, it was simply a row of small pictures (usually in vertical order) of each individual in the group, with his/her name, below. GOOD HEAVENS you MUST bring back the ROLL CALL for some youthful excitement!!! (Even the grown-ups will feel the anticipation.) (photo) CAPTAIN AMERICA (photo) IRON MAN (photo) THOR (photo) HULK (photo) BLACK WIDOW (photo) HAWKEYE etc... BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!!

  • We geeks need to keep crackin' that whip!!! LET'S GET THIS DONE.

  • July 25, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Just Got Back From Seeing Cap

    by NeonFrisbee

    It was okay. I mostly liked it. I especially liked the propaganda montage and the period detail. I also thought Agent Smith was great as Red Skull, had the best wardrobe (for all their failings as human beings, fascists have the best fashion sense), and the sweetest ride (that car was BAD ASS), but aside from that, quite a bit of it was pretty dumb. 1. Why would the US Military blow all of this cash on creating a supersoldier only to relegate him to USO shows? 2. Hydra is a secret wing of the Third Reich? Red Skull too crazy even for Hitler? And what was up with that dumb ass salute? 3. The United Colors of Beneton Howlin' Commandoes. They simultaneously white-washed history AND unconvincingly "diversity-washed" it with that one. Not a dealbreaker by any stretch of the imagination, but it definitely pulled me right out of the movie. These things stood out as negatives. Another thing that was sorta lame was the Cap-In-Action montage. I felt like it wanted to be a Big Epic Movie, but couldn't, so it just packed in vague impressions of Big Epicness, which, ironically, highlights how it wasn't able to live up to it's ambitions. Overall, I'd give it a C+. Passably entertaining, some good moments, but ultimately just okay. XMen First Class is still the best superhero movie of the year.

  • July 25, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Yes - I'm old enough to remember--

    by simpledao4

    the roll call- What I do remember vividly was seeing CA on the cover of Avengers in 65 saying (for the first time) 'Avengers Assemble!' Yep- Baby Boomer here.

  • July 25, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST


    by JDanielP


  • July 25, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST

    I agree that the 3rd acts are invariably the weakest.

    by dahveed1972

    One problem is its very difficult dramatically to top the scenes where the character first reveals/exploits his powers or takes on an enemy for the first time. Its actually a problem in a lot of non-superhero movies too. Im reminded of Coppola's struggle to create a finale for apocalypse that topped the flight of the valkyries napalm scene. The Abomination fight in IH was easily the weakest action scene of that movie, in part because it wasnt nearly as interesting as the first 2. Same thing with Iron Man and , to a lesser extent, IM2. They all end with a big brawl against similar opponents (IM2 tries to solve the problem by multiplying them). Thor might be the exception, if only because the final battle was so brief.

  • CAN... NOT... WAIT!!!

  • The first batch of movies, though not perfect, have struck a pretty dam good balance between reverance for the source material and artistic and commercial license. Make it your own but give it mass appeal and some real world grounding where possible. Ignore the fanboy checklists. Completely. Including the costume design. Cant wait til spring.

  • July 25, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST


    by whatevillurks

    The Howling Commandos were ripped right from the comics. Remember, they were added by Marvel during the civil rights movement, making it a nice lesson on tolerance for kids. The fact that one is British and the other is French is a nice nod to the other Allies who tend to get ignored in mainstream U.S. WWII movies. Officer pulling stuff under Hitler's nose was common, look up Admiral Wilhelm Canaris and the Valkarie plot. In real life the SS was under the control of Himmler and could basically do what it wanted. The German army could have used direct control of Waffen SS Panzer units.

  • The weird thing being that I don't think any of the component parts -- Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hulk -- were all that great. The first Iron Man was the best of this lot, and even that only ranked a "B" with me. I dunno. I think they've done as good a job as can be reasonably expected for what is essentially a studio product. Marvel Studios is basically the new Republic Pictures and I think they've done a good job of it, but none of them are *great* films (compared to, say, Nolan's TDK which is a classic, and elevated the entire genre).

  • July 25, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee

    Were the Howling Commadoes a 60s creation? I thought they were also WW2 era comics? Maybe I'm thinking of Sgt. Rock of something. I always thought the original Howling Commadoes were all white guys. Now, of course, not that it's a *bad* thing to teach kids that diversity is a good thing, but it still felt forced and jarring in the film (as well as being historically inaccurate -- not that a comic book movie has to be historically accurate, but you know what I mean). But, I guess if there's justification for it from the comics, that gives it more validity. As far as rogue Nazis, I guess I can accept that, especially if there is historical basis for it.

  • July 25, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Dahveed liked Catwoman

    by deelzbub

    Updated and modernized for the screen with virtually no resemblance to the comics it was based on.

  • July 25, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, they added the Commandos in the sixties....

    by whatevillurks

    Considering how there still hasnt been a movie covering Japanese-Americans in the war and there are few that cover African Americans(I would like to forget Miracle at St. Anna, which was a disaster)I loved it.

  • July 25, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST


    by simpledao4

    Oh don't worry -'Assemble' is already in the taglines- And I'd be happy to share my old Marvel memories (even though I was more partial to DC)

  • July 25, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Hawkeye and BW not needed?? WTF! Are some of u serious?

    by The Founder

    I can't believe what I'm hearing from so called fans. When their is a team of heroes their are always favorites and less liked but they are all Avengers and characters aren't mangled like Fox's Xmen. Like some one mentioned Hawkeye and BW are good for Black ops and espionage. In a real world scenario the Avengers would need members who specialize is this area. Even on the JLA and despite the fact that he is a big member, Batman serves this purpose. I just don't see the hate on these characters all of a sudden.

  • Even in some of the scenes you seen some black faces and I'm like yeah right cause blacks wasn't even allowed to serve in the military and if they were they were given janitorial duties and cooks.

  • They were given that infinity formula.

  • July 25, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Blacks served with distinction in combat in both theatres!

    by whatevillurks

    Cap is not racist! This has been established in the comics.

  • Nolan did a good job with Bats but those films were not perfect. Choppy fight scenes and quick cuts just distracted me. I'll give TDK it's due and respect but enough is enough. The Avengers and Marvel are different and I wish people would stop trying to look at them as the same or compare them to Batman. Batman is not the gold standard of film making. Both of Nolan films were good but they weren't fun films to me and not good you can watch multiple times.

  • July 25, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST


    by BSB

    And where is The Atom? We need him more than we need a Hawkeye.

  • July 25, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    blacks did serve- Tuskagee Airmen,etc.

    by simpledao4

    But yes- granted, the military was segregated until 1948. The premise of 'Howling Commandos' was that Sgt. Fury was allowed to create an elite group regardless of 'official' restrictions.

  • July 25, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST


    by TheWacoKid

    Seems really out of place to me. It seems odd that they would make full length movies out of almost all the rest, with Black Widow taking a big role in Iron Man 2. However, nothing for Hawkeye (granted I haven't seen Captain American yet). He just sticks out for all the wrong reasons on this poster. For someone who has not read the comics, it's like "Hey I know all of these people...wait, who's the Robin Hood guy?" Not that I won't be lining up a year from now...

  • July 25, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    XMen 2

    by Keith

    The final reel in that movie is fucking terrible. A shame, because everything before it is so good.

  • I LOVE that movie, but I've heard valid criticisms. Even for me, I don't quite understand how Dent/Two-Face could survive that car crash given that he doesn't have any superpowers and isn't a trained ninja vigilante detective, just an ambitious D.A. I just chalk that up to the comic book-yness of a comic book movie. Anyways, I don't think you can blame people fo holding up TDK as the prime example of superhero movie. Maybe Avengers will take that to a new level? I dunno. I doubt it. I think it'll be really good, though, especially if they let Whedon do his thang. He's *really* good at team based stories. I think he'll be able to make a really cool Avengers movie. But you're right, it will be, and should be, a completely different animal than TDK; it should be poppier and brighter and a little more fun. I think he'll deliver.

  • July 25, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Third acts

    by Keith

    "Same thing with Iron Man and , to a lesser extent, IM2." Request permission for a Kaitain repost from a couple of years ago: --------- Agree completely about the lameness of the [final Iron Man vs Ironmonger] slugfest. And you know what? The real problem is that they HAVE a great fight scene and THEN THEY BLOW IT. Allow me to expand... In my opinion, the very best action scenes actually have a structure that is analogous to a courtroom drama. The two protagonists make a case, and throw their best shots at each other. The viewer can follow the engagement throughout, understanding WHY that was a good blow, HOW it might have been countered, and WHO seems to have the upper hand. In a courtroom drama, you would never, ever fob the viewer off with, say, a rapid montage sequence conveying the idea that "intellectual combat is taking place" and then show the (asserted) outcome. The viewer would never accept that: they have to be able to follow the details and see WHY lawyer A beat lawyer B. Most importantly, most legal dramas feature The Killer Blow: a final move that was not anticipated (by either the losing lawyer or the audience), and yet which leaves the viewer with a feeling of, “Aha! Of course!” You should be left with a feeling that the winner thought one step further than the opponent, or that there was something about them, their background, the work they put in, the way they see the world, that allowed them to find the weak spot in the opponent’s case, and defeat them. Sometimes in might come in a moment of inspiration, but it usually has a foreshadowing precedent in the story, perhaps one whose relevance was not obvious at the time. We ALMOST get this in Iron Man. They put in all the work, and then blow it. The Killer Blow in question is, of course, the “icing problem”. THAT should have been the moment where Stark wins and Stane loses. It would have worked perfectly, because the underlying theme would have been: Stark WORKED for this technology, while Stane STOLE it. The difference between the two men is that although Stane possesses the technology – in some ways the superior piece of kit – he didn’t put in the hard work to understand it properly. Stark’s understanding of the tech, and its limitations, came from his own brilliance, and from the hard work of developing and testing it. He has EARNED the right to defeat Stane at that moment, because his mastery is superior. And then the film blows it: Stane ices up, but then simply recovers, and it ends up with a conventional, Michael Bay slugfest with punches, streams of energy and explosions. The beauty and grace of what should have been Stark’s victory is thrown away.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Ginger girls

    by Keith

    "ginger girls are by far the hottest girls in the world." This claim is 100% true.

  • July 25, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Sorry, I'm Partial To Blondes And Inky Black Brunettes

    by NeonFrisbee

    I'm into high contrast. I think Black Canary and Zatanna should be a couple. Punch, scream, sdarwkcab cigam, lesbian sex, you know... Anyways, I see myself having way more of a hard-on for Maria Hill than Black Widow in this one...

  • July 25, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    X2... let's see if we can do lamer wire-work than X1

    by Autodidact


  • July 25, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    "Dahveed liked Catwoman"? Not nice.

    by dahveed1972

    Silly statement. I was thinking more along the lines of Nolan's Batman movies as far as finding a balance between the comics and doing something new. The important thing is that the movies are good. Whether or not the helecarrier looks just like the comic or cap has wings or a particular character says a particular line is of minimal importance. Kevin Feige (sp?) et al have struck a nice balance so far, but id prefer the writers/directors/actors to have a little more leeway in creating something new for the Avengers. And saying i liked Catwoman is pretty damn libelous. Now if Halle Berry had left part of the costume on for that scene in Monster's Ball, idve been down with that (and substitute haley atwell for bb thornton while were at it).

  • July 25, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Hulk is the only great character in this movie

    by Suskis

    Iron Man is ok too, but just because Downay Jr is an awesome actor (Iron Man is quite boring per se). But the rest? Thor is pathetic (norse mithology in comics?) and Cap America is a puppet just like Superman. I can't understand their popularity. And the guy with a BOW? LOL! And the bottom of the line is her: Scarlett the wax statue Johannson. Of course this movie is going to make billion dollars but, honestly... masturbation can be ok from time to time but I think that's all we have been getting in the last 10 years (Dark Knight aside).

  • July 25, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    dear mrdarcy

    by bellscorners

    i shit on thee. the poop has been building, many day now, it expand sphincter with much pain and then spray onto you everywhere. you become the poop, you love the poop. that said, i agree with your analysis (or whoever's analysis of iron man's final act), i just don't get the agony of going into it. so they blew it. they will blow it again the next time you wished they wouldn't. and then when least expect it, someone will pull out a fucking master and commander epic or something like that and all will be redeemed. either that or the poop come get you, like the poop does if you make it mad and it spray so hard, then it say "look what you do". mrdarcy sir. look what you do.

  • July 25, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee

    Of course, I was speaking to the segregation of forces, not that african-americans and asian-americans (especially of Japanese descent) didn't serve. That pulled me outta the flick. But, I mean, of course, it's comic book movie, I get it.

  • July 25, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Dear Bell-end

    by Keith

    That was a great story about your bowels. Maybe you should start a blog.

  • July 25, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Is the usual trilogy planned?

    by 3774

    Who's been signed up for how many pictures?

  • July 25, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    you know why you need Hawkeye?


    because he's Legolas in black tights. That's box office gold.

  • In the end, it hardly matters who plays Bruce lame-ass Banner, because who really gives a flying f*#$ at the moon about him and his boring lame-ass story? It was never his comic, NEVER! It was, is and always will be "THE Incredible MotherF*#$in' Hulk, Biches!" And yet, is it truly The Incredible Hulk that we all known, loved and have grown with over the years, if- (Shatner pause) He. Can't. Even. SPEAK!? I mean, throughout the decades, in his many permutations, Hulk was always a great character, known for his cutting sarcasm and matter-of-fact, in-your-face witticisms, but also a central figure- a HERO, if you will- who had many a stirring, tragic scene where he delivered brilliant, stunning lines. Can you say the same about Puny Banner? Nay. It was Hulk's journey all along, never Banner's. And yet, in both films, the Hulk was tragically reduced to the acts of a savage madman, capable of lobbing grunts and growls at his opponents, yet not even a half-assed "Hulk Smash!" You know what me think!? Me think Hollywood not want Hulk talk! Me think Hollywood not want hear- and like- what Hulk might have say!! Hmm! HMMMM!!

  • July 25, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    neonfrisbee- RAF bomber crews in WWII were integrated.

    by whatevillurks

  • July 25, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Anybody have a link to a bootleg trailer?

    by Onin Solstice

  • July 26, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Late to the party

    by Anthony Torchia

    I guess I missed the fact that Ed Norton so pissed of the Hulk producers that he was not invited back to do this film. As much as I loved him in Fight Club, his commentary on the DVD was whiny and obsequious (don't get to use that word very often). I am Tyler Durden's red leather jacket.

  • July 26, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Here's an HD version of the banner.

    by JediRob

    My dual display is set!

  • July 26, 2011, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Keep William Hurt as General Ross!

    by Jake Pantlin

    And keep Tim Roth as the Abomination. I don't think they appear in the first Avengers film (maybe Ross?), but both were great in the HULK, and they shouldn't be left out because Norton is a dick. William Hurt did a great job as Ross, and he had a great scene at the end with Robert Downey Jr, so he is tied into the Avengers universe.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Hawkeye/Black Widow "too weak" complaints

    by Blanket-Man

    I understand where y'all are coming from, but Captain America kinda fits into their category, also. Cap, strength-wise, is supposed to be slightly above the top Olympic athlete - not super-strong (he can't lift a car). Hand-to-hand, he really doesn't stand a chance vs. Iron Man, Thor or the Hulk, despite his fighting skills.

  • July 26, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST


    by JDanielP

    I would say that Captain America could easily lift one end of a car, though you won't see him lift one over his head (like a motorcycle with 3 girls sitting on it, as in the movie). BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! BRING BACK THE ROLL CALL!!! ...on a vertical AVENGERS poster.

  • For my son. Honest. :-)

  • July 26, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Founder--on blacks in the military

    by Hipshot

    They did indeed serve, in segregated units which often were blended into larger units during combat ("the fog of war" obscures color somewhat). My father served. Yes, many of them were non-combat, but plenty of combat soldiers as well. The "Howling Commandos" in the comic books were always integrated--no Asian character, but there was a Nisei unit they interacted with which definitely had badass Japanese. In Captain America, they were liberating a prison camp--clearly the pieces of many different units. Cap chose, from those survivors, men he considered to be of special valor. I kind of love that origin story. Curiously I doubt that any of the people protesting this are black or Asian. Any black or Asian talkbackers who objected to this, please speak up. Otherwise, I'm just going to assume it's typical "white guy" stuff.

  • July 26, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I think all the shit Hulk gets

    by Hipshot

    Is directly related to the fact that once the Hulk appears, he is only CGI, and CGI can't act for shit. In Iron Man, I doubt there is a single minute without cutting to RDJ's face--acting. As with every other Marvel character--a sense of the actor in there, acting. Now, post-Avatar, Cameron may well have cracked the code on how to make a CGI creature emotionally connect with the audience. We'll see--I'm all for it. But I really do think that's why Hulk takes so much shit. Hulk never looks like an actual creature--he is, and looks like, a special effect. I think they should mix in practical effects, Kong-like, to really anchor the character in the material world.

  • July 26, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    And there came a day...

    by Continentalop

    "...a day unlike any other, when Earth's mightiest heroes and heroines found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born—to fight the foes no single super hero could withstand! Heed the call, then—for now, the Avengers Assemble!" <p> THAT should be the narration for the fucking trailer!

  • July 26, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

  • July 26, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST


    by RedGobbbo

    You don't understand their popularity because you don't understand the characters. You think Superman and Captain America are "puppets"? Lol comprehension fail.

  • July 26, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Nick Fury is at it again -

    by Orionsangels

  • Do I have the sentiment about right?

  • July 26, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Artwork looks sweet.

    by empty_headed_animal

    Especially love the old school hulk. I am really crossing my fingers they can pull this off!

  • July 26, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Hate It When It Happens

    by rbottoms

    Yes, we black folks hate that the Howlers had a black guy and a Japanese guy in it.

  • July 27, 2011, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Why Maria Hill instead of the superior The Contessa?

    by Dennis_Moore

  • July 27, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    carl xvi gustaf

    by Paul

    You're a snarky douchebag. Move out of your mother's basement. I thought the post said the movie was in pre-production which is not a lot of time. Clearly I was mistaken. Please kill yourself.

  • July 27, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    The Hulk Looks Like David Johannsen...

    by PoppaRotzi

    ...on steroids!