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That Bella & Thor flick - SNOW WHITE & THE HUNTSMAN is gonna be LOTR-like?

Hey folks, Harry here...  So producer Joe Roth says that SNOW WHITE & THE HUNTSMAN is LORD OF THE RINGS like.   Then he showed a production art tease that is being called impressive.   Then we get a photo of Snow White with the White Tree of Gondor shield and looking all Joan of Arc-y.   I'm wildly curious about this flick...




So them's our titular characters...  but they also decided to share these two with the rest of us...


That's fascinating looking right?

Now this one seems like something from YOUR HIGHNESS...


Kind of hard to make any real take on this - they are all just against grey  backgrounds...  like a bunch of DWARVES recently...  hmmmmmm....   Do you think this film will even have dwarves?   I just love that we're going to see two crazy SNOW WHITE films and a HOBBIT film next year.   Right?

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  • July 23, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Is Sam Claflin James Franco's evil twin?

    by I_Snake_Plissken

  • July 23, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    In what world is Kristen Stewart more attractive than Charlize Theron?

    by Prior Walter

  • July 23, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST


    by Tom Vidovich

    Doesn't this one have the crazy cast of Brit character actors as the Seven Dwarves from Ray Winstone to Nick Frost or is that the Tarsem one? Too much fairy tale confusion!

  • July 23, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Utterly pointless

    by coosawatchie

    And I hear the overreaching dummys are planning a trilogy.

  • But Hemsworth has earned enough goodwill that I'm at least interested in the project.

  • July 23, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    This is the one with the awesome dwarf cast.

    by Chewtoy

    You know, between this, the Tarsem Snow White, and the Hobbit, we're going to be drowning in dwarfs the next few years. Well, up to our knees in them, anyway.

  • July 23, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    In what world...

    by ttomato

    a fantasy world.

  • July 23, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST


    by LocoOso

    Why does Chris Hemsworth's photo look like it's for the porn knock-off "Snow White & the Cuntsman"? Who called this "impressive"? Joe Roth? On the other hand, Kristin Stewart looks to be in all-out brooding mode (as if she has another), so K-Stew fans can look forward to yet another layered performance.

  • July 23, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    k. stewart

    by gaygoonie

    of COURSE her snow white will be super butch. Yawn. NEXT!

  • July 23, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST

    kristen stewart's vag

    by mick vance

    is probably filled with lice and ticks...

  • July 23, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Chris Hemsworth

    by LocoOso

    And let it be known I have nothing against Hemsworth. He did a good job in Thor, but he was the right actor for that role. This just doesn't feel right for him. He's going to fail and it's not his fault, other than him signing the contract. Recall that they first wanted Viggo Mortensen or Hugh Jackman for this movie... that's a very different Huntsman. Then Chris Hemsworth was like their 10th selection, which has to feel great. I'm sure they're reworked the script to fit for a hunky 20-something instead of a weathered 40-something Huntsman, but I have my doubts as to how this works.

  • July 23, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Thought they'd aim more for Your Highness

    by Bass Ackwards

    Snow White constantly being high would be an easy way to explain Kristen Stewart's limited acting range, which extends from sleepy to dopey.


  • July 23, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by dvdmike

    Or nothing thanks, unless Kristen learns how to smile in it that may be worth seeing it for lol

  • July 23, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by golden tribw


  • July 23, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Haha, look at Stewarts tinny

    by Stormwatcher

    No way she can support that much armour weight. Man 2 crappy Snow White movies...wth? Next year is going to be awesome for reading movie reviews of bad movies.

  • July 23, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST


    by Redmantle

    This is kind of funny. If I, a not super hot looking guy, an above average looking dude, but still have fucked hotter girls than Kristen Stewart and she is supposed to be the hottest girl in the fucking kingdom what kind of fug fantasy kingdom are we going to here! Same kind of shit where an immortal vampire and super powered werewolf are fighting over one piece of sub-par tail. I'VE hit shit hotter than this, and I'm not all that. HAHAHAHAH.

  • July 23, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Can't believe they ripped off Tolkien's Tree of Gondor design

    by Cureguy

    It is so blatant!

  • July 23, 2011, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart

    by DrPhilHartman

    Isn't it a little early to write her off? She may eventually break the stereotype. Redmantle, above average guy who has nailed hot chicks. Got it. Remind us again soon.

  • July 23, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Wait, Kristen Stewart is a female?

    by matthooper8

  • July 23, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Sam Claflin is

    by proevad

    John Taylor from Duran Duran Playin a bass guitar in a suit of armor is a right bitch.

  • July 23, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    What is with all this "Snow White" shit all of a sudden? (nt)

    by Triple_J_72

  • July 23, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I know this has been said

    by Phategod2

    But in what universe, galaxy or dimension is Kristen Stewert fairer then Charlize Theron?

  • July 23, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart IS..

    by Mysterious_Volvo


  • July 23, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST

    i remember

    by mick vance

    this softcore porn i rented from a video store once that took place in a fairytale land. the snow white of that world sang a song about fucking all the dwarves every night. i wonder what ever happened to that actress. i'd rather see a movie with her than this shit.

  • July 23, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST

    This movie will be epic

    by LocoOso

    My favorite line from this movie is when the Huntsman says to Snow White: "Come, m'ady, let me show you how to handle my axe." Comedy gold. Wait... this isn't a comedy?

  • July 23, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by CloneWars

    Shiiiite! Whoever went with that Kristen lady should say goodbye to a career...

  • July 23, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah, now I'm rooting for the one with Lily Collins...

    by Anna Valerious

    Probably because I'm blonde and very annoyed when blonde women are the baddies in films. >:( BTW, I liked "Your Highness". And Toby Jones is in both films, but I don't think he's getting naked in this one... Well, let's hope not, anyway...

  • July 23, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Let's play a game of "Would you rather..." with Kristen Stewart

    by Badger23

    Would you rather have sex with Kristen Stewart or would you rather have sex with a beehive?

  • July 23, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Who keeps telling us Stewart is desirable?

    by matthooper8

    It's like women's fashion. Gay men trying to tell straight men what is attractive. So who in the world is trying to pawn her off as good looking?

  • July 23, 2011, 9:33 p.m. CST

    If the beehive is full of females, then the beehive.

    by matthooper8

    Hey at least it's a new experience. I've been with plenty of ugly girls.

  • July 23, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Speaking of ugly girls whith beehives - RIP Amy Winehouse

    by Tristan

  • Am I missing something?

  • July 23, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    remember when fairytales

    by mick vance

    used to be stories of morality and such. nowadays they try to turn everything into what it's not. just looking at the pics it looks like the prince is gonna be a douche who wants to marry snow white for her kingdom or something, and the huntsman will come swoop in to save her at the end, or (record scratch) she'll save him. there should not have been another snow white movie after disney's.

  • July 23, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Does anyone remember the Simpsons episode

    by matthooper8

    where a room full of monkey's at typewriters were writing a novel. "It was the best of times it was the Blirst of times". Guess who wrote this one.

  • July 23, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Do you think this film will even have dwarves?

    by berserkrl

    Yes I do. And I think they will all be named after Roman emperors. Because that's kind of been officially announced ....

  • My God people!!!!!! You don't appreciate what you've had all these years, until you see stuff like this that makes you realize that a lot of the fantasy films pre-LOTR are pretty damn good. Dragonslayer Excalibur Conan the Barbarian Legend Willow And of course, the classic Disney stuff like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves and Fantasia.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    I guess I'm alone

    by Mr Lucas

    in finding Kristen Stewart attractive then. Each to their own I suppose.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Here's a little secret.

    by 3774

    1.) The worth of an actress is NOT directly related to how much you (de)value her as a sex object. 2.) Not ALL movies are ment to exclusively cator to the young, douchbag, knuckle-dragging, 'cunt-fag-bitch-queer', mouth-breather demographic. Most. But not all. 3.) This story is ripe for an update, as much as in might infuriate said douchbags who can't stand the idea of women being portrayed in any way as having strength, much less worth. i can't wait to see this. Half this thread can sincerely go fuck themselves.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Snow White, the chinniest of them all.

    by D.Vader

  • July 23, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart makes my penis yawn

    by Lucasblows

  • July 23, 2011, 10:18 p.m. CST

    I'm still not convinced she's a girl

    by matthooper8

    Did you see him/her in panic room. Tell me you KNEW what sex she/he was in that one.

  • WILL IT HAVE DwARVES?! Only Ian McShane, Eddie Izzard, Bob Hoskins, Toby Jones, Eddie Marsan, Stephen Graham and NICK FROST.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Oh and the Tarsem one will have actual little people.

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Ok, enough small talk.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Girls In Armour

    by Flummage

    Mia Wasikowska looked pretty dashing suited up in the otherwise tin-eared Alice in Blunderland, also. I would sign up to that newsletter. Put me in the camp rooting for this movie to be a masterpiece, as it has one of the most confident and defiantly charismatic actresses in Hollywood, Theron (perfect casting, methinks), with one of the most hated and seemingly awkward, in Stewart. That mix appeals to me for some reason. Gawd knows next year will be a superhero sausage-fest anyway; always room for some for ass-impaling femmes in my cinematic scrapbook.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I wonder who shit their pants first when they saw...

    by matthooper8

    ...the box office returns for that abortion that was an update of Red Riding Hood.

  • Question mark.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Remember that recent "edgy" take on Little Red Riding Hood

    by Badger23

    We all know how that turned out.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:29 p.m. CST


    by 3774

    No. The Twilight series is beyond horrible, particularly the twisted way it sells an abusive relationship as 'magical'. It doesn't excuse the 'herp derp i wouldn't fuck her so she sucks herp derp' in this thread. You dodged my assertion with a question. Are you saying that that actresses have no value beyond sex appeal?

  • July 23, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    She's unattractive and a horrible actress.

    by matthooper8

    No one honestly thinks looks have anything to do with talent.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most beautiful of them all?

    by highfunctioningsociopath

    You are, bitch. What, were you seriously worried about that vampire fucker or something? Get outta here!

  • July 23, 2011, 10:42 p.m. CST


    by 3774

    'She's a horrible actress' is an opinion that anybody could get behind. The things said go way beyond that, in a raw way that reveal pure contempt for women in general rather than disdain for a bad actress. It's just way over the wall. Sexual humor is great. i can give it as well as take it. But there's teasing for fun, and then there's just venomous contempt. i don't expect you to understand how it can make someone on my side of the fence feel. And i know i will get eaten alive for even posting. But sometimes the crap guys say here is just so extreme i can't help but say *something*.

  • July 23, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Bechdel Test

    by Flummage

    The apocalypse is already here, and unfortunately it ain't pink.

  • July 23, 2011, 11:01 p.m. CST

    There is nothing wrong...

    by 3774

    ...with the Bechdel Test.

  • July 23, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST

    pink_apocalypse is right, of course

    by berserkrl

    and the posters here with macho masks and junior-high mouths hate being called on it.

  • July 23, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Hah-haha!! Stewart looks fucking ridiculous.

    by MaxTheSilent

    Stunt casting like this can eat my ass.

  • July 23, 2011, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Disney did such a great job way back then.

    by DementedCaver

    Why bother redoing this will be like another Return to Oz....although that one was alright at times.

  • July 23, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    This looks ridiculous and I predict much stilted dialogue.

    by justmyluck

  • July 23, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

  • July 23, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Me-thinks pink_apocalypse is a reborn genderblender...

    by Prydie

    ...seeing as since the the comical piss-take stealing of her namesake, the obvious let's-fuck-with-genderblender talkbacker - genderbender, has been lampooning her wacky world view that champion of self-righteous feminist indignation has been pretty quiet. For the record sex appeal DOES have a place in this story. As many have already pointed out the whole point of the Snow White story is the jealousy of the Queen toward Snow White for being "the fairest one of all". I'm pretty sure even a flaming homosexual would tell you that Charlize Theron is hotter than Kirsten Stewart. But then again, I'm just a "douchbag, knuckle dragging, 'cunt-fag-bitch-queer', mouth-breather", so what would I know? Well, one thing for sure: that genderblend-- I mean, pink_apocalypse is a sad, fat girl.

  • July 24, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST


    by 3774

    Swing and a wide miss on *all* counts. Although i'm sure you desperately want to console yourself with believing that. And if Gender Blender believes even half the things they go on about, they need to seek therapy. i want to be considered a human being. Hating men and denying gender entirely are something i'm not interested in. Post Modernism is sad and out-dated now. You're probably just in need of your Flintstone's Chewable and a Juice, prydie. Is it nap time? Do you have your poopie pants on? It's going to be ok, big guy.

  • July 24, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST

    I miss Flinstone's chewables...

    by Prydie

    I could do with a juice, too. No need for the diaper change - I've had my big boy pants on for some time now. Perhaps I was wrong on the genderblender connection (that poor soul just showed up on the Spielberg Tintin page) but in the 'what plane of existence is Charlize Theron not fairer that Kristen Stewart' count I'm pretty sure that one is still sailing out of the park. Unless you like below-average looking, mopey emo girls that is. You know what? I might take that nap now. I'll be able to rest knowing I'm right.

  • July 24, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Off Topic

    by Jeff

    I'm usually one to give films (and actresses) a break, but honestly I'm seeing the sales pitch made for this story instead of the "coolness" of the armor. I'm seeing the $1000 dark jacket, the overpriced sunglasses, the insincere Botoxed smile, the flashy BMW, not to mention the five BMWs already trashed by his stuck-up kids, forcing him to buy 'em new, more expensive models so they can still seem cool and not be the total spoiled douchebags they actually are... for me it's all there. Nothing here looks at all original. The story and characters will be derivative and predictable so they can capture the minds of kids who don't know the difference. I can hear the Botoxed suit grunting, "Okay, okay... here it is! Check this out. It'll be... Snow White, but... with swords and dragons and that hot guy from Thor! Kind of... Lord of the Rings meets Twilight meets Disney! Wouldn't that be just... SO awesome!" My interest here is nil. I'm sure the film will look nice and the actors will say all the right things, but I predict the story will be incredibly boring. Too bad Hemsworth will be scarred for a long time after this.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:14 a.m. CST

    It doesn't matter.

    by 3774

    You're still evading my original statement. An actress's value does not rest on a foul-mouthed man-child's desire to stick his penis in her. Yes, even when there is an entire forum thread full of them high-fiving each other. My issue was with that attitude and behavior. My opinion of the movie? Stewart is pretty. Her acting is average-ish. And choosing her for this role is pure stunt-casting ment to capitalize on Twilight. That kinda sucks, but i desperately want this to work, because it's such a cool idea. Abandoning the 'helpless maiden' thing is a great way to go. Theron is a bright spot (a great actress and intense activist). A glaring sign that someone is wrong is when their rebuttal contains nothing more than a blunt insistence that they are right.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Isn't tarsem doing this too.

    by Josh

    I am stoked for this. This is going to be such a different kind of movie, or at least I am hoping. kristen stewart for once looks attractive well from the side at least, and at least she don't look like a butch fuckin horse. Should be interesting.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:58 a.m. CST

    I'm down with everyone except Kristen Stewart

    by peopleintrees

  • July 24, 2011, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Talk about the pot and the kettle...

    by Prydie

    Acting talent does not enter the equation of a Snow White movie when Charlize Theron is cast as the Queen. When the whole plot of the story is the jealousy of another girls hotness you had better cast to type. Your assertion that Kristen Stewart is an average actor only emboldens my point that she is miss-cast. Yeah, she was probably cast to catch the twi-hard fans but it doesn't make it anymore ridiculous for her to be playing a girl who is supposed to be prettier than a goddess. I realize this is all a fairly subjective topic but just calling stunt-casting is not enough when attractiveness is actually integral to the plot. I know its not fair that women are objectified in Hollywood but in this instance it is valid to the story. I love female actors who don't rely on looks. I'd happily watch a Frances McDormand film over an Amanda Seyfried vehicle. I just can't abide flaws in logic. And the logic of Snow White is that she is hotter than the Queen. For once thinking with my dick is valid.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart is probably a very nice girl but

    by Franck

    ...she has minimal acting talent, seems to play her Bella character in any other movie she's in - complete with self lip biting, lost gaze and depressed teenager attitude- which probably means that's all she got to play any other part.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:45 a.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    This idea is just silly. I wish people would come up with something new instead of trying to turn classic stories on their ears so as to make women feel better about themselves. Snow White ran away from the castle because the Queen was jealous of her beauty. She shacked up with the dwarves (in a strictly platonic fashion) as a way of hiding. She was then poisoned and died, and was later awakened by the kiss of her true love: a man. True love conquers all. In Snow White's case, inner beauty projects outward. In the case of the Queen, when she becomes the hag, she has lost any chance for redemption. Her true self emerges on the outside: an ugly, haggard, old crone. Neither Snow White, nor Alice, nor Guinevere, nor Maid Marian strapped on battle gear and fought dragons or hordes or whatever. Amazons and valkyries did. Start there, make up your own shit, and leave the classics the hell alone. They don't need to be revised for modern audiences.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Prydie, my dick argees with your dick's thinking.

    by jrb

    They should write a screenplay together.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Fuck this movie. I'm waiting for The Hobbit aka the real deal.

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Also, Charlize Theron is way more fairer than Kristen Stewart.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST

    This looks iffy and I'm in Tarsem's camp, but I'd

    by Dennis_Moore

    lick Stewart's legs all the livelong day until she cracked a smile. Is this inspired by the look of Burton's Alice's Adv. (which had a weak script and even weaker Alice but damned if the design was brilliant, especially lazily twirling Fry Cheshire Cat, and I am still intrigued by the notion of a fantasy adventure rendition of this story).

  • July 24, 2011, 3:54 a.m. CST


    by badmotherbox

    I'm seeing alot of swords and axes, but something tells me there will be no decapitations in this movie. Empty fucking promises.

  • July 24, 2011, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Did someone raid the LotR prop room?

    by Jeditemple

    The shield is a straight-freaking ripoff of the Gondorian tree shields! At least get some real talent to wield them!

  • July 24, 2011, 4:47 a.m. CST

    I missed something in this story...

    by awardgiver

    where Snow White is Eowyn. This looks fucking terrible.

  • July 24, 2011, 6 a.m. CST

    the ladies

    by afterhourss

    kristen looks uncomfortable and awkward as hell in that armor. her posture is terrible; look at those shoulders! an armor and sword do not a badass make. charlize on the other hand, my god, looks fucking hot. and badass to boot. chris looks great.

  • Kristen Stewart is a pretty girl, indeed, but she's nowhere near the stratospheric reaches of Theron's gorgeausness.

  • Every night after work Theron must had looked to her mirror and laugh her head off. While Stewart cried. Just because Stewart is more popular with the Tweetheads crowd doesn't means she's prettier. Give me a break!

  • July 24, 2011, 6:36 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Actually Tolkien took the Tree of Gondor design from medieval art. It's the other way arround, fella. It's LOTR that "ripped off" medieval art, not the other way arround. This movie is just using a common iconographic motif from the medieval era. and those images were always self-made puns about the knight himself.

  • However, the female badass protagonist better be deliberatly designed to one so, to be a original creation which was made as a badass from the start. Or to use an already established badass female character from legend or myth, like, say, Brunild, or some real life ones (Calamity Jane, Joan Of Arc, Boadicea, Anne Bonny). You know what i mean? Snow White is now a badass? I buy that for a dollar.

  • What a badass cast! Sadly, a good cast doe snot a good movie make. It helps, but it's not what really makes of breaks a movie. Specially if they are the secondary characters.

  • July 24, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Why is Kris-Wart wearing skinny jeans????

    by sam jacksons wig

  • July 24, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Why has Charlize theron got a coir rug on her head???

    by sam jacksons wig

  • July 24, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Why do these promo shots look fucking awful???

    by sam jacksons wig

  • July 24, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart as Snow White?

    by buggerbugger

    Oh, I thought she'd be playing Grumpy. In that case, they're going to have to cast the net pretty fucking wide to find someone more miserable-looking than Kristen Stewart.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    re: Bechdel Test

    by Flummage

    I didn't intimate there was anything 'wrong' with the test. If anything, quite the opposite. As savvy and as talkbackers are, anyone who doesn't know what the test is, might want to type it into youtube and see whut's whut. Louis CK's bit about how awesome/boring it is to be a regular, western white dude, comes to mind. Anyone who doubts that cinema in general would benefit from more woman filmmakers, with more women leading parts, making films such as those usually dominated by male-centric storytelling styles, and further beyond, is probably not really a fan of film, or lady-people.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST

    I wish Theron was playing Cersei in Game of Thrones

    by Wookie_Weed

    She is PERFECT to play Cersei. Oh well. Headey's doing ok.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by Wookie_Weed

    I'm all for getting rid of the "helpless maiden" stereotype, but why does it always have to be at the other extreme -- the kick-ass free-spirited tough (but subtly sensitive) Buffy-cutout? It's like feminism has one volume level. The Snow White tale isn't about men-oppressing-women. It's about women being bitches to other women out of pure spite and jealousy. Which is why Sigourney Weaver's turn as the Queen is brilliant (though the film is inconsistent and never reaches its potential): Maybe this is why so many Twihards want Snow White to kick-ass ala Eowyn in LOTR -- they can't look in the mirror and admit that much of their own angst is self-created and caused by their sisters.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:11 a.m. CST

    So, in this version of Snow White...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...the Evil Queen is the hottest of them all? Charlize Theron vs. Kristen Stewart? Not to bag on Kristen, I'm sure she's a great girl in real life, but Charlize Theron! Come ON! BTW, my memory may be failing me, but in which version of Snow White does she walk around in a suit of armor, swinging a broadsword? I sure as hell don't remember THAT story.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Stewart definitely miscast,

    by Chris

    Now if it was Scarlett Johansson or Gemma Arterton, then I could buy it. Going back to the Disney version, if you think about it, the Queen made Snow White independent and self reliant. She didn't have servants helping her and as result learned how to do things she wouldn't have learned as a princess.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    The "deeper" point of "Snow White"...

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    ...was that what made the Queen the villain was that she was a shallow, vain, jealous bitch. The point was that those were bad character traits, and that the heroine was free of those traits. Her physical beauty was implied to be a manifestation of her INNER beauty, something the Queen could never hope to attain. What you do is more important than how you look. Unfortunately, the Disney crew turned her into a weak, helpless sob sister, and that's the image that has stuck to the character ever since. This "Snow White" looks like they're gonna get EVERYTHING wrong, except for costume design and the casting of Theiron. That's not enough to make a good movie. Pink apocolypse - Keep at it, kid - You're on the right track. To the pathetic fanboys slamming Stewart because you claim that you wouldn't impale her (as if you'd ever get that chance), Stewart's mopey bullshit is NOT what gonna sink this flick. What's gonna land this piece of shit in the Loser pile is Hollywood pandering to it's desired audience, a poorly thought-out cash-grab that will further wreck the original point of the fable in favor of the currently-fashionable LOTR look and vibe. As for Redmantle - You're why roofies were invented, asshole. My daughter's far more gorgeous than the Kardashian-imitating skanks you've allegedly "conquered", and in a fair universe you two would meet up and you can't IMAGINE the ass-whipping she'd lay on you, you miserable, misogynistic child - AFTER she beat your ass at any and all film trivia you'd try and challenge her with.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I'll Be Rooting for Charlize's Witch In This One

    by frakthetoasters

    I find Kristen Stewart about as interesting as toaster crumbs. The only thing LOTR about these photos is that Snow White's shield looks a little like Gondor's white tree.

  • July 24, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by Orbots Commander

    You're right. In fact, even in movies like A Knight's Tale, with Heath Ledger, the film showed Ledger's character barely able to move in a suit of armor, and had to be helped up onto a horse. So a young girl with a slight build wouldn't even be able to stand in a suit of armor, never mind a heavy shield and broadsword. Burton's Alice, I could buy, because the setting was supposed to take place in a kind of nether-dream-land. Now, a more credible way to go was to have armor plating around areas of her body, but not a full suit of armor. And yeah, that's definitely a blatant Tree of Gondor rip-off. That's not 'inspired by'; it's a flat out rip-off. But still, it's hard to hate the cast for this movie; even as wrongly cast as Stewart is for Snow White, she was perfectly charming in movies like Adventureland. Stewart's very pretty in a more contemporary and modern way, but her look isn't right for a fantasy-type tale, unless she was playing a tomboy. Theron, though, is drop dead beautiful in an era portrayed. She's not pretty or good looking; she's hummina-hummina-hummina-forgot-what-I-was-gonna-say beautiful.

  • ...from Duran Duran, but someone further up beat me too it. I had to do a double-take (even though I knew it wouldn't possibly be him).

  • July 24, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    btw this movie is stupid

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    It's just a a lame lame lame idea. "Let's see, what else can we 'reinvent'?" Booooo

  • July 24, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST

    This is all Alice in Wonderland's fault

    by ebolamonkey

    Now every fairy tale gets a spectacular, nonsensical battle at the end because that's what people want, I guess. "For-shit Hollywood storytelling" is rebranded as "a re-imagining of a timeless classic."

  • July 24, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Snow, Glass, Apples...

    by alex138

    should have been adapted instead. Neil Gaiman's take had snow white as a parasitic, dead vampire child and the prince a shrivel dicked necrophiliac pedophile. Also the queen was the heroine but gets cooked alive.

  • July 24, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    This is obviously a fucking fantasy...

    by NemesisOfZod

    Because there isn't a chance in Hell that the stupid twat from Twilight is better in any way, shape, or form than Charlize Theron. Why do they insist on casting the talentless "actors" from Twilight in anything else?

  • July 24, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart is not ugly

    by dukeroberts

    I consider her kind of plain. She is modestly and mildly attractive. She's the girl who might catch your eye if all of the really hot girls are bitches or are with other guys. Of course, her sour puss might eventually negate the initial attraction. She seems so gloomy and unpleasant. And, in comparison to Charlize Theron, who is flat out gorgeous and whose smile brings rainbows and butterflies, she could not possibly be the fairest in the land. Now, maybe in this fantastical world where fair maidens loosely named "Snow White" wield swords and armor and other such accoutrement, "fair" means something else. Maybe "fair" means butch and manly. I'll buy that. I sure as hell won't see the movie, but I will buy that that is their defintion of "fair". Ridiculous.

  • July 24, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by 3774

    Feminism doesn't have a single volume level any more than sexuality does. When it's been suppressed for an extraordinarily long period of time in some specific form and given a chance to escape, a common psychological response is to push it to the extreme end of the spectrum. Time balances this out eventually. Do you see any of us burning our bras anymore? Someone was given the chance to re-think this property, and they followed through with a natural response. Complaining about the lack of realism in Stewart wearing armor is non-sense until details are revealed. i'm pretty sure that they're not going to be putting her character through the rigorous demands of a crusading knight, and combat will be limited if at all. It's the symbolism that's important. Any of you heard of Elizabeth: The Golden Age? No, i suppose most of you haven't bothered, since you probably wouldn't want to stick your penis in Blanchett either. Symbolism is a powerful force. Just look at how hysterical a bunch of men are getting over it. i have been a sword fighter (Asian and European styles) my entire adult life. i've worn authentic medieval armor a couple of times. At 5'8" and 130, i admit that it would be very, very difficult to use for an extended length of time. But i'm pretty confident i could still wear it better than your typical basement dweller, and kick the crap out of them in the process. Being a feminist means being able to make the same choices as men. It has nothing to do with 'acting' like them. Take your junior-high christian conservative logic somewhere else. This is a neat idea being ruined by grinding it through the lens of the Twilight fan base, which i've never understood. The books are one woman's choice between necrophilia and beastiality. Given the choice, i'd choose fur over a corpse.

  • July 24, 2011, noon CST

    why is there 8 dwarves and not 7

    by TitusPullo


  • July 24, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart was extremely fuckable in "Adventureland"

    by D.Vader

  • July 24, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Kristen can look hot

    by Extr3m1st

    And other times more plain but to say she is ugly or can't act is a major stretch. People here don't feel good about themselves unless they can cut a celebrity down to pieces. Of course she could give a shit less, and has more money at a young age then probably every dickhead on this site combined times 10.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Actors, particularly female actors, tend to be pretty insecure already...

    by Orbots Commander, yeah, even in anonymous talkback forum posts like this one, I generally avoid slagging actors, particularly young females. When I criticize a movie, I tend to lay it on the director/writer/studio or if the actor is a giant mega star guy who can handle criticism. You never know who visits these forums, after all, and having a young girl like Kristen Stewart read negative crap about her looks is not cool at all and serves no purpose. I'll even amend my own embarrassing comment about her 'look' being contemporary or modern. She's perfectly fine.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    ...requires more suspension of disbelief than the fantasy elements of this story.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    orbots and mullah

    by Extr3m1st

    IDD about her contemporary look to be fair. I just have a problem with some of the 4 chan type posters on this forum who attack every movie and every actor. Believe this, most of them have never fucked a girl in their lives let alone a girl as nice looking as Kristin really is. Mullah, who would have thought a twig figure like Angelina Jolie can so easily pull off action based movies. Yet she does pretty well, Salt and the Tomb Raider movies and Mr and Mrs Smith. I bet Kristin swinging a sword will be the least of this films issues.

  • July 24, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I mean think of this

    by Extr3m1st

    you just know that little girl Arya in Game of Thrones is going to be swinging a sword like she is an Olympic athlete come next season. And she will be 80lbs soaking wet even next year.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Stewart is attractive...

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    but as said, she isn't prettier than Theron - and that's the whole point of the story! Unless they are flipping it and Snow White is going to kill the Queen for being more attractive than her? Kristen Stewart is a good actress, if a little one dimensional. Forget Twilight and watch Adventureland, Into the Wild, or The Runaways. She does the whole distant, aloof, cool chick thing very well. I have no interest in this film, despite the cast, just because the script will surely be shit. The story will probably be just as bad for Tarsem's, but that is going to visually stunning.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    And the Twilight actors aren't "talentless"

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Anybody can give a good performance in the right role. I haven't seen any of the Twilight films, but I've seen plenty of Kristen Stewart and she gives good performances in other films. Pattinson was decent in 'Water for Elephants'. I can't speak for Lautner as I've never seen him act, but the other two are perfectly fine actors.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    extr3m1st, you have a fair point about tiny actresses taking on convincing action films, BUT the difference in personality and attitude is a big factor for me when I'm asked to buy into it. Jolie had a pretty big and energetic onscreen personality since her first films. She could always do crazed and aggressive, and from there it's just a question of channeling that energy into weapons. Stewart, in the films I've seen her in, seems like a frail slacker. I guess I could buy into her as a serial killer who sneaks up on people and garottes them, but not someone who attacks them head on with a sword and armor. I also agree that this is one of many landmines in the film - a pretty major one being that the Queen is far hotter than Snow White, which takes away the whole inciting incident of the story.

  • But, as Mullah alludes to, she displayed more aggression, drive and determination in her earlier roles.

  • July 24, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Does not work at all...

    by dixieflyer

    This story needs to establish the jealousy of the Wicked Queen. The queen is only jealous of Snow White's physical beauty not her spiritual or internal beauty. Wicked Queens do not give a flip if someone's "soul" is prettier than theirs lol. That said, I'm not sold. The best Snow White story I have recently read was in book 4 of the "Game of Thrones" series lol.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    OK, boss - they're all talentless. Aside from the fact that Pattinson and Stewart have given performances in non-Twilight films...

  • July 24, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Apologies - given good performances

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Have you seen them act in other movies - or even *any* movies? Neither would be in my dream casting, but they are capable of good work. Pattinson is in the next Cronenberg film - I have a feeling he'll get something out of the guy. You sound incredibly bitter.

  • July 24, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Yes, with the gorgeous Theron...

    by Orbots Commander the Queen, the original inciting incident for the Snow White story doesn't work. The only way to make it work is to change her motivation. Since they're alluding to a LOTR influence, I'm assuming Tarsem will slap on a political/power hungry motivation for the Queen's evil doings and so forth ('She's a hot chick version of Sauron or Voldemort!'). Snow White then becomes a freedom fighter of sorts, I guess. At that point, why not just change the title?

  • In the Tarsen movie, Lily Collins plays Snow White and Julia Roberts the Evil Queen. I hope this has helped.

  • July 24, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Looks like Emo Snow White

    by empty_headed_animal

  • July 24, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    For me its really less about how "hot" Stewart is

    by Bass Ackwards

    than that she's just not at all a compelling or charismatic presence. She always comes across as a half-awake stoner and has never displayed any depth of charm or intelligence in any of her roles. And I also don't mind that they're changing the Snow White mythos to make the character some kick ass fighter who can take care of herself, just again, Stewart is not someone I'm likely to buy in this kind of role. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, especially since the cast of dwarfs sounds so fucking fun, but on the same hand I suspect there's a reason leading men like Viggo Mortenson ran from this flick, and guys like Johnny Depp and Hugh Jackman similarly turned it down.

  • July 24, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    I remember an AICN interview with the director of WINTER'S BONE a while back when she described how she was getting intense pressure from the execs to cast a bland, empty-headed lead that was the "it-girl" of the moment. No names were mentioned but the implication was that it was Kristen Stewart. Now WINTER'S BONE was not a big budget film, so I could imagine how a director could eventually stonewall long enough that they could avoid imposed casting from execs. But on something with a budget this large and a property this visible, I'm doubtful that an up-and-coming director could bat aside the execs so easily when they show up touting the presumed "bankability" of somebody like Stewart. Tough situation - you can't really get clout until you make big money on a blockbuster, but to do so you need to accept inappropriate lead actors, which may very well PREVENT you from producing a successful blockbuster.

  • July 24, 2011, 8:31 p.m. CST

    mullah omar speaks the truth

    by D.Vader

    Its hard to know what really goes on behind the scenes when it comes to casting choices like this. Its hard to remember the director probably shouldn't take the blame for a tricky situation where the studio wants a bankable star and you just want to keep your job. Hell, even well-known and respected directors have trouble with this. Just look at Ridley Scott being forced, from what rumors say, to use Orlando Bloom in "Kingdom of Heaven".

  • July 24, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST




  • July 24, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Ugh. Who are they kidding with this? This looks terrible.

    by kevred

    Snow White with armor and sword? No. Just no. No, no, no. And the overall design & typography? Why not just advertise this with, "From the producers who ripped off Tim Burton"? And I don't even like Tim Burton that much. At least the other Snow White film has a Snow White that looks remotely, ballpark appropriate. But I don't see why either film exists at all. Another "screw Hollywood" moment, brought to you by Hollywood.

  • Which means thousands and thousands of people are going to see the Hobbit and, while they're watching the film, think, "oh, a bunch of dwarves again?" Damn the garbage that is these two films from in any way diluting the arrival of The Hobbit, a far more worthwhile project. (This piece of junk is almost - almost - justified in its existence by the presence of Ian McShane, but I'd rather he find a way into the Hobbit too, and this thing never see the light of day.)

  • July 24, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Like when Clive Owen was KING ARTHUR...

    by leroygrey there might be room for two Snow White movies after all... One for the girls, and one for the dudes...

  • July 25, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Another idiotic political statement.

    by caprica

    Snow White in armor, sigh. Why is it that every single film, either period or fantasy, has to have sword wielding female characters? Like every middle ages based film these days must show one--except whoops, never in the whole history, not one single time apart from Joan of Arc, did a woman ever fight. Of course, we can't show a woman of the period as they actually were, that would be insulting. What crap. And don't say this is fiction, you have to be able to buy into any fictional world, and Kristin Stewart with armor and a sword is a complete non-starter from the get go.

  • July 25, 2011, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I'm Going With The Tarsem Singh Version

    by NeonFrisbee

    The LAST fucking thing I need to see is another boring, bland LOTR/Narnia retread. The Tarsem version (of which we've only seen one adorable production still) looks way more colorful and psychedelic -- as befits a fairy tale -- and Lily Collins is WAY cuter than Bella Twihard.

  • July 25, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Saw this panel. It's already a mess.

    by amara

    Director admits he didn't want to do the film and was aiming for a war film and was pushed into this. Producer admits he wanted an unknown for Snow White. They all admit that Stewart was cast because they hope she'll bring in the Twilight fans. And the fact that they even did a panel when they haven't even started filming shows the air of desperation around the project. Word is Viggo, Fassbender, Hardy, Depp, Jackman, Joel Edgerton, all passed on this.

  • July 25, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    The Teela and Evil-Lynn dynamic

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    On a purely physical level, Evil-Lynn is hotter but Teela's the one who will make a better wife. That said, the only genre role I want to see Kristen Stewart in is Harley Quinn. I know Twilight is designed to make the Mormon lifestyle appealing to girls who grew up crushing on Koccoum, Edward Elric and Jack Sparrow but it really plays like the Joker and Harley story.

  • July 25, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Charlize gives me a boner.

    by SmokieGeezer

    Who needs Viagra?

  • July 25, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by TheThinker

    Snow White In Name Only!'s not like they're raping my childhood or anything like that. Why can't it be "inspired by", or even better yet, O-RIG-I-NAL? I guess it was just too comfy & inviting in her nice, safe bosom for the studio to resist. But don't call her a slut! Cuz she looks like she's ready to kick ass now!(I guess...sigh)

  • The real root and point of the tale of Snow White is that a vain, shallow superficial Queen whop only had for her was ehr physical beauty, as she's aging and her beauty is starting to fade, she is getting surplanted in the people's hearts by a young woman whose beauty is a reflection of her great kind soul. Snow White is the fiarest of them all not just ebcause she's a looker, but also becasue she's a great person. The Queen is not a good person, never was, she was only a beauty who basked on her physical beauty and nothing else. It worked while she was young, but it's fadding with age and she's now without anything else to go for her. So the Queen becames possessed by the evil green eye monster: jealousy. Monstrous mindless psychopatic murderous jealousy. That's the whole point of Snow White. At least the old myth was. So what's the point of the new Snow White story? That Charlize Theron fears competition in the figure of Kristen Steward? In what way? Certainly not in the beauty department. so what? Becasue Steward can wear an armour and swing a sword? Are they changing to focus on their personal beauty? If so, what's the point? Thre while dynamic is changed. The whole point of the story is changed. It's even usless to call it Snow Bloody White, is it? I'm rooting for the Tarsen movie. Oh yeah! Go Lily Collins.

  • She could had graced the Tarsen movie. It would be even more of a good thing going for it.

  • July 25, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    When you say LOTR-like, do you mean...

    by Damned if I can login

    ...that it'll bear only a meandering, passing resemblance to the original source material?

  • July 25, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    That was funny. And probably right toom as in, in a very unironic way, at least from the filmmakers' part.

  • Unless they are radically changing teh story of course. Maybe he's friends with the Prince now and helps in Snow White's rescue and killing of the Queen? Guess I'm ok with that. Oh what the fuck do I care? It's fucking Snow White!

  • July 25, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Good point about Stewart not actually being very cute

    by Jaster

    Now that's a pretty big departure. Aside from the fact that she's a pretty wooden actress, they need someone like Meg Fox in that role. Cuz...she's super fuckable.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Stop hiring sourpuss Kristen Stewart!

    by lunalu

    The concept sounds interesting but the thought of watching Kristen Stewart in anything makes me want to scream. She always looks annoyed. I think starring in those godawful Twilight movies made her lose whatever talent she had because she now thinks that brooding and looking miserable is acting.

  • July 26, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    The Cake Eaters was good with Kristen Stewart

    by XxSoulFlyxX

    She actually acted well in that one. Everything else she does is the same old sour acting.

  • July 26, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    "a critic's proof movie", i ment to say.

    by AsimovLives

  • July 26, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST


    by Roane Gaddy

    Fairy tales revised and made edgy for the "Twilight" set. I feel sorry for all the poor bastards that are gonna have to sit through this shitfest because their chicks wanna see the talentless bitch who plays Bella all dressed up in armor. As a long time Tolkien fan I am extremely pissed that the morons who made this shit have the gall to rip off one of the most iconic symbols from LOTR. BTW, that Claflin guy really does look like the dude from Duran Duran.

  • July 26, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    First a hammer...

    by sometimes_only

    Now an axe. What's next?

  • July 27, 2011, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Charlize's dress is a rip off of Mia Sara's in Legend.

    by Dennis_Moore

  • July 27, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Snow White fights for Gondor?

    by GlamDaToeHammer

    Am I the only nerd that thinks this is a ripoff?