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X-MEN: The Scoop You've Been Waiting For!

Published at:  Jan 22, 2000 5:11:31 AM CST

Hey there folks. Harry here. I've just returned from a top secret mission to the City of Fallen Angles.... Los Angeles, where I took it upon myself to... "GET THE JOB DONE" as Gregory Peck would say.



I had many MARVELs to perform. This trip, I was bound and determined to track down the David Koepp script for SPIDER-MAN (mission accomplished), I was determined to acquire images of the X-MEN in costume (mission accomplished) and lastly... to find out what Stan Lee was up to with that Stan Lee Media company of his (mission accomplished) All in all... Twas a good set of missions. I figured that you good folks at home would be most anxious about the X-MEN pics so I'm bringing them to ya first. Next I'll write up the David Koepp script review of SPIDER-MAN, then follow up with the movements of Stan "The Man" Lee. All worthy spy missions.





First up, I had to contact my mole: KingMob66. So I called him and spoke two simple words... "RED QUEEN" and he went into motion. He probably doesn't even remember doing this, but neverthless... He sent me the pics I've been after... then returned to his cubicle... a bit hungover, but no worse for wear.



And now... Here we go...







First here is Professor X with his ol Cerebro thingee (I believe) attached to his cranium.







Second, we have ol Cyke himself. Now what's interesting is this is actually a different costume than the one I had previously seen him wearing. And yes, I'm well aware that he kind looks a bit dorky standing there like that, but... ya know... I believe when we see OPTIC BLASTS coming out of that visor and the inevitably cool ass sound OPTIC BLASTS make... that I'll be pretty damn happy.







Third, here's Wolvie... Personally I wish I didn't get this picture because this is a STIFF promotional shot if I've ever seen one. One pic I saw about a month ago had him crouching and in a ANGRY mode. Wish I had that one here instead. But here you can see what I meant when I said they had begun to do the Wolverine Hair Thingee... you might need to take these pics and lighten em up a bit... In Adobe, they looked fine... but sometimes browsers darken this stuff.







Ahhhh... Mystique... My favorite character look in X-MEN that I've seen thus far. This close up unfortunately doesn't show off Rebecca's ample talents, but you do get to see her groovy make up. Dontcha just love er?







Ugh... I loathe this shot of THE TOAD. I hope and pray that this is a preliminary look for The Toad, one that was taken early on, and that is COMPLETELY different in the film. I've heard about fantastic motion on this character, and I have no doubt that Ray can do that stuff, especially when the computer adds to his already ridiculously cool skills... But... ugh. This pic sends shivers...







And then there is Sabertooth, and I have to say... I like this shot of the character. Word has it, that in a week or two, we'll be seeing a trailer... with a strong STRONG likelihood of SuperBowl trailer. Which will probably be quickly followed up by a host of hosts hosting X-MEN trailers, and hopefully and official QUICKTIME 4 trailer on the official site! So... here you folks go... So stop your whining that I don't get the goods... Shhhiiiiiiittttt, the wolf is on the case!



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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:24:31 AM CST

    I'm first

    by mherring

    I can't believe I'm first on one the coolest stories of the year (so far anyway). I really like the costumes. I was worried about them but my fears have subsided. I especially like Mystique. Can't wait for the trailer!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:25:28 AM CST

    AWWW YEAH!!!!

    by d12-beowulf

    HELL YEAH! That's more like it, Harry! Straight gettin' nice with the lowdown on X-Men!!! You and your network of spies have done good, my man.

    //d12-beowulf

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:45:29 AM CST

    X-Mania

    by ambrose chappell

    Great job on getting these pics, Harry! Whew, I've been waiting to see these for a long time (as has everyone else)! Hmmm, Mystique looks great - can't wait to see the rest of her body. Cyclops - wow, they REALLY strayed from the comic costume...this one's going to take some warming up to. I'm pretty indiferent towards Wolverine's costume - does anyone else think it's just kind of generic? Professor X - looks great...Patrick Stewart is a fanboy dream come true! Sabretooth - looks okay (kind of a bit too klingon-ish). Toad - Ugh...what were they thinking?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:47:34 AM CST

    this movie is going to be soooooo bad !

    by 031423577

    this movie is going to a dissaster. it will make movis like THE SHADOW and THE PHANTOM look good. it will even make you miss SPAWN.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:53:27 AM CST

    Wolvie Looks A Mite Girly and New Laugh-Inducing UPN Lineup

    by justin sane

    ...not to dump on all the hard work Harry's done, but it's time for ol' Justin to air some gripes. This dude they picked for Wolverine (never heard of him before this) looks a bit skinny to be Wolverine, no? And besides that, he looks a bit young to play the ol' Canucklehead. It was dark, but his hair appears to be okay.
    The ol' Prof looks pretty much like I thought he'd look...
    Mystique is by far the best looking one of them all... that picture creeps me out, and it's hard to creep ol' Justin out.
    Cyclops looks okay if you like Cyclops, which I don't, so the point is moot. I'd still like to see the optic blasts, though.
    Toad looks absolutely nothing like I had imagined, and neither does Ray Park. As Darth Maul he scared little children the world over, but as himself he seems a bit... I dunno... Joe Schmoe. Unfortunately he doesn't look like hunched-over tiny Joe Schmoe, which is how Toad should look.
    As for Sabretooth, it looks like they just took this wrestler guy and glued some hair on him. What's so scary about that?! In any case, he'll mop the floor with skinny little Wolverine is my guess. I don't care how old the man is, I'd be far more afraid if Gary Busey was Sabretooth... I mean, have you ever seen the guy snarl? The man is frightening... not just in appearance, but in the ol' cranium as well. I didn't know what to make of his appearance on Howard Stern where he ran around like a loon the entire time.
    Anyway, this post is sounding less and less coherent the more I type, as I am very sleepy. Just wanted to weigh in with my opinions no one cares about anyway... I'll still see the movie as a matinee (or free, depending on what I can worm).
    Oh, one last little bit of info- has anyone else heard about the upcoming shows they're putting on UPN? The parade of crap continues... "Monster Truxx 2000: The New Thrillennium!!!", a WWF-inspired crunchfest involving monster trucks and their drivers, "Hip-Hop Bounty Hunters" which still makes me laugh despite reading the article this morning, and a show about female spies undercover as volleyball players entitled "I Spike". Let's put UPN out of its misery before they destroy television!
    Anyway, time for sleep.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:53:30 AM CST

    not to spoil the party but...

    by lazarus long

    I used be a comic geek myself, and I'm eagerly looking forward to this film, which looks like its in capable hands all around. HOWEVER, is the general public going to see this as any different from Mystery Men? I know MM was advertised as a comedy, and was a moderately funny, less-than-stellar action film, but by taking a more serious tone, will this attract more moviegoers? I'm really not sure...there's really no case to be made for X-Men being known outside the comic world as anything of note. Unlike Mystery Men, this film doesn't even have Indie-Film Star Power. If the SFX and stunts look really cool, it may help, but I wouldn't be looking for a high box office on this one, which unfortunately may affect the future of comic adaptions of cool meterial that isn't as recognizable as Batman or Spiderman.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:59:43 AM CST

    "Prayer For the Leatherboys" or "Whip it! Whip it good!"

    by uncapie

    I don't buy it. They look like refugees from a "Frankie Goes To Hollywood" video. Patrick Stewart reminds me of a Borg. Rebecca Romjin-Stamos is a pretty girl, but can she act underneath all that make up? Wolverine has the right face, wrong body, like a Rob Liefeld drawing. The whole thing reminds me of the "He-Man Masters of the Universe" movie.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:15:50 AM CST

    GOD LOVES,MAN KILLS

    by ant

    Thanks a bunch for getting these pics Harry.The costumes seem a bit generic but this movie isn't really going to be about costumes and gadgets.Singer has said that the X-men is more about the characters and that they wont even appear in costume until the final minutes of the movie.I'll reserve my final judgement until i see these on film.The worst has to be Toad but im guessing this is before makeup.The best has to be Wolverine, he looks just like Logan.Wish Nightcrawler was in the damn movie though.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:02:12 AM CST

    They could do A LOT better

    by brokentusk

    Ummm. I am REALLY sorry to say this, but I think that they could have done a lot better job on the characters. Cyclops looks cool though (even if he is standing like a dork).
    Wolverine, The Toad, they just are not what I was hoping for...
    Oh Well, I guess I'll have to wait for the movie, or at least the trailer...

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:24:24 AM CST

    If only THE IRON GIANT looked good in leather

    by todd

    You slap a leather suit on THE IRON GIANT, he could play any of these character parts, or all of them for that matter. He does have the same powers as they do. Consider Cyclops with is optical blasters, just like THE GIANTS eye rays: Wolverine is a living weapon, just like THE GIANT: Mystique is a shape shifter, so is THE GIANT: Toad is an amphibious criminal, THE GIANT is an amphibious hero: Sabertooth, very animalistic warrior, THE IRON GIANT is a very auto animatronic warrior. So why pay five actors to pay the role that one could play. I will never understand Hollywood, or why a chicken breast never has nipple for that matter. In fact, chickens do not produce milk like mammals, so really they do not have breasts at all. They have pecs.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:41:14 AM CST

    X-MAN-CHILD

    by los gordos

    First off -- way to go Harry you SOB in giving us the kind of juicy ass scoop that all us geeks live for. Holy fuckin' Toledo dis is da motherlode. Second -- this movie is gonna be so frickin bad it's gonna make BATTLEFIELD EARTH look like Taxi Driver..... but you know what that's not necessarilly a bad thing. I've spent the last few days of my life trippin' on DON RICKLES: BUY THIS TAPE YOU HOCKEY PUCK, CHRIS ELLIOT: ACTION FAMILY and FDR a one man show, BUCK ROGERS with GILGerard and KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE.... So I welcome a 80 million dollar version of VanDamme and DeSOuza's STreet fighter. ONe more thing, I hung out tonight with one of my queer friends who was sporting a handle bar moustache and studded purple jacket.... I guess it was him who directed this film... long live queer sci-fi.... and the Village People in Space... Peace out Stewart, McEllan, Brian "proved once and for all I am a disco groovin' queen" Singer, and my bi/gay pall Wazzle. Lifes too wierd for "good" movies anyway. I will be first in line for X-Men. See ya all there. Hahaha.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:48:26 AM CST

    Damn Beautiful costumes men!!

    by xero

    I gotta say I tip my hat off to Singer and his crew so far regarding casting and costume. Don't get me wrong guys, I like the comic book costumes but these are damn cool. We need something new to keep us Xited. I love the very dark look of the costumes and can't wait to see X-woman, you know, Rogue, Jean and Storm. Where to start where start, ok Professor X, two word comes to mind PERFECT MATCH. Cyclops, Matrixy but comic Book inspired as well, I like very much. Wolverine, same as above but Fierce very pissed off looking, I really can't wait to see this guy in action. Mystique, evil very dark looking. Toad seems to be very plain looking but anythings better than the jester garb. If you ask me Toad needs to be seen on film before passing judgement, I'm sure his mutant skill is enough to keep us satisfied after all he was Darth Maul. And last we got Sabertooth, Animalistic look very awsome. The cool thing about these costumes is that they look more believeable than lets say, Superman The Movie costume. I have a feeling I will like this movie alot. Thers may take, Oh and by the way, I hope you guys liked my drawing of the Wolverine X-men The Movie custume at the Coming Attraction X-men site, later.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:31:25 AM CST

    What d'you expect?

    by jasper stillwell

    Come on guys, if they were to try and reproduce the comic the characters would all look just plain dumb. Yellow and blue? C'mon....
    No, I like the new costumes, I mean at least they're in costume and they look like a team rather than trying to naturalise the concept even further. While I'm still a little unsure of Marsden/Cyclops, I agree, let's wait and see him in the film before passing final judgement. He looks a little to young and pretty for my idea of the, if I remember, rather angular Scott Summers. And yes it's a dorky shot of Jackman, I agree also, but dammit he looks just like Logan. The hair's cool, bone structure the lot....I can't wait Shame no Rogue and Storm but, hey patience will be rewarded....with this and Raimi getting Spiderman (schedules willing)at lats Marvel have finally got a respectable crack at the film market. All we need now is a David Ficher 'Iron Man' and we're laughing....

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:38:59 AM CST

    calm down, fanboys - it`ll work out fine...

    by nightsir

    The costumes look o.k. - I`m not going through the roof on Wolverine, but the others are fine. Cyclops especially. Toad lacks his final makeup, plus his character`s so FX-heavy, judging him from this shot is premature and unjustified. Jackman looks kind of tiny in that costume, but that Dougray Scott-guy is even smaller - so let

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:07:28 AM CST

    Now worried

    by sacuya roger

    I agree with Uncapie. Rebecca Romijn-Stamos looks great and if she can act the part decently I'll be happy. I'm not really familiar with the comic, having only read a few issues from various incarnations. But after seeing these almost ridiculous costumes, and the prettyboys Marsden and Jackman, I'm worried. (Hey, what a terrible Wolverine! Where's the beef?) Granted, maybe they'll look better moving. And shit, maybe the script is fantastic and a few mediocre performances won't spoil the effort, like a certain other famous Brian Singer flick. Stick a chicken up your ass.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:41:16 AM CST

    Damn Man

    by the kid

    You are still the best.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:30:00 AM CST

    Give The Devil His Due

    by kingmob66

    Ummm...excuse me but Harry did jackshit to get these pics. *I* got them on my own accord and sent them. None of this bull about him calling me is true! My friend sent them to me and *I* scanned them and *I* sent them to Harry so all you guys could enjoy them. I notice that my letter explaining my initiative was conviently left off the posting. No, from the article I come off as Harry's bitch.

    To answer Jimmy Ryalto & Eternal, there are no pics of Rogue, Magneto or Jean because the Rogue and Jean pics are just the actors, not in costume, so I didn't bother scanning them. The Magneto pic is pretty much the same one we have already seen, so I did not bother sending it either.

    And what's this "Brought To You By Ain't-It-Cool-News" crap? Afraid someone will take them and take the credit for getting them? I know how *that* feels.

    Allow me to let you all in on something - in the press kit it lists Ain't It Cool News as a partner in promoting the movie. If you're such a valued partner, why didn't you get the pics before lowly old me? Or is it that you've sold out?


    Thanks for burning me, Harry. I will make sure to never send you anything again.


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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:38:32 AM CST

    So far so good.............but

    by robinp

    Don't those costumes look like they were left over from the Lost in Space movie ?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:48:48 AM CST

    Some costumes need work

    by wadeo

    Excellent job Harry,
    I've got to say i love the Cyclops outfit,pretty cool!
    Wolvie however needs work,first of all the actor just is'nt anywhere near muscular enough,i believe Wolvie's arms are probably 20".
    It would have been really cool to see him with the short sleeve look showing off those Super hairy muscular arms.
    This is one of my main complaints with comicbook movies,the actors never match the physiques,why?
    I don't know,this is where useing unknown actors would come in handy,like they did for the Green Mile,that guy was huge!would make an excellent Bishop.
    Mystique however looked pretty awesome,i just hope her acting is up to par,probably will be.
    Also Sabertooth looks pretty cool,again though with the arm thing.
    Patrick Stewart looks great as Prof.X,of course we knew he would,perfect casting,he should've been Mr.Freeze in Batman and Robin,oh well,can't win em all i guess.
    And toad,well it's hard to tell since he's not in full make-up,can't wait to see Storm,Rogue,and of course Magneto.
    Speaking of Magneto,Ian Mckellan?
    gotta say i have a lot of doubt here,again with the physique,Ian's just way too thin and probably too old,gotta admit though the face is dead on,so we'll see,i'm probably just full of B.S.,time will tell.
    Can't wait to see the Trailer!
    Thanx,
    Wadeo

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:50:55 AM CST

    I LIKE THE COSTUMES

    by asasson5

    Okay, so they look nothing like the comic. Big fricking deal fanboys. I think that with the obvious exception of Toad, the costumes look very sweet-ass, and deserve a second look. Mr. Bryan Singer is a smart guy and knows what hes doing. All you are doing is putting more pressure on him you dumb-ass little fanboys. Don't you have more of a life that you can do something else other than whining? Maybe you should go write a script huh? I'd like to see your interpretations of the X-Men confined to a 78 million dollar budget (which is not a lot in movie land) Did you happen to notice the official logo at the top? It kicks ass! My only real complaint besides Toad is why does Wolvie have a different costume than shown last week? The stunt double costume kicked serious ass! Hopefully he will wear both. ONE LAST THING: AT THE END OF THE FLICK MAGNETO WILL FORM A COSTUME OUT OF SCRAP METAL JUST LIKE IN AGE OF APOCOLYPSE! IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, IAN MACKELLEN HINTS IT ON HIS NEW PAGE OF NOTES ON WWW.MACKELLAN.COM!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:51:33 AM CST

    I don't know guys

    by giancarlo

    I'm trying to be positive because I am huge X-Men fan but this is one of those films that should've been animated from the beginning.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:59:24 AM CST

    Costumes

    by ellie sattler

    Wolvie looks like a dork. Like a sort of Neo-Elvis. Actually, most of the costumes are a little Matrix-y.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:08:26 AM CST

    These are the "New Village People." "YYYYYYY.M.C.A....."

    by uncapie

    Harry just got the photos mixed up. The new band's called "The Village Idiots."

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:08:58 AM CST

    Great Scoop, Harry!

    by mrbeaks

    Too bad the costumes continue to disappoint. Oh, well..... July's a long way off. I'll wait for that first test screening.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:13:32 AM CST

    The Costumes Suck!

    by norm3

    They don't look anything like the X-men I remember. I'm sick of the black is bad look! At least put a yellow X on their chest or belt! They look like a motorcycle gang!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:18:04 AM CST

    FIND SINGER.

    by samuraisix

    He's hiding out. He's Scared. Scared because he made a big mistake. He made the mistake of bringing one of the world's most sensational comics "down to earth." He read about five comics, took a quick look at them, and said, "hmm.. this is nice. Let's fuck it up completely."
    I am so sick and tired of looking for pics and clips... but i must continue. I...must...protest. They destroyed the most notable of comic characters and put them in New Age Threads that leave a fanboy gagging. This is OUR x men. And when a kid sees x men for the first time without reading a comic, he's gonna see some scrawny-assed Wolverine (with his hair still done WRONG) and recognize him as having a stupid-assed costume. not the stocky, world weary, berzerker -induced freak that we all have up on our walls and in our Wizards.
    I can't take it anymore. I stood by this since day one!!! FUCK ALL THAT!i am declaring war against it. I want this shit to fall to the ground with a resounding thud. I want them to see what it does to break a franchise. Singer toned down powers, so that we might "believe" them. FUCK THAT, TOO!!! I don't see how making a bunch of superheroes into lame ducks is believablilty.
    did anyone say, "Ummm.. yeah. I want Superman to... jump, but not that high.. we don't 'believe' someone can fly, do we?" AAAAARGH! This is painful. Is Toad hosting some kinda teen show in those threads? He looks like Wes from Limp Biskit.Sabretooth is also decidedly WEAK!!! I don't give a good rat's ass what these stills have to do with the final product. do you know what they are going to look like moving?
    Like Shit, only... MOVING!!! Someone with connections please tell singer to quit. I would rather not see a final movie after this shit comes out. This is the worst. I couldn't care about episode 2, so long as x men came out right. Now i have to wait and see how good lucas's Taco Bell Epic will come out. This is impossible, you know. As of now, there is no way to avert this disaster of a flick. This is horrible. The media is treating us like we're dumb kiddies who will pay to see anything. if no one sees it, then it will be a monument to the power of fanboys/girls who have had it to hell and back with the shit that they shovel to us. Of course, we are all going to see it. Movies suck.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:20:00 AM CST

    Just one thing we can do...

    by crisp

    I think it's too bad the movie can't be more like the cartoon.
    But the movie can still be pretty cool I guess, but maybe it's going to suck bigtime. There's just one thing we can do... wait and see.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:22:57 AM CST

    Though it's been said many times, many ways

    by dr phibes

    it bears repeating: This movie will eat shit and die at the box office. Looking at these picture and seeing these silly S&M outfits really for the first time my thoughts were this is like making a Superman movie without the big S on his chest or having Tarzan go through an entire film dressed always in a three-piece suit. At leat two -- probably closer to four, I can't be sure -- generations have grown with this version of the X-Men, and just like with Superman's S and red cape and Batman's pointy-eared cowl and Sherlock Holmes and his deerstalker cap and magnifing glass its their costumes that immediately catch the eye and remind you of what characters they are and from where you know them from. But this certainly is not what's going to happen with these X-Men. People who know the comic book characters are going to have to look twice and then be disgusted at what Hollywood has done to their childhood heroes, and those who are not familiar with them are going to be left scratching their heads and going "Huh? Wha? Is this another Star Trek movie?" I have now seen the second coming of "Wild, Wild West." And its shitty title is "X-Men: the Movie." God help us all.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:26:12 AM CST

    C'mon y'all...

    by ridge-runner

    ..it's a friggin' movie and the costumes don't look that bad. In fact, I kinda like them. What do y'all expect???? Comic book costumes simply do not translate at all onto the big screen, and it looks like Singer has done the best job he could in designing these. I was most interested in Jackman's "Wolvie" look, since Logan is by far my favorite character in the Marvel Universe. I don't know if anyone remembers or not, but Logan didn't really "bulk" up to his current proportions until the Jim Lee era. Prior to that, he was a little guy, not only short, but on the lean side as well. Personally, I think Jackman has Logan nailed in the photo (stiff pose notwithstanding), not only in look but in the attitude that oozes off the look on his face. I also really like the hair! Anyway, I think everyone needs to calm down and wait for the final cut before passing judgment. My .02 worth.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:53:01 AM CST

    Singer, you bastard.

    by darth siskel

    This is what happens when people have no respect for the material.
    We get superheroes in street clothes. Wolverine in a Michael Jackson Jordache outfit. Fucking bastards can have a blue skinned, red eyed bitch walking around, but they couldn't use costumes that even resembled the X-Men.
    Thanks Marvel, for pushing you're worst designs on this film.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:53:12 AM CST

    Uhhhh.......

    by sourmilk

    Mesa gettin' scaredy-cat! Seeing these photos makes me feel sorry for those who have to wear the costumes. I think they are thinking the same thing. Look at the way they're standing there, "Man, what the hell was I thinking? An X-men movie?! My career is going into the crapper." I have a bad feeling about this movie. P.S. How does Harry get into these studios anymore? You think they'd be on the lookout for him. It's not like he blends into the crowd or anything.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:58:02 AM CST

    Why is Mystique the only one who actually looks cool?

    by cassius the evil

    It's like I've always said... if you're gonna do a superhero flick... don't try to give the actors superhero costumes, for God's sake. It just looks silly. Just give 'em Mastrix-style trenchcoats or something. Why? Because trenchcoats look goddamn cool, especially in fight scenes. Someone support me on this... By the way, Mystique does look pretty damned cool.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:04:25 PM CST

    X-Cellent Costumes!

    by marzblackmann

    Harry,you have done an excellent job!YOu are still the best,pal!
    I,for one, think that the costumes are cool. I mean,c'mon,folks,they could be a whole lot worse!
    I am more anxious for this movie now too! I admire Mr.Singers' work and I will trust his instincts on this film. If it bombs, oh well...It's just a movie and we still have the comics,don't we..

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:04:29 PM CST

    Stan Lee? I heard you were dead! "I get that a lot."

    by brundledan

    No, really, I thought Stan Lee was DEAD. I swear I remember reading his obituary several years back. Am I right on this, or am I hallucinating again? You never can tell - those lying bastards that did the Marvel animated videos in the early '80s brought in Casey Kasem to cheerily announce that "This is Stan Lee!" to all us impressionable five year-old kiddies. So for years, I thought Stan Lee did the voice of Shaggy. It's this kind of thing that can really scar a kid for life.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:06:17 PM CST

    mad props to harry

    by germster

    With this report, i think Harry is offically a God of some sort. No one else would go out there and get this shit for us fans, but he did. personally im not to impressed with the costumes, but hopefully the trailer will reaffirm hopes. but anyway, fuckin great job harry!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:11:03 PM CST

    To those that think comic costumes don't translate well to the b

    by darth siskel

    YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!!!
    Superman is wearing Red, Blue, and Yellow!! And Superman is still the best comicbook translation of all time!!!
    They are supposed to be in colorful outfits! They are superheores!! We accept that they wear colorful outfits!! We accept that they have powers!! The same way we accept Darth Vader wears a wierd mask and goes around choking people. If the movie is as dynamic and graceful as Batman the Animated Series, or The Matrix, the heroes will look even better in yellow, blue, red, etc. !

    YOU ALL SUCK!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:14:28 PM CST

    Wolverine is "The Lord Of The Dance"!!!

    by batutta

    I'm not too thrilled, but these pictures don't seem to be taken very well. Hopefully, Newton Thomas Siegel's lighting will make the costumes kick ass.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:15:14 PM CST

    Good, good...except for Mystique

    by 0007

    Well, I for one am happy. Except for Mystique. Hers is worse than Toad's in my opinion. Why? Because the Mystique of the comics and animated series has a lighter, sleeker, and much more sensual hue of blue to it. That dark grape jam shade just seems to overdo it. Also, What is that cranial scarring she has on her forehead? That just takes away from her beauty. That was never a feature in comicdom, so why would it be added now, especially when it will be most important to be her sexiest best? Otherwise, that trailer better be here in the next week or so, because I am rearin' to give it an in-depth study or fifty!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:18:09 PM CST

    the costumes look cool

    by benthicex

    That's besides the point, though. Who gives a fuck about the costumes? I'm looking forward to kick-ass action sequences and a GOOD fucking story.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:18:50 PM CST

    What the hell?

    by aherlow

    Am I the only one who can't work out why magazines and websites keep going ON about a movie based on a comic book?...Maybe I'm kinda out of the loop here...

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  • Harry, do not just tell us about it; Put it over at script-o-rama for us to peruse to our delight! Why not? Sleepy Hollow and The Green Mile were there six months before their respective films, and they only enhanced my enjoyment of them later. For people that might not always see things eye to eye with you it would do no good to say "Blah, blah, blah; And I think this will be a friggin' great visually-based movie but with lots of compassion and heart we have all been looking for in a Spidey flick...and let me tell you all, I was quivering in my boots when I read about what happens at the end, Oh Boy! Don't you all wish YOU could be reading it too? Well too bad, because you have to wait another TWO years!! HAHAHAHA! Now die scum!" Please hook us up...

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:22:39 PM CST

    This pile of steaming feces makes "Batman & Robin" look good

    by dark knight lite

    You X-fans can try to use your mutant powers of denial, but the truth is in those photos!!! Those costumes are horrendous!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha This is better than a shot of Smilex!!! Thank God the first two Batman movies were great, but even Shumacher didn't sink to this level.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:27:04 PM CST

    Perspective

    by batutta

    Just going through the fanboy rants, I thought I'd offer some perspective. Superman and Batman were cultural icons, so the looks of their costumes had to be honored or regular audiences would have been confused. But most normal people have no idea who or what the X-Men are, so the fact that the costumes have been changed won't make a whit of difference to regular audiences. That being said, I do think the costumes are ugly. They look like rejects from Dune.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:27:48 PM CST

    huge disaster on the x-men costums

    by hode

    The costums look horrible! I was so excited to see the costums then I see those pieces of crap! Espically the wolverine and sabertooth costums. I just hope the movie dosen't fail like the outfits.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:45:12 PM CST

    SISKEL MADE AN EXCELLENT POINT

    by mistamind

    To bring up the point Darth Siskel made concerning superheroes and their costumes... it's all true! Before SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE went behind the cameras, executives at Warner Brothers didn't believe that Supes would look right on screen in his comic book threads. But since he had become a national icon, the fans would go nuts if his costume was changed. So they gave it a shot, and it worked, brilliantly, I might add.
    See, the reason that people don't believe that comic book heroes and villains wouldn't look right on the screen is because they don't give them a chance. I n SUPERMAN, it worked because Christopher Reeve made you believe that he was Superman. That's why the costume worked. You saw Superman on screen.
    That's the problem with this X-MEN movie. Bryan Singer and the execs at 20th century Fox don't have faith in the source material. What they don't understand is that if they got interesting actors to play the X-MEn they wouldn't have to rip their designs off of the Matrix! The only actor in this film who I believed was right for his role was Patrick Stewart. He has the acting chops to make us believe that he is Professor X. But unfortunately, he doesn't have to cavort around in ayellow and blue costume.
    It pisses me off that some "serious" director like Bryan Singer begs to direct this film, then strays from the source material so immensely that he should be rounded up by THE FANBOY POLICE and hanged! Fuck realism! We don't go to the movies to be fooled. Oh my god! You're telling me that the X-men aren't real! We come to the movies to be entertained. that's my two cents.
    mistamind

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:46:31 PM CST

    Bunch of whining crybabies...

    by vindrow

    I can't get over all the whiners that are on this board. I don't like the costumes, they don't have my favorite character, the pics look stupid, yada yada, yada.
    How many of you have aactually seen a teaser of the flick. Well, I have and let me tell you that the above pictures don't do the characters justice.
    There have been some changes to the costumes(although minor)so the final costumes look a little different than the pics above.
    The main reason that they strayed from the original costumes is they wanted a darker look for the film, so they went for these type of costumes instead of the brightly colored ones. I for one am glad they did, I would hate to see them prance around on the screen like a bunch of ballet dancers on acid.
    As for those of you that are crying about how Batman was so much better, I am amazed how you can make this comparison since The X-Men hasn't even come out yet, and all you have seen is a couple of promotional shots of the characters. I am glad that they didn't go for the bodysuit with *shudder* nipples. Never senn anything look so stupid in my life.
    The way that Jackman portrays Wolvie in the film is great. When he gets into his Wolvie persona he looks and acts like Wolvie, and Toad looks different in the teaser when the SFX are added. All in all this is the most anticipated movie of the year, and I for one can't wait to see it. For, all you nay-sayers, and X-Men haters when the movie comes out don't go see it. We won't miss you it will be less people talking in the theater.
    For those of you that I am refering to you may now flame away, since I now have on my asbestos underwear.

    Until Wolvie gets a haircut, make mine X-Men.


    Vindrow

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:50:50 PM CST

    Samuraisix calm the fu(!< down

    by celebcancer

    The X-stumes arw practical. If spandex is such great fightin' gear why aren't marines sporting Danskins. Also everything is bright in comics (esp. during the Claremont/Byrne/JR jr era) and guys runnin' around in yellow and blue spandex trying to save the world wouldn't look like heroes, just dumasses. My worry is the story--they will have the usual (suspect?-sorry) save the world thing and forget the characters> I can just see Magneto using the Statue of Liberty like Stay-puf in Ghostbusters. Oi!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 12:54:57 PM CST

    Costumes -- Danger Room?

    by poxyvonsinister

    I'm wondering if maybe the all-leather costumes are some kind of work-out suits for the Danger Room and not their actual field outfits. Then again, as someone said before, what looks good on the comic page doesn't always transfer well to the screen. Would have been cool to see Logan's brown outfit, though. And hell, I think Sabretooth looks cool, so shoot me.

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  • There's no fucking way that Superman the Movie was the best, no fucking way! The story was off, the costume is still gay, Lex was a fucking boreing villan, it's a goofy ass movie sorry If I insult anyone. Christ Reeve was cool but the whole movie just sucked. I don't know anyone how owns that movie. If you ask Blade was the best and let me tell you why. First of all the design of the characters was awsome and dark, dark is good. You can't go wrong with mixing Dracula and the Punisher, you just can't. The main character is a superhero, the man has vampireic powers. Also It was a rated R movie and those kind of movies equal realism. All in all It was a great movie. Hopefully the X-men Movie won't suck, but you never know until the movie comes out. In my opinion the costumes rock, they are just what I thought they would look like. But you know, these single frame pictures of the character don't do them justice until we see them film. Have you ever taken a bad picture in your lives, thats what these are bad pictures. I will hold my judgement of the film until either the trailer or the entire film comes out. But you know, I have a strong feeling that Hugh Jackman(Logan)will put out a savagely fierce performance.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:15:14 PM CST

    People OK, costumes not

    by odelay

    I hope these are just the X-men probationary/practice uniforms or something. The costumes are part of what make them who they are. Who designed these things? Some Harley Davidson freaks? Hopefully, there will be more to them than this. If they totally change this type of thing, just think of what they'll do to SPIDEY!! OH! THE HUMANITY!!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:16:13 PM CST

    this is the x-men

    by torntopieces

    Well i must say that i have been waiting twenty years to see a live action film on the x-men, first. these pictures however leave me with a sense of dread that i havent felt since i walked out of batman and robin. now i have the utmost faith in a lot of the people involved but the matrix look here is creepy. I haven't lost hope for this film but now i am worried. O k what i really mean to say is where the hell is rogue\anna paquin?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:17:31 PM CST

    Holy Shit!!! This Guy IS Wolverine!!!!

    by sexualchocolate1

    Holy shit, man! The guy looks exacually like him. Plus, they didn't change the hair that much. But nevertheless, unless this movie will prove people wrong about this so called "Marvel Curse" (which should be called the "DC Curse") I still have my doubts about the movie. I can't help but see it as yet another sappy ass superhero movie...nuff said ya'll.

    P.S.>
    That Mystique pic creeps the hell outta me.

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  • WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT. I LOVE WOLVERINE TO DEATH, AND THAT PUNY LOOKING PUNK IS NOT WOLVERINE. THIS GUY IS SMALLER THAN ME, AND I LOOK LIKE FUCKING PAUL REUBENS. WHERE ARE THIS GUYS MUSCLES? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WOLVERIVE WAS BUILT LIKE A FUCKING REDWOOD TREE. IN MY HONEST OPINION, THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RICK STEINER FROM WCW. HE IS DEFINITELY WOLVIE. I DOUBT HE COULD ACT, BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT. ALL I KNOW IS THE LITTLE SHIT IN THE PICTURE IS NOT WOLVERINE.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:24:05 PM CST

    X-men

    by sleepy

    wheres wolvies mask !!!!!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:37:17 PM CST

    I've just seen Asterix and Obelix!

    by brokentusk

    I live in South Africa and I have just seen the live-action Asterix and Obelix movie (dubbed of course).
    Now this was a good comic book adaptation!
    The costumes were excellent, they chose the right actors, the locations were excellent, everything but the dubbing was very good indeed. I hope that the X-Men movie is also a good live-action comic book movie. In fact, I prey to g-d it is, as I have been waiting for it since I heard that they were making it back in 1995 (Cinescape), well it took them 5 years to make it.
    Hopefully the movie will be better than these pictures.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:40:25 PM CST

    P.S. All Superhero Movies Suck, As Will This...

    by sexualchocolate1

    And by the way, all superhero movies (except for the first two "Superman" and first two "Batman" movies) blow majorlly hard. "Spawn", "Superman III and IV", "Blade", and any other ones out there. Which is why I wish all these movie companies would stop making them, especially after "Batman & Robin". I think it's not just Marvel in particular that is cursed (even though i don't think it's cursed at all to begin with), I think it's ALL superhero movies. They all generally suck and I think superheroes can only translate well to the comic book pages, where they belong, instead of on the big screen. Now I know, maybe Burton got away with it, only 'cause he knew what he was doing, and brought us to Batman's dark side even deeper than could be read on the bubbles on the comic book pages. But Schumacer gave a perfect example of why NOT to make superhero movies, simply because of sorry ass directors like himself. Because if directors turn these type of films into their own personal project, like Burton did even though he still did a good job, it'll come out as total popcorn! *Batman & Robin* Jesus, "Batman & Robin" looked almost exacally like the 60's TV series. Only thing Schumacer forgot was the sound-effects spelt out on the screen every time Batman K.O.-ed a thug. Another example of a bad comic movie is the last two "Superman" films. Popcorn...nuff said. And this is what I expect from "X-Men", another failure. I definitly hope I am proven wrong. The biggest failure I expect is the upcoming "Spider-Man" movie, which will probably be never made. And after reading the script, I hope it never is...nuff said. Now lets all just wait for "X-Men" to flop.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:42:30 PM CST

    X-Men

    by bl

    I think the costumes look really good. I'm glad they didn't use the comic costumes, as they'd have looked lame on the big screen. I too wish Sinister and Apocalypse had been the villians, but Mags is O.K. I'm sure the special effects for the toad will be great. Mystique looks great too. My only complaint is that Wolverine needs to 'buff up'. He does look way too weedy to be Wolvie--and I'm not sure whether the hair thing is good or not; it doesn't look that great. At least Cyclops and Mystique look class--not that I like Cyclops' character, but he *looks* cool.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:50:39 PM CST

    What about the other 500 X-men characters?

    by rodimus prime

    Costumes like that are just another reason why you should always flush the toilet when leaving the restroom. You never know when someone could use your personal creations as ideas for movie designs. I think that with all the different characters in the X-Men universe, they could have picked some that didn't need to have hip, trendy costumes. Iceman and Beast would have been good since they don't have any costume, and characters like Gambit and Angel would have also been good choices, since their costumes have dark, mono-toned colors anyway. As for Wolverine, why not just leave him in his street clothes (the plaid shirt and brown jacket with the furry collar). And Mystique would have had so much more sex appeal if she had her white gown and long hair. Prof. X and Cyclops look pretty cool though.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 1:58:01 PM CST

    From comic to film

    by 2814

    The thing that realy makes my blood boil is how much film makers worry about translateing comic books to the screen. They want to make sure that reality will accept the translation. They want to make sure that Batman for example, a man who runs around dressed as a bat won't be ridiculed wearing an all black leather outfit rather than the grey and blue original. The problem with that is this guy runs around wearing a bat costume he is going to be ridiculed anyway! So why don't you poeple just make a true translation of the comic book and not worry about the fucking costume. People don't fly, swing from building to building shoot green light out of rings. Truthfully! If can do all those things in real life, I woul be wearing a colorfull costum.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:04:27 PM CST

    Well slap my @$$ and call me Charlie...

    by the garbage man

    The cerebro hat is gay, toad looks like crap, and I've nothing good to say about any of the rest.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:11:12 PM CST

    I'm speechless

    by cineman

    Looking at these pictures my mouth dropped wide open as I scrolled down slowly. I knew it before but these pictures just cemented it in stone. This will be one of the WORST films ever made. Talk about zero anticipation. I agree with the person above who said this would probably be worse than Batman and Robin. I'm starting to wish Joel Schumacher had directed. The costumes are horrible, the actors (excluding Stewart and McKellan) are horrible, and I'm gonna save myself from being let down by knowing its gonna suck. BTW, great job King Mob 66 and Harry. for getting us the pictures. You shut those bastards right up!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:13:07 PM CST

    About that Professor X shot....

    by the kid

    Does it remind anyone of the suit he wore in the "Fatal Attractions" series (or whatever it was called). You know, the one that allowed him to walk through a great exertion of telepathic energies?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:16:10 PM CST

    Listen up, fools.

    by dave_f

    Darth Siskel said it, Mistamind said it, and I've said it before - audiences WILL accept bright superhero costumes. Most filmmakers have no real faith in the source material, so they opt for the cowardly route, but trust me, WHEN A GUY IS BLASTING LASER BEAMS FROM HIS EYES, YOU WILL ALSO ACCEPT THAT HE CAN WEAR A BRIGHTLY COLORED UNIFORM. These are "superheroes" people. More than regular heroes, get it? By DEFINITION they wear costumes that separate them from cops and soldiers. Audiences as a whole may not be real smart, but they're exposed regularly to tons of genre material in TV, books, and movies, so superheroes are not this totally alien concept to them. They'll "get" costumes that are true to the source, especially if the movie happens to be good too. Yes, like Superman. ***** Speaking of which, Xero, I can't believe anyone could actually be so foolish as to hold up Blade as superior to Superman. Blade was fun, but it was a trifle, and ultimately as vapid and empty as anything I've ever seen. Superman...hell man, that movie did nothing less than embody the whole idea of heroism and sacrifice, and you say "the story was off". Riiiight. You think dark is good? Bullshit. Dark is trendy. True heroism, as Superman represents...now THAT'S good. And by the way, John Williams score to Superman utterly dominates the in-ten-years-it'll-be-cheesily-dated techno soundtrack that Blade sports. Superman should serve as the blueprint for doing a comic book movie right. The Rocketeer is the only other superhero movie that even comes close.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:24:49 PM CST

    I'm still laughing

    by dark knight lite

    But seriously, by all appearances, when this film is released, it will be another dark day for comics fans. I'm not a big x-men reader, but I would like to see all comic properties brought to the screen with some fidelity to their source material. Maybe yellow and blue costumes wouldn't have worked, but I can't imagine these putrid excuses for costume design was their only avenue. This smacks of those directors (and you know who you are) who make horror films and then become overwrought apologists in the press. If Singer didn't want to make a comic book film, then he should have left the X-men alone. And another thing, he ruined "Apt Pupil", one of Kings most frightening stories, for which he should never be forgiven.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:26:54 PM CST

    OK snobby fanboys

    by sausage mahoney

    Ok, so Toad didn't exactly float my boat, but keep in mind that it said CIVILIAN CLOTHING, so who freakin' cares anyway? As for the rest of the costumes, I'm so glad they did them right. How much would it have sucked if they had kept those same costumes from the comic books (yellow and blue on film is just to the right of gay). And yes, they're not dynamic shots but just wait until you see them. X-Men are all about being in motion anyway. Batman and Superman look cool standing and in action, so quit comparing. By the way, I think Wolverine looks freakin' awesome, Cyclops is very cool, especially compared to how he would've looked with the original costume. Sabretooth is gonna look awesome in action and of course Prof. X is perfect and a good rendition of Cerebro too. And, of course, Mystique is the bomb diggity. And for all you skeptics, think of how many people grew up with X-Men (like myself) and how many little kids who loved the cartoon and all the net gossip going around. How anyone can think this movie is gonna tank is beyond me. Oh yeah, and Bryan "I made the coolest freakin' movie (The Usual Suspects)" Singer is an amazingly talented director and actually made "Apt Pupil" watchable. Can't wait to see the rest of the costumes and the movie!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:35:12 PM CST

    Some people just don't get it....

    by lordd_darkheart

    Okay, a few things I gotta get out of my system. First of all, the X-Men costumes look pretty Gaddamn goofy. It's really getting old with all these Hollywood people wanting to take the comic book out of comic book heroes. That's just insane. And YES, so far, Superman the Movie IS the BEST translation of a comic book to film. Both the look and the feel of the comic were preserved. Any of these idiots who don't see that need to go watch it again, AND read some of the comics. But the REASON it worked is because they hired people who actually CARED about the characters, not some jerk-off who has no idea who the characters are that he's destroying. Of course, with the X-Men, he's starting out with a lot less than they had to work with for Superman, but they should have stayed true to the source anyway. I am SOOOO sick of these "Artistic" directors and producers who want to do a comic book movie, but don't want it to LOOK like a comic book. Let's just kill all these motherfuckers and maybe we can find someone who actually gives a shit about where these characters came from. And as for making the movie darker than the comic, cuz that seems like "The way to go" If you want to make a dark comic book movie CHOOSE A FUCKING DARK COMIC!!!!!! I for one would have preferred to see the X-Men in their real costumes, with their real powers. This is just gonna suck. I guess next we're gonna see Spidey wearing black body armor, and using rappelling equipment to climb buildings instead of his spider-powers. What a fucking shame.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:41:12 PM CST

    One more thing.......

    by lordd_darkheart

    I almost forgot. About all the people complaining about the SHADE of blue used on Mystique, what the fuck is WRONG with you??!!?? You say you can accept the goofy-ass leather costumes on everyone else, but the wrong SHADE of blue is unforgivable?? I don't get that at all. She is the one CLOSEST to what she should be, and people are complaining. It almost makes me ashamed to be a comic fan.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:50:27 PM CST

    X-Men pics

    by tortured soul

    What we have here is another attempt to make a movie based on the marketablity of an established franchise rather than the imagination/vision of an artist. I am so sick of this.

    The movie is going to tank. The people who get their cash up front won't care, and the studio will assume that Stan Lee et al are simply losing their cachet.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:54:18 PM CST

    A few thoughts from Niiiice

    by niiiice

    Regardless of whether or not the costumes are true to the comic book, the costumes in the pictures look terribly uninspired, unflexible and rigid. In my opinion, the leather "uniform" motif just doesn't work at all. The best looking pictures were of Toad and Sabretooth, at least they had some color! As for Mystique, it looks like the make up artists just didn't know when to stop. She doesn't look like she has blue skin, she looks like she's a white person that has blue paint over her. Wolverine looks pretty good, except for the costume. Black with yellow highlights? What fashion designer's nightmare did that come out of?? All in all, the dark costumes are just too gritty for the X-men.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:55:02 PM CST

    Celeb cancer is on crack.

    by samuraisix

    er.. The ghostbusters themselves used the statue of Liberty, not the Sta-puft marshmallow man(In part 2, no less!) You, sir, are on a controlled substance. This, however, does not change the fact that the x men movie will suck a polar bear's funky ASS!!!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:57:52 PM CST

    CYCLOPS

    by zer0pimp

    costume looks fucking badass! but wolverines on the other hand.....

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  • Jan 22, 2000 2:58:07 PM CST

    If Beast were in the next X-Men film...

    by niiiice

    Then they'd color his fur brown or black and half of you idiots would call the rest of us "idiots" for not realizing that blue fur doesn't really translate well to film, and "don't you know the meaning of 'adaptation'" and they want to make it as realistic as possible and we should quit whining. To you people, I salute you with a mighty "Fuck off!"

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  • Jan 22, 2000 3:25:30 PM CST

    What I already feared is true

    by iaido

    These pictures prove my feeling that they should abandon this whole comic book to film medium when it comes to the superhero. Something "out there" like the Preacher could work or Jonah Hex (imagine, like Army of Darkness turned into a Western), but the superhero genre just ends up being clumsy. Bright colored costumes, weird body types, strange powers and the like, look fine on the printed page because an artist uses the select pose in one frame for the maximum best picture he can create. When you try to take that and put it into different dimensions and motion, it ends up being clumsy, like a blue screened Christopher Reeves flying as Superman or the constipated kung fu of Wesley Snipes as Blade. During the late 80's early 90's glory days of X Men, the time that it saw its surge in popularity, I was a voracious fan, but I never once entertained the thought of wanting to see a movie of them. I knew it wouldnt work. I dont want some actor pretending to be Wolverine. The Wolverine I love, and everyone else, is on the page, and could never be translated onto the screen. The proof is right there in that photo. They got some young, doofus, stud and not someone like say, Harvey Kietel, who is both the right age, height, and haggard enough to attempt portraying him (although Kietel would still fail). I'm sorry, but just buy the comics; this comics to celluliod thing is a waste of time and money. Lets see something original instead of limited and pale imitations

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  • Jan 22, 2000 3:29:27 PM CST

    Matrix rip-off?

    by human tornado

    Ya gotta be kiddin' me. This ain't no rip-off. Matrix is, since our good guy's outfits strongly resemble those worn by Zod and the evil dudes in SUPERMAN II (most notably Trinity, even her hairdo)

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  • Jan 22, 2000 3:29:40 PM CST

    Question for the complainers.

    by powerslave

    You have not seen a single frame of film from "X-Men." You have not seen any storyboards, and many of you probably haven't even seen a script. And you complain about every little thing. My question: If you are so convinced this movie will suck, why waste your time posting here? I want to know about "X-men" as much as the next person, but a lot of times I don't even bother checking the articles here, because I know it will be a mass of complaints. Thanks for not letting me down. If it's not the casting, it's the director. If it's not the director, it's the age of the characters. If it's not the ages, it's the costumes. Give it up. If you are this wrapped up in a movie based on a comic book, where over-endowed women (and men) don colorful costumes, and use magical powers to fight a variety of cartoonish villians, you really need to get out more. Quit wasting our time with your petty complaints, return to your stacks of "X-Men" comics, and think thoughts of "If I were making the 'X-Men' movie..."

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  • Jan 22, 2000 3:40:05 PM CST

    SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

    by wham

    It's the same old argument over and over. Everyone who doesn't like the costumes is thrown into this category of must think only comic costumes would work... How about not just liking them? These costumes are not very good... First off, Cyclops. I like the feel of his costume, but not too sure about those big plastic like things on his chest, and the two large circular things on his visor by the ears. Wolverine looks gay, and that's that. I like hugh jackman being cast, but he looks so skinny and wimpy in that leather. There isn't enough on the torso so it's almost like a leather jumpsuit. They should have went with a Weapon X like costume with sorta swat team padding instead of leather.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:01:15 PM CST

    Calm down - you're missing the point

    by rotaryfone

    Hey fanboys, you're missing the point here. This movie isn't about muscles and bright costumes - it's about what lies at the heart of the X-Men: the struggle between two mutants for control of the destiny of their people, an allegory for prejudice and discrimination. I stopped reading the comic a good 7 years back, but it was more than a wham bam action story - it was part soap opera part social commentary. In the long run, the costumes have nothing to do with nothing. And you can't judge the costumes and the look of the movie from these publicity stills. Give this movie a chance for crying out loud.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:10:36 PM CST

    well..

    by jack_torrance

    glad you folks are staying so positive! all i hear here is "it sucks! it's dead, forget about it, we saw 4 photos and we just KNOW the movie's gonna suck!" get a life, you've seen a few pictures, who gives a rat's ass? wait for the teaser, or (GOD FORBID) wait to actually see the movie itself before judging it. some of you people really sicken me, it's all just "FUCK THIS MOVIE, IT FUCKIN SUCKS" all some of you people do is say fuck this, fuck that, it's gonna fuckin suck, this doesn't look like the comic, and so on. boo hoo. some people are actually interested in this movie, life myself, and are somewhat intruiged and maybe optimistic. wait before judgement, you've seen pictures, nothing more. could you tell if batman was a good movie if before you saw it all you saw was the nicholson in his human form? no. i bet some of you would have said the same thing, and i quote, "FUCK THIS SHIT, ITS GONNA FUCKIN SUCK, THIS DOESNT LOOK LIKE THE COMIC AT ALL". once again, get a life, calm down, think rationally. any of you x-men makin folks out there, rock on, these pics have me interested, keep up the good work.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:16:12 PM CST

    Stan's Soapbox

    by oatu

    I remember reading a Stan's soapbox in some comic from the 70s and he was talking at the time at how the powers-that-be in Hollywood making the Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man television series didn't want them to be too "comicbooky," and how condescending they were towards the source material. Sigh. It seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Idiots run Hollywood, and they have learned absolutely nothing from the Superman and first Batman movie. I don't know - maybe they saw the reaction to the atrocious "Batman and Robin" and figured they needed to swing this one way the other way - of course it looks now like they're going way too far the other way now, with the X-Men not even appearing in costume until the final few minutes. Hello, Hollywood, Dipshit Central, that had to do with the terrible story and dialogue and showcasing Batman's crotch, not necessarily production design!!See, this absolutely drives me insane. I know I or someone else fanatical about the X-Men would put our heart and soul into the making of this movie, understanding the greatness of the Claremont/Byrne Dark Phoenix Saga and it would be so incredible...but unfortunately we have people with no regard or respect for the movie until they alter it for their perceptions, because they mostly never even read or grew up with the comic, and this movie really does mean a lot to a lot of people, and oh, I don't want to go on, it's too upsetting watching them do this to childhood heroes...

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:16:42 PM CST

    'Taint gonna be no SB commercial

    by user id indeed!

    I heard somewhere that there isn't gonna be a Superbowl commercial.But that's no reason not to watch!The Rams are gonna be there!!Hoo yeah!!!!Oh,and to the"miserable fanboy bastards",you should be glad there IS gonna be a movie.This movie was just inches away from Development Hell,to join the unholy ranks of Pet People and Roger Rabbit 2.Beggars can't be choosers,don't ya know.I'm quite the philosopher.I'm so proud of myself.EVERYONE LOVES ME!!!!Ok,that was uncalled for,but I'm in a good mood.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:41:55 PM CST

    Cyclops is wearing headphones!

    by dunehermit

    The domes on the sides of his visor are too much! He looks like Princess Leia!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:44:43 PM CST

    Professor X and the suction cups!

    by dunehermit

    What's with the suction cups on poor Patrick Stewart's head? Oh well, I guess it's not nearly as bad as the Christmas ornament Arnold Scwarzenegger had to wear in Batman and Robin.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:48:54 PM CST

    Is that Wolverine or Trinity?

    by dunehermit

    Guys, I don't know about the X-Men wearing all-black. I mean how "Matrix" of them! I think they should've stayed faithful to the classic X-Men look. It would've satisfied a lot of fans visions.

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  • Really, the costumes can be dead on in the sequel. I don't mind if they aren't just right here, so long as the characters are right, and the story is moving. I've seen nothing to ruin that hope. The concern about Marsden as a pretty boy is such crap. CYCLOPS WAS a PRETTY BOY!!! Wolverine called him that several times! It's right that he should look that way. And there's nothing wrong with pretty boys. The Cyclops and Wolverine outfits look fine, and the actors wear them well. Now lets see Rogue, Storm, and Jean. Has no one noticed that FOUR gorgeous women are in this film? The ladies only get hairy Wolvie, and jail-bate Cyc!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:52:43 PM CST

    Okay I've gotta admit...Mystique looks pretty kick ass!!

    by dunehermit

    At least I'm happy with how (1) of the characters looks.

    I guess Sabertooth looks okay too.

    Hell if they were going to cast wrestlers, why couldn't they have gotten Chris Benoit to play Wolverine?! He would've been perfect!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:55:32 PM CST

    Looks like Ray Park taking a dump

    by dunehermit

    Okay Okay don't get so serious! :)
    I know...that's a Toad pose. Alright. Sheesh! Just having a little fun that's all.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 4:59:31 PM CST

    Logain, where are you?

    by lapp

    If I met THAT Wolverine on the street, I would kick his flower-smelling ass. That's all I know.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:00:46 PM CST

    Where the hell is Magneto???

    by vanilla bob

    Okay...I guess I shouldn't be complaning, we got all these.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:01:51 PM CST

    mis-spelling

    by human tornado

    it obviously should read "noticeably" in my last message.

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  • The X-Men is a monumental waste of cash. Everything about it screams that it will be as bad as B&R or WWW. Comic book films need certifiable action/drama directors (such as David Fincher) and actors that in addition to looking good can bring a human side to these characters.....I'm sure glad Russell Crowe and Dougray Scott were lucky enough to avoid this film. Sorry everyone, but the costumes are far, FAR worse than the rubber batsuits. If they were trying to look like The Matrix, then they should have gone all-out. I'm more sickened than disappointed at this point. I hope that Spiderman is done a little more justice.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:14:42 PM CST

    Pissed off Fan Boy!

    by 2814

    Fuck all you Hollywood people who don't give a fuck about comics and fuck all you people who think that the costumes are great. The artists and writers who worked hard for years creating the comic books need to be recognized and not ignored.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:16:43 PM CST

    Got Valium?

    by the pardoner

    Mellow the fuck out people. Little things to remember about these photos... 1) There is nothing to scale them against, so Sabretooth necessarily doesn't look too menacing, nor is Wolvie able to put across his normal coiled-spring-of-death look... 2) They're standing still - pause the Matrix DVD during the dojo sequence and Morpheus looks like a goddamn trout fighting Neo the gawking tool... 3) These are almost certainly preliminary promo shots - they mean jack shit. I only have a few actual objections. The headgear looks like it's made out of cheap plastic. It would have been a nice touch to incorporate the traditional colours of each X-Man into their new costumes. Lastly, their is NOTHING that makes these guys look like a team, other than the blakc leather - no symbols, or really distinctive themes in their clothing. How hard would it have been to make an X-belt?? ___Radix malorum est cupiditas___ The Pardoner

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:20:41 PM CST

    SCRIPT AND ACTING.

    by sith lord jesus

    As I have said many times before, these are the ONLY two things that REALLY matter in the making of an excellant movie. Thus I will reserve judgement on this little project until ACTUALLY SEEING THE FILM--wacky concept, yes? That said. . .Cyke's costume looks fine; Pactrick Stweart IS professor X and Mistique--*oh, BABY!!* However Wolvie needs work and Toad--um, the less said the better. Oh well, no biggie; in any case they might look fine on screen. But like I said, I will wait until I actually see the moving pictures. Ta.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:21:53 PM CST

    People feel shame about being a talkbacker?

    by niiiice

    Wow, I must say that is quite sad. Now to the point. This story was a scoop on exactly what the X-Men would look like on film. Beleive it or not, that includes costumes. And some of you are amazed and shocked and even "shamed" that people are posting their opinions about the costumes!! I'm not a fanboy, so I won't judge the entire movie by the costumes or condemn the movie without seeing the finished product (actually, judging a movie by its trailer is also pretty premature, you hypocrites who tell us not to judge a film until we see the trailer). But I am free to my opinion of the costumes. Regardless of whether the film is a masterpiece, the costumes still suck. I'm not a stupid fanboy because I think the costumes suck.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:22:32 PM CST

    man..

    by jack_torrance

    you sicken me sszero.. whatever happened to the pledge to ban a poster who insulted someone personally, and why aren't they holding up that rule? come on harry/father geek, do something about this gaybasher.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:24:11 PM CST

    hm

    by jack_torrance

    it saddens me when apparently after the Matrix, no other movie can have black costumes without it "trying to rip the matrix off"

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:29:44 PM CST

    Eternal: Why Toad

    by niiiice

    In the early comics, Toad was part of Magneto's band of baddies, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, so it would be easy to work him into the story, rather than have a totally unrelated element like Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse. Those are both main villains, and one main villain is enough for the first film, the others should be supporting villains. Now, if only they had Pyro...

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:32:31 PM CST

    Wolverine

    by lord jedi

    I hope the movie is better than what it looks like now. Wolverine looks like Paulie Shore. The pictures look like a made for tv feel to them. Oh well. Only time will tell.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 5:35:31 PM CST

    Mystique's photo

    by darth voice

    Is it just me or is one of the main reasons why this photo looks much better than the rest is because this might actually be a still from the film? Is there any way for KingMob66 or Harry to confirm this? If this turns out to be true, are there any others out there?

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  • Will he be in leather togs as well?

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  • Its amazing how the costume designers could one-up the Batman costume designers by creating something worse than rubber body armor with rubber nipples and cock pieces. I didn't think it was possible, but these ZIP-ON skin tight leather outfits take the cake! Okay, maybe the Batman costumes weren't practical, but at least they looked semi-cool! These just look way too retarded! Oh, I can hear the responses already: "Well, they have to get in and out of their uniforms somehow!!!" When people go into a movie like "X-Men", they're willing to suspend a great amount of reality and beleif. Super mutant powers are already pretty damned unrealistic, so why do the costumes have to be?

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  • The Mystique photo looks awful. Her hair is almost as atrocious and blatantly fake as Uma Thurman's from Batman and Robin. Mystique is supposed to have blue skin, its not supposed to look like make up. That picture looks as though she just emerged from a lengthy swim in a pool of blue paint and hasn't toweled off yet. Anyone remember the alien opera singer from the Fifth Element? It actually looked like the creature had blue skin.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:08:05 PM CST

    shakin head

    by worldwidedub

    I used to be a hardcore Xmen fan
    back in the early eighties so I dont even know who is even in the modern continuation of what was, and could still be what do I know,
    the best popular comic around. About a year ago I remember hearing about The Xmen movie and some friends and I went off trying to guess who would be perfect in all the roles. I havent thought of it since till I stumbled across this. Well, it was more fun talking about it because by the look of these pictures Im shaking my head, Hollywood has taken a great idea and did it all wrong.
    That guy is Wolverine?! Who is he?
    He looks like a Backstreet Boy!
    Patrick Stewart, ok I can see that.
    Cyclops is all wrong, Rebecca sure whatever she is hot but does she have what it takes. And where's oldie but goodies like that metal guy, haha I cant remember his name right now, anyway and Storm and Rogue and Pheonix. It's gonna bite, 'nuff said.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:09:46 PM CST

    Like, Where's Storm?!?!

    by verygwyneth

    Well, I'm excited about the X-MEN movie and I can't wait for it to come out cuz I just love the X-men. The costumes look pretty fresh... but where's Storm? I haven't read or even heard about anything on her on these X-MEN Movie fansites! Like, What gives??? Storm kicks ass and I want to see her! You go girl!! MMMM hmmmmmmmmm!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:11:02 PM CST

    Niiice - a voice of reason

    by dave_f

    Niiice, it's good to see someone taking a reasonable attitude out here in Talkbackland. I'm in the same camp - hate the costumes, not planning on judging the whole movie on 'em, but sure as hell willing to debate the ill-chosen designs in response to a story ON THE COSTUMES. Geez, it's like people sometimes forget that this website REVOLVES around debating genre material. That's why we're here, idiots. ***** Getting back to the topic, I got a newsflash, people: costumes ARE important to superheroes. Story and character are paramount (no FUCKING duh), but why bother to do superheroes at all if they're just going to look like glorified S.W.A.T. officers? The bright costumes are utterly integral to superheroes. They've been around since the dawn of superheroes and they're still around now. That's integral, period. Filmmakers, let the superheroes LOOK like superheroes, you gutless yahoos.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:19:54 PM CST

    costume comic book style

    by sepi

    i hated the costumes at first but some guy did a drawing of what they would look like in the comic book and they seem pretty cool. they are based on the " days of future " series. check out corona.bc.com and judge for yourself.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:22:47 PM CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO yeah this movie is going to suck

    by cue1212

    The costumes suck no way around it. This going to be my stance on a lot of comic to live action movies. They should have done it an animated feature. I don't know about the rest of you but I am a huge fan of anime (ore as some people call it japmation ) and if we have learned anything from classic like Akira, Nija scroll and vampire hunter D, it is that American film companies don't use the full potential of animation technically ore artistically. I mean watch Akira (I think most people reading this have) that looks awesome and the story was great. Now lets take a comic/movie/cartoon show SPAWN. The comic is great and the cartoon is a very well done adaptation, movie is average at best it, the movie just did not use technology, costumes ore the story to there full potential. I will admit the problem with doing an X-men animated feature is it has the X-men series to live up to. But you could change look of the animation (do all the comic artist look the same no) I think they should have made it a serious (as possible) animated movie that way they could avoid the costumes suck because they are a bad adaptation of the comic costumes syndrome which this movie is going to suffer from in a major way. Sorry about the rant but I think it should have been an animated film. I honestly think that the western film market needs a major and successful animated movie that is not meant for the 13 and under crowed Disney market there animated films too. I say some the problem is Disney doesn

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:36:17 PM CST

    This is hilarious

    by captain loft

    I'm sure that Hollywood is shaking in it's boots now. A few hundred fanboys on AICN don't approve of the costumes. I can imagine how much better the response would be if they costumes were all brightly colored spandex stretched over the actors' less than perfect bodies (with the exception of Stamos). This movie is still going to make at least 100 million dollars and probably more if they get the story down. Pieces of shit like Armageddon bring in 200 million. This won't bomb because the geniuses on AICN don't like the costumes. It could still be pretty good. I haven't seen it, I haven't read the script, and I haven't seen any of the characters in action. Until then, I won't say much about the movie's overall quality and I think the bandwagon kids around here might try doing the same.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:39:41 PM CST

    Feedback on the Pics

    by trapper00

    Perhaps if a movie industry insider were to look here to find feedback they could use the insight of the true fan and not the expletives. Cast the actors right or don't do it. LoseWolverine is THE KEY character. Lose Hugh Jackman...you need an A LIST actor: Kurt Russell, Bruce Willis, here's a novel idea-switch Ray Parks for Hugh Jackman! There, better already.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:47:27 PM CST

    Feedback part 2

    by trapper00

    Typo in above, I'm not saying lose Wolverine, I'm saying lose Hugh Jackman and cast Wolverine right. Do that and follow the spirit of the comics--forget all the Batman movies, the Spiderman TV show, and the cartoons. Forget the source material comes from colored paper.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:51:32 PM CST

    Wolverine on Great Performances

    by cubby

    Thought you might want to see Hugh Jackman in performance in the Cameron Macintosh retrospective Hey Mr. Producer, on most PBS stations this week. Tho I must admit it is a most un-Wolverinish performance; it's extremely unlikely he'll be warbling Oh What A Beautiful Morning in the movie (still, the fellow does have a good singing voice).

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:56:29 PM CST

    whada laa hoo?

    by darth_horibus

    all u jokers who are whining about wolverine being to skinny and the costumes looking bad and saying the movie will suck can all LICK MY BALLS!! and does anyone know when www.x-men-the-movie.com will have anything new on it??????

    ps-LICK MY BALLS, you unsatisfied whyners

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  • Jan 22, 2000 6:56:58 PM CST

    X-MEN

    by kachte

    I'm really looking forward to see this movie!!!
    But I hope they'll do some changes on the costumes.
    Also I hope to see the trailer during the Super Bowl! That would be cool!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:27:57 PM CST

    EVERYONE LISTEN HERE !!!

    by 1404

    To all these shitfaces like eternal that attack the Fanboys shut up you idiots !

    something about the film huh ?I think wolvies costume looks like this DARK CLAW in AmalgamUniverse.
    that should not mean that this costumes look bad .
    I don't know what's the movie gonna be but it would be GREAT IF THE WACHOVSKY BOTHERS (MATRIX MAKERS )WOULD HAVE DONE THE MOVIE.
    I am a huge x-fan and so i sure will watch the movie and i like the costume of cyclops .Wolvie should be probably more "RUFFY Wooden Lumberjack " but he's nice.
    The things that i expect to be great are the CLASHING ON THE STREETS maybe Wolvie hacking his Claws into Walls to climb up or Magneto getting shootet but has his Shield just like in the comic and in the animated series that where shown on TV .

    AND NOW A WORD TO THE SHITFACES LIKE ETERNAL AGAIN :JUST FUCK OF YOU BITCH MOTHERFUCKER THE MOVIE GONNA BE GREAT YOU STUPID ASSHEAD DUDE YOU FUCK UP MY NERVES EAT SHIT !DO YOU KNOW WHERE SHIT GOES IN AND WHERE IT IS EXPECTED TO GO OUT ?
    AH SHIT OFF ....
    Unholy bitchasses and especially you ETERNAL YOU FOOLISH BASTARD I WANNA TELL ESPECIALLY YOU WHAT A MOTHERFUCKER YOU ARE .YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT EVEN IF THE FILM WAS A BLOCKBUSTER YOU IDIOT ASSHOLE .

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:31:56 PM CST

    Man, there's some dumb people here.

    by juiblex

    Jesus, complaining about Wolverine's lack of muscles? First of all, tights make you look smaller; for all the wrestling fans out there, look how much bigger Kane's bare arm looks than the one with the sleeve. Secondly, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Wolverine, Magneto, etc, have better things to do than spend hours in the gym every day and take steroids, which is what is REQUIRED to look like a wrestler or bodybuilder as you morons seem to think they should. Why the hell would Magneto, some forty/fifty/whatever year old guy with magnetic powers, be sweating in the gym trying to squeeze out another rep on the bench press? Grow up. People who devote their lives to martial arts, etc, do not look like Stallone or Van-Damme, either. Yeah, I'm sure all you tough guys out there could pull your face out of the comics you're jacking off over and kick Hugh Jackman's ass.

    As for the costumes: if you were a forty/whatever year old tough guy like Wolverine, would you wear a god-damned circus outfit? Jesus Christ, that's so stupid. You'd wear something dark and utilitarian, something that won't get tangled up, won't make you stand out if you're sneaking around, and won't make you look like a fucking clown. The same goes for all of them. I'm baffled as to why Magneto's even wearing the cape and helmet.

    I still think the movie will stink, but not for these trivial and stupid reasons. I'm glad Singer is trying to make a decent movie, rather than one that panders to all the fanboy morons who want something that would look completely silly and retarded on the screen (like Superman or Batman did). It's obvious that you jerk-offs only want a cartoon with blood and violence, so why are you paying attention to the live-action movie in the first place?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:44:02 PM CST

    Are you serious?!?!?

    by thom

    If this is for real, then somebody better slap me because I think that this will be one of the worst movies ever! I'm a big fan of the X-Men comics and all adjacent books, and I think what I've seen so far is WAAAYYY too dark and dreary for them. Get real people! I also agree that Wolverine's costume is too generic. The only things I'm looking foward to are the special effects and a few of the costumes that they haven't showed yet. I also hope that they don't get too generic with the story line. I'll be really upset then. Whatever they do, I hope that they don't make it another "Generation X".

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  • Jan 22, 2000 7:47:52 PM CST

    Let's sum this up.

    by wham

    I'm sick of all these dorks saying you can't have a opinion on what the movie will be like. This is talk back, it's for discussion. I can see perfectly why someone would think this movie will suck at this point. Everyone when rumours first came in, they were like don't say it'll suck wait for costume descriptions! Then we had costume descriptions, so people are like, wait till we have pictures!! Then we now have pictures so people are like, wait for the trailor!! When the trailor hits people will be like, wait for the movie!! The fact is, people like to argue, they like their side being heard. That's what we're all here for, so embrace it. The people faithfully standing by these costumes cause they're new and different sound rediculous. There's no problem with wanting something different, but clearly you can see why people would hate these. Wolverine looks wimpy, and sure you can say well it's a bad press photo.. but nearly all of them are bad press photos! Doesn't that get you worried that that's the best they have to offer? Anyways... I'm still hopeful that this movie will be good. Maybe the costumes will translate better on the big screen. I'm not going to say costumes don't matter, cause they do, a lot. They're very vital to establishing a character, it represents a lot. THAT'S what worry's me about these costumes, there's no personality to them. Individually, or team wise. Does that scream this is the x-men? No. Does that costume scream this is wolverine? No. There is no problem with Hugh Jackman, get off that. It's the costume, and a crappy photographer, and some people who don't understand how wolverine should be presented. However, I'm not convinced these are the final costumes. If you go to coming attractions they show a picture of a stunt guy for wolverine in costume. His costume is slightly better with more detail. I don't see why they'd choose this crappier one, so be hopeful.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:02:39 PM CST

    I agree with Cap'n Loft

    by 12939

    It is pretty funny to think that there's about 40 middle aged, obese, computer nerd TalkBackers that are up in arms about what the costumes look like, lol... Waddle yer fat ass on over to a Star Wars convention and shut the hell up. This movie's probably gonna get more money in the box office than u could ever imagine (since yer only paycheck probably comes from disability, 300 lb. plus beach-ball bastards.) Don't be so goddamn uptight, it's just a movie, nobody at Fox could give a flying fuck what all 40 of you think. So, on opening day, you guys can protest and not go. I'll be on line for tickets with someone I call "my girlfriend." (Course, closest thing to girlfriend u have deflates when u lean on her too hard.) I bet the only reason u bitch about the costumes being different is that you already had your mommy sew you a brand now Wolvie costume for Halloween, and now you hafta start over. Most of you think that I'm being harsh on fanboys... damn straight I am, I'm sick of their whiny bloated shit. They're hypocritical (I stress "hippo"), they judge a movie before it comes out and then feel they need to badmouth it to all their best buddies at alt.movies.nerd.obsessive. I'll wait till the movie comes out before my thumbs go up or down. Toodles.

    (I know I'll get flamed. Defense is a form of admission of guilt... so if u feel u need to defend yerself, I'm not stopping you. Free country.) -Mr. Dookie

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:03:27 PM CST

    now lets play nicely

    by grovertrover

    Hows about we all get together for a group hug?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:23:55 PM CST

    ...now I'm with Grover

    by 12939

    Ehh. I'm just pissed. It's gas. No, wait, it ain't gas. It's... I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. No, wait, I slept on the floor... It's... that time of month? I dunno. Anyway, I still don't like fanboys, but what the hell, they have as much right to BitchBack as I do, the great Mr. Dookie. So fuck you very much for listening, I'm gonna go take a nap. Toodles.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:26:17 PM CST

    Re: Maxwell Demon

    by dave_f

    Good counterpoint to the claims that the X-Men's costumes don't matter because they're supposedly not iconic like Batman or Superman. You're right, despite the costume changes the X-men have gone through, they ARE cultural icons, especially to the folks who followed the title in the 70's and early 80's when it was at its creative peak. X-Men didn't become the most popular comic in the goddamn world by being unmemorable. Why tamper with what made them unique, with what made them successful? The new costumes aren't a daring adaptation, they're a cowardly concession to the popular look of Blade and The Matrix. ****** Sidebar: Yeah, these homophobic assholes need to take a hike from Talkback. SSzero, Warrior, etc. - keep the ignorant bullshit to yourselves and try adding something to the debate for once.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 8:39:00 PM CST

    GOTDAMN MAN

    by bender

    Well there's a kick in the nuts
    fuckin shit these guys do look cool but the shots of them kinda blow
    i hope they look better in the movie.
    i think it'll do alright or i hope it'll do alright you got skills man i salute you for obtaining these shots of the x dudes

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  • I haven't read the comic books, but I have watched a lot of Saturdays morning cartoons. Hopefully, this movie's saving grace will be an intriguing take on the characters and a fine story to match. It's always a pleasure to see McKellen and Stewart. I would have thought though that the features in Wolverine's costume would be made to appear more independent, more eccentric than those of the rest of his counterparts to help accentuate his rogue bad-ass status. And yeah, Eternal is definitely right about Apocalypse. Too bad he's not in this movie.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:04:44 PM CST

    boo hoo the movies going to suck.....

    by vindrow

    I agree with some of the people on here that say to put down the movie based on a few photos is pretty lame. Even to put it down based on the trailer is down right idiotic. All of you that are wetting your pants, and bitching about the movie need to learn that this movie is about the characters, and not about what their wearing. It is a character driven movie.
    Now if he wanted to Singer could have made a Batman, or Superman clone with nothing but action, I for one am glad that he isn't. For those of you who don't work in the movie industry, you have know idea how it works. You should be thankful that this movie is even being made. If you whiners have been keeping up with interviews with singer and others would know that he didn't want the X-Men looking like a bunch of wrestler's, and Bodybuilders on steriods. This is about regular people learning to deal with their powers while dealing wtih a threat to humanity, and protecting those people who hate them.
    Just curious, how many people out ther were bitching when they saw Batman's costume for the first time? I would imagine about the same amout as I am seeing here.
    Bottom line I doubt very seriously that any of you that are complaining could do a better job on this movie, since you have no idea what it takes to do so, what with all the people that you have to answer to.
    Thank you one and all for making this movie, I know that I will throughly enjoy it when it comes out, and eagerly await the sequel.
    Thank you for all your hard work.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:13:40 PM CST

    I don't plan on seeing this movie now.

    by wesreviews

    Sorry, but this report has caused me to have zero anticipation for the movie now. It's going to suck. Bring on John Woo's un-cut R Rated Mission: Impossible 2 instead.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:14:24 PM CST

    A Note for all of the Pessimists!

    by jimmypshayes

    I'm really sick and tired of all you little fanboys complaining.."Oh the costumes should be blue and gold.." "Oh,that doesn't look anything like Wolverine.."JUST SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! If you want something that follows the comic word for word..READ THE COMIC. Don't try to spoil the film or force your sucky opinion down other people's throat!You guys are just bitter because your over 30,have got a face full of zits from making out all day long with your favorite Sarah Lee product,still living with your parents,haven't even kissed a girl that your not related to,and have to watch Comedy Central all day to come up with something interesting to say.Do me a favor--GET LAID! Instead of going to this movie,why don't you go buy a ticket and give it to a little kid who will enjoy the movie,but can't afford a ticket.Or better yet,use the money to join a gym or go out and meet people.It's a movie for Christ's Sake! Things have to change-it's Hollywood Politics-a fact of life! LET IT GO!And please,the next time you want to cram your dumb-ass views down my troat,stop masterbating long enough to type with two hands!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:18:02 PM CST

    Homosexuality 101

    by lickerish

    Aren't gays the two girls/guys who, after a humiliating night of failed searching...went home and slept with each other for lack of trying....then..out of sloth and forgoing initiative...made it a habit...that's just great...on the other hand...Wolverine looks great-I know who i'll be watching...

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:21:14 PM CST

    It's the story that matters.

    by janitor

    Yeah, the costumes are a little iffy... but effects don't make a movie, costume design doesn't make a movie good, hell, even directing doesn't matter. If there's a good script and good actors, it'll be a good flick. A good movie can have bad costumes. Until I see a script or see the film, I'm reserving judgement. As should the rest of you.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:29:37 PM CST

    Interesting...

    by hipalien

    So much vulgar language here.
    We may not need to invade.
    X-Men such interesting looking
    people in black leather.
    Mars could use women in black
    leather.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:35:14 PM CST

    Okay, wow...

    by jlf175

    That's quite a coupe that Harry pulled off getting those images.

    But where oh where is the pic of Halle Berry's outfit? Halle Berry + skin tight outfit .. how can one possibly go wrong?

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:38:43 PM CST

    Stop Griping!!!

    by nlghtcrawler

    I think it's stupid how everyone is complaining about this film!

    Think about how stupid and cheesy an actual human who was running around in tight light-blue spandex, and yellow "panties", while wearing a yellow visor would look!
    If the XMen were a real group of people, do you REALLY think that they'd wear neon-colored outfits?
    NO!
    They'd be dark and "tech" looking, just like the pics show.

    Toad is a disappointment, BUT, Ive heard that they will be adding stuff to him w/ c.g.a., so here's hoping.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:48:56 PM CST

    Just for Vindrow

    by wham

    Maybe this concept is foreign to you, but this is talk back for people to share their opinions with other people. It's for people who haven't bowed out and gotten the idea their opinion doesn't matter. Of course we can't make a movie better than a paid director, that's why we're not directing. That doesn't mean we have accept any movie Hollywood crams down our throats. Maybe Roger Ebert should quit his job on the basis that he doesn't know what it takes to make a movie. Face it, we're wannabe critics, just like sports fans are when they slam a certain player. We all have a opinion and rightfully so... I personally agree with you on many points. People saying they should have gotten Chris Benoit on the basis of him being strong clearly have no concept of what is going to make this movie great. The Wrestler being chosen to play Sabretooth however was a great choice. On the basis of him being a perfect match lookwise for him, but also he doesn't need to be as great as a actor as Hugh does for his part is probably less, and there isn't much dialouge and emotion being shown past Sabretooth's anger, which a wrestler would work well in. However, I liked cormorant's line "The new costumes aren't a daring adaptation, they're a cowardly concession to the popular look of Blade and The Matrix"

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  • Jan 22, 2000 9:48:57 PM CST

    Are you crazy?

    by juiblex


    The X-Men became "successful" and "memorable" because of their fucking costumes? And here I thought it was the whole theme of scorned outsiders fighting to save exactly those people who hate them. I guess Claremont et al will be surprised to hear that it wasn't the stories, it was the costumes and bitchin' fights. "Still looking forward to the special effects and some of the costumes"--God Damn, that's pathetic. Man, I can't wait to see the costumes! I think I'm going to come right in my pants when I see those tights and cool color schemes! Newsflash: a good movie is first and foremost about the story. Sure, you can have over-the-top action fests like Blade that rock, but that's not what the X-Men are about. Personally, I wish they'd just made the movie about Wolverine, maybe base it off the Frank Miller limited series: you'd get tons of ninja battles, a love triangle, a crazy swordfight at the end, and wouldn't have to try and develop a whole team.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:26:26 PM CST

    This means nothing! Absolutely nothing!

    by graze zero

    Alright, now we know what most of the cast is going to look like... and i have to agree with most of you, for the most part not too bloody impressive. i figure all the x-men will have the same black jumpsuit, which kinda makes sense... but it's a bloody comic book movie! Whatever. i like Mystique. i hate Toad. Sabretooth looks like a punk klingon.
    BUT.
    This will be different IN THE MOVIE. When they're moving around and ACTING, this will be different. i like Wolverine's face, and the character description... "Logan, living weapon". That has got to be the coolest thing i've ever heard.
    So keep faith. We haven't seen it in action yet.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 10:35:37 PM CST

    you negatives will all go to see it and love it....

    by gambit800

    if you don't like what you have seen and heard so far, you haven't seen the usual suspects.
    lets see what his idea is first. then judge it. it's got a good shot to be briliant.

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  • Enough said.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:19:07 PM CST

    A bunch or reasons why I'm down for the black costumes

    by b-dawg

    1) It seems to me like these photos are test shots. The photo quality is poor, not at all the kind of stuff you'd normally expect to see as publicity stills from a big-budget hopeful-blockbuster. Also, the version of Logan's costume originally posted on Corona was much slicker, with the claw marks and at least three X-insignias. I think its best to wait and see how these costumes look in the context of the film itself (hopefully in a trailer . . . soon!) before judging the film as a disaster.
    2) I, for one, like the idea of a return to the idea of the X-Men outfits as "uniforms," as they were originally and were again briefly during Jim Lee's run, rather than "costumes." We, the reader, think of the X-Men as superheros. They, and most of the people in the world they inhabit, do not. Unlike characters such as Superman, who can save the world and bask in public adoration, the X-Men have to maintain low visibility to carry out their activities, lest they be harassed by the anti-mutant public. Also unlike the bulletproof Superman, most of the X-Men are not invulnerable, and I like the functionality of the padded jumpsuits.
    3) In regards to the allegations that the black costumes are simply Matrix rip-offs . . . I fail to see the justification for this argument. From my view, the only link between these outfits and the ones in the Matrix is the color. You might as well say the outfits are rip-offs of any film with black clothing featured prominently.
    4) The general moviegoing public is being asked to swallow a big pill here . . . that super heroes can exist. There is only so far that one can suspend disbelief and get engaged with a superhero character. I would rather that people get to know Logan and the things that make him a cool character than laugh at his rather improbable mask.
    5) The X-Men have had so many costume changes over the years. Logan himself has had about five! To me, this is no different, and no less exciting.

    As a longtime reader and X-Men fan, I think that what is most important is that the characters translate well to the screen, and not necessarily every aspect of their Lycra likenesses.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:21:00 PM CST

    I miss Gambit and Pyro

    by user id indeed!

    Actually,I barely know who they are,I just wanna be a part of this.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:31:13 PM CST

    RAY PARK

    by ***

    Excuse me. Sorry if this offends anybody, but ray park looks pretty damn good in that picture!! you can see his face dang it!! and I hope they use his voice because dang, I'd be in heaven!I just love his attitude, and I am sooo ready for this movie! come on folks, all you've seen is the pictures. Let's not be too hasty toward all those awesome actors:) especially ray! I can't wait!! he looks dang good in that costume and I would love to congradulate the director. I saw one of his previous films "te usual suspects" it had a GREAT ending and I'd recommend it to anyone. This guy did a great job then and I have confidence that this will carry on the x-men ways just fine. Who knows? So what if it's a new twist to add! It could be better than before! So don't lose faith guys. Please, stay fans forever! And no matter what you all think, you see his face! YES! Ray looks dang good:)

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:50:01 PM CST

    RAY PARK IS COOL!!! and dang good lookin^.~

    by ***

    for all of you who say he looks like crap personally...I could care!! I love how he looks! He looks, excuse my wording, but he looks damn good! I love it! and I have complete confidence in the director, the cast, and all of the costumes. And all of you fans who are backing off just by the way these pics look? grow up! At least see the trailer before you go off with the crtisisms. I personally can't wait to see this film. So what if we get a little twist, it's going to be great! I've seen a former piece of mr. singer's and I loved it to death! It was called "the usual suspects" it had a wonderful ending and I applaude his every move with that one. So let's get some confidence and enjoy it! don't start picking it to pieces! Watch it FIRST! and once again, ray is hot!!! And you can see his face this time! woohoo! Now all they need is to use his cute little accented voice. so buck up folks! :):):)enjoy it!

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:51:07 PM CST

    a grown man weeps ..

    by gr3gory

    i had hopes that the "x-men" would not fall victim to the hollywood glitz.

    unless these pix are really steering the gut reaction in the wrong direction .. this movie will be SAD.

    wolverine is SO mis-cast it's unbearable. he looks like the kid from MARRIED WITH CHILDREN for god sakes!

    buckle up .. this WILL be ugly.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:56:03 PM CST

    you sure these are'nt from the Matrix sequel?

    by genraven

    I mean c'mon, look at them. All the X-Men's costumes look alike, the same trendy black leather crap. They don't look like superheroes when they wear mess like that. Whats next, Spidey in a black trenchcoat? I can't belive how badly they are ruining the X-Men franchise. Hopefully everything else will be more true to the comic. Anyhow, thanks for the pics Harry, been anticipating them for awhile. I have yet to see a true-to-comic movie, and this one sure is'nt going to be the one. Forget X-Men though, I want a JLA movie, now that would be good.

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  • Jan 22, 2000 11:57:04 PM CST

    What the fuck!?

    by g. superstar

    Where the fuck is Gambit!? Behind the obvious favorites Wolverine and Cyclops and the quitesential Storm (which I heard Halle Berry doesn't appreciate the role), Gambit is the biggest X-Man. Many of Rouge's storylines need Gambit to see the light of day. And speaking of Rouge, why the hell didn't Sarah Michelle Gellar get the role? She wanted it. Oh well, guess I'll have to wait till the Super Bowl to see how "The Matrix II" turns out. Keanu Reeves KICKS ASS!!!

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:07:09 AM CST

    You People Make Me Sick

    by icemonkey

    I can't believe all the people that are convinced that this movie will bomb before the have even seen it. Does everyone here realize that the X-Men are a comic book? That the things that go on in the book can't possibly be duplicated on film. Why would we complain that the guy playing Wolverine in too skinny? Has anyone here ever seen a 5' tall musclebound Canadian with pointy hair? And stop griping about the costumes. The costumes in these movies are changed because the people who make the movie want the NON-COMIC READING audience to attend. Even if every X-Men fan in this country showed up it would be a bomb, that is why things are toned down from the comics world. So what if we don't know who Hugh Jackman is, was Harrison Ford a household name when Star Wars came out? I remember people bitching about Michael Keaton for days when they found out he was playing Batman but now those same people would kill to have him back in the cowl. So why don't you morons go back to jerking off to your "Women of the X-Universe Calender" and stave off your judgement until the movie comes out.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:12:14 AM CST

    Another Letdown

    by rimmerboy

    Just another example of Hollywood getting it all wrong. Love that Sabertooth shot. Looks like something from Smackdown. "Can you smell what the Rock is Cookin'?" A big pile of high concept do do.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:48:48 AM CST

    Keep the faith

    by spectre668

    Hell I'll be the first to admit the costumes are something different but keep and open mind. All you fan boys are so quick to critize when panel 6 on page 10 has a different color scheme than panel 6 in comics, just try to give it a chance. You all jump to the conclusion that the X-men movie will suck just because the costumes are different. No one has seen any action or read the script, your all passing judgement on a movie passed on six still photographs, seriously lighten up. I've loved X-men since I was 4 years old and now 12 years later I've seen them go through alot of changes and I've never lost faith. I'm not saying you have to love these shots, just give the movie a chance.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:54:13 AM CST

    Was sabretooth in Metallica?

    by efihp

    gah these costumes look so cheesy. Oh and Harry i love your little sticker thingy you added on the pictures. Those pics do look horrible

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  • Jan 23, 2000 1:18:21 AM CST

    X-Men to suck Peanuts!

    by doctor x

    Oh God is Heaven, is this movie gonna suck! Suck hard like a crack whore. I wonder why Harrys bothers wasting time reporting it, since its about as far removed from being cool news in any sense of the word! How many times have I seen shitty super hero costumes that looked like that? Reminds me of the Daredevil episode of the Hulk. Daredevil was in black there too. Come to think of it, so was the one hit wonder who played Thor...all in black. Hey! I have an idea! How about when they make the Spider-Man movie...they dress him up in black leather too!
    I bet money that once this movie comes out, the X-Men line of comics are gonna eat it just like Howard the Duck did. All that Marvel has going for them is X-Men and Howard the Duck. If I were them, I would cut my losses and burn the film. The only hope this movie has is if all these pictures are clever fakes to throw us off.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 1:26:42 AM CST

    It's official....I've read the same post 30000 times

    by niiiice

    Amazing! There are exactly 3 posts that have been posted on all the X-Men scoops, and those exact 3 have been posted again and again and again, each time amazingly the poster thinks he's saying something new or smart or funny. You get the doomsday prophets of "suckdom", then the morons who try to show said prophets why the prophets are idiots and only THEY are the real smart ones, then you get the occasional passive mediator who won't make an opinion either way, but wants us all to just get along. Then, very rarely, comes along a post that makes a strong statement, then backs it up without being completely ignorant. I'd bet 90% of the posters can classify their posts into one of the three categories I mentioned. If they do, shut up or start making good arguments.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 1:36:00 AM CST

    Disappointing costumes

    by mavado

    I was an avide "old school" X-men fan. Collecting comics and reading them was a way of life during my earily teens. So when I saw the promotional poster at the local cinema, I thought
    'bout time. Then I got a look at the costumes... uh, did the designers even pick up a comic before they started working on the costumes? Wolverine, in my recollection, had a 2 tone brown costume, Cyclops was blue and yellow. Why is everybody in black leather? Even the Matrix characters (excellent moive by the way) had their own indiviual costume colors while inside the Matrix. The developers of the comic worked long and hard (I hope) on the costume designs for each character. Remember, imatation is the greatest flatery. I really hope this moive well but I think real diehard X-Men fans (myself included) will be disappointed.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:07:53 AM CST

    Movie gonna be a blockbuster!!!!

    by rocky23

    I am sick and tired of reading all of you baboons cry that the movie is gonna suck! I feel that this movie will be a big hit this summer with Patrick Stewart leading the way. The costumes look pretty cool and will look even better on the big screen. I think I need to buy alot of baby bottles for all you little brats that keeping crying that this movie looks like crap! I think all you people complaining are just mad that you were not the ones to direct and produce this movie. I think that I might check into getting movie theatres to sell baby bottles starting in July for all you big babies that continue to cry that the movie is not the way you want it to be. Get a grip on things people and see ya back here in July with everyone saying "damn that X-Men movie was awesome". Go X-Men!!!!!!

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:12:20 AM CST

    A message to the cry baby complainers

    by garak

    It is obvious you all judge books by their covers and films by their costume designs. I agree the costumes aren't the best, but that in no way means the story, the direction, the acting and the FX will suck also. You all need to get off of your 'If I was making the movie' high horses. Wait and see before you pass judgement!! If all of the above are good to excellent, I won't be giving the costumes a second thought. The only one that would stick with me is Mystique. Now that I have the totally fabulous Mrs. Rebecca Stamos on my mind, I have to go.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:12:42 AM CST

    Get Alex Ross to design

    by muramasa

    That's right, get Alex Ross. Just look at his rendition of the X-men on the July 1999 issue of Wizard or any other superhero in Marvels and Kingdome Come. He can make these costumes look totally realistic and even uses mock costumes as reference to paint from. Just look at the Superman costume that Christopher Reeve wore. You don't need to have leather to make a superhero outfit more "realistic."

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:28:52 AM CST

    Blade = Matrix

    by xero

    Ok so, Blade was made before the Matrix and The Matrix copied from Blade and people say that X-men copied from The Matrix, so that really means that X-men copied from Blade which is a MARVEL COMICS MOVIE! NUFF SAID BIATCHES!

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  • I've blah-blah'ed a fair amount about adapting superhero costumes in previous Talkbacks on the subject, and nobody's convinced me that my earlier points are wrong. Rather than try to say the same stuff a diffrent way in this round, I present to you, the Talkbackers, two editions of Cormorant Classics, verbatim excerpts from my previous posts! Exciting stuff!!! ************** First up, a classic post regarding translating superhero costumes to the big screen without them looking silly: "Qatseri, on further reflection, I think you're right about the unified costumes for the first movie. I really want the X-Men in their individualized outfits, but yeah, for the initial formation of the group, they should probably all wear some variant of the classic blue and gold design. Still, I'd argue that traditional superhero costumes is a perfectly legit idea in general. As Niiice said, we're not talking skintight spandex (ala Chris Reeves' Superman) for everyone. Use thicker materials, padding to suggest muscles, even some Batman-esque armor - there're many options to create superhero costumes, and they don't all involve thin, skintight material. The actors don't even have to be buff with muscles - that's where the padding and a little creative costuming comes in (jackets and capes for instance). Costumes individualize superheroes, and the bright colors are there because superheroes are a larger-than-life concept. If they wear all blacks and dark blues, they look like cops and government agents. Bright colors = adventurers, daredevils, SUPERHEROES. I want SUPERHEROES." ********************* Wow, I made some good points there! Indeed, a Cormorant Classic. Moving on, here's a slightly more excitable post about why the costumes are important in the first place. Enjoy the rant!: "...if you take away the costumes altogether, then YOU'RE NOT MAKING FRIGGIN' SUPERHERO MOVIES. Because superheroes are *all about* COSTUMES. I've said this over and over - the costumes make them look heroic, make them look like adventurers, make them look like GODDAMN SUPERHEROES. IF THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE SUPERHEROES THEN THEY LOOK LIKE SOME FREAKING GOVERNMENT AGENTS IN BLACK AND THAT AIN'T SUPERHEROIC AT ALL. Don't mention Blade - he's not a superhero. Don't mention the Punisher - he's not a superhero. Don't mention Judge Dredd - he's not a superhero. Don't mention the Phantom - he's not a superhero. Don't mention the Shadow - he's not a superhero. Don't mention The Matrix - they weren't superheroes. Superheroes fly, throw cars, shoot out fire, and stick to walls. Most so-called superhero movies are really just about COSTUMED CRIMEFIGHTERS, not guys with MIND-BLOWING POWERS. See what I'm saying? For the most part, with the exception of Superman, WE HAVEN

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:38:45 AM CST

    Same old same old from Hollywood

    by troy77

    This is just yet another example of how Hollywood screws up cool comic books. Batman is awesome...
    but they screwed it up on the big screen. Now the same with the X-Men. They probably had to make new costumes for the characters so they could have an excuse to come out with more action figures. I fear the same for Spiderman, but I still have hope if Raimi will direct Spidey. I look forward to seeing a full bodied shot of Mystique though....purrr.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:48:25 AM CST

    What no rubber nipples?

    by severen

    Then this film will undoubtably suck, after all everybody knows that Joel Schumacher is the only one that can make great comicbook superhero movies ;-) Actually as with everything I'll wait until I see it to judge it either way, can't tell dick about a film from a few fuzzy pics (taken from the upcoming trading card set no less). My (unsolicited) advice, don't be taken in by the hype either way, judge for yourself when the time comes.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 3:16:34 AM CST

    X-men costumes are good

    by vassago

    Ever since i've heard that the movie was finally being made, i've been extremely interested in it. At first, i was very skeptical because i was unsure of the costumes (yes, i'm sure that's the first thing EVERYONE thought of). But after seeing some of the costumes, all i'm worried about now is the quality of the acting. Ok...first i want to say that i'm not too impressed with Cyclops' costume, though it's not THAT bad. Second, Wolverine's costume(especially the one with the claw thingies) is really sweet. Jackman, though maybe a little tall/skinny for the COMIC VERSION of Wolvie, he looks absolutely perfect. The hair is cool too. And if the reports are true, he can show Wolvies rage with passion(i hope this is true cuz it would be awesome). Mystique is, how shall I say it? ...WOW. (Really looking forward to seeing her whole body..if you know what i mean). I really don't have to say it but Patrick Stewart = Prof. X...no doubt in my mind that he'll be excellent(not only does he look EXACTLY like Prof X, his voice is perfect as well). Ok, i know Toads costume shown here CANNOT be the finished product because it would be laughable next to all the rest(except maybe the pic of Mag/Ian that we've all seen...THAT was a scary pic and i hope that's not his full costume cuz it REALLY sucked). As already mentioned, with the F/X and makeup, he will be fine. As for Sabretooth, i will say that i like it. (Just think of how strange he would look with orange/brown spandex on) In better detail and in action i'm sure that he will be fearsome. And i do agree that the yellow/blue costumes from the comics/cartoon would look kinda foolish and silly in the movie...come on, what good would brightly colored uniforms really do in battle? The darker approach is definitely favorable in my opinion. I only wish that they'd had the sense to put GAMBIT into the film... I mean, he's a cool-ass cajun ass-kicker that throws playing cards, and would be extremely cool in the film. maybe they'll realize the error of their ways and put him in the sequel, along with nightcrawler and iceman, assuming that iceman isn't in this one(hey i'm not guaranteeing N-E-thing but it is rumored that he's in there. Another thing i'm not too sure about in the movie is their decision to make Rogue a teen...(What the hell were they thinking?) Oh well, my fingers are getting tired...so i think i'll stop writing this and just remember...Don't judge a book by its cover, just as don't judge a movie by its costumes(or something) oh hell i'm rambling ok bye now

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  • But I have to say, most of these pictures suck and tell me nothing. Toad looks like a guy from my old high school--you know, the scruffy-looking ones who stood outside the school store, smoking a cigarette and trying to act cool while skipping third-period English (when you talked to them, you realized it was a class they desperately needed to take). I hope Ray Park's part is more than crouching in sweats, doing funny things with his tongue and going, "Ribbit!"

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  • Jan 23, 2000 3:28:44 AM CST

    who knows

    by ripreaver

    Ah, you cant tell shit about a movie til ya frigging see it. i think these shots make most of them look kinda silly and i dont like the wolverine guy but man who frigging knows. all the production stills and on-set shots and all of it doesnt tell you dick until you actually see the movie. picard looked ok, we'll see what kind of script happens, hopefully the dialogue won't be unbearable as it probably will be....

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  • Jan 23, 2000 4:07:09 AM CST

    Point Blank X-men

    by stevenlee

    I have been waiting for this movie all my life. I'm afraid I have to say I agree with the negative reveiws on X-men, though. In fact, all of my friends(X-men loves themselves) stand with me on this. Most of the costumes, with the exception of Mystique, look rather silly and mis-done. The only reason I give Mystique a pass is because I'm easy to please when it comes to a naked blue women(I loved the Smurfs as a kid). HOWEVER, if the sets, writing and especially the cinematography can back up the costume design then this movie will be what the cast and crew want it to be. A damm fine movie!!!.....and that's Point Blank

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  • Jan 23, 2000 6:51:16 AM CST

    Will Marvel Never Learn?

    by artobot

    Okay everybody, calm down. There is nothing we can do now. As we all can see this movie is already in the final stages of production. I strongly believe that no matter how much all of the hard core "fanboys" (stupid nickname! everybody is a fan of something.) such as myself complain or how much the Brian Singer fans praise his ideas, there is nothing anybody can do to pull this movie out of the crapper. It's too late. But we all know that no matter what, we are all going to see it. Just like when I about messed my pants when I heard that Todd McFarlane was doing a Spawn movie and I rushed to the theatre only to leave moments later sobbing. My only hope is that Brian Singer and maybe some executives at Marvel will see some of these e-mails and take some hints. Let's do a quick run-down of Marvel failures for those of you out there that don't remember. Anyone who's anyone who considers him or herself a fanboy/girl remembers the three horrible

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  • Jan 23, 2000 7:27:31 AM CST

    my reaction

    by alienpredator

    Wolverine isn't a short guy in a mask dressed in yellow and blue. He's a man who's gone through hell and is back because the devil couldn't stop him. He's a man who's lost more than anyone I know can even imagine. He's a almost feral warrior who's life is defined by honor, loyalty, and pride.
    Cyclops isn't some guy wearing fancy eyewear and another suit of yellow and blue. He's a man that has done the impossible many times over. He's the leader of an elite team whose only bond is due to an extra twist in their DNA. He's a man who takes responsibility for everything that happens around him upon himself.
    Rogue isn't a girl with bicolored hair who wears green and yellow. She's a beautiful young woman but almost everyone around her is terrified of her, she even scares herself. She's one of the most powerful beings on earth, but she cann't even touch those around her. She's a girl that has seen and done a lot of terrible things, but is doing what she can to make amends. I could go on and on. The X-Men aren't defined by their costumes, their defined by their pasts, their powers, their talents and skill, their personalities, their hobbies, etc. The last thing that we should worry about is whether they're wearing Nikes or Doc Martins.

    Sure the costumes aren't terrific and they aren't terrible, but who cares? The costumes don't make the movie. We have to remember that this movie is about the original organization of the X-Men, and that it has to be comprehendible to all audiences, not just "comic geeks".
    Listen to what a few people have said, don't pass judgement until you know more. A few bad pictures of unfinished costumes worn in bad poses isn't going to make up my mind as to how good a movie is.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:04:26 PM CST

    HOW MUCH THIS MOVIE"S GONNA SUCK

    by rossimo

    What the fuck are you people thinking, were the casting directors on crack when they made the cast as well as the freaking bitch ass costumes. Damn this movie is gonna be so bad, you don't mess with originals, and you just screwed up one of the last pure marvel superheroe team. Where the hell did the black lether come in? What is this, an S&M X-men? I'm 16 and i look old enough to be cyclopses father, whats up with that shit. Why would anyone waste their time watching some fag in black leather shoot red lasers out their eyes, the cotumes kill the whole damn movie, the actors as well, this movie's gonna be the worst bomb, the real costumes would have made it better, but no, you guy had to make it SUCK.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 12:41:50 PM CST

    X-Men

    by madripoor

    Sabretooth Looks like he could kick Wolverine's butt!
    ...But we have seen the CGI claws yet, or the feral look.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:02:02 PM CST

    Ok, get the facts straight...

    by brenden

    First of all nobody will read this cause it is at the bottom but o well. If you read the article in the Jan/Feb issue of Cinescape Bryan Singer said everthing that would appear "Cheesy" has been ruled out. Now picture if you will a team of super powered mutants running around in bright colored uniforms in a world like to day. What they are trying to achieve here is a more realistic type of hero, not the heros are real, but to make it more believeable. Personally i agree with whoever said Superman was a true example of a hero, but in a cheesy 70'ish kinda way. I like what i see. And whoever said this moive is going to flop is dead wrong. Get the facts straight man "The Uncanny X-Men" is the most successful comic book series in the history of comics, even more than Superman. If i wasn't aware of this movie till i saw the trailer i would be so syked when i heard about it. Now please wait untill you see the movie to say it sucks.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:03:55 PM CST

    Not my X-men.

    by darth_ebert

    Who the FUCK are these people. I've waited 20 Years for an X-Men movie and THIS is what I get!!!!

    I wouldn't mind so much if this was the TV reality where Bill Bixby was David Banner and Lou Farigno The HULK. Although the Thor in those sucked, the rest of it had a sort of cool, real world, super hero quality. I could under stand Daredevil in a black "Snake Eyes" outfit. But this is supposed to be a big budget movie.

    It's obvious the Rob Liefelds and Todd McFarlens of the superficial "every page a splash page" age of comics have seized control of Hollywood and have decided to fuck up every thing we've grown to love.

    Have any of these idiot executives gone back and READ X-Men from 94 on at least! Have they every bothered to READ a comic? Or did they just stuff them in a Comic Bag with a non-acid center board to keep the value up?

    If any X-men should make it to the silver screen it should be the Byrne/Austin/Clairmont X-men that defined the characters and the books. Instead we're getting these X-men inspired knockoffs in a "Batman Movie" world.

    Hollywood has lost touch with the people they are trying to Entertain, so we get "The X-Men in Black."
    Or the failed "Leaving Metropolis" Superman.
    Or Joel Cocksuckers "Gay Dance Party" Batman.

    Blade was the last good Comic book adaptation, Why? It was in our world, or damn close to it.

    Why is it that the less known the Comic book hero, the closer to reality they can be.
    Except for the Donkey Kong Hell in Spawn it was an Okay movie and was true to the character. Spawn's not the greatest material to work with, but it was watchable.
    I bet Shi will be a good adaptation of the Comic book because the character isn't that well known.

    Superman, for all its compromises was great. Even Superman IV, which was a lump of crap had more soul than the entire Batman Series.
    I know I'm going to take flames here, but ALL the Batman's Sucked. I don't want to see an over the top "funny book" world with exotic hero's and villains.
    I want to see gritty real world where I can believe I might see Jean Grey and Scott Summers in his red glasses skating in Rockefeller Center. Or get the wind knocked out me when I bump into Clark Kent, on his way to report find a News story. I want to wonder if Donald Trump could be Batman in MY world.

    I want to be connected to the world my comic book hero's come from because like every one else, I need some hero's in MY life, not in my fantasy world.

    Is the box office on the Extravaganzas so big that they can throw away the long-term core of cult fans?
    Don't they realize this KILLS a cash cow franchise that could last for generations?

    I think we need to bring back the Hollywood Musical. That way all the Fags who are destroying our Comic book heor's can go make their Extravaganzas and we can get back stories of good Vs. evil.

    I'm going to sit down and watch my Bootleg of Roger Corman's "Fantastic Four". As bad as it is, at least it's the FF I know. Not some bastardized re-interpretation of them, and in light of what's been done to the X-men, I bet Dr. Doom's mumbilig will seem a lot better that it did the first time I saw it.

    Untill Batman is a Dective again.

    Darth_Ebert.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:39:27 PM CST

    You ever see FANTASTIC FOUR??????????

    by ceagod

    As a gorwn man and a "loyal" XMEN fan of 20 years who has been waiting almost 2 decades since rumpours first arose in the early 80's, I must commend Brians depiction of the characters in a more sci-fi approach, as I have always viewed them and the FF cast. After living thru the Hulk, WonderWoman, Spiderman and Doctor Strange or WonderWoman the movie on the 4:30 movie back in the day or the Superman Movie days, I gotta tell you people that you should appreciate the depiction of the Xmen and be appreciative of the fact that the costumes WERE NOT done to the "T" or "Xpectations" of the book. Did you cats see the FANTASTIC FOUR movie. DISGUSTING!!!!! Superman succeeded with the classic costume because he as a character is totally unbelievable. The Xmen have always been frightengly, slightly and questionably believalble. Especially in an age of biological warfare. You cant' make anyone believe in the Xmen, which are more paramilitary, in those rediculously unessesary homo outfits in the book. If I had long ass claws extend from the back of my hands or could shoot blasts that can level the Great Wall and better, why the hell would I go put on a leotard to appear as a dingleberry ballerina. Brian and to the designer, hats off. My own characters in my book (BLACKWORLD, deputing in June 00) wont appear as "nymphs" either. If you did the classis costumes you would've been hung either way. These are fical fake fans. Take it from a true one. Everyone, all together now....SHUT THE HELL UP, and enjoy the film because I can't hear over all the noise.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 2:40:02 PM CST

    *Sigh*

    by lee69637

    I only had won hope for this movie, and that was that they put together a cast that resembled their characters. Really now, do they even know how tall woverine is??? GAWD I COULD CRY!

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  • Jan 23, 2000 3:59:41 PM CST

    CEAGOD = Sheky Shumacker Jr.!

    by darth_ebert

    "As a grown man and a "loyal" XMEN fan of 20 years who has been waiting almost 2 decades since rumpours first arose in the early 80's, I must commend Brians depiction of the characters in a more sci-fi approach, as I have always viewed them..."

    What did you get? Comix books for the BLIND. We're they read to you by George Costanza you FREAK!!!

    "You cant' make anyone believe in the Xmen, which are more paramilitary, in those rediculously unessesary homo outfits in the book. If I had long ass claws extend from the back of my hands or could shoot blasts that can level the Great Wall and better, why the hell would I go put on a leotard to appear as adingleberry ballerina."

    Oh! I see your point! I'ld put on a bunch of leather and rubber so I couldn't turn my FUCKING HEAD or raise my clawed arms. After all, the last thing a Super hero needs is FREEDOM OF MOVMENT!!!!!

    I've WORN leather and Rubber, and Spandex/Lycra. I can kick ass alot better in Spandex/Lycra than I can in leather and Rubber.

    If you're going to be technically correct, they SHOULD be wearing generic Military issue clothes with some tacticle body armor. Like Treanchcoated Terrorists, because guess what Jack ass!!!! Paramilitary types don't spend their money on Costume design in the First place. You wouldn't be able to be tell the X-men apart from the Avengers or Superman or BATMAN! because they would all be buying their shit at same ARMY surplus store. They would have baggy clothes with lot's of pockets that allowed free movment and comfort because when your in the middle of combat the last thing you want is a SUPER WEDGY up your ass when you jump kick the bad guy in the face. That's how you get distracted and killed!

    If you had balls you would have invariable had one slip out of your jockies once and know the unimaginable pain of fixing your croch. Now imagine doing that with some freak throwing a gas tanker at you with his magnetic powers.

    They would probably HAVE to form the Justice Leauge just to keep them selves in war surplus clothes.

    I'm sure your book will do great. There's an endless supply of Dumb ass punks who have never been in a real fight, and have no respect for traditon.

    Why don't you make your book 4 quadruple sized posters with no story whatsoever! Then you won't have to bothered with a pesky plot and story line.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 7:22:26 PM CST

    The Good, The Bad & The Stupid

    by buzz maverik

    Arrgh! I'm not asking for everyone to be running around in tights made of unstable molecules, but could they have at least tried to ADAPT the costumes and looks in the comics? You know, like Tim Burton's Batman movies different but the same as Mr. Miyagi told Fonzie when he wanted to date Pinkie Tuscadaro. The bad guys looked good. Sabretooth was excellent. Mystique was awesome. Professor X with cerebro on his head looked good. But was Cyclops going scuba diving or what? And is Wolvie wearing a stil-suit from Dune? This clown would have made an awesome Wolverine if they would have dressed him similar (notice I said similar--doesn't have to be exact) to the comics.And the Toad. Whuzupwiddat? You have Ray Park crouching down, pretending to be a toad. I'm not convinced. This is going to suck.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 7:38:41 PM CST

    Unspectacular Costumes = Bad Movie?

    by sorcerer

    What kind of moronic train of thought is this? "The costumes aren't very good, therefore the movie will SUCK!" Talk about leaping to conclusions- something Talkbackers seem to do on a regular basis....

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  • Jan 23, 2000 8:18:25 PM CST

    Just for Wham

    by vindrow

    I have no problem with people wanting to be critics, but when you start putting down a movie based on a few promotional snapshots, to me thats not critisism thats just complaining and whining about something they haven't even seen yet.
    I'm sorry but there is no way that people can say that a movie is going to bomb based an what we have seen so far. There are some things that I have seen that I don't agree with, but I am willing to wait for the movie before I pass judgement on what I thought about it. I just think that it is reasonable that others do the same. Its just unfortunate that they won't do that.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 9:01:31 PM CST

    Here's the Logic.

    by darth_ebert

    If they didn't respect the traditional cosutmes...

    If they didn't respect the traditional character types...

    If they didn't respect the traditional history...

    They Probably didn't respect the traditional storylines.

    Any one who read the comic books they based the crap cartoon on know how much they can fuck things up. Now they're fucking things up further.

    It's like an idiot driving our bus off the edge of a cliff screaming back at us "Shut Up! I know where we're going."

    So do I, over the edge of the cliff.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 9:29:54 PM CST

    Not Good Logic

    by sorcerer

    So because David Cronenberg changed the design for THE FLY, he didn't respect the tradition and it was a bad film?

    A good movie doesn't slavishly copy everything from the source material. It must have its own identity. Why does everybody here rush to condemn things based on a few photos?

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  • Jan 23, 2000 10:58:29 PM CST

    C'mon now

    by lee69637

    Me personally, whatever opinion I have about the movie weather it's good or bad I'll see the movie! I think that we all have a different feel of what the XMEN are to us, but we all agree on one thing...WE DON'T WONT THE MOVIE TO BE A DAMN SHAME! I'm sure most of us would love to help out the casting and directing crew of the movie, but were not. Makes me wonder if they should have left it to the animation like that of the final fantasy movie. Lets not get crazy tho and save the hating for after the movie:) and hope that they learn from what ever mistake they make.

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  • Jan 23, 2000 11:57:48 PM CST

    Deferential

    by aaronhayden

    Harry, I bagged on you a little in the past about culling "scoops" from other sources and calling them your own. I said that maybe your ability at gaining unique information was on the decline. I just hope that, after not having checked the internet all weekend and responding to this post really late, someone will see me giving major kudos to Harry on this awesome scoop. Thanks, Harry.

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  • Jan 24, 2000 2:20:27 AM CST

    X-Men a love/hate THANG

    by hope13

    I've been an X-men fan forever and a day, and when the curtains open on this show..
    I'll be there! In the front row, popcorn in hand, READY to support a great ideal, but let's face it... The pictures of the costumes do not excite me. I want this movie to work as much as any true fan, but to tell you the truth, they should not have picked such a dark and foreboading look for our favourite mutants! The X-men are not about the dark things in life, their about hope! These characters where created to send a message of Love and understanding, they are a group of exciles who WERE thrown together under imposibable circustances, YET have the strength within themselves to except there differences and try to create a better world for themselves and others. They are characters to which, can look past hatred and see the light of the future, yet to come. In a way, I guess the ideas of comicbook simply known as the X-men are the very embodiement of what it is to be human!
    I would hate to think that message should be lost, just because of few short sighted designers, who care more about profit than true enligtment!

    Sueanne Elizabeth MacInnis

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  • Jan 24, 2000 5:12:14 AM CST

    REBECCA ROMINJN-STAMOS IS LOVELY...

    by reni

    She's well fit... bloody hell...

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  • Jan 24, 2000 5:20:30 AM CST

    the costumes...

    by reni

    I'm no X-Men fan but the costumes, no matter how preliminary they are or were, look pretty bad... It's like the Spiderman script, maybe in these instances the Studios should leave all scripts and design to the comic book writers and if they want, leave it a little open for rewrites etc later on... I don't know who they got to make these designs but they look like second rate Batman costumes, and those designs are as good as 12 years old...hmmmm....

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  • Jan 24, 2000 11:51:13 PM CST

    Cormorant, you're so damn right

    by limbo

    Cormorant, I'm so glad to know that someone else appreciates the two best superhero movies ever made. Superman is the--THE--only superhero movie to tell the story of a superhero in a truly epic way. No other superhero movie has captured the magic like that (though the first Batman tried hard). Rocketeer had the magic, if not quite the delivery. But yeah--Superman. Until someone's willing to tell a superhero story with that kind of reverence, and heart, comic movies will always be seen as a joke.

    (Or they'll have to gain respect by coming at the comic-book angle in indirect ways, like The Matrix--which really did kick some serious ass.)

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  • Jan 25, 2000 10:45:02 PM CST

    Opinion Versus Opinion that is all it is.....

    by jjay

    The Black Costumes
    the X-Men wear in this
    particular up and
    coming movie are not
    that bad. In my
    opinion the mass
    majority of Non-X-Men
    Fans could only accept
    them this (my opinion)
    more toned down way.
    The bright color
    uniforms could have
    been created and
    designed to look good
    like the comic book,
    but I just am not
    convinced that with
    this being the
    potential blockbuster
    it will be that you
    can chance it (yet).
    In X-Men 2 perhaps we
    can get away from the
    black leather costumes
    and try the colored
    ones. Although, Hugh
    Jackman does not have
    my envisionment of
    Wolverines (Comic Book
    physique), but at
    least he looks like
    Logan and hopefully
    has acting ability to
    make the part seem
    real. In this case I
    think acting is more
    important than having
    all the muscles and
    bright costumes just
    yet. Building
    credibility with a
    non-X-Men based mass
    audience is lot harder
    than many people
    think. This movie has
    such a wide and rich
    character base and
    each character has so
    many unique and
    special attributes
    that realistically
    speaking there is no
    way no one man or
    filming crew could
    capture every
    individuals exact
    ideal X-Men. I think
    the movie will be
    great to most (80%) of
    X-Men fans and (90%)
    of the mass audience
    that are not X-Men
    fans. The bottom line
    is that the masses
    have to accept the
    movie and their
    priority goes first
    with this kind of a 70
    million $$$$$ budget.
    I am just glad that
    the X-Men movie is
    going to be made and
    will have X-cellent
    special affects.
    Black uniforms are
    better for stealth at
    night anyway.



























































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  • Jan 26, 2000 1:15:50 AM CST

    the new X-men movie is gonna rock total ass!!!

    by hercules55

    I've heard the hype, I've seen the postings, but really, with what movies are doing today, and the special effects involved in this one inparticular, it's gonna rock big-time!! just look at the franchise, even if the movie does suck ass it's still gonna make a friggin killing at the box office, but it can't suck as bad as the shadow or spawn. those pretty much sucked. we all saw how blade did, one of the other movies that made the MARVEL name stand out in glory. truthfully, pictures don't do much for the look of the characters but i think live action will be just fuckin awesome!!!

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  • Jan 26, 2000 5:29:48 PM CST

    x-men movie

    by numbers

    This is really disappointing. Any true fan of the X-Men, present or past, could see the lameness of these costumes. I am so sick of these films that totally destroy the beloved images of superheros. What's the problem? Is there a rule that no one can direct a super hero movie if they have read the titles? What does it take to get a director with a modicum of loyalty to the original concepts of the characters? How could they do this to X-Men? How?

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:01:49 AM CST

    THE XMEN

    by loustar

    I REASONTLY READ THAT THEY WAS PLANNING TO KEEP BEAST, PYRO, AND WOLFVERINE OUT OF THE MOTION PICTURE. I ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE COSTUME THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO LOOKING LIKE THE COMIC BOOK VERSION IS MYSTIC. AND I ADD THAT IF IM DISAPOINTED SO WILL BE OTHER MOVIE VIEWERS.

    P.S. THE WAY THE MOVIE IS HEADED IT WILL TURNED OUT TO BE A FLOPP!!! COMIC BOOK FANATICS WILL BE VERY DISAPOINTED!!!

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  • Jan 27, 2000 12:34:47 AM CST

    "COSTUMES" AND "CHARACTERS"

    by loustar

    WERE I LEFT OF. IM JUST WONDERING CAN ANY BODY GET IN CONTACT WITH THE MAKERS OF THIS MOVIE. TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IF THEY REALY WANT A BLOCK BUSTING, MONEY MAKING, AND PEOPLE WANTING TO WATCH IT AGAING. THEY SHOULD MATCH THE CHARACTERS WITH THE EXACT COSTUMES FROM THE COMIC BOOKS. SINCE SPECIAL EFECTS THEY DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. ARENT WE IN THE YEAR 2000! WE SHOULD HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THE SPECIAL EFECTS ALREADY. ALL THEY DOING IS MAKING THEM SELVES LOOK BAD. AND BY THE WAY THE MAIN CHARACTER FROM THE MOVIE "MUMMY" SHOULD BE WOLFVERINE. JUST MABEY IF THEY WOULD OF DONE THINGS WRIGHT MAJOR STARS WOULD OF WANT TO WORK IN IT. LIKE "TOM CRUISE" AS "CYCLOPS"!

    P.S.THE COSTUMES SHOULD REALY MATCH THE COMIC BOOKS. IF YOUR THAT GOOD YOU SHOULD LET THEM KNOW.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 1:13:19 AM CST

    WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????

    by whiteskafreak

    Okay, this is all just fine and dandy that we got this great new x-men movie coming out... hooray hooray. Just one question though.... WHERE THE HELL IS GAMBIT? They left out my favorite x-man and a very (in my mind at least) important one at that! What? There wasn't an actor who could play him well enough? Oh well, maybe if the movie gets a decent soundtrack it will be worth salvaging. None of this Third Eye Blind and Smash Mouth teenie bopper crap. I say get some Pantera and Korn on there.

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  • Jan 27, 2000 6:49:41 PM CST

    EEgads

    by idsf18776

    Well.. Some things are good but...


    Im happy they finally decided to do an X-Men movie, been reading them since the 70's. However, I wish that just once, these studio hotshots and so-called creative geniuses would stop killing a winning combination. NONE of the costumes look like X-Men, the familiar looks have been replaced with "updated" 90's styles, which plainly suck. Toad is way too skinny, logan looks too young and reminds me of something out a bad remake of west side story. They seem to have left out some of the key characters. And by the way, Mystique does not have darker blue spots on her head. I was waiting for this movie to be made for years and now I doubt I will even bother seeing it. Seems that Marvel si getting lax on who they let do their movies. Hell, that made for TV movie movie a few years back had better costuming. My comment is pretty much, "WHAT WERE THESE IDIOTS THINKING!?!?!?!"

    comments of an intelligent nature welcome.

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  • Jan 28, 2000 11:25:45 AM CST

    I AM IN THE MOVIE!!!! WOO-HOO!!!!

    by skarbro

    Hello there dreamers! I would just like to say that I live in Toronto, where they are shooting the movie. And I am an extra!! It's a dream come true!

    I met the guys who play Wolverine and Sabretooth - NOT TOO GOOD!!!!!

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  • Jan 28, 2000 4:29:57 PM CST

    one word...

    by m_wahoski

  • Jan 28, 2000 5:09:22 PM CST

    crap

    by n1ck

    The x-men movie looks crap. I've waited for years for this and they have ruined it. The only good ones are mystique and professer Xavier. The costumes are total crap. I hope they don't ruin Magneto because his costume is cool in the comics. It looks like another film from a comic is turning out crap. How can anyone like the costumes? Who the hell designed the costumes.It will probably turn out like Batman and Robin. I bloody well hope not. It could however turn out like Batman or Batman Returns but it is not likely looking at the photos.

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  • Jan 28, 2000 10:43:17 PM CST

    This looks like yet another Marvel Disaster!

    by smax

    Oh for crying out loud!! How many more times must I put up with pathetic, lamely-produced comic movies? What in blue blazes were the retards who made this movie thinking when they cast this debaucle? Even more amazing were their choices in costumes. Absolutely pathetic!
    It makes me wonder: Does anyone READ the comics before they produce a film on them?
    This film will no doubt fail miserably joining "The Punisher" and the never released "Fantastic Four" on the dung heap! No bloody wonder that Marvel Comics is STILL bankrupt two years after filing!
    To you who made this garbage I say,"Burn forever in the deepest recesses of Satan's butt crack!! You deserve it!!! YOU SUCK!!!"

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  • and replace Brian Singer's real camera with a fisherprice toy;he'll never know the difference and he'll do less damage.

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  • Jan 29, 2000 9:56:48 PM CST

    Costumes and whiners

    by jedicole

    I am in a state of mixed feelings about the whole costume issue regarding the X-Men movie. On the one hand, something more akin to the source material would have been quite agreeable, but at the same time, if all you want out of this movie is a costume party, perhaps your expectations are a bit stilted. I would much rather sacrifice "authentic" costumes for a good story and a worthwhile film that may spawn others (ever see a bootleg copy of the Fantastic Four film? It had accurates costumes and NOTHING else!). I think thought the naysayers here are balking at the costumes seen at this point you have to realize that these are publicity photos and may not reflect the attire of the entire film. Perhaps they do, but regardless I would hope to find more in this movie than just a bunch of great costumes. You can go to a comic convention (if you don't live in the DFW area in Texas like I do where we don't have them any more, but that's another story)and get your fill of authentic costumes. And quite frankly if you've ever seen someone dressed up as any number of comic characters, brightly colored and accurate, you soon find the limitations of going from the comic book to reality. A lot of these costumes in the comics (where anything is possible) don't translate well into the real world, repleat whith physical limitations and limited materials choices. The bottom line is this: Bear in mind that this is an innaugural film. It has great potential to be the springboard for more, as the first Batman film was, despite its many detractors (some of us remember this scenerio only too well). The X-Men enjoy perhaps one of the largest fan bases of any comic around, but being a comic fan and a realist, don't forget that no matter how large a following they have within comic fandom, those who have little to no knowledge and/or interest in the X-Men in the general public almost certainly outnumber that fan base 100 to 1. You should count yourselves lucky that after all these years someone is making an X-Men movie and at least having a go at making it worthwhile. The shot of Professor X reflects a faithful knowledge of the source materials that so many of you seem to have looked right through. The Fantastic Four and Captain America met their film debuts with much less care and attention.

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  • Jan 29, 2000 10:54:30 PM CST

    alright, you bastards finally made me talk

    by jekyll

    while i must admit that the costumes have me a bit apprehensive, especially after having seen the generation x made-for-tv movie, i'm not going to talk about that right now. blade did just fine in the costume he had. i would like to request that somebody who matters will contact singer and advise him to procure a few hundred x-title comics, and sit down to read them with the entire cast an crew. let them see what this project is all about. when you look at the old superman, hulk, and spiderman live-actions, you get the impression that this was exactly what those people did. while allowances were made, and mistakes abundant, it was obvious that the people knew what the characters were all about, and that no matter what direct they took the story in, the portrayal would remain true. the fact remains that when you see chris reeves in the outfit, you see superman. years after this film's debut, when these people put on the suits(again, disregard what the suits look like), will you see the x-men?
    that became the one redeeming factor of capt. america and the fantastic four.
    and it was what killed the spawn film. when i look at the man(who's name escapes me right now) in the suit, i see rubber and latex, not the iconoclastic zombie in the infathommable costume. or the trademark suffocating atmosphere. i saw a movie studio and men making cgi's.
    what's important is the feeling you get when you watch the movie. not only is it true to the source material(batman was a great movie by tim burton, butit wasn't batman the comic), but does it draw you into the same kind of world that you entered when you were young and fell asleep reading your favorite comic? if the director and the stars have never been to that world, then no great amount of visuals and superior cinematic skill will allow the movie to accomplish it's purpose.
    or, this could just be another shameless attempt by a hollywood that is as close to it's audience as a detached retina, who sees us only as consumers. the same hollywood that produced utter shit like godzilla and the last two batman movies, that were blatantly no more than glorified commercials for toys and cheap merchandise.
    now i'm done.

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  • Jan 30, 2000 2:27:56 AM CST

    Why does Hollywood ALWAYS turn superhero costumes black?!

    by talldkstr

    Batman, Daredevil, Punisher, and now the X-Men. Why does Hollywood insist on taking cool-ass costumes and replacing them with black leather? Are they just cheap and unimaginative, or too cynical to think that colors can look heroic?
    These costumes look generic and uninspired. What's next, changing their powers?

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  • Jan 31, 2000 1:15:52 PM CST

    Disappointment.

    by dlgcp1

    Y'know it would have been just as easy to get this right as it was to screw things up. In my opinion, comic book characters like Superman, Batman, and the X-Men are PUBLIC DOMAIN. It's the film-makers responsibility to make an effort to faithfully represent as much existing public perception about pop-culture icons as they can. IT IS NOT an opportunity for egotistic "artists" to re-create these archtypes in his or her own image. It's not too bad when you adapt a NOVEL, since the film-makers are forced to bring the characters to life according to ther own imaginations. But for classic heroes like the X-Men, it's a slap in the face to public consciousness when this sort of travesty happens.
    Please, oh, please, make these outfit prototypes, designed to throw us all off the REAL ones. A good bit of the X-Men's definition is in their appearance, now they look generic and boring. This is a major motion picture, fer Chrissakes, why does everyone look like Daredevil when he appeared on the old Hulk TV show?

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  • Jan 31, 2000 1:22:02 PM CST

    Disappointment.

    by dlgcp1

    Y'know it would have been just as easy to get this right as it was to screw things up. In my opinion, comic book characters like Superman, Batman, and the X-Men are PUBLIC DOMAIN. It's the film-makers responsibility to make an effort to faithfully represent as much existing public perception about pop-culture icons as they can. IT IS NOT an opportunity for egotistic "artists" to re-create these archtypes in his or her own image. It's not too bad when you adapt a NOVEL, since the film-makers are forced to bring the characters to life according to ther own imaginations. But for classic heroes like the X-Men, it's a slap in the face to public consciousness when this sort of travesty happens.
    Please, oh, please, make these outfit prototypes, designed to throw us all off the REAL ones. A good bit of the X-Men's definition is in their appearance, now they look generic and boring. This is a major motion picture, fer Chrissakes, why does everyone look like Daredevil when he appeared on the old Hulk TV show?

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  • Jan 31, 2000 2:18:36 PM CST

    Cyclops does not fire "laser beams"

    by savannath

    After reading it one too many times, i would like to comment to those of you who keep repeating that "cuclops will look much better with lasers shooting out of his eyes..." Cyclops does not shoot lasers out of his eyes. His optic blasts are concussive in nature and inflict damage like a sledgehammer would. Lasers burn. It will be interesting to see if the movie takes this into account.

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  • Jan 31, 2000 3:04:19 PM CST

    what's with the anit-gay slurs?

    by savannath

    It seems like every other posting has someone referring to faggots and gaydom and stuff. What's up with this? I agree that the costumes are bad, but believe me, as a gay man, there is no way in hell that i'd ever wear any of those costumes. Wise up guys (SSSZERO, Lickerish, frankweiser) and get over your homophobia.

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  • Jan 31, 2000 4:59:46 PM CST

    body armor

    by xycko

    yalala, sucky sucky!!

    what the fuck is this supposed to be?
    lost in space2?
    what a fuckin rip offffff!!!!!!!!
    get some new suits assholes
    and where is gambit?
    eh!
    WE, (i) think :
    CHANGE the fuckin outfits!
    what is this , some pussy paradise?
    Get some real original outfits!
    Don't abuse ray park like this!!
    He deserves better.
    I hope to god the force will save this mess!

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  • Jan 31, 2000 5:29:15 PM CST

    All you Lame-os (and you know who you are)...

    by mzzilla

  • Feb 01, 2000 12:50:44 PM CST

    ughhh... what happened to the X-men?...help!

    by mcface

    AAhh Crap, I had a feeling this would happen... For me this was the most anticipated movie like ever, but I'm very afraid now...Uhh...that it will suck. If we're lucky Bryan Singer can pull this movie together, but I really wish I hadn't seen that picture of Toad, and Wolverine for that matter. Damn they should have had Gambit in the movie, that woulda been cool. Well, I have two friends that were braggin to me about bein extras in this movie, maybe the joke will be on them, but I would not prefer it that way.

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  • Feb 01, 2000 3:24:21 PM CST

    comic movies ARE DEAD

    by kuldesak

    The Batman movie franchise is in ruins. Superman is in script Limbo. SPAWN sucked...so did Blade....and after the great disaster of X-MEN the movie (thanks mostly to these TOTALLY UNCREATIVE COSTUMES...call it what you want...Borg,Lost in Space, Matrix, Dark City, Motorcycle dudes, Mad Max, Dune.....the list goes on)
    we fanboys MUST realize that a KICK-ASS superhero movie can NEVER be made.

    Forget the X-MEN...Lucas has lost his vision....Cameron is not with Terminator 3....Now it's up to the Wachowski Brothers and Sam Raimi to renew our faith.....sigh.

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  • Feb 01, 2000 4:06:30 PM CST

    On the X-Men costume fiasco

    by yoshimonster

    Ummm... I truly beleive that when people go to put a DC comic in another medium, they sit and think..."Okay, this is what the comic says, so this is what we do", for a Marvel property... "This is what the comic says, but comics are for children, lets make it like a cheesy ass sf movie from the mid 80's..."

    DC
    -Superman(TV and Movie)-Red and blue costume
    -Flash (TV series)-Red costume with fake muscles(looked quite good)
    -Batman(TV)Campy but accurate
    -Batman(Movie)-Kept the Villans true to form, and a passable Batman

    Marvel
    -The Punisher-Um... Dolph in street clothes... Not even a skull on his shirt...
    -Daredevil(Bad TV movie)-Black costume
    -X-Men... Hey look how succesful Daredevil was...
    -It is good to note that the hulk and an early spiderman movie had true costumes... But hey, I can't wait to see what the spidey costume will look like... Black with a red spider stitched on the sleeve probably...


    And for the record, Robert DeNiro is the perfect Wolverine cast (check out, Cape Fear for non-beleivers)... He even has the nose!

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  • Feb 01, 2000 5:42:48 PM CST

    X-Faggot COSTUMES

    by slow-potatoes

    The Costumes Suck. When is marvel going to let a True Fan produce a movie instead of a bunch of dorks who think they know what the public likes.

    The public likes the way the X-MEN always looked, Or atleast the Fans do. And it's the fans who will make them money.

    I Sincerly hope they don't botch this up.

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  • Feb 01, 2000 8:13:10 PM CST

    Why! Why! Why!

    by terumi

    Why does Hollywood insist on ruining all of Marvel's exceptional characters? I loved the X - Men comic and the cartoon. Why do the big studio suits feel the need to tamper with the designs of the character? Toning down Wolvie's unique hairdo is like giving Goku of Dragonball Z a buzz cut! And Sabretooth! The promotional pic doesn't look anything like the comic book character! He looks like a stringy haired biker! I hate to say this but the only good cating call was Patrick Stewart as Professor X and Sir Ian McKellan as Magneto. I quite personally think the characters should have some ort of costume design that looks like the comic like Sabretooth for instance. Yet again I have to agonize over the fact that Hollywood has yet again insufficiently researched the looks of the characters they hope to bring to the screen. If I were in charge of this movie I would listen to the fans as well as the sounds of box office receipts. I can't understand what was wrong with the looks of the characters in the comic books!

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  • Feb 02, 2000 2:48:17 PM CST

    x-evolution.

    by rilian

    seems like everyone is very much attached to their notions of x-men. nitpicking on details such as lameness of costumes or hairstyle. while some criticism may be valid, the current consenting opinion seems to be sourced from myopic fanaticism.

    bryan singer's x-men movie is merely an interpretation of x-men, an adaptation. much as the 90's version of romeo and juliet attempts to contemporalize shakespeare, the new x-men movie promises a more adult and mature perspective. gone are bright gold and blue childish costumes. replacing them are darker, more dc/vertigo-esque threads.

    it is clear that this new x-men movie is not just a trivial action movie. from the casting of shakespearean actors such as patrick stewart and sir ian mckellan, x-men will attempt to explore deeper and loaded issues than the simple evil versus good story. a movie that will only appeal the hardcore fanatic will not offer anything new and fresh to the world of superheroes and fantasy.

    if the story, if the interpretation is successful. and if x-men promises to a serious look in human nature, then the costume becomes irrelevant. what matters is going to be how bryan singer reinvents these characters in way which remain true the essence of their comic book alter-egos. creating a film adaption which is verbatim to the comic book version is both uninteresting, and involves a lack of thinking and moving forward.

    in applause of these new costumes, of this new interpretation, i urge x-men fans of old and young to examine the core and underlying elements of x-men. rather than basing criticism on superficial and somewhat irrelevant topics such as costuming, please take a look at x-men ideology, the messages, it portray. once identifying these core ideals, base your criticism on whether the new costumes are fitting with x-men principles.

    no one will know if this movie is going to be disaster until the movie finally hits. hopefully, the movie will offer more to the imagination than line by line duplicate of the comic book.

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  • Feb 03, 2000 5:32:49 AM CST

    x-men movie

    by ttl23

    When I first saw the actors that would star in the x-men movie, my first reaction was it was not going to live up to the stan lee x-men comic books. Then I search high and low to fine pictures of the stars that I did not know in the role they were going to play and I have to say that I agree with the characters of Jean Grey, Scott Summers, Logan, sabertooth, Toad (to some degree)and Charles Xavier. I do not agree with the actors they selceted to play maneto or Rouge. The actor playing maneto is to old to undertake such a diverse role of a mad in statue and physic and the actress playing Rogue is too young to give the character of Rogue, the charamsa and spunk it it deserves. I also do not agree with the young actors that are going to play Bobby Drake, or Kittie pryde. In addition, the clothing that are provided for these character does not represent Charles Xavier vision of the X-Men. In the x-men 30- something year no memeber of the x-men team as ever worn leather according to my knowledge. The clothing does not even look like a knock off of the martix, but something that just been put together in a rush just to get the movie to start filming. I am really dispointed in the person who designed this collection because it shows that they have never read a x-men comic book in their life. I am saving my opinion of the movie until July 14th because I hope the story line overcomes the bad clothing as well as the miss case actors in the end.Then and only then will my opinion change.

    A true X-Men Fan

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  • Feb 03, 2000 10:53:26 AM CST

    X-Men, X-Tinct?

    by whisper2ascream

    Hmmm.... well kudos to Harry for scoring the pics (or whoever if you were to believe some of the earlier postings, here. *shrugs*). And hmmm.... the costumes do look rather Schumacher-Batmanish in the dark sculpted pleather outfits. It's ok, I suppose, though couldn't they have tried something closer to the original ones in the comic? Yes, adjustments are needed to convert to the live-action format, but don't reject the mold entirely. At least include the X-logo on the costume! They are supposed to be a _team_ after all. Cyclops looks fairly accurate, but the optics echo shades of ST's LaForge's giant metallic hair barrette. And as for Wolverine, good match-up facially, though did they have to use such a stiff pose? Wolverine's supposed to look like one wild, kick-ass, motherfucker who thinks, "I'm gonna kill somebody, and I'm gonna ENJOY it!" Hmmm... hopefully seeing him in action will be an improvement. No comments on Toad since not that familiar with that character. Mystique's makeup job is par excellence, and Professor X is dead-on. Come on, nobody but Patrick Stewart is as much a dead ringer for Xavier. Well, here's hoping they'll work all the kinks out before the premiere later this year. And for those who say that comic books are dead cuz nobody can do them like the original comic concepts, got just two words for ya. KEVIN SMITH!

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  • Feb 03, 2000 5:40:04 PM CST

    leather

    by skarbro

    Longshot wore leather.....

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  • Feb 03, 2000 5:41:25 PM CST

    Wolverine

    by skarbro

    The should have cut off the sleeves...

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  • A more accurate version of the X-men would have been a sure succes at the boxoffice this summer,but this kind of crap wont do much for Fox Marvel or X-Men fans.

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  • Feb 04, 2000 1:10:28 PM CST

    My 2 cents

    by skarbro

    There is no way that a "more accurate" potrayal would be successful at the box-office. Just think of how stupid all that yellow and blue would look on the big screen.

    Besides, the X-Men aren't about the costumes --- they have a powerful message about anti-prejudice that is being portrayed perfectly in the movie.

    And trust me - the first time you see Wolverine's claws unsheath, you will be hooked.

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  • I would like to address some comments made by people who said that the costume issue is not important. It is people. Would you like it if they made a movie about your favorite music group, sports figure, T.V. show etc. and made them look like something you know doesn't remotely represent who they are portraying a accurately as possible? For example, would you like to see a toned down imitation of Marilyn Manson played by a preppie actor like Leo Dicaprio of the life of Tupac Shakur played by a white guy? I didn't think so. That is how we X - Men fans feel about the comic book we grew up on. To be treated to a toned down version of superhero's who literally became an incredibly profitable franchize equal to Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman etc. Would you change the colors of Superman's costume? Would they take Batman's cowel away and give him a mask like Robin's? You could not think of seeing those icon any other way. The same is true with the X - Men. You can't tone down their powers. That is what makes them superheroes. If you don't like a bright yellow or blue keep the color, jut make it darker or use a metallic gold vinyl material. That would look cool on film. There are other colors besides black. I think costumes for superheroes have been in a "black" out period. There's too much black material being used in cotume designs today. We don't need a '60's style Batman series type look. We just want faithful costume designs and a little variety of color. That' all we ever asked for concerning the X - Men. I hope that you all undertand a little bit of the Fan Boy and Fan Girl mentality. I welcome any replies. Thank you.

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  • Feb 05, 2000 7:37:58 AM CST

    The vision of Alex Ross

    by kuldesak

    I agree with Terumi there...All we Fan Boys (and Girls) want is "SOME FAITHFUL COSTUME DESIGNS (doesn't have to be 100% dead on accurate) AND A LITTLE VARIETY OF COLOR". Well said, considering the MILLIONS of dollars they have at their expense.MILLIONS.
    BTW, I think this will be a great movie nonetheless...it just won't be a great super-hero movie..s'all.
    Here's a thought....if Alex Ross could pull off those larger than life images of them superheroes...could a really talented director and cinematographer pull off the same thing in film ?...hmmmm.

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  • Feb 05, 2000 6:34:27 PM CST

    The new costumes

    by scudd

    Okay, I hear all of the fanboy's crying into their blankies at night because the X-men costumes arent true to form. I have been reading X-men for 12 years, and frankly, I like the costumes. Superman's costume worked because it was very simple, and Superman was simply more of a well-known character. The X-men costumes are not quite as simple, and Marvel needed to make something that would be accessible not only to comic book fans, but to *everyone*. Yes, maybe the Matrix look is a little trendy, but it will help attact crowds unfamiliar with the X-men and possible open the door to even more comic booc-based movies. So stop your whining and just accept it. From what ive seen, I think they are doing a great job.

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  • Feb 05, 2000 11:13:29 PM CST

    Why the fuck can't they ever remake a good show or movie, like "

    by dangerboy_us

    Why the fuck can't they ever remake a good show or movie, like "BJ and the Bear"! Now That's a concept I can't get enough of, a man and his monkey. Seriously, they'd better not fag-up Spiderman. If Spidey looks like a dominatrix, I'll shoot someone. Stan Lee wouldn't know good taste is it beat him, raped him, hog tied him and left him for dead in a tool shed. (Insert your own rubber nipple joke here).

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  • Weird thing, I woke up this morning took a crap (nice and big) and when I looked down, to my surprise I realized that if they smeared my excrimant all over the characters in the X-Men movie it would look better than the constumes they have now. What, do thecostume designers have no balls? They suck big time

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  • All right thats about enough. Im tired of people saying that the x-mens costumes suck, because frankly I think they're far better than any stupid tight spandex blue and yellow costumes that the ridiculous fan boys want, and let me tell you why. First of all like any military unit or group the people who populate that collective usually have costumes that are similar. Take for instance the navy, the black panthers, NWO, hell even the KKK had matching attire. Most of you bastards probably wouldn't know fashion sense if it bit you in the hiney anyway, so why do you think you have any better ideas for what the costumes should look like. I can see you all now wearing your spidey t-shirts playing Dungeons and dragons with your buddies that don't shower and quizing each other on who knows more about the x-men than the other. I love the x-men and have read there comics for years costumes have come and gone and what great costumes they were, but you people don't get the point that they were thought up in an illustrated world. Let me point out how ridiculous illustrated fantasies coverted to a real world media can be. Street fighter the movie with Jean Claude Van Dame proves my point because they stayed pretty faithful to the videogame franchise as far as costumes went and look at how stupid the characters looked. Even if they had a good script the movie still would have been cheesy due to those gawdy costumes. Imagine Jean Grey flying around in a bathing suit now think what the point would be in wearing a bathing suit while your trying to stop bad guys. Is it because she wants to flash some skin to catch them off guard? I don't think so.

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  • Feb 06, 2000 7:52:49 PM CST

    This One's For You Scudd and Mr. Marbles!

    by terumi

    You seriouly don't understand a word I said! I hate spandex! My first rule of costume design is not to use that God awful material! I prefer molded rubber like the Batman costumes or embroidered vinyl. A perfect stitch with foam padding can lend a look of a muscular physique. I believe the X - Men movie cut some corners when they made those costumes. Spandex is for Power Rangers! I hate that show by the way! the X - Men are no Power Rangers! I'm offended that you would suggest spandex Mr. Marbles!

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  • Feb 06, 2000 7:56:29 PM CST

    OH GOD THESE COSTUMES ......I FEEL ILL

    by neo101

    cant say i hate these costumes..i actually liked them the first time i saw them in DUNE and the second time in the MATRIX....but i dont think three times is a charm here....someone call PETA and put a stop to all this senseless misuse of leather.....seriously though the costumes dont have to be 100% reproductions of the comic book, i dont think we need spandex, ripped muscles and bright yellow stripes but please is an X EMBLEM too much to ask for.....i cant understand these idiots who think costumes arent important to a movie like this .... the main reason a movie like this gets made is cause there is such a large fan base, and 90% of the fans want the costumes to reflect the comic roots ...these dont even come close from what ive seen ....to make a good comic book movie you have to start with STRIKING VISUALS and these strike out .... i dont think the movie will suck because of it but i dont think itll be the movie many of us had hoped for the minute we heard PATRICK STEWART would play PROFESSOR X

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  • Feb 07, 2000 2:44:19 AM CST

    I've been waiting 16 years for THIS?!?!

    by mike desert

    Yep, since I was in 6th grade the fine editors of X-Men have been saying a feature length movie has been in the works...
    So, what, this is going to be like the "Punisher" movie, and have little to do with the comic??
    And the casting....jeezus!
    Henry rollins woulda made a better Wolverine than that twerp!
    And yes...the costumes...dear lord, WHY?!?!?!?
    The X-Men shoulda been made in Hong Kong, THEY coulda gotten in right!

    Mike Desert

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  • Feb 07, 2000 9:12:22 AM CST

    All you people still living in 2D

    by skarbro

    I am just as much an X-men fan as any of you. I own most of the entire comic book collection. But some of you just cant see beyond the scope of the ink on the paper. All of you who are slamming the new costumes before you even had a chance to see them in a trailer are still living in the 2-dimensional world of the comic book and cartoon. When you transfer a comic book character to real life, how the hell can you put tights with underwear over their clothing on them? Let's assume that the script will be a good one. 10 years from now, which version would be a classic - the one where they are runnig around in their comic-book yellow and blue cartoon tights, or the one where they are wearing more realistic costumes? -----------Oh, and by the way, for all you whiners who want the X logo on the costumes, take a good look at the collars and gloves......

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  • Feb 08, 2000 2:29:23 AM CST

    Just wait til the trailer before we jump to conclusions

    by deadpool_bokki

    We've all seen the pictures, but has anyone seen a trailer yet? Nope. You havn't, have you? I can't foretell what the movie will be like any more than you will. When Lucasfilm had some of the first shots of the tanks and settings for Episode 1, there was no way I could picture or imagine what the end product would be. As far as "unknown" actors go, is there an actor out there that was instantly recognized, from birth? I don't think so! I'm not saying this movie will bomb or be a blockbuster, but did anyone believe Christopher Reeves would be a great Superman? Or how about all the skepticism about Michael Keaton's portrayal of Batman? (which turned out to be awesome) not to mention Jack Nickolson as the Joker. Meanwhile, such "Big Name" stars like Schwarzenegger and Clooney didn't bring anything to the characters. Heck, I love Episode 1, but Liam Neeson's acting was a little dry. The ferocity in Ray Parks' face was better "acting" than most of Qui-Gonn's lines. Back to the X-Men movie, there is no way we can judge it, so we might as well hope for the best, because not everyone is going to love the costumes or the people in them, but it's still the X-men!!! If anyone thinks for a second that the man behind "Usual Suspects" would foul this up, then go ahead, wait in anguish until the movie comes out. It's just a movie, and it's not something that will define or re-write 30+ years of a good comic book. And by the way, if you've read Ian McKlellan's website, Magneto will have several different "costumes" so what makes you think the X-men will be wearing that one same costume for the WHOLE movie, eh? I think we're all in for a surprise, along the way :-) That black costume could be just a training costume for all we know. Besides, Wolvie always gets his costume shredded.
    I agree with most of the thoughts about the Toad's pose, but I'm sure ALOT of post production CGI work will be done to add special effects. The standards are much higher due to the recent movies like Matrix and Ep:1 and I doubt Singer will settle for a less-than-frantic pace of combat and action. So, anyways, I guess we'll just have to see won't we? Till then...

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  • Feb 08, 2000 11:09:34 PM CST

    Why did they have to fuck up the X-men?!

    by armos

    Ok, first off, basically all the costumes suck. Prof X looks cool...that's one factor I'm lookin' forward to. About Cyclops...we are into the 21-fucking-century with all this fuckin technology; DVD, Eyelasers, VR games, and all the other high tech stuff, that is the best visor that they could come up with?! I mean, c'mon... it looks like sunglasses fused together with a headphone. Wolverine...personally, I woulda liked Dougray Scott better...I never heard of him, but he would have made a wicked Wolverine...but that doesn't matter. This guy is THE X-man, and that is the best costume they came up with...shit; the toughest guy and he comes out with that shit. Give him a manacure and he'll look like the best he-bitch. Toad; I don't even wanna go there. Mystique...I gotta admit, that is a good costume, probably the best one in the whole movie. Sabretooth looks about as scarey as a care bear. This guy is tougher than wolverine and he's got hair like a girl....newsflash; Sabretooth has shorter hair than that. I would have personally liked it if they just wore the costumes they wear in the comics...it's probably the best thing to do. Or, since it's the first movie, why not make the original X-men costumes. I'm still anxious to see the movie, but the comments I made could REALLY help making it a better hit. IT'S THE X-MEN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

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  • Feb 09, 2000 12:00:25 AM CST

    costume complaints

    by skeezix

    Jeez, I've heard more whining at the costumes for the X-Men than I can stand. The only way to know is to see the movie! Jeez, I'm as much a fanboy as the next guy, but give Singer a chance. When Hugh cuts loose with Wolverine in berserker mode, THAT'S when we'll know if it'll work. Until then, SHUT UP! I wanna hear whining, I'll got to a little league baseball game and sit next to a bunch of parents.
    That, and we all know Patrick Stewart is going to ROCK as Prof. X! (Who else can you think of to pull it off?)

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  • Feb 09, 2000 1:38:12 AM CST

    It's still gonna be the movie of the year.

    by grandmasterb

    I actually think the costumes are OK. Would you honestly prefer exact copies of the comic book costumes? Take a look at the Superman movies or the old Adam West Batman series and tell me how anyone could possibly take an adamantium-claws-berserker-ballerina seriously.

    I think Cyclops and Sabretooth both look pretty damn cool, Patrick Steward IS Professor X, and the women, oh, don't even get me started on the women. I bet once the optic blasts and lightning start flying and the claws start slicing we'll all be cheering.

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  • Feb 09, 2000 12:28:43 PM CST

    i think the person playing wolverine fits the bill

    by massboy

    everyone here is complaining that
    they don't think Hugh Jackman fits the bill for wolverine...but your not look at the fact that wolverine over the last decade has had some major changes done to him to make him more "mainstream" ... i don't know if any of you are even wolverine fans but if you can remember the original four book series in which he man his first orginal solo apperence...he didn't look like a muscled bowned freek who couldn't scrach his back is he tried... the orginal premise was that wolverine was a sleek muscular killing machine...not a big lubering brute he has become as of late...

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  • Feb 09, 2000 12:40:50 PM CST

    XMEN

    by ltval5

    What the hell is this? What's up with the costumes? Haven't these people ever read the comics or seen the show? This is a disgrace. This movie is totally going to blow. I can see it now.. no plot and a bunch of special effects. I've waited forever to see this movie... and it's going to suck. Greeeeeaaaaaat....
    And what about Psyloche? Tia Carierre would have been pperfect for Psyloche. Jack Nicholson as Wolverine.. but I guess he's a little too old for this shit huh? And where's Gambit? He's a main character right? And Sabertooth... what the hell is that? He looks like a regular guy who hasn't brushed his hair for the day. Xavier and Mystique are the only people who actually look cool. Cyclops needs work. We aren't th UNCANNY X-MEN anymore here people! I want to see Rogue and Jean Grey... maybe they look decent. What the hell is this crap anyway?

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  • Feb 09, 2000 6:48:18 PM CST

    Congratulations FANBOYS ! A RE-WRITE !!!

    by kuldesak

    Man ! I'm so sick of all the people who keeps on saying "listen up fanboys ? Stop your whinin' fanboys ! Get a life fanboys !Aren't you glad that the X-men doesn't wear yellow balerina outfits with underwear and walk like Adam West ?"
    THAT IS NOT THE POINT !!!!!!!!!
    Maybe we fanboys should try to give this explanation in a language more acceptable to 'mainstream audiances who loves X-Men 'just as much'...(pleeeze). okay here goes :
    1. The movie will NOT suck.
    2. The movie will not be a super-hero movie.(and don't get technical and say they're mutants. I know !!!) It won't have that grandeur feeling that we felt when we saw costumed beings fight each other while 'normal people looked in awe as they saw these Gods in battle in 'Superman 2'. Comic book pages actually comes to life on that one ! What a treat for us 'fanboys'.
    3. The costume designers are VERY WELL PAID... so come up with a design no one would have thought of. Blow our minds off for chissakes! I'm so sure at least nobody sez "WOW, COOL COSTUMES !" the fisrt time they saw the pictures. Even an optimist would look at them several times before saying..."I've seen these before but ...these could actually work."Aunt Petunia can come up with something more creative than the shit they're wearing.

    but...wait ! What's this premonition that I feel ? A RE-WRITE ? Didja guys know that Singer has been visiting this site on a healthy basis and is thinking a re-write for the ending scene ? This is my scenario : The X-Men using 'enhanced costumes and body armor' to stop it from tearing when they are in battle ( an acceptable situation for 'mainstream audiences'). What does it look like u say ? Take a wild imaginative guess......

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  • Don't get me wrong, I like Sabertooth but, Sabertooth looks like a bum in this movie! It's like Magneto picked him up off the streets and said "Oh You A Hungry Mutant Aren't You? Come Work For Me! Oh, You Know Wolverine And You Don't Like Him? Even Better! Come With Me And I'll Feed You!"! I can see why The X-Men costumes were changed to look better on film but Sabertooth, He looks horrible! Give the man an outfit similar to the damn comic book!

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  • Feb 10, 2000 12:12:16 AM CST

    C'mon people, think a little!

    by superbeast

    Don't you people realize that they literally cannot have the comic book costumes. This film not only has to appeal to comic fans, but it has to appeal to the general public. The original costumes look great in the comic, but think about it. Live action, Wolverine, those big-ass ears sticking out on that yellow and blue costume, plleeeaaasse. Besides, how can you be picky, after 8 years in argued development, it is finally here, you should not be bitching at all.
    You don't like it, don't see it, but while your all at home beating off in your aimless lives, me and the people who support this film, will be enjoying ONE HELL OF A SHOW!

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  • Feb 10, 2000 4:43:47 PM CST

    >>>>>>About it all<<<<<<<<

    by bejota

    Ok. One thing that has only been brought up by a couple of people that I think is paramount to making this movie great is the ability of these actors to CONVINCE US TOTALLY that they are who they are portraying -- how well they can act. This movie will be awesome b/c the cast will do such a good job of convincing us they are who they say they are:

    *Stewart and McKellan are renowned actors -- there is no doubt to their abilities.

    *Hugh Jackman is a famous professional THEATRE actor .

    *The actress playing Rogue (I can't remember her name) won an Academy Award for Pete's sake!

    *Halle Berry (spelled right?) is a seasoned actress herself so is Jean's actress.

    *We saw how well Ray Park convinced us he was a bad ass in Ep1.

    The only weak links are
    1) Tyler Mane
    and MAYBE
    2) the Cyclops actor

    I can tell you they will do such a good job convicing us they are the X-men it won't matter WHAT they wear! All I need to hear is any of the characters say ONE cool line that they would say in the comics and goosebumps will appear!!!
    Theatre actors have to intensify their performances b/c they have to be heard in the audience and they need to maintain audience interest. Besides, theatre is generally more dramatic. Worvewine is ALL about being dramatic. I have total confidence in Jackman to impress me with his attention to detail and even to scare me a bit when Wolverine gets mad. I am a huge fan boy since early 80's and I have no issues w/ the costumes. For the real X-men fans out there it won't matter, all we want to see is what makes Wolverine on the screen... his badass ways, his don't take no shit from anyone attitude, his temper... these things are what Wolverine IS
    the costume doesn't matter. Wolverine fought in all sorts of threads. WHY? BECAUSE Wolverine can change his clothes everyday in the comic books, but he can't change his attitude, or his temper, etc. The costume doesn't make Wolverine... WOLVERINE MAKES WOLVERINE!!!! THIS APPLIES TO ALL THE OTHERS AS WELL. I have total confidence in Hugh Jackman and the rest of the cast to show me WOLVERINE, and STORM, ROGUE... etc.

    By the way, Throughout the years artists who have drawn X-men have taken some artistic liberties--they have drawn them differently. We didn't lose our commitment to the X-men when they changed looks and costumes in the comics... so why can't we follow them with those changes into the medium of film?

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  • Feb 10, 2000 5:30:09 PM CST

    Costumes in particular

    by bejota

    My opinion of the costumes... I can't imagine anything ELSE was possible. A point that is very important to all of this -- there are about 20 people in this world that have the PHYSIQUE that the X-men have now, and none of them are actors! Arnold, maybe... MAYBE... He is the only one that can make the tights work. But honestly, I think if I saw Arnold (pretend he's Warpath or something) running arounf in tights, fighting, or even just standing there in thights, I would not take any of whats happening in the movie seriously!!
    It's funny to think of that now! And no, it wouldn't work if we cast all the buff actors from Hollywood in this... we all know that. If acting wasn't an issue to a MOVIE we could go to bodybuilding competitions and pick them from there. Now everyone is thinking Superman, what about Superman? Well, when that movie came out the comic book Superman wasn't as huge and as cut as he is now. Granted he was somewhat built but not like the Jim Lee 0% body fat and perfect shape bodies with painted on tights. ( 2nd ) He was also ONE GUY. You can get away with one guy having the akward comic costume, but an entire team like the X-men with their different bright colors competing for attention on camera is just an elementary mistake in film composition. And YES YELLOW LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE GARBAGE ON FILM... IT'S A TRADE FACT -- YOU DON'T DO IT, NOT ON THAT LARGE A SCALE. **** Someone had said that the sleeves should have been cut off on Wolvie -- I disagree, no human on earth (and I doubt Hugh Jackman) has arms as big as the present day Wolverine... I don't think it would have worked.
    >>>>>>>>>>The bad parts of these costumes<<<<<<<<< They are good but they could use an X somewhere, I think this could have been made to look good even in black-- it would have helped reduce the blandness of the costumes. Magneto's new helmet design looks stupid. McKellan has a very long narrow face, having his mask curve in only excentuates that... it should have been replicated in shape as it is in the comics. Toad is fine b/c they'll put stuff on him digitally (no worries here), Sabretooth could generally use work, but it is one picture, God knows if we can't really see it now, Mystique --- WOW WHAT A GREAT JOB -- IF THERE IS NO OTHER SUCCESS IN THIS MOVIE THE COMPLETE REPLICATION OF MYSTIQUE FROM THE COMICS TO REAL LIFE IS IT!!! As much as I enjoy here seemingly naked body, the sharp white gown against the dark blue has always been attractive -- I hope it's in the movie!!! ----------------------------------Thankx for listening to what I had to say!

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  • Feb 10, 2000 6:38:09 PM CST

    x-men

    by purplebaby

    really looking forward to the film ,but i think wolverine is too young looking.lets hope they don't mess it up!

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  • Feb 12, 2000 10:25:09 PM CST

    Bah, nobody got the thing right

    by jokka das trevas

    MAN! What are you arguing about? The whole point is: OK, so the moviemaker-pussies didn't wanted to use the original clothing. Yup, that's fine.

    But WHAT they did, then? Did they tried to do something both COOL and ORIGINAL, and that resembled about WHAT is the movie about? NO! THEY DIDN'T! They simply invented anything else so they could stop worrying about it. And then, they jammed the actors in it! Here we are: outdated costumes that have nothing to do with the movie type and heroes, and that NOT pleased most of the comics fans.

    Do you think Wolvie would look ridiculous in the original costume? I maybe gotta consider this, but I'm SURE that crappyer than these worn-out jackets it would be for sure...

    In a jiffy, my opinnion about the costumes is: if they didn't wanted to use the originals, they could DESIGN some COOL ones instead of fucking all around. Like one said in this topic: "If they want to do a Dark Movie, take a Dark Comic!" My oppinion? The 3 worst costumes of the movie are, in order: Wolvie(crappy! :(), Cyclops(he looks wussy), and Sabretooth(the fur clothing in his neck is REALLY missing). Mystique is an over-makeup'ing case...What I saw about the basic plot sounds "WOW, THATS COOL", but they can ruin a good half of the fun just by these poor-created costumes...

    (By the way... The Jackman thingie does a good Wolvie, but I really saw Wolverine in Jack Nicholson's "The Wolf" movie. Man, that WAS Logan's face!)

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  • Feb 12, 2000 10:41:23 PM CST

    Oh, I forgot something

    by jokka das trevas

    Magneto's actor is right, his elm is right.... but the shot taken from him looks like a LOLO's old gag. Man, do they think THAT looks menancing? I'd better show my grandma to them :P ehehehehe

    It's about his costume: it has only clothes. Magneto, to his menacing aspect, he had SHOULDER SUPPORTS to look royalish-like. His pose is always both PROUD and POWERFUL. I hope they'll remember this in the movie :P
    And yeah, I'll tell to all of you who thinks some beefy-head wrestler should be wolvie... Because he is one of the main characters of the movie, you morons - he has to do some DECENT acting, you know? Not just some wack-slash-pow things, but act. Mainly the "perturbated" Wolvie is a too deep character for a wrestler to represent...

    "X-maniac, don't get caught! Just SAY NO to S&M costumes!" HAUHAUHAU :P

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  • Feb 13, 2000 10:15:58 PM CST

    the x-men movie is going to suck

    by kmattny

    y is it going to suck??? cuz they all look like fags in their black leather suits. and mistique looks like spawn. This movie is going to bomb like Godzilla

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  • Feb 13, 2000 10:20:12 PM CST

    this is garbage

    by kmattny

    y does sabertooth look like a bum??? Y is sabertooth in a trench coat???? wheres his costume. this is going to suck. i cant believe they would do this to teh x-men.. i wonder how they're gonna fuck up spiderman

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  • Feb 15, 2000 6:25:40 PM CST

    Are you a moron?

    by big_rig

    How can you defend such a horrible masacre of what could and should have been a stellar movie. Aside from Prof X, the characters look like garbage, I don't understand why instead of cloth suits all comic dudes have to have fake rubber suits, Batman was a good movie but his suit was a little weird, especially in Batman IV when they felt the need to screw with it. Why can't they get a director who transfers a comic to the movies, not add his own shitty artistic spin. I mean Punisher sucked ass, it made no sense, and the costumes blew. How can you say change the costumes, the costumes ARE the X-Men, I want to see a short, built Wolverine in a yellow suit kicking ass, not some skinny piece of crap who doesn't look like he could take a midget let alone a fucking supervillan, and why the hell aren't Cyclops' goggles bigger? he looks like that shitty dude from Star Trek. And why is Sabretooth so skinny?? In the comics he's a fucking giant, why couldn't they get someone with some more meat on his bones??

    My main beef is constumes, X-Men has been running for more then 35 years and so far they haven't screwed with the costumes too much, and then they make a movie and screw it up. Not only is this a piece of garbage, but it will prevent anyone from ever making a good X-Men movie, I hope the studios are happy, they have created an abomination

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  • Feb 17, 2000 8:25:08 AM CST

    the Entertainment Tonight Trailer!!!!!!!!!

    by skarbro

    Did you guys see the trailer on ET last night??? It was AWESOME!!! To all you nay-sayers who keep slamming the costumes - the trailer should shut you up! The spot on ET was like 20 to 30 seconds long. The special effects are nothing short of what we all expect from a modern day action flick. Wolverine doing a backflip on the Statue of Liberty.... Oh I'm STOKED!!!

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  • Feb 18, 2000 4:20:07 AM CST

    what the hell is this shit

    by pepper78

    i'm new here and i'd thought i'd add my opinion on the costumes!! cyclops/wolverine look like they stole their costumes off the set of lost in space!!!!!!!stewert/stamos look pretty good but all the rest look completly stupid!! how much did this movie cost to make again?? i agree with the person who said this looks like the he-man movie!! sabertooth looks like he blongs on the beauty and the beast t.v. show (he looks as mean as the lion on the old t.v. show zooblie zoo!!)toad will probally look better than the picture but i don't think it can get any worse than wolverine or cyclops..or can it?? i also agree that henry rollins would have made a good wolverine (he can act too!!)he should've gotten this movie instead of his last role in jack frost (i thought rollins was cool-what the hell happened)like alot of comic/t.v. shows that were made into movies this looks like it will be a hit in the begining but end up being a total bomb!!

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  • Feb 18, 2000 8:24:57 AM CST

    Stupid Dinks!!!

    by revenant

    Hey,I'm a comic fan and i grew up with the X-men since Chris Claremont was writing the book.I have to admit,i'm looking forward to the movie!But the shit i've been hearing from you negative dipwads is it should be "oh so exact to the comic"..grow up!Yellow costumed,underwearing guys or gals running around.Uh-huh.I think what they're trying to go for here is reality?Oh,i have an idea..why don't you guys dress up in your yellow PJs and blue underwear and lets see how well you look.Probably as one of you said,"godawfull!!!"
    If you're a real fan of the X-men comic,you'll remember that its not about bloody superpowered mutants or the costumes,its about
    prejudice and fighting against it and its likes.

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  • Feb 19, 2000 8:21:02 AM CST

    go hugh baby

    by zerlina

    Man this is gonna be perfect. Unknown aussie boy in the role of the most kick ass hero in the universe without question. There are understandably plenty of doubters, but please have faith in this guy. It is so obvious that he understands how important this character is to so many people. He aint gonna let nobody down. And besides who the hell would you guys have picked. some overpaid superstar who would have wanked his way through the whole fucking movie.

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  • Feb 21, 2000 12:53:03 AM CST

    Gambit!?!?!?!?!

    by ladydeth75

    All I wanna know is where the hell is Gambit? Sure, now all the guys have eye candy with Jean Grey, Mystique, and Rogue.. but what about us women? Gambit is the sole sensuality of the X-"MEN". It makes no sense to me how they could overlook the Best one of the bunch!?!? Although, in a way I am relieved too that they didn't add him to the film, since after seeing some of the cast and how they don't even look like the characters.. I doubt they would ever be able to find someone as fine as Gambit who could also talk Cajun!!!

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  • Feb 21, 2000 4:30:30 PM CST

    holy horse poop

    by scrapx

    I cannot believe the complete abortion of good taste on the part of the production group responsible for the crap that will be known as "the x-men movie". After seeing the characters in the costumes I could only be painted the picture of a set of shots cut from the matrix. What's with all this black leather? I'm not completely surprised by it all. They screwed up Batman, they screwed up Spawn, and boy did they ever screw up Judge Dredd. Sly Stallone is "the law" my ass. He made a great rocky, but he doesn't belong in the role of the great Dredd. In closing I have one simply piece of gibberish to sum this all up.... "BAH!" ... and I concur with LadyDeth (minus the finding Gambit sexy part)... dammit where is Gambit?

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  • Feb 22, 2000 9:59:05 PM CST

    If we see deep blue tang, it won't be a total wash

    by manback

    It certainly is looking like they completely mother-fuckered this one up. Comic books turned movies have a sorry-ass track record, largely due to the fact that.... they're comic books, silly. The writing is never very good to begin with. It's like having a retard design cars for Mercedes... regardless of how well they can make cars, if they're inspired by a piece of shit, the finished product won't be too hot. Don't argue with this one, you'll just come off looking like a moped. I used to read comics non-stop, but seriously, they are the quintessence of a guilty pleasure, just a little less embarassing to admit than an internet porn addiction. I'm counting on some serious pussy-licking on Mystique's snatch, maybe then she'll morph into Clare Danes and bust medieval on someone's ass, but not before she sucks some mutant snake. If we at least get to see some deep blue tie-dyed tit skin, maybe this won't be a total wash. And send Patrick Stewart back to debtor's prison, I'm sick of all this obequient shit praising him. He's a great OVERactor.. and what's up with Ian McKellan, for Christ's sake?? Jesus, what a shame. Well, at least Ray Park will give us a laugh

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  • Feb 29, 2000 8:00:53 PM CST

    Character controversy

    by lexisb

    I am definitely looking forward to the movie (as I have for the past 5 years).
    I also dig the up-to-par costumes the characters are wearing.
    What I don't understand and completely disagree to is the heros/heroines they chose to have in the movie!!!!! I don't understand why they would waste precious money on special effects with mutants that aren't as important (especially Jubilee!!!!)
    I am dreading the fact that the first pick of mutants were not the ORIGINALS!!!! It would be more appropriate--especially to those who are new to the comics! I will mourn for the loss of screen time for Beast, Angel, and Iceman!!!
    And since they are adding new characters,that's where Storm, Rogue, Wolverine and the familiar others can fall in!...instead of making up stupid no-name mutants, like Bobby and John out of the blue! That's just wrong.

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  • Mar 06, 2000 6:21:52 AM CST

    All I Have Got To Say Is...

    by psycho fox

    Well, Well, Well I can't believe me freakin eyes! So many bashers, so many believers in a movie that has yet to be seen! Ok this is what I think (not that anyone cares) Generation-X Ruled! X-cellent special FX and it was MADE-FOR-TV. The X-Men movie is just that MADE-FOR-THE-BIG-SCREEN X-spect good fight scenes, X-spect some "Comic-Like" Speech and scenes, and most of all X-spect to feel like a "Kid" reading the ol' comic again. I agree on that comment made about the costumes, Who the HELL would wanna see wolvie jump up out of nowhere, in a BRIGHT YELLOW spandex suit and say, "It's just you and me bub, Lets do this." Like that would actually scare anyone or anything? Geeez, a black leather padded suit looks better and if memory serves me correctly (which it always does) ol' Wolvie had a Black Leather Suit in the comics at one time. I saw the action figure which proves it. :-P Now for the rest of the bashings I've sat here and read for the past 4 hours... (yeah I was bored lol) Point being the Trailer that wasn't even a minute long RULES got it? With all my crap said... OFF TO THE MOVIES.

    SINcerely

    Psycho Fox

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  • Mar 07, 2000 4:46:55 PM CST

    Its a flop!

    by rza

    Im sorry i was a comic fan stopped reading years ago and i was kinda excited about the movie but as soon as i was the trailer and saw those costumes and saw the actors i knew its was gonna be a flop! &*^*% cant these comic dumbasses ever get it right they end up screwin the movie up bad like spawn looked awesome but the plot was what i wipe my !@@# with! if they wanted a movie why didnt htey find out what makes the x-men popular i mean they would have found that they are indivisuals with different personalities and stuff he only reason x-men was a flop comic when it came out was because they all had the same yellow costumes in the beginning and they were not portrayed as indivisuals but as soon as marvel got a new writer on x-men he changed the costumes putin new characters and built up their own personalities and stuff now if you go on and mak'em all wear the same black coloured leather lookin tight sh%& your gonna make the mistake the creators of x-men did and plus wolverine looks like me with a bad hair day! damn it his hair are pointy and up not just small point sh:"" he look hes got a cats small a:" ears! ohh yeah even the people at marvel saw the movie and they were shocked they know its gonna be a flop and so thy're kinda let down. man i suggest all real x-men fans stay home and just rent the movie when it comes out on tape cuz its gonna be a waste of time!

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  • Mar 09, 2000 5:12:31 PM CST

    What was that crap?

    by jokka das trevas

    Ok, I've seen the trailer already... everything looks okay(sure that, if something is sucking they won't put it in the trailer :P), but I hope that they didn't made all the fights as false as in the part that Wolvie grabs a collumn to avoid a fall and turns back... that scene came to the ridiculous...

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  • Mar 12, 2000 5:22:23 PM CST

    Please let it be OK!

    by vireyda

    I'm afraid I'm going to be in for a disappointment. I've been waiting to see Wolverine in action since 1992! Hugh doesn't look at bit like Wolverine (too young and too skinny). Oh well, I'm still going to see it in the theater.

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  • Mar 15, 2000 7:03:01 PM CST

    Whats with the costumes????

    by rafeeki77

    Where is it written that a director can not be creative and let heroes have colorful costumes like the X-men we know and love should have? Even Magneto looks like a mine! I only hope that the special effects of this movie will make up for a apparent lack of vision. Anyone who has even heard of the X-men knows how they are a bunch of kick-ass mothas, so why can't they just stick to the X-men's original concept? One word, sellout. We all know that the bigriggs at the studios are wanting to have another superhero smash like Batman & Robin, so they just copy all thay can, including lame costume designs. If anyone can get an E-mail to 20th Century Fox, tell them to try a new gimmick, and that they better hope that their special effects are the best since the Matrix!!!!!!!!

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  • Mar 15, 2000 7:10:34 PM CST

    WHY!!!!!WHY!!!!!!

    by rafeeki77

    Okay, maybe we should let the director and designers of the X-men movie make the movie the way they want to, but why? BE CREATIVE!!!!! You don't have to go with yellow and blue but plain black and a little gold for all characters is just lame!!!!!

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  • Mar 15, 2000 11:37:06 PM CST

    WeaponX

    by inque

    Wolverines costume in
    this movie bites, in
    the movie he looks
    like he has the weapon
    X costume. Christ, if
    your calling it the
    x-men you need to have
    the current costume no
    matter how bad it
    might look. with this
    costume it makes logan
    look like a pussy,
    same with sabertooth,
    if they make a sequal
    to this movie, get
    biger actors or better
    costumes

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  • Mar 19, 2000 4:52:45 PM CST

    quit your bitching

    by ponch

    Everyone is bitching about the movie, but the simple fact is you will all go and see it, Fox will make a mint, you will all leave the theatre complaining more than before you went in, and then you will all come back to this page and write bad reviews of it. I've seen the trailer, I've seen the pics and I've read your comments. I don't think the movie looks all bad, if it captures the spirit of what the underlying message in the comic is (racism, intolerance, etc.) it will still be a good story, the special effects should be great and only one character was really miscast (Wolverine is a 5'2" harry pissed-off cigar-smoking, beer-drinking ultimate warrior from Canada who is built like a brick out-house/ Hugh Jackman is a 6' Australian guy with no muscle)besides this obvious and stupid mistake, for $75 million the action alone should make it worth sitting through.

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  • Mar 20, 2000 4:23:10 PM CST

    Shut Up

    by demios

    Everyone in here...quit yer bitchin...and why the hell isn't Beast in the movie

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  • Mar 21, 2000 8:18:54 AM CST

    Right to bitch

    by glamfiend

    The only way were going to Know if this will be a good movie is to go see it. And the only way we will enjoy it is to go see it as if we've never even heard of the X-men. (I mean the X-men aren't the X-men with out a Beast or a Nightcrawler right? But we wouldn't know that if we had never read it.) I understand why every one is getting pissy, and it's their right. I just think that if we go into it not wanting to like it,we won't. I will however add my own bitch: I WANT A NIGHTCRAWLER In the movie!

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  • Mar 28, 2000 12:09:06 AM CST

    About this Costume Crap...

    by lexisb

    Would you rather see good actors in bad costumes or bad actors in good costumes?????? SO STOP YOUR BITCHIN OR AT LEAST WAIT TO BITCH AFTER YOU SEE THE MOVIE!

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  • Apr 15, 2000 5:03:45 PM CDT

    hu the hell is toad

    by hilman87108

  • Apr 15, 2000 5:03:46 PM CDT

    hu the hell is toad

    by hilman87108

  • Apr 15, 2000 5:03:48 PM CDT

    hu the hell is toad

    by hilman87108

  • Apr 15, 2000 5:03:49 PM CDT

    hu the hell is toad

    by hilman87108

  • Jul 13, 2000 11:49:05 PM CDT

    Of course they're not the comic costumes. Think....really think

    by sanity clause

  • Aug 03, 2000 10:19:06 PM CDT

    costumes

    by bose

    I think the costumes look great,I have been a marvel - x men fan for some time and i think they did an excellent job on them.I think people need to get back to reality a little,i think they made the costumes and actors as close as they could to the comics,some people just have high standards thats all,but great work,the movie was excellent and hopefully the sequels will be just as fantastic as the first,keep up the good work guys

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  • Aug 03, 2000 10:42:42 PM CDT

    sequels

    by bose

    I no im gettin in to this topic early but there r some things i would like to suggest to makeing good sequels.Im sure u guys no what ur doing and u don't wanna hear it, but i wanna tell u guys a some stuff from a fans perspective.When making the sequels if u have any characters continuing to the next movie,hopefully u can get the same actors to play the roles,i think it is very bad when u have a new actor taking the role of a once played character,in movies such as bond and batman,Im not tryin to start nuthin but i think it suxs when u have a new actor playing a character who was already played by someone,and u should start ur sequel from where the other movie left off,like does sabretooth and toad live and leave the water in revenge? does magneto retrieve their bodies and bring them back to life? or u can just get right back into the movie of how mystique makes it possible for magneto to escape and he finds/creates more mutants to get revenge on the x men,ok enough of that stuff,for the upcoming sequels new characters,I think for the x men-nightcrawler,beast,gambit,jubilee,and possibly morph wolverines friend who can change in people like mystique but differently, cause he would put a good twist in the movie,and for bad guys,maybe characters such as suaron -the flying terradactil guy,(excuse the spelling)cyber- a brutish character who even wolverine fears for his strength and insanity,omega red,mr.sinister,and maybe shiva,well these r just some ideas i thought i would share with u guys,if u go by any of them make sure u go by sticking with the same actors for characters already played and i think u guys will be just fine,and it would be kinda kool if u used some of those mutants i listed,well ill say it again i luved the x men movie,and i pray the sequels will be just as good,keep up the good work

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  • Aug 03, 2000 10:53:37 PM CDT

    compliment

    by bose

    I would just like to compliment the producer in his taste of actors and actresses,he picked beautiful good looking actresses who played their roles very well and fit the character profiles nicely,and the actors were good at portraying their roles as well,i thought they all did good,i am also a fan of Ray Park,which i also liked to see him in the movie,the producer selected all good actors which gave him a great edge on the movie,i can't wait to see what new actors will be in the upcoming sequel,i hope the producer sticks with good actors for the roles,the last ones to me were a success,and yes i would like to say I am a movie fanatic,well i'll give it all a rest for now,lol,later

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  • Sep 06, 2000 9:47:34 AM CDT

    Too much critics

    by jtrthehobbit

    I can't believe it ! I'm fan of x-men, i'm fan of marvel comics, i've waited for 15 years for this film. And when they finally are able to make it, and they make it FINE, YOU integrist are worrying about costumes ? YOU are worrying about actors ? And you just don't have seen it for now...

    Now, some of you have seen it ? How do you find it ? They made some changes, but it's necessary. The costume would have been really bad in 2D if they were keeped like the original comic... Cyclops said it to Wolverine "you would have prefered a yellow one ?" Ouch !

    They made some changes to people. Bobby Drake is one of the first X-men, but he is in the film a young student... And what's up with that !!! They just used him because he is an interesting one, like Kitty Pride. But they just can't have put all the characters in a 2 hour film ! They put the beloved one, those for which fans would see the film : storm, cyclop... and of course the true HERO is wolverine !!! Because he is the most beloved at all !

    This film is GREAT... And you stupid guys are just killing me with those critics !

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  • Jan 28, 2001 3:08:21 PM CST

    Quit Your Bitchin!!!!

    by toadnraysgril144

    Okay people time for you to stop BITCHIN!!!! i happen to be a BIG X-men fan and i loved the movie.And you people who are complaining about Toad need to shut it! Toad happens to be one of the original bad guys. That is the reason he is in this film!And I think that Ray Park did an awesome job as Toad. I think he really turned Toads character into a wall-crawling,superkicking, leapfrogging,togue-flinging maniac! I love Ray Park!!!! He has an amazing talent of physical and acting abilities. DON'T DISS THE TOAD!!!! Next i want to say something about the costumes.... sure they aren't the original but come on people.... some of those would have looked ridiculous! Especially Jean Grey's. And quit complaining about how some of the characters weren't in this movie. Hello?! Don't you people know that this is going to be a trilogy? They can't just introduce all of the characters at one time! They didn't do that in the comics or in the tv show now did they? Anyway.... bottom line, this movie got three stars and a B in the ratings, I know that most of you people who wrote those complaints ended up liking the movie. Oh and P.S.- I LOVE YOU RAY PARK!!!! Sincerly, Mandy aka Toad and Rays Girl....

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