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Hey folks, Harry here... Saw CAPTAIN AMERICA: FIRST AVENGER again this morning at an early show at a local theater and loved the film all over again. Personally - I think I'm the lunatic that does actually prefer 3D. There were just moments that startled me further in 3D than upon 2D experience. But then, I love 3D. I like the effect. Well - Comic Con just unleashed these on us. Surprised not to see a THOR one too. I figured we'd have to wait for our new HULK. Check em out:
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but looks ok. Seriously, whats the big problem with not having real wings? Same question for Thor not wearing his helmet.
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have no real fire in my belly to see this. i just have a feeling it's going to be among the caliber of the average marvel movies. iron man 1 was lightening in a bottle, and everything since has been a pale imitation. dark knight will own next summer.
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have no real fire in my belly to see this. i just have a feeling it's going to be among the caliber of the average marvel movies. iron man 1 was lightening in a bottle, and everything since has been a pale imitation. dark knight will own next summer.
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Jul 22, 2011 9:35:28 PM CDT
Hawkeye looks a little sad (as he about to shoot an arrow into a bad guy's skull)
by spaderific
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Love the painted posters.
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Jul 22, 2011 9:39:01 PM CDT
This dude may as well create the final theatre poster for this
by tb4000
Because frankly if there is one movie coming out that deserves to be painted and not done in a floating head type design, it is this one.
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I am officially tired of super hero movies. It's time to retire them. There is no excitement left.
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I really love the airborn jumpsuit. It takes all the best elements from the suit and makes them work. At least this isn't a rubber monstrosity. I like the different fabrics.
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I especially like the Ultimates 2 style helmet.
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This either makes or breaks him.
I'm hoping for makes, because I love BUFFY, ANGEL and most especially FIREFLY -- even DOLLHOUSE was... good. In spots. At times. Second season was great, although I concede that SCC got robbed and deserved the victory lap. I have liked-to-loved everything he's written and directed. I am someone who will see this because it is a Joss Whedon film, first, and AVENGERS second.
But. There's a lot at stake for him. I'm fairly certain Marvel, for all their careful planning, chose him because they have faith, and they are giving him a lot of creative control. I know he's a great writer, and has directed some amazing, amazing television, and I love SERENITY (but I can't trust my opinion of that film because of how much I love FIREFLY), but this is a pretty big deal, and if he doesn't deliver, it can't really be foisted off on budget or genre or studio interference. I think there's no room for the standard excuses that get trotted out whenever Joss lays an egg. It's all on him, and he has everything at his disposal to make it happen exactly as he wants.
Anyway. Posters are great. I think Hawkeye is sad because Joss is probably going to kill him. I'm pretty sure one of them is going to die, and it can't be the ones who have their own franchises to tend to. Maybe Hulk. That ship has sailed, I think. -
after that dreadful performance in Iron Man 2. Just Pathetic!
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He's not even at the 'Whale's Vagina'. Just another excuse to tell us how much he masturbated to Captain America. C'mon man, it's really not that good.
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Jul 22, 2011 10:02:52 PM CDT
BOOOOO NO MASK ON HAWKEYE AND HE'S NOT A LEFTY BOOOOOOO (nt)
by triple_j_72
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They're using the Ultimates costume, but Ultimate Hawkeye wears glasses. Looks weird without 'em.
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They're using the Ultimates costume, but Ultimate Hawkeye wears glasses. Looks weird without 'em.
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isnt he supposed to be in this crap? I havent seen him yet.
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Jul 22, 2011 10:29:02 PM CDT
Love the Ultimates take on this....the only way to do it believeably
by dogmatic
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Jul 22, 2011 10:29:53 PM CDT
And how awesome is it we see Cap's redesign suit the DAY of the Cap premier??? HUH??
by dogmatic
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Jul 22, 2011 10:30:46 PM CDT
Whatever happens...NObody has ever done what Marvel is doing with this...
by dogmatic
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just sayin'...otherwise, looks good.
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Jul 22, 2011 10:31:40 PM CDT
Thor wearing the classic cape AND the Ultimate costume is SWEET too!
by dogmatic
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Jul 22, 2011 10:32:06 PM CDT
I friggin lost it on the shot of all the Avengers standing around the table in the teaser!
by dogmatic
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Jul 22, 2011 10:34:51 PM CDT
HEY! ANYbody know who the villain is gonna be yet?? Besides Loki of course...
by dogmatic
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Jul 22, 2011 10:34:55 PM CDT
I agree on the look of Renner for the Ultimate Hawkeye, but I sure miss the mask.
by narcolepsyinc
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Iron Monger, Abomination, Whiplash, Loki and Red Skull put together to make it necessary to unite all these guys....
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Jul 22, 2011 11:02:30 PM CDT
In the Avengers trailer Iroman is rocking the Mark VI armor.
by ganymede3010
So why is this picture depicting him in his Mark V armor?
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Jul 22, 2011 11:03:10 PM CDT
it's not cut up from 1 big image...there is a different sig. on one
by future help
signature of the artist are on each print
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Jul 22, 2011 11:04:04 PM CDT
The other rumored Villain is Thanos and maybe the Skrulls..
by ganymede3010
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanos.
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Jul 22, 2011 11:09:22 PM CDT
Stars of Renner's caliber will never let glasses obstruct the view of his face on screen.
by ganymede3010
Movie stars are all about face time, unless you're a super cool cat like Hugo Weaving who doesn't give a fuck if the part commands his face must be concealed.
That's the only drawback when you cast a-list stars in these roles.
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That would be kind of cool.
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Jul 22, 2011 11:11:04 PM CDT
Helicarrier looks like a Star Destroyer is attacking Hawkeye.
by onin solstice
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to make it look more like the 616 Cap we know
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Jul 22, 2011 11:26:58 PM CDT
JUST SAW CAP AND FUCKING LOVED IT!!! BUT I WASN'T IMPRESSED WITH THE AVENGERS TRAILER......
by catchtheman
Firstly, man, Joe Johnston did a fucking solid job and crafted an extremely well made and very entertaining movie. For my money it's Thor>Cap>X-Men. Everything in Cap just worked beautifully from the Writing to the Direction to the performances. Now, was the movie perfect, no, I felt the score was a bit weak and I think they didn't give the proper amount of punch to the "death" of Bucky, the "death" of Red Skull and the kiss between Cap and Peggy. Johnston really needed better music for those moments which would have made them soar. The ending also felt a bit rushed IMHO where I wanted Cap to ask where he was and for Fury to tell him it was New York 2011 before going out with the "but I had a date" line which was a nice send off. Otherwise the movie was excellent.
But I want to give special mention to the cinematography because, HOLY SHIT this movie looked beautiful. I fucking loved the deep saturated colors. Even the greys and blues looked stunning. I found it a bit funny though how they went from color saturation to sepia tones and earthly greens and browns for anything involving the US army. They even played that up in the last scene where Cap wakes up before bursting through the wall into the cold and clean look of today.
A realy great job and Johnston should be doing Spider-man movies because I think he would have been perfect for that series. If only he had taken over from Raimi for part 3. Oh well.
Speaking of cinematography, I sat through the entire credits and was disappointed with the Avengers teaser. I hate the music video style photography that made it look really shitty. Thor's costume looks terrible and I swear that I could see dark hair under his wig. Furthermore, I'm really fucking sick and tired of Samuel L. Jackson shitting up these Marvel movies with his usual schtick. He's not playing a character, it's just him with a fucking eye patch and wearing leather. The reason why Thor, Iron Man ONE and Captain America have worked is because they're imbued with enough earnestness that you can buy what their selling. But Jackson feels like he's playing everything with a hint of irony and it doesn't jive with the tone of these movies.
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Jul 22, 2011 11:30:44 PM CDT
ganymede3010, JEREMY RENNER IS NOT A STAR!!!FACT!!! HE'S A SQUISHY POTATO FACE WHO WAS IN A SHITTY MOVIE TWO YEARS AGO.....
by catchtheman
That, for some reason, won some Oscars when it was nothing but Point Break in Iraq. But Hollywood is trying to make this jerkoff into a star which is why they keep shoving him into movies (Thor, Mission Impossible 4 etc...) despite the fact that he hasn't been proven to be a box office draw in anything he's done since The Hurt Locker.
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Jesus, let it die!
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What about (THE TOWN) AND (28 WEEKS LATER)
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Well, that certainly explains Robert Downey Jr., Christian Bale, Tobey McGuire, Chris Evans, Benny Assface Affleck, George Clooney, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, Ryan Reynolds...
You know what? It would just be easier to start listing dudes who DIDN'T wear a mask in their portrayals.
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So I'm wondering who they hired to direct the second half of the movie.....Because it's a fucking mess. As soon as Steve Rogers goes to Europe the film becomes almost unwatchable. I enjoyed everything in New York and the boot camp stuff as well but this is two different movies smashed together. There was ZERO character development for the Red Skull or Hydra (so who really gave a fuck about any of them, really?), the action scenes were short and amateur and the movie was an hour of great retro filmmaking and an hour of made-for-tv garbage. Did Joe Johnston get fired after he shot the first half of Captain America or is he completely unable to film action and suspense? What a letdown. I didn't hate it but it comes in 4th for the summer superhero films BEHIND Green Lantern. That's right, Green Lantern was more intense and had better structure. Ugh. Harry baffles me sometimes.
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That's what it looked like in the first Avengers poster- raised, external wings. And Cap in that poster looked so much better.
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someone killed his teddy bear. Not sold on Jeremy Renner, but theyve nailed every other character in the universe so far. Iffy on scarlett, but god damn she's so fine lol.
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More Thor.
Without a shirt on, exposing that eight-pack that lines up like a speed bump to mighty Asgardian paradise. i couldn't care less about his helmet or any other inane geek fixations.
Just give me a long scene without his shirt on.
Get on it, people. Make it happen.
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I went along with the whole Hydra over Nazis but in the end it just didn't work. They don't show one single battle against Nazi soldiers in Captain America (not even during the montage). Hydra is the ONLY presence on the battlefield and it's just plain stupid. Even the massive German base that takes up miles of land and reaches into the sky is 100% Hydra controlled. They reference Nazi several times and we see three German officers inspect the Red Skull's new weapon but there's not single Nazi foot soldier in World War 2 Europe apparently. But that didn't kill the movie for me. The piss poor action sequences, lack of character development for the Red Skull and Howling Commandos and rushed second half kills Captain America. The lack of Nazis just puts the last nail in the coffin. Joe Johnston has proven that he's a painfully average director.
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Jul 23, 2011 12:54:05 AM CDT
Can we have this movie without the Hulk? The Hulk is a worthless POS
by brian_de_man
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Jul 23, 2011 12:56:33 AM CDT
quake ii, YOU LIKED GREEN LANTERN SO YOUR OPINION IS IRRELEVANT!!!FACT!!!
by catchtheman
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someone killed his teddy bear. Not sold on Jeremy Renner, but theyve nailed every other character in the universe so far. Iffy on scarlett, but god damn she's so fine lol.
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Jul 23, 2011 1:01:52 AM CDT
Nice that they're digital paintings, despite the artist's un-subtle sig!
by justmyluck
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Jul 23, 2011 1:05:51 AM CDT
i wanted the wings too, just popping out a little bit, oh well it still looks nice.
by northtronic
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the test of time. Unfortunate, the influence of that line.
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oh, also there are these other two characters, you don't know them very well so we'll just put a cool airplane in the background. Excited? We thought so!
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Exactly what I have been saying.
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Jul 23, 2011 1:17:21 AM CDT
Doesn't Iron Man have a triangular chest thingy now? Oops!
by neuromantik
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Jul 23, 2011 1:20:15 AM CDT
catchtheman You LOVED Captain America so your taste is AWFUL.
by quake ii
FACT. Is this opposite day by any chance? Am I being Punk'ed? Captain America was so average it's painful. Go watch The Dark Knight again, or even Iron Man and tell me Captain America was great.
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Jul 23, 2011 1:28:53 AM CDT
Captain America was not as bad as Green Lantern, but it sure as hell felt like it was trying to be
by mericasdad
I completely bought Evans as Steve Rogers, he played the part well. props to him. this isnt his fault. but anyone who watched this film and felt like they honestly put in the effort to make this film stand on its own is just teasing their twat. Zero character development for anyone but the main character. what was the point of Red Skull besides making it clear that hes the bad guy. and Captain America killed nazis, a lot, but not in this film. the ending was rushed. Even Caps imprisonment in ice felt like it was thrown together. Im watching the newest Avengers cartoon on netflix lately, and the way they have Cap getting frozen is way more fucking intriguing. not to mention they actually have a Bucky. This Bucky could have been a Larry or a Charles for all i knew. the name doesnt automatically make him the fucking character. im giving this film a C and thats me being nice.
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Anyone that argues that the second half of the film was great and not a complete mess is in serious denial. Loved how we got to know the Howlin Commandos and really understood what drove the Red Skull and how Hydra recruited it's soldiers and what Hitler thought of Hydra and how the cube worked...Oh wait, sorry. NONE of that was addressed. And all that advanced technology was worthless on the battlefield as Hydra soldiers were cut down like kittens in every single battle. Rapid fire lasers, 2 story tanks and armored soldiers were about as effective as toddlers against our charging troops firing rifles, pistols and shotguns. But yeah, it's me. I have no taste.
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hitler woulda made this guy his bitch
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I tried to see CAPTAIN AMERICA, but it was sold out, and I ended up at GREEN LANTERN, which turned out to be a private screening (audience of one). It was hard to hate, but also hard to love. I did love Peter Sarsgaard's makeup, and the bit where Hal Jordan was trying to recite the oath while being psyched out by Parallax, but that was it. It was interesting if only to see the money blown on so much CGI which, for the most part, was only passable.
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its green lantern, the idea of one creating a live action version makes your balls wanna blow. but fuck i was let down.
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Iron Man has several suits for various purposes which the films established already, so he could be wearing any of them.
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I have the same feeling seeing these costume designs that I did when I saw the designs for Singer's first X-Men film.
While his X-Men movies turned out great, the one thing that bugged me was the generic-looking costumes. Of all the cool designs the X-Men had during the years, the best Singer could do was padded black jumpsuits?
Cap and Iron Man look fine, but they're just slight variations on the designs from the previous movies. Thor will probably be the same also.
But Wasp and Hawkeye (the two truly new, original costumes for this movie) just look lame.
Oh, well. I guess that's less important than the look of the Hulk. I hope they get that right. Nobody else has.
C'mon, Joss, I believe in you, man, but give me reason to believe this is going to own like it should. -
wasp isnt in this film, sorry to burst your bubble
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How can anyone think that would look good? or serve any purpose whatsoever? painted on wings are fine, the pay tribute to a shitty nonsense design that the fanboys want to see without looking lame.
Also, the posters do line up and fit together, as seen here:
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It's so disappointing to see Hawkeye look like that. It doesn't even make sense for the purposes of the movie. He's basically a normal guy, so why isn't he hidden behind a mask?!
And what will his back story be? Does he help Black Widow steal Stark tech? Does he somehow mysteriously save Jarvis from a computer virus to get invited into the Avengers?
And even if they did painted wings in the Cap movie, why couldn't they put in his shield wings for this movie? Does the concept of paying homage to a fallen soldier or paying homage to the symbolism of the bald eagle just freak out the suits too much for the international market?
Even if they felt classic Hawkeye or Ultimate Hawkeye's costumes just don't work, why couldn't they have shoehorned in his Ronin costume somehow? -
Jul 23, 2011 3:02:43 AM CDT
Quike ii believe me when I tell u that u are not alone. I liked GL better. Cap was mixed for me.
by the founder
I agree with your review. The first half was good and then its like some one else entirely directed the 2nd half. Their were no action moments that wowed me or made me smile. The only time I smiled was when they mentioned Vibranium ankd I was hoping Wakanda was gonna get mentioned after that. It wasn't a bad movie it was just average and safe.
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Jul 23, 2011 3:02:58 AM CDT
And why couldn't Black Widow have her Captain America belt
by detective_fingerling
from the Brubaker / Epting run? You know, the floating circle belt with the Black Widow logo on it? Not this red square sucking in for a photo op.
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Jul 23, 2011 3:05:03 AM CDT
I can't believe the critics trashed GL so badly but then give Cap a pass. I think mo critic wanted be seen as Bashing a film that screams American patriotism
by the founder
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Jul 23, 2011 3:09:00 AM CDT
PC Marvel and Disney afraid to show got DAMN Nazis and their symbols? Come the fuck on. The Nazis were a backdrop in this. WTF!
by the founder
Let's not insult the German market, give me a damn break! I don't get what was going on here.
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to something less sexy-thought-inducing. Also, mask on Hawkeye, please. Great to see painted artwork though :-D
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Jul 23, 2011 3:11:24 AM CDT
Pics look good, but Hawkeye needs his goggles or whatever the glasses he wears.
by the founder
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Why bother making this movie if you're not going to put stupid wings sticking out of the sides of Cap's cowl? Or give Hawkeye a flamboyantly colored outfit, complete with loincloth and Mardi Gras mask?
Fuck you, you asshole cynical shit pieces. I view this as a blessing. The only thing that bothers me about this movie is that The Ultimates wasn't used completely as a script and storyboard. The Ultimates 1 & 2 reads as a PERFECT Avengers film and sequel. -
Jul 23, 2011 4:05:54 AM CDT
I can see Captain America's modern looking gear sell well as biker gear.
by rowanm
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wings (Mercury/Hermes). These twits think they can design superheroes better than Kirby. Also, the first character to have the flat wings on the helmet was that douchebag U.S. Agent.
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And there are two missing. Thor and Hulk.
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Jul 23, 2011 4:49:46 AM CDT
is it that fucking hard to design a Mask/cowl for Hawkeye?!?
by stalkeye
or even easier, Goggles?
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Quote: "How can anyone think that would look good? or serve any purpose whatsoever? painted on wings are fine, the pay tribute to a shitty nonsense design that the fanboys want to see without looking lame."
The Wings represent the American Eagle.
Get it?
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These images are painfully static. Lifeless. These characters need the dynamism of a real painting, not some digitally painted stiff as a board crap. And the color palette, could we fade into the background anymore? I mean let's face it, movie posters are a form of advertisement, they have to pop. These don't pop. I'm not talking about garish color schemes or anything. A traditional artist would give these characters the dynamic flair they need. Look at Tom Jung, Drew Struzan, John Solie, or Bob Peak. Bob Peaks "Apocalypse Now" poster is one of the most dynamic posters around, and all it shows are two faces.
Ryan Meinerding is a great concept artist, look at his site, but he can't seem to get past the mannequin stage for his figures yet. Maybe he will someday, but right now let's find someone who can. Make this look good! -
....are metioned by the three visiting officers. Apparently Skull was given a wide bearth as an award for his injuries but now the Fuher wants to tighten the rains. HYDRA hadnt been sending weapons to the Wehrmacht and SS as promised. Remember, the real life SS could do whatever the hell it wanted to, with no oversight from the Wehrmacht. Yes, something is "off" in the second half. They cut away from that shootout in Skull's office much too quickly. I would have just liked Buck to introduce the commandos(along with unit affiliation) one by one when they were in the bar, it wouldnt have taken THAT long. Its also not implied before the final mission that the war isalmost over. It needed a reference to Hitler's death to register the timeline in the audiences heads. The creative camera angles on the swastikas were ammusing but didnt kill the movie for me. The poor fighting ability of the HYDRA goons didnt bother as much as hell the HYDRA tanks would burst into flame on impact by Steve's rockets. Cant eleive anyone would say GL is better though. We didnt have to hear about Steve's daddy issues, or his fear of commitment, or have Red Skull not do ANYTHING so he could be set up for a second movie.
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Granted the silly costume in the 616 universe has him all masked up in purple with a "H" on his head and 14th century boots but seriously? This is a live action movie, no idiot in his right mind would wear that 616 halloween outfit and The Ultimates version of Hawkeye is a Shield agent, they don't wear or need masks, hence Black Widow. Fanboys need to get real!
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....I loved that Howling Commandos montage but I think it could have used some newspaper headlines like "Cap and Commandos sock nazi menace Red Skull again".
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Jul 23, 2011 7:00:59 AM CDT
Why didn't hanw eye just learn to shoot a gun? Bow and Arrow's not very 21st century. Captain America looks uber gay.
by arkhaminmate001
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Jul 23, 2011 7:01:54 AM CDT
P.S. what's up with the spelling mistakes when u post?
by arkhaminmate001
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Wow.
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Fucking Sweet
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Maybe it's my age, but in my opinion, John Buscema's Avengers were great and looked fantastic, but these pictures just look like generic turd. And where's The Vision for crying out loud? For the people who say that Hawkeye doesn't need a mask, why not just get rid of all the masks then and go completely bland? The Disneyfication of Marvel would have Mr Buscema turning in his grave. PS. Joss Whedon is SO mediocre too. These filmmakers are ruining the memory of the comics.
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Jul 23, 2011 7:52:55 AM CDT
At Least Put Some Cool Sunglasses On Hawkeye. He Looks Kinda' Bland.
by graphix67
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Jul 23, 2011 7:54:44 AM CDT
Weeeell the circular arc reactor was killing Stark so he shouldn't be wearing it.
by neuromantik
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WTF?
What was that line for? Just a chance at some small cruelty?
Where's the new Hulk?
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Saw Captain America last night. The first half of the film was brilliant. The second half wasn't. The way they treated Bucky was criminal. The Howlin' Commandos were never even introduced by name. And my girlfriend who knows absolutely nothing about comics was confused by how the movie ended. I had to explain to her that Cap was frozen in the ice and in a state of suspended animation. And she's like, well why didn't they tell you that? And I said, well they showed you for a couple of seconds in the Hulk movie, and she's like, huh? And she wanted to know what the deal was with the Rubik's (Cosmic) Cube, which they never explained either.
I sort of get her point. If you walk into this film cold without having read those stories when you were a kid, you're not going to get a lot of what's going on. And in some respects, I'm glad that they're dropping a lot of inside info for comic geeks into the mix but they're sort of doing it as a shortcut to actually telling the story. And Iron Man worked because they didn't shortchange the STORY. If The Avengers is nothing but two hours of winks and explosions it's gonna be an epic fail.
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No. Just no. Stop. You lost.
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Totally wrong for the part and no need to be in there except she puts asses in seats (of dumb horny guys). Smart horny guys would rather see someone right for the part who is still hot.
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Jul 23, 2011 9:01:21 AM CDT
yeah, i probably lost, but not going down without a fight..
by simpsonian
the novelty has wore off for me. but apparently people are loving 3D again...
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lol. But it's true. Seems to be here to stay this time. Now if they can quit ruining people with conversions.
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Fucking fanboy queers
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Jul 23, 2011 9:56:33 AM CDT
Hawkeye looks like he's vrammed his junk between his legs
by buttnasty_cockstank
like that freak from Silence of the Lams.
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just sayin. cap is cool too, although i couldve waited to see the new duds.
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Jul 23, 2011 10:42:15 AM CDT
Jeremy Renner sucks and Hawkeye will ruin this movie (except for the good parts with good actors)
by goldentribe
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Jul 23, 2011 10:43:07 AM CDT
Black Widow was a terrible idea for this movie (even worse in IM2) but at least ScarJo is hot+talented and her poster is cool
by goldentribe
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So who WOULD be a great Black Widow?
If we insist that she be young and hot, and still plausible as an ass kicking superspy, that sort of narrows the field. And if she has to convincingly russian, that narrows it to almost no one.
Thoughts?
And you cant say "A young so and so" (ie "a young gena davis"). Has to be someone under 35 right now.
Also, it cant be a total unknown. Although this wouldve been their best bet. Find some russian-american badass chick with a smidgen of acting chops.
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Milla Jovovich was born to play Black Widow.
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Jul 23, 2011 10:50:38 AM CDT
Never thought Scarlett could look ugly... untill this poster, congrats on doing the impossible
by natalieportmansyummyafterbirth
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Jul 23, 2011 10:58:05 AM CDT
Milla Jovovich better learn to eat before she even thinks about playing Black Widow and filling out that suit like ScarJo!
by ceejaynightwing
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I agree: the first half of Captain America is excellent, and after the POW rescue, the movie goes off the rails into made-for-TV land.
Baffling.
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Jul 23, 2011 11:24:52 AM CDT
aren't people getting sick of this marvel shit yet? i know i am.
by haterofcrap
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Ultimate crapfest will not stand the test of time like Jack Kirby's designs.
Man, I hope they get the Hulk right. I fear they are holding him back for a reason. They got the body right in the Hulk films, but the face was always off.
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...does anyone know if Marvel ever had to pay off Brian Clemens for use of the name The Avengers, since he originally created the TV series starring Patrick Macnee, back in the early 60s.
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was Namor. and Toro.
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Jul 23, 2011 12:01:31 PM CDT
Milla is a nonstarter. Theyre not casting anorexic supermodel killing machine for a video game.
by dahveed1972
honestly cant think of anyone completely right. at least ms. johansen (sp?) has left herself plenty of room for improvement.
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The Avengers TV show was not broadcast in the US until '66.
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Jul 23, 2011 12:07:22 PM CDT
Did anyone notice the original human torch at the stark expo??
by the_one_man_gang
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Jul 23, 2011 12:12:22 PM CDT
NICE...BUT DOES THE IRON MAN ONE MEAN GWYNNETH WILL BE IN THIS ALSO?
by meadowe
Having the same characters is coo' and all, but that would be even cooler if they have some of the same actors playing the supporting characters in this as well. And by that I mean the "A-list" ones like Paltrow. On second thought I see Mickey Rourke in the background of the same said Iron Man poster so maybe they won't be throwing her in.
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Paltrow has a confirmed cameo in The Avengers.
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I think we will see a couple of nickname changes around here... ;)
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Pardon the eye-roll, but there seems to be no ostensible reason for Hawkeye and Black Widow's membership in this team. Thor is a god, Hulk is unstoppable and his strength is almost limitless, Iron Man has unbelievable military weaponry at his disposal, and Captain America is a super-powered WWII veteran. Yet, Hawkeye is just a normal man with exploding arrows, and Black Widow is merely an acrobatic woman.
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Jul 23, 2011 12:31:02 PM CDT
@graphix67 They put sunglasses on Green Arrow in Smallville
by sunwukong86
He looked horribly cheesy
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Too many ingredients in the stew. Remember how everyone shat a brick when Spiderman 3 & IM 2 stuffed to many characters from the comic book into one film? This is going to be 10x worse. Too many main characters will be forced to share the spotlight and thus be underwritten and underdeveloped. It's inevitable.
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Hawkeye's mask takes on The Lizard's lab coat...
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It will be better than the Amazing Spider-man.
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I don't know why there's so much love for Captain America. The movie was too cheesy to enter the realm of great comic book movies. I will say that Joe Johnston surprised me by making a watchable film, but he still missed the mark. The action sequences looked wrong, the HYDRA villains looked straight out of a cartoon, and there was no element of reality. Why would HYDRA use flame throwers when they have magic lazer guns capable of disintegrating people? The climax at the end was also very weak and unfulfilling. This movie had a well written script that was doomed by the shitty director that brought us Jurassic Park 3 and the Wolf Man. I have low hopes for the Avengers, but I have never seen the Buffy the Vampire TV series, Firefly, or Serenity, so I'm not really familiar with Joss Whedon's work or potential. Call me crazy, but Mark Webb's Spider-Man looks more appealing except for that shitty first-person sequence. The Dark Knigh Rises will own next summer.
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That movie was just so well made that you almost forgot you were watching a comic book film. First Class proudly sits beside Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Iron Man and X2 as an example of how to make a great superhero movie. Captain America (for me) sits beside Thor, Hulk, Batman (Burton) and Spider-Man 2 as how to get some things right but ultimately miss the mark as a whole.
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Jul 23, 2011 1:32:02 PM CDT
I've ready explained Cap's external head wings and their function
by d.vader
They could easily be radio antennae/communications devices between himself, Fury, SHIELD, and Iron Man. Just like Batman's ears.
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I used to consider myself as much of a geek as anyone, with a few personal quirks, such as a lack of reverence for costumes. You guys have raised the bar. Whining because characters don't wear masks? Who the fuck is Hawkeye to need a mask? Other than the sheer embarassment of standing between Thor and the hulk with a bow and arrow. "Just want to help out, guys. Maybe I should shoot Thanos with this arrow. Would that help?"
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Man, you guys asking for the mask on Hawkeye are soooo ghey. Really. Really really ghey. Come on. Really? This is a movie adaption. Not everything has to conform to the comic books you read growing up. Do I really have to explain this? To grown men? Jesus Christ. So embarrassed. This Hawkeye is a SHIELD agent. He's not a superhero. He probably doesn't even have a normal identity. He probably shoots people in the chest with his arrows. Good. Of course he won't because it's not an R rated movie. Black Widow, likewise is a SHIELD agent. They are highly trained field ops, who have enough hard-core training and skills to hang with the super-powered core 4. That's all. You're not going to see Hawkeye's training with the Swordsman or his circus carnival training origins and all that stuff, passing reference at best. His mask is ridiculous anyway. Thus endeth the rant. But, keep on crying about Thor's helmet, and Cap's wings, and Nick being black, and no Ant-Man and Wasp too while you're at it...
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Jul 23, 2011 2:08:00 PM CDT
Agreed. If anything theyve been too faithful to the comic book outfits
by dahveed1972
there are plenty of things to complain about. the fact that cap isnt wearing pirate boots and doesnt have wings sticking out of his head isnt one (or two ) of them.
the number one thing is that the uniforms are functional. then they can worry about the "look".
thor and iron man are exceptions, for obvious reasons.
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Either they need to bump up his power set, or explain why a guy with a bow and arrow is sharing the stage with: a transdimensional being with god like power, a billionaire genius with a one-man-army power suit, captain freaking america, and (eventually) another genius who turns into the strongest toughest thing on earth. and that explanation better make some kind of sense.
i personally dont have a problem with him having some sort of superhuman ability. maybe something similar to the super soldier formula that gave him perfect aim and reflexes. or something.
lets face it, hawkeye doesnt make a whole lot of sense IN the comic books either. i like him, but its always been a stretch. -
I agree, the wings are the trademark of Cap's silhouette, just like Batman's ears.
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Widow on the left, Iron Man on the right, they fit perfectly. Maybe they get joined based on the movies they were introduced in, so Thor (when released) should fit in with Hawkeye. Dunno about who would fit with Cap though. Still, having all these posters assemble together? Cool marketing.
I like Cap's old costume better than the one in this poster, but still rocks. Hawkeye? Meh, whatever. -
The whole self-hating liberal rant was damn funny!
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Jul 23, 2011 2:56:10 PM CDT
Watchmen did it first. Was great. Was R. Had costumes, message.
by wildcard_comics
Avengers...meh.
Though Hawkeye looks like he needs to piss. And Widow's costume is not a costume, Hot Topic Goths have more of a unique look than Generica over there. -
Jul 23, 2011 3:07:31 PM CDT
I hate to say it, but Avengers will probably not be very good. It's inevitable.
by orbots commander
There are too many characters to develop, in a large ensemble, and the movie will wind up all over the map and unfocused.
I mean, can anybody point out some of the basic dramatic elements, right out of English Lit. 101?
Who's the main character? Who's the antagonist? What's the conflict?
Their only answer is to model it after WWII adventure movies like the Dirty Dozen or Great Escape which featured a broad cast. -
Jul 23, 2011 3:24:26 PM CDT
Hawkeye is an enhanced human in the Ultimate universe. He has implants that make him the ultimate marksman with anything. gun, knives, etc...
by the founder
Hopefully they go this route with him in the Avengers.
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Jul 23, 2011 3:29:39 PM CDT
Avengers is an assemble so it's not stuffed with too many characters. It can work.
by the founder
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And that's good enough for me to understand why the Avengers want to keep her around. As for Hawkeye, there's some explaining to be done.
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Jul 23, 2011 4:01:09 PM CDT
I completely forgot that they basically turned Hawkeye into Bullseye in Ultimates...
by anthrax
Awful.
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Get your facts straight dude.
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Jul 23, 2011 4:36:14 PM CDT
And thanks founder! Ive fairly familiar with the Ultimates/U.Avengers and i totally forgot...
by dahveed1972
that Hawkeye was augmented. if they go this route, fine with me. not the characterization, mind you, just the implants.
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Widow to the Left of Iron Man. From the fringe of the cape and lightning in the background, I'd say Thor to the left of Hawkeye, and I think you can see part of the Hulk's massive green arm on the left hand side of the Cap poster.
So I'm guessing: Widow - Iron Man - Thor - Hawkeye - Hulk - Cap. However they very well may throw in a Nick Fury poster, too. -
Black Widow maybe?
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Dailyblam has almost the entire set, I'm assuming excluding the Hulk
http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/07/23/comic-con-11-new-avengers-promo-posters-show-thor-shield-agents
It's (from left to right):
Black Widow
Iron Man
(Hulk, assumed)
Captain America
Thor
Hawkeye
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What a puss.
Where's Clay Quartermain when you need him? -
Looks sweet. Nice work
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The shape in the top left? Perhaps part of Hulk?
Maybe not. -
Fearful of negative fan reaction?
Does he look like this?
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Hulk-face-Poster-01.jpg
If so, then no need to worry. -
I'm glad to see that Hawkeye's inclusion is coming under scrutiny here. He's just an archer in leather tights. Even though she offers you easily aroused horn-dogs sex appeal, I still don't understand why Black Widow is being featured alongside a god, an unstoppable green tank-monster, a super-powered WWII veteran, and the world's highest level of militarized mech-armor. It doesn't make sense.
Oh, and, as for those of you complaining about Captain America's wings? Go watch the 1970s live-action Captai America film. -
Jul 23, 2011 6:55:35 PM CDT
I wish they had gone with the Steve Rogers Agent of SHEILD/Captain Air Force suit.
by whatevillurks
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He's the villain. Leader's taken over.
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WRONG.
http://tinyurl.com/3l539hv
Take a close look at Cap'n 'Murrika's right side in this pic.
See that?... thats Hulks elbow. -
For the simple fact that all of the characters have been established pretty much guarantee's that this movie will be major hit box-offiice wise.
As for the quality of the movie, that ultimately depends on the script. Based on CA, Thor, IM, I'm convinced they're not going to screw the pooch on this one. -
Jul 23, 2011 9:18:13 PM CDT
Captain America made Iron Man 2 better, and has me excited for the Avengers. (Cap Spoilers)
by chewtoy
Now that you can see how the whole story interconnects, it has filled in some problems I had with Iron Man 2... namely that "element" that Tony's dad hints at: He clearly left Tony the clues to recreate the element from the cosmic cube.
Considering that in the post-credits of Thor we learn that the Allies have never learned how to tap the power of the cube. Apparently, even though Howard Stark recovered the cube, Zola didn't cooperate in sharing the method he devised for using it, and Stark never managed to duplicate it. However, he had Zola's weapons to study as well as the cube itself... He could map out what the missing piece of the puzzle was, but he didn't have the ability to create it himself. So he left the map to Tony to recreate with future technology.
Iron Man's armor is running on power originally derived from the cosmic cube. Which raises the possibility... did SHIELD manipulate Tony into recreating that element for them? It was all so very convenient, them showing up with old videos that held the answers to a secret element that solved all of his problems. Once we learn that this is something that SHIELD has been trying to crack for 70 years, it begins to seem a bit sinister. -
Sincerely everyone who is not a cultist geek.
Yeah, sorry to burst your Taliban-like mentality but who made you Osama to dictate us what to think? Everybody you say? So we're now a hive of like-minded zombies who go aong with the flow because of bigoted close minded losers who can't embrace outside opinion?
Yes it was great movie. Yes the graphic novel was great. If the two fucked, they would give birth to the motion comic. The film is an interpretation, like if I suggest you go fuck yourself it will be completely different than what I envision as to what you'll actually do. But I respect your choice to not do so, and please respect others points of view.
1972...go google yourself some sense, this is 2011. -
Jul 23, 2011 9:36:30 PM CDT
DarkHorizons reviews Cap without fanatism, without bias, without Fox-News bs.
by wildcard_comics
http://www.darkhorizons.com/reviews/1190/captain-america-the-first-avenger
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Jul 23, 2011 9:41:38 PM CDT
Sounds like you spend a lot of time defending that movie.
by dahveed1972
im sorry for piling on. and it wasnt awful. just meh. well except for the sex scene with hallelujah (ie the most overused song in history) playing. that was pretty awful. anyway have a good one.
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Johnson should have kept the uniforms from the church scene. SS uniforms with the HYDRA logo replacing the totenkopf and the red badge on the shoulders. Still I look forward to a sequel. Baron Zemo would provide for some nice jumping around in time.
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Jul 23, 2011 10:54:55 PM CDT
rhoadesfire71 -- Struck a nerve there, didn't I?
by menstrual_bloodfart
Wipe the jizz off your chin and get your finger out of Evans's prostate...
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Jul 23, 2011 11:28:10 PM CDT
I have decided to skip this movie. It's just another Fantastic 4'esque piece of film. By the time it comes out, the Superhero genre will have been played out.
by donkeyballstwo
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I work at a movie theater and I had to clean up after that movie eleven times tonight. Every single time, the crowd erupted into applause and even more so when they saw the Avengers trailer. Say what you will, but it was a good movie. And I'm so tired of reading all this Dark Knight comparison nonsense. Dark Knight is what it is and it's a separate entity unto itself. I can't deny how awesome DK was but let's be honest, those movies are REALLY intense. A child being held at gunpoint by a man with a burnt face, while compelling is also not something I want to watch over and over. Cap, Thor, etc. are just a lot of fun and they're good too. That's my two cents. What Marvel has going on is something pretty cool with this interlocking movie continuity thing.
Oh and could you's guys stop using the same party line terms like "painfully ______" and "it's just a mess". That's all I keep reading like every other post. -
Jul 24, 2011 1:07:08 AM CDT
Man I hope that's the Helicarrier and Quinjet that will be in the film and it's not something just on these posters.
by the founder
I hope Disney/Marvel put the budget in this to make it awesome. The possibility of the Helicarrier in a live action flick is a dreM come true.
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Jul 24, 2011 1:09:15 AM CDT
I wouldn't compare Fox's F4 with the Avengers by a long shot.
by the founder
Marvel studios is only putting out their flicks and not other genres. They gonna put decent quality into their films. My only gripe is that they play it to safe.
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But I understand why they changed his costume.
The Avengers is shaping up very nicely so far. After Iron Man 2 sucking the future of this endeavor seemed a bit shaky. Remember when the Thor costume photos were released and people were bashing it? Then the cheesy Thor clips were released? Look now, everything is in place for a kick-ass finale ala Avengers. The teaser trailer looks pretty sharp, too. Even if it rips off The Dark Knight vibe ;) -
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168009-sdcc-two-more-pieces-of-avengers-concept-art
Please add them. -
figures there was something wrong in the picutre?
since when has hawkeye been left-handed and left eyed? he's always been a rightee...correct me if i'm wrong but has this been shown in the ultimate universe? -
Whats a Hawkeye?
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also needs a L handed bow.
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Looking forward to photo promos.
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Hulk busting armor? I want to see the crazy inventor Stark coming up with some off the wall, kick ass reiteration of his armor.
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Hulk buster Iron Man would be incredible and I feel as if it's gonna happen. Or at least I hope.
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It just makes you a tool.
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To do this right, arent they gonna need much more money than say Transformers 3 or even Avatar? Am i wrong?
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Jul 24, 2011 10:56:00 AM CDT
Yikes, Cap was 140 million and you can see the CGI budget straining in the hanger scene.
by whatevillurks
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If they plan to stage big battles with the entire team, within cities or in space, that are actually believeable and compelling, isnt this going to require an unprecedented amount of effects work - practical and digital?
I guess avatar was a similar situation, but lets face it, that movie was basically an animated film. This thing has to convince us (visually anyway) that we are watching real people in real places doing jaw droppingly fantastic things. Repeatedly!
I mean, the actors compensation alone has got to run 80 mil. Although RDJ is probably the only one getting big bucks (20 mil plus a sliver of gross?). -
The Hulk
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/23681/hulk.jpg
All of them
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/32205L.jpg -
Jul 24, 2011 1:08:22 PM CDT
160 mil for the budget??? that doesn,t sound right and not a lot. Would think maybe 180 or 200 tops.
by the founder
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Jul 24, 2011 1:09:57 PM CDT
Wait a sec, is the Quinjet and helicarrier suppose to be in this too? That 160 mil is a concern if this is the case.
by the founder
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The quirky Avengers TV series starring Patrick Macnee, originally premiered in the UK in 1961, BEFORE the Marvel comic. So, I wonder if Brian Clemens ever got paid for use of the name?
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Jul 24, 2011 3:41:30 PM CDT
Someone wrote somewhere that the multi flick contracts and creative accounting saved them significant money
by dahveed1972
whatever that means.
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Just saw Cap'n America. Liked the German Expressionism recounting the origin of the red skull and the end credits sequence. And for that matter the USO montage. (As I liked the one moment of brilliance in Rocketeer...when Howard Hughes shows Bill Campbell the German cartoon of the rocket back pack take over)
But...the action and story were completely un-involving... just like with the retroactively beloved Rocketeer . And when you're watching WWII grunts fighting guys with lasers, it just seems mildly offensive. Like its dishonoring the people who actually fought in the war and lived through hell. Yeah, sure, bring up Hogans Heroes and any other light WWII movie that's lame. But I don't know. This just seemed kinda stupid and made me want to see a Woody Allen movie or something.
It's a tight rope walk to make these superhero movies work. So far the ones that work IMHO are Superman I-II, Tim Burton's Batman, Iron Man, and as much as I hate to admit it, Spiderman 2. But all the others are jarring for making me think that no one in their right mind would go to all that trouble. Captain America was really jarring. Like I didn't ever want to see him in a costume. And I kept wondering about that hilarious, anachronistic multi-cultural Howling Commandos unit with Dum Dum looking like he stepped out of a gay bar. What army were they with again? What year? Then I didn't wonder about them because they were dropped from the movie. Buncha nonsense... -
Morons.
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