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CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER Is Simply Awesome, Says The Enemy!!
Hey there, people...
I'll be the first to admit that the Marvel movies aimed at setting up their 2012 AVENGERS film haven't been perfect. Personally I really dug THE INCREDIBLE HULK and IRON MAN. I felt IRON MAN 2 and THOR were weak in comparison, which left me wary of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER, but I still held VERY high hopes that it would be the badass movie that I wanted it to be. Hell, before seeing it, this and Fincher's GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO were the only films that gave me a cinematic boner when I saw the previews. Thankfully, Joe Johnston and company executed THE FIRST AVENGER with highest precision.
Is this movie perfect? No. Is it the best Marvel film - along with just being a really good movie? I strongly believe so. Especially when seeing super hero movies like GREEN LANTERN (God forbid anyone from seeing it) and watching the new AMAZING SPIDER-MAN trailer (God forbid that, too) - it only helps one to appreciate CAPTAIN AMERICA that much more as a movie.
THE FIRST AVENGER works well because, no matter how fanciful it becomes, the story always carries a slight taste of reality. Of course it deals with WWII and Nazis and Germans with ray guns, but CA also makes us feel that society, our country, and our military needs a being like Steve Rogers - much like the first IRON MAN made us wish there were Tony Starks in the world, which I also loved. This Captain America is a superhero, but he's also a critical part of a far more real world. And, even within his superheroicness, he evokes tangible real world counterparts - like Seal Team Six, for instance. He's not...inaccessible.
Although CAPTAIN AMERICA is more or less a period piece, it doesn't force it's setting upon you. There are strong trappings of the 1940s throughout, but there's so much sci-fi-ness and modern themes, designs, and ideas in it - it really is a story that could be actually be told in any era. You can pretty much get the basic plot of this film from the trailers and TV-spots. Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) is a man with health conditions which prevent him from joining the army during WWII. Dr. Abraham Erskine (Stanley Tucci) finds Rogers and recruits him to later be transformed in "Captain America." Red Skull, along his evil army, have in their possession a strange cube with great powers - and attempt to take down America (not for Hitler, but for himself). From there, it's up to Colonel Chester Phillips (Tommy Lee Jones), Howard Stark (Dominic Cooper) and Peggy Carter (Hayley Atwell) to wrangle the Captain and ultimately save the day.
Simple enough, yes. But this is a whole journey - from start to finish - that captures and holds our attention. Never once did I find myself bored in this movie, and the main reason for this is: scenes in this movie are strategically short and they never drag on. This isn't good because I'm ADD (which I am) - it's good because it means there's very little flab here, which brings the film a sense of propulsion and urgency. Each non-action sequence scene feels like it runs between 2-4 minutes, moving things along briskly but still giving actors enough room to make their points. Which they do well...
Rarely do I find myself amused by an entire cast, but I did in this movie. Everyone is perfectly cast for the character they play. The genius Mr. Stark is a completely different personality than his son (the Tony we see in IRON MAN), but there are still some subtle and amusing similarities. The Colonel is your hardcore military man, yet also the comedic relief of the movie with his jack-ass, take-no-prisoners persona. Hayley Atwell's character is hot...very hot...and has good chemistry with Steve/Evans. Finally, Chris Evans nails both versions of his role - the sad, sickly, weak reject and the ripped, high-octane badass . He's my new favorite character in the Avengers universe, sorry Robert Downey Jr.
If you have any desire to see this movie, you won't be disappointed. Whether you're a child or grown up, there's a little something for all - humor, suspense, drama, hard action, James Bondish super tech, and even a hilariously gaudy musical montage. Go! For every one of you who don't see and love CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER this weekend, somewhere a patriotic puppy will become sad!
PS: Stay after the credits to see the first teaser for THE AVENGERS. It'll give you quiet a nerdgasm.
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But I'm sitting on some secret Reese's Pieces. Ha!
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CAN'T WAIT
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Can't wait.
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Do all those who chose to oppose his shield yield?
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Hope it does well.
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... was unnecessary. Someone else compared it to the RotJ Endor chase scene. I was thinking James Bond films, where he keeps flipping switches and more devices pop out. This felt out of place with all the human touches the story had up to that point. Other than that, thought it was great. I was surprised that a movie about a straight-shooter like Cap would have that much humor. And the jokes didn't feel out of place.
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So should I be ashamed I liked Green Lantern and had more fun with the movie than Thor? X-Men First Class was my favorite film of the summer but Green Lantern isn't the gold standard for bad superhero filmmaking. Not by a longshot. The fanboy memory is only about 3 months long so I'll cut you some slack. How about you reference Ghost Rider or Fantastic 4 or Elektra or Barb Wire or Steel or Superman IV any other superhero film that was 1000x worse than Green Lantern. Kind of getting old already guys. Oh, and Captain America better be as good as you drooling reviewers claim it to be. I'll see it after work with my son and I have a gut feeling that it will be "average" at best. Joe Johnston is the safest, most generic director I've ever seen. His films are never bad but they are 100% paint-by-numbers predictable.
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On one browser, the site comes up for a second, then goes to a blank white page. On the other (this browser), everything is in plain text (as if the css didn't load) and all the frames are gone. It's been this way since last night.
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Green Lantern mopped the floor with that piece of shit Iron Man 2. That film was so bad that I've had trouble watching Iron Man 1 (which I fucking LOVED) again. Iron Man 2 should be studied in film school as an example of EVERYTHING going wrong in a sequel. I would rather watch X-Men 3 any day of the week (another movie fanboys shit all over and I find it baffling). Oh, here's another one that the nerds can use against me....I liked Wolverine for the most part. Fun movie. I don't read comic books so I look at each film as a movie only, not basing shit on source material.
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But needed way better action scenes and needed some real threat or tension to make it work. The character stuff is fine, but the action is just meh. Too bad. I wanted this one to be great...
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I thought it was a bug, but I guess not. And while Green Lantern was a mass of missed opportunities.....it surely isn't the worst superhero film. I give that award to Iron Turd 2 and spider-crap 3.
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Liked: Everything with scrawney Steve. The conversation between Tucci and Steve about Skull and Hitler's obcession with the tutonic tradition. Everytime hugo Weaving was on screen, especially the church scene. The Howling Commandos montage. The Jim Morita-Dugan moment when they reference Japanese-American discrimination. The USO montage. The embracing of the cheesiness. Didnt: HYDRA light tanks apparently have no armor. Needed more commandos. Second half felt rushed. Never actually seeing Steve encased in Ice, just too much of a gap there. Story wasnt better than THOR but had better action set peices. Definately more "frun" than THOR though. B- from me.
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Yeeeaaaah...Now I'm a lttle worried.
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Being an analyzer by nature, I’m satisfied at looking at Rotten Tomatoes now that it has taken over 100 reviews. I don’t like to consider the percentage it shows. Basically it says that you have a 70% chance of liking this movie, but that doesn’t tell us how MUCH you’ll like it. I like get an idea of that with the average rating. In Caps case, the average rating is 6.8. This doesn’t sound like much but considering the average ratings of Thor, Iron Man 2, and The Incredible Hulk are 6.7, 6.5, and 6.1, respectively, Captain America is holding up well. The highest “Avenger” is Iron Man at 7.6.
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July 22, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST
Dont worry. The musical montage is funny and basically is telling the haters(those who feel the movie is right wing propaganda)to lighten up and have fun.
by whatevillurks
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See, you proved my point. There are so many superhero movies that are truly HORRIBLE that it amazes me how much shit Green Lantern gets. At least Lantern reached for the stars and it hit the mark several times. Some silly stuff but I never felt like it was talking down to me or trying to sell toys for 2 hours (or promote another movie entirely. This Avengers tie-in shit is getting OLD fast).
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That doesn't sound good either.
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Best movie of the summer and it's like it doesn't exist around here.
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July 22, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
Ok. Guess its all in the eye of the beholder. Personally I really enjoyed the movie.
by whatevillurks
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Saw it earlier today, and IMO, it's the BEST of the Marvel movies to date, and I say that as a BIG fan of Spidey 1&2 & Iron Man. I'm not as critical as many of the regulars here, so take my review with that in mind. Having said that, CA is a fun, action packed, superhero move with HEART & I find that to be a VERY GOOD thing. Can't wait to see it again this weekend. And yes, those who chose to oppose his shield....had to yield...or get their lights knocked out.
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July 22, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST
Mr. Underwater, a better question is this: what *isn't* wrong with this site?
by D.Vader
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It has the spirit of the Rocketeer but kicks MUCH more butt. Skinny CGI Steve was a very, very minor distraction but the scenes he is in are so good you let it go. Whatevillurks is dead on about the USO stuff, it sound looney on the page but is pulled off to perfection and allows Steve to build his confidence. This hits all the right notes. Evans is perfect, as is Weaving as the Red Skull. Just awesome. Tommy Lee Jones is STILL the man. This is the happiest surprise of the summer so far. I wanted to like it, but I really did not believe I would love it this much. If you are on the fence, go see it. Oh, I took my 10 year old, and he loved it also. He didn't pick up on all the geek nods (Stan the Man IS in there!!!) but he really liked it despite (or because of?) the high body count. At least Hydra tech makes the bodies <<POOF>> away when you shoot someone. I can't wait for Avengers and Cap 2. I really hope this film does good business because it really deserves it. In my opinion.
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And I went in all grumpy since it was Abrams and a Spielberg copy a thon. I let go of all that crap about halfway through and loved it.
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Further proving d.vader's point above about this site's mechanics.
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I thought Iron Man 1 was overrated and Iron Man 2 was underrated but I liked them both. I guess it all evens out for me then.
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Yeah, I have to agree with you. Green Lantern was actually pretty good, I thought, and I really hope it gets a sequel to bring all the set-up home. It was the weakest of this Summer's big four hero flicks, but not the train wreck some people make it out to be. It's been a great Summer at the movies for comics fans.
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July 22, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST
All the performances are great but the writing and directing was quite uninspired.
by Shadow16nh
First off; bobble-head Steve was pretty distracting for me. The effect looked believable only about half the time, otherwise very unnatural and I couldn't wait for him to take the serum for that reason alone. Everyone I saw it with agreed that the film was supremely OK, that Johnston's direction was without flair and that the action was occasionally fun. Hugo Weaving is somehow awesome despite being given nothing interesting to say, Chris Evans is earnest & endearing as Steve and really manages to make Cap seem not ridiculous when that time comes. The set up for everything in the first act is all really great and genuine but after that everything gets rushed along, and I just cared less as the film progressed. The love story becomes forced, the weakling Rogers becomes a combat expert (and inexplicably; a capable pilot of rare experimental aircraft) unbelievably fast - just takes the serum and BAM! - he *knows* how to be Captain America. They did, however come up with an ingenious way of rationalizing why he dons the heavily patriotic garb and monicker (just the fact that the film is set in WW2 is not enough to suspend disbelief). The last line of the film is a bit of a groaner and the moment he realizes when he is was wasted to get through the credits and on to The Avengers trailer.
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I don't know if too many people on this board would agree with that assessment. I thought it was quite good, but the second half was a real letdown and felt pretty sloppy.
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Colonel.
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July 22, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
How many cats went untortured while The Enemy scribbled this review?
by Mattman
Please, get this little shit to more movies. The cats will thank you.
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July 22, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
People don't forget cat abuse, The Enemy. You are the lowest of the low.
by Mattman
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That looks like utter shit. But Green Lantern, even with it's problems was a fine movie with some great elements in it. Better than fucking TF3 which had a great battle scene in Chicago but otherwise was worthless garbage.
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Not cool.
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Rogers doesn't become a combat expert overnight - he had been reading military strategy books since before Erskine tapped him on the shoulder for admission into the army, and continued to do so during basic training/evaluation. As to the physical fighting, I'm no combat expert but I can toss my kids around just fine, and that is what regular soldiers are to CAP. No challenge at all. Only the Red Skull can take his punch and give in kind. And he **could** have learned flying in the months the montages are meant to condense, but that is a good point. I think Johnston did this about as well as it could have been done. Certainly among his best work.
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July 22, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST
May a thousand screeching kitties rake your testicles with needle claws, Enemy
by THE_CHOPPAH
Cat abusers and advocators of kitty violence will be sent to the Hell Where People Are Skinned Alive By Shrieking Kittens. It's that simple, do you understand? CHOPPED (by kittens)
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They either have ten paragraph jerk off session wind ups telling us their entire history with the property in question or they spend all their time talking about it's not as bad as that movie or as terrible as another - look, just tell me if the fucking movie is any good or not, and why you think so. Done.
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July 22, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
Who the fuck is the enemy? I thought the enemy was republicans.
by Eric
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What? The Colonial? I thought this was set in WWII, not the Revolutionary War. Oh, did you mean Colonel? BTW, do you guys need an editor? (of course you do) I would be willing to help in that regard. Real cheap, too.
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Thank me later.
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I loved the first half. They knocked that out of the park. It was the actual war missions that could have used a little more work. I feel like with just a handful of short scenes added, they'd have much more focus. Just a little extra structure to them to let us in on the progress... whether it was a planning scene laying out the objectives beforehand or an in-the-trenches exchange or two to focus on the goals that needed to be accomplished. Without those, the action was a little hollow. Still, some great sequences in that second half, and an overall fun time at the theater.
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would it be a good movie for my father-in-law who is in his late 70's, experienced ww2 and hates "superhero" movies? He just lost his wife and I'm thinking something like this that might be more "indiana jones"-ish than anything might be a little escape.
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its your dumb ass liberal fuck president who is ruining this country and is the reason characters like captain america are written up. so in a way yes, obama has done something right
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I think the tone is one he would remember and appreciate, but there is some melancholy in there toward the end when Steve and his gal realize (on the radio) they won't see each other again. Not sure if that would be "too soon" as they say around here.
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I don't know your father-in-law, but I wold say yes. It harkens back to the "greatest generation" ideal and shows us what was great about them and their ideals.
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We'll see...might be "too soon" to really even go to a theater. Thanks again.
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He'd probably enjoy the first 1/3 of the movie when Steve is just a wimp with guts and heart. I don't know if he'd enjoy the rest of the film. Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie from beginning to end with lots of heart, but it is a superhero film. It shows one person taking down a whole military base, and I wouldn't be able to judge if someone who lived during WWII would find it cool or insulting. On the other hand, Cap always has help from other soldiers, and most of the battles are won through a group effort, not just Cap. I guess the best thing to do would be to ask your father-in-law what he thinks about a movie set during WWII about a super soldier who fights an enemy with advanced technology.
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July 22, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST
shadow16nh ...But Harry said Captain America is perfect! So
by Quake II
So you're telling me that Captain America has FLAWS? No way. I don't believe you. I just read a 3400 word review by Harry Knowles that said it's perfection captured on film. I guess when I see it tonight I'll find out who's lying. *This post was brought to you by the word sarcasm and PBS viewers like you*
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... Spider-Man (Spider-Man 2 is also excellent).
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Poor kitties... But seriously, this review belongs in a school newspaper (minus the boner and 'quiet' nerdgasm comments), not a site for higher-level movie analysis. Oh, right... Is The Enemy that annoying 12-year-old from Ebert Presents?
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July 22, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST
The Enemy, is that the name of the marketing arm of Marvel?
by Arkhaminmate001
If this guy laid it on any thicker he'd need a trowel. BTW puny Harry Potter will still shoo away the oily muscled C.A.
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My condolences to your wife's mom.
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this shitting on Green Lantern is out of control; after seeing it last week in 3d, I concluded that it was a solid piece of work, in the top third of comic book movies. Enemy, ADD really is a problem, because it means you won't be able to handle complex world-building very well. A good story takes time; what you're telling me is that if a story isn't firmly rooted in everyday reality you can't handle it. I grew up with Green Lantern (silver age) and the movie was the comic, period. But it is clear that DC is dead in the water for movie adaptations at this point, Marvel owns the court, so to speak.
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July 22, 2011, 2:43 p.m. CST
it was a good film, but pacing and directing were fucked
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
the director dropped the ball. this movie had no energy at all. the fight scenes were amateur. i wanted to love it! but man there are so many problems. the last 2 minutes and the teaser were the best part of the movie! it does not fit in with the marvel universe that has been set up so far- my opinion. it was far too cartoony.
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I may need a second viewing. It just did not have the "fun" element that Thor and Iron Man had
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I love them on toast
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Precisely because he usually DOES get to the meat of why he would or wouldn't recommend a movie, and rather succinctly, too. I can't even read Harry's reviews anymore. Good god.
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I wasn't looking for condolensces, but I appreciate it. You can imagine a man married over 50 years losing his wife is going to be VERY rough on him. Fortunately, he's got my wife nearby and two other daughters who will be there whenever they can. I'm trying to help the best I can...taking him to a Marvel movie might not be the "best I can"...but thought it might be "something".
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July 22, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST
Very enjoyable film,gimmie a sequel NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by j2talk
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July 22, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST
RE: the new AICN animation, has anyone made this joke yet?
by WriteForTheEdit
We wanted a Super Soldier, not a Super-Sized Soldier!!
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July 22, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
by WriteForTheEdit
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July 22, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST
And cats rule. Big cats, domesticated kitties, all of them.
by WriteForTheEdit
Fenderbender's troll thing, though, is getting very amusing. Well done, sir, or ma'am.
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Other issues aside, The Enemy is at least a literate writer.
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Your mind has been ruined by Michael Bay and Paul Greengrass shakycam. Johnston actually bothers to CHOREOGRAPH his action and keeps his camera still for more than 3 seconds. Watch some older movies, brush up on coherent action scenes.
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You're right, women never kill anyone. Well except for their children of course. You are biased stereotyping incarnate and you hurt the causes you love by representing them.
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(except when you piss them off)
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LOLZ.
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Nothing could me more believable than someone wanting all men to be sterilized. Male humans are a cancer. ROTFL.
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Distracting him is really the only thing you can do. If I were you I would still take him. The end might be a bit melancholy but he will mourn no matter what you do. If you take his mind off of her even five minutes, that's five minutes he isn't suffering. Seems worth a try to me.
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Thor was fucking stupid. There is nothing I hate more than Fish out of water cliche'd humor. The only thing that made Thor bearable was Hemsworth did a great job, and Portman wasn't the annoying person I thought she would be. And, somehow, Brannagh got Anthony Hopkins to take the materials seriously and play Odin like he was king Lear. I read all the bad reviews for Green Lantern, and I went in expecting it to suck. But, it was actually pretty good (except for a few quibbles).
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The poor guy has been mysteriously absent for a while now. I'd love to hear his review of Captain America, which he plans to watch someday on Netflix streaming.
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July 22, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST
Sweet Fucking Christ. Did your dad rape you when you were a kid, genderbender? Fuck.
by DepressedDonkey
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I have a theory that you ARE a small hung man prone to violence against women. And by women I'm referring to your mother upstairs.
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I have NEVER heard such bullshit come out of ones mouth. Such hate for the male species and comic book fans. Why the fuck are you here even? That's a serious question. You never add anything to the conversation except for rantings that make you sound like a crazy, cat loving, lonely DYKE. Again.... why are you here?
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See for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjFrBIgPEU&feature=player_detailpage#t=261s
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Sorry guys, I called it.
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It's an act, dude. Don't get sucked in by this person's obvious bullshit. Granted it's hilariously entertaining, but it's getting a little tired now. I admire the stamina of this person to keep up the routine though. It's Kaufman-esque.
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July 22, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST
Goddamn genderbender fucking off yourself already.If life sucks so much end the misery with a shot the the head.
by Eric
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Captain America made 4 millionat the midnight screenings and is at 71% on RT. You lose. But it sounds like you've been losing your whole life.
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And it was awesome. I too,went in with not Alot of expectation..and was pleasantly shocked to find it all so well made.even if you hate cap in the comics..you'll love him here. The casting was friggin perfection.to me, this is in the top 3 comic films made.I am going to see it again..making it my third time.it's that's fun,that good
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I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did. But that don't mean EVERY man is a piece of shit. The very thought of hitting my girlfriend... turns my stomach. Why does AICN need a "non-fangeek" voice? It's really kinda crazy when you think about it. That's why AICN was created...so fangeeks can talk about this shit. Frankly, I'm also tired of hearing you call everybody that frequents this site... "not normal". What the hell IS normal anyway? I have a loving family that I spent time with, shit... I even have what people call friends! And surprise! They're not all fangeeks! I have a wide variety of interests, especially in movies, not just these "stupid comic movies". I don't know. I just don't understand it.
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I must say...I agree on everything you said, man! I haven´t seen Green Lantern yet but X3? That was a fun popcorn flick for sure.
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July 22, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST
I guess you didn't read my last talkback post to you, genderbender
by blackwood
Or maybe you did, which is why you seem to always vanish from whatever talkback I address you in. I have my doubts that you're a woman, but regardless, you are a very poor feminist, and your diatribes, which frequently make light of crimes against women by using them as punchlines to rile up the fanboys, do little but perpetuate this rape culture you are so staunchly against. You do not do justice to the seriousness of what you are referencing. The voice on the 'non-fangeek' has always been and always will be present here, with or without you. You do not represent anyone but yourself -- which should be a good thing, given how damaged your opinion of women appears to be. I am a huge fan of hearing from the Other, because I am one, but instead of contributing to a smarter, broader voice here, you're just making jokes about rape and calling it activism. So rather than give up on you, I think I'll just make sure to show up wherever you go here, and point these things out, until I don't have to.
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Cap looks awesome...seeing tonight...sorry Green Lantern was a tad bit better than Ghost Rider...Sinestro was the best part...
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Wanna go see Captain America?
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You know... maybe i was expecting action more akin to the blonsky super soldier sequence in the Hulk movie. that just seemed to me how Cap would be moving and fighting. you know? And who knows, maybe we will get that in CA2, or the Avengers. I hope. In the little bits of action that we got in the movie last night we got int he movie last night, his fighting skills were pretty raw. maybe cap, in that era, was not there yet. I cant wait to see the movie again, and then make a judgement call.
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Better than Thor, but not quite Ironman or first Xmen. However it's totally different in feel from any of those and I really liked it. Also, the 3D conversion wasn't terrible.
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July 22, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST
+ will everyone please ignore "Genderblender" please?
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
just let it pass. yes it is almost too hilarious to pass up, but come on... this site has become 24/7 genderblender. you guys are suckers.
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I will admit Incredible Hulk has possibly the most exciting climax of any Marvel movie thus far. Again, well choreographed.
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So it was fake molestation that turned you into a real asshole. Your fake feminist persona here is just about as believable as Sarah Palin's phony patriotism. God, you are suck a fucking bore. Every new movie mentioned on this site is going to tank. How exciting, such scintillating analysis. Fuck you, idiot. Enjoy your infamy - the clock is ticking fast. Oh yeah, did I say, fuck you, idiot?
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Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe the only reason you don't hear about more female sociopaths, molesters, or murderers is because ignorant people such as yourself continue to propagate the very gender stereotypes you rant against? Take any publicized female molestor of boys and gauge the societal reaction: "the boy must have enjoyed it" is the best you'll get. Or how about the fact that any woman can accuse a man of abuse, whether it's true or not, and the police must take them in BY LAW, regardless of evidence? Not only that, but the allegation stays on their criminal record even if they are released. It's because of sexist, narrow-minded zealots such as yourself that society as a whole turns a blind eye to a large number of horrors and injustices in this world. Whether you like to believe it or not, men AND women are both capable of, and can both be predisposed to do horrible things. To say it mostly occurs is statistics, but to say it's ONLY men is hateful ignorance at best. You are sexist.
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Because that is all she has. Breaking others down to build herself up. It is what she does every day here. Railing (no pun intended) against geeks and geek culture on a geek site. Agreeing with the few contrarian dicks on here who hate everything all the time, and then referring to them as sweaty, pro-rape losers (aka MEN). Chastising people she doesn't know about their lack of involvement in the larger world (a stupid assumption on her part) and spending hours a day trolling on a geek website, hoping for nothing more than a reaction. genderbender - I LOVE that dude.
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You are simply an asshole poseur, lots of what you do happens here. It's boring. Merely an observation. Fuck you, idiot, and anyone who can't see through your bulllshit, can't read.
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Why does the WHOLE TALKBACK always turn to rape when genderbender shows up?
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July 22, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST
genderbender is just another in a long string of 2-bit phonies getting jollies from...
by mcgoocain
...getting reactions from what it thinks is being clever. Boring bullshit. Just another fucking idiot, like thegoblinknightlex, just a tad less obnoxious, but obnoxious just the same. Fuck you, idiot. This, or some form of it, should be how everyone responds to this asshole.
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July 22, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST
Dave - Because rapists force themselves on the unwilling. Hence genderbender is a convicted talkback RAPIST.
by vic twenty
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He writes up a nice, coherent, entertaining review of CAPTAIN AMERICA, the movie of the moment, and what's his reward? A talkback that devolves into a pseudo-intellectual pissing match over sex abuse, gender roles and the nature of fangeekery. (Apologies for stealing 'your' word, benderblender.) See what happens when you let women in?
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Rage, schmage. You are feeling pegged, for the asshole you are. Fuck you, idiot. I mean with as much real sincerity as your fake persona. Too bad everyone can't see through you.
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July 22, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST
It's not enough that our mothers and wives (I'm on my sixth now, incidentally) try to dictate every moment of our lives with niggling bullshit.
by THE_CHOPPAH
MuscleChrist forbid we actually have a joint of our own to get away for a bid. But, no, the ladies can't even let us have that. At least the nagging ones, anyway. The Adrianne Currys of the world are always welcome.
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DEFUCK's a guy gotta do to get some guy time?
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July 22, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST
genderbender, it seems so personal for you that Captain America does badly.
by vic twenty
I hope it doesn't because I found it a fun a refreshing action film. But then, I try to know what I'm talking about before criticising something. Otherwise, I'd just be trying to rile up the fanboys, and that is your job, eh?
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Do you encounter adversity, or foster it? In another talkback, you made a remark about something being like 'rape in a comic shop' -- and to me, that's exactly the kind of offhand, casual use of 'rape' that seriously damages how serious we as a culture need to recognize it. It's one thing to turn the use on it's head, it's another just snatch it and turn the barrel against the oppressors. That's what I would call bad feminism. It is entirely understandable to be angry, but in my opinion it is wrong to And re: 'non-fangeek' voice -- no one here is an absolute being. Trust me, I've been here for ten years, off and on. This isn't a unified movement of 'fangeek'ness -- it's an affinity group, where we are all of us geeks for something, not the same thing. The movement you seem to take such issue with doesn't exist, not how I see it or experience it. I love the new STAR TREK. Asi HATES the new STAR TREK. So much. Hate-hate-hates. Asi is staunchly against a lot of the geek things I love. The only thing we see eye-to-eye on is the right to express ourselves here, because despite your claims, I experience this community a dialogue -- sure, a very blue, frequently shouty, often ugly and consistently funny dialogue, but it's participatory, not dictative (and yes, I'm sure you'll enjoy THAT word). Point is, we're all non-fangeeks as much as we are also fans, and geeks. That's what makes talkbacking fun. And no, not a woman. But very, very gay.
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Ugh, I can't type straight because of this broad. Someone get me some scotch, stat!
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You say, "CA is doomed to failure one way or another." Your childish analysis of Captain America is just so much ho-hum, generic B.S., and is about the perfect summation of your phony persona. Fuck you, idiot.
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I didn't get to see CAPTAIN AMERICA yet but I'm aiming for Sunday. I think I'll take my Dad to see it when he comes visit next week, too, if it's up to snuff.
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Dogs are far better than cats. PETA members are fucking freaks. My kids' loaded diapers were far more entertaining than Green Lantern. Oh and gendershit ... that dude is a fuckin loser. Probably jerks off at all the attention from TBers on this site, good or bad.
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You know what to say to get the fanboys cursing and angry, so you do it, and they respond. What power, to control others like that, yes? You say to don't enjoy it, but you are back everyday doing the same thing with the same result. Fact is, you like what you do. No point in having power of you can't flex your muscles a bit, no? I'd pity you, but I don't pity trolls, I just feed them from time to time.
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You say, "Now the sole female voice here is being accused of TB rape through words just because she has the courage to voice her opinions? Sigh. THIS is how hopelessly skewed our backwater, male dominated world has become. " Opinions? Pffffftttttt. Fuck you, idiot.
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July 22, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST
You have some balls to proclaim yourself as 'very, very gay' on these boards, blackwood.
by THE_CHOPPAH
I admire that. CHOP on, friendo.
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Later dude ... don't let the door hit you in your wide ass on the way out.
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You say, "Anyway, you've convinced me. I'm taking a break for a little while and will return when I've cooled off." Good, fuck off. Idiot. A good douche should help, poseur.
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July 22, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST
Nice work, blackwood. You're a fukkin' troll killer par excellence.
by THE_CHOPPAH
Hopefully we've seen the last of genderblender.
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Blackwood got blender to stop using something called 'reason.' No threats. No recriminations. Just well reasoned observations. Well done there, guy.
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All hail blackwood!
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I get away with it because I'm pretty butch. But, never been with or felt desire to be with a woman. I was born, and then never felt the need to go back. And everyone, regardless of what genderbender is or isn't, we've given her a graceful out of this thing, whatever it was. So that's a win for both sides. Anyway, CAPTAIN AMERICA.
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Anywhich, Cap is a fun movie. Blackwood (and anyone else who hasn't seen it yet) you are in for a treat.
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can I have one forum on here to actually talk about the movie instead of some retard who turns it into something else? not politics, not shit talking on each other with your huge internet balls. fucking christ, we get it... you think the movie will do poorly, and youre looking for the flame war. I dont fucking give a shit. And Im looking at you genderbender. or whatever else name or names you people go by. christ, I just want one troll-less website
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Now can you get my 3 year old to quit asking me "why"?
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LET'S DO THIS.
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good job blackwood. i guess being reasonable and articulate does serve a purpose. huh.
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Don't try to switch your rant around now that I've called you on your bullshit. Your little rants didn't say MOST murderer/rapists/molesters/sociopaths are men (which is a confirmable statistic that I did not deny in my post, but small things such as reality don't seem to affect you), you said: ::Men (yes - always men) like Merrick and his son who abuse and kill cats and other nonhuman animals (or fantasize about killing them) are serial killers and rapists in the making.:: What about that statement leaves room for the 10% female murder rate (the statistical fact that is the flip side of your argument), huh? Do you think that somehow female murderers, molesters, and sociopaths don't count? According to your above statements, it's only men hurting animals and becoming murderers (and just CONVICTED murderers at that, not ALL murderers) and now it's down to 90%. which is it? You can't have both. You can't even keep track of your own bullshit and you expect us to buy into it? This is exactly why you are a danger to the very causes you crusade for. Just as much as everyone on the The Jersey Shore make New Jersey look like the fifth ring of Hell, crazy, illogical people scare away any members worth having in an organization. In other words; stick to PETA, you fit right in with the other self-richeous double-standard swinging douchebags. Leave the actual caring organizations alone, you'll just give them a bad name.
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Blackwood laid the smack down.
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I wish the Thor and Capt films trimmed some of the yawny origin fat and add some meaty meat to the stories.
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Lol you sure came to the wrong place!
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It's kind of a bittersweet summer movie season when the best thing that I can say I've seen is a Woody Allen movie (That shouldn't be taken as a slight to Mr. Allen either.) As long as this doesn't feel like a two hour long commercial for The Avengers like Thor did, I'll be happy... I guess. Marvel has lowered the bar this summer, as far as I'm concerned. And seriously, a big, fat, LOL to anyone who still really believes Genderbender is a female.
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Seems he is able to completely derail almost any talkback that he posts in. I feel sort of bad for genderblender. At this point, she should probably just start over with a new handle.
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That's what I get for getting involved in a flamewar at work. Too many distractions to churn the hyperbole out quickly enough.
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Do a search on the thegoblinknightlex. Biggest asshole I ever read in these here parts. Makes genderbender sound like a little girl.
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Except for some liberties taken with Bucky's origin, it was pretty much a perfect onscreen interpretation of Captain America. And the theater was deathly silent after the trailer for The Amazing Spider-man played. I predict it will be next year's Green Lantern-esque flop. I love Spidey, but it's killing me to see such a completely wrong approach make it to the big screen.
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Someone finally shut that bitch up.
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Im sorry that genderblender had to hijack this entire thread and steal your teenage glory.
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Thank you, well done. @ everyone else--please stop feeding the troll if she / he / whatever returns.Lack of response to pathetic provocation will allow this particular fungus just dry up and die.
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genderBLENDer's discussion about Joseph Campbell, calling him "dangerously insane" and claiming that George Lucas "worships at his altar of rape." That shit had me laughing till I cried genderbender = sad genderblender = brilliant troll
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I'm positive bender is the truly hilarious one, and the one that wrote that post about Lucas and Joseph Campbell. The guy/gal has a lot of time on his/her hands. But I personally enjoy the fool out of both bender and blender's material. Occasional real greatness there....
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Do an aicn search for 'dangerously insane'. It's bender not blender.
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rinse and repeat
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July 22, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST
Can't support this Ultimate Marvel ripoff! And shitting on...
by HollywoodHellraiser
the Spidey teaser as opposed to the Batman one is lame! I know some are creaming their pants for Evans turn as Cap but so as long as Sam Jackson is in this Marvel Universe than its no way in hell the REAL 616!
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Shogunmaster, i agree with you it was just aiight. There was no real tension in the movie. It felt some what rushed.
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Green Lantern wasn't that bad, geez.
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Gotta problem with queers, bud? Cause I am one.
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Saw Captain America this morning. I have to say it was the best superhero movie i have ever seen. Everything about it was just great. I am very excited for The Avengers.
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July 22, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST
Saw Captain America this morning. I have to say it was the best superhero movie i have ever seen. Everything about it was just great. I am very excited for The Avengers.
by Taylor Rhoades
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genderbender`s post about being a crazycat person and the sterilization of males was the post of the year. Best troll ever. It`s so funny how pissed blender gets. Thank you, bender.
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Saw it this afternoon. A very strong superhero movie… actually (although this isn't saying much, given all the crappy superhero movies) one of the better superhero movies ever made. And the chick with the massive jugs (Hayley Atwell?) was awesome. I repeat: Massive. Jugs. Awesome.
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Posts like that kind of make you feel like a better person inside, don't they?
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It was clear scenes were deleted because some stuff flies by without any explanation. The serum for example. It's not a big deal that we don't see it developed, but the fact that we never see the concept introduced to Steve Rogers is weird. When the scientist tells him he's going to be given a super-serum he clearly already knows that even though the audience hasn't been shown how he knows that. It also seems obvious that Steve waking up in the modern world was supposed to be the post-credits scene until they got the idea to do an Avengers trailer instead because it feels quite seperate from the rest of the film. Frankly I wish there was another WWII Cap film because he worked really well there. Plus it's just a bummer that he doesn't get the girl in the end. Overall I was completely wrapped up in every minute of this film and I hope it blows the doors off at the box office.
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July 22, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST
I can't believe I was so wrong. Joe Johnston actuslly did it. He gave us a fricking awesome Captain America movie.
by Yelsaeb
I really can't believe how good this turned out to be. After the Wolfman my hopes fell in the toilet. But some how he prevailed. Marvel's been so lucky. None of their Cinematic Universe movies have sucked. And the Avengers is just looking so amazing. Next year's going to be one heck of a year.
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All I can say is.... Best super hero movie EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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July 22, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST
rise_of_fett, you're right about the WAKING UP SCENE being the original after credit scene. It like the Thor after credit scene was directed by Joss Whedon.
by Amadeo Zeller
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July 22, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST
Btw, I saw it at the Arclight's 11:30AM showing, and it was (IMHO) Marvel's best effort, yet. Damn enjoyable movie.
by Amadeo Zeller
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Do you play on Tastyspleen?!?
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And I think I'm going to try and sneak out to see it tomorrow. I can't stop reading about it and I want in on this conversation.
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July 22, 2011, 10:09 p.m. CST
this place has turned into some kind of psychotic nerd soap opera
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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July 22, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST
No, this place is just Choppah ruining talkback after talkback. How do you people NOT see?
by carol flipper
That he is Genderbender, Goblinknightlex, and like 12 other names that argue and bicker AMONG EACH OTHER. Do you people really not see that? Does nobody NOT notice how all those names post at the SAME time? If Choppah or ANY of those names are around, magically so are the other ones there to argue with him and back him up. He's a fucking loser wierdo who isn't taking his PROZAC who obviously doesn't work or have a family, and spends ALL day AND night on here pretending he's a writer. Well Choppy, you can practice on here all you want, but you're a terrible writer and I really hope it isn't your main career path. But you go ahead with your "reviews" and "opinions", I'm sure soon you will break through in the business!! : ) You can set up your own website for reviews too! Oh wait, you use somebody elses : ( Is Geocities still free? You can be a big internet reviewer! : ) Notice the post count on Talkbacks where about TWELVE individual "posters" are missing. Then count the ones where it's CHOPPAH being his stupid fucking loser self. Keep not taking that PROZAC.. the only result that can come of it is GOOD. OBJECTIVELY, of course. : )
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...she asked at 8pm tonight when I wanted to go. I said, simply, "Now." She thought I was kidding. And now the bitch expects me to wait until Sunday?! The fuck?? Don't get married, kids.
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July 22, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
Damn right Cap is a Conservative! And we're so glad he is!
by Onin Solstice
Liberal superheroes just don't work. Just not their thing.
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I'm not going to lie, I've thought the same thing myself. But you know, I stopped caring. Because I like chop, and I enjoy interacting with the many personas, real or invented, that sometimes surround him. I like the characters, even if I don't like the characters. If it's all some drama one articulate dude is playing, I'm in. Why not? There is enough genuine conversation going on, and I lose nothing by treating each talkback name as the individual they are supposed to be. If the benderblenders are just a character invented by chop to argue with, then I got to play a role by being sincere. I don't mind being the sucker who believed a lie because I told the truth at it. I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.
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I just saw Captain America ...got me thinking since he is gone 70 years does Peggy Carter end up getting w/ Howard Starks and making Tony Starks "fondue"?
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its sad when people have to invent and discuss anything but the topic choppah,blender/goblinightlex -ridiculous. blackwood is at least rational and articulate- ruined talkback, almost as bad as the mouthy non stop talking teens behind me while i tried to watch captain america.
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Love your name, it's funny how certain I was. I guess some talk backs are the lighting in a bottle people talk about when they mention Iron Man 1. I hail from the troll country called Getbig.com, do people have shared accounts here as well? I thought this was a touch saner here.
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I learned very early on, if you take people on the internet, you end up looking like fool. Go read that post bender made. I keep thinking about it and laughing. The first paragraph is brilliant.
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July 23, 2011, 12:41 a.m. CST
no wonder thegoblinknightlex is a Democrat
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
the only people still moronic enough to rally behind the Democrat party are dellusional psychopaths. Have fun celebrating 4 more years of America being lowered into it's grave, asshole.
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July 23, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST
And no, I'm not a Republican or "teatard" (ooh thats sooo clever, teabagger is so played out, right?)
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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I can swim, GO GET HIM!
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July 23, 2011, 1:25 a.m. CST
RE to Viggio M and I dont think Roger Ebert actually watched CAptain America
by qjinx
First off viggio M....brother I understand your frustration at the talkbacks on here. But to answer your question, the I notice all the names you mentioned and Ive made it a point not to read any of them.. I just look specifically for people who are willing to review or speculate objectively, not the usual premature hatred spewing or schizo nonsense that seems to happen on every single TB....If your name is mentioned 30 times on every TB, you have a problem. You are not experiencing life enough. And its every day with the same handful names, 30 times on each talkback. Plus, seeing these names, every hour, every day, every TB makes me wonder if they actually see the movies they are bashing. When would they ( or maybe just he or she) have time to? You know who they are. Youve seen their names hundreds of time on here daily, just avoid them. AND B) Ebert didnt actually see or pay attention to captain america. read his review. He is very vague and could written it after reading a medium detailed synopsis. His shield has powers???
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...LOVED it.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
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July 23, 2011, 2:07 a.m. CST
RE: Joseph Campbell "dangerously insane" and George Lucas "worships at his altar of rape."
by DoctorWho?
That is a brilliant masterwork of trolling. Blender has elevated trolling to a high art form with those words. <p> I salute you sir.
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I'd still put it slightly ahead of Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3. <p> For those that are defending Green Lantern please read the following article from toplessrobot.com and then come back and defend your film... <p> http://tinyurl.com/whygreenlanternsucks
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I just got back from seeing Captain America and loved every minute of it.
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I think he nails period pieces, i.e. The Rocketeer. Admit that it is a tough thing to capture the battle-worn, emotional feel of WWII era stuff and still have a satisfying action movie. He tapped into some pretty deep territory. And most everyone who nitpicks is just finding something to fault. So-called "bobble-head" Chris Evans wasn't annoying unless you just really have focus problems. Of course it doesn't look seamlessly real. That's because it isn't. But it's believably close. Likewise, the love story was far from forced. They didn't overplay it, just introduced a simple but good-hearted guy who no one takes seriously falls for a girl with a pretty kindred soul. The action was fun, so my advice is, just let it be fun. Of course it's not ground-breaking story-telling, but why should it be? It's the story of Captain America. Classic and just genuinely great entertainment.
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July 23, 2011, 3:34 a.m. CST
Ok Beard of Chuck Norris that review points out that WB likes to waste money
by The Founder
I did enjoy GL but the flaws are their and more in my face that I have to give it to you.
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July 23, 2011, 3:36 a.m. CST
XMen and Thor are tied and then Cap and then GL, even though i had more fun in GL
by The Founder
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July 23, 2011, 3:39 a.m. CST
I'll have to see Cap again but I just think it was too safe. The first half was good but once that musical number started it got average after that.
by The Founder
I can't believe the action sequences was so average. Damn Cap is supposed to amaze. He didn't do anything that looked more then what a normal man can do.
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Think somone was trying to emphasize homoeroticism in being in the the US military?
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I would not say awesome, but it was a cool movie. It felt short, however. As the final battle approached I was like "already?" Can't wait for more Avengers info now.
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I liked Green Lantern too.
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July 23, 2011, 5:09 a.m. CST
It is like a lame attempt at rebooting the imapct that Bruce Springsteen's ass had on his "Born in the USA" album cover.
by seansarto
Hollywood needs to be rebooted.
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...WWII romances were pretty whirlwind. People knew each other for a week and may night have actually seen each other for years(if ever). Thats why that part didnt strain by belief.
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LOL With a user name like "Blackwood", I wouldn't think otherwise. (0:' but good on you sir, for shutting up that annoying troll-blender bitch. (i'm all for Woman's rights, but her/his behavior and insipid comments are akin to Batshit Loons like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman.Ergo, a disgrace to Women the world over.) But no doubt she'll be back. Just like a Monster franchise movie. (i.e. Jason Vorhees) Get ready for Round Two.
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Great actress, greater tits. I hope on behalf of transatlantic diplomacy and all red blooded males, Evans banged her...hard :) Pics and/or video evidence would be appreciated ;)
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It was just one of the first big budget superhero films to get the characterization of its superhero completely and utterly wrong. Say what you want about Marvel, they know their characters and what differentiates them and actually get them on-screen. The complete evisceration of The Green Lantern should serve as a warning to other studios that at its base you at least need to get your character right.
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July 23, 2011, 9:24 a.m. CST
This heatwave might be the best thing that could have happened for this movie.
by whatevillurks
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July 23, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST
I Don't Want A Quiet Nerdgasm, Though, I Want A Really Loud One That Sounds Like The Wave Motion Gun Blasting A Hole Through Gamilon!
by NeonFrisbee
Oh, you meant "quite" the nerdgasm. My bad.
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This movie is well over 2 hours long and Never do you feel it....It went by so fast. It was very well paced. There really is nothing to complain about here. I have seen it twice....once in 3D and once in 2D. I preferred 2D more but I have to say the 3D was done well.....not as afeected by the darkness as in other features. Especilly the sequence when cap goes to rescue Bucky....really well done. They did a really good job with the conversion. Just go see it...You and your kids will not regret it. Aside from WIN WIN...this competes with any movie that I have seen this year....its absolutly a great movie, not just a great superhero movie.....
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One more comment..... When cap is hitting the heavy bag, you can just fell that the bag is feeling the pain of losing 70 some-odd years...his past life lost in the ice.....his friends, love.....its probably best his session got interupted by Fury or we might have seen a cap meltdown.......awesome stuff, full of energy and sentiment......Thanks Marvel......Cant wait for AVENGERS! You guys set the bar really high......Good luck DC.
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July 23, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST
This is an amazing, incredible, uncanny, spectacular and truly awesome movie
by TallanDagwood
I mean every word of that. Truly amazed at how much I enjoyed this movie. How well made it is. How well acted, and directed and written. Just a superlative effort that has me re-examining my top super-hero movies of all time. Too soon to call, but this may eclipse all of them in my mind. I found it that good. I will see this movie again and perhaps a third time even. Well done Johnson, Evans et al
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July 23, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST
I enjoyed it but I couldn't help but be a little disappointed. *possible spoilers*
by Ted Knight
I enjoyed it but I couldn't help but be a little disappointed. The editing was very choppy and way too much CGI. I liked the tie in with Thor. The Nazi's were heavily influenced by Norse mythology. The S.S. "thunderbolts" are actually Norse runes that represent power. The Hydra soldiers were very well done, very intimidating. Weaving's accent was very impressive while Tucci's was a bit cartoonish. I had very high hopes for the movie so I think that's why I was let down. The story was just lacking in general. It looked like they were going in one direction with Bucky, then changed their minds. The power of the cosmic cube was pretty vague. In the comic it turns thought into reality. That's what I was expecting. It was still a cool laser though. The final battle between cap and skull was very good. But I think they should have shown what the skull can do prior to their fight. The Avengers teaser at the very end got me excited. Almost as much as that red dress scene. And who knew the red skull had such an awesome car?
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And Dr Zola, not a scratch.
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Wow. That's one batshit broad that really needs to get laid.
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July 23, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST
After seeing it two more times I'm going from B- to A+. Its gets better with each viewing.
by whatevillurks
Just a wonderful embracing of what comics where meant to be.
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Damn fine! Hope she gets to be Sharon Carter in a recurring role.<p>I need to go watch Angel Blade again.
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genderblender in this forum and "her" story and viewpoint and theories regarding males on a male domiated dork talk back is the height of weirdness. bizzzzz arrrrre. and the pleading to be able to post after calling males what she he it does just further plunges this as the weirdest talkback ever and ive been reading these things since 98. wow.
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I too thought that Green Lantern was better than many of the critics would have you believe. I think that it arrived at the wrong time really, and took a lot of shit from critics already sick of the hype with comic book adaptations (we already had Thor and X-Men First Class by the time it had arrived).
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When are you going to take a hint and stop posting, blender? Not that I want you to. You make gender`s posts worthwhile. I can`t believe you talked about being raped. Thanks for proving women are just stereotypes on the internet, with each post you make. Roflin` daily.
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Please just never ever ever post on this site again you deranged nitwit.
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July 23, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST
Why does every talkback devolve into the posters instead of the actual topic?
by shutupfanboy
Christ, its like the yahoo news feedback comment where poster say insane shit for attention. Christ, grow up. Cap was great, but I still like Thor a bit more. Avengers' trailer was awesome.
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Your complaint about Cap's skills actually works better for the story. He can't fly the plane, which explains why he doesn't try to turn it around. All he can do is push the stick forward.
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July 23, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST
this place has become an insane asylum for psychotic nerds
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
when is nurse ratchet passing out the medication?
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The movie's pacing was slow and my family and I were bored at times. It wasn't a "bad" movie, but it wasn't a "good" movie either. Ray guns in the 1940's really took me out of plausible deniability. Agent Smith was wasted here too. Alot more could have been done. I thought Thor was better. Nuff' said...
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July 24, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST
High points were very high, but there were some lows too
by gun_will_travel
THE BEST PARTS: 1: Chris Evans' acting. Really! Both as skinny Steve as Cap. 2: Great supporting roles: Hayley Atwell, TL Jones, and especially Dominic Cooper as Howard Stark. 3 and 4: Hayley Atwell's other talents. I mean her charisma and comic delivery, of course. THE WORST PARTS: 1: Pacing. Too much retro USO, dragged the movie in parts. 2: Rubber face on the Red Skull. Sorry, but it looked cartoonish - sort of like Jim Carrey's The Mask without a nose. What we needed was a Voldemort-style high-level CGI removal of the nose. 3: Not enough AMERICA. That is, he could just as easily have been Captain France, or Captain Britain, or Captain Brooklyn. Corny as it is, Captain America needs to stand for American values, even if the PC world finds this offensive. F yeah!
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Just a smarter flick, and more fun too. Plus real emotional weight. I enjoyed Evans but on the whole the movie lacked some resonance.
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July 24, 2011, 1:46 a.m. CST
I'm amazed (well not really) that so many people are giving this film a pass on having such an incredibly weak conflict.
by Kevinicus
It's hard to have a good story (and Captain A certainly does NOT) without having some kind of strong conflict, and this movie fails to have much of a conflict at all. There's no character conflict, no hard choices or internal struggles, and there's no physical conflict as Hydra and the Red Skull are pathetic. From how they're portrayed in the movie, they could be taken out by any girl scout troop in the country, not to mention a man with super powers and some other fellow soldiers.
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Surprised at those that say THOR and XMFC were more fun. This had lugers, tommy guns, lazers, lazer tanks, dames, and 1930's pulp sci fi troopers. There is some stuff that I would have done diffferently(would have liked a liberation of Paris scene an Bucky really should have been wearing gloves during the train adventure) but I will live. Red Skull has always been a one dimensional villian whose plans go down like the Hindenberg anyway. I was ready for this movie. No angst, no douches, no political subtext, just big damn heroes.
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July 24, 2011, 7:30 a.m. CST
Oh, and the movie actually had a satisfying ending fight.
by whatevillurks
It was nice to not see the villian as a big cloud, or in robotic armor, or completely CGI.
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July 24, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST
I find it ironic that Stan Lee is not in X men First Class, a movie about characters he co created, and yet he's in Cap America, which he didn't co create.
by BooBoosDaddy
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July 24, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST
Great point booboosdaddy. Wish Kirby could have been alive to see this.
by whatevillurks
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I honestly think the script was worse. The cuban missile crisis sub plot was nonsense, tons of under developed characters, and bad acting. The only thing that stood out in the film for me was Michael Fassbender.
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I planned on seeing it today but a pinched nerve in my neck has me on Vicodin.
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All you sharp-eyed geeks watched this movie, but no one noticed (or at least bothered to mention) that the scene at the fair clearly showed THE ORIGINAL HUMAN TORCH!! He was right there under glass. Did I fall asleep and dream it? Surely someone else saw him. I'd love to see the Invaders in the next Cap movie.
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All you sharp-eyed geeks watched this movie, but no one noticed (or at least bothered to mention) that the scene at the fair clearly showed THE ORIGINAL HUMAN TORCH!! He was right there under glass. Did I fall asleep and dream it? Surely someone else saw him. I'd love to see the Invaders in the next Cap movie.
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All you sharp-eyed geeks watched this movie, but no one noticed (or at least bothered to mention) that the scene at the fair clearly showed THE ORIGINAL HUMAN TORCH!! He was right there under glass. Did I fall asleep and dream it? Surely someone else saw him. I'd love to see the Invaders in the next Cap movie.
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